Bang-Boom-Boeing? Dreamliners Grounded by Multiple Airlines Over Battery Fires Etc.

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Wikipedia on the Import Export Bank of USA and its relationship with BOEING:

The majority of loan guarantees over 2007 and 2008 went to companies purchasing Boeing aircraft.[10]
In 2012, the Bank's loan guarantees became even more skewed,
with 82 percent of them going to Boeing customers.[11]
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/111027101353-dreamliner-close-story-top.jpg

Well, they were told the Dreamliner was a POS and now it's widely known.

Boeing has been taking advantage of the USA Import Export bank loans to foreign countries. Our bank gives the foreigners credit and they in turn BUY AMERICAN made SHODDY aircraft!

Well now it looks like another BANK SCANDAL, only with BOEING in the middle.

ANA and Japan have both grounded their fleets of Boeing Dreamliners.

There's been battery compartment fires and all kinds of crap with these birds.

Here are some links about Boeing failing after their own engi said STOPPPPP!

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/16/travel/dreamliner-passenger-worries/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/17/travel/dreamliner-faa/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

SYNOPSIS: 100s of american planes grounded and WE AMERICANS PAID FOR THEM by giving foreign nations BAD CREDIT for BAD PLANES through our own Import Export Bank!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Wikipedia on the Import Export Bank of USA and its relationship with BOEING:


Criticism

The Bank has come under criticism for allegedly favoring special interests ahead of that of the U.S. taxpayer. These interests include that of heavily subsidized corporations such as Boeing or Enron as well as those of well-connected foreign governments and nationals (such as a 1996 $120 million low-interest loan to the China National Nuclear Power Corporation (CNNP)).[9] The majority of loan guarantees over 2007 and 2008 went to companies purchasing Boeing aircraft.[10] In 2012, the Bank's loan guarantees became even more skewed, with 82 percent of them going to Boeing customers. [11]


The majority of loan guarantees over 2007 and 2008 went to companies purchasing Boeing aircraft.[10]
In 2012, the Bank's loan guarantees became even more skewed, with 82 percent of them going to Boeing customers.[11]

http://cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz/cache/r620-a534e9776171bd2a797b069e740bae22.jpg

wasss whorebama gonna say now eh??

http://www.airfarceone.net/0000TWAF10.gif

http://www.technologyreview.com/sites/default/files/images/787.battery.problemx519.jpg

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/01/15/ap-japan-boeing-787-4_3_r536_c534.jpg?1b79b3da202957124496e3768cfb7b67cdb10c81

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A few years back, I was quite interested in Boeing and knew they were involved in something bad. Not sure if I believe yet in psychic stuff (should though) but here:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=176526.0;wap2


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pdf_muncher:
Following the chem [money] trail


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export-Import_Bank_of_the_United_States

Criticism

The Bank has come under criticism for allegedly favoring special interests ahead of that of the U.S. taxpayer. These interests include that of heavily subsidized corporations such as Boeing or Enron as well as those of well-connected foreign governments and nationals (such as a 1996 $120 million low-interest loan to the China National Nuclear Power Corporation (CNNP).[5]

However, the current congressional mandate for the Export-Import Bank of the United States is to focus on small business support.[1]

In 2007, WFAA-TV in Dallas revealed that the Ex-Im Bank had given at least $243 million in fraudulent loans to companies doing business with Mexico, including giving loans to companies with no verifiable address and individuals who were known associates of the Sinaloa and Juarez drug trafficking cartels.[6]

In February 2009, the Ex-Im Bank settled a 7-year long legal proceeding brought by Friends of the Earth, other NGOs, and various American cities. The plaintiffs claimed that the Ex-Im Bank and the Overseas Private Investment Corporation (OPIC) provided financial assistance to oil and other fossil fuel projects without first evaluating the projects' global warming impacts. In 2005, the plaintiffs were granted legal standing to sue these federal bodies. The landmark decision is the first time that a federal court has specifically granted legal standing for a lawsuit exclusively challenging the Federal government's failure to evaluate the impacts of its actions on the Earth's climate and U.S. citizens.[7] In its settlement agreement, the Ex-Im Bank agrees to evaluate the carbon dioxide emissions as part of its determination for qualification for a project.[8]

The majority of loan guarantees over 2007 and 2008 went to companies purchasing Boeing aircraft.[9]

i was banned from there quite a bit after this boeing and sulfate aerosol thread came out.

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Blaming the batteries, (new technology) hmmmm?


The lightweight, mainly carbon-composite plane has been plagued by recent mishaps - including an emergency landing of a Japanese domestic flight on Wednesday after warning lights indicated a battery problem - raising concerns over its use of new technology, such as lithium-ion batteries.

The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) on Wednesday temporarily grounded Boeing's newest commercial airliner, saying carriers would have to demonstrate the batteries were safe before the planes could resume flying. It gave no details on when that might happen.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100385850


Didn't Obama give billions to one or more battery companies?

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GE & others have him on display, lol.
Hey you are right, here is a link,

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2012/10/a123-systems-obama-backed-battery-maker-in-bankruptcy/
Oct 16, 2012 2:18pm
A123 Systems, Obama-backed Battery Maker, in Bankruptcy



A123 Systems (AONE), the battery manufacturer for electric cars backed by the Obama administration, filed for bankruptcy today after it failed to make debt payment earlier this week.
The Waltham, Mass.-based company, which manufactured advanced lithium ion batteries for transportation, electric grid, telecom and commercial markets, has failed to show a profit in its 11-year history, and lost $83 million in the second quarter.
Though the company announced a contract with $450 million with China’s Wanxiang Group Corp. last year, the deal was eventually abandoned.
The company’s Chapter 11 filing can largely be attributed to the lack of enthusiasm for electric cars in the U.S. The industry sold just 50,000 electric cars through September.
The bankruptcy filing may lead to further criticism of Obama’s funding of alternative energy companies. In August 2009, A123 Systems received a $249 million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy.
The failure of A123 Systems follows the highly-publicized bankruptcy filing of solar power company Solyndra LLC, which was also supported by the Obama administration. Solyndra received a $535 million U.S. Energy Department loan guarantee before going bankrupt.
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CNN STORY
http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/16/news/companies/faa-boeing-787/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
Boeing's Dreamliner fleet grounded
@CNNMoney January 17, 2013: 7:28 AM ET

All 50 Boeing 787 Dreamliners have been taken out of service.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney)

Boeing's global fleet of 787 Dreamliners has been taken out of service after U.S. regulators said they were not safe to fly until a fire risk linked to the aircraft's batteries has been resolved.

With 787s already grounded by heavy users Japan Airlines and All Nippon Airways, the Federal Aviation Administration ordered all U.S.-based Dreamliners out of service.

United (UAL, Fortune 500)Airlines, which is the only U.S. carrier flying Dreamliners, said it would pull the aircraft from service, as did Air India, Chile's LAN, Qatar Airways and LOT Polish Airlines.

Ethiopian Airlines' regional manager in South Africa, Yohannes Teklu, told CNN it had also grounded its four Dreamliners. The airline was due to make a statement later Thursday.

Boeing (BA, Fortune 500) shares sank 2.9% in premarket trading Thursday, after falling 3.4% Wednesday. Shares had previously been resilient in the face of this month's negative publicity over the Dreamliner.
Related: Q&A: Dreamliner woes explained

"Before further flight, operators of U.S.-registered, Boeing 787 aircraft must demonstrate to the Federal Aviation Administration that the batteries are safe and in compliance," the FAA said Wednesday. The agency added that it had alerted authorities in other countries to the problem.
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LOL i said hundreds but there are only 50 LMAO

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remember TWA flight 800?
they never could figure out how the fuel tank exploded.

i said on PP that an external radio device could send an induced current through hardware in the fuel tanks,
for example, HAARP or another marconi array device, tesla technology, etc.

although these planes have lots of flaws, the dreamliners, the 747 was a good plane and that crash was effing strange.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/TWA/twa.php

i used to be an aircraft systems mechanic.
i worked inside those fuel tanks and saw how good they are.
you would literally have to leave a terminal unconnected or splice a wire illegally to cause anything similar to an explosion like that.
you could easily put a timed bomb inside the fuel cell too.
it's like a big suitcase.
:(

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On December 11, 2012, A123 Systems announced that it has received approval from the United States Bankruptcy Court for the District of Delaware (the "Court") for an asset purchase agreement with Wanxiang America Corporation through which Wanxiang would acquire substantially all of A123's assets for $256.6 million.
http://www.a123systems.com/about-us-asset-purchase-agreement-and-chapter-11-filing.htm

But; This is interesting: (if true)


Boeing's new 787 airliner uses two lithium-ion batteries made by the Japanese company GS Yuasa Corp, with the associated control circuits made by Thales SA. They are part of an auxiliary power unit supplied by UTC Aerospace, a unit of United Technologies Corp, that provides power while the airplane is on the ground.
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/thomson-reuters/130117/factbox-batteries-blamed-boeing-787-grounding-are-widely-used


United Technologies Corporation (UTC) (NYSE: UTX) is an American multinational conglomerate headquartered in the United Technologies Building in Hartford, Connecticut.[2] It researches, develops, and manufactures high-technology products in numerous areas, including aircraft engines, helicopters, HVAC, fuel cells, elevators and escalators, fire and security, building systems, and industrial products, among others. UTC is also a large military contractor, producing missile systems and military helicopters, most notably the UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter.[3] Louis R. Chênevert is the current CEO.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Technologies_Corporation

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HMM you remember that sony laptop battery recall?

this has happened before, thank you Silentfeathers! for the info i wouldn't have thought of actually

:( Japan and its rare earth ventures, be more careful japan!!!

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It really makes me wonder how many missile systems may be faulty? not to mention all the other high tech stuff that uses these batteries, such as military security systems and computer controlled weapons/aircraft etc......

The dreamliner is just the tip of the iceberg :)

But Boeing is the keyword here.....

this is ironic....or is it?


President Obama visited Boeing's factory in Everett, Washington on February 17, 2012 to deliver a speech on his economic policy.

an interesting read:

Boeing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing


Boeing is among the largest global aircraft manufacturers, and the third largest aerospace and defense contractor in the world based on defense-related revenue.[3] The company is the largest exporter by value in the US,[4] and its stock is a component of the Dow Jones Industrial Average.

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Thank you SF,

this is gonna have bbbbbbbbaaaddddddd repercussions on the US economy....
hope we don't plummet into yet another recession giving those who spoil us an excuse to grab yet more power!!!

Dreamliner, DREAM ON!!! :(

And yes, the tip of the iceberg.
Hard to believe that maintenance negligence and weapons testing lead to the deaths of so many.

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Check this out....this is huge if this merger was to take place, Making BAE Systems possibly if not the largest defense contractor in the world.

BAE Systems
The possibility of a merger between BAE and major North American defence contractors has long been reported, includingBoeing, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, and Raytheon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems

also on Boeing's wiki page is this:


On August 11, 2006, Boeing announced an agreement to form a joint-venture with the large Russian titanium producer, VSMPO-Avisma for the machining of titanium forgings. The forgings will be used on 787 program.[48] On December 27, 2007 Boeing and VSMPO-Avisma created a joint venture Ural Boeing Manufacturing and signed a contract on titanium products deliveries until 2015, with Boeing planning to invest $27 billion in Russia over the next 30 years.[49]

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BAE took over HAARP from GE and is partly responsible for 9-11 IMO and in bed with M16 and BP

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Ironically A123 batteries have a phosphate cathode, which is much safer than the oxide type cathodes which I suspect were used in the battery packs of the boeing planes.

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How awful that they'd purposely use the cheaper variety when it's known to be unsafe.

Safety should be paramount in the flight industry, and cheapness second to that.

I wish we could return to using zeppelins.

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Check this out....this is huge if this merger was to take place, Making BAE Systems possibly if not the largest defense contractor in the world.

BAE Systems
The possibility of a merger between BAE and major North American defence contractors has long been reported, includingBoeing, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, and Raytheon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems

also on Boeing's wiki page is this:


On August 11, 2006, Boeing announced an agreement to form a joint-venture with the large Russian titanium producer, VSMPO-Avisma for the machining of titanium forgings. The forgings will be used on 787 program.[48] On December 27, 2007 Boeing and VSMPO-Avisma created a joint venture Ural Boeing Manufacturing and signed a contract on titanium products deliveries until 2015, with Boeing planning to invest $27 billion in Russia over the next 30 years.[49]

the Kuril Islands Conflict (right before 3/11/11)/Kermadec (i think) come to mind when I read your post more closely!!!

You know they are fighting over rare earths and metal caches there.... and oil... :( sigh

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Beyond the tip of the iceberg....seems Boeing has been a victim of outsourcing problems (or has been sabotaged)

Why 787 Dreamliner Battery Woes Are the Tip of Boeing's Iceberg
http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2013/01/21/why-787-dreamliner-battery-woes-are-the-tip-of-boeings-iceberg/

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Beyond the tip of the iceberg....seems Boeing has been a victim of outsourcing problems (or has been sabotaged)

Why 787 Dreamliner Battery Woes Are the Tip of Boeing's Iceberg
http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2013/01/21/why-787-dreamliner-battery-woes-are-the-tip-of-boeings-iceberg/

Sounds similar to Microsoft's situation doesn't it?
Bad product and rampant outsourcing...

Thanks for that link, will follow!!


Hopefully, Boeing will bear in mind one of the lessons of the Titanic — don’t push a new technology beyond its limits.