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ROMANWKT
31st January 2013, 11:35
This very subject has been discussed before on Avalon, if one searches deep in to the archives here.
I would like to interject here with the answers that had already been given to you all by Bob, to those that are still participating in this thread.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54217-Their-Mind-and-the-Emotional-Matrix-that-we-create-with-it.&p=624294&viewfull=1#post624294
And Bobs own Web Site http://theconsciousprocess.wordpress...ne-of-silence/
“The grand trick of those sorcerers of ancient times was to burden the flyers’ mind with discipline. Sorcerers found out that if they taxed the flyers’ mind with inner silence, the foreign installation would flee, and give any one of the practitioners involved in this manoeuvres the total certainty of the mind’s foreign origin. [It] comes back, I assure you, but not as strong; and a process begins in which the fleeing of the flyers’ mind becomes routine until one day it flees permanently.”
~Don Juan Matus, “The Active Side of Infinity”, by Carlos Castenada
In a critical passage of his written teaching, he says, "You must watch yourself continuously - particularly your mind - moment by moment, missing nothing. This witnessing is essential for the separation of the self from the not-self."
“Whatever happens in consciousness is purely imaginary, a hallucination. Therefore keep in mind the knowledge that it is consciousness in which everything is happening. With that knowledge, be still, do not pursue any other thoughts which arise in consciousness.”
http://albigen.com/uarelove/nisargadatta_practice.aspx
I would also like to ask you, what precisely did you think that the clearing and releasing is all about?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54427-My-Friend-Lester-Levenson&p=617386&viewfull=1#post617386
And what precisely did you think Ho,oponopono is all about?
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The solution to a problem, known for thousands of years.
Warmest regards to all.
roman
ROMANWKT
31st January 2013, 12:06
Go through all the events of your life reliving the past that had accumulated a lot of emotions that have left their mark on you somehow. All guilt must be brought up and released until it has no more power left to raise itself. Keep releasing, keep releasing and keep releasing.
Eventually you will be able to walk outside and keep your doors open permanently; nothing will bother you. As all data, no matter what comes to you, immediately leaves you through your open door. Nothing will be able to upset you. All nonsense bombarding you will not have an affect, it comes in and straight out, you cannot be touched, period.
You will end up being very light and at peace with everybody. And everything in your illusion will be at peace with you.
roman
ROMANWKT
31st January 2013, 14:33
The process of understanding is speeding up, be mindful, "Its all nonsense", as the truth is nothing more than a belief, be careful in what you believe in, review your thoughts
Regards as ever
roman
ROMANWKT
31st January 2013, 18:42
Moving on up
regards
roman
johnf
31st January 2013, 23:59
I'm not sure what is going on with my settings, and the forum software, but the emotional matrix thread, as well as the do you feel safe threads were not showing up on the re cent threads page.
I only found out about them by way of my skype group, which consists mainly of avalon members. They were saying omg check out all the drama, and Bill is about to bring out the ban hammer, and it is so bad he may have to close down the forum and start a new one. For a day or two I read a little bit of those threads, then saw some new ones about psychic attacks etc. And I found myself brushing it all aside and not really seeing the point of reading it. Thing is, I have held a long fascination about the idea of THEM, which has showed up in the Castaneda idea of the flyers etc, the ptb, ...
In a large part this has been a focussing on the problem, and I have noticed a desire there behind it, that was to be somebody.
Interesting idea since I am already somebody and seem to have no choice in the matter. That thought is often followed by ,no somebody special, with similar results.
So having personal experiences recently, often accompanied by waking up in the middle of the night and seeing my mind from a perspective somewhat outside of it and much more quiet than usual, I saw that Miriam delicado was having a live streamed interveiw, here http://www.livestream.com/ekbtv. This show has yet to be archived, but i was lucky to be able to catch some of it.
In it she describes the long slow change that she has gone through in recent months, and she says that she came to an understanding that in order to deal with extremely difficult people, including those that she saw as endangering mankind and the planet by thier actions, was to stop giving them her attention and move on. That it was hopeless and even prideful to think that she could educate them.
Coming back to the idea of the flyers, ptb etc, I have had the idea float by over the last few years that this other whatever it may seem to be at the moment was utterly unimportant and the better thing for me to do was to just lightly acknowledge it and move on.
Dr. Hew len, Scott Kiloby, and others have been saying this sort of thing in so many different ways, but it is all the same idea, the actual self if it does exist is pure essense , and absolutely silent whether that self seems to be me or the other.
This is the sort of thing I prefer to spend my time on these days, thanks for the nice thread Roman.
Latti
1st February 2013, 00:17
Roman, thank you for the video links. They helped open a window or clarify a concept that I had been not allowed to fully surface. While knowing that the answers were within us, I continued to blame others. This helped me to understand that magnificent opportunities exist all around us everyday. Maybe not in everyone's life, but they certainly do in mine.
ROMANWKT
1st February 2013, 07:13
Copied, don’t know from where?
Consciousness creates reality. All reality, including matter, is shaped and molded by thought. Creation itself is the result of conscious thought-energy influencing, arranging, and manifesting form and substance as we know it. Countless non-physical explorations into the interior of the universe confirm this observation. It's only the density of matter that obscures the truth of this from our physical senses. In the physical world, consciousness uses biological vehicles for its expression. Our physical bodies are the direct tool of our consciousness; our thoughts direct our bodies to build the reality we experience every day of our lives. This process of consciousness creating reality is more important than words can begin to express. Our recognition of this reality is the first step to true mastery of ourselves and our surroundings. It is up to us, however, to recognize and implement our creative ability. Our recognition of the creative power of consciousness will dramatically affect both our immediate future and the evolution of our species. Until we truly comprehend and consciously control the unseen energies flowing through us, we will be bound to the dense molecular forms that surround us. Our evolution from a physical creature to a multidimensional, non-physical being is directly linked to the recognition and conscious control of our thought-energy. Once we truly comprehend our individual ability to shape and mould the energy around us, we can begin to take responsibility for our thoughts. With every thought and deed we become aware that we are the creative artists of our lives.
Our only real hurdle is attachment to and continued investment in conditioned beliefs and concepts that suggest we are limited and weak, incapable of assuming total responsibility for the creation of reality, when in fact we are powerful immortal beings, second only to Source in all the multi-verse.
"There is only one state, that of consciousness or awareness or existence. The three states of waking, dream and deep sleep cannot be real. They simply come and go. The real will always exist. The "I" or existence that alone persists in all the three states is real. The other three are not real and so it is not possible to say they have such and such degree of reality. We may roughly put it like this, Existence or consciousness is the only reality. Consciousness plus waking, we call waking. Consciousness plus sleep, we call sleep. Consciousness plus dream, we call dream. Consciousness is the screen, on which all the pictures come and go. The screen is real, the pictures are mere shadows on it. Because by long habit, we have been regarding these three states as real, we call the state of mere awareness or consciousness the fourth. There is however, no fourth state, but only one state. There is no difference between dream and the waking state except that the dream is short and the waking long. Both are the result of the mind."
"It is like the light that is kept on the stage of a theater. When a drama is being played, the light is there, which illuminates, without any distinction, all the actors, whether they be kings or servants or dancers, and also all the audience. That light will be there before the drama begins, during the performance and also after the performance is over. Similarly, the light within, that is, the Self, gives light to the ego, the intellect, the memory and the mind without itself being subject to processes of growth and decay. Although during deep sleep and other states there is no feeling of the ego, that Self remains attribute-less, and continues to shine of itself.
Actually the idea of the Self being the witness is only in the mind; it is not the absolute truth of the Self. Witnessing is relative to objects witnessed. Both the witness and his object are mental creations."
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