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Cidersomerset
26th January 2013, 00:16
Another surveylance story !


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Published on 25 Jan 2013


Here at RT America we have reported on how the US government and select law
enforcement agencies are using the technology known as "Stingray" to track suspected
terrorists every move, but according to reports, the Los Angeles Police Department is
using the technology to not only fight terrorism but to crackdown on daily crime. RT's
Ramon Galindo explores the possible violations of privacy rights.

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Government
Is Warrantless Tracking of Cell Tower Data Unconstitutional?

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Cellphone-Tower.jpg


Earlier this year, the Supreme Court ruled in a precedent-setting case that using a GPS
tracking device on a vehicle without a warrant constituted a search and therefore
violated the Fourth Amendment. Now, the same defendant is seeking to have a similar
precedent set for warrantless tracking of cellphone data based on cell tower location.

In January, the Supreme Court ruled unanimously in the United States v. Antoine Jones
that use of a GPS device required a warrant, although the reasoning among the justices
differed. At the time, the Blaze spoke with Greg Nojeim, director of the Center for
Democracy and Technology’s project on freedom, security and technology, who said he
believed this ruling opened the door for discussion on warrantless cellphone tracking as
well — and it has. Wired reports on Friday in a pre-trail of a retrial for Jones, defense
attorney Eduardo Balarezo said the government is seeking to use cellphone tracking as
a replacement for what it can’t do now with GPS tracking. Balrezo said:

The government has produced material obtained through court orders for the relevant
cellular telephone numbers. Upon information and belief, now that the illegally obtained
GPS data cannot be used as evidence in this case, the government will seek to
introduce cell site data in its place in an attempt to demonstrate Mr. Jones’ movements
and whereabouts during relevant times. Mr. Jones submits that the government
obtained the cell site data in violation of the Fourth Amendment to the United States
Constitution and therefore it must be suppressed.


http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Cellphone-triangulation_IntoMobile.com_.jpg


Earlier this year, Vice President of Public Policy for the CDT Jim Dempsey explained how
cellphone tower tracking worked, saying that cell companies collect information about
every seven seconds from the cell tower you’re connecting to. This information
therefore pins a location pretty close to where you are. It’s not as accurate as GPS
tracking but relatively close. Dempsey also explained how cell towers could potentially
become even more pervasive:


Imagine you had poor cell service in your house, Dempsey said providing an example.
You could essentially get a tower put in your house; almost every floor of office
buildings have their own cell tower now for good service. Now you have a precise
location of inside your home, Dempsey said, where you and anyone who visits you and
uses their cellphone can be picked up as data by the cell company, which doesn’t
require a warrant for information.


Read more..

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/04/02/is-warrantless-tracking-of-cell-tower-data-as-unconstitutional/

Arrowwind
26th January 2013, 00:31
Of course its unconstitutional. Now somebodys got to go to court, spend a bunch of money, waste their life's energy to prove what people already know. Warrentless searches are illegal and unconstitutional. They need to prove that they had a warrent... and then they have no right to hear whats being said on your phone, even just two words... are they going to write this off as collateral damage, this infringement of privacy for the general public who happen to be using the same transmission towers? I hope these folks keep up on tracking this issue. This is big brother. You have to keep looking over your shoulder all the time if you live around there. Were supposed to believe that they dont keep information that they went to the trouble to collect? why are they not up front about what they are doing. Guilt comes to mind.

Flash
26th January 2013, 04:41
Another surveylance story !


GtPJBVk-lgU

Published on 25 Jan 2013


Here at RT America we have reported on how the US government and select law
enforcement agencies are using the technology known as "Stingray" to track suspected
terrorists every move, but according to reports, the Los Angeles Police Department is
using the technology to not only fight terrorism but to crackdown on daily crime. RT's
Ramon Galindo explores the possible violations of privacy rights.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------





Government
Is Warrantless Tracking of Cell Tower Data Unconstitutional?

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Cellphone-Tower.jpg


Earlier this year, the Supreme Court ruled in a precedent-setting case that using a GPS
tracking device on a vehicle without a warrant constituted a search and therefore
violated the Fourth Amendment. Now, the same defendant is seeking to have a similar
precedent set for warrantless tracking of cellphone data based on cell tower location.

In January, the Supreme Court ruled unanimously in the United States v. Antoine Jones
that use of a GPS device required a warrant, although the reasoning among the justices
differed. At the time, the Blaze spoke with Greg Nojeim, director of the Center for
Democracy and Technology’s project on freedom, security and technology, who said he
believed this ruling opened the door for discussion on warrantless cellphone tracking as
well — and it has. Wired reports on Friday in a pre-trail of a retrial for Jones, defense
attorney Eduardo Balarezo said the government is seeking to use cellphone tracking as
a replacement for what it can’t do now with GPS tracking. Balrezo said:

The government has produced material obtained through court orders for the relevant
cellular telephone numbers. Upon information and belief, now that the illegally obtained
GPS data cannot be used as evidence in this case, the government will seek to
introduce cell site data in its place in an attempt to demonstrate Mr. Jones’ movements
and whereabouts during relevant times. Mr. Jones submits that the government
obtained the cell site data in violation of the Fourth Amendment to the United States
Constitution and therefore it must be suppressed.


http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Cellphone-triangulation_IntoMobile.com_.jpg


Earlier this year, Vice President of Public Policy for the CDT Jim Dempsey explained how
cellphone tower tracking worked, saying that cell companies collect information about
every seven seconds from the cell tower you’re connecting to. This information
therefore pins a location pretty close to where you are. It’s not as accurate as GPS
tracking but relatively close. Dempsey also explained how cell towers could potentially
become even more pervasive:


Imagine you had poor cell service in your house, Dempsey said providing an example.
You could essentially get a tower put in your house; almost every floor of office
buildings have their own cell tower now for good service. Now you have a precise
location of inside your home, Dempsey said, where you and anyone who visits you and
uses their cellphone can be picked up as data by the cell company, which doesn’t
require a warrant for information.


Read more..

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/04/02/is-warrantless-tracking-of-cell-tower-data-as-unconstitutional/

I thought that thiefts and real criminals, as well as criminal gangs, where bying telephones by the card that you can throw away after usage. They do not keep their phone for very long. So what would be the use of tracking phones if it is not for regular citizens or "dissidents"?

Cidersomerset
26th January 2013, 08:24
I thought that thiefts and real criminals, as well as criminal gangs, where bying telephones by the card that you can throw away after usage. They do not keep their phone for very long. So what would be the use of tracking phones if it is not for regular citizens or "dissidents"?

Yes the criminals & 'terrorists' will always find ways around 'new' enviroments whether technical or not.Like the anti heat surveylance clothing thread.
Its the white coller & government criminal/terrorists that are the real problem and if they can deflect this to the public at large,they can carryon
getting away with their 'Bankster' frauds, drug , Oil & arms deals behind closed doors.