NWO (New World Order)

[bogeyman]

With nearly 300 countries in the world, is it possible that a New World Order is a good thing? Or is man determined to be continuously divided. Division has caused constant wars, and nationalism. As it not been said a "divided house will not stand"?

[Wind]

Oh, there surely will be a new world order. It just not what like the cabal was expecting for.

It will be an order of peace, love and harmony.

[GK76]

I am all for a new world order and a collective understanding of all peoples (by that I mean for cultures to be brought forward with a common goal), but, my concern is who gets to structure it and what happens to the current abusive system?

I think before we step into a NWO we first need to know the truth about the old, then make sure the new is built on the best of all possible aspects of humanity.

[Prodigal Son]

I like the idea of a global Meritocracy, while there continues to be national borders, except that the present "nations" become "states" with their own sets of laws that are determined by their culture. All the laws would have to conform to a single World Constitution not radically different from that of the US. It was and is a good plan, unfortunately being hijacked by the Globalist Parasites.

[Marikins]

The ideal would be a harmonic association of individuated nations. Variety strengthens and homogeny weakens. There will be less and less need for government as people take more self responsibility.

[ulli]

The system has to be tiered, in other words, there must be levels. Municipalities, districts, nations, and finally one large world parliament which directs information between the nations that serve the whole.
This has to be made up by representatives of all the people. If it were to come about today, then China and India would have the biggest clout. Something leaders from the industrialized nations want to avoid at all cost.
So their dream of democracy actually has major holes in it. Democracy in uneducated countries has proven that due to their ignorance most of those people allow their new leaders to shoot their way into public office. As has happened all over Africa, Central and South America, etc.
So the answer to getting to a fair and just world government would have to be education, and a common curriculum, to further better understanding between cultures. Also need are international protocols, that all agree to abide by.
But in my view, the most important thing that needs to undergo reform is political campaigning.
In its place the voters elect community members from their midst, of their choice, not someone who desires to put themselves up as a leader.
The best leaders are humble people, not ego driven, who have proven themselves to be of selfless character and only wish to serve humanity. Who, once they are elected would then turn around and say, I feel honored that you considered me worthy. I will promise to do my best.
When such a system is in place we would be ready for world government and world democracy, with a world parliament reflected every five years.

[spiritguide]

Last night on Coast to Coast the guest outlined the NWO Cabal as Satanist three or four generations deep and using their satanic forces to rule all the earth. The guest is a police chaplin who is in the forefront of the spiritual war before us. If we don't face this enemy then we will not make headway on any other level. Check out the interview. The funny feeling most have about something going on is this battle ongoing for many centuries. Another point to ponder!

:peace:

Link to c2c guest's website... http://www.shatterthedarkness.net/#

[Lifebringer]

They are a cancer composed of lies, murder, and corruption, that has made them insane and they need to be put down on the prosecutorial list of TO DO NOW. They cannot be left to our children or grandchildren, because their destruction hits them while they are young.

Has anyone here, took a gander at this: http://americannationalmilitia.com/eye-witness-to-murder-at-bohemian-grove/

This is manditory to end it. Are we to leave our children and grandchildren to these satanic ritual worshipers when so much evidence and whistleblowers are coming forth. They're trying to end it on their own, and need our support to bring the deranged religious child harmers to justice. Let them find their own island of volunteers among their peers away from humanity and it's children.

May they find the gates of their hell vision and enter it!

[Kryztian]

What we call the New World Order is really the Old World Order brought forward. It is the same families, the same powers that be, trying to consolidate their control over the rest of us. They know a New World Order is coming, and they want to control it.

What we need is a real New World Order, where We the People are in control. Where the light shines in the darkness so that we can clean out all the filth and corruption. We won't necessarily need one world government, because much of the divisiveness between nations, religions, races, etc. (which were created by the Old World Order to take the focus off them) will be gone.

[spiritguide]

What we call the New World Order is really the Old World Order brought forward. It is the same families, the same powers that be, trying to consolidate their control over the rest of us. They know a New World Order is coming, and they want to control it.

What we need is a real New World Order, where We the People are in control. Where the light shines in the darkness so that we can clean out all the filth and corruption. We won't necessary need one world government, because much of the divisiveness between nations, religions, races, etc. (which were created by the Old World Order to take the focus off them) will be gone.

Any steps forward to achieving true justice is to focus on indentifying the satanists and keep the focus on them until they are eradicated, plain and simple, but not without facing chaos face to face and fearing it not for the evil it is.

[apokalypse]

i never have One World Government or World Order but one problem i have is with current humanity and small percent of population on high level of pyramids of controlling structure. the system benefit for them or benefits for us which also it enable improve our spirituality to live with our soul.

[ceetee9]

I'm shocked by the number of people on this forum who, after all that has been said and seen regarding governments, can believe that an all encompassing and pervasive world government will some how be different and better than what we have now. That magically we can manifest a "New World Order" without the corruption, greed, and power hungry controllers that we can't get rid of now. We still seem to have that need for a chain of command (i.e., "Order") to tell us what to do, what to believe, who our enemies are, and to decide who's on the top of the heap and who isn't. How enlightened we truly aren't.

[Arrowwind]

I'm shocked by the number of people on this forum who, after all that has been said and seen regarding governments, can believe that an all encompassing and pervasive world government will some how be different and better than what we have now. That magically we can manifest a "New World Order" without the corruption, greed, and power hungry controllers that we can't get rid of now. We still seem to have that need for a chain of command (i.e., "Order") to tell us what to do, what to believe, who our enemies are, and to decide who's on the top of the heap and who isn't. How enlightened we truly aren't.


Just becasue you are on this forum does not mean that you are awake and aware. I see a great amount of people here far more interested in aliens, crystals, fairies and orbs than interested in their human rights and endeavoring to maintain them and their freedom, especially at this critical juncture that we are in right now.

There comes a day when you must graduate from newage kidnergarden.

[Maunagarjana]

I'm shocked by the number of people on this forum who, after all that has been said and seen regarding governments, can believe that an all encompassing and pervasive world government will some how be different and better than what we have now. That magically we can manifest a "New World Order" without the corruption, greed, and power hungry controllers that we can't get rid of now. We still seem to have that need for a chain of command (i.e., "Order") to tell us what to do, what to believe, who our enemies are, and to decide who's on the top of the heap and who isn't. How enlightened we truly aren't.

Does "order" really equal chain of command/hierarchy? Doesn't any way of organizing society constitute an order, even if that way of organizing is, say, Anarchy? I know what the elites mean when they use that word, but they are mistaken about so many things, and they do not understand what the term means, I think. They project their obsession with domination and control onto it. Whatever the case, what they want, none of us should want.

[T Smith]

With nearly 300 countries in the world, is it possible that a New World Order is a good thing? Or is man determined to be continuously divided. Division has caused constant wars, and nationalism. As it not been said a "divided house will not stand"?

A New World Order may well be a good thing if is it controlled from the bottom up, and not the top down. Believe me, the NWO being foisted on us today is controlled from the top down....and a very, very dangerous development for any chance at achieving a free humanity

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I hope that if there is a new world order that peole will consider appointing me as Supreme Minister of Ice Cream and Toppings :-)

I think i could do wonders in this field


Hugs

Naniu

[apokalypse]

doesn't matter what system you have in or any type of World order and call it what ever you want but one of the factor is the people. humanity must stand up fight back and put in genuine people in Government to Manage not in power to control. We need to get rid of these vulture flying around...

[Arrowwind]

A New World Order may well be a good thing if is it controlled from the bottom up, and not the top down. Believe me, the NWO being foisted on us today is controlled from the top down....and a very, very dangerous development for any chance at achieving a free humanity

thats exactly it, whether you are dealing with the environment, or state or federal law or NWO, its all about maintaining control, to maintian jurisdiction of your own back yard, your neighborhood collectively by the people of the county, your county by the people of the county, your state by the people of the state. If you dont have jurisdiction of your local reality you are not free. The best way people have found to do this is through a democracy with supportive laws... or a democratic republic as we have in the USA. In the USA we have lost control of the vote so we no longer have a democratic republic but a developing fascist state.

Our reality is flipping .... liberals are becoming facists and conservatives are becoming liberals... its all a spin designed to keep your head spinning and to confuse issues and keep you off topic, that being your loss of the power of the vote.

If you look at this sentence correctly you see that they are all becoming facists... that leaves only those of the libertarian persuasian sane for these really are the only people who hold to the constitution instead of where they are going to make their next buck.

[mosquito]

A council of guiding elders - yes, a government - NO !!!!!!

A council who, as Ulli states, realize they have been honoured, and who thereafter act toward those they serve in an honourable way. Do they have to be elected ? Well, a look at world history tells you just how succesful THAT model is, doesn't it. Maybe a good solution would be to have half the council made up of elders who've earned their place, and others who are elected, but under stringent conditions, chosen by the local people, not put forward by self-interest groups.

And it must be recognized that, contrary to what you may like to believe, there is no universal morality or system of ethics, the human family is made up of diverse cultures all of whom should have equal validity and recognition. Any kind of moral value system must be allowed to evolve, once again from the bottom up, rather than be imposed by one group who believe that they are the chosen ones.

Meritocracy ? No thank you !!! Who is it that "deserves" to vote ? Only people who have a silly piece of paper with the word "bachelor" written on it ? Only people with white skin ? Only people with $100,000 ? Only people who wear a suit ? Only people who talk non-stop about Jesus ? And yes, all of these options ARE EXACTLY the same.

A constitution modelled on the USA - Get real please !!! Don't let your cherished beliefs about "freedom" prevent you from seeing that the USA is a failed experiment. We need to heed the warning of what's happened there and LEARN. A future world constitution would need to recognize the rights of everyone and the rights of cultures to have different values.

But, all the above seems a little unlikely the way things stand at the moment.

As you can guess, I LIKE a world with rich diversity, it's a blessing. Those who come from countries/cultures who believe in their own superiority (that's most of us BTW ;) ) would do well to get some experience of our world before it's too late, you might learn something.

[ceetee9]

I'm shocked by the number of people on this forum who, after all that has been said and seen regarding governments, can believe that an all encompassing and pervasive world government will some how be different and better than what we have now. That magically we can manifest a "New World Order" without the corruption, greed, and power hungry controllers that we can't get rid of now. We still seem to have that need for a chain of command (i.e., "Order") to tell us what to do, what to believe, who our enemies are, and to decide who's on the top of the heap and who isn't. How enlightened we truly aren't.


Just becasue you are on this forum does not mean that you are awake and aware. I see a great amount of people here far more interested in aliens, crystals, fairies and orbs than interested in their human rights and endeavoring to maintain them and their freedom, especially at this critical juncture that we are in right now.

There comes a day when you must graduate from newage kidnergarden. Arrowwind, I don't know if you were addressing me or those you are calling the "newage kindergarteners," but if you were addressing me I think you'll find I've never claimed to be awake and aware. In fact, I've claimed that I know very little. The more I "learn" the more I realize just how little I actually do know.

And no doubt there are many people on this forum who are interested in things other than what's going on with their governments, human rights and their evaporating rights and freedoms and I've said on more than one occasion how that frustrates me. But as others have said before, everyone has to assimilate information at their own pace and when they are ready. It's not a quick, easy or fun process to change ones world view--particularly when the new world view shatters cherished beliefs and presents a far darker picture than ones long held world view. It took me many years of research before I started to "connect the dots" and see that the world I grew up and believed in was nothing like the real world. This was not a welcome experience, but I prefer truth to lies and deceit. Even at that do I, or any of us, really KNOW the truth? Learning is a life long process and one has to be open to change when new evidence refutes current beliefs and assumptions.

[Arrowwind]

I'm shocked by the number of people on this forum who, after all that has been said and seen regarding governments, can believe that an all encompassing and pervasive world government will some how be different and better than what we have now. That magically we can manifest a "New World Order" without the corruption, greed, and power hungry controllers that we can't get rid of now. We still seem to have that need for a chain of command (i.e., "Order") to tell us what to do, what to believe, who our enemies are, and to decide who's on the top of the heap and who isn't. How enlightened we truly aren't.


Just becasue you are on this forum does not mean that you are awake and aware. I see a great amount of people here far more interested in aliens, crystals, fairies and orbs than interested in their human rights and endeavoring to maintain them and their freedom, especially at this critical juncture that we are in right now.

There comes a day when you must graduate from newage kidnergarden. [/COLOR[COLOR=black]]

Arrowwind, I don't know if you were addressing me or those you are calling the "newage kindergarteners," but if you were addressing me I think you'll find I've never claimed to be awake and aware. In fact, I've claimed that I know very little. The more I "learn" the more I realize just how little I actually do know.

And no doubt there are many people on this forum who are interested in things other than what's going on with their governments, human rights and their evaporating rights and freedoms and I've said on more than one occasion how that frustrates me. But as others have said before, everyone has to assimilate information at their own pace and when they are ready. It's not a quick, easy or fun process to change ones world view--particularly when the new world view shatters cherished beliefs and presents a far darker picture than ones long held world view. It took me many years of research before I started to "connect the dots" and see that the world I grew up and believed in was nothing like the real world. This was not a welcome experience, but I prefer truth to lies and deceit. Even at that do I, or any of us, really KNOW the truth? Learning is a life long process and one has to be open to change when new evidence refutes current beliefs and assumptions.

No Ceetee9, I was not referring to you specifically... please forgive me if it might have seemed that way. Those who are still in newage kindergarden Im sure will recognize themelves once it is pointed out just what that is.

Im sure there are a few here on Avelon ready to do the good fight with full awareness of what this is all about and who fully understand that without freedom all their new age toys will break, all thier visions of love and peace will remain only a vision and never fruit within society and that what foundations they may have tried to prepare for their children will crack and crumble under the weight of tyranny.

We have been given a reprieve in our society to contemplate and to struggle freely for our awareness. But that door is now rapidly closing due to the powers that be. Although freedom and love does reign in the hearts of many I feel that we must work harder than ever to promote the agenda for consciousness. It is difficult to remain conscious or to bring consciousness to others when the tyranny is infiltrating our reality and altering our collective chemistry, our schools, our governments, our food supply, our medicine, even our clothing and shelter. So many of the posts here on Avelon are documents of revelation to the dire straights we are in.

When will the energy put into education and awareness transform into real resistance? When will resistance become the war cry to the path of freedom for your salvation and that of all of humanity?

We must press on to awaken as fast as we can and to shift this new awareness into real action and into true social evolution. It's time to stop contemplating the navel and take a stance politically, to rise up and speak and to write your consciousness into new legislation, new rules and laws, new rising voices from the masses declaring that we are not going to take it anymore, for they are coming down upon us rapidly and time is growing short. We have all the evidence here on Avelon, in the archives, on the forum, from many nations around the world.