CT School Shooting & The Film 'We Need to Talk About Kevin'

[Curt]

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[gooty64]

Nice find and thread, curtisW.
With that said, my question is:
Why do humans buy into this garbage?
By garbage, I mean the movie, and the producers of it, the players in it, and the ones that are entertained by it.

[Curt]

What garbage are you referring to Gooty?


Why do humans buy into this garbage?

[SilentFeathers]

Finds like this are not garbage, Hollywood has been proven to be a "messenger" for TCTB in my opinion.

TCTB: The Critters That Be

[Lifebringer]

After the 1st "night of the living dead" movie and Halloween, i stayed away, not because of fearful thoughts, but because it clearly proposed the butchering of people/innocents by deranged minds, and in the event a child in our family had the same troubles, that frame of mind is behavioral and what some may call spontaneous phychotic inactment or what some others would call: "What would so and so do(fill in the name of their mentor or hero) Shows like "dexter" show a charecter operating normally or subnormally on the job and replacing evidence to blame others and because he wears a badge, they cheer for the "justice" serial killer who's traumatized at childhood when witnessing his mother being cut up with a chainsaw in a steel cargo container, the detective who's secretly screwing the hooker mom for information and finds her, feels guilty and adopts the child.

Long story short, they are saying the end justifies the "means" of how it's done. 5 or 7 seasons now, and the gore continues on the "how to mimick" killers in a secret world of darkside theology.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Love the new title like I loved powers that "were."

[Curt]

... Hollywood has been proven to be a "messenger" for TCTB in my opinion.

TCTB: The Critters That Be

Hey S.F., That very well might be the case. There are some pretty smart people who tend to hold that viewpoint.

But even setting that aside for a moment... however these parallels between real life and film come about, whether by design, or through some other means, noticing them seems somehow important.

[Lifebringer]

TCTW=The Critters That Were
I wonder if i can piece together a song. Hmmm... something of discovery, truth, and victory of the good would be appropriate.

Deeeeeee Ceeeeee
is like a boil on OUR behind
Pussie, water infected DeeeCeee
By the critters that were

It's got hint of...
Justice peroxide, on the hide
Just a dab or two just won't do
Because the germs, can hide

Can it be that it can be so simple as
Using OUR laws, to draw the line
And now that WE have the chance to do it all again
Tell me....Will WE?...Should Weee....

DeeeCeeeee.....
may be putrid still, and yet...
Least we throw the bumbs out handily....
Or do WE stupidly forget...

Ohhhh, this is the last time....
WEEEE will rememberrr....
WE told them in NOvemberrrr...
The Critters, That Wererrrrr...

Hmmmmmm...mmmm...mmmm...mmmmm....hmmmm:)

[SilentFeathers]

... Hollywood has been proven to be a "messenger" for TCTB in my opinion.

TCTB: The Critters That Be

Hey S.F., That very well might be the case. There are some pretty smart people who tend to hold that viewpoint.

But even setting that aside for a moment... however these parallels between real life and film come about, whether by design, or through some other means, noticing them seems somehow important.

I think it is VERY important, especially when looking at Hollywood from a political perspective.

Hollywood follows orders quite well and pounds things into the minds of the masses in a timely manner.

The timing of and the movie "Lincoln" is a good example.

[Curt]

I tend to agree :) Strongly, in fact.





... Hollywood has been proven to be a "messenger" for TCTB in my opinion.

TCTB: The Critters That Be

Hey S.F., That very well might be the case. There are some pretty smart people who tend to hold that viewpoint.

But even setting that aside for a moment... however these parallels between real life and film come about, whether by design, or through some other means, noticing them seems somehow important.

I think it is VERY important, especially when looking at Hollywood from a political perspective.

Hollywood follows orders quite well and pounds things into the minds of the masses in a timely manner.

The timing of and the movie "Lincoln" is a good example.

[Curt]

And I fully appreciate that this is a sensitive issue and that people have been badly traumatized.

So, I don't raise the points I've raised lightly.

I'm hoping it may shed light, not only on this event, but on the way films often so eerily parallel events in the real world.

Because, as Silent Feathers was suggesting, that's potentially an important part of the puzzle.

[SilentFeathers]

Yeap, whenever there is a political message to be pounded in to the people, a famous movie star(s) gets it across, often times better than the MSM does....almost always dove-tailing and repeating word for word what's coming out of the Whitehouse.

Obama changing the don't ask don't tell thing is a good example too.....there's a homosexual element in almost all of the new shows coming out now. I about couldn't find one channel/show playing the other night on TV without some "gay" element on it!...and pharma commercials in between.

Not to mention the campaign for gun control spewing out of Hollywood right now, which started way before Sandy Hook and has built up to Sandy Hook.....and has now went viral.

Paying attention a certain way to Hollywood is like paying attention to the intentions of the White House.

[modwiz]

What I also find suspicious, especially these days, is the targets. Schools, malls, movie theaters. Funny how Wall Street isn't a selection by these disgruntled people. That would be an interesting public reaction to witness.

I hope it never happens.

[gripreaper]

The timing of and the movie "Lincoln" is a good example.

And the content of this movie was so full of lies, it made me puke. Every time someone I know raved about it, I told them about how 7 southern states walked out of congress and NEVER reconvened, how the organic constitution and government died, how the corporate US government was set up, how the Reconstruction Act and the 14th amendment made us all slaves, and how the banksters killed Lincoln and got control of the money supply.

That's what really happened in 1861 through 1871, not some moral and highly integral emancipation of anybody!

[SilentFeathers]

The two movies that stand out to me the most with this Sandy Hook event is of course the Dark night Rising Batman movie, but to me The Hunger Games is even more profound than the Batman Movie. The author of the hunger games is from Newtown, CT., which is really bizarre, but the theme of child sacrifice in the movie and it's timing is even more bizarre.

There's no doubt in my mind that the movie "We Need to talk about Kevin" has it's purpose and a message in the middle of all of this too.

Hmmm, it's not just the fault of the mentally deranged young killer, but the mothers fault too.....hell, it's the fault of the killers whole family.....(it's in their genes).

Interesting that on about day one of the Sandy Hook shooting the coroner said they wanted DNA samples from Adam Lanza......and most of Obama's executive actions are focusing on mental health. (and a lot of Hollywood propaganda is spewing mental awareness too).....mental problems are well known/documented already to be hereditary in many cases.

So soon they will say that if you are related to a violent mental person or have a history of a relative killing someone you can't own a gun!

[SilentFeathers]

The timing of and the movie "Lincoln" is a good example.

And the content of this movie was so full of lies, it made me puke. Every time someone I know raved about it, I told them about how 7 southern states walked out of congress and NEVER reconvened, how the corporate US government was set up, how the Reconstruction Act and the 14th amendment made us all slaves, and how the banksters killed Lincoln and got control of the money supply.

That's what really happened in 1861 through 1871, not some moral and highly integral emancipation of anybody!

...and I heard somewhere Obama was using Lincoln's Bible to be sworn in for his second term, perhaps sealing all the lies.

[Curt]

The two movies that stand out to me the most with this Sandy Hook event is of course the Dark night Rising Batman movie, but to me The Hunger Games is even more profound than the Batman Movie. The author of the hunger games is from Newtown, CT., which is really bizarre, but the theme of child sacrifice in the movie and it's timing is even more bizarre.

There's no doubt in my mind that the movie "We Need to talk about Kevin" has it's purpose and a message in the middle of all of this too.

Hmmm, it's not just the fault of the mentally deranged young killer, but the mothers fault too.....hell, it's the fault of the killers whole family.....(it's in their genes).

Interesting that on about day one of the Sandy Hook shooting the coroner said they wanted DNA samples from Adam Lanza......and most of Obama's executive actions are focusing on mental health. (and a lot of Hollywood propaganda is spewing mental awareness too).....mental problems are well known/documented already to be hereditary in many cases.

So soon they will say that if you are related to a violent mental person or have a history of a relative killing someone you can't own a gun!

Yes, the media is on a major offensive talking about mental health and 'prevention' by screening for mental illness

In many ways it's a coequal theme with 'getting rid of guns' in the wake of these tragedies.

And in a sneaky way, it's almost easier for the Creeps to talk about this, because it's less contentious.

It's sort of like they have people saying, 'we the public agree something needs to be done, but what?'

Then they give us two options. Option A.) Talk about guns. Option B.) Talk about the need for mental health reforms.

'B.) sounds good!'

Option B.) costs less emotionally/psychologically for people, so it's an easier conversation for the Creeps to advance.

They can almost use the first issue to create a draft for the second one-to use a cycling analogy. (After all, 'Lance' Armstrong is a big story these days, so why not.)

NB: I believe Lanza means Lance in Italian. Ahh, the universe.

The guns issue draws serious debate.

But talk about the need to safeguard mental health and they get zero resistance from people who all imagine it to be an innocuous thing.

And maybe that's because it's harder to imagine the negative consequences of governments 'safeguarding our citizens' mental health' than it is to imagine the more obvious consequences of being disarmed.

But really, only slightly more imagination is needed to see the danger in good old option B.)

[SilentFeathers]

The second amendment becomes irrelevant if everyone in the USA (except for authorities of course) are mentally unfit to own a gun.......

This sounds far fetched, but the process of labeling people mentally unfit is being laid on the table right now.

[SilentFeathers]

The second amendment becomes irrelevant if everyone in the USA (except for authorities of course) are mentally unfit to own a gun.......

This sounds far fetched, but the process of labeling people mentally unfit is being laid on the table right now.

I was thinking in this direction when I wrote the OP in this thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54513-Sandy-Hook-Seed-Sprouts-The-New-Boogie-Man

The West Point think tank article really is quite spot on in my opinion.

[Curt]

The second amendment becomes irrelevant if everyone in the USA (except for authorities of course) are mentally unfit to own a gun.......

This sounds far fetched, but the process of labeling people mentally unfit is being laid on the table right now.


Sadly, it doesn't sound as far-fetched as it should. There seems to be a massive push to pathologize every aspect of human behavior so that it can all be controlled.

The next DSM edition will probably refer to childhood as 'a dangerous psychotic disorder affecting people under the age of 12'.

[Carmody]

Time is not linear, and echoes of things, strong events have ripples. Those ripples form after the event and also BEFORE the event.

BEFORE the event.

BEFORE the event.

Don't give the PTB types that much power .....for it is a power that they do not have.

For example, that folks would have seen the film and focused upon it and steered reality INTO that funnel or curve/trough/hollow/direction. Water flows down hill, and so on.

And that we form our reality, we form the flow the water, the hill, and the directions.

If it scares the crap out of you, well, learn to swim through time and reality formation.

Seriously. Not much choice, for that is the whole thing, in essence.

So no, it does not surprise me that the event is 'foretold' in advance, as time is not linear and ripples in both directions are VERY real.

That our minds, our consciousness, our awareness and attention, force of will, as a combination...this forms reality.

and, for example, that instead of a short film of two lousy hours, in the form of a pre-ripple in time....that right now, for months on end, essentially...that 8 million people are fighting the American revolution against secret societies and Templars.

in the form of this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/29/Assassin%27s_Creed_III_Game_Cover.jpg

Your flowing reality fits it in, it shapes itself on the fly, like a boat, ocean currents and winds, forming as one, one inside the other.

Your mission, if you choose to accept it, it to understand this and start tacking into the wind, understanding what is going on.... and take charge of the formation of this reality and it's directions... instead of doing it blind and emotionally driven by unknowns.

within the realm of the science of it, we have a group of monks, who meditated in Washington DC and they calculated the level of reduction in violence in the city that would occur, while they where in meditation of peace. never mind this temporal pre-echo effect that is piled on top of such scenarios. (this experiment in meditation, is, BTW, one measly experiment among thousands, see the book titles below)

You will also find groups to work pretty darned hard to disprove this 'effect' that happened in DC.

The usual corporate and black ops driven PTB falsification 'fluffers' that are out there, doing their best to keep people in the emotionally driven spell, so they can remain as a "herd animal of psychic/dimensional reality formation"--to control that.

Like James Randi probably was (a hired thug), a tool for making sure that no one large group of people take it seriously, by being the foil for the scientific minded, so science never looks at it seriously. that he would seek out emergent psychic science and people, and slam them.... to be sure that no scientists would ever take it seriously. was he a hit man of sorts, a very specialized type.... for those who wish to remain in charge?

TWO BOOKS:

PSI SPIES, by Jim Marrs

..and ..

'THE FIELD' by Lynne Mctaggart.

Both..ESSENTIAL reading, if you want to know the backdrop of this non-linear time aspect and what you and 'reality' actually are.

~~~~~~~~~

Regarding assassin's creed, and our reality formation, as a pre echo and it's own sort of event:

Back in December, Ubisoft had revealed that Assassin's Creed III is the fastest selling game in the company's history with total sales surpassing the seven million mark worldwide.

According to the company, in solo missions alone, players have accumulated more than 82 centuries of gaming time and committed more than 3 billion assassinations. The deadly action continues in the multiplayer, where more than twice as many players have joined the multiplayer mode compared to Assassin’s Creed Revelations. To date, more than 250 million assassinations have been performed in more than 5 billion multiplayer sessions.

http://tech2.in.com/news/gaming/assassins-creed-iii-battle-hardened-pack-dlc-now-available/684522

Now, compare that lousy film and a few hours of a few million viewers time... to something like the energetic and reality formation capacities of the game's statistics...which are above.

Holy mother of god. What exactly are you looking at?

[Carmody]

Also, understand that I have precognition, non linear time issues, every day.

365 days a year.

I do know what I'm speaking about, when I speak on this subject.

[avid]

"Common Purpose" - even driven in worse directions - they meet daily in the White House, under various guises - to manipulate society. If their goals are not working, turn the screw tighter!!! It's mind-control in the extreme.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0409/Common_Purpose.html
See also the raison d'étre http://www.cpexposed.com/about-common-purpose
Once we realise the manipulation, we can extract ourselves from it, and not participate in their 'game plan'.

[Cidersomerset]

I watched Halo last night and I love a
good old scy fi movie, this unerved me with
the young cadets straight from the start
brainwashed into serving their country against
insurectionists and Terrorists......OK it was
a throw away movie based on the computor
game I think, but everything seems to be
shoot um dead, now this has always been
the case, and its probably I've had an
'I Live' momment and its just how i see
the movie industry.Blood & guts puts
bums on seats !

Anyway this movie is earily coincidental
at this time,,,


These clips shows the dynamic between mother and son
or lack of.In one she comments that he has been out
of his head since a minor on prozac,and theres a
very distant hug at the end...

0Z86CUVfFhE

[Calz]

Your mission, if you choose to accept it, it to understand this and start tacking into the wind, understanding what is going on.... and take charge of the formation of this reality and it's directions... instead of doing it blind and emotionally driven by unknowns.

....

TWO BOOKS:

PSI SPIES, by Jim Marrs

..and ..

'THE FIELD' by Lynn Mctaggart.

Both..ESSENTIAL reading, if you want to know the backdrop of this non-linear time aspect and what you and 'reality' actually are.





Actually I believe I have both buried in a stack somewhere or another ...

(thanks Carmody for all you do here ... glad you are on "our side")


http://www.justsaypictures.com/images/mission-impossible-01.jpg

[Snookie]

The second amendment becomes irrelevant if everyone in the USA (except for authorities of course) are mentally unfit to own a gun.......

This sounds far fetched, but the process of labeling people mentally unfit is being laid on the table right now.

And Big Pharma is smiling all the way to the bank!

[Curt]

Hi Cider,

Thanks for this video. It pretty well captures the mother/son dynamic throughout the film.

And it's a big part of the film, this idea that the mother is responsible for the murders.

Maybe it's part of a larger 'the parents are losing control of their kids' meme that's being advanced.




Anyway this movie is earily coincidental
at this time,,,


These clips shows the dynamic between mother and son
or lack of.In one she comments that he has been out
of his head since a minor on prozac,and theres a
very distant hug at the end...

0Z86CUVfFhE

[Flash]

The second amendment becomes irrelevant if everyone in the USA (except for authorities of course) are mentally unfit to own a gun.......

This sounds far fetched, but the process of labeling people mentally unfit is being laid on the table right now.


Sadly, it doesn't sound as far-fetched as it should. There seems to be a massive push to pathologize every aspect of human behavior so that it can all be controlled.

The next DSM edition will probably refer to childhood as 'a dangerous psychotic disorder affecting people under the age of 12'.

Cannot agree more. There is a push as well to demonize motherhood, blaming mothers for everything. Put the blame on the weaker one as always. Why not putting the blame on the lack of support to mothers in this society. Since when do we have to be superwomen, working full time, having a career, raising children while being dumped by the dad's who take NO responsibilities on a daily basis, having no community support and add to this an autistic child, you are calling for real big problems that will be reflected in society.

Putting blames on mothers is really weak in my opinion. The mother may be insane and need help as well, or she is just an overwhelmed mother with no help for a very sick child (98% of parents with autistic children end up divorcing, it is that difficult and guess what, it is always the mother who remain with the child).

Plus, in some countries, it something has been done wrong in the factory for example, a man will NEVER get blames, they will blame the little women who is just wiping the place instead, and she has learned to accept the blame in order to save face for her group. However, she is the one punished, losing her job, etc. Blaming mothers only continues this incredible putting down of women that has been going on for centuries if not thousand of years.

This remind me of Aaron Russo when he was speaking to one of the Rockerfellers, being described how the family unit had to be destroyed in order to impose worldwide dominance of the psychopaths on top. You are now seeing the results.

On family and women, start at minute 4:00, however, the rest of the video is reaaaally worth listening to as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpjCk-h6iM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpjCk-h6iM

Paula, your first wako problem: when I try to embed, I have this: video=youtube;NcpjCk-h6iM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpjCk-h6iM [video=youtube;NcpjCk-h6iM]. Same with smileys, when I try to put them on from the Avalon site (not keyboard keys), they always go to the beginning of the post, not at the right place within the post. I do not know what to do with this.

Ok, this is happening on one of my computer only, so I will try to find the problem here, alghough I do not know where to start (did check security stuff)

[Curt]

...This remind me of Aaron Russo when he was speaking to one of the Rockerfellers, being described how the family unit had to be destroyed in order to impose worldwide dominance of the psychopaths on top. You are now seeing the results.

On family and women, start at minute 4:00, however, the rest of the video is reaaaally worth listening to as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpjCk-h6iM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpjCk-h6iM


Yep. It certainly puts me in mind of what Aaron Russo had to say.

[Flash]

~~~~~~~~~

Regarding assassin's creed, and our reality formation, as a pre echo and it's own sort of event:

Back in December, Ubisoft had revealed that Assassin's Creed III is the fastest selling game in the company's history with total sales surpassing the seven million mark worldwide.

According to the company, in solo missions alone, players have accumulated more than 82 centuries of gaming time and committed more than 3 billion assassinations. The deadly action continues in the multiplayer, where more than twice as many players have joined the multiplayer mode compared to Assassin’s Creed Revelations. To date, more than 250 million assassinations have been performed in more than 5 billion multiplayer sessions.

http://tech2.in.com/news/gaming/assassins-creed-iii-battle-hardened-pack-dlc-now-available/684522

Now, compare that lousy film and a few hours of a few million viewers time... to something like the energetic and reality formation capacities of the game's statistics...which are above.

Holy mother of god. What exactly are you looking at?

My problem is with the killings. The fact that they are killing is a problem to start with from my point of view (vantage point) but I do not know the game. Who are they assasinating, templars and secret societies???? How does it work. Is it a good thing or a bad one inciting to violence against whatever???? What are the ripple effects???

If negative, against human, we should talk to that French woman main owner of Ubisoft.

[Belle]

Tho' we live in a patriarchal society, it is women/mothers who exert the greatest influence on future generations...they must be vilified and demonized in order to keep the current paradigm going.

The only thing I disagree with, Flash, that women are weaker. imo, women are the stronger...considering all the crap we end up being stuck with and yet somehow able to rise above it all.

[SilentFeathers]

It's interesting to note as I mentioned in another thread that relates to this thread.


has many decades in the making, severely escalating with the feminist movement and no fault divorce in the 70's. IMO

Especially with no fault divorce and the family court system!

Fathers have been often demonized in divorce one way or another and the mother usually gets custody......this is complex and I am very familiar with the family court system etc.

Now it seems after a few decades of mostly mothers only raising children after divorce (full custody/custodial parent) and fathers kicked out and demonized to a large extent, (deadbeat dads, etc) the tables are turning.

The gender bias is fading it seems to me and now mothers are becoming targets more of "character assassination" so to speak, which ultimately at the end of the day, ALL PARENTS, especially those of divorce will be demonized and blamed for the next generation of "problem children".

No fault divorce, radical feminism, and the family court system, CPS, VAWA, etc etc etc has played a HUGE roll in the "Destruction of the Family" and has contributed to the mess we have in society right now in a HUGE way.

[9eagle9]

I think I predicted that the 'Women will Lead the World" program that so many (mostly men...lazy men) were hurling about just a few short years ago was a means of making women responsible for everything. Another sort of well hidden patriarchal contrivance. Woman would not really be 'leading the world ' (and women in their right minds wouldn't want to ) but they could certainly take the blame for everything...which is just a continuation of the way things have been up to now.







The second amendment becomes irrelevant if everyone in the USA (except for authorities of course) are mentally unfit to own a gun.......

This sounds far fetched, but the process of labeling people mentally unfit is being laid on the table right now.


Sadly, it doesn't sound as far-fetched as it should. There seems to be a massive push to pathologize every aspect of human behavior so that it can all be controlled.

The next DSM edition will probably refer to childhood as 'a dangerous psychotic disorder affecting people under the age of 12'.

Cannot agree more. There is a push as well to demonize motherhood, blaming mothers for everything. Put the blame on the weaker one as always. Why not putting the blame on the lack of support to mothers in this society. Since when do we have to be superwomen, working full time, having a career, raising children while being dumped by the dad's who take NO responsibilities on a daily basis, having no community support and add to this an autistic child, you are calling for real big problems that will be reflected in society.

Putting blames on mothers is really weak in my opinion. The mother may be insane and need help as well, or she is just an overwhelmed mother with no help for a very sick child (98% of parents with autistic children end up divorcing, it is that difficult and guess what, it is always the mother who remain with the child).

Plus, in some countries, it something has been done wrong in the factory for example, a man will NEVER get blames, they will blame the little women who is just wiping the place instead, and she has learned to accept the blame in order to save face for her group. However, she is the one punished, losing her job, etc. Blaming mothers only continues this incredible putting down of women that has been going on for centuries if not thousand of years.

This remind me of Aaron Russo when he was speaking to one of the Rockerfellers, being described how the family unit had to be destroyed in order to impose worldwide dominance of the psychopaths on top. You are now seeing the results.

On family and women, start at minute 4:00, however, the rest of the video is reaaaally worth listening to as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpjCk-h6iM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpjCk-h6iM

Paula, your first wako problem: when I try to embed, I have this: video=youtube;NcpjCk-h6iM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpjCk-h6iM [video=youtube;NcpjCk-h6iM]. Same with smileys, when I try to put them on from the Avalon site (not keyboard keys), they always go to the beginning of the post, not at the right place within the post. I do not know what to do with this.

Ok, this is happening on one of my computer only, so I will try to find the problem here, alghough I do not know where to start (did check security stuff)

[9eagle9]

I see the wisdom in that statement and women DO tend to be stronger than men, hence the need for a patriarchal society. It has not always been this way, men were at one time equally strong in masculine essence as women are in their feminine. Men have lost more of their selves and strength through patriarchal powers than women have. In actuality men should really have more of a beef with the patriarchal than women.

At one time it was the woman power that teamed with the man's ability to intellect, think, reason, project.

Eventually though the patriarchal made men more co-dependent on women, and further drags society down because the power source becomes a baby sitter instead of having a strong counterpoint to move energy through.



Tho' we live in a patriarchal society, it is women/mothers who exert the greatest influence on future generations...they must be vilified and demonized in order to keep the current paradigm going.

The only thing I disagree with, Flash, that women are weaker. imo, women are the stronger...considering all the crap we end up being stuck with and yet somehow able to rise above it all.

[9eagle9]

If you consider that 'their' mind is essentially the collective consciousness, it would make sense that their ideas, and ways of going eventually leaks out through art, writing, etc. Through one's personal expression. That is why we see so many 'stories' that are essentially the same, save they are re-arranged differently to make them seem original. Or 'new' re-interpretations of the old stories. They have a limited framework to work within and tend to do the same thing over and over again.

If Eve had just married the snake we'd all be much better off ;)



And I fully appreciate that this is a sensitive issue and that people have been badly traumatized.

So, I don't raise the points I've raised lightly.

I'm hoping it may shed light, not only on this event, but on the way films often so eerily parallel events in the real world.

Because, as Silent Feathers was suggesting, that's potentially an important part of the puzzle.

[Flash]

Tho' we live in a patriarchal society, it is women/mothers who exert the greatest influence on future generations...they must be vilified and demonized in order to keep the current paradigm going.

The only thing I disagree with, Flash, that women are weaker. imo, women are the stronger...considering all the crap we end up being stuck with and yet somehow able to rise above it all.

We do not disagree here at all, we are definitely wiser and very strong :p

20153

Stole it from Calz in the here and now thread, thanks Calz http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=621324&viewfull=1#post621324

I sincerely think we are very strong, this is why we have been hammered for thousands of years. However, while giving birth, raising children, etc we are really in position of vulnerablity, albeit temporarily, and it may be profitted from.

For example, Afghan women cannot do much when the society is litterally killing them if they read (previously under the Taliban).

[Flash]

I see the wisdom in that statement and women DO tend to be stronger than men, hence the need for a patriarchal society. It has not always been this way, men were at one time equally strong in masculine essence as women are in their feminine. Men have lost more of their selves and strength through patriarchal powers than women have. In actuality men should really have more of a beef with the patriarchal than women.

At one time it was the woman power that teamed with the man's ability to intellect, think, reason, project.

Eventually though the patriarchal made men more co-dependent on women, and further drags society down because the power source becomes a baby sitter instead of having a strong counterpoint to move energy through.



Tho' we live in a patriarchal society, it is women/mothers who exert the greatest influence on future generations...they must be vilified and demonized in order to keep the current paradigm going.

The only thing I disagree with, Flash, that women are weaker. imo, women are the stronger...considering all the crap we end up being stuck with and yet somehow able to rise above it all.

Oh Gosh do I LKE these post of yours, exactly. The power source becoming a baby sitter, how often have I felt that.... numerous times. Some jerk once told me "you are not a woman" to xhich I answered "to be a woman I need to have a man in front of me". This was exactly how I felt, being a baby sitter. Sending this to my sister right away, she is complaining fo the same lately with new boyfriend..

[Dorjezigzag]

Also, understand that I have precognition, non linear time issues, every day.

365 days a year.

I do know what I'm speaking about, when I speak on this subject.

I am glad that this is now being talked about, I am often involved in creative projects and it is always fascinating how they mirror events that are happening in the external world. This is actually something that can drive you crazy if you do not just except it as a natural phenomenon and come to expect it. I would not recommend talking to most psychologists about this, they will probably try to stick a label on you and ply you with there snake oil that may stop you seeing the synchronicities but will also stop you living to your potential.

I have noticed this synchronicity for a long time and it almost becomes that the art creates itself, one example, I developed a series of works on a boxing theme, making an analogy to the gladiatorial games and the idea of sacrifice, including the sacrifice of Christ and what seems to be the public's lust for this. I have developed a technique that I do to put randomness into my work where I cut up the work and then put it back together and see what it makes me think of and then develop this further. Anyway the image that was appearing made me think of the 9-11 towers but it was like burning faces within a tower, which of course can relate to the tarot card of the tower.

Anyway I started on a painted version of this but it took on a different quality that I shall get to later.

Some weeks before while in England I had felt a large earthquake, I told this to my girlfriend who was with me and had felt nothing. It then transpired that at that exact time there had been a large earthquake in New Zealand, the other side of the world, with loss of life.

I had one or two others that seemed to connect with further less serious earthquakes around that pacific area. Then on the day after I had started my painting I felt a huge one, again my girlfriend was the witness who can confirm this, and again she felt nothing. I think I actually said to her s**t that was a big one, anyway of course what came on the news was the whole incident in Japan, whose time of happening totally correlated with when I felt it in England.


A word that came into my head while working on my painting before the tsunami was meltdown, it was like a fiery rod with burning human faces and I felt it represented our world in many ways that was experiencing meltdown in so many ways psychologically, financially etc , etc, which again is reminiscent of the tower in the Tarot.

Of course that word meltdown became extremely prescient as the events unfolded. I was extremely distraught over the next month and I felt compelled to work on the painting but it made me sick it was almost like it was giving off a radioactivity.

The whole creative process can seem to tap into something and the making of a film involves many creatives, many of whom are good people. A lot of planning goes into a film but often these go wrong and a film set is a lot more chaotic and spontaneous than many will realize.

This is not to say that I do not think that the corporate heads of the few large media companies left have an agenda. They certainly do choose stories and naratives that back up their beliefs and agendas. They are weavers of dreams, nightmares and realities.

But as Carmody said do not credit them with more power than they actually have, they may like to think they are and do all they can to prove it but they are not the ones in control.

So when experiencing synchronicities try not to always jump to the conclusion that it is manufactured, it may be a message form the universe not those that like to control.

[Curt]

But as Carmody said do not credit them with more power than they actually have, they may like to think they are and do all they can to prove it but they are not the ones in control.

So when experiencing synchronicities try not to always jump to the conclusion that it is manufactured, it may be a message form the universe not those that like to control.

I agree that we should be careful not to power their visions for the future by investing our will/intent in them.

I also agree that they are not the ones with power, given that they seem to need ours (our energy) to make things manifest.

This dynamic alone suggests we're the ones with the 'power', however much control they attempt to exercise over how we spend it. They need our investment. They need our proverbial blood.

And I also agree that films/books/art often do reveal truths not sanctioned or controlled in any way by the controllers--that the universe can be said to speak through these media.

Synchronicity is a force more powerful than any temporal weasel ruler could ever be. :cool: