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jackovesk
17th January 2013, 15:27
The Third Force

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Jan 3, 2013

IS THERE A MYSTERIOUS AND SUPERIOR THIRD FORCE THAT IS COVERTLY MANIPULATING THE WORLD THROUGH A SMALL NUMBER OF SUPER-ELITES WHO RUN THE WORLD’S MOST POWERFUL NATIONS ?

Is this THIRD FORCE non-human or alien and are the major world powers being separately controlled by this entity in different dress inside each nation state’s highest echelons of government? Is there an overall coordinated purpose of this THIRD FORCE to create a NWO Globalist One-World Tyranny?

WHAT ARE ITS GOALS AND METHODS AND HOW LONG HAS THIS ENTITY BEEN INFLUENCING MANKIND ?

Is their apparent end-game the drastic reduction of the world’s population through mass eugenics & world war after which they plan to establish a one world global empire with a single dictator, a new “Caesar of the Ages”?

DO THEY PLAN TO DESTROY THE HUMAN RACE AS IT IS NOW AND MORPH IT INTO A NEW TRANSHUMAN GENETIC ORGANISM TO FUNCTION AS THEIR SLAVES ?

Is this THIRD FORCE a completely evil non-human parasite with superior intelligence that promotes the philosophy “the end justifies the means” in order to more quickly attain its long term goals?

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HAS THIS ENTITY BEEN STOPPED COLD IN THE PAST AND HOW WAS THAT DONE ?
HOW CAN IT BE STOPPED COLD IN ITS TRACKS NOW ?

This article is an attempt to shed some light on this little discussed quite shadowy subject and perhaps provide a framework for some plausible answers from what is now known or strongly suspected. Several sources will be listed where folks can pursue any further interests they have in these matters. Every day there appears to be more disclosures, leaks and new findings about who really runs the world, the Hidden Hand or the Powers That Be (PTB). And what is being revealed is not a pretty picture but it appears that those who uncover this entity are staring “pure evil” in the face, which makes it incredulous to most.

“For now we see through a glass darkly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know even as I am known.”

EACH MAJOR SOCIETAL FORCE IS MET WITH A COUNTER-FORCE

In every battle whether overt war or covert power struggles, there is a force (FIRST FORCE) at some point met by a counter-force (SECOND FORCE). Coalitions may be formed as additional counter-forces and these are best described as a THIRD FORCE. However in most cases a THIRD FORCE can exert much more power and exist without being specifically targeted when carefully concealed or covert. Any THIRD FORCE is typically much more effective when covert. But often when fully exposed, it loses much of its staying power. When it is covert it remains hidden.

In recent years numerous researchers and journalists have been connecting the dots as never before and have started arriving at the conclusion that there is a secret, covert major and very powerful and “bad to the bone” THIRD FORCE which appears to have captured most of the major nation states of the world and appears to have somehow gained control over its leaders to act as parasites upon their citizens while cooperating with each other to produce a NWO Globalist Tyranny. The construction of this NWO tyranny is based on systematic deployment of high tech mass mindkontrol technologies (Mindwar through advanced Psychotronics), planned engineered disasters and economic breakdown to create more control, deployment of Eugenics, toxic vaccinations, GMO toxic foods, and mass death through provoked inhuman wars. And it appears that this is all being done to destroy the human race and create a new transhuman race to take its place using new gene splicing technologies, development of the triple helix and animal-human chimera projects.

The THIRD FORCE appears to be obsessed with gaining power through any means, and its operative ideology is “ends justifies the means” with absolutely no value placed on human life, a complete lack of love or any humanity at all. Those who are its “useful idiots”, the cutouts this THIRD FORCE has placed in power to run each of the top nation states show no value to human life, have been caught in massive illegal drug trafficking, bribery of officials, sexual slavery, child trafficking and pedophile ops to compromise officials, assassinations, politicians, judges, leaders of the military, alphabets and LE as well as prominent businessmen.



PURELY EVIL, PURELY SOCIOPATHIC

The term “pure sociopath” has been applied to describe these folks based on their apparent lack of any visible humanity, and some clergy have hypothesized that these folks either have no souls or are demon or Jinn infested. One thing is for sure, it is very difficult for the average person to understand the depth of the evil of the minions and cutouts surrounding THIS THIRD FORCE. And now we in America have a government which says it is okay to assassinate anyone they say deserves it and does so, murders folks without any legal representation by remotely fired missiles from drones, says it is okay to kidnaps folks off the street, bag, tag them and place them in offshore secret black prisons with no trial and then even execute them.

We have a USG which basically does anything it wants all justified by its current “WAR ON TERROR” which it declared in response to the 911 attacks which it did itself with help from its foreign “allies”, all instituted as a secret false flag attack. And this THIRD FORCE has captured the major mass media through its cutouts, American Intel and the Military, creating a near complete lockdown on the national news and reducing this media to little more than USG propaganda dispensers.

Every time the THIRD FORCE wants more power and control it plans and institutes an engineered disaster either weather, financial, societal, legislative, or stages additional acts of individual or mass terror. But most citizens do not fathom this thanks to their continual drinking of the mass media’s koolaide which is nothing less than sophisticated mindkontrol and mindwar against these “news consumers”.

This THIRD FORCE appears to be exceedingly evil, obsessed with generating mass death and suffering of the masses which makes it hard for most folks to believe it exists even when evidence is shown to them or they are informed about it. The blatant parasitical evil of the entity is so profound that it just does not fit into folks heads easily, seeming far too incredulous to be believed.

Until recently for the most part this THIRD FORCE has remained hidden and has continued to appear quite mysterious to those researchers who studied its strange and evil machinations produced all around the world.

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Is the Roman Statue on the 'above' a depiction of a representative of the THIRD FORCE advising a senior Illuminati Elder? (Photo, Copyright Spookwatcher, used by permission)

A POWER SO ORGANIZED, SO SUBTLE, SO WATCHFUL, SO INTERLOCKED, SO COMPLETE, SO PERVASIVE

Many historians have stated that there is a strong hidden hand in the background controlling all world events. They sense this THIRD FORCE but declined to identify it or its most visible minions. As Woodrow Wilson’s famous quote goes:


“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”

Some researchers have hypothesized that he was speaking about the International Banksters, the World Moneychangers working out of the City of London (Financial District). Others have hypothesized that these Banksters are merely the cutouts or servants of a much more sinister control group they call the Olympiads, the Illuminati or use various occult names for it. And it has been suggested numerous times that this force, a mighty force for Evil in the world, has attained power over nation states by setting up puppets to control them to conform to their overall world goals. Up until recently little was researched, written or known about such international power control groups (the powers that be PTB) and what the proof is of their existence, or in what form they actually exist. With the advent of the world-wide Web (Internet) this has all changed and there has been an explosion of research and disclosures about this THIRD FORCE.

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Is the Roman statue 'above' a depiction of a ”beneficiary” of the THIRD FORCE and does his seat display the symbol of the ”Death Cult of the Owl” which represents the THIRD FORCE, later found at Bohemian Grove with their 40 foot Moloch, on their literature and on the US dollar Bill? (Photo, Copyright Spookwatcher, used by Permission).

PREVIOUSLY HIDDEN, NOW BEING REVEALED AS NEVER BEFORE

Thanks to the work of numerous excellent very well informed researchers, historians, journalists and intel experts like Jim Marrs, Richard Dolan, Peter Lavenda, Gordon Duff, Greg Hallett, Mike Sparks, Joseph P. Farrel and Joel Skousen, things which were previously hidden are now being revealed as never before and we are now able to start to see what has previously been an invisible secret, the apparent HIDDEN HAND of recent contemporary history. Their findings and informed speculations along with numerous well defined leaks from informed sources described as “highly possible” can now be put together in a descriptive matrix to suggest a plausible construct of this THIRD FORCE in the world today. It is now possible to make reasonable hypotheses about this THIRD FORCE which has been mysteriously and covertly influencing human destiny in a blatantly evil and foreboding fashion and has apparently compartment itself under different dress among the few most powerful nations in order to pit them against each other as a continuing strategy of of tension to divide and conquer. It is this strategy of producing continued states of conflict to produce increasing and massive chaos which allows major changes to be made by the PTB which would otherwise not be possible.

In order to understand what this THIRD FORCE is and how it works, as well as how it can be effectively stopped cold, it is essential to examine the British Empire, how it evolved and how it was stopped cold in its pursuit of tyranny in the American Colonies during the Revolutionary War. It has been trying ever since to re-assert itself and resume its strategy to fully impose a complete tyranny in America through its control over our monetary production and distribution system and only now is it starting to makes it last, big move before the THIRD FORCE is finished with it and discharges it to junk pile of history. The British Empire is the contemporary poster child for the THIRD FORCE, but it’s hidden hand probably has also controlled Bolshevik Russia, Stalinist Russia, Nazi Germany, Maoist China, ancient Rome, Greece, and Egypt under the Pharaohs and many other ancient nations. It appears that once this parasite has extracted all the lifeblood of a nation state and destroyed it, it then moves on and selects a new host in its ever widening quest to build a NWO Globalist one-world tyranny, which some have called the “plan of the ages” or “the plan of the ancients”.
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THE DECLINE OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE

The British Empire began to decline in the late 19th century after a period of worldwide predominance and attainment of naval superiority. In order to become the predominant force on the seas it had used covert means to effectively stifle and handicap its competitors along trade routes by using privateers or pirates who were covertly but fully sanctioned by the Crown.

This served as a small but covert third force for the crown to continue to build naval superiority on the seas and the pirates reward was to be able to keep their booty. This actually is now a well documented form of terrorism by the crown and suggests folks need to ask the question whether or not current acts of terror all over the world are also covertly sourced by the Crown through well disguised cutouts, since this seems to be their specialty. And if a nation state which has few natural resources and little intrinsic wealth is able to create and use proxies to fight their strategic battles covertly and deniably, then so much the better. In this way the wealth and resources of other nations can be covertly captured while completely disguised as someone else’s internal or external wars. Very crafty indeed.

And as the British Empire began its decline, those in charge realized that in order to maintain the level of control in the world they had attained but were now losing, they would have to develop a means to attain and hold power covertly without making themselves a target, while providing the belief to folks that they were in fact finally free of the Crown.

THE CROWN’S COVERT STRATEGY TO MAINTAIN HEGEMONY–FINE TUNING PERFIDY TO DIVIDE & CONQUER

Those in charge of the Crown had developed sophisticated methods of divide and conquer, first conquering lands, then eventually giving them independence while maintaining covert financial control through capture of the money production and distribution system i.e. central banking. This was done in numerous colonies which included America. The result was that numerous colonies rebelled as covertly prescribed and fought to obtain their independence but actually never really gained it financially.

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Now where did the folks running the Crown get all this sophisticated technology which their advanced perfidy was based on? Some at the highest level claimed they obtained it through membership in secret occult organizations which tapped into the “teeming power of Lucifer”. It has been reported by those who have left these organizations that they appear to be connected into a hierarchy based on esoteric rituals which release this Luciferian power but it has been claimed it must be fed with blood sacrifice, thus the need for sick Bohemian Grove type rituals and numerous wars to produce mass death. If these assertions turn out to be true it would explain a lot. Allegedly those who participate in these esoteric occult organizations give up their humanity in exchange for being able to access this “teeming power” some have described as the THIRD FORCE.

The crown was able to acquire numerous colonies, but in each after a while the folks rebelled and sought and gained independence. It is likely that many of these rebellions were even run by the Crown and were raised up to create the rebellion so that the financial controllers in the City of London could obtain what they really wanted (complete control over the production and distribution of a nations money) while allowing the new nation state to believe they had obtained freedom when actually they were even deeper in financial bondage albeit covertly. And actually if one obtains and hold control over a nation’s monetary production and control system it is able to rule covertly without becoming a target of those it financially oppresses.

Note: This article is extremely lengthy, but well worth the read, if you have time...(Link to rest of the article Below)...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/03/the-third-force/

Cidersomerset
17th January 2013, 15:46
IS THERE A MYSTERIOUS AND SUPERIOR THIRD FORCE THAT IS COVERTLY MANIPULATING THE WORLD THROUGH A SMALL NUMBER OF SUPER-ELITES WHO RUN THE WORLD’S MOST POWERFUL NATIONS ?


YES !! I only need to reed the first sentance...LOL.....



The THIRD FORCE appears to be obsessed with gaining power through any means, and its operative ideology is “ends justifies the means” with absolutely no value placed on human life, a complete lack of love or any humanity at all. Those who are its “useful idiots”, the cutouts this THIRD FORCE has placed in power to run each of the top nation states show no value to human life, have been caught in massive illegal drug trafficking, bribery of officials, sexual slavery, child trafficking and pedophile ops to compromise officials, assassinations, politicians, judges, leaders of the military, alphabets and LE as well as prominent businessmen.

The Two conclusions I'm inclined to at the moment unless new evidence rears
its head is either humanity is basically evil especially when they get into
power positions, corrupted by power and greed with a massive blood lust!

Which i do not believe, I do not wish to harm or kill anyone and I suspect
that goes for the vast majority of humans.Obviously there are criminal and
violent elements,but they are still a minority probably influenced from
outside sources still to be revealed....

Or we are being influenced/vampired off by an interdimentional entity
tapping in and living off human essence, the adrenalin caused
by fear death and especially prepuberty children. Sacrificing Virgins in
old societies......David Icke & others go into far more detail with this..

Its well documented many elites seem to be into satanism and supernatural
worship of God/devils & demons.Which to me translate into interdimentional
entities or the Archons ( greys ) who may be their servants/drones this side
of the veil so to speak.Eitherway something sinister has been going on
behind the closed doors of some of the elites for a very Very long time imo !!

Lifebringer
17th January 2013, 16:00
It is Supernatural, and WE must be super at being natural. Serious though, for every evil entity, there's a Guardian ArchAngel ready for battle. Gabriel seeded Mary, as a Son of God and told her to call him Immanuel. He will do what is necessary to stop these entity villains and they did it before, but those in the cult have dug up the dead giants and conjoured spirits back into this relm.

WE give God strength with our faith in God, and they work for God and He gives them the strength.

From what I've heard, they're pretty good at defense, henceforth, the word ARCH Angel.

Lifebringer
17th January 2013, 16:16
I think since they are phychic, it's very easy to find their weaknesses and exploit, blackmail or threaten them.

Once their puppet's secret is exposed, the less they have to control, because the rep has to make his mind up to leave the political scene. Oh, the other day Rockerfella said he wouldn't seek re-election, and said he'll never leave West VA and he wanted to spend time with his family.

I find that line a bit questionable in light of the financial troubles and warnings to him about being dust, and ready to blow away by the BRIC nations. I think there will be plenty of bigwigs marching the Penguin March this year and Rocky is one of em. Then to say he'll never leave WVA, could mean the Federal prison for all the time he'll serve, could yield him time with family and permanant residence.

They twist so much, its hard to decipher, and I really don't like delving into that low a bag to find out, however after 100 or so years of their shinannigans and crookery, they can't be in charge or the loaning, and banking of oru children because they have proved to be LIARS AND GREEDY CHEATS in the game of monopoly, the elites play.

andrewgreen
17th January 2013, 17:10
I don't believe you can believe in one with the other. Their is good and evil influencing the world, its necessary to have polarity in a dimension of duality in order for us to make choice.

donk
17th January 2013, 17:59
The conclusion that I am coming to is that a huge part of the problem is the emotional attachment to this idea of "evil" and worse "PURE EVIL" to this third force, that in itself creates fear, which almost every piece of evidence is pointing to the fact that this is exactly what fuels/strengthens/sustains it in the first place.

Is the upper managment schlub of a industrial chicken plant PURE EVIL?? Injecting growth hormones, keeping them in cages they can't move in, basically torturing/using/abusing these poor conscious beings their entire miserable lives. How? They don't see them as conscious entities worthy of a thought...they are simply "units" to them. It is definitely evil from certain points of view, but "pure evil"? Is that dude (consciously) doing this for the sake of the energy they obtain from the suffering of his "victims"?

How about the pet owner, like myself, who had my dog's balls cut off, and keep him in the basement when i am not home, who only gets out of the house when I let him...is that "evilness"? Seen from a certain perspective, sure. But if I could (if it were acceptable to those around me), I'd have let him keep his stone, bang whatever b!tch he wanted, and come and go as he pleased. Are the people that have a problem with that idea "evil"?

I am not defending the "third force" (which i think is horrible label, it's like polarity + 1...black, white, one shade of gray) by any stretch of the imagination, I want to bring this to light as much as anyone, and love when another perspective on it is brought out. But I think the sophistication of our thinking on it, the level of emotional maturity we attack the problem from, needs to increase.

The "enemy" doesn't think they are "evil", bt definition, something a conscious entity decides to do is "good" for them, right? There needs to be discernment between those that are so programmed or directly enslaved (those that are hungry for power, money, experiences etc), who may seem to be the most evil imaginable but are actually just at the extreme end of the selfish scale...and the true evil (from the human/light being point of view), such as a pedophile or one who gets off on torture.

There is a difference between pure evil (to us) that gets it's energy DIRECTLY by taking ours, and those that seem to but are really just selfish and/or deceived (I used in a similar thread the analogy of the Emporer vs Darth Vader...and as silly/simple as that is, the idea that resonates closest to a "solution" to me is to make the masses--starting with our peers--aware of the difference, the importance of helping the Vader's "see the light" and identifying those "emporers" that need to be destroyed, those "few bad apples" that bring nothing but suffering to our existence).

I dunno...just my thoughts...

Craig
18th January 2013, 00:06
I am just finishing up the ringing cedars books from Russia and in the latter books it has been mentioned about 6 priests who controlled the world for eons, through the ability to have faster speed of thought over the rest they managed to setup what we are experiencing now. By getting us caught in a daily rut we lose the ability to ponder our existence and will fall victim to these manipulations. At the time of reading it was making sense but I was reading so fast i need to go back and study more. But i would think this 3rd force was ours in the way past when we did have the purity of thought, we have lost that now but others appear to have it and are using it against us.

these too are my current thoughts, i need to reread the books and hope they sink in better second time around.

mosquito
18th January 2013, 03:09
DO THEY PLAN TO DESTROY THE HUMAN RACE AS IT IS NOW AND MORPH IT INTO A NEW TRANSHUMAN GENETIC ORGANISM TO FUNCTION AS THEIR SLAVES ?

It seems to me that their plan is well over 70% complete

Hervé
18th January 2013, 03:42
[...]
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SPYWATCHER-2-F-1-10-13.jpg

Is the Roman statue 'above' a depiction of a ”beneficiary” of the THIRD FORCE and does his seat display the symbol of the ”Death Cult of the Owl” which represents the THIRD FORCE, later found at Bohemian Grove with their 40 foot Moloch, on their literature and on the US dollar Bill? (Photo, Copyright Spookwatcher, used by Permission).

[...]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/03/the-third-force/

According to Simon Parkes, "Greys" project a mental image picture of an owl into human minds so as not to "scare' humans... you, know... the guys who can spot you in the middle of the darkest night to abduct you... an enforced an OBE (little death) on you to get you to their craft...

Tane Mahuta
18th January 2013, 06:43
Awesome post Jack, it is only when this force becomes visible to the masses,

can humanity make a stand!!!

TM

Finefeather
18th January 2013, 07:57
The Third Force is the one deep inside us, trying to make an appearance in our lives...but...it is being brushed aside...often unnoticed...engulfed by candy...replaced by sensational rhetoric...

It is the only force which is truly in love with us, no matter how much we ignore it.
It is the only force which is ready to stand by us when all else has failed.
It is the only force which asks us for nothing yet gives us everything.
It is the only force which gives us all the time we need to do as we please.
It is the only force which lets us choose what we like and discard even it.
It is the only force which is happy to wait for us while we are elsewhere occupied.

It is the force of our own inner longing for our happiness and our growth.
It is the force which never fights, even our darkest intentions.
It is the force which allows us to breath and gaze at the wonders of life.
It is the force which quietly waits and watches as we play.
It is the force which laughs when we laugh and cries when we cry.
It is the force of unconditional love.
It is the real Self...the one who knows...the one who cares...the one who waits...the one who loves.

When will you give your Self a chance?

Love to All
Ray

jackovesk
18th January 2013, 15:27
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/themes/Transcript/images/authors/jim.jpg

The Author of the OP article Preston James Ph.D on the 'Jeff Rense Show'


Biography

Social Psychologist with doctorate from Major Midwest Big Ten University. Retired from private practice in Psychology and Marriage/Family Therapy after serving the community for over 35 years during which time there were contacts with those associated with intel and law enforcement.

Great Interview on the 'Third Force'...:thumb:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSWUzpOXZcETEqZHAgbWfINPvzzqEOSb-9G9hJQSCChNXBMnBSmBF6PJws

Some 'Real & New' inside 'Whistleblower' intel...:yes4:

:music: http://k006.kiwi6.com/download/ivs3an2aww

Enjoy...

DNA
18th January 2013, 15:38
Charles Forte in his 1919 “book of the damned” agreed very much with what Jack is saying in this thread.

In the below excerpt Charles Forte says that not only is the earth owned, but the only reason that academics, politicians and institutions could be so complicit in the cover up, is if indeed there are agents of the aliens, provocateurs so to speak, on earth doing the alien’s bidding.




I suspect that, after all, we're useful—that among
contesting claimants, adjustment has occurred, or that
something now has a legal right to us, by force, or by
having paid out analogues of beads for us to former,
more primitive, owners of us—that all of this has been
known, perhaps for ages, to certain ones upon this
earth, a cult or order, members of which function like
bellwethers to the rest of us, or as superior slaves or
overseers, directing us in accordance with instructions
received—from Somewhere else—in our mysterious
usefulness.



This is most evidenced when I look back on the Smithsonian and how it traveled to and fro covering up well documented finds of giant skeletons and links to prior high culture traces, like the Grand Canyon cave of artifacts found in 1909.

Time and time again, the Smithsonian swooped in, absorbed the artifacts covered up the dig site and then claimed to have no knowledge of the dig site and or to have lost all of the artifacts.

DNA
18th January 2013, 15:48
The Third Force is the one deep inside us, trying to make an appearance in our lives...but...it is being brushed aside...often unnoticed...engulfed by candy...replaced by sensational rhetoric...

It is the only force which is truly in love with us, no matter how much we ignore it.
It is the only force which is ready to stand by us when all else has failed.
It is the only force which asks us for nothing yet gives us everything.
It is the only force which gives us all the time we need to do as we please.
It is the only force which lets us choose what we like and discard even it.
It is the only force which is happy to wait for us while we are elsewhere occupied.

It is the force of our own inner longing for our happiness and our growth.
It is the force which never fights, even our darkest intentions.
It is the force which allows us to breath and gaze at the wonders of life.
It is the force which quietly waits and watches as we play.
It is the force which laughs when we laugh and cries when we cry.
It is the force of unconditional love.
It is the real Self...the one who knows...the one who cares...the one who waits...the one who loves.

When will you give your Self a chance?

Love to All
Ray

Hi Ray, I've heard you time and time again kind of poo poo away the idea that there is something more than what the main stream media says there is in terms of extraterrestrials and such.
I appreciate your self help mantras and all, and I understand we all have our areas of expertise, sometimes though, it is in fact better to look outside of ourselves and recognize the terrain for what it is rather than quote Jack Handy. Much love :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSrXpFb7jFo

Finefeather
18th January 2013, 18:42
Hi Ray, I've heard you time and time again kind of poo poo away the idea that there is something more than what the main stream media says there is in terms of extraterrestrials and such.
I appreciate your self help mantras and all, and I understand we all have our areas of expertise, sometimes though, it is in fact better to look outside of ourselves and recognize the terrain for what it is rather than quote Jack Handy. Much love :)
Hi DNA...thank you for your love.
I do know you are talking about a different person in this statement because my stance on the MSM has always been...disappointed and controlled.

As far as extraterrestrials is concerned...I have on more than one occasion actually been in a craft in out of body states. These craft are able to adjust the frequency of the matter which they are constructed of and can appear in 3D when ever they please. So I have a decided positive view on the existence of extraterrestrials. I have witnessed the earth from a distance in one of these craft. They are constructed of etheric matter, which is just outside our visual range. The process they use to change the frequency of the matter is a manipulation of the atoms of the various dimensions...in other words they build up around them the type of matter they need for each dimension. Many of the sightings we see in videos of lights etc are simply materialisations of events in the etheric planes which bleed through into the physical...and can also be an actual Being who has taken on a form, which just happens to resemble what we have come to recognize as a UFO.

I am also quite aware of the lengths which some people will go to, in order to accumulate wealth and thus a perceived sense of control over the human race...but if we look carefully at what these people control, and what part it actually plays in our true goal on this planet, then we should begin to realize, the insignificance of their doings. The only way we can begin to realize this is to become more aware of our real goals...and to act accordingly. So whilst I agree with your point on keeping our eyes and ears open to what is around us...this is simple awareness...which is often not so simple when we more than often are unable to comprehend the things we see before our eyes, and so, just start creating our own assumptions and conclusions based on more than often flawed facts.

I have a great interest in the UFO/extraterrestrial saga, but my stance on this is that more than a lot of it is a result of clever mind control of the masses in various ways...and the inability of those who draw conclusions from stories which have very little real evidence...and not to forget those who purposely create them for their own agenda.

My post was intended to remind us of the true nature of our Being and to indicate a sense of priority in our lives...and not to poo poo the thread. I actually rather enjoy reading some of the UFO threads on this forum :)

Love to you and all
Ray

niki
19th January 2013, 09:35
I am also quite aware of the lengths which some people will go to, in order to accumulate wealth and thus a perceived sense of control over the human race...but if we look carefully at what these people control, and what part it actually plays in our true goal on this planet, then we should begin to realize, the insignificance of their doings. The only way we can begin to realize this is to become more aware of our real goals...and to act accordingly. So whilst I agree with your point on keeping our eyes and ears open to what is around us...this is simple awareness...which is often not so simple when we more than often are unable to comprehend the things we see before our eyes, and so, just start creating our own assumptions and conclusions based on more than often flawed facts.


hi Ray, can you define more specifically (in layman terms) on what you exactly mean by your sentence above "to become more aware of our real goals" ?
really want to know the truth.
thx.

Sirius White
19th January 2013, 10:04
Of course there is a "third force."

Much more then that actually.

I saw it for myself after I first "awoke." It didn't scare me contrary to many who stumble upon the truth. It suddenly reminded me why I was even on the planet in the first place.

Think about it. What kind of agenda are things like GMO, artificial trees, destruction of one another, and the overall diminishing/dumbing down/degredation of not just human life, but its OVERALL POTENTIAL FOR EVOLUTION? It certainly is not a human agenda friends. It makes NO SENSE as a human agenda.

And to those of you who think that beings who can manipulate their frequency, atomic structure, and come in and out of perceivable frequencies are automatically "benevolent" because they are more advanced are in for a rude awakening!

The beings who have been controlling us do so easily. Why? Because they are not bound by the same limits of time or consciousness that we are. The IQ is also higher. They also have access to technologies which enable them to asses future probabilities among other things. We humans do today as well, which makes them crucial to be manipulated (and they are). Imagine you, as an adult male, having to deal with children who grow max to be about 6 years old before they die, and then have to reincarante with no memory. "Taking candy" from a baby then becomes not that difficult, if those children outnumber you 7billion to 1, as long as you give some of those select few children the candy, and show them how to control the others to take their candy.

People think a monstrous conspiracy of this kind is impossible, but it is only because their IQ has a limit and range. To beings who complex quantum physics mathematics of our time, is nothing but 2+2 addition to them, do you really think it is that far-fetched? Do you think the sheep suspect the Shepherd is controlling the Shepherd dog? Not really. Do the ants know who stepped on their kingdom?

Fred Steeves
19th January 2013, 11:45
The Third Force



IS THERE A MYSTERIOUS AND SUPERIOR THIRD FORCE THAT IS COVERTLY MANIPULATING THE WORLD THROUGH A SMALL NUMBER OF SUPER-ELITES WHO RUN THE WORLD’S MOST POWERFUL NATIONS ?




Hi Jack, thanks for the good article, it was very well done. If there's one thing I could add, it would be that I think the number of "forces" in this game goes well beyond 3. The interdimensional force interfacing with the "elite" being every bit as enslaved as we are, quite possibly even more so.

Finefeather
19th January 2013, 11:52
I am also quite aware of the lengths which some people will go to, in order to accumulate wealth and thus a perceived sense of control over the human race...but if we look carefully at what these people control, and what part it actually plays in our true goal on this planet, then we should begin to realize, the insignificance of their doings. The only way we can begin to realize this is to become more aware of our real goals...and to act accordingly. So whilst I agree with your point on keeping our eyes and ears open to what is around us...this is simple awareness...which is often not so simple when we more than often are unable to comprehend the things we see before our eyes, and so, just start creating our own assumptions and conclusions based on more than often flawed facts.


hi Ray, can you define more specifically (in layman terms) on what you exactly mean by your sentence above "to become more aware of our real goals" ?
really want to know the truth.
thx.
Hi niki
We need to understand that each has his or her own goals in life and so we take little steps at a time towards our real goal...which is locked in mystery for some of us, but is more evident for others as the veil slowly unfolds.

Our current goal in life is to become aware of the fact that we are Spiritual Beings and not just the personality we are aware of in our ordinary day to day lives. This personality, initially, has a dominant self serving mind and attitude...which is normal and comes from our long past days in our long journey where we were pure animal in nature and thus needed to survive. During this period some of us naturally rose to great heights in the domination and survival race. This was the start of the system of elitism we see still trying to control and dominate our lives...we can see this clearly in the animal kingdom, where dominance and physical strength rule the pack. These perceived elitists and dominate people do the same thing today. They are just becoming more and more intelligent, and constantly seek new ways to stay at the top. We see them in all walks of life. We should clearly see that if we keep certain information away from the masses we could imprison them in their own ignorance...in other words if we are not aware of who and what we are then we will just continue to live our lives trapped in someone else's clever made up world...where there is nothing but what you see around you. The most important thing to realise is that these elitists depend on the masses for their purposes of dominance and control. If we knew the real truth of who and what we are they would loose all control over us. Our parents are often our biggest negative influence because they themselves have been controlled. As time goes on this will change.
If you are been dominated and controlled by some force then all it means is that you have not yet got to the point in your life where you are fully understanding the nature of your true Self.
If the majority of humans were aware of our real goal there would be no dominance and control of the masses...it is as simple as that.

So lets look at our real goal here on the earth...

We, as Spiritual Beings...now called Human Beings have gone through millions of years of evolution and have passed through and experienced every kingdom below us...these are the mineral kingdom...the plant kingdom...and the animal kingdom. We have now got to the point of being humans. With this achievement we have become individual egos and not group soul pieces as in the lower kingdoms. We are now preparing to reveal our true natures...which is an individualised Spiritual Being...fully integrated into the heart of the ONE creator...filled with 3 primary qualities of Will and immortal life, Love and Wisdom and Intelligence which is the power of reasoning. With these qualities fully developed we would be able to live on earth or any other planet in peace and harmony, because we would all realise the fact of true brotherhood and unconditional love.

So just a final word to those who mistakenly believe we are so advanced...we...the masses of humans on the earth...are the youngest in our solar system. Many other waves of humans have come and gone on to greater dimensional expressions...some of these are here now to assist us and there will always be this unseen guidance and encouragement from our 'older' brothers. The current distractions we see around us will continue for 100s of years until we slowly realise the futility of the fight and surrender to our true natures the Higher Self...this is the ONLY reason for our pain and struggle and conflicts...we are still just not convinced enough of the true power and beauty inside us and rely only on the old instinctive animal like habitual past ways and attitudes and orders.

Love to you
Ray

Mutchie
19th January 2013, 14:12
If we could only find out more about THE DULCE FACILITY i suspect you would get your answers....I believe the human race are property and this planet is meant to serve us but its a Prison of sorts because it seems that we cannot leave it. As for the MASTERS is it as David Icke says ??? Its possible the Reptiles are most certainly here i think our planet holds a LOT MORE underground than most of us could EVER conceive they say every country has huge facility's and that they are all joined via a shuttle system so WHY are we all looking out into space when really its right beneath us here on our planet !:(

DNA
19th January 2013, 14:48
Hi Ray, I've heard you time and time again kind of poo poo away the idea that there is something more than what the main stream media says there is in terms of extraterrestrials and such.
I appreciate your self help mantras and all, and I understand we all have our areas of expertise, sometimes though, it is in fact better to look outside of ourselves and recognize the terrain for what it is rather than quote Jack Handy. Much love :)
Hi DNA...thank you for your love.
I do know you are talking about a different person in this statement because my stance on the MSM has always been...disappointed and controlled.

As far as extraterrestrials is concerned...I have on more than one occasion actually been in a craft in out of body states. These craft are able to adjust the frequency of the matter which they are constructed of and can appear in 3D when ever they please. So I have a decided positive view on the existence of extraterrestrials. I have witnessed the earth from a distance in one of these craft. They are constructed of etheric matter, which is just outside our visual range. The process they use to change the frequency of the matter is a manipulation of the atoms of the various dimensions...in other words they build up around them the type of matter they need for each dimension. Many of the sightings we see in videos of lights etc are simply materialisations of events in the etheric planes which bleed through into the physical...and can also be an actual Being who has taken on a form, which just happens to resemble what we have come to recognize as a UFO.

I am also quite aware of the lengths which some people will go to, in order to accumulate wealth and thus a perceived sense of control over the human race...but if we look carefully at what these people control, and what part it actually plays in our true goal on this planet, then we should begin to realize, the insignificance of their doings. The only way we can begin to realize this is to become more aware of our real goals...and to act accordingly. So whilst I agree with your point on keeping our eyes and ears open to what is around us...this is simple awareness...which is often not so simple when we more than often are unable to comprehend the things we see before our eyes, and so, just start creating our own assumptions and conclusions based on more than often flawed facts.

I have a great interest in the UFO/extraterrestrial saga, but my stance on this is that more than a lot of it is a result of clever mind control of the masses in various ways...and the inability of those who draw conclusions from stories which have very little real evidence...and not to forget those who purposely create them for their own agenda.

My post was intended to remind us of the true nature of our Being and to indicate a sense of priority in our lives...and not to poo poo the thread. I actually rather enjoy reading some of the UFO threads on this forum :)

Love to you and all
Ray

Well, I could apologise and say I regret what I stated, but being as I recieved such an insightfull clarification I'm glad I made the mistake. :)
This was some excellent stuff Ray. I appreciate the time, patience and detached manner in which you handled my missplaced remark.
Again, great stuff.
Do you have any links where you elaborate on these experiences? I would personally love to read about them.

I've had some experiences with folks of the nature of which you describe, and for the life of me, it's hard to know how to handle and classify the experience.


Take care