MUST LISTEN -- Investigator Mike Powers: America, a nation now at war

[AnthonyBacala]

Bill, could you please make a new thread for this video to be discussed, and transfer any pertinent posts? I'm not sure how to do anything like this, and do not wish to deter the flow and intent of the OP.

Thanks,

Anthony

[jp11]

Anthony,

I appreciate and applaud your willingness to stand up for what you believe. I watched your video when it was first posted and was flabbergasted when you informed us you had been threatened with loss of your position because of it.

So as not to further go off topic I will stop...and I wanted you to know I support you and your future in expressing the truth, to
speak out against corruption, or act out towards bringing about a better future...

Thank you for making a difference in our world.

[DevilPigeon]

The question that keeps coming up for me, is how come this "op" was
so sloppy, i mean sloppy beyond belief.

Was it botched from the inside??

It does appear to be a spectacular unraveling of the game,
at least one layer. Unless it was all by design, in which case
what else is going on that they want us so turned the other way??
This is all taking viral to new heights.

Or it could have been planned to appear as if it were botched...? Could it be that they're using this in an attempt to alienate the "public" from "alternative free-thinkers"...?

Here's my thinking. September 11 was a heinous act no doubt (as was July 7 in the UK & all other false-flag events), but the difference this time is that children specifically are directly targeted. From a psychological perspective, this would provoke a much broader groundswell of emotions, and to question the official "story" would be viewed most likely in a deeply negative way (because even "they" wouldn't be so evil to target children, right?). Yet a story that is seemingly bursting with anomalies (even if it does focus on children) must surely be questioned!!! (think of it as a 'catch-22') The aim? My guess, to swing the "approval" of the "public" back towards the government, plus to get the "public" demanding tighter gun controls, and less resistance in future to anything the government announces. (as David Icke would put it - problem-reaction-solution)

Plus it seems like every day there's a new headline regarding gun crime these days... It all seems very predictable, much more so than even a couple of months ago.

As a follow-up to my last post, noticed a YouTube vid on David Icke's site that parallels pretty much my theory... Makes total sense.

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[turiya]

Selene wrote:


The presence of simultaneous and fake “drills” that involves real responders, “actors” and who-knows-what other parties allows the conspirators to control and genuinely confuse the participants themselves. So that actors like “Robbie Parker” or the genuine Coroner, Dr. Carver, can be led before the cameras still believing their appearances are “part of the drill” and not in connection with any genuine events If they’ve been held within a fake drill setting all day, without genuine access to media or their own cellphone, how would they know what had actually happened? And if anyone does tell them, they’ll think it’s still “part of the drill”.

Actors like the guy who “found children on his front lawn” can be prepped and rehearsed – even filmed – genuinely believing their stories are part of the drill. As the genuine media mob surrounds them after the real event – they can still think “This is just a game…” No wonder the coroner sounded so glibly “whatever….” He’d never actually viewed a child’s body that day, just invented something because he was told that would be his “role in the drill” and he was just playing along.

And after they discover the truth, yes, these people will be well and truly in fear for their lives if they say anything. Or, hey, the conspirators just do a “memory wipe” on them after they’ve testified. We know they have this technology – and use it frequently. Why not here? A little “medical checkup….just a precaution …normal procedure …heh, heh..”

I’ll bet if you approached any of these drill actors with questions today, they’d look at you quite blankly, genuinely baffled.

Given the extremely low probability that a genuine event will coincide with an identical “drill” on a sustained basis – as it did with 9-11, Murrah, Sandy Hook, London 7/7(date?) and others (the odds defy all probability) this suggests that we must all be on alert and post warnings for any announcement of an “emergency drill” or “simulated crisis”, especially in the U.S. It now surely means a real false flag is being set up nearby.

We're in the process of being conditioned... Just as the TSA is conditioning the American public to expect to have body orifices probed.
Expect more of this... where the line between drills & live events becomes more & more blurred.


Machine gunfire from military helicopters flying over downtown Miami Fl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri9ioCbqJCU&feature=player_embedded

As the following vid points out, the news media has already been bought up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSIZOD7e738

Here's an interesting bit of hearsay. It also comes from Joyce Riley's Power Hour Radio Show (hour 3).
Bonnie, a caller-in, relates a story a neighbor had told her after he recently spent some time in Las Vegas:

Woman Claims Sandy Hook Coroner admitted Shooting was a Hoax
Stephanie Sledge | The Government Rag | 26Jan2013 | Opinion

On Friday, January 25, 2013, on the The Power Hour w/ Joyce Riley, a woman by the name of ‘Bonnie’ called in and reported that the Sandy Hook coroner, Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, was spotted in Las Vegas. The woman claims she has information that she obtained from a close friend, who owns a business in the area.

She claims, “he just got back from Las Vegas, now mind you, this business owner is not like one of us – you know, he is just a normal citizen, but he told him he said – he was in Las Vegas and he was at one of the tables, and across the table from him was the coroner from Sandy Hook” (Photo obtained; Vegas Card).

“He took a picture of him on his Cell Phone , and uh, so the guy they got, they got to talking when he saw him take a picture and the man said… “You know, this is pretty fishy about Sandy Hook and its starting to look like a hoax,” and the doctor said, “it was a hoax.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72D1GnIuAvM&feature=youtu.be
Joyce Riley's Power Hour 'Past Shows' page (scroll to the bottom to find the January 25, 2013 show, hour 3): http://www.thepowerhour.com/past_shows/schedule_01_21_2013.htm

The woman did not elaborate anymore and claims she was trying to get the picture that the man took on his cell phone. Interestingly enough, the International Association of Coroners & Medical Examiners (IAC&ME) 2013, Executive Board Meeting, was held in Las Vegas on January 22-24th, 2013. This period would coincide with the statement that the caller claims her friend was also in Las Vegas.

http://thegovernmentrag.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/executive-medical-board-meeting-las-vegas-january-same-time-as-carver-seen-in-las-vegas.jpg
URL: http://thegovernmentrag.wordpress.com/2013/01/26/the-motive-at-newtown/

Take it for whatever it worth to ya.
turiya

[Flash]

In am sorry for Parker, for the coroner, and all those who appear and know it was an hoax.

They should pair together fast to commonly declare the hoax because they will be all dead within 2 years. As it happened with 9/11. Later they wait, by pairing together, alolne they are definitely dead, but together, it would be difficult to kill every single one of them saying the truth within say 1 week.

[scanner]

As Max Igan has said , "why are these Images of people being put on YT and by whom" we have to look at the bigger picture . How did the video get from the TV station to the internet, of Robbie Parker laughing just before his statement on TV ? Why wasn't it edited by the TV station and for what purpose was it left on there ?

There are 2 or more conclusions , 1 to see who is looking and post this stuff and to discredit the truth movement . 2 to stir it up so much, so they could blame you for starting a civil War in the US . I'm sure there are other reasons . One things for sure, this is not as THEY are portraying in the official MSM .

[Curt]

Has anyone seen this footage of the CT Governor from the day of the shooting?

It's a minute and a half clip. Many may have already seen it.

It's a press conference in which he says that '[he] and the Lt. Governor had been spoken to regarding the possibility of an event like this taking place in the state.'

The choice of words seems a bit strange to me.

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[TheGoat]

Wow so much new information in here. I've always thought that there was something up with the official story on this one but after listening to that interview and reading posts on here I realised that this is just the start. Thanks for sharing.

[pilot]

This article appeared on James Tracy's blog The memory hole: A couple from Canada travel to Newtown and interact with some of the townspeople and take a few pictures.

http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/28/an-inquisitive-couples-visit-to-newtown-connecticut/

It's interesting, and the comments section is a good read as well. So many people questioning this, people who normally never entertain such notions! Love it!!

[pilot]

As Max Igan has said , "why are these Images of people being put on YT and by whom" we have to look at the bigger picture . How did the video get from the TV station to the internet, of Robbie Parker laughing just before his statement on TV ? Why wasn't it edited by the TV station and for what purpose was it left on there ?

There are 2 or more conclusions , 1 to see who is looking and post this stuff and to discredit the truth movement . 2 to stir it up so much, so they could blame you for starting a civil War in the US . I'm sure there are other reasons . One things for sure, this is not as THEY are portraying in the official MSM .

I wondered about how the Parker video went viral so quickly. I also wonder about Robbie and his wife Alissa who grew up in Ogden UT where in 1991 a man by the name of Arvin Shreeve was arrested for child rape, among other things.

There is no "great doubt" that these charges are true. What ignorance. Amber Lee's story is accurate. Why would any man plead guilty to sodomizing children as young as twelve? Good heavens, man! This lunatic - calling himself God's emissary - had women prepare young girls by teaching them how to please Mr. Shreeve. And then he simply raped them and fell asleep while they lay rigid in the bed all night waiting for him to wake up and do it all over again; which he did repeatedly. Disgusting as well as cruel and brutal. What a pig! It's a wonder someone didn't kill him in jail. Good riddance. One more vile piece of garbage gone.

This cult apparently operated for about 10 years. From a small town like Ogden, where somebody always knows somebody who knows...our two grieving parents, devout Mormons by all appearances, hail. I had heard of child sacrifice at the highest level of the church, and there is apparently something to it, a big story broke in the early 90's, a leaked memo concerning 60 or so witnesses who claimed to have been involved in a satanic/mormon ritual and suffered terrible abuse at the hands of these ...

The Parkers appear to be the most wholesome of wholesome. The degree of perfection and wholesomeness that they exude just doesn't exist. I wonder how much $ they got for all this. Asking the public for a payoff the day after his child is murdered. What?! Who does that? Survivors of trauma based mind control perhaps?


http://prairiechicken.blogspot.com/2009/08/arvin-shreeve-polygamous-sect-leader.html

[RampartRanger]

GENE ROSEN WORKS (WORKED) FOR FEMA!?!?!? Could there be a bigger smoking gun!?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=625785&viewfull=1#post625785

[RampartRanger]

I have to agree with some interviewers that I think this is all planned with the intention of sparking a civil war. I just can't believe that this operation was carried out so sloppily by accident. "Nothing is a coincidence." The nation is already at each-others' throats (pro versus anti-gun)...now all TPTB need is to stage another FF attack (but this time executed flawlessly, no loose threads like Sandy Hook) with the flag this time being that of pro-gun people (militia, "Patriot" movement, etc. but they'll be called "domestic terrorists") and before you know it half the pro-gun people will start shutting down, distancing themselves from the "domestic terrorists", and basically becoming anti-gun people (or at best neutral parties since many won't drop their beliefs personally but will publicly). People would be surrending their guns left and right. Then the half of America that is staunchly pro-gun will become 1/10th of America that is staunchly pro-gun. Like I've said many times before since I've started posting here: TPTB aren't concerned about "gun-owners", they're concerned about those gun-owners that are ABLE AND WILLING TO RESIST. Another FF event that crucifies "those crazy gun-owners" will divide and conquer by controlling the minds of many would might otherwise resist a gun grab or fighting in a civil war. I'm reminded of a quote, I can't remember who said it or what context it was said in originally but I remember seeing it said about the Iraq...something basically like, "Why fight a war yourself when you can have the people war amongst themselves and do all the killing for you?" This is why it makes sense that they want to start a CIVIL WAR, one in which both sides doing the fighting have everything to lose and nothing to gain because the real enemy won't even be fighting. TPTB definitely don't want to participate in war when so many of the easily manipulated masses will flock to fight in the name of anything with absolutely zero justification or rationale.

[RampartRanger]

Interesting to say the least...
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It's like Gene Rosen's FEMA connection was just waiting to be discovered so all the FEMA camp believers go crazy. Few acronyms are more associated with nefarious government agencies and conspiracies than FEMA these days (notwithstanding the long history of FBI and CIA insanity).

[RampartRanger]

There is some debate on other sites that the FEMA - Eugene Rosen connection is hoaxed...

Then I saw this video:
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...and I thought that those photographs might have been tampered with, too. But these photos from different sources seem to confirm it:
Comparison shot post on another forum...
http://i46.tinypic.com/uc7ra.jpg
Huff Post picture almost certainly not tampered with, notice triangle in ear lobe...
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/907984/thumbs/r-NEIGHBOR-HELPS-SANDY-HOOK-STUDENTS-large570.jpg?14

Other interesting things:
http://www.citizencorps.gov/getstarted/youth/youthindex
http://www.sandyhookhoax.com/uploads/2/6/9/5/2695579/4814487_orig.jpg
I won't stand behind the kid comparisons...

[Joe Akulis]

What we really could use is something to give Bill a reason to eat his hat... But, maybe this isn't the time for fairy tales.

I've read lots of things from lots of places that kind of imply that the story that unfolds for our planet at this period in time possibly has very far reaching repercussions. Far in distance and far in time. (Depending on what you are willing to believe, as always.) It just seems difficult for me to accept that all the others offworld who already know that they are impacted by this "slavery wins or slavery loses" game being played out...

I do think this thread and others like it are important for as many people to see as possible, because it might make those who would be quick to take up arms and lash out, maybe they will think twice about taking the bait if they notice a little glint from the hook that's in it.

[RampartRanger]

Straight from the horse's mouth
http://www.fema.gov/photodata/original/37563.jpg
Compare this with the Huffington Post photo in my last post...both can be assumed to be untampered with.

Link to photo which can be zoomed in:
http://www.fema.gov/photodata/original/37563.jpg

[RampartRanger]

If we can find out if Eugene Rosen has a tattoo on his left wrist (above photo), it'll be 100% confirmed that he worked/works for FEMA.

[Referee]

Here is the video with the screen shot of Eugene Rosen's name and picture from a FEMA web site.

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[RampartRanger]

WTF!?
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Here is the video with the screen shot of Eugene Rosen's name and picture from a FEMA web site.

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This video specifically is probably a hoax (or part of it). Notice the misspelling...and if you go onto the actual website that picture was pulled from, it doesn't have his name. Seems like the video's maker was eager to try to prove the connection. If it weren't for the misspelling I'd think that maybe the gov removed his name from the website but the misspellings AND the name not being on the .gov website say to me that this video is hoax.

[RampartRanger]

There's speculation on another website that the alleged Eugene Rosen - FEMA picture is actually this guy:
http://www.fema.gov/photolibrary/photo_details.do?id=40779

I'm still debating and looking for confirmation either way...

[Zelig]

There's speculation on another website that the alleged Eugene Rosen - FEMA picture is actually this guy:
http://www.fema.gov/photolibrary/photo_details.do?id=40779

I'm still debating and looking for confirmation either way...

I think you've cleared that up.

[RampartRanger]

I really don't care whether or not Rosen works for FEMA, this video is all the evidence I need to know this guy is a creeper:
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I could see that this video may be him practicing for an interview...but why would he be doing that? Why would he need to be "practiced"?

[Referee]

Photographer is openly harassed and moved talked to and moved and yelled at and this is very odd...

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[RampartRanger]

Unless we find out Gene Rosen has a tattoo on his left wrist, I'm going to have to concur that the FEMA - Rosen connection is BS. That picture that's suppose to be Rosen, the guy just looks too close to FEMA guy Houston Hester that I posted above.

[Referee]

Unless we find out Gene Rosen has a tattoo on his left wrist, I'm going to have to concur that the FEMA - Rosen connection is BS. That picture that's suppose to be Rosen, the guy just looks too close to FEMA guy Houston Hester that I posted above.

I think you are correct however the other video you posted with the possible gene Rosen walking around at the firehouse that is different. I wish I knew someone who could blow up that image to compare.

[pilot]

The picture of Huston Hester you posted has no tattoo on the wrist, also earlier today I saw a close-up comparison of Rosen's ear to the man in the FEMA photo and it looked like a match, it was in a video called "Gene Rosen patsy or perp." I think, sorry, would link but having trouble with me laptop.

[ExomatrixTV]

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[Snookie]

Interesting to say the least...
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It's like Gene Rosen's FEMA connection was just waiting to be discovered so all the FEMA camp believers go crazy. Few acronyms are more associated with nefarious government agencies and conspiracies than FEMA these days (notwithstanding the long history of FBI and CIA insanity).

I was wondering why this picture wasn't scrubbed. Surely he had to have known it was on the FEMA site. I tend to agree that they left it there on purpose.

[Snookie]

There's speculation on another website that the alleged Eugene Rosen - FEMA picture is actually this guy:
http://www.fema.gov/photolibrary/photo_details.do?id=40779

I'm still debating and looking for confirmation either way...

I don't think that guy is Rosen. From what I can tell his hair is much whiter than Rosen's and his nose is different. Rosen's teeth jut out more as well.

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Sorry, now I get what you're saying. I also don't think the Hester guy is the same guy talking to the kids (supposedly Rosen) if I had to choose I'd say guy at Sandy Hook & the guy talking to the kids look more alike. Who knows what the hell his name really is.

[Hervé]

There is some debate on other sites that the FEMA - Eugene Rosen connection is hoaxed...

Then I saw this video:
7u7-ERvDOys
...and I thought that those photographs might have been tampered with, too. But these photos from different sources seem to confirm it:
Comparison shot post on another forum...
http://i46.tinypic.com/uc7ra.jpg
Huff Post picture almost certainly not tampered with, notice triangle in ear lobe...
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/907984/thumbs/r-NEIGHBOR-HELPS-SANDY-HOOK-STUDENTS-large570.jpg?14

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... notice triangle in ear lobe...

Where???

Not sure what the video uploader has been inhaling but I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pipe:


https://fwtinw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1ppHjlnjhevbRJfWsi_53o7-p-F79w9VU4m5gckkhteIEI_3wey9pCCncFFa68no7bGKv_f4bid1V9RynAqQkuw5xgMzL1vCej/Image-2013-1-31-3h9mn52.jpg?psid=1


https://fwtinw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1ppHjlnjhevbQpmRFONgra7uIy9si9Jouj8PF0yfAvp5LDGP1P5sLFU1rgslzfyxAwbFO5X8tNtwfLws0cjTnrzVxROZg3eYp9/Image-2013-1-31-3h8mn39.jpg?psid=1

[Butangeld]

There seems little doubt that this event was in someway rigged to forward an agenda that wants a civil war, or some other excuse, to lead to a requirement for Stasi style police-state rule. Anyone with that goal in mind would need to be sure of disarming potential rebels early on.

I don't like one bit where this is all going. Proving that this event was a kind of false-flag operation does not seem to me to be a good way to resist the agenda. Convincing anyone outside of this forum that this event was a psy-op will be a fruitless affair. Everyone out there is talking about gun control, and what it should look like. It's a framed debate.

One way to resist their agenda without talking about guns or the obvious flaws in the SH event though, is to take them at face value and point out the proven connection between psychiatric medications and mass murder/homicidal behaviour.

Just trying to reframe their debate and steer it away from the disarmament of sane people. Take the medications away and leave the guns where they are.

Rivero has a list and videos here: http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ssriviolence.php

[norman]

The BBC angle on the US gun debate is so like their angle on "climate change".

Gabby Gifford was the darling of the bbc ( radio ) last night and it was glaringly obvious how well they've plotted the timing and the characters of this move.

I feel strongly that they are hoping that the gun rights people will shoot themselves in the foot ( no pun intended ) by getting caught up in a 'debunking' of events like Sandy Hook and whatever else they come up with next.

That way, they can really marginalize the gun rights people in the big numbers game in the media.


It's vital that Americans stay right out of the mess of mixing up the truther movement and the basic constitutional issues.

If they can get as far as convincing masses of asleep Americans that "constitutionalists" are all a bunch of whacko conspiracy theory nutters, they will be home and dry. Pushing our buttons with outrageously hoaxed events is a device we are, so far, falling for in enough numbers to give them encouragement to turn up the madness even higher.

[RampartRanger]

There is some debate on other sites that the FEMA - Eugene Rosen connection is hoaxed...

Then I saw this video:
7u7-ERvDOys
...and I thought that those photographs might have been tampered with, too. But these photos from different sources seem to confirm it:
Comparison shot post on another forum...
http://i46.tinypic.com/uc7ra.jpg
Huff Post picture almost certainly not tampered with, notice triangle in ear lobe...
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/907984/thumbs/r-NEIGHBOR-HELPS-SANDY-HOOK-STUDENTS-large570.jpg?14

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... notice triangle in ear lobe...

Where???

Not sure what the video uploader has been inhaling but I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pipe:


https://fwtinw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1ppHjlnjhevbRJfWsi_53o7-p-F79w9VU4m5gckkhteIEI_3wey9pCCncFFa68no7bGKv_f4bid1V9RynAqQkuw5xgMzL1vCej/Image-2013-1-31-3h9mn52.jpg?psid=1


https://fwtinw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1ppHjlnjhevbQpmRFONgra7uIy9si9Jouj8PF0yfAvp5LDGP1P5sLFU1rgslzfyxAwbFO5X8tNtwfLws0cjTnrzVxROZg3eYp9/Image-2013-1-31-3h8mn39.jpg?psid=1

If you had read any of my posts after the one you quoted you would have seen I said more than once that the Gene Rosen - FEMA connection is probably BS (internet hoax). I tend not to reply in a thread until I've read it all the way through to the last post so I don't make the mistake you just did.

pilot, that picture of who we know is Houston Hester doesn't show a tattoo on his left wrist but it could be covered by his watch. It seems likely that the FEMA worker with the kids picture is Hester because we know he works for FEMA in TX and that picture is a FEMA worker in TX who looks just like him.

I really doubt Gene Rosen worked for FEMA on the lone basis of the picture of the FEMA worker who looks like him. Now if we discover Rosen has the same tattoo on his left wrist, that'd really thicken the plot. But I don't we'll discover that.

[Hervé]

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If you had read any of my posts after the one you quoted you would have seen I said more than once that the Gene Rosen - FEMA connection is probably BS (internet hoax). I tend not to reply in a thread until I've read it all the way through to the last post so I don't make the mistake you just did.

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It is not "probably"... It is... had you paused to look a little closer.

[pilot]

I don't think the pictures of the ears match-so it's not Rosen IMO, but Rosen is pictured with the Gov. of Alaska, who attended Sandy Hook Elementary??? Huh? Even if we move on from the FEMA thing, he clearly is some kind of operator in this drama. This is some information that I hope you all will take a look at and decide if it's relevant:

http://newtownbee.com/Features/Features/2011/07-July/2011-07-29__12-14-46/Enjoy+Calendar+for+the+week+ending+July+29

Look at the narrow column to the left on this page from the Newtown Bee. It appears that his wife is Marilyn Fairfield Rosen, in the photo 3rd from the right. Is that Fairfield as in Fairfield, CT?? I think I'll take some time & look in that direction.

[pilot]

It seems his father in law was a member of the royal order of jesters. Make of that what you will. Also, I'm getting confused about this FEMA thing, there is a video with EXIF data naming Rosen as a FEMA representative, is that hoaxed?? WTF!

[RampartRanger]

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If you had read any of my posts after the one you quoted you would have seen I said more than once that the Gene Rosen - FEMA connection is probably BS (internet hoax). I tend not to reply in a thread until I've read it all the way through to the last post so I don't make the mistake you just did.

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It is not "probably"... It is... had you paused to look a little closer.

Thank you for blessing us with that final determination. We'll never have to wonder now.

Your response doesn't even acknowledge that you yourself made the same mistake of not looking a little closer (and for you, looking a little closer was as easy as scrolling down the page, but I'm not the only one struggling to differentiate between two older white men who by and large look quite similar)...At least I admitted it I was wrong...not that you bothered to scroll down the page and notice.

[Hervé]

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Thank you for blessing us with that final determination. We'll never have to wonder now.

Your response doesn't even acknowledge that you yourself made the same mistake of not looking a little closer (and for you, looking a little closer was as easy as scrolling down the page, but I'm not the only one struggling to differentiate between two older white men who by and large look quite similar)...At least I admitted it I was wrong...not that you bothered to scroll down the page and notice.

Amen!


Huff Post picture almost certainly not tampered with, notice triangle in ear lobe...
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/907984/thumbs/r-NEIGHBOR-HELPS-SANDY-HOOK-STUDENTS-large570.jpg?14


https://fwtinw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1ppHjlnjhevbQpmRFONgra7uIy9si9Jouj8PF0yfAvp5LDGP1P5sLFU1rgslzfyxAwbFO5X8tNtwfLws0cjTnrzVxROZg3eYp9/Image-2013-1-31-3h8mn39.jpg?psid=1




If we can find out if Eugene Rosen has a tattoo on his left wrist (above photo), it'll be 100% confirmed that he worked/works for FEMA.




[..]


This video specifically is probably a hoax (or part of it). Notice the misspelling...and if you go onto the actual website that picture was pulled from, it doesn't have his name. Seems like the video's maker was eager to try to prove the connection. If it weren't for the misspelling I'd think that maybe the gov removed his name from the website but the misspellings AND the name not being on the .gov website say to me that this video is hoax.

There's speculation on another website that the alleged Eugene Rosen - FEMA picture is actually this guy:





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I'm still debating and looking for confirmation either way...

I really don't care whether or not Rosen works for FEMA...

Unless we find out Gene Rosen has a tattoo on his left wrist, I'm going to have to concur that the FEMA - Rosen connection is BS. That picture that's suppose to be Rosen, the guy just looks too close to FEMA guy Houston Hester that I posted above.



In all the above posts of yours, and preceding mine, there isn't one iota of certainty that Rosen isn't the FEMA guy... correct? Just a forced acceptance in the last one but not on the evidence of a no-match of their respective ears which you yourself provided.

I ran into the same confusion and enforced reality on readers of this forum about those ears in this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=626472&viewfull=1#post626472) <---, prior to running into your post.

All this only shows that the intended, designed confusion is taking its toll and that much of the distractions could be avoided by paying attention to details which, I concur, are not always easy to spot in the mist of that intended confusion.

[pilot]

Today a discussion began on the Memory hole blog of James Tracy about the Sandy Hook school building not being in use at all. Someone looked at bing maps and drew a conclusion about there being no cars in the parking lot of Sandy hook, which is the case, however that is not proof the school is not in use. I went to Principal Dawn Hochsprung's twitter where there are some photos, mostly interiors, around the school. There is one in particular that I find interesting. I can't seem to find the corresponding location on the bing map. The photo is of an evacuation drill that took place on Oct 17th, a group of teachers with the kids lined up outside, and in the background you see a building with a black pitched roof. In the bing satellite picture, I can see no black roof, and most of the buildings seem to have flat roofs. I can give you links but can't do photos yet. Please take a look and tell me what you think:

https://twitter.com/DHochsprung
http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?q=newtown+ct&mkt=en&FORM=HDRSC4

[pilot]

I'm replying to my post above because there is a building at the fire station with a black pitched roof that could be the location of the photo. That is addressed on the Tracy blog, but he was wondering why kids would be taken down the street to the firehouse during the drill, when presumably in a real evac situation, the road would need to be clear for emergency vehicles...all this just stinks and I'm getting a little fatigued by it.

Am the only one?

[RampartRanger]

Amzer Zo,

I didn't post on here saying "OMG ROSEN WORKS FOR FEMA!", but that's how you've responded thus far. Like I said, I'm not the only one struggling with comparing two guys that by and large look very, very similar. And you've once again managed to not even acknowledge that you yourself have made the same mistake that you've pointed out I made...yet you hypocritically told me I should have looked at the details more. All you had to do was scroll down the page to see that within a few minutes I had already posted again repeatedly saying that it's probably a hoax, how hard was it to look for those details (more of my posts, on the very same page, just a few posts later)??? I had to go digging on the web to see others posting clarification on different forums. I did that, and posted here with what I found to clear things up. Sorry I ever posted something that wasn't 100% definitively true [note sarcasm]...wait, what is the majority of this and most forums like it made up off? Speculation...sure I believe in a lot of it (9/11 truth, JFK and RFK conspiracies, etc.) and much of it is supported by solid evidence but the majority of it is not provable or proven at this time and may likely never be proven.



In all the above posts of yours, and preceding mine, there isn't one iota of certainty that Rosen isn't the FEMA guy... correct? Just a forced acceptance in the last one but not on the evidence of a no-match of their respective ears which you yourself provided.

I ran into the same confusion and enforced reality on readers of this forum about those ears in this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=626472&viewfull=1#post626472) <---, prior to running into your post.



I wasn't making an argument earlier with the whole Rosen FEMA thing, it was all just speculation obviously unless you lack a healthy skepticism and prefer to jump to conclusions (or maybe assume that others do?). But now you've actually started an argument here, though I'm not sure why. Why should I have been certain that Rosen was NOT the FEMA guy? There was nothing that jumped out at me that would exclude that possibility. I didn't provide the ear comparison picture with any accompanying text saying, "these ear shots are an exact match", did I? Yet that's how you're reacting. I posted that picture to see what others had to say. If you look, there is a triangular shape to Rosen's ear, it is there although it looks a little different from the other guys ear lobe. Do the ears match otherwise? Not necessarily, but the lighting and everything else about the shots make it hard to say exactly. I've never claimed to be a trained eye. I didn't get forced to accept anything, I came to conclusion that since this guy Houston Hester exists, it's most likely that he is the FEMA guy and not Rosen.

[RampartRanger]

I appreciate this guy's skepticism but I think he's like most of the masses at this point and trying to compartmentalize chunks of reality so he can pigeon-hole them into normalcy as if all the inconsistencies can somehow exist in harmony/"Sandy Hook is the absolute weirdest shooting in history but it is certainly NOT a hoax/conspiracy". He makes some valid points and details some possible explanations but seems to ignore the critical mass of "WTF!?" that makes many of us drop our jaws at the Sandy Hook case.
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[RampartRanger]

I stumbled upon this video and absolutely love it:
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[RampartRanger]

Reviewing the "social media" comments by Lt. J.P. Vance one more time is quite revealing to me:
"One thing is becoming somewhat of a concern and that is ‘MISINFORMATION’ that’s being posted on social media sites. It is important to note that we have discussed with federal authorities that these issues are crimes. They will be investigated statewide and federally and prosecution will take place when people perpetrating this information are identified. Again: All Information relative to THIS CASE is coming from these microphones and any information coming from other sources cannot be confirmed and in many cases, it’s been found that it’s inaccurate."

When did freedom of speech become a crime? Last I checked, I can say anything as blasphemous as I want and as along as it is not defamation against any corporation or person it is not a crime. Is it now illegal to defame (speak critically of, damage the reputation of) the government or it's actions (like say, investigations)!? Oh wait, defamation of the government that was part of our Bill of Rights and a clear intention of our Founding Fathers; The People should always have the ability to say whatever they want about their government with absolutely no restriction. "All relevant information is coming from these microphones"!? That's nearly a subtle way of saying, "LISTEN TO AND OBEY AUTHORITY" which is just so anti-American I can't believe so few Americans are up in arms about it. Competition is great for capitalism, but I guess it's out of it's element when it comes to the media, eh!? Not to mention democracy (elections).

[RampartRanger]

Not to mention, who are the biggest pushers of misinformation? Can the lamestream media be found guilty of anything!?

It seems obvious why Vance specifically mentioned social media and NOT the MSM...
The disinformation the MSM is spreading can be much more easily dispelled ("debunked"), vanquished (deleted, never seen or heard of again, can't be referenced), and otherwise controlled however necessary because obviously the MSM isn't try to push any conspiracy or hoax info. If anything, the media's disinformation does serve a purpose and it's details, placement, and time all serve a function.

Contrast this to social media's so-called "misinformation", which is raw, more-or-less uncontrollable (though Facebook seems to be getting into the business of rolling red tape), and admittedly not falling in line with the official narratives/cognitions.

By Vance's own admission (or would it be an omission!? ;)), the disinformation is only at issue with this investigation if it is coming from social media. This seems to be a red herring given that the focus is not on disinformation itself but selected sources of it.

[aquarian_monk]

Wow, all I have to say is wow. It's unfortunate how easily the sheeple (ignorant masses) are being led these days.

[Gerald Paris]

More recent info.


http://americanfreepress.net/?p=15503

Youtube interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEfW9FvLyAg

condensed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAXyfcpcn-s

I hope this adds to this thread and does not diminish.

Much Love

[Gerald Paris]

part 2 condensed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joflAKFNTjw

[Flash]

I listen to the interview this morning while chatting with hum..... Chester lol (he does not know), this is an incredible and very interesting interview. A must listen.

[Rainbowheart]

What do you think - is this a real chance to go in the direction of peace?

CELAC / Zone of Peace: “A key step to countering the globalization of militarism” – UN Expert

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=14215&LangID=E

[tnkayaker]

Here's Gentlemen Gene Rosen with some of his grammy award winning acting. :thumb:
Lights, Camera, Action. Roll em.....
Im convinced, much like Lucky Larry Silverstein convinced me when he told that whopping Dermatologist story on the morning of Sept 1, 2001. Oy Vey!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI3cZhQndrY

oh pa-lease!

[Gerald Paris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUH4yBdFn1w

[skuzzy]

Very goo dwork everyone, i smelt fake very early on. I just wish i knew these facts when i heard people talking about how it was such a horrible event, that kid was demented, guns are bad.....

I cant read all the posts but did anyone mention this: i heard or read that none of the children killed have ever been named, as legally required in any murder. I may be wrong(it has happened in the past, once :P ) but i definatley remember hearing that point being made. Or maybe it was the obituaries of all those 'killed' at sandy hook.

The only up side to that whole debacle, besides the exposing of the false flag, was that all those children were not really killed. It would take a very sick person to actually shoot children for money. but then i keep hearing about this child pedophilia ring the vatican is now being charged with, so who knows wtf some 'people' are capable of.

[Perdido]

I cant get that coroners hideous laugh out of my mind. There is something really wrong with that man.

I wonder how long before he has an accident? He was compromised in a huge way. That man knows things. Even if he was an actor.

Accidents are on the way. There going to have to clean up.Or they could have
another FF to divert attention.

I was told by an ex-CIA U2 pilot that they got the Assassins from Mental Wards. Being in the Air Force for 9 years and talking to people ... I have come across a couple of those assassins.. they are crazy as hell. Hooked on killing.. I think the CIA recruits such people in all it's departments.. as they are easily controlled and removed.. They are all unstable individuals.

[Perdido]

Thanks to Gio's post in Up at the Ranch (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch--James-Gilliland-and-Trout-Lake-&p=619054&viewfull=1#post619054), I am listening to Max Igan's perspective. Thanks Gio :)


Max echos my sentiment of a contrived event to "unhinge humanity".
I was listening to it too, and I agree that with Max Igan's analysis that this is a contrived event, taunting those of who are noticing the deliberate inconsistencies (as in this thread) to engage in combat. Heck, just like the protester's in the various color and spring revolutions incited in other countries, us Americans don't even have to initiate or engage in the combat. The bastards in power will gladly play both sides of this Kabuki theatre for us, in order to set up the drama justifying their tyrannical response.

Here's the MP3 audio of Max Igan's entire 55 minute talk:

http://thecrowhouse.com/dl/MaxIgan_SandyHook_An_American_Coup_detat_Surviving_The_Matrix_Jan18_2013.mp3
Source: http://thecrowhouse.com/dl/MaxIgan_SandyHook_An_American_Coup_detat_Surviving_The_Matrix_Jan18_2013.mp3

>>>The bastards in power will gladly play both sides of this Kabuki theatre for us, in order to set up the drama justifying their tyrannical response.<<<

In the Air Force we said, "You can always hire half the pilots to shot down the other half."

[7he5ource]

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Dear All,

I'm doing something I rarely do: I'm bumping this interview to the highest prominence I can.

Trust me on this. It's one of the most compelling interviews I've ever heard on any subject. (And I've heard a few.)

To download the audio from the YouTube video, use snipmp3.com. (http://snipmp3.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyoutube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DSK8tLX6VQp4)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK8tLX6VQp4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SK8tLX6VQp4

Direct audio download (no commercial breaks, 1 hr 25 mins):
http://projectavalon.net/Joyce_Riley_interviews_Mike_Powers_Jan_16_2013_The_Power_Hour_Sandy_Hook_Special_Investigation.mp3

The unedited radio show is two hours long, but you'll be so riveted it'll pass quickly. Mike Powers is a very sharp, connected, experienced military-trained investigator who knows exactly what he's talking about. He details more anomalies in the Sandy Hook story than you can shake a stick at -- far more than I was even aware of -- and his delivery is powerful, articulate, persuasive, clear, and unequivocal.

His conclusion: America is now at war.

Every Avalonian -- and everyone else, if you're reading this and are not a member -- must listen to this.

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