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Flash
22nd January 2013, 04:04
This first report is about the new America, where middle class has no more hope. An excellent report as you do not see in USA.

http://www.cbc.ca/thenational/indepthanalysis/brokendream/

There will be a follow-up tomorrow with economic analysis viewed by Canadians, therefore VERY DIFFERENT from the brainwashed American media propaganda.

Flash
22nd January 2013, 04:46
In the news tonight in Canada:

THE FALLING MIDDLE CLASS IN USA

USA middle class nobody cares for anymore, very good report starting and the economics of America, a fallen dream PLEASE START MINUTE 27:00. The previous are Canadian news. The report on democracy and capitalism in USA versus the rest of developed countries is made, not in favor of USA. Very good analysis, although made for the more intellectual general public. However, this is what we get here as information. But, wouldn't you want to have at least similar news in USA?? And ours are still biaised compared with Europe.

http://www.cbc.ca/thenational/watch/



OBAMA WAS NOT THE FIRST PRESIDENT TO BE BORN ABROAD = starting minute 44:00

Another president was born outside USA, in fact in Bedford, Québec, Canada, see video above starting minute 44:00.

I will get the extract tomorrow, it is not on the CBC site yet.

Ellisa
22nd January 2013, 05:53
I can't get the 2nd video to play!

This is interesting and we are reading similar articles in Australia. They are NOT diatribes against the US, but reasoned accounts about what is happening, or indeed, not happening, in Government. It's quite sad to read.

Please tell me who that President was. I know someone was born in Panama, but his birth was registered in the US-- which is apparently OK. I personally find it hard to understand why an immigrant, who legally came to the country, perhaps as a baby, is not considered eligible to be President.

Flash
22nd January 2013, 06:16
I can't get the 2nd video to play!

This is interesting and we are reading similar articles in Australia. They are NOT diatribes against the US, but reasoned accounts about what is happening, or indeed, not happening, in Government. It's quite sad to read.

Please tell me who that President was. I know someone was born in Panama, but his birth was registered in the US-- which is apparently OK. I personally find it hard to understand why an immigrant, who legally came to the country, perhaps as a baby, is not considered eligible to be President.

On my second post, I change the first video about the fallen middle class in USA, you will find the part specific to the topic.

I haven't gotten the second extract yet, for the other President that was not born in USA (no, it is not Carter), I will post tomorrow when I find it in CBC site.

Carmody
22nd January 2013, 07:06
Eisenhower, was born in panama, IIRC?

161803398
22nd January 2013, 07:13
CBC FM Vancouver. I always enjoy it. http://www.radioguide.fm/internet-radio-canada/radio1-vancouver#

Curt
22nd January 2013, 10:16
There were rumors Chester A. Arthur might have been born in Canada. And wasn't Kennedy also born overseas?

sumkat
22nd January 2013, 11:40
and was'nt george h.w.bush also born outside the u.s.????

panopticon
22nd January 2013, 12:33
As Ellisa pointed out, in Australia the media reporting on the various problems and situations in the US is very similar to this.

In the first video collection, I found #4 'The Death Of The Middle Class' very interesting. I have some experience helping people who have lost most of their material possessions, through no fault of their own, and have witnessed the trials and tribulations they go through. Living in cars, couch surfing, in parks and/or alleys all are familiar ground. I had a bloke living in the back 10 acres for about 3 years in his van. He even built a little garden shed on stilts for a kitchen and put in a couple of water tanks. Simple life was all he was after since he lost everything in the faster lane. We used to have long chats about the problems the Calvinist work ethic has wrought on western society. We never asked for anything from him and he never intruded into our lives uninvited. He moved on a year or so ago to a small unit where he has access to a large yard that he put raised beds in and planted out with veggies. Last I heard he's still got very few of the trappings and is very happy with his life. We've had an assortment of others over the years staying here with us but his was the longest duration.

I don't much care for talk.
I just like to see things being done, that help others when they need it most, with no questions or strings attached.
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

Flash
22nd January 2013, 12:33
Eisenhower, was born in panama, IIRC?

It is not him, since he was born in Panama from parents in mission, it does not count.

Wind
22nd January 2013, 12:38
Whoops........

Flash
22nd January 2013, 12:39
There were rumors Chester A. Arthur might have been born in Canada. And wasn't Kennedy also born overseas?

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A genealogy look out

Please guys, listen to the second video, it tells you what is being told to the Canadian public about USA. When it comes to that in Canada, it is because USA is well advance on the path of fascism.


Thursday, June 02, 2005


Our Canadian President?



Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U. S. Constitution states that "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President." Could a man born in Canada have slipped into the White House through deception?

Chester Alan Arthur (he pronounced his middle name al-AN) was, according to the official account, born in Fairfield, Vermont, Oct. 5, 1830, the son of Reverend William and Malvina (Stone) Arthur (his gravestone confirms this date). One biographer, Thomas C. Reeves, has concluded that he was born a year earlier—on Oct. 5, 1829— and that Arthur changed the date "no doubt out of simple vanity."1

Changing his year of birth is forgivable (Arthur was well beyond the age requirement for the presidency); but could he have changed his place of birth as well? Arthur P. Hinman thought so. Hinman, a New York lawyer, brought the issue to the attention of the Brooklyn Daily Eagle in a letter early in August, 1880, while Arthur was yet a candidate for the Vice-Presidency. Arthur evidently had flip-flopped on the issue in the past. One article, dated August 13, quotes a leading Republican in a way reminiscent of more recent campaigns: "Why in —— don't the General come out and say where he was born, and put an end to all this mystery."

Hinman first theorized that General Arthur was born "in Belfast or Aberdeen," before his parents emigrated to America. Arthur could easily dismiss this theory, for he had always maintained that his father emigrated at eighteen years of age—before he married and had children.

Hinman pushed on. The following story appeared in the New York Times of Dec. 22, 1880:

MATERIAL FOR A DEMOCRATIC LIE

ST. ALBANS, Vt., Dec. 21.—A stranger arrived here a few days ago, and registered at the American House as A. P. Hinman, of New-York. Since then he has been very busy in the adjoining town of Fairfield, ostensibly collecting materials for a biography of Vice-President-elect Arthur. He has privately stated to leading Democratic citizens, however, that he is employed by the Democratic National Committee to obtain evidence to show that Gen. Arthur is an unnaturalized foreigner. He claims to have discovered that Gen. Arthur was born in Canada, instead of Fairfield; that his name is Chester Allen instead of Chester Abell [sic]; that he was 50 years old in July instead of October, as has been stated, and generally that he is an alien and ineligible to the office of Vice-President.
Arthur Hinman would publish a book, How A British Subject Became President of the United States, the substance of which was related in a Brooklyn Daily Eagle article dated June 2, 1884:
The main charge of the book is that William Chester Alan Arthur was born in Dunham Flats, Canada, on [sic] March, 1828, and that he represented himself to have been born at North Fairfield, Vermont, the birthplace of a younger brother, Chester Abell Arthur, who was born in 1830, and died a year later. It is stated that in 1834 when another son was born he received the name of William Arthur, Jr., and then the name William was dropped by William Chester Alan Arthur, and he was henceforth known as Chester Alan Arthur. The records, copies of which are given, show that in 1845 Chester Alan Arthur entered Union College, stating his age to be 16.
Reeves dismisses Hinman's theory, while admitting that President Arthur lied about his age. He cites the Arthur family Bible, held at the Library of Congress, which gives the President's year of birth as 1829, and makes no mention of a child named "Chester Abell."2
http://www.genealogue.com/2005/06/our-canadian-president.html

GoodETxSG
22nd January 2013, 12:58
Would really like the name of this President that was born outside the USA...

OH, did his grand mother work for a state and take a SS# from a long dead person from the 1800's and dummy up a long form birth certificate too? Did he lie and say he was natural born here and lie about his religion and anything else it took to get elected (Could be all of them lie to get elected, then on to their own agenda).

Curious thread...

Flash
22nd January 2013, 13:00
Ok, I can't get the sublet of the whole news that was regarding the Canadian American President.

So I will repost the news, at minute 36:00, you will have forced 3 adds on you and then the snipet about the Canadian President of USA follows. It shows the proofs of it.

http://www.cbc.ca/thenational/watch/

GoodETxSG
22nd January 2013, 13:10
Having issues w/it... could be on my end, newly built LT w/new v of Fedora... if I could just have the "Canadian Americans" name I could pop it into my own research.. can someone provide the name? If true this could be used as a president for Obama if ever challenged (Yea right, as if) or put on trial. With all of the drone attacks that are against international law if he is in front of a judge it will be at the Hauge Courts..

This really is interesting...

panopticon
22nd January 2013, 13:30
Having issues w/it... could be on my end, newly built LT w/new v of Fedora... if I could just have the "Canadian Americans" name I could pop it into my own research.. can someone provide the name? If true this could be used as a president for Obama if ever challenged (Yea right, as if) or put on trial. With all of the drone attacks that are against international law if he is in front of a judge it will be at the Hauge Courts..

This really is interesting...

If you're after the name of the US President in the news program Flash reported in post #12 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54626-USA-incredible-reports-by-CBC-non-American-watch-this-fallen-dream&p=620583&viewfull=1#post620583) (in response to CurtisW) that it was Chester A. Arthur.
-- Pan