The Mysterious Anti-Scientific Agenda of Robert Schoch

[iceni tribe]

The Mysterious Anti-Scientific Agenda of Robert Schoch
Part 1 - The Bosnian Pyramid Complex
by Jock Doubleday Published January 14, 2013

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ODDLY, Associate Professor of Natural Sciences at the College of General Studies at Boston University, Robert M. Schoch, has publicly claimed (repeatedly, and still maintains) that the pyramid complex discovered in April 2005 by Dr. Semir Osmanagić (Americanized as "Osmanagich") in Visoko, Bosnia does not exist.
Yale-educated geologist and geophysicist Robert M. Schoch has maintained for over six years that hundreds of international volunteers working for the nonprofit organization Archaeological Park: Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun Foundation have colluded with its founder, Dr. Osmanagich, to fake excavation results and engage in scientific misconduct and scientific fraud.
Schoch's libel shifted briefly to slander in August 2012, in an ad-hoc interview with U.S.O.K.S.'s Anne Fairman in Urfa, Turkey. In the interview, Schoch spoke of the Bosnian pyramids as "21st century" pyramids, that is, as pyramids being created in modern times (not excavated) by Archaeological Park workers.
But let's go back to the beginning of Schoch's strange tango with anti-science in regard to the Bosnian pyramids complex.

Huge article here with many images and links

http://anamericaninbosnia.blogspot.nl/2013/01/the-mysterious-anti-scientific-agenda.html?m=1

[RMorgan]

Hi my friend,

This is somehow a controversy subject in the archaeological world.

My brother, who is an extreme serious and ethical archaeologist, is totally convinced that the so called "Bosnian Pyramids" are actually natural geologic formations as well. We had a long conversation about it a few months ago.

Anyway, you might be interested to read this PDF article, written by Dr. Smailbegovic, which is praised as a terrific and very serious scientist in your above posted article:

http://irna.lautre.net/IMG/pdf/Geo_Vis_Eng_806.pdf

I´ll quote the conclusion part:


It is evident that both Visocica and Pljesevica represent naturally occurring
hills created as a result of uplift, deformation and erosion of Neogene sediments
in Zenica-Sarajevo Basin. Their natural position and shape makes them ideal
areas for later fortifications and there are apparent elements of human activity
on/around them going back to the Neolitic times. It is doubtful that they represent
ancient colossal stone structures with a sacral purpose in mind, but rather apt
and inventive usage and reinforcement of existing (and dynamic)
geomorphologic characteristics to attain the maximum effect.

In other words; People built structures around/on the formations, to obtain strategical advantages for fortification and other purposes, but the "pyramids" themselves are natural formations.

Raf.

[iceni tribe]

thankyou RMorgan

i haven't been or know enough about the Bosnian Pyramids to come down on one side or the other but......

I myself have had dealings with Robert Schoch over Robert Temples analysis of a mysterious granite block in the sphinx temple, if you haven’t heard of Robert Temple here is a excellent narrated slide show of what could quite possibly be one of the greatest finds ever, we are talking about the location of the 4th dynasty pharaohs and even the famed hall of records.

http://www.egyptiandawn.info/multimedia.html

both slide shows should be watched together , viewing time 1 hour if you haven’t an hour here is the quick version.

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx171/naf09_2010/ancient%20monuments/PLATE-18.jpg

Here we see a image of the sphinx temple, notice the hole in the bedrock in the middle of the photo.

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here is another view of that "hole" what you are viewing is a 100 ton granite block that has been carted up from Aswan and sunk into the bedrock .
why ?
this piece of granite goes under the wall of the sphinx temple , so it was laid into the bedrock before the temple was constructed .

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx171/naf09_2010/ancient%20monuments/PLATE-19.jpg

And out the other side.

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx171/naf09_2010/ancient%20monuments/PLATE-22.jpg

This is a pulley guide that fits into the chase of that piece of granite.

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx171/naf09_2010/ancient%20monuments/PLATE-24b.jpg

And it was used for lowering large sarcophagus ( 40 to 60 tons) down into tombs or something else ?

The Sphinx temple was only uncovered from the sands this century 1936.

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx171/naf09_2010/ancient%20monuments/6-70.jpg

Which means whoever is buried at the end and under that piece of granite is very old, extremely important and it's still there.

After my initial spat with Schoch who immediately attacked Temples research , Schoch approached me a few days later and gave me his card and asked for me to send on this new information that Schoch had absolutely no knowledge of. That was 3 months ago and he hasn’t even had the courtesy to acknowledge my e mails.
Another titbit you should know about Robert Schoch is his new book Forgotten Civilisation which has over 150 pages of plagiarised work from David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill and in a one hour lecture he did ,half the people walked out as he was regurgitating Talbott's work but getting it all wrong by placing the sun instead of Saturn as the main theme.

http://www.electricuniversetheory.com/

Schoch has a army of supporters, speaks all over the world and has lived on the back of his weathering revelation of the walls at the sphinx temple for far too long IMHO and I pleased that this excellent article by Jock Doubleday has been written .

[RMorgan]

Hi again my friend,

I don´t know anything about Robert Schoch and, frankly, I never heard about him before.

I was just making an observation about the so called "Bosnian Pyramids". I was really fascinated about them (there´s a big thread about them here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4037-Bosnian-Valley-of-the-Pyramids-Worlds-Biggest-Pyramids)), but after talking to my brother and reading some other studies, I´m indeed 99% convinced that they are natural formations, not real pyramids.

People were very excited about the "Bosnian Pyramids", because they started digging around it and found a lot of fascinating human made structures, however, all the preliminary studies conducted on the formation themselves indicate that they are indeed natural.

The are hundreds of "natural pyramid" formations around the world, like this one, in Java:

http://throughthesandglass.typepad.com/.a/6a01053614d678970c0167628c1ddd970b-600wi

Raf.

[conk]

To paraphrase, true progress is made when the old school dies off.

[Latti]

Robert Schoch As I'm sure you are aware, acedemic professions are their own communities. They very often don't appreciate opinions of those outside their profession and may even attack others for their opinion or observations.

It's my opinion that peer review is for a good purpose, but it also often results in a "Heard" mentality. Not a heard that follows a leader, but one that only moves with majority opinion regardless of the evidence either for or against an issue.

Those that attempt to disagree with the heard may be ostracized and/or loose funding. Robert Schoch in the past has apposed the heard on the Sphinx; so, maybe now he is bending to the will of others. Notice that I used "maybe" because I honestly don't know, but I have respect for him because of prior positions that he has taken

[sigma6]

Schoch has a army of supporters, speaks all over the world and has lived on the back of his weathering revelation of the walls at the sphinx temple for far too long IMHO and I pleased that this excellent article by Jock Doubleday has been written .

this may be the final nail, but that article you reference ... it ain't therww no moe...

[Antimatter]

Personally, I just don't see any evidence there is a man-made pyramid in Bosnia. In all the time they have been excavating, no real objects have been documented...