Women to the Frontlines in Combat

[SilentFeathers]

Wow, this is a huge change....I wonder why this now and what brought it about? Would Panetta or any other critter in Washington want their wives or daughters on the frontline getting torn to shreds?

Regardless, this is quite controversial to say the least, and "strange timing".


Panetta opens combat roles to women

Senior defense officials say Pentagon chief Leon Panetta is removing the military's ban on women serving in combat, opening hundreds of thousands of front-line positions and potentially elite commando jobs after more than a decade at war.

The groundbreaking move recommended by the Joint Chiefs of Staff overturns a 1994 rule banning women from being assigned to smaller ground combat units. Panetta's decision gives the military services until January 2016 to seek special exceptions if they believe any positions must remain closed to women.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/23/panetta-opens-combat-roles-to-women/

Added:


This decision could open more than 230,000 jobs, many in Army and Marine infantry units, to women.

Now why would they do this? and why now? Sounds like they want the world to know our Military just increased their frontline capability.....

I really don't believe this has anything to do with "equal rights for women".....seems a bit more sinister to me.

[intruth]

More cannon fodder is my guess. Haven't seen the recruiting stats lately.

[SilentFeathers]

More cannon fodder is my guess. Haven't seen the recruiting stats lately.

I personally do not see any reason for them to do this....except for the need for more soldiers in a HUGE invasion or defensive line, etc.

[NancyV]

Sounds like the same sort of political agenda as getting rid of "don't ask, don't tell" for gays in the military is for this administration. There is no way to legislate getting rid of homophobia and you can't make women the same as men. They seem determined to make everyone "equal" and of course that is an impossibility. I like being different from men and I sure as hell don't want to be "equal".

Women are not generally as strong as men, don't have as much endurance also don't normally make decisions the same way or as quickly. We think very differently than men. There is also NO way they are going to get rid of the aspect of sexual distractions and involvements between men and women in close quarters or men's natural instinct to protect women more than protecting other men. That distraction can, has already and will in the future have severe consequences.

My opinion is that women in combat, unless they are in ALL women units, is a very stupid, purely politically motivated move and won't work well at all. My ex-military husband's reasons for thinking it's stupid are much simpler than mine. He says what many soldiers like to say: "you can't trust anyone who bleeds for 1 week a month and doesn't die".

[SilentFeathers]

Sounds like the same sort of political agenda as getting rid of "don't ask, don't tell" for gays in the military is for this administration. There is no way to legislate getting rid of homophobia and you can't make women the same as men. They seem determined to make everyone "equal" and of course that is an impossibility. I like being different from men and I sure as hell don't want to be "equal".

Women are not generally as strong as men, don't have as much endurance also don't normally make decisions the same way or as quickly. We think very differently than men. There is also NO way they are going to get rid of the aspect of sexual distractions and involvements between men and women in close quarters or men's natural instinct to protect women more than protecting other men. That distraction can, has already and will in the future have severe consequences.

My opinion is that women in combat, unless they are in ALL women units, is a very stupid, purely politically motivated move and won't work well at all. My ex-military husband's reasons for thinking it's stupid are much simpler than mine. He says what many soldiers like to say: "you can't trust anyone who bleeds for 1 week a month and doesn't die".

Hi Nancy, I agree this is quite the unwise decision, but they don't care how many people die because of it.

[Arrowwind]

I would hope that any women doing combat would be there by choice and able to meet strick physical criteria.

I asked my husband if he though he could be on the front lines with me. He got a panic look.

The idea is absurd in general.. but there are some bulldozer women out there. They should be challenged if they want it. To me its just more opportunity for military rape incidents.

Forcing a man to act at a level of humanity he has not yet evolved to cant be done and there are obvioulsy a few of those needing such evolution in the military. There will be problems, and women are not beyond using their sexual identity directed at men for gains either. The battlefield is not place for these kinds of struggles.

[SilentFeathers]

I would hope that any women doing combat would be there by choice and able to meet strick physical criteria.



I doubt if there will an "opt out option" box on their orders when told to go to the front line.....kind'a defeats the purpose of lifting the ban IMO.

[Spiral]

This is just horrible, it really is.

I am not being sexist (wotever that is) but its very destructive to the very core of society. (think about it)

I know the Russians had some fantastic women squadrons that attacked Nazi tanks etc from the air in WW2, but they lost 40 million and had to fight however they could.

I'm sorry but I wouldn't want a woman beside me in a fox hole, why do they keep the sexes apart in sport ?

We are wired differently, its just the way it is.

Thats mentally as well as physically, you you think men get PTSD, just wait till women see front line service.

[another bob]

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Air Force recorded an "appalling" number of reports of sexual assault last year even as it worked to curb misconduct in the wake of a sex scandal at its training headquarters in Texas, the service's top officer told lawmakers on Wednesday.

Gen. Mark Welsh, the Air Force chief of staff, said there were 796 reports of cases ranging from inappropriate touching to rape. The 2012 figure is a nearly 30 percent increase from 2011 when 614 cases were reported. The number could be much greater, Welsh said, because many cases are never reported at all.

"Calling these numbers unacceptable does not do the victims justice," Welsh said. "The truth is, these numbers are appalling!"

Welsh's testimony before the House Armed Services Committee underscores the challenges it and the other military branches face in stopping sexual assault within the ranks. Even more disturbing than the number of reports of sexual assault is the fact that most of these crimes are committed by fellow airmen, Welsh said.

The scandal at Lackland Air Force Base near San Antonio continues to unfold nearly two years after the first victim came forward. All U.S. airmen report to Lackland for basic training. The base has about 500 military training instructors for about 35,000 airmen who graduate every year. While one in five recruits are women, most instructors are men.

The preliminary results of Air Force investigation released in November described abuses of power by bad instructors who took advantage of a weak oversight system to prey on young recruits.

The investigation, which is ongoing, has found so far that 32 military training instructors allegedly engaged in inappropriate or coercive sexual relationships with 59 recruits and airmen at Lackland, according to the Air Force. Six instructors have been convicted in court martials on charges ranging from adultery, rape and conducting unprofessional relationships. Another nine instructors are awaiting courts martial. Two more received non-judicial punishments. There are 15 instructors still under investigation.

The Air Force has changed the way it selects officers and instructors who train new recruits and created a special unit of lawyers and investigators to assist victims of sexual assault.

Welsh said he has stressed to the Air Force's officer corps and senior enlisted ranks the importance of eliminating sexual misconduct from the ranks. As part of that effort, Welsh issued a "Letter to Airmen" earlier this month that said images, songs and stories that are obscene or vulgar are not part of the Air Force heritage.

An Air Force veteran who pressed Congress to hold hearings on the misconduct at Lackland said there is a sexual assault epidemic in the military. Jennifer Norris said she medically retired in 2010 and was sexually assaulted while serving in the Air Force but not at Lackland. She told the committee she frequently has seen well-intentioned reforms fall short.

Fundamental reforms are needed "to change a military culture and fix the broken military justice system," said Norris, who serves as an advocacy board member of the group Protect Our Defenders.

http://news.yahoo.com/air-force-calls-number-sex-assaults-appalling-150039203--politics.html

[humanalien]

Wow, this is a huge change....I wonder why this now and what brought it about? Would Panetta or any other critter in Washington want their wives or daughters on the frontline getting torn to shreds?

Regardless, this is quite controversial to say the least, and "strange timing".


Panetta opens combat roles to women

Senior defense officials say Pentagon chief Leon Panetta is removing the military's ban on women serving in combat, opening hundreds of thousands of front-line positions and potentially elite commando jobs after more than a decade at war.

The groundbreaking move recommended by the Joint Chiefs of Staff overturns a 1994 rule banning women from being assigned to smaller ground combat units. Panetta's decision gives the military services until January 2016 to seek special exceptions if they believe any positions must remain closed to women.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/23/panetta-opens-combat-roles-to-women/

Added:


This decision could open more than 230,000 jobs, many in Army and Marine infantry units, to women.

Now why would they do this? and why now? Sounds like they want the world to know our Military just increased their frontline capability.....

I really don't believe this has anything to do with "equal rights for women".....seems a bit more sinister to me.

I hope the women aren't shy or modest. Men and women
share the showers in the military now days.

[shadowstalker]

For the past 100 years slow but sure:TBTB State in not so many words...

So America we have down graded your education from k-12
We have financially exploited your Collage and University education, and down graded knowledge within. No wisdom for you.
We have Poissond your air/water/food and medication.
We Have manipulated your minds with TV/Radio/Books..

Well America for now there is nothing left for you, except for one thing..... The Military

Yes the Military where everyone over the the tender age of 18 is free to serve his/her country, where one can freely abuse there own personal aggressions (or the ones we jab into you) upon another human being.
Travel to any country you wish (so long as you can pass our tests)
Reach the rank of Captain(provided you lick our boots)with in a few short years.

And If you join now (so long as you don't read the small print)we will provide for your future,
Free Collage education (to which will get you no where)
Free Health Care (just don't say your sickness BE IT PHYSICAL OR MENTAL came from war)
Housing(providing you don't go nuts)

Everything will be provided to you provided you give up your Constitutional Rights. During your Military Stay and after.

[Ellisa]

If women want to be in the Army why should they not be able to fight in the frontline? That is what a soldier does, and if they are unable to access all aspects of the military experience, women will not be able to advance through promotion to all aspects of high command roles.

As for the sexual harassment problems etc. Perhaps when there are many women in the Army, and they are less of a novelty, there will not be the need for them to be fearful of such things. After all, homosexual soldiers are not restricted in their progress through the promotion pathways in the military any more, are they?

[Arrowwind]

I would hope that any women doing combat would be there by choice and able to meet strick physical criteria.



I doubt if there will an "opt out option" box on their orders when told to go to the front line.....kind'a defeats the purpose of lifting the ban IMO.

I would suspect that lack of an opt out option would keep many women from entering the military as they know they are not phsycially capable to keep up, where on the other hand they are fully capable for less physically demanding jobs that are essential to the mission. I had two women friends join the military and they discussed this quite a bit before they went in and they wanted a pretty good understanding of what physical work would be required from them. They knew their limitations.

[Arrowwind]

For the past 100 years slow but sure:TBTB State in not so many words...

So America we have down graded your education from k-12
We have financially exploited your Collage and University education, and down graded knowledge within. No wisdom for you.
We have Poissond your air/water/food and medication.
We Have manipulated your minds with TV/Radio/Books..

Well America for now there is nothing left for you, except for one thing..... The Military

Yes the Military where everyone over the the tender age of 18 is free to serve his/her country, where one can freely abuse there own personal aggressions (or the ones we jab into you) upon another human being.
Travel to any country you wish (so long as you can pass our tests)
Reach the rank of Captain(provided you lick our boots)with in a few short years.

And If you join now (so long as you don't read the small print)we will provide for your future,
Free Collage education (to which will get you no where)
Free Health Care (just don't say your sickness BE IT PHYSICAL OR MENTAL came from war)
Housing(providing you don't go nuts)

Everything will be provided to you provided you give up your Constitutional Rights. During your Military Stay and after.

Yep, thats pretty much the gist of it for a lot of kids.
but actually they do a fair job on the medical side as long as you are willing to take drugs and subscribe to their health philosophies. My husband gets VA medical benefits. So far I haven't let him do a dam thing they have recommended but on the other hand my neighbor got some very expensive spinal surguries that really helped him a lot.

They are still doing experimental vaccinations on the military. Its very sad. Some will suffer for ever from it.


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[I hope the women aren't shy or modest. Men and women
share the showers in the military now days.

thats terrible!

[NancyV]

Ex-SEAL Zinke: 'Nearly Certain' Women in Combat Will Cost Lives
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/zinke-women-combat-panetta/2013/01/23/id/472695
Wednesday, 23 Jan 2013 07:19 PM
By David A. Patten

Former Navy SEAL commander and Montana State Sen. Ryan Zinke reacted sharply Wednesday to news the Obama administration will drop the prohibition against women serving in military combat roles, warning it is “nearly certain” to cost lives.

A Republican who served in the elite SEAL Team Six, Zinke cautioned that introducing male-female dynamics on the front lines “has the potential to degrade our combat readiness.”

“I know there are some women who can do the physical training,” Zinke told Newsmax in an exclusive interview. “When I was a SEAL instructor, the Olympic training center is in San Diego, and I watched some Olympic-caliber women athletes run through the obstacle course better than certainly many of the SEAL candidates could do.

“These were quality athletes. So physically, I think there are some women who can do it. But the issue is what are the unintended consequences? This is not a Demi Moore movie.

“In my opinion we’re not ready,” he said. “This is not a Hollywood movie. This has real consequences that are going to affect our sons and daughters whose lives are on the line. I think you need to go very, very carefully when it comes to the defense of our country.”

Sources say outgoing Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta will announce his decision Thursday to allow female soldiers to participate in combat roles beginning later this year. Special units such as the SEALS, and the Army’s Delta Force, will have until 2016 to demonstrate why they should qualify for an exemption.

Zinke, who served in the SEALS from 1985 to 2008, said the administration’s order should be carefully reviewed.
During his time in the military, he said, he encountered “women operatives that were very, very good.”

The problem comes with unilaterally lifting the combat restriction across the board, he said.

“I think it’s going to have women wanting to be the first SEAL for the purpose of being the first SEAL,” he said. “The evolution of man, I think, is slower than the cultural evolution. And I think there will be unintentional consequences when it’s lifted across the board.”

Zinke also suggested that the decision does not appear to reflect a real-world understanding of combat.

“The hard truth of combat oftentimes is brutal,” he said. “It involves face-to-face, hand-to-hand, close-quarter battle. And I think we forget that. We’ve become so sensitized that warfare is wrapped up in a two-hour movie featuring stars who always live. And that’s not how it really is.”

The former Navy SEAL launched the Special Operations for America PAC during the height of last year’s presidential campaign. He said the decision to open up combat roles for women should have followed “a longer national discussion than a simple executive order.”

“I’m disappointed that it was taken lightly, and obviously it was,” he said.

Zinke also addressed concerns that mixing men and women on the front lines could impair unit morale and effectiveness.

“Let’s face it, it’s physically demanding, and distractions result in death,” he told Newsmax. “We’re not talking about mature men such as Panetta. We’re talking about 20-year-olds away from their families, close-quarters, out in the field. Relationships are going to happen, as they happen today on our naval vessels.”

His conclusion: “I think it is hasty and will result in unintended consequences that will lead unfortunately to a loss of life.”

Zinke added: “I believe that is nearly certain.”

[Ellisa]

Quoting Zinke:

His conclusion: “I think it is hasty and will result in unintended consequences that will lead unfortunately to a loss of life.”

Zinke added: “I believe that is nearly certain.”


Presumably the loss of life when it is 'just' men is somehow less upsetting than it would be if the soldier were to be a woman. If you think about it that is very patronising indeed. A soldier who dies serving their country deserves the same respect regardless of gender.

[norman]

"Women to the Frontlines in Combat"


A subliminal response to all those recent images of women standing in nature earnestly holding a rifle to defend theirs and everyone's freedom.

[TigaHawk]

I thought the reason they did not want women on the front lines is becuase if they are not locked at home popping out babies like a production line the country would eventualy loose because it runs out of soldiers to send to their deaths.

It would be a good way to lower and change the population, in regards to how many people are actualy reproducing and what kind of people are reproducing (any women whom had what it takes to be a soldier and kill, would be killed on the battlefield, and unable to have future generation of kids that would also have the same kind of personality... . probably explained quite poorly but i am sure you understand what i mean right??)

All done in a way which premotes "equal rights" and "empowerment" to the women.

lovely plan indeed. :|

[9eagle9]

To get rid of mouthy women like NancyV.

I'm only partially joking.

Think about it.

I think hubs is right. There is something altogether omnipotently threatening about a creature that bleeds for a week and doesn't die. Better to rid the world of such a scourge than have them running it....

Again I'm only partially joking.


Sounds like the same sort of political agenda as getting rid of "don't ask, don't tell" for gays in the military is for this administration. There is no way to legislate getting rid of homophobia and you can't make women the same as men. They seem determined to make everyone "equal" and of course that is an impossibility. I like being different from men and I sure as hell don't want to be "equal".

Women are not generally as strong as men, don't have as much endurance also don't normally make decisions the same way or as quickly. We think very differently than men. There is also NO way they are going to get rid of the aspect of sexual distractions and involvements between men and women in close quarters or men's natural instinct to protect women more than protecting other men. That distraction can, has already and will in the future have severe consequences.

My opinion is that women in combat, unless they are in ALL women units, is a very stupid, purely politically motivated move and won't work well at all. My ex-military husband's reasons for thinking it's stupid are much simpler than mine. He says what many soldiers like to say: "you can't trust anyone who bleeds for 1 week a month and doesn't die".

[mosquito]

This will, of course be heralded as an advance for "women's rights", as it appears at least one poster here already believes.

Question. What do you think is likely to happen to female soldiers who are captured ?

[norman]

.............Question. What do you think is likely to happen to female soldiers who are captured ?...........


We'll hear a lot more about the suicide pill......

[9eagle9]

Issued a love gun against their will?

Depends on how 'tuff enough' they are I suppose. Death before dishonor may be some women's motto. Or ....

Ma and PA USA could use the rape and torture of find outstanding women soldiers as a great propaganda tool. Hell they wouldn't even have to be put on the front lines to be taken and raped. How we civilians know the difference.

Meaning these tough combat gals that eat steel and spit bullets would suddenly be Scarlette O'Hara'ed the moment the US found a good line of propaganda to twist American Heartstrings. They'd not show the women in question decked out in their survival gear doing what they do best, they'd show them in a frilly white dress surrounded by children.

Not sure if anyone remembers the kerfluffle about women being in Westpoint and being allowed to fly Stealth Aircraft. Women demanded and screamed to have equal opportunity, then summarily attempted to sue the military for not being treated like women or being assigned tasks that they 'SUDDENLY" realized were beyond their physical and mental abilities.

Women who screamed to get into Westpoint locker rooms with a bunch of smelly, vulgar mouthed men telling locker room stories and then protesting when the men didn't behave anyway other than the way they were accustomed to behaving.




This will, of course be heralded as an advance for "women's rights", as it appears at least one poster here already believes.

Question. What do you think is likely to happen to female soldiers who are captured ?

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Maybe even the return of the good old steel bladed guillotine chastity belt.

The 'return' of the beheading.







.............Question. What do you think is likely to happen to female soldiers who are captured ?...........


We'll hear a lot more about the suicide pill......

[Rocky_Shorz]

More cannon fodder is my guess. Haven't seen the recruiting stats lately.

I personally do not see any reason for them to do this....except for the need for more soldiers in a HUGE invasion or defensive line, etc.

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[Nanoo Nanoo]

If women want to be in the Army why should they not be able to fight in the frontline? That is what a soldier does, and if they are unable to access all aspects of the military experience, women will not be able to advance through promotion to all aspects of high command roles.

As for the sexual harassment problems etc. Perhaps when there are many women in the Army, and they are less of a novelty, there will not be the need for them to be fearful of such things. After all, homosexual soldiers are not restricted in their progress through the promotion pathways in the military any more, are they?

I agree , hear hear !

My worry is that they will use the Womens Movement to push equal rights so that women can also sacrifice their lives in battle as 10s of millions of men have in the past to protect our women and children. hmmm

it seems to me they wanted to tax more people in the 50s so they started a womens movement ? this in turn gave them the taxes from half the population to all the population. Now they would love to reduce the population so lets put our women on the front line.. hmmm

.. we can we see where this is leading...

hmm

tisk tisk

men should hunt and gather, women should tend to the home. end of story

Naniu


Naniu

[Nanoo Nanoo]

More cannon fodder is my guess. Haven't seen the recruiting stats lately.

I personally do not see any reason for them to do this....except for the need for more soldiers in a HUGE invasion or defensive line, etc.

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http://www.vixenontheloose.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/I-DO-NOT-HAVE-PMS.jpg

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http://www.mileanhour.com/files/2011/2/image9.png

so they should plan air and land assults on the cycle ?

N ; 0 )

[Chuck]

men should hunt and gather, women should tend to the home. end of story




Good thing... if there was ever a force made up of mothers only...defending their children... I reckon they would have conquered the world by now.

[SilentFeathers]

Issued a love gun against their will?

Depends on how 'tuff enough' they are I suppose. Death before dishonor may be some women's motto. Or ....

Ma and PA USA could use the rape and torture of find outstanding women soldiers as a great propaganda tool. Hell they wouldn't even have to be put on the front lines to be taken and raped. How we civilians know the difference.

Meaning these tough combat gals that eat steel and spit bullets would suddenly be Scarlette O'Hara'ed the moment the US found a good line of propaganda to twist American Heartstrings. They'd not show the women in question decked out in their survival gear doing what they do best, they'd show them in a frilly white dress surrounded by children.

Not sure if anyone remembers the kerfluffle about women being in Westpoint and being allowed to fly Stealth Aircraft. Women demanded and screamed to have equal opportunity, then summarily attempted to sue the military for not being treated like women or being assigned tasks that they 'SUDDENLY" realized were beyond their physical and mental abilities.

Women who screamed to get into Westpoint locker rooms with a bunch of smelly, vulgar mouthed men telling locker room stories and then protesting when the men didn't behave anyway other than the way they were accustomed to behaving.




This will, of course be heralded as an advance for "women's rights", as it appears at least one poster here already believes.

Question. What do you think is likely to happen to female soldiers who are captured ?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Maybe even the return of the good old steel bladed guillotine chastity belt.

The 'return' of the beheading.







.............Question. What do you think is likely to happen to female soldiers who are captured ?...........


We'll hear a lot more about the suicide pill......

I think you are spot on about how the propaganda machine will tug and pull on the heartstrings when women soldiers get captured and raped and or killed.....it'll probably be more effective than ramming two jets in to buildings to rally support for a war or responsive military action.

We all know how sharia radicals treat their own women, just think what they would do to a female infidel?????

I doubt very much the pentagon was thinking about equal rights for women lifting this ban.....

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Dirty ways to get our future mums out of the way, excellent method of birth control, get them killed before they have kids, nice and permanent solution too, ptsd mums in case they survive get lots of kids that will be taken away by the state, wonder what they will be used for, dirty tactics to create as many depleted uranium munition cancer cases too, its ok to fight their wars, surviving them and knowing how to shoot is a whole different matter in their opinion i can imagine.

Ow sorry, too cynical??

:(

[Arrowwind]

This will, of course be heralded as an advance for "women's rights", as it appears at least one poster here already believes.

Question. What do you think is likely to happen to female soldiers who are captured ?

The worst. The absolutle worst.
We have abu ghraib behind us now... expect a match.
I'll be waiting for the photos to be coming out.

[hardrock]

As an American and a husband and a father, this is just embarrassing. I may be old fashioned, but this just shows how low our culture has stooped. It is further disintegration of the natural order of human civilization. I really don't see how you can argue the long term effects of this. It's bad in every way. Every man in America should be embarrassed that you're little girls are out there fighting while you sit and watch. Not that we should even be in a military exercise to begin with! This world is so screwed up!

[SilentFeathers]

As an American and a husband and a father, this is just embarrassing. I may be old fashioned, but this just shows how low our culture has stooped. It is further disintegration of the natural order of human civilization. I really don't see how you can argue the long term effects of this. It's bad in every way. Every man in America should be embarrassed that you're little girls are out there fighting while you sit and watch. Not that we should even be in a military exercise to begin with! This world is so screwed up!

I agree, quite unnecessary to say the least.....but it is part of the psyops like gay rights/marriage, gun control, racists remarks coming from Washington etc, paying your fair share in taxes, etc etc., and now women on the front line....

Another topic the operators know we will bicker over and be divided on. They know how to keep us busy and distracted, that's for sure.

Regardless, this is a huge development, look how they spun the Jessica Lynch thing.....imagine what will happen in 1 ambush when a dozen or so women get slaughtered, some taken captive and raped and tortured etc etc etc. There will be hell to pay!!!!!! especially after CNN plasters pics of these women covered in blood being dragged through the streets dead!

ADD: My guess is that they are already planning on blaming a radical Iranian group for this ambush and it hasn't even happened yet!

[Fred Steeves]

Of course the truth is always different at every level, but I have the sneaking suspicion one of those obvious levels is for the American public's further desensitization to the elite's death cult mentality. The sooner we become comfortable with the thought of our women getting blown to pieces, and coming home in body bags as well, the better. All for the glory of national "defense" and "security" of course.

[Peace of Mind]

Sounds like bait to me, just something to cleverly coerce the people into supporting their wars. It’s a slick indirect promotional ploy. The wars need to end; they are unjust and greed driven. These war mongers will use any gimmick to get people to do their bidding, they threw out this trickery in hopes to stir up more patriotism, blind support has always kept the military in action. I guess your children weren't good enough so now they want the child makers. I don't see anything in todays wars worth the price of life, from what I see we war because of personal indifferences amongst our elected leaders (not the people of the world). People are killing each other over stupidity, greed, and misguided trust.

Peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

it could be to bring fighting DNA together for the next generation...

if you noticed in Modern wars, there aren't many casualties, it is mostly dealing with upset populations which women aren't feared as much as men.

so I can see the psychology behind it, but agree with Nanoo, no 10 years wars, just a weekend of berzerking to conquer enemies to dust...

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[13th Warrior]

It surely couldn't be as simple as that they need as many front line soldiers as they can get?

[Etherios]

tbh i think we need to remember about all the poisons that the front line soldiers are getting ... DU / Chemicals / vaccine tests what ever.

Females maybe are needed for those kind of tests. So far we only had males with Golf syndrome etc ... now we will have females also...

And ofc this will be for their "freedom" and rights ... the great powerful feminism movement ... 3 cheers for them ... not.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

men should hunt and gather, women should tend to the home. end of story




Good thing... if there was ever a force made up of mothers only...defending their children... I reckon they would have conquered the world by now.

I think it would be a most un kind slaughter ...

[Flash]

More cannon fodder is my guess. Haven't seen the recruiting stats lately.

I personally do not see any reason for them to do this....except for the need for more soldiers in a HUGE invasion or defensive line, etc.

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Well, women have been on the front line since 1988 in the Canadian army. Although the Canadian army is moslty an army or professionnals (all kind of skills, not much flesh only for bullet taking), what some of these women told me is that it is pretty tough. They are usually not much protected by guys (no, guys won't let down other men in order to protect a woman, not anymore) as in corporations by the way, and yes there is harassment. So it is pretty tough. But yes, they are quite capable of doing the job, since much of it relies on technologies now. When capture, they are in very dire situations, mostly in Muslim countries where a military woman is considered below a dog.

Now, for the Jokes above, I was thinking this:

Just before their period, they clean everything and organised the whole group for the campaign
During the periods they kill everyone in sight.
After the periods they come back with wins all around.

So men, you do not have understood yet: prepare your campaigns based on her cycles.

[markpierre]

This is an extraordinarily stupid issue. No one should be on any front line.

But you might ask all the women (and children) who have a 'front line' in their front yard.

[lake]

You have two types of inhabitants on this planet.
One type is emotional, feels guilt, is compassionate, is empathic of others and has an inquisitive nature.
The other is unemotional, bereft of guilt, has no compassion, feels no empathy and is only of the self.

SHOCK!!

There are two completely alien, to each other, species living on this Earth, which look the same!

4% of beings here have a particular genetic code which is switched to off.
96% have this same code switched on.
Demons and Angels!

This explains ALL things in this place (regarding the interaction of humans and everything else).

We all have asked the same questions regarding different subjects:
How can this be allowed?
That can't be true, no one would do that?
etc etc.

If you have even a very small percentage of beings which feel no guilt or compassion, then these beings will walk over all others and become the dominate force.
And the others wouldn’t even know why this happened as they only consider others to be of their nature.

Create fear in all the other type of beings, to control them, whilst your own cannot feel it!

It is a perfect situation as no one in any type of power/control would have gained that position by being nice.
Its also not against the “law” to be a psychopath? How strange is that????
To have no guilt or compassion is “OK” within our current system???

Even 4% of women are psychopaths, so why wouldn't they want to kill others, as per their new given role in the forces, to further their self?

Fun place, not.

[lake]

You do know that "its important to keep the blood line" and that 4% equals approx 280 million beings who have NO GUILT OR COMPASSION including women!

[Calz]

Horrifying for women to go to war.

Horrifying for men to go to war.

... for what was it again???

coffers yes of course ...


how to deal ... attack or laugh ... your choice ...


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[lake]

Horrifying for women to go to war.

Horrifying for men to go to war.


This is the point, for some it is Not Horrifying!
And they are not of you.

[Rocky_Shorz]

two of the most powerful armies in the Middle east have always had women fighting beside the men. Israel and Kurdistan

my only fear is this buildup is to prepare for an invasion of Iran...

1/3 of Israel was not allowed to vote in this election, it was the only way to keep the NeoCon agenda moving forward.

the hope for this world's future is in the children that don't understand blind hate...

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[Dennis Leahy]

You may think of "The Onion" as comedy, but most of it is scathing satire. This article fits in this thread very well:


WASHINGTON—Female veterans and feminist activist groups are commending the Pentagon this week following a watershed policy change that will lift the ban on women in combat roles, rendering the battlefield an equal-opportunity death zone. “The U.S. Armed Forces have been gender-neutral in their victims for years, and now they’re finally leveling the killing field for female combatants as well,” said Nadine Hynes, a retired Marine Corps Lance Corporal who was unable to add to the carnage of Iraq’s blood-soaked, limb-strewn slaughterscapes due to the Pentagon’s 1994 rule barring women from infantry and artillery roles. “Now, women will have the same opportunity to accidentally gun down innocent civilians or be ripped apart by insurgent rocket fire as men.” At press time, servicewomen were celebrating the likelihood of additional policy gains that would include the right to return from service equally haunted by their ordeals, and the right to face just as many hurdles to proper mental health care as their fellow servicemen.



U.S. Military Lauded For Creating Gender-Neutral Killing Field (http://www.theonion.com/articles/us-military-lauded-for-creating-genderneutral-kill,31015/)

Source: http://www.theonion.com/articles/us-military-lauded-for-creating-genderneutral-kill,31015/

Dennis

[Calz]

two of the most powerful armies in the Middle east have always had women fighting beside the men. Israel and Kurdistan



To be honest ... when I started to post to this thread my intent was to bring into focus the women in the Israeli army ... rumored to be among the most feared in the world.

Rumors ... eh ... what are you going to do???

Dunno ... I am not there ... but I would not be betting against it.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Horrifying for women to go to war.

Horrifying for men to go to war.


This is the point, for some it is Not Horrifying!
And they are not of you.

even though I was able to perform a psychic exorcisms on Cheney, I couldn't hear him until his change of heart...

which leads me to believe psychic abilities are related to the heart, not the mind.

and the switch you talk about is related to this function.

Is it possible knowing where it is positioned, can a healing be performed to turn their feelings back on?

I'm waiting to find the next noticed in public to find out...

did anyone feel a chill seeing the picture of the Texas killer of his own family?

Spiritual beings are capable of recognizing them at first glance.

are we meant to unlock their hearts? to turn the switch of compassion back on?

is it possible MK understands this and are capable of shutting off feelings in the ones performing these tragic events?

what happens when they have access to a National mental health database?

a couple clicks to find their soldiers in any part of the country...

¤=[Post Update]=¤

I have Skype shut off and it's calling me right now... weird

just a coincidence in timing?

[lake]

Horrifying for women to go to war.

Horrifying for men to go to war.


This is the point, for some it is Not Horrifying!
And they are not of you.

even though I was able to perform a psychic exorcisms on Cheney, I couldn't hear him until his change of heart...

which leads me to believe psychic abilities are related to the heart, not the mind.

and the switch you talk about is related to this function.

Is it possible knowing where it is positioned, can a healing be performed to turn their feelings back on?

I'm waiting to find the next noticed in public to find out...

did anyone feel a chill seeing the picture of the Texas killer of his own family?

Spiritual beings are capable of recognizing them at first glance.

are we meant to unlock their hearts? to turn the switch of compassion back on?

is it possible MK understands this and are capable of shutting off feelings in the ones performing these tragic events?

what happens when they have access to a National mental health database?

a couple clicks to find their soldiers in any part of the country...

¤=[Post Update]=¤

I have Skype shut off and it's calling me right now... weird

just a coincidence in timing?

The heart controls the magnetic resonance field around the physical form you have domain of at this point. This field is of an interlocking nature between the physical form and the Earth as you have knowledge of such.
The two are in a compatible frequency which allows "life" as you understand it.
Any fields of resonance which inhibit your form's connectivity to this planet will incur a substantial cost to that which you are, even to a remembrance of a single use of form in a circular point of being.

The "switch" is not to be "turned on" , it is a choice for your own determination.

You, your kind, are "at war"!

While you can project your "understanding" into another's form, should you do this?
Have you the right to interject into another's path?
Are you their concept of god or are you of a domain which wills no other self aspect?

There was a lot of chat regarding DNA upgrades, maybe this was not for your like but was for theirs? Imagine that, a world which only has forms that have compassion and feel a need to do "right"?
All other forms of life here are lead by the dominate physical form, which is called "human". What would occur if "humans" did not kill?

How do kind loving forms compete against psychopaths?

The same way you would deal with a scared dog which bites out.

Identify it as having a different nature which is unable to interact with others in a manner where others are more important than the self.
Confine it to a place of safety.
Give lots of love.
You would not allow interaction with others at all.

Then shoot it.

[Rocky_Shorz]

when the insights and knowledge of the Middle East Kings passed down to me, it turned something on, I already had psychic abilities and was crossing through my dreams into Nirvana/Heaven...

but when the insights hit, it was overwhelming, an almost vertigo from the energy level increase...

It has been with me ever since.

Have to admit, I didn't expect that response from the image you project with you Avatar...

[Kindred]

Wow, this is a huge change....I wonder why this now and what brought it about?
......(snip)
I really don't believe this has anything to do with "equal rights for women".....seems a bit more sinister to me.

(TPTB - Keep 'em looking Outward and Distracted, Concentrating on what We say and do... or don't do - keep 'em gabbing amongst themselves, heading in every direction and No Direction - Always)

Seems to be working... Yes?

In Unity, Peace and Love

[SilentFeathers]

Wow, this is a huge change....I wonder why this now and what brought it about?
......(snip)
I really don't believe this has anything to do with "equal rights for women".....seems a bit more sinister to me.

(TPTB - Keep 'em looking Outward and Distracted, Concentrating on what We say and do... or don't do - keep 'em gabbing amongst themselves, heading in every direction and No Direction - Always)

Seems to be working... Yes?

In Unity, Peace and Love

Yeah, they know what their doing that's for sure....we're catching on a bit though :)

[sigma6]

This decision could open more than 230,000 jobs, many in Army and Marine infantry units, to women.

simple math, this is considered "job creation"... a gift of 'opportunity' to the masses... by your 'Roman' Masters... throw some women in the cages... a distraction... a desperate measure... the continued implementation (tip toe totalitarianism) toward lowering the standard of value of spiritual principles... the last world wars left several countries with more women then men... didn't help the population equation... in any event it will be used to great psychological advantage by them, I have no doubt

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Wish You Were Here (Pink Floyd)

So, so you think you can tell
Heaven from Hell
Blue skies from pain
Can you tell a green field
From a cold steel rail
A smile from a veil
Do you think you can tell

And did they get you to trade
Your heroes for ghosts
Hot ashes for trees
Hot air for a cool breeze
Cold comfort for change
And did you exchange
A walk on part in the war
For a lead role in a cage

How I wish, how I wish you were here.
We're just two lost souls
Swimming in a fish bowl,
Year after year,
Running over the same old ground.
What have we found?
The same old fears.
Wish you were here.


How they play to our sense of devotion, and self sacrifice...
The Roman Origin of Christianity... Roman satire...
http://www.thenewsturmer.com/downloading/roman1_2.pdf