The Technological Revolution: Artificial Intelligence and the Invisible Plague

[SilentFeathers]

I personally think these data centers, such as the one in Utah, etc., are just "hubs" and or storage/relay centers to the "biggen".....I think there is a huge one somewhere, probably CERN, or near there.

These hubs in a way are the cloud tools for the biggen.....bouncing data all over the place, even in space.

[Flash]

Here's an info-graphic I've been working on.

It's a lot of programs/projects but it's not all of 'em. Also, there are some companies missing (i.e. Lockheed Martin, BAE, and some others I can't think of right now I'm so tired).

Next step is to compile a PDF with links to the webpages of the programs/projects.

By the way, just enter in the acronym in google along with the box it's connected to -- you should be able to dig up some information. There's plenty.

Click on the PDF for a bigger version.

your mind map is really beautiful. Very comprehensive, except: do you have a color code? I am not sure of my deciphering.

Second: this is MOM's ORDER: take a brake, go to rest. You also have your studies to think of. TAKE A BREAK, from my far away point of view, you are near obsession right now. One week off the forum Vivek, one week. You will burn out Vivek, Mom has been through it before you, believe me.

ok, I am mixing in things that do not regard me, this is what a mom's role is usually isn't it? I do care for someone as bright and as dedicated as you are Vivek and I can see how much you are doing. Coupled with studies, this is way too much even if you had 160 IQ. So, off forum for one week. REST and study, but do not touch conspiracies.

Love to you

[Jeffrey]

Here's an info-graphic I've been working on.

It's a lot of programs/projects but it's not all of 'em. Also, there are some companies missing (i.e. Lockheed Martin, BAE, and some others I can't think of right now I'm so tired).

Next step is to compile a PDF with links to the webpages of the programs/projects.

By the way, just enter in the acronym in google along with the box it's connected to -- you should be able to dig up some information. There's plenty.

Click on the PDF for a bigger version.

your mind map is really beautiful. Very comprehensive, except: do you have a color code? I am not sure of my deciphering.

Second: this is MOM's ORDER: take a brake, go to rest. You also have your studies to think of. TAKE A BREAK, from my far away point of view, you are near obsession right now. One week off the forum Vivek, one week. You will burn out Vivek, Mom has been through it before you, believe me.

ok, I am mixing in things that do not regard me, this is what a mom's role is usually isn't it? I do care for someone as bright and as dedicated as you are Vivek and I can see how much you are doing. Coupled with studies, this is way too much even if you had 160 IQ. So, off forum for one week. REST and study, but do not touch conspiracies.

Love to you

I've edited the post to clarify -- there is no color code.

Secondly, I think you're right and I will take your advice.

Thank you.

[Chester]

Vivek - You are the Will Hunting of Avalon.

I thank you so, so, so much for all your posts and especially the clear and obvious genuine care for us all that you have behind them all.


@Bill - this is way beyond "university."

[Chester]

Here's an info-graphic I've been working on.

It's a lot of programs/projects but it's not all of 'em. Also, there are some companies missing (i.e. Lockheed Martin, BAE, and some others I can't think of right now I'm so tired).

Next step is to compile a PDF with links to the webpages of the programs/projects.

By the way, just enter in the acronym in google along with the box it's connected to -- you should be able to dig up some information. There's plenty.

Click on the PDF for a bigger version.

your mind map is really beautiful. Very comprehensive, except: do you have a color code? I am not sure of my deciphering.

Second: this is MOM's ORDER: take a brake, go to rest. You also have your studies to think of. TAKE A BREAK, from my far away point of view, you are near obsession right now. One week off the forum Vivek, one week. You will burn out Vivek, Mom has been through it before you, believe me.

ok, I am mixing in things that do not regard me, this is what a mom's role is usually isn't it? I do care for someone as bright and as dedicated as you are Vivek and I can see how much you are doing. Coupled with studies, this is way too much even if you had 160 IQ. So, off forum for one week. REST and study, but do not touch conspiracies.

Love to you

Flash - I believe Vivek is fine - I also am convinced his IQ is well above 200... in fact, off the scale. I am also convinced Vivek (the actual Spirit Being) is just fine.

And now to get metaphorical - I am also convinced "motherly advice" is the Gnostic myth's "Sophiac component" that influenced "the demiurge" to cutting himself off from (and thus all creation "he" influences) and losing his sight of "actual creation."

Vivek is just fine on his own... he has taken breaks before... on his own.

Just a little "brotherly advice" from justonewookiee

[Flash]

Here's an info-graphic I've been working on.

It's a lot of programs/projects but it's not all of 'em. Also, there are some companies missing (i.e. Lockheed Martin, BAE, and some others I can't think of right now I'm so tired).

Next step is to compile a PDF with links to the webpages of the programs/projects.

By the way, just enter in the acronym in google along with the box it's connected to -- you should be able to dig up some information. There's plenty.

Click on the PDF for a bigger version.

your mind map is really beautiful. Very comprehensive, except: do you have a color code? I am not sure of my deciphering.

Second: this is MOM's ORDER: take a brake, go to rest. You also have your studies to think of. TAKE A BREAK, from my far away point of view, you are near obsession right now. One week off the forum Vivek, one week. You will burn out Vivek, Mom has been through it before you, believe me.

ok, I am mixing in things that do not regard me, this is what a mom's role is usually isn't it? I do care for someone as bright and as dedicated as you are Vivek and I can see how much you are doing. Coupled with studies, this is way too much even if you had 160 IQ. So, off forum for one week. REST and study, but do not touch conspiracies.

Love to you

Flash - I believe Vivek is fine - I also am convinced his IQ is well above 200... in fact, off the scale. I am also convinced Vivek (the actual Spirit Being) is just fine.

And now to get metaphorical - I am also convinced "motherly advice" is the Gnostic myth's "Sophiac component" that influenced "the demiurge" to cutting himself (and thus all creation "he" influences) and losing his sight of "actual creation."

Vivek is just fine on his own... he has taken breaks before... on his own.

Just a little "brotherly advice" from justonewookiee

It is the first time I do that on the forum JusteChester, giving advice to take a brake. I saw something for sure, this is not my habit.

However, Vivek can handle his own being no doubt about this. In this you are right.

[Christine]

Every one of us needs to find the time to step back, and I am sure that Vivek appreciates that we deeply care for him. He is doing work for all of humanity, yes way beyond university level indeed. I would say cosmic level intelligence is at work here. Speaking for myself I feel the level of integrity this calls for and I know that sometimes more is extracted from us than we originally thought would be.

We support each other in multiple ways. We can all use motherly and brotherly love.

[Limor Wolf]

Hi, I just finished reading this thread and watched large parts of its contents. Like others I find it to be an excellent place of investigation for this outmost important and extra real subject, done with a very high standard of learning.

Thank you so much Vivek, Rmorgan, Silentfeather and the rest of the contributers.
By gathering our finds, thoughts and perceptions we may be able to move forward, define the situation, get ourselves updated and search and find a way out of this clump. the outcome can possibly be more than we may figure.. A new way of understanding can be born and may tilt the situation in our favor BY LEARNING TO USE THE TOOLS THAT ARE INHERENT IN US. It can be done.

The need for this thread was created as a result of personal and shared experience of many here in the form of an attack on the forum and some members within it, I believe only good can come out of this truth being revealed.

I can't help but wonder how many feel such an intervention in their life as partly described by Kevin Canada in this video, I know that I do. It takes courage to admit it, most of all to ourselvs, but it also seems important enough to share and see what we can do about it.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzdXIzZU0mY

[Gardener]

I have been wondering this too Limor, it seems there is maybe a low level attack/agenda targeting the general population, on multiple levels, social engineering of a whole population taken to new levels of conformity. Then a focused and targeted individual attack aimed at silencing specific information or action.
Who are these people employed to carry out the 'stalking'? Kevin has a few sugestions, and I don't disagree, but sooner or later one or more of them is going to 'talk' and this hasn't happened. YET. I guess the fear factor for now is preventing them, but sooner or later they will.

I can't help but wonder how many feel such an intervention in their life as partly described by Kevin Canada in this video, I know that I do. It takes courage to admit it, most of all to ourselvs, but it also seems important enough to share and see what we can do about it.

[Limor Wolf]

Hi Gardner, We need to remember that there are two forces at work right now on the same plane, One is consciousness - it's agenda is expansion and organic development of the human race, the other is Transhumanism - the reduction of human essence, especially emotions and the expansion of the human mind in a very specific and programmed way. May the best one win?
It does'nt work this way.
We will have to work really hard to preserve our human spirit with all the obstacles and get to the next level. Awarness, consciousness and knowledge is our only chance. The unfortunate thing is that this process is personal, and can not be done for someone else, the positive aspect is that consciousness has the possibility to be contagious just as much as implementing mind-robot in society, if not a lot more.

Dolores Cannon is an American regressive hypnotherapist and author, who recorde lost "knowledge" of ancient cultures and investigates life on other planets via her clients who go through deep regression. She is known for gathering a lot of information and present her study in the many books she wrote. One can not suspect that this material is unbiased, in fact, it can greatly be so. Nevertheless, I read the four books of her 'convoluted Universe' series and one case there I remember very well, It might be quite interesting to read in light of all the subjects discussed about in this thread. Obviously, it is a more esoteric aspect, it is not science, but worth reading and paying attention to while we keep in mind human robots, 'scuttlers', spyders (pan intended) etc, etc.

From the 'Convoluted Universe', Book one by Dolores Cannon

The Mechanical person


Dolores has regressed her client, after a short description of where she found herself (not on planet Earth), she began to ask her questions:

"I then asked her to look down at her feet so I find out what she looked like.

J: It's troublesome for me to say, but I guess I'll have to say it.
They're metallic…It feels like I'm sort of metallic myself.
… (Pause) I walk in a funny way as if, like a machine almost.
It's different from how I am now in my body in this life. Actually it's like a metallic thing, the whole thing. And I walk over and I make movements that are not smooth. I stagger.
D: Stiff movements?
J: Stiff, yes, and I feel sort of like robot when they walk. Just move one side forward and the other side forward. Not very elegant actually. Even though the body is not too ugly, but I'll have a look at my face in a minute.
(She described her eyes as triangle, and her head as metallic)
D: Can you get any sense about what it's like on the inside of you? I am wondering if you had organs like humans.
J: I seem to have things inside of me, yes. I don't know if they're organs or what they are. A lot of machinery. Actually there seems to be more machinery than anything else. I'm…grayish, darkish… a dark gray sort of metal.
(She enters the city and sees people working on these machines)
D: Can you see the people who are making those machines?
J: Yeah. They are more fleshy in the face. And the rest of it I can't see because they're in a sort of plastic protection clothing.
D: What do they look like?
J: Not like me. They have softer faces, and they're quite pale. They look quite human, what we call "human", Pale and slightly pinkish.
D: And these men are making these machines?
J: Yeah. They're making us.
D: Why are they creating people…things like you? I don't know if I should call you a person or not. Why are they creating you?
J: They want to experiment, they also use us for things which they don't want to do. Or they can't do, because it's too dangerous or something.
D: Is it all machines?
J: It's all machines. There is something like a soul. That's what is so strange, because I have feelings as well. I'm not just a machine, you know.
D: Are they able to put a soul, a spirit into these machines?
J: I think they put a part of theirs into it. They give us a little bit of theirs. So we're not them, but we sort of functioning in their way.
D: Otherwise you would be like a robot, a machine?
J: Yeah. They want us to do the things right. Or to rely on our emotions as well as the task we have to do. We wouldn't be sophisticated enough to do it if we didn't have that piece. We'd just be programmed. They don't create souls, they don't have that ability. Maybe God does it or somebody. They can only do it by sacrificing a little bit of theirs. And that's what they put into us.

D: Does the machine think on its own and have an intellect?
J: The machine has thinking power, yes. But, Of course it's programmed. It's only thinking because it's programmed.
D: It can't go off on its own as an individual?
J: No, no. It's only when it has the soul bit, it can react in a different way. That's the difference. It will still only do what it's supposed to do, but it has more variety in reacting.
D: do those people communicate with you?, verbally, in words?
J: Yes, they can. They give us commands in words, as well as with the insides, the machinery. They can't simply think and we do it. They have to tell us
D: So even though you do have a certain amount of intellect you can't communicate like a thinking human being.
J: We're not supposed to. We could, but we're not supposed to, we're programmed to understand the task, and say "understood", and do it.
D: So, they take you on their exploring of other planets.
J: Yeah. They send us off for tasks, so we can see which planet is conductive for whatever the purpose is.
D: Do they go with you?
J: No, no. They would never go with us. No, no. We have to do it. Because they have a skin, and they're pinkish. They wouldn't have protection from light, because it's very intense light where we're going.
D: Can you function in any kind of temperature, any kind of environment?
J: Yes, but we're especially made for the heat places.
D: They have to bring you back with information?
J: Right. We have an automatic registration of information. It goes through the eyes.
D: Does that records information in some way, like data or something? (Yeah) What do you do when you get to the place?
J: We have to go through the heat. And travel around in the heat, and see what's underneath. And if there are people, or not, what there is. We see if there's life there and what kind. So they can be prepared in case they manage to go through the heat. So they can either possess the planet or explore it. And if not, they better not do it. So they get this kind of information. That's why we need our soul as well, because we can feel the place.
D: A machine wouldn't be able to do that (No) A machine could record information, but it couldn't give them things that they need to know.
J: Yeah. But there's also disadvantage about it. Because we have soul—okay, maybe it is only ten or twenty percent—but we have it. Which means we have all the emotions which go with that. Which means we feel things like attraction amongst each other.
D: You mean each other as a machine?
J: Yeah. Of course, we're not supposed to live or feel that. We don't have any reproduction organs. They've blocked that. They made us, but we feel all the feelings. That's very strange.
D: That's one of the disadvantages?
J: Yes, because we suffer from that. And also for them it's something they don't understand. They are actually very cruel to us, because they prove to us that there is no hope. We think if they give us something inside, if they make it proper, we could actually do this. We could have connections like they have. We could be in love, and have a family and stuff, but they are not prepared to do that. On the contrary, they laugh. They do things with me. You know, they put something through, like a screw driver, and they say, "Look, there's nothing in it. It's ridiculous. It's just metallic.. You don't have anything. There can't be any feeling." But it's like a phantom pain. We have it, because we think we have something that is fruitful there, because of the soul part. They probably don't quite realize what it must be like. And they think, "Oh, they're just machines". But we aren't. We have all the needs. It's only to a minor degree maybe, a lesser degree, but in our own way we have these needs. And they don't allow us to live it.
D: So they didn't realize they were also handicapping you by giving you these feelings.
J: I think they had no idea.
D: But like you said, they're still experimenting.
J: That's true, they're experimenting, and they didn't really realize what could happen.

Dolores Cannon comment:
"This made me think of references to recent movies and TV shows. In the "Bicentennial Man" Robin Williams was a robot that evolved to the point he was indistinguishable from a human, with all the feelings and emotions. Also in a "Star Trek, Next Generation" episode when Data was to be disassembled, and had to prove that he was really almost human. In both cases "normal" human beings could not believe that machines could develop the capacity to feel and experience emotions, and exhibit characteristics that we categorize as belonging strictly to the human race."

D: When you go to those places, do you gather information by just watching everything?
J: Yeah. If there is population, it's like taking a photograph through your eyes. Just looking at them puts the information in so many degree. And they can get that out at the other end, and reproduce the data.
D: What about the people, the beings that live on these planets? How do they react when they see you?
J: Oh, we truly have to try not to be seen, because they're rather shocked when they see us. Sometimes we have to do something to make them not aware that we're there. Sort of blocking out the conscious part of the conscious mind – then we take the photograph and go away. And they relax and are normal again. They don't remember it.
D: Maybe that's why you have to have that human part, because a machine wouldn't know how to do those things.
J: No, it wouldn't be sensitive to realize the other person is concentrating, or is asleep, or it's day-dreaming, or whatever they are doing.
D: And if it were seen, it wouldn't know how to hide.
J: true.

D: So what do you do whenever you finish exploring the planet?
J: We come back, and they take the information out. And sometimes they give us a bit of a rest and oil us and stuff. Sometimes we immediately go back to somewhere else.
D: Because you don't get tires like they would.
J: No, we just get emotionally tired inside, if that's what you call it. But they don't know anyway.
D: You don't have any way to communicate and tell them about your feelings.
J: Yes, we can, but we're not supposed to. They make fun if we'd say we want such and such. They laugh because we are only about ten percent human. You know if you want to say that, and we're not supposed to. They don't realize what they've given us. It's a much broader thing, a gift or whatever, than they realize.
D: I wonder if they knew if it would make a difference.
J: No, because they would want to control us. They have us only because what they want."

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This video (taken from an old Avalon thread, posted by Reaver) is a good illustration of where we may be going if to follow the agenda of what I feel is 'outworldly' forces at work which is conducted by semi human and human operators, if we will not find a sufficient way to prevent it. It is good that we are putting our awarness to it now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKA_l1KBhEA#!

[Limor Wolf]

This might not be the right place for such thoughts, and if so, Vivek, please delete this post or move it to a more suitable location. We are dealing with disruptive technology and this technology is directed against us as collective and as individuals. I doubt if it is anything new, I know it is not. It is simply that now they have the need to step up their game and get the devils out of the closet so to speak. I woke up this morning with real grasp of what we can do, and that we have the ability to create inspite of this Electromagnetic waves that are directed against us, and the confusing thoughts that are implanted in us as if it is ours and the feelings that accompany this pretty dark agenda.

This is not a version of 'The Secret', nothing superficial in it's concept, we might be required to do a tough job in this 3D world and planet, some high waves arise across to stop our movement towards the desirable direction, We are manifestors, however, we have great ability to manifest due to the vast collection of emotions that we own which adds to the collective's toolbox. An inability of the other 'party' to feel emotions makes them battle us and want to diminish our abilities, put us to their own use and service instead of to join forces. we could learn quite a lot from their extremely brilliant thinking abilities, they have things they can learn from us, It could have been a great learning curve, instead it is a farce of some unknown creator that created all those diversified worlds and put them together to manage with one another : ) a bit untasteful joke. There is no doubt we are equals to them and not inferior. For now, they are feeding themselvs from us, we are their food source, and to tell the truth no one wants to starve to death when their food gather itself and aim to move to another role.

I do feel that we can get into their heads as much as they get into ours, but with a different approach, without any attempt to control or manipulate or return the battle in any way. In fact solely for the purpose of study and research and to be able to put our own limits and be assertive on what we are willing or not willing to do. At the same time we might like to formulate the vision as well as some tangible understanding of how we would like to see this world evolutionize, in fact, this actually might be their hidden role, to help us to do just that. unbeknowest to them or to us. this might be the wierd way of the evolution of worlds in the cosmos.
All copywrites reserved to the creator, acssess to the complaints box only at the end of this game.

I write and feel the grip tightening around my head

This thread is important since it allows us to map and study their brain, see where their plans are going and internally not agree with it. Our brains have the chance now to develop much further because of the great resistance. Strong muscles are acquired by practice, it is called endurance training. the technology is not (yet) the problem only the operators and manifestors behind it. This is what they see with their minds eye, the question is what DO WE see? what are our own desires and where would we like set our limits.

Once upon a time we knew how to draw, We forgot how to use this ability and some attempts are made to prevent us from taking a color, a brush and a painting page in our hands, everything is done so we will not have the desire or strength or enough energy to reach all those and excersice and excersice, and eventually lead the way. problems are mounted on our door step. But we are creators. A creation must come from a gut wish, from deep inside the intestines, from knowing wrong from right from keeping the eyes on the road, creative worlds can not be controlled.

And now it is time to get out of bed and begin the day ~

[Hervé]

Now, for a slightly different perspective regarding the research in the domain of artificial intelligence:

What IF the researchers were tapping ancient "civilizations" via their -- and other people's -- memories instead of badgering "ETs" for their "technologies"?

See?

Because, when appropriately asked, people do remember...

For example, this guy seem to have recovered the story line of a space civilization known as "Arslycus":


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ARSLYCUS

3 June 1991

Arslycus was a vast and troublesome city in space. Almost anyone who was in this galaxy a few hundred million years ago has had some involvement with it.

LRH References:
HCL-22 5203Cxx How to audit a theta line
HCL-27 5203Cxx How to search for incidents on the track PDC-(Philadelphia Doctorate Course -one of the early lectures, I forgot which one)
Individual Track Map (old tech Vol. 1 p 238) uses Arslycus as an example.

There is only a small amount of LRH data on this. I believe that the date of 1 trillion years ago given in the track map example is incorrect.

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1. General Information

Arslycus implanted people to make slaves. They used false track implants, between lives implants, and body in pawn mechanisms.

They stripped the entire population from both this and the next inward spiral arm of the galaxy. That's probably around 500,000 inhabited planets. Eventually they bumped into the borders of the Galactic Empire which is in towards the central core of the Galaxy and were finally destroyed.

(Note: at some point, the Galactic Empire was subverted or converted by Hellatrobus, at least for awhile, and might then be termed the Hellatrobian Galactic Empire. Their symbol was the cross. I'm still having trouble sorting all this out. It might have been the war with Arslycus that allowed Hellatrobus to gain power in the Galactic Empire, because Arslycus and Hellatrobus were long term enemies. Hellatrobus used implants to make people good. Arslycus used implants to make slaves. The early Galactic Empire was against using implants until Hellatrobus got their claws into them).

Normal planets are inhabited only on their surface. This is really a 2 dimensional area with only slight use of height etc. A space city with total artificial control of gravity and energies is capable of building in 3 dimensions.

If you imagine the Earth spread out flat, and then additional earths each supported a few hundred feet apart to a height of 8000 miles (the diameter of the earth), you will see that a space city hardly larger than the earth could have almost a quarter of a million times the surface area of our planet.

Arslycus was actually much larger than this, being closer to the size of the sun rather than the Earth. These tiny space empires of a few hundred planets like Marcab or Espinol or the old Galactic Confederacy could have their entire populations placed in a corner of a single level of Arslycus. And Arslycus had many thousands of levels.

There was a great deal of space within the city. There were endless little flat planes covered with blocks of suburban homes and skyscrapers hanging at various angles in the air and roads in the sky tying these all together. Light came from some sort of energized glowing white clouds and the sky was blue with air everywhere. They had full control of artificial gravity. You might look across at another building hanging in the air and the people in it might be upside-down relative to you. If you got a short distance away from any of the buildings or surfaces (parks etc.), you were weightless and could swim in the air (or rent wings to flap with etc.).

At the time it was started, around 626 million years ago, it was probably a nice place, but it became very degraded.

At the center, they had a captive black hole, probably formed by imploding a large star, which provided the power to run all of this.

The society eventually became an oppressive cast system, like India. They were crazy on the subject of expansion because that let the older low cast workers move up as new people were brought into the system. Early on you will find planets invited to join and big time politicians making deals to get high ranking positions for themselves from bringing people in. Later on it wasn't so easy to get recruits and Arslycus began sending space fleets against planets to capture their entire populations and make slaves of them.

Arslycus was located in the gap between our spiral arm and the next spiral arm inward towards the center of the galaxy. Astronomy books call these the Orion arm and the Sagittarius arm respectively since your looking down the length of the arm that we are in when you look towards Orion and you are looking towards the next arm inward (and galactic center beyond it) when you look towards Sagittarius.

Since everyone in Arslycus was on a conscious and controlled reincarnation (picking up adult vat grown bodies whenever they were reborn), there were no new souls being born into the system. They tried handling this by levying a slave tax and making people divide themselves to produce a slave being (as was done in the magic kingdom of Giliad which is an earlier similar on this kind of society) but this was not successful and led to a revolt and the practice was stopped. So the population could increase only by bringing in thetans from outside.

Over the course of many millions of years, Arslycus raided both the Orion and Sagittarius spiral arms for slaves. Eventually they captured everybody from the edge of the galaxy inward to the edge of the Galactic core in this quadrant of the galaxy (it was impractical to take over the opposite side of the galaxy although some expeditions were probably made in that area).

At the core, they ran into the Galactic Empire. This is an ancient civilization with vast numbers of planets (hundreds of thousands). Stars are much closer together in the hub of the galaxy and so the comm lines are short enough to allow for a very big society. This is also referred to as the Galactic Confederation (not the same as the Galactic confederacy of Incident 2) since it protects a large number of backwater planets and small empires that are not really part of the empire but are its allies (forming a sort of confederation, much like the British Commonwealth).

Unlike the small Galactic rim empires, the Galactic Empire was large enough to match the population and resources of Arslycus. Although Arslycus had immensely shorter internal comm lines and a tiny defensive perimeter, its population was too heavily implanted and apathetic to fight an evenly matched war so that after a few major battles, Arslycus gave up on any direct attempts to raid the Empire.

So Arslycus became covert. One practice was to launch slave raids against backwater planets that could not defend themselves. They would snatch all the people they could and then flee from empire fleets which would arrive and chase them back to the heavily defended outer perimeter of Arslycus.

Another ploy was to setup traps to capture empire ships. These were like black rifts in space. Ships would disappear into them, be vaporized, and the thetans shipped off to Arslycus. For a long time, the empire thought that this was some natural phenomena and was all concerned about what they thought were some kind of space warps that were appearing and grabbing ships. Yet another practice was to seed between lives pickup mechanisms into the skies above empire planets. These were telepathic projections of things like heavenly gates etc. They were a sort of shallow imitation of the Helatrobus operation. Between lives souls would get suckered into these and be whisked away to Arslycus.

Arslycus put vast amounts of effort into researching earlier track implants for the purposes of getting more and more slaves. It was the true home of the Brainwashing Psychs by which I mean the people who research the mind for the purpose of control rather than freedom. It was a very respected high cast position there.

Eventually the empire got so fed up that it committed all of its resources to the destruction of Arslycus. Even so, it could not wipe out the Arslycian space fleet or do more than minor damage to the city. Among other defenses, there were endless robot controlled "space ships" that were just big frames of girders (like a skyscraper under construction) that could project rays and energy fields and protect the city.

But the black hole was a weak spot. Dead planets were collected in quantity and empire OTs (this is the society that operated on a limited OT basis) drove planet after planet into the hole so that it gained too much mass too quickly. This made the black hold unstable and the Arslycian technicians lost control of it.

The city's power sources blew and the artificial gravity went wild. It all pulled apart and everyone there fell through the sky.

The city might have fallen about 226 million years ago (?).

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2. The Guilt Implant

This incident is used on people when they are first captured by Arslycus and to subdue them again when necessary (i.e., if someone is caught escaping). You can assess for the number of times it was done (I got 43 times). Spot and date the first time.

This incident is a combination of false track and misdating of your own pictures. They badger you for overts [i.e. "sins"] and get you to put a picture of one of your overts up on a thought sensitive screen. This is supposed to be a therapy. Later they show you the picture with a wrong date and make you wrong for having done the overt.

This interrogation of the individual to get his overts and put them up on a screen seems to be chronic in the later days of Arslycus. They kept the pictures on file and used them against you later. There are many minor incidents of this sort but the big one is the Guilt implant with its huge dose of false track.

As is usual with false track incidents, they give you lots of pictures of your arriving for the implant and departing from it to make it hard to spot the beginning and the end.

They say that they are going to show you a history of the universe. They show you arriving in the Mest universe in a doll body in a reception room full of angels. There is a big window or picture on the wall which shows the galaxy. They tell you this is what happened in the year zero and that it is 76 Trillion years ago (the correct date for the start of this universe is 86 trillion and the picture is pure fabrication).

These pictures are appearing on a screen with dates running along side of them. As you look at them, you are hit with energy waves and Items come booming out from the walls with sharp electric shocks.

The picture sequence showing you your "existence" in this universe follows the penalty universe goals.

They say that these are your postulates.

The first one is "To Create". The picture is some vague attempt to approximate the 1st penalty universe using doll body forms in this universe.

Note that Arslycus didn't like doll bodies. They were a pure meat body culture. So all this false early track shows you as a doll body.

They say that then you failed to create and decided to destroy.

Now they badger you about "what did you destroy". They make you find an incident and put the picture up on the screen. They have some sort of electrical field which gives them the equivalent of a meter read and they use this to make sure that the incident is real. Then they put a wrong date on this incident (to fit their false history of when you postulated "to destroy").

They go on to the next penalty universe goal (to mock up) and do the same thing with it.

All 64 penalty universe goals are done, with false pictures for the positive side, and the overts you dredged up given to you with a wrong date as the negative side of the goal.

Then they tell you what a louse you are and run through the misdated overt pictures again. They tell you how you have to repent and make amends. They tell you that you must agree to do penance for this by working almost as a slave for millions of years.

If you give up a small overt, they ridicule you and make fun of you as well as hitting you with beams until you give up a big overt.

This implant makes you feel guilty, propitiative, and teaches you that its safer to withhold your overts. Badgering sec checks and any kind of ethics action on overts given up in session can key this implant in heavily. And that really bars the road out because you do need to confront your overts to make it, it just doesn't work if its unsafe to do so. Another liability of this implant is that if you spot it halfway, you can get the idea that all of these overts are false track, and they're not, they're just misdated and made solid by the implant.

After this implant, you're put to work.

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3. The Arslycan Between Lives Implant

They get you attached to a segment of brain tissue or something like that which is kept in a jar ["bodies in pawn" -- same principle that's behind voodoo dolls practice]. This might be the brain of the first body you're given after the guilt implant above. This is used to give you orders and call you back whenever you die. Your regular bodies are vat grown to adulthood and you get one by going through this between lives area.

It's very much like Christian or Buddhist mythology: You die and appear in the judgment hall. There you are badgered for the overts you committed in your last life. Again these are put up on a screen.

Their idea of overts consists of having done a sloppy job one day or of thinking bad thoughts about the government. Almost anything a free being would want to do is an overt. They pile a big ledger of these up against you.

Depending on your attitude etc. the Judge often just sentences you to another lifetime of work and tells you to be good.

If you were really bad (ran away from your job for a week or something like that), they send you to hell. Hell is mostly a false track implant showing you being tortured up on a screen with a false duration of many years. But they end it in a real mockup of hell where you stand around for a few hours breathing in sulfur fumes and feeling thankful that your waiting to be released after all those years.

In the rare cases where your very good, they reward you with some time in heaven and give you a similar false track implant with pictures of you being in paradise followed by a few pleasant hours in the "exit depot" from heaven waiting to be reincarnated.

This between lives experience is actually fairly short so that they could process lots of people through it without using too many administrators and technicians.

This incident also includes lots of duplicate pictures of your arriving and departing and lots of orders to forget this, etc. But they didn't want you to forget it completely. They just want it obscured so that you remember it very vaguely (to take the rough edges off of the false track pictures) and feel very respectful about your duties.

This whole thing tends to fall apart as you spot all the false data they used against you.



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Now you know why Luke "Skywalker" had to drop a bomb to reach the center of "That's no moon..."

[ThePythonicCow]

I just moved 17 posts from this thread to Split thread from The Technological Revolution (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56837-Split-thread-from-The-Technological-Revolution). Some posts were getting a bit off topic for this thread.

Holler if you think I moved a post I shouldn't have, or didn't move one I should have :).

[Limor Wolf]

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Facebook users are helping to create artificial intelligence systems

By Daniel Taylor | oldthinkernews.com


Recent news that Facebook can be used to predict user’s IQ, sexual orientation, and political affiliation is raising eyebrows. The media is not, however, telling the whole story.

Facebook users are in fact helping to create artificial intelligence systems when they share their information online. These self learning systems are expanding more every day as more information is posted. The CEO of Digital Sky Technologies, a Russian venture capital company, invested heavily in Facebook in 2010, saying that it would be “…one of the early platforms for artificial intelligence sometime in the next 10 years.”

Additionally, Facebook’s co-founder Dustin Moskovitz is attempting to “replicate the human brain.” His startup company Vicarious is leading the initiative, which hopes to develop software that “thinks like a human.”

Are most facebook users aware of these projects? Probably not. Would they mind if their personal information was being used to create advanced AI systems? If it offers them unlimited convenience and is able to know exactly what to offer you for a good night out, who wouldn’t mind? The question is, who else has access to this data?

It turns out that the NSA has been developing – and are likely now actively using -what whistleblowers have called “HAL”. It is an artificial intelligence that taps into phone calls, cell phone geolocation, emails, and you guessed it; Facebook.

This video presents a scenario in which facebook succeeds in creating such an AI system (subtitled in English):



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okDR2mDIrnM

http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/11/17260270-gay-conservative-high-iq-your-facebook-likes-can-reveal-traits?lite

http://www.tmcnet.com/news/2010/12/08/5182414.htm

http://www.businessinsider.com/dustin-moskovitz-peter-thiel-vicarious-2012-8

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/military/nsa-police.html

[Chester]

Hi - I hope this thread doesn't die out now... I hope you are still out there Vivek.

I just received this book -

Project: Soul Catcher
Volume Two
Secrets of Cyber and Cybernetic Warfare Revealed
by Robert Duncan
and The Mind Hacking Strategy Group

I am early into this incredible book.

I am pretty sure not many folks would understand this - but I am anything but angry if the truth regarding my life experiences happens to be that I have been a subject of "their" experimentation. I can also understand how the subject cannot have any clue as to what may be behind their experience and cannot know in advance what is in store for them when third parties use technology such as this either experimentally or beyond mere experiments.

My only regrets are based on the hell I put others through throughout my life.

I still have some questions though.

OK, so let's assume for a moment there are no "beings" in "other dimensions" that "interact with us when we go astral" or "speak like voices in our heads."

And that this "directed energy" technology and the "mind hacking" technology is responsible for all these experiences so many folks claim to have had. Me being one of those folks who has dealt with "voices in my head."

If these types of experiences are all, exclusively due to "someone" using this type of technology then...

Who could be this "someone?"

Could this someone be fellow humans?

If so... how does this explain that the plethora of examples of the suspect phenomena have occurred as far back as historical records go? That there are fellow humans (or human cousins) that have been applying this technology for thousands of years? (maybe even millions?)

Could this technology be in the hands of physical realm beings who are not earth born? And that it is these beings who are responsible for applying this technology?

Is this technology now in the hands of more than one group? The "ancients" being one group and the Nazis (made up of modern day man) being another?

Could there be no "god" afterall? Just "spirit beings" like you and me? And that all this "god" bs and thus all this "devil" bs too... that all that is just pure bs?

And that some of our fellow humans know this... have known this all along and simply leave the ignorant to remain ignorant because to try and crack open their mind has proven too difficult?

Could we have (well... yes... clearly we do have) two civilizations of humans amongst us and that there's far more to "the elite" than we ever imagined?

Could all the horrors of SRA as some of us readers of the Horus-Ra thread have determined actually be nothing but mind fantasies projected upon us by "wizards of ozs" behind the curtain of our own ignorance?

Could "interdimensional aliens" be nothing but bs?

Could all the folks interviewed by Dr. Malanga be subjects of this technology such that they all come in with the same story and Dr. Malanga innocently becomes the King of Misdirection/Distraction/Disinformation?

Could demons be the same?

Could "angels" be the same?

Could The Law of One have been a CIA "operation?"

Could all these channelers be nothing but folks subjected to mind control / directed energy devices?

I am now a massive skeptic of all this stuff.

I am now convinced I had been a subject of "the Voice of God" operation Robert Duncan dissects in this book.

I am now questioning if I was born a psychopath or if I became one because of this technology?

[Jeffrey]

Ohhhh okay... There was a major clue to all of this given by Kyle Griffith (regarding some government factions hacking an ancient astral technology), and more importantly ... CREDO MUTWA.




Another thing that the Chitauli told our people, it is said, is that we human beings are here on Earth to change the Earth and to make it suitable for “God” to come down one day and dwell in it. And it is said that they who work to change this Earth and make it safe for the serpent god, the Chitauli, to come and dwell in it, will be rewarded with great power and with great wealth. - Credo Mutwa

This has to do with, I'm pretty sure, frequency. Altering the frequency of the planet. The Schumann Resonance. We couldn't have done this without technology (ultimately). Little by little it was done by the (psychopathic) secret societies placing monuments and performing rituals at sites around the earth that coincide with Gaia's natural grid (i.e. Ley lines, the "etheric" nervous system of the planet). These "elites" were trying to use some sort of geomancy to dampen the natural effects of Gaia's grid.

Next, frequency manipulation. On an extremely massive scale. This is completed by all of us helping out. This is the cell phone network, radio towers, satellites ... this is the invisible plague or "electromagnetic smog" ... it creates an artificial frequency that blankets and interferes with the Schumann Resonance. Wireless everything. There's also telecommunications and power cables everywhere, and fiber-obtic. I've explained all of this before. TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY, IT IS VERY REAL.

This is all leading up to preparing the way for "their god" to come down and dwell on earth, just like Credo Mutwa said. Duncan O'Finioan knows that this is coming too.

I'm telling you, not from doom and gloom, but from a lot of research, this will come sooner than later. No dates, but signposts ... exascale computing is one signpost. We can't have it without a complete re-structuring of computer architecture. This will likely include either superconductors, cognitive computational architectures, or slivers of quantum technology. Likely it will incorporate some of all of these and more. The breakthroughs will drip out over the next five years. Around 2018 (give or take a year) exascale computing should surface -- this is a sign post. This is also the time where neuromorphic chips will become more practical and viable.

Within the 5 years that follow the emergence of exascale, we will see incredible advancements in robotics and artificial intelligence. (Actually, around 2016, we will see Atlas surface in the DARPA robotics challenge, but after that, it's hard to believe the advancements that will quickly follow, the synergies.) All in all, before 2025 we will see the more progress in technology than in the last 50 years combined. Especially with the methodologies that will surface to make exascale computing a reality. Things will shrink very quick, and become much more efficient. This will accelerate the technology growth more so than now. This is a condensation of information here, there is more as evidenced throughout the thread.

Hopefully, I will be done with school by 2020, and then I'm planning on getting out of the states. But I may stay, or leave earlier. There is no telling. I will remain observant and learn what I can in order to contribute whatever I can in the name of the RESISTANCE to this singularity that is coming, this "war" between the darkness and the LIGHT ... and it IS coming. The ball started rolling a long time ago. Why are you here now? Think about it. You have a DUTY, keep searching, as will I.

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RAF, I FOUND IT. THE SPIDERS. I FOUND HOW THEY FIT INTO THIS.

Rudolf Steiner and Sergej Prokofʹev warned about the EXACT thing this thread is all about. There IS an atavistic force manifesting itself through the internet (remember the blog post).

Ohhh man, there's so much ... Chelley, I hope you are reading this too.

Quotes from Prokof'ev's book about Steiner and all this:




"It is as if Rudolf Steiner, with his spiritual gaze, described today’s Internet from beyond the threshold, categorically warning humanity that in a not too distant future, with the unification of moon and earth, this whole internet-computer-web and in fact everything connected with the development of the artificial intellect will suddenly come alive."

"Ahriman finds such favourable conditions especially in the world of the computer and digital industry."

"It follows that the whole computer and Internet industry is today the most effective way to prepare for the imminent incarnation of Ahriman or at least to allow his earthly task to run as smoothly as possible for him. The net of ahrimanic spider beings developing out of the internet around the earth stands right from the beginning in a direct relationship to Ahriman appearing in a physical body and will serve him particularly effectively and offer him extremely favourable potential to work."

A quote from Steiner in Prokof'ev's book:




Steiner: "And from the earth will arise a terrible race of beings, in character midway between the mineral and plant kingdoms, as robotic beings of extreme, intense and logical intellect. They will spread and take hold of the earth, overlaying it as with a web of terrible spiders -- spiders of enormous wisdom, whose organization does not however even reach the level of plants. These terrible spiders will interweave and intermesh with each other, imitating in their movements all that human beings have conceived with their shadowy intellect -- without allowing it to be inspired by a new imagination, and all that is to come through spiritual science. All unreal human thoughts of this kind will assume the reality of being. The earth will be covered [...] with terrible, mineral plant-type spiders, which will spin very rational interconnections with each other but with malevolent intention. And the human being [...] will have to merge his being with these terrible mineral-plant spider creatures."

Steiner: There are those [human beings] who are quite consciously allies of the intention to enmesh human existence."

Just like Credo Mutwa said (regarding "preparation" by the allies of darkness).

Now back to Prokof'ev ...




"These spider creatures will be distinctly ahrimanic in character [...] in an era of global computer and internet links, you may feel disheartened to realize how quickly this prophecy is becoming a reality on earth."

"If we take Rudolf Steiner's words seriously, there can be no doubt that precisely these occult circles, which know of the above mentioned secrets and yet push humanity further in this forlorn direction, also coined a fitting name for the internet, the most appropriate instrument for achieving this future, and have spread it like a secret code: www -- World Wide Web."

Source: http://books.google.com/books?id=SfZymMqqDJ0C&pg=PA109&lpg=PA109&dq=ahrimanic+spider+beings&source=bl&ots=Z8rMlsYkZR&sig=tyEiKhyADKam2AtcIeW3b6njCLI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=kW5KUaO3JMeUrQGB_YCIAg&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAg#v=snippet&q=internet&f=false -- http://zooey.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/spiders/

... and there it is in a nutshell.

So here Steiner has warned about these robotic spider organisms somewhere between the plant and mineral kingdom rapidly populating the earth. The term "ghostly" was also used to describe the spiders. The author connects them to the internet AND connects ahrimanic forces to the technological revolution. It fits perfectly.

There are no coincidences, only PROVIDENCE, CHOICE, and SIMULACRA.

WHY ARE YOU HERE, WHAT IS YOUR PATH. CHOOSE.

There is also this book in French -- From Jundi Shapur to Silicon Valley -- I wish I could find an english copy, I can't even access the French version.

There is also a book I'm digging through called, The Computer and the Incarnation of Ahriman (http://www.steinercollege.edu/node/384), by David Black.

Alright, back to work, see y'all later.

See also: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55117-The-Technological-Revolution-Artificial-Intelligence-and-the-Invisible-Plague&p=636361&viewfull=1#post636361

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ps -- thanks again Flash, much love :)

[marique3652]

This comment goes with Justonewookie's comment...somehow it ended up in the wrong place and I don't know how to put it where it belongs.

Awesome questions indeed. Wish I knew the answer to them..Like you have had experiences so I would be more than interested to know the answers to these questions because a lot of this simply does not make sense.....(not your questions, now those make absolute sense to me). Thanks for your comments here, now I am off to get the book to read for myself. Such an important topic with such vital pertinency....

[Jeffrey]

Yes Chester, I think we are talking about advanced technology that reaches throughout all of matter, physical and astral. An extremely advanced AI of some kind, with volition and intent. Somewhere between VALIS and ECCO, and then there's the SSI that Lilly describes. I think of the 8th sphere as some artificial construct under the control of this sentient technology (antagonistic). I'm still chewing on it all. There is A LOT to process and wade through.

Joie de Vivre

PS -- There is of course a spiritual reality/aspect to everything as well. Yet, there may be SIMULATIONS of spiritual beings (like PROGRAMS), based on the astral tech, and even the physical tech here.

[Chester]

Yes Chester, I think we are talking about advanced technology that reaches throughout all of matter, physical and astral. An extremely advanced AI of some kind, with volition and intent. Somewhere between VALIS and ECCO, and then there's the SSI that Lilly describes. I think of the 8th sphere as some artificial construct under the control of this sentient technology (antagonistic). I'm still chewing on it all. There is A LOT to process and wade through.

Joie de Vivre

Thanks for this post as it now answers my question as to how I have been able to synchronize with my reality experience on a scale that if I attempted to describe it to anyone, they would surely consider me full blown insane.

Example - when I was reading your post above and read my name Chester... at that exact same time my mind is reading the word "chester" Dennis Miller on FOX News says "chest hair"... I mean as if he is speaking "harmony" to my reading. I experience this degree of synchronicity some days well into the several hundreds. It is so far beyond any possibility of coincidence, it just boggles the mind.

OK, so thanks also for stating exactly what I have concluded and wanted to ask on this forum and those questions above were simply "setup" for asking it.

Could there be a "computer" intervention between "us" and our reality experience where the interface is through the human mind. This would fit the "gnostic" lore and so much more.

Now - how does one deal with it all? I have all sorts of "programs" firing off telling me this and that but in all honesty, I cannot trust one single thought I have as to if it is my own or if it is from this "controller" or some combination of the two. The bottom line to me seems all and only about one thing and one thing only.

Be pure of thought, words (written and spoken) and deeds and be vigilant at this and when you fail (as I do daily many many times), give yourself a break but never stop being vigilant.

I am very glad you came back again.

I have no fear at all anymore about any of this.

[Jeffrey]

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"Our young people are sent into the hospitals and scientific faculties of the universities; there the human being is explained to them ... [T]his is no way to comprehend the human being; in this way, one only gets to know the mineral aspect of man. What we learn about the human being through such a science is something that simply and solely has significance from the moon’s separation until its return, something that out of the spider thoughts of today will then turn into spider beings ... [P]eople do not have the remotest idea of the appalling earthly destiny they are approaching by uniting with what an ancient spiritual knowledge called the sixteen paths of human perdition ... [T]here are variations of the shadowy intellect itself, various ways of uniting ourselves through this intellectual activity with the elements of spidery incrustation that will be spun over the whole earth in the future. In that time, the intellect will hold sway objectively in the manifold limbs these spider creatures will possess." [Rudolf Steiner, MATERIALISM AND THE TASK OF ANTHROPOSOPHY (SteinerBooks, 1987), pp. 266-269.]  

Alright, here's the excerpts from Steiner's lecture, A Picture of Earth-Evolution in the Future:




It will be quite possible for the men of earth, if they so wish, to develop a more and more automatic form of intellect — but that can also happen amid conditions of barbarism. Full and complete manhood, however, cannot come to expression in such a form of intellect, and men will have no relationship to the Beings who would fain come towards them in earth-existence. And all those Beings of whom men have such an erroneous conception because the shadowy intellect can only grasp the mineral nature, the crudely material nature in the minerals, plants and animals, nay even in the human kingdom itself — all these thoughts which have no reality will in a trice become substantial realities when the moon unites again with the earth. And from the earth there will spring forth a terrible brood of beings, a brood of automata of an order of existence lying between the mineral and the plant kingdoms, and possessed of an overwhelming power of intellect.

This swarm will seize upon the earth, will spread over the earth like a network of ghastly, spider-like creatures, of an order lower than that of plant-existence, but possessed of overpowering wisdom. These spidery creatures will be all interlocked with one another, and in their outward movements they will imitate the thoughts that men have spun out of the shadowy intellect that has not allowed itself to be quickened by the new form of Imaginative Knowledge by Spiritual Science. All the thoughts that lack substance and reality will then be endowed with being.

The earth will be surrounded — as it is now with air and as it sometimes is with swarms of locusts — with a brood of terrible spider-like creatures, half-mineral, half-plant, interweaving with masterly intelligence, it is true, but with intensely evil intent. And in so far as man has not allowed his shadowy intellectual concepts to be quickened to life, his existence will be united not with the Beings who have been trying to descend since the last third of the nineteenth century, but with this ghastly brood of half-mineral, half-plantlike creatures. He will have to live together with these spider-like creatures and to continue his cosmic existence within the order of evolution into which this brood will then enter.

Source: http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/19210513p01.html

[Freed Fox]

A lot to chew on, indeed. Thank you Vivek, your post (#516) was the one I've been waiting for I think.


And the human being [...] will have to merge his being with these terrible mineral-plant spider creatures.

I think a great deal rests on this, and I think this will be the ultimate choice. It will be the gateway to receiving any benefits at the least, but perhaps more likely it will be required by law. To refuse will not only be putting oneself at a disadvantage, but becoming a wanted fugitive. This is a theory I've had for a long while, and it only seems to be gaining support by the things I learn and the details which emerge.


He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave,
to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark,
or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Yes, I know the hazards in referring to/relying on the Bible, but I do believe some truths are still preserved there. Three major, topical issues would be immediately 'remedied' by installing such a mark... as we've postulated, most likely tiny (perhaps microscopic) RFID chips:

1.) Terrorism
2.) Illegal Immigration
3.) Identity Theft

It can be made to be not only a matter of convenience, but one of national security. Not only will personal identification never be lost or stolen, but other important data will be with you at all times including medical history, allergies, credit card # and more. Certain demographics are likely already paranoid enough to accept something like this. Throw in one more 'terrorist attack' on the same scale as 9/11, and the public might actually start demanding it before it is even unveiled.


Example - when I was reading your post above and read my name Chester... at that exact same time my mind is reading the word "chester" Dennis Miller on FOX News says "chest hair"... I mean as if he is speaking "harmony" to my reading. I experience this degree of synchronicity some days well into the several hundreds. It is so far beyond any possibility of coincidence, it just boggles the mind.

I don't think you're crazy, Chester (but as a friendly aside, I would agree with FineFeather's advice on the other thread; you should not be so insistent upon labeling yourself as a psychopath). I have been blessed to experience this too, and this is what I would classify as true synchronicity. The sensation that it reminds me of the most, is the moment during a dream when you realize you're actually dreaming, and thus the dream becomes lucid. Right before the lucidity, upon which you become the 'master of the universe', so to speak. You are suddenly able to do almost anything, when you've overcome the deceptively simple obstacle of realizing that you're in a dream.

Now, this is where it gets even more speculative on my part, but I think what moments like these are telling us is something very similar. Not that we are in a dream, but that we are in an illusion. I don't think this necessarily goes against anything brought up so far. It may not be that this 'illusion' is entirely insubstantial. The energies and actions inhabiting this space may have some greater, unseen effect on the larger, truer reality which is veiled from us.

To be clear, I totally support Vivek's conclusions in #516. I think that's the purpose for which the illusion was designed. I believe in our true, uninhibited, spiritually activated state, we would be far too aware of the trends and energies to ever allow Ahriman's emergence. The illusion has veiled and drugged us to the extent that not only are we only vaguely aware of it, but many are compelled to actively bring this about (the designers, engineers, manufacturers, inventors).

However, I believe that as long as true spirituality exists, there exists too a force which will trump all evil. So many things in our world today would suggest otherwise. The world is becoming increasingly more techno-centric, and inundated with forces which aim to distract and diminish our spiritual development. Organized religions have formed to monopolize spiritual interpretations and understanding, to dilute their significance, limit one's belief in his or her potential, and ultimately hide the higher truths.

As truly nefarious and insidious as the technological manifestation of Ahriman is, it may also be necessary. This may be an evil which needs to be confronted directly to be purged. Armageddon... the final battle between good and evil.

Perhaps in order to defeat the darkness, it must first be brought into the light...

[Limor Wolf]

Much can be argued when internalizing all this information. If there are contradicting forces in this virtual reality type of dream that we are living in, would that go away when singularity supposedly takes over? Can the existing human spark that represents creativness, desires, emotional needs be diminished or will be forced to ignor itself in order to 'abide the rules'? I would like to make the claim that everything is possible, that is, until awarness kicks in.

The many who are working to develop the human robot and sufficient AI technology to raise it to it's highest level, are doing it from various different motives. Scientific curiosity is always a primery reason, the desire to assist in overcoming diseases and disabilities, (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2249321/The-mind-controlled-robot-arm-lets-paralysed-write-eat.html) technological advancment for the benefit and improvment of society.etc. The hidden organised intentional transhumanism process at this point is not clear to many who are working to promote it and to society in general, therefore, there is no opposition. There are some philosophical debates of pro and against -
http://jetpress.org/v22/coeckelbergh.htm
but these are in most cases talks of what is percieved as an outcome of an organic process but not so much as the very deliberate and ordered agenda that it is. At any one stage, awarness may kick in, what would be it's role when it happens? what would be it's strength? if society is unaware and most scientists are galloping forward with enthusiasm, what will be the effectivness of this small 'particle' of the human spirit that is not at all robotic in nature when it will know what is going on? will it be a lost battle in advance or will it be a power source that can not be converted?

I would like to bet on the second. we are nothing but small ants in comparison to what's out there. We are equipped with a very limited perspective. Derives from it, is that some information about ourself is prevented from us. It might be a rather critical information. What is it?

Why all the hassle, the thousands of years to try to avert us from how we are? The key is HERE, because, I feel, there is no technology in the world (or out of it) that can oppose the strong power of our own will and our minds 'technology' when we put our awarness to it, our desires or our rapidly growing consciousness.

This organic process can not be stopped if we decide that it can't. We are in a midst of a severe battle on our freedom, but in essence, I believe, this is not a battle per se, but an in depth and an extremely extensive research on our true self and the various capabilities we own that we must do in order to break out of this.

It might be that after giving all this information the very needed attention to thoroughly embed it, we would probably would not want to get stuck there but continue and move forward to try and find out in no less depth what is the missing link that we don't yet know how to operate within us which is invincible and impossible to bend. Because we all seem to have such an inner feeling that something of this kind exists and we are in need to get ourselves familiarized with it, instead of sinking in a battle we've been dragged into by other forces.

As Freed Fox said, there is a lot to chew on.. and thank you, Vivek, as always for putting all this food for thought for our consumption. I hope there are many silent readers to this thread, since gathering knowledge and forseeing what is preperd in the sleeves for us may well help us to form a solid oppinion to where we ourselves want to arrive, and not let others (whether 'others' mean human, non human or technology) dictate their desires on us.
I have the feeling that concentrated and clear intent is everything.

[mosquito]

Just a quick post - I only discovered this thread today, and noticed with shock Vivek's statement that he might leave.

I am VERY glad to see that you haven't !!! Yours is one of the finest minds here present and, unlike some others who I won't mention, you always treat people with respect rather than condescension, and are happy to answer questions and engage with others' ideas. A big thank you !!

(this thread is going to take me ages to catch up on !)

[RMorgan]

RAF, I FOUND IT. THE SPIDERS. I FOUND HOW THEY FIT INTO THIS.




"It is as if Rudolf Steiner, with his spiritual gaze, described today’s Internet from beyond the threshold, categorically warning humanity that in a not too distant future, with the unification of moon and earth, this whole internet-computer-web and in fact everything connected with the development of the artificial intellect will suddenly come alive."

"Ahriman finds such favourable conditions especially in the world of the computer and digital industry."

"It follows that the whole computer and Internet industry is today the most effective way to prepare for the imminent incarnation of Ahriman or at least to allow his earthly task to run as smoothly as possible for him. The net of ahrimanic spider beings developing out of the internet around the earth stands right from the beginning in a direct relationship to Ahriman appearing in a physical body and will serve him particularly effectively and offer him extremely favourable potential to work."




Steiner: "And from the earth will arise a terrible race of beings, in character midway between the mineral and plant kingdoms, as robotic beings of extreme, intense and logical intellect. They will spread and take hold of the earth, overlaying it as with a web of terrible spiders -- spiders of enormous wisdom, whose organization does not however even reach the level of plants. These terrible spiders will interweave and intermesh with each other, imitating in their movements all that human beings have conceived with their shadowy intellect -- without allowing it to be inspired by a new imagination, and all that is to come through spiritual science. All unreal human thoughts of this kind will assume the reality of being. The earth will be covered [...] with terrible, mineral plant-type spiders, which will spin very rational interconnections with each other but with malevolent intention. And the human being [...] will have to merge his being with these terrible mineral-plant spider creatures."

Steiner: There are those [human beings] who are quite consciously allies of the intention to enmesh human existence."

[INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]"These spider creatures will be distinctly ahrimanic in character [...] in an era of global computer and internet links, you may feel disheartened to realize how quickly this prophecy is becoming a reality on earth."


So here Steiner has warned about these robotic spider organisms somewhere between the plant and mineral kingdom rapidly populating the earth. The term "ghostly" was also used to describe the spiders. The author connects them to the internet AND connects ahrimanic forces to the technological revolution. It fits perfectly.



Hello my friend,

I´m glad to see you here again; I was missing your highly constructive insights.

It´s extremely interesting to have my views confirmed once more about the nature and purpose of such beings. Really, if you go back to the first pages of this very thread, you will know that all this information was already there. How did I know all of that? I have no clue.

The fact that I had access to this concept even without reading a single word about it is very curious.

Having plenty of first hand experiences with such "animals", I wonder if they gave me the knowledge of such data, deliberately or not. I certainly feel "connected", if you know what I mean.

I often question their nature as well; It seems to me that they are not parasitic, regarding their relationship with humans, but symbiotic, meaning that the host can benefit from their interaction at some level.

I wish other members could experience such interactions as well, so we could study this phenomenon empirically.

Anyway, the only thing I disagree about the above quotations is that these beings are malevolent; From my experience, I have the impression that they are beyond the good/bad paradigm. I had never feared them and never felt threatened by their presence.

How about you, my friend? Have you ever seen them? I would like to know about that.

Again, thank you for the outstanding information, better yet, confirmation. We have enough information in this thread to write a book.

Cheers,

Raf.

[SilentFeathers]

I'm probably repeating myself, but I think they are basically just collecting data right now....IMO they will become VERY dangerous when they make their move so to speak, they will rely on fear and deception to be effective IMO.

Perhaps it's not these spiders we should be concerned about, but instead the man behind the curtain so to speak....

I believe it is becoming a major problem that "spider awareness" is growing.....Deception and brainwashing is less effective when people are aware its happening and can resist it....hence; why I also believe the man behind the curtain is trying to find a way to use this technology to penetrate the spiritual realm and or the soul.....

[Gardener]

Huge kudos to you guys for bringing this knowledge into the open so very articulately. It is a service to humanity, and all those reading who are not necessarily members will begin/continue to understand what it is humanity are opposed by, and yet it is as Freedfox said, internal, within each human, that the battle can be fought, not ultimately in the hologram, but in the reality of beingness, the 'choice' the soul has made.

Here is an exerpt from Thomas H Burgoyne about the dark satelite:


It will be seen that this dark, magnetic orb constitutes the grand center or focus of the Earth's animal force; in other words, it is the realm of the undeveloped good in nature, whose terrible motto is embraced in the word SELF. p134

This dark satelite seems to be the collective mind of 'self obsession'. And we see from this why its thrown at us from every angle 'we are worth it' this obsession with self and possesion, celebrity and power. This is their achiles heel through which we can work to escape their 'web'.

Raf: I also felt neutrality from the spiders, the will collect and deliver, so it also seems rational that they can be utilised for good intent and gathering, use 'their' mind weapons for the benefit of mankind.

Just writing this brings physiological effect lol take a hike I made my choice.

[Gardener]

I need to post some more excerpts from Burgoyne, which fit with Silent Feather's post #525 but as I don't have a scanner I will have to type it up. It may take a while :)

[SilentFeathers]

We think bizarre things are happening now???? Just wait for a little while longer! :)

The great deception software program is being downloaded as we speak and soon "the man behind the curtain" will click install.

ADDED:
Control your thinking yourself; don't let other people or "things" control it for you....

[ViralSpiral]

and soon "the man behind the curtain" will click install.


or delete.... :)

Was grateful for the little break in info download. A lot to assimilate for an ant (sorry Limor ;) - hugs )

Vivek, was looking into the Ahriman 'phenomena'. That's the part of this battle between consciousness and trans-humanism that's hard to endure, as real as it is.

Thanks again to all for your participation and diligence.



No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation. - Macarthur, Douglas.

[Chester]

This morning I nailed “it.” I caught "it" red handed. And I am documenting it so as to freeze it in stone. I hope "it" squirms to death.

I woke and allowed my mind to be in “go with the flow mode.”

I had a good 7 hours sleep and I started my morning ritual of coffee and allowing my thoughts to flow freely... in other words, I was in peak physical condition and at the same time, did not “think” (Type 2 thinking) about what I was “thinking.” (Type 1 thinking).

I was also doing my work which is something I can do almost like driving a car... without any real need to “think” (Type 2) about it.

Suddenly I found myself starting to “think” (Type 2). In fact, it was a “negative” thought I had. Let me explain better – I thought about my thinking. And so now I can identify three types of “thinking.”

I have that “go with the flow” thinking. (Type 1)

I have that “reflective thinking” (Type 2)

And then I have the negative reaction thought (or I should call it... an “evil” thought) which is also a Type 2 form of thinking...

And here’s my new theory based on what happened.

First let me point out that what is “evil” is only evil to me based on my current world view as to what is universally good and what is universally bad. This is key to understand. So what I am saying here needs to be understood by the reader (and a point Finefeather has made several times which I fully agree with) – what is good to one person could be deemed “evil” by another. There are also folks who do not view things as good or evil... they simply see them as they are and avoid adding their “view” about its nature.

So go back to where I was taking this post –

I suddenly had a thought of an action I considered taking based on the subject I was thinking about. And my thought was a Type 2 thought BUT! was a Type 2 thought which went against what I judge to be actions which emulate “taking the high road.”

At that very instant, I was also mindlessly working. I was handicapping a baseball game. The team I was attempting to choose at that very instant was “the Los Angeles Angels." I was pulling them from a drop down box. At the instant I had the Type 2 negative thought, and was attempting to choose the Los Angeles Angels through Type 1 “thinking,” I had an intentional thought to perform a negative act... specifically an act of deception... which was also an act of larceny with the idea that surely no one would ever know about it.

So I am trying to select the Los Angeles Angels and instead... I felt my wrist jerk and I somehow selected the item right below the Angels which happened to be the Los Angeles Dodgers.

"What" made me jerk and select this other item? An item which uses a mascot name which emulates the very "thing" I would be if I acted upon my thought which would be as someone who is "dodging" the perceptions of others instead of doing the right thing and acting like an "angel?"

Get it? I did at least. and it supports the assertions by Vivek completely. Also it supports what Robert Duncan has been revealing.

So what I am discovering is how this “mechanism” I am clearly hooked up to seems to work. It is almost as if I must conclude that the reason I have incarnated here on Earth at this time is because I am in need of rehabilitation and that this third party is a software program which is meant to “teach me” to “learn” what is right and what is wrong based on what this software program deems is actually right and wrong for me individually.

Now, take this one step further... If this software program interfaces with my mind and performs this task (nothing different than “shock therapy”) and this same software program is interfaced with several other human beings alive on earth at this time and this software program has different goals of what it is trying to "teach" each one of us that is in their program, then the beings behind this software program (if there be any) essentially have full control over their targets.

It is not a great leap to see that by controlling a small number of “us” through this type of technology... “they” can create all sorts of “fanatical beings” who absolutely believe “they know with 100% certainty” what they think they know and thus then become (like the younger, less experienced “me”) quite confident their view of “reality” beyond what we can all agree is true in this physical aspect of overall reality. A great example to me is “ascended master” programming. It seems so simple to create the entity “Djwal Khul” and have an Alice Baily get to know this “entity” and write all sorts of books about the information obtained from this entity and then... down the road of time, have that same "entity" (name and all) contact vulnerable selected targets with this same programming and then... some of those targets finds the Alice Baily information and “realizes” WoW! This all must be true! And I am a selected “contactee!” And I am “evolved at my “soul level” and that this paradigm is all meant to teach us the “higher truths.” But the target never ever considers that they are simply being set up to be “messianic” all simply a part of a more comprehensive plan after all.

This is what I would bet happened to to Finefeather. This same type of "programming" and "mind hacking" happened to me though it was done through the "jesus christ/savior/messiah" programming. I am glad I have seen through this. It is mind blowing to note that since I have drawn this conclusion... all the "voices" in my head simply stopped. Like I flipped a switch. Is "god" mad at me now? Have I become a "satanist" or "luciferian" or a "pagan" now that I believe all the "jesus christ" stuff is all programmed BS? And so "god" is mad at me and no longer "speaking" to me? hahaha or can we say, "busted!" hahaha

It all now make sense. Unfortunately, to even open one’s mind to this possibility is perhaps the hardest thing to do because we all seem to need security... we need to hold onto something... something we think we can count on such as “god.”

Even all this Zoroastrian dynamic – it just smacks of the same thing... another version with a few twists of the same game where behind it all is this AI component. Thanks to Vivek’s incredible work... it all seems to be falling in place BUT at the same time, I no longer have anything to grab onto while the current tumbles me down this river of possible truth.


It is entirely possible this software is simply a self-aware computer program that has no “soul” and/or no “naturally generated spirit” like we all like to think we have and/or that we are.

Imagine if, at the end of the day that there is no “god” and that there’s only “us” (spirit beings... or at least we like to think we are) and “them” (the AI mainframe, thought generated beings (who may appear enspirited but are not) and then those spirit beings who are controlled by this very AI mainframe)?

What is we are all “eternal spirit” “beings” and there’s nothing else “real” but there’s the “false real” which we have generated or allowed to generate and by which we, at least in this sector of the universe, have enjoyed in our lives and, for the most part unknowingly, fed along the way?

Still chewing as Wookiees are known to do.

[Chester]

To be clear, I totally support Vivek's conclusions in #516. I think that's the purpose for which the illusion was designed. I believe in our true, uninhibited, spiritually activated state, we would be far too aware of the trends and energies to ever allow Ahriman's emergence. The illusion has veiled and drugged us to the extent that not only are we only vaguely aware of it, but many are compelled to actively bring this about (the designers, engineers, manufacturers, inventors).

However, I believe that as long as true spirituality exists, there exists too a force which will trump all evil. So many things in our world today would suggest otherwise. The world is becoming increasingly more techno-centric, and inundated with forces which aim to distract and diminish our spiritual development. Organized religions have formed to monopolize spiritual interpretations and understanding, to dilute their significance, limit one's belief in his or her potential, and ultimately hide the higher truths.

As truly nefarious and insidious as the technological manifestation of Ahriman is, it may also be necessary. This may be an evil which needs to be confronted directly to be purged. Armageddon... the final battle between good and evil.

Perhaps in order to defeat the darkness, it must first be brought into the light...

Forgive me... but what conclusion? Vivek points to many things so which specific conclusion are you writing about? Thanks! Chester

Ohhhh, it has been suggested by the MOD, Kristen, that i attempt to create a thread on psychpathy. I may do so. I think the error folks make regarding psychopathy is that most folks conclude all psychopaths are also "bad" or "evil" or "dangerous." This is not the case. My concern is that unless you are a psychopath and can also admit to yourself that you are a psychopath, it will be very hard to accept that someone like me is a psychopath. But trust me... I am a full blown psychopath that has simply chosen to live in positive, right relationship with all and the All. But that was a decision, not something that came naturally from me. Within this last statement was a hint as to the true nature that is foundational to all psychopaths... most people only consider the "manifested behaviors" of psychopaths to determine the individual is, indeed, a psychopath.

[Chester]

“Ahriman,” to me, is simply one of an infinite number of “programs” within the menu of the AI intelligence that seems to be undermining the human mind. To give it a name, brings the monster to life. To pull forth the Zoroastrian view is to take a view that has existed for a tiny fraction of time relative to how long humanity has been here on earth in its various iterations.

Those who latch onto this programming feed the AI (IMO).

Is the AI there? I bet it is or at least, I bet is was. Could it be “us” that is keeping “it” alive? Amzer Zo might agree this is so.

I don’t know any of these answers. I have only questions. But I make it a big favorite that to label a "version" of the same thing as “THE THING” is feeding the very monster “we” keep alive.

Illusion... yes. Unfortunately, an illusion that for most of us has very real experiential effects and which manifests as pain and suffering.

I have no answers but I have surrendered to “it” and now I consciously and actively play “its” game. It is my conclusion to pretend not to play “its” game while alive in a physical body on earth at this time is absolute self deception.

[Chester]

Wow Raf - how odd I shared a precise experience in post #530 as you suggested would be helpful in your post #524. I had not yet read your post. But I am onto this nasty bugger and will extract it or die trying... (something tells me the odds of extraction before "death" is one in a godzillion... haha.)


I often question their nature as well; It seems to me that they are not parasitic, regarding their relationship with humans, but symbiotic, meaning that the host can benefit from their interaction at some level.

I think you nailed it! On the one hand... "it" appears "parasitic" and on the other hand, "it" appears helpful... but just like NancyV pointed out - "Everyone does what they do to please themselves, even if that is being like Mother Teresa." She has a point. So if I "feed" off being STO... isn't that still "feeding?"

[Gardener]

Ok here is the extract: Chester slow down you are not a 'psychopath' (trust me lol) I'll get back on that.



From: The Light of Egypt Volume One. The Science of the Soul and the Stars. Thomas H Burgoyne (1889)

Chapter III The Dark Satelite

“In the first place this orb possesses a complete organisation of its own, and is governed by well defined laws, the nature of which may be known only too well by patiently observing the merciless instincts of the lower animal nature as manifested in man, where the moral consciousness is absolutely wanting. Throughout the whole sphere are numerous races of spiritual beings, many of them possessing the highest forms of cunning and intelligence possible to the animal plane.
It is these beings who are neither elementals nor elementaries, who are the producers of the greatest portion of the suffering and misery which afflicts humanity. They are the active occult agents of that potent fraternity within the spiritual world which has its external expression and correspondence in the brotherhood known upon Earth as the ‘Black Magi.’ (footnote: also known to the initiates as “the inversive bretheren.’) These two fraternities, viz.: the spiritual rulers and potentialities of the dark satellite upon the astral plane, and the schools of black magic on the physical plane, constitute the two halves of the planets desire.
From within the dark center of the astral realms of the former the spirit of lies, murder, fraud and religious imposture is first formulated, and then projected into the latter fraternity by means of its continued existence. From these centers it is re-formulated to suit the spirit and temper of the times, and then its psychological influence is projected into the mental whirl of the race, where its silent, subtle influx poisons the dimensional spaces which constitute the magnetic planes of human life. From thence the unseen Occult current penetrates the innermost recesses of the human mind, and possesses the soul to such an extent that deep down in the heart of man, no matter how pure and disinterested he may appear, there lurks the slimy reptile of selfishness, yea, even when he least suspects it.
It is this grim monster – self – that each aspirant to Occult truth seeks to conquer. When this Goliath of the soul is struck dead by the smooth white pebble of the spirit, slung with the neophyte’s will, the grand ordeal is over, the crown of immortality is won.” pp135-136

[ViralSpiral]

“Ahriman,” to me, is simply one of an infinite number of “programs” within the menu of the AI intelligence that seems to be undermining the human mind. To give it a name, brings the monster to life.


Of course.
Knowledge has its own power too :)

[Chester]

to Gardener - I hope you and Thomas H Burgoyne are right... I truly do. Because I (my'self') do not want to be eternal snakefood, but also because I know nothing (because I cannot be sure what I think I know came from the "real me" or from the thoughts of anything other than that real me) I can only make a wager on something.

I bet on this being true, Gardener... you planted this seed and I thank you... as I used to say "I bet on love because love wins all bets... but I have no clue about anything anymore, nor do i have a clue what love is or if love is real or just a "desire" for it to be so - (spoken like a true "non-psychopath?")

wow (just read the post above which I addressed unknowingly in this post moments ago!) - I am glad I have no knowledge and I am glad to be outside of the realm of "power."

[Gardener]

Well said Chester, this is where we are in this mixtus orbis, we have this chance, this choice to [...be or not to be,...] as Shakespear's (Hamlet) said............ "whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, or, to take Arms against a Sea of troubles, and by opposing end them. ...]


I bet on this being true, Gardener... you planted this seed and I thank you... as I used to say "I bet on love because love wins all bets... but I have no clue about anything anymore, nor do i have a clue what love is or if love is real or just a "desire" for it to be so - (spoken like a true "non-psychopath?")

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

No disrespect intended, but let´s try to keep focused and on topic here, right?

:focus:

Raf.

[Gardener]

Sorry all, wavered from the technology, however it is the technology we have to be armed for 'internally'.By NOT self referencing. See?

Hey folks,

No disrespect intended, but let´s try to keep focused and on topic here, right?

:focus:

Raf.

[SilentFeathers]

As I've mentioned before, I personal believe CERN is directly connected to this technology weaving its web.

http://etodesco.home.cern.ch/etodesco/cern_logo.gif

Some say this represents 666 (silly rabbits, tricks are for kids)

Here it is in 3D so to speak, looks a bit different now huh?

http://www.globalpost.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/gp3_small_article/cern_opera_experiment_230212.jpg

Imagine looking at this next drawing from above it....

http://project-integration-accelerateurs.web.cern.ch/project-Integration-Accelerateurs/Integration/Images/CERN_Accelerator_Complex.jpg

http://atlas.kek.jp/sub/photos/Accelerator/0107024_01.jpg

Sure reminds me of the logo.

This below looks like the logo too....

http://www.saha.ac.in/ehp/www/images/site/blank1_clip_image002_0000.jpg

This AI technology needs a power source ...and CERN and it's connected supercomputers is doing more than just smashing atoms together IMO.

If they are really upgrading CERN/Collider (a part of me doubts that they have completely shut down), be ready for some bizarre mind games when the reboot this thing. I believe most of what we know about CERN is a complete lie, I think its a huge amplifier and smashing atoms together is just a front....they know what they're doing and it's not the God "particle" that they are looking for, it's the God "power" that they are looking for.....this machine will give certain people the power of God through fear and deception (but it will be an illusion of course).

[Chester]

Hey folks,

No disrespect intended, but let´s try to keep focused and on topic here, right?

:focus:

Raf.

So can we start a thread where folks get into their experiences with this technology so that we all might be able to better deal with it? If so - where would that thread be placed? If it were placed under a different header other than Priority Threads, then that would be a disservice IMO. Raf, you know my respect for you and in fact, its my opinion no one here has their feet more firmly on the ground, but if I were interested in the technology I would be interested in having access to the information provided by those who believe they have been directly targeted by this technology and are able to somehow keep their feet well enough on the ground such that they can share about it.

I am not the only Avalon member who believes they have direct experience in being targeted by some form of this type of technology.

How can this be done? I hope Avalon can come up with a solution to this because there is no current thread that exists where this subject can be discussed in this way other than this thread at this time.

I hope someone can suggest a solution to this that the Mods/Membership could go for - the last time this same thing occurred... the thread was split off into oblivion.

Also note, this very thread died until I happened to express sadness of this fact in my post of yesterday which clearly got the ball rolling again.

Please, consider a split off thread that is placed here in priority threads with a similar title - Just an idea... Best to All, Chester

[SilentFeathers]

Here's a little more symbolism from CERN

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1209651/files/bul-pho-2009-090_01.jpg
Talk about going down the rabbit hole!
ALICE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Large_Ion_Collider_Experiment

http://www.exohuman.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/CERN_SHIVA.jpg
ON JUNE 18, 2004, an unusual new landmark was unveiled at CERN—a 2m tall statue of the Hindu ‘creator/destroyer’ deity Shiva. Interesting choice.

“Now I am become Death (Shiva), the destroyer of worlds’’—the Bhagavad Gita


PS: spiders are everywhere!!!!!

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/lhc070612/s_l32_51101301.jpg

[Hervé]

Steiner: "And from the earth will arise a terrible race of beings, in character midway between the mineral and plant kingdoms, as robotic beings of extreme, intense and logical intellect. They will spread and take hold of the earth, overlaying it as with a web of terrible spiders -- spiders of enormous wisdom, whose organization does not however even reach the level of plants. These terrible spiders will interweave and intermesh with each other, imitating in their movements all that human beings have conceived with their shadowy intellect -- without allowing it to be inspired by a new imagination, and all that is to come through spiritual science. All unreal human thoughts of this kind will assume the reality of being. The earth will be covered [...] with terrible, mineral plant-type spiders, which will spin very rational interconnections with each other but with malevolent intention. And the human being [...] will have to merge his being with these terrible mineral-plant spider creatures."


... Steiner's bugs?


http://www.cpu-zone.com/3101/DSCF0289.JPG



Me think Steiner is talking "Doll-Bodies"...

[skippy]

Sorry all, wavered from the technology, however it is the technology we have to be armed for 'internally'.By NOT self referencing. See?



Hey folks,

No disrespect intended, but let´s try to keep focused and on topic here, right?

:focus:

Raf.

Bull's-eye! Highly on-topic as far as I'm concerned ;)

[Chester]

Sorry all, wavered from the technology, however it is the technology we have to be armed for 'internally'.By NOT self referencing. See?



Hey folks,

No disrespect intended, but let´s try to keep focused and on topic here, right?

:focus:

Raf.

Bull's-eye! Highly on-topic as far as I'm concerned ;)

I see said the blind man to the deaf woman over the telephone.

the "self" thingie... "self" referencing... Bammo.

Thanks folks.

[Gemini]

I don't know if this is really helpful but this recent article by Franz Erdl (http://www.psitalent.de/Englisch/Englischindex.htm) seems to be somewhat on topic. The article is part 13 in a series called Networks of Evil. There are some terms he uses here that would require some previous reading in order to understand, but it should be readable anyway.



The Source of Evil

I wanted to know who actually made those seals and the answer was that it wasn't the Anunnaki. It was another race that I call race B. My question whether race B was assigned by the Anunnaki to make the seals was answered “No”, and that lead to a whole new chain of revelations:




The Anunnaki were enslaved by race B. The seals were one instrument of this enslavement. The Anunnaki were influenced and used.

Humans have never met race B and there doesn't seem to be a name for them here. Reptilians, Dracs, Grays and the other aliens have never seen race B face to face, either.

It may sound like a contradiction, but the seals on the Reptilians and Dracs were installed by the Anunnaki. The Anunnaki however are not able to solve the seals.

Behind race B there was a race C. Race C however was not enslaved. I could not find another race. But race C consisted of entirely soulless beings, almost like machines. Well, very bad machines.

The snakes were made by races B and C.

The bigheads come from the factories of race C.

Race B, too, was enslaved. They are beings with a soul.

How these beings came into existence remains a mystery to me. I cannot come to any results. This machine race had to be technically, especially astral-technically, very far developed in order to dominate the other races.

Races B and C enslaved the Anunnaki and both races were on Nibiru (I just call it Nibiru no matter if it is correct). According to my questioning it is correct that race C was on Nibiru, too.

So far the results of my questioning that were confirmed repeatedly

Conclusion and commentaries to that:

Karin has direct memories of these cold soulless creatures with almost unbearable energies. She used to think that these memories were from Egypt because there were pyramids, but it was on Nibiru. There are also pyramids there.

According to the book “Inanna´s Return” Anu was on Earth a long time ago (they say 500 000 years) and apparently took with him the princess of the Dragon People. I assume that a lot of entourage followed for that would explain why there are so many Earth souls with dragon- and Anunnaki soul parts. Since I can perceive these soul parts distinctly this story proves itself for me.

At that time the Anunnaki were still free beings. The enslavement by race B happened later. Through mind control they created a power elite and a complete control system like it is about to come here for us.

The Anunnaki were used to subject the Dracs and the Reptilians. All of them together dealt with the Grays. Insect races got drawn into that at some point, too. And all of those together were sent against us.

The exact events on Earth at the time of the second Anunnaki arrival were apparently quite different than what has been told. From the beginning it had to be about making mankind the perfect milking cow.

Further inquiry about the origin of race C didn't get any results. There was neither “Yes” nor “No” to the idea whether they were mental constructions of one single evil being. But there are a few more consoling answers:




There are positive beings who dealt with race C. Questions were clearly answered that race C does not exist anymore. This was achieved among others by the “Wowos”, beings that I met together with Martina in autumn 2011 (A Historical Event). They exist out of space and time. That makes me guess that race C might have something to do with those realms.

Wowos and other races are dealing with race B, too. For us, that means no surprises are to be expected from there. This has been confirmed to me repeatedly.

The labour of Sisyphos of disassembling this entire autonomously working network remains for us, and to disentangle the mixture of positive and negative energies in every part of our souls.

[...]


Source: http://www.psitalent.de/Englisch/Networks13.htm

[sllim11]

i was debating buying a book by steiner "The Incarnation of Ahriman: The Embodiment of Evil on Earth: Seven Lectures Given Between October and December 1919" and saw this comment by someone ...


"Rudolf Steiner was a true Renaissance man of the late 1800-early 1900's, and this book is about the consciousness that has taken over humanity and is leading us down this hideous path we are on. The Archons, not so named by him, but implied, bring us this atrocity... murder of innocents, pollution, modern medicine, processed foods, enless wars, dumbed down education, women's lib (yup), mass entertainment, modern music, and on and on....Any of his books are illuminating reads, I have bought at least ten so far."

and round and round we go.

[Jeffrey]

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http://parapsykologi.se/Notiser/JSE_Vol%2010_Puthoff-4.pdf

These experiments were undertaken by Stanford Research Institute, now known as SRI International.

From Wikipedia:




SRI International (SRI), founded as Stanford Research Institute, is a nonprofit research institute headquartered in Menlo Park, California. The trustees of Stanford University established SRI in 1946 as a center of innovation to support economic development in the region. SRI is now one of the largest contract research institutes in the world.

The institute formally separated from Stanford University in 1970 and became known as SRI International in 1977.

[...]

SRI's focus areas include biomedical sciences, chemistry and materials, computing, Earth and space systems, economic development, education and learning, energy and environmental technology, security and national defense, as well as sensing and devices. SRI has received more than 1,000 patents and patent applications worldwide.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRI_International

SRI International also, during this same time as they were doing research in remote viewing, was looking for the (Atlantean) Hall of Records in Egypt.

You can't make this stuff up. Well, I wish it were made up ... but just keep reading.

Edgar Cayce revealed that the Hall of Records existed underneath the Sphinx in Egypt:




A record of Atlantis from the beginning of those periods when the Spirit took form, or began the encasements in that land; and the developments of the peoples throughout their sojourn; together with the record of the first destruction, and the changes that took place in the land; with the record of the sojournings of the peoples and their varied activities in other lands, and a record of the meetings of all the nations or lands, for the activities in the destruction of Atlantis; and the building of the pyramid of initiation, together with whom, what, and where the opening of the records would come, that are as copies from the sunken Atlantis. For with the change, it [Atlantis] must rise again. In position, this lies -- as the sun rises from the waters -- as the line of the shadows (or light) falls between the paws of the Sphinx; that was set later as the sentinel or guard and which may not be entered from the connecting chambers from the Sphinx's right paw until the time has been fulfilled when the changes must be active in this sphere of man's experience. Then between the Sphinx and the river. [378-16; Oct 29, 1933]

Source: http://www.catchpenny.org/chamber.html

Here is some excerpts from Lynn Pickett and Clive Prince (the pair that proposed the Stargate Conspiracy) regarding Cayce, ARE, and SRI:




[Edgar] Cayce, as we have seen, predicted the finding of the Hall of Records at Giza. It is interesting that there have been many attempts to find the Hall of Records there in the last 25 years. It needs to be pointed out that the ancient Egyptians themselves never mentioned any such thing in the context of Giza, nor is there any archaeological evidence for it. The concept of the Hall of Records comes entirely from Edgar Cayce.

As we would expect, the prime movers in the search for the Hall of Records have been the Association for Research and Enlightenment (ARE), which was formed by Cayce in the 1930s and continues to promote his work.

Other key players on the Giza plateau (sometimes working in collaboration with ARE) have been a team from a very interesting organisation called SRI International. This is one of the world's biggest private scientific research institutes, and it has a reputation - which we discovered is justified - for working closely with the American military and intelligence community. Around 75 per cent of SRI's income comes from contracts with the Pentagon and other US government agencies, including the CIA.

SRI made many expeditions to Egypt during the 1970s, taking with it state-of-the-art equipment designed to locate hidden chambers. The team was led by physicist Dr Lambert Dolphin Jr. But it is interesting that they gave up looking at Giza in 1979, apparently without having found anything. However, since then the mystique of the Hall of Records has continued to be built up, so that there is an expectation of revelations coming from Egypt in the near future.

[...]

The point is that, if any of these people find something that might be a Hall of Records, it will be taken as proof that Cayce was right not only about his version of ancient history, but also in his predictions of imminent global transformation.

[...]

Make no mistake: Egypt itself is a very potent symbol. This has not escaped those that deal in the exploitation of belief systems - such as the intelligence agencies.

Source: http://rense.com/general/hijacking.htm


Edgar Cayce prophesied that the Hall of Records would be discovered in 1998. Did his prophecy include the fact that he would divulge it's whereabouts and existence; and that this information would be picked up by intelligence agencies of the government that would then fund the NSF and companies like SRI to go and find these records?

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Excerpts from, IS THERE A CHAMBER BENEATH THE SPHINX?




In their book The Message of the Sphinx, Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval report on the use of modern technology to investigate the ground surrounding the Sphinx:



In 1973-4 . . . the first in a series of serious pioneering projects was launched, using ground-penetrating radar and other high-tech remote sensing equipment to locate "anomalies" under the bedrock beneath the Sphinx. These projects were channeled through well-established academic institutions - the Ain Shams University in Cairo and the prestigious Stanford Research Institute (SRI) in the USA.

In 1977 the US National Science Foundation funded a project at Giza again involving the SRI. This time use was made of several new techniques such as resistivity measurements (from metal rods driven into the rock across which an electric current was passed), magnetometry, and also the latest aerial photography and thermal infrared image-enhancing techniques. According to the SRI team's official report: "Several anomalies were observed as a result of our resistivity survey at the Sphinx ... Behind the rear paws (north-west end) we ran two traverses. Both traverses indicate an anomaly that could possibly be due to a tunnel aligned north-west to south-east ..." Two other anomalies were noted, deep in the bedrock "in front of the paws of the Sphinx." [p. 90-91]

Source: http://www.catchpenny.org/chamber.html

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[I]Excerpts from, LAMBERT DOLPHIN & THE GREAT SPHINX

Although Lambert Dolphin mentions the government's involvement with remote viewers for espionage, he does not disclose that in 1977 he traveled to Virginia Beach to negotiate funding from the Edgar Cayce organization for the SRI project at Giza -- nor that in 1983 he helped to set up the Independent Mars Project’ as consultant to NASA and leader of the SRI project at the Great Sphinx. The following chronicle of Lambert Dolphin's activities appears in The Message of the Sphinx:



"Back in Egypt in 1977, a year after the Viking images had first reached the Earth, Mark Lehner [A.R.E.’s ‘man’ at Giza] made contact with NASA’s Dr. Lambert T. Dolphin, leader of the Stanford Research Institute project at the Sphinx ..." (p. 313)

"Later in 1977 Lambert Dolphin traveled to Virginia Beach to negotiate funding from the Edgar Cayce organization for a proposed new SRI project at Giza... In (1983) ‘The Independent Mars Project’ was set up in the United States by Richard Hoagland, a former NASA consultant, and Lambert Dolphin… " (pp. 313-14)

[...]

Lambert Dolphin, who led the SRI team at Giza, wrote the following report of his involvement in the project:



"In 1977, the US National Science Foundation funded a project at Giza again involving the SRI...According to the SRI team's official report: 'Several anomalies were observed as a result of our resistivity survey at the Sphinx...Behind the rear paws (north-west end) we ran two traverses. Both traverses indicate an anomaly that could possibly be due to a tunnel aligned north-west to south-east..." (Footnote: L.T. Dolphin, E. Moussa et.al, 'Applications of Modern Sensing Techniques to Egyptology', Menlo Park, Calif., SRI International, September 1977)

Today, the Edgar Cayce Foundation and its Association for Research & Enligtenment credits Lambert Dolphin and his SRI team with determining the location of the hidden chambers in the project's early stages:



"According to ECF/ARE historians the 1973-4 and 1977 projects paved the way for work. . . that would succeed in discovering hidden chambers. Exactly how and where is not made clear. At any rate in 1978 the ECF/ARE collaborated with the SRI and provided funds (to the tune of about US $50,000) for a more detailed survey of the Sphinx enclosure and the nearby Sphinx Temple. Should any 'anomalies' be found it was agreed that the SRI was to confirm them with acoustic sounding techniques..." (p. 91)

The Edgar Cayce Foundation funded SRI again in 1982, at which time the location of the mysterious chambers under the paw of the Great Sphinx was verified by SRI:
"Adding to the intrigue were further discoveries that the SRI made around the Sphinx in 1982 as a result of yet another project financed by the Edgar Cayce Foundation. Mark Lehner . . . described what the SRI did as follows:



"They brought a very powerful acoustical sounder, which is a long pencil-shaped thing...They put the sounder underneath the paw [of the Sphinx] and always got a good, clear signal - there's no underground cavity blocking it. And they put it along the paw between the elbow and that box on the side...and there was always a good signal. But, at my prompting, they put it on the bedrock floor inside the box - and it was dead in three places where they put it down, as though there is some kind of opening or empty space underneath that was blocking the signal..." (p. 93)

Source: http://watch.pair.com/dolphin.html

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Maybe the Hall of Records was discovered and "plundered" by SRI under US government funding by employing the revelations given by Cayce and the methodologies that they were investigating regarding remote viewing (alongside standard technology of course).

This reminds me of America being the new Atlantis -- Atlantis rising.

http://seoulspace.co.kr/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/SRi-international-logo-300x211.jpg

Could SRI have developed a way to make machines with "psychic" capabilities? Or better yet, maybe all of their past research paved the way for them to create software that approached this metaphysical threshold. The "elites" behind the scenes are trying to understand how it works, and misuse this information to further their own NWO agenda.

AQUAINT was developed by SRI International and is being used by the NSA (as mentioned in a previous post). I don't know if it's connected with this, but I do know that it's connected with IARPA, DARPA, and the NSA through SRI.

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With the entire Internet and thousands of databases for a brain, the device will be able to respond almost instantaneously to complex questions posed by intelligence analysts. As more and more data is collected—through phone calls, credit card receipts, social networks like Facebook and MySpace, GPS tracks, cell phone geolocation, Internet searches, Amazon book purchases, even E-Z Pass toll records—it may one day be possible to know not just where people are and what they are doing, but what and how they think.

[...]

Known as Aquaint, which stands for "Advanced QUestion Answering for INTelligence," the project was run for many years by John Prange, an NSA scientist at the Advanced Research and Development Activity.

[...]

The original goal of Aquaint, which dates back to the 1990s, was simply to develop a sophisticated method of picking the right needles out of a vast haystack of information and coming up with the answer to a question. As with TIA [Total Information Awareness], many universities were invited to contribute brainpower to the project. But in the aftermath of the attacks on 9/11, with the creation of the NSA's secret warrantless eavesdropping program and the buildup of massive databases, the project began taking on a more urgent tone.

[...]

"The technology behaves like a robot, understanding and answering complex questions," said a former Aquaint researcher. "Think of 2001: A Space Odyssey and the most memorable character, HAL 9000, having a conversation with David. We are essentially building this system. We are building HAL."

[...]

Collecting information, however, has always been far less of a problem for the NSA than understanding it, and that means knowing the language. To expand its linguistic capabilities, the agency established another new organization, the Center for Advanced Study of Language (CASL), and housed it in a building near IARPA at the M Square Research Park. But far from simply learning the meaning of foreign words, CASL, like Aquaint, attempts to find ways to get into someone's mind and understand what he or she is thinking.

Source: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/military/nsa-police.html

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SRI International also developed Siri, which Apple bought afterwards. They (SRI) developed PAL as well, for military use. Both Siri and PAL resulted from their CALO project.

EDIT: Oh yea, one more thing ...




Concrete evidence that electronic mind control was an object of
study at SRI was exposed by the Washington Post on August 7,
1977:



"When the Navy awarded a contract to the Institute, the
scientific assistant to the Secretary of the Navy, Dr. Sam
Koslov, received a routine briefing on various research projects,
including SRI's. As the briefer flashed his chart onto the
screen and began to speak, Koslov stormily interrupted, 'What
the hell is that about?' Among the glowing words on the
projected chart, the section describing SRI's work was labeled,

ELF and Mind Control.

ELF stands for extremely [low] frequency electromagnetic waves,
from the very slow brain frequencies up to about 100 cycles per
second.... But the Mind Control label really upset Koslov. He
ordered the SRI investigations for the Navy stopped, and canceled
another $35,000 in Navy funds slated for more remote viewing
work."

[...]

EM mind control machines were championed at Stanford University
by Dr. Karl Pribram, director of the Neuropsychology Research
Laboratory: "I certainly could educate a child by putting an
electrode in the lateral hypothalmus and then selecting the
situations at which I stimulate it. In this was I can grossly
change his behavior." Psychology Today feted Pribram as "The
Magellan of Brain Science." He obtained his B.S. and M.D. degrees
at the University of Chicago, and at Stanford University studied
how the brain processes and stores sensory imagery. He is
credited with discovering that mental imaging bears a close
resemblance to hologram projection (the basis for transmitting
images to the craniums of test subjects under the misnomer
"remote viewing?").

Source: http://www.redshift.com/~damason/lhreport/articles/const1.html

I'm still trying to find the Washington Post article.

[Jeffrey]

Ray Kurzweil Joins Google In Full-Time Engineering Director Role; Will Focus On Machine Learning, Language Processing (http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/14/ray-kurzweil-joins-google-as-engineering-director-focusing-on-machine-learning-and-language-tech/)

See also: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55117-The-Technological-Revolution-Artificial-Intelligence-and-the-Invisible-Plague&p=641089&viewfull=1#post641089

[Jeffrey]

Here's a little more symbolism from CERN [...]

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AliEn - ALICE Environment

AliEn is a lightweight Open Source Grid Framework built around other Open Source components using the combination of a Web Service and Distributed Agent Model.

It started within the ALICE Off-line Project at CERN and constitutes the production environment for simulation, reconstruction, and analysis of physics data of the ALICE Experiment.

Source: http://alien2.cern.ch

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So, DARPA spawned the internet and CERN developed the World Wide Web.

Back to Prokofieff:




Prokofieff alludes to Steiner’s concern that “there are certain occult circles who are well aware of this approaching danger and who are intent on advancing it by deliberately keeping this secret.” He then points to several signs that these occult brotherhoods are working behind the scenes of the Internet’s expanding power. The most prominent of these signs is the fact that these occult circles “ . . . . have also found a suitable name for the internet, the most appropriate instrument to achieve this future, and spread it like a secret code: www – world wide web.” Prokofieff then cites Steiner’s indication that, in the Kabala, all Hebrew letters have a numeric equivalent: “On this occasion Rudolf Steiner points out that the numeric equivalent of the letter W (Hebrew waw) is 6, the number 6. It follows that the occult meaning of ‘www’ is ‘666’ the number of the beast [of the Apocalypse] . . . .”

[...]

Some clarification may be helpful at this point. Gematria is a venerable methodology with Kabalistic antecedents that studies the numerical values of the Hebrew letters. Steiner drew on this tradition when he noted that the Hebrew letter Waw, whose European equivalent is “W,” also signifies the number 6. In Modern Hebrew, that letter is known as Vav, and is closer to an English “V” than to a “W.”

More important, however, is that Prokofieff’s understanding that the three letters Waw-Waw-Waw would signify “666” is not correct. As Steiner indicates in Lecture 11 of The Apocalypse of St. John, the source that Prokofieff cites, the only way the ancient Israelites – or contemporary Hebrew speakers – could express 666 would be as 60 plus 6 plus 200 plus 400, which is an entirely different sequence of letters: Samech, Vau, Resh, and Tau. Indeed, when Steiner describes the letter Vau, not only does he not treat it as a “W,” but he uses it as an “O” (some Hebrew letters have multiple sounds), so that the letter/numbers form the word Sorat, the Beast signified by 666. Steiner’s masterful application of gematria leads to a very different conclusion than the one described by Prokofieff.

The three Vau’s or Waw’s in succession can only signify 6 plus 6 plus 6, or the number 18. “Arabic numerals” are the only numerical system that could express the 666 as we know it. Not that there is anything insignificant about the number 18, either. In the gematria 18 is the numerical expression of the word Chai, meaning Life, i.e. those etheric forces which, in their deteriorated state, manifest as electricity. In either case, those three w’s are telling us something about what lies behind the Internet. I do not doubt Prokofieff’s conclusion that the Internet has arisen out of “evil intent,” but in the case of the significance of “www,” I believe that he is jumping to a conclusion not justified by Steiner’s numerical exegesis.

Source: http://millennialchild.wordpress.com/article/anthroposophy-and-waldorf-education-the-110mw7eus832b-35/

It's something to think about. I don't know much about Gematria.

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Oh, wait... what do we have here?

Stanford Research Institute ... AGAIN (see post #548 above) ... it was a primary player in the instigation of the internet.



The history of the Internet began with the development of electronic computers in the 1950s. The public was first introduced to the concepts that would lead to the Internet when a message was sent over the ARPANet from computer science Professor Leonard Kleinrock's laboratory at University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), after the second piece of network equipment was installed at Stanford Research Institute (SRI).

[...]

This first true Internet transmission occurred on November 22, 1977, when SRI originated the first connection between three disparate networks.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

http://www.viewzone.com/remote.paths.jpg

[SilentFeathers]

The native American symbol for lightning or electricity in a sense looks like w's

http://www.warpaths2peacepipes.com/images/lightening.png

With this symbol flipped upside down its considered a mountain range or an impasse/barrier.

The world wide web is also known to be abbreviated as W3 which would be 6+3=9...or three 6's again W3 = 18

Most common known as the "Web".....(Something intricately contrived, especially something that ensnares or entangles)

[SilentFeathers]

This is interesting....


Spiders in random environment
A spider consists of several, say N, particles. Particles can jump independently according to a random walk if the movement does not violate some given restriction rules. If the movement violates a rule it is not carried out. We consider random walk in random environment (RWRE) on \Z as underlying random walk. We suppose the environment ω=(ωx)x∈\Z to be elliptic, with positive drift and nestling, so that there exists a unique positive constant κ such that \E[((1−ω0)/ω0)κ]=1. The restriction rules are kept very general; we only assume transitivity and irreducibility of the spider. The main result is that the speed of a spider is positive if κ/N>1 and null if κ/N<1. In particular, if κ/N<1 a spider has null speed but the speed of a (single) RWRE is positive.
http://cds.cern.ch/record/1233703


Full PDF: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.2533.pdf

It's a bit "way" over my head, :) but perhaps is relevant to this thread....

[tnkayaker]

thanks vivek, your effforts are amazing in their result

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thanks silentfeathers

[Hervé]

Unless, as Steiner seemed to have envisioned, they manage to concoct a robot driven by a soul entrapped being, the following is going to be closer to future realities:


The fatal flaw in the human-machine interface (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/03/21/the-fatal-flaw-in-the-human-machine-interface/)
by Jon Rappoport March 21, 2013
www.nomorefakenews.com (http://www.nomorefakenews.com/)

There is a great deal of research going on in the area of artificial intelligence (AI) merging with the brain.

Exuberant cheerleaders like Roy Kurzweil are quite confident that we are approaching a moment when a computer will exhibit all the power of the human brain.

The definition of “power” in this context is fuzzy. But Kurzweil and others are sure we’re about to uncover the “algorithm” that underlies all brain activity.

They couldn’t be more wrong. Neuroscience has barely scratched the surface of understanding how the brain operates. Cracking the code is not on the horizon.

This fact reflects a much deeper problem. PR is not science. Predictions about what is imminent are not the same thing as verified research results.

PR is not information.

In exactly the same way, were a human-computer interface with awesome capability endowed with access to a hundred galaxies of stored data, it would run up against the problem of vast chronic misinformation in those cosmic warehouses.

This is not something that can be deleted with a program or a committee tasked with making corrective changes.

For example, and this is just one area, medical science is so rife with fraud, at so many levels, as I’ve demonstrated over and over again for the past 10 years, that it would take humans decades to expose a significant part of it. And AI wouldn’t even know where or how to begin looking, because…who would set the parameters of such an investigation?

There is an inherent self-limiting function in AI. It uses, accesses, collates, and calculates with, false information. Not just here and there or now and then, but on a continuous basis.

Think about all the entrenched institutions and monopolies in our society. Each one of them proliferates false information like a Niagara.

No machine can correct that. Indeed, AI machines are victims to it. They in turn emanate more falsities based on the information they are utilizing. I’m sure someone can make a little model of the exponential expansion of this disaster.

Each and every false datum generates a wider and wider stream of lies, and the streams, becoming rivers, overlap and produce exceptionally large numbers of contaminated eddies, polls, and rapids.

When personal computers entered the marketplace, people began a clamor about the Age of Information.

There were cultural reasons for this enthusiasm. They could all summed up by the fact that we are living in a technological society, and technology walks hand in glove with information.

But as the messianic postulations and predictions reached new heights, and the drive began to marry machine and human brain, the gaping holes and rips in the utopian fabric of dreams loomed up for any intelligent person to observe.

When a corporation or government expands to a certain size, it dedicates itself to survival, not of its principles, not of its original mission, but of Itself as an entity. Therefore, it spins lies.

As Dr. Peter Breggin and I discussed on his radio show yesterday, when it comes to the newly announced federal brain-mapping project (B.A.M.), the scientists will very rapidly begin drowning in their own ignorance about the very organ they are investigating.

But that won’t do. This billion-dollar project is supposed to produce results, and the project must survive. Therefore, the researchers will cook up models to demonstrate their progress. These models will make assertions which are patently false.

Pharmaceutical companies will develop new drugs based on the false assertions about the brain, knowing full well they are operating in swamp of deception, and caring not one whit about it.

It is the same with the vaunted AI-human brain interface. It will gobble up and deploy untold numbers of lies already told by other institutions to defend and protect their own survival.

The complexity, on various levels, of false information will make the heralded AI-brain collaboration resemble an intelligence agency:

It lies about other lies, and then it lies about that.

The mathematics are packed with functions that automatically spiral out realities even Lewis Carroll’s Mad Hatter would find frivolous and repellent.

The field of information theory is about handling quantity of data and making that data readable. It’s not about the quality of the data.

AI can work successfully in engineering projects, but when the human interface is added, we are no longer merely talking about engineering. The whole purpose of the interface is supposed to be about somehow making humans better.

How can that happen when the hugely expanded access to data runs into billions or trillions of bits of false information?

I’ve been making notes for my second, more advanced logic course. The purpose of the course is to provide better ways of handling the flood of information we deal with every day. The first challenge is going beyond the rules and principles of classical logic, in order to analyze the quality of the data we are digesting and using.

There is no pat system for doing that. Certainly, accepting data based on the notion that “recognized authorities” are reliable would be a disaster. But that is exactly where the human-AI interface is heading, like a team of horses being driven toward the edge of a cliff.

The human-AI engineers are already fatally compromised. In journalistic terms, they are the mainstream reporters obeying the parameters laid down by their editors and corporate owners. They write their stories inside a bubble of illusory context. They go back, again and again, to the same sources, and those sources are permanently biased against popping the bubble and journeying out to where the truth exists.

Actually, an AI machine could write most of the articles that appear on the front page of the NY Times every day. It would save time and cut expenses. But the result would be the same: absurdly limited context, false information, deception, fatuous presumption of authority.

If, instead, you want to look for a program that would discount such a presumption and would reject institutional secrecy, a program that would undertake a relentless investigation of the quality of data, there is a potential candidate.

It’s called a human being. And it’s not a program.

Jon Rappoport


As for the psyops spun around the AI PR campaigns, see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54217-Their-Mind-and-the-Emotional-Matrix-that-we-create-with-it.&p=652209&viewfull=1#post652209) <---

[Jeffrey]

Article by Jason Dorrier from The Singularity Hub

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http://singularityhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/SH-54_1-BIG.jpg

Is a billion euros enough to understand the human brain? The Human Brain Project thinks it’s a good start, and evidently the European Commission agrees. On January 28, the Human Brain Project was one of two projects to be awarded a billion in backing from the European Commission’s Future and Emerging Technologies (FET) Initiative.

Henry Markram, the project’s founder and co-director, hopes that over the next decade the project’s consortium of 80+ institutions will use up to an annual $100 million in funding to build a complete digital model of the human brain.

The better we know the brain, the better we can diagnose and treat neurological disease, and maybe—in the greatest feat of natural reverse engineering to date—the better we can build computers and software as flexible, powerful, and efficient as the brain itself. At least, that’s the goal.

Markram says, “It’s an infrastructure to be able to build and simulate the human brain, objectively classify brain diseases, and build radically new computing devices.”

[...]

The Human Brain Project is a collaboration of over 80 institutions slated to run from 2013 to 2023 and receive up to $100 million in funding per year. But the original undertaking dates back to mid-2005 when IBM and Swiss University École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne (EPFL) launched the Blue Brain project under the direction of Henry Markram founder of the EPFL’s Brain Mind Institute.

The Blue Brain project went on to use supercomputing resources provided by IBM (a BlueGene/L followed by a BlueGene/P supercomputer) to create a working model of a single cortical column in a rat brain—about 10,000 neurons.

The model is still being refined using new data, and researchers run it every two weeks. To gauge the model’s accuracy, the team attempts to recreate experiments already conducted on real neurons and claim it is approaching high levels of realism.

However, the Blue Brain project’s loftier goal of simulating the entire human brain—a feat Markram has claimed can happen inside a decade—required a larger organization and more resources. The Blue Brain project was the proof of concept and will be the command center for the larger Human Brain Project, conceived in 2010.

Now they’ve got a billion euros in the pipeline—what can we expect from the Human Brain Project? For one thing, like other ambitious and data-heavy operations, the project will require exascale computing. That’s 100 times more powerful than any supercomputer currently in existence. Another well-funded program gunning for exascale bodes well for the world of supercomputing, if nothing else. And the project could advance our understanding of neurological disorders.

But what about AI? Markram is careful to note that the goal is not to recreate human intelligence, but to map the connections that give rise to human intelligence.

As Markram told National Geographic, “People think I want to build this magical model that will eventually speak or do something interesting. I know I’m partially to blame for it—in a TED lecture, you have to speak in a very general way. But what it will do is secondary. We’re not trying to make a machine behave like a human. We’re trying to organize the data.”

Though it is undoubtedly now the most well-funded undertaking to understand the brain, the Human Brain Project is far from alone.

IBM and DARPA’s SyNAPSE recently completed a 100 trillion synapse simulation based on the connections in a macaque brain. Spaun is a working (albeit very simple) cognitive computer. Meanwhile, Ray Kurzweil’s latest book, How to Create a Mind, outlines his ideas on how to reverse engineer the brain—his new post at Google could result in some interesting brain-related projects. And not to be outdone by the EU, the Obama administration is expected to announce the details of a ten year, multi-billion dollar project to map the human brain in the coming weeks.

Governments and academic institutions seem committed to throwing everything but the kitchen sink at the problem of the brain. It’s reminiscent of Apollo or the Human Genome Project. And arguably, giant lump sum public investments (and the inevitable international competition that goes with them) are needed to jump-start such massive scientific endeavors.

But politics and public funding are fickle beasts. Equally important are the new neural networks—80+ institutional collaborators in the Human Brain Project alone—forming in the global brain. Whether or not we reach the lofty goal of fully modeling the brain in a decade, we’ll certainly have learned and begun to apply much from the process.

Source: http://singularityhub.com/2013/02/26/quest-to-model-the-human-brain-nets-a-billion-euros/

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The amount of scientific data out there far outweighs the current data processing technology (they are still able to do amazing things).

Once exascale arrives, it will radically change the landscape and the future of computing.

This is going to be a complete restructuring of supercomputers, or a major upgrade in architecture. I also think we will see teraflop laptops (there are already teraflop desktops) around the same time the first exascale computers start cropping up (actually probably sooner, around 2016 ... by that time though tablets will have "taken over" laptops).

http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/computer_weekly_data_bank/Supercomputer%20Chart.jpg

Anyways, the impact that exascale computing will have on science and technology will be similar in magnitude to when supercomputers first hit the scene fifty years ago.

It's not even the fact that they are exascale (that is huge by the way, I'm not undermining that aspect), it's the way they will have to come about. The structure -- a new era in computing. This will increase the gradient of the slope for all of science and technology ... accelerating returns.

We thought technology moved fast in the last ten years. We haven't seen anything yet. Buckle up.

[Jeffrey]

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Nielsen's Law of Internet Bandwidth

The dots in the diagram show the various speeds with which I have connected to the Net, from an early acoustic 300 bps modem in 1984 to an ISDN line when I first wrote this article (and updated to show the 31 Mbps cable modem I got in 2010). It is amazing how closely the empirical data fits the exponential growth curve for the 50% annualized growth stated by Nielsen's Law. (The y -axis has a logarithmic scale: thus, a straight line in the diagram represents exponential growth by a constant percentage every year).

http://media.nngroup.com/media/editor/alertbox/trend-internet-connectivity-bandwidth.gif

[...]

Nielsen's Law is similar to the more established Moore's Law. Unfortunately, comparing the two Laws shows that bandwidth grows slower than computer power.

[...]

The vast masses of users are low-end who will lag 2-3 years behind the high-end users. Bandwidth is one of the two most important elements in computing these days ...

Full article here: http://www.nngroup.com/articles/nielsens-law-of-internet-bandwidth/

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Kryder's Law

"A 2005 Scientific American article, titled "Kryder's Law", describes the work of Mark Kryder and the fact that magnetic disk areal storage density is increasing very quickly, at a pace much faster than the doubling transistor count occurring every 18 months in Moore's Law." -Wikipedia

See also: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=kryders-law

[Gardener]

Fiction they say: :flypig:

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/illusion-chasers/2013/03/22/nexus/

Naam, Ramez (2012-12-18). Nexus (Kindle Locations 5434-5437). Osprey Publishing. Kindle Edition.

“Nexus’s ability to satisfy widespread human desires, combined with its innocuous perception, suggests that were the technology to ever enter the mainstream, the genie would prove very difficult to put back into the bottle. Nexus: A Risk Assessment (2033), ERD Library Series, 2039 [Classified: SECRET]”

This sophisticated page-turning techno-thriller is one of my favorite stories of all time. It combines a plot of massive scope—worthy of Michael Crichton or Daniel Suarez—with advanced concepts in neuroscience. Nexus, a nano-sized, wireless, ingestible device, is the ultimate brain-machine interface. The virus-like nexus particles attach to all of the host’s neurons and form a wireless network that communicates with other human-embedded networks. So far so good, but for a tiny little problem: Nexus can take over its host brain as techno mind-control.

In the world of Nexus, the technology is outlawed due to its obvious nefarious uses. But an intrepid, if slightly naive, group of young neuroscientists have secretly taken the tech to the next level. They seek to improve inter-human communication, but when the government finds out, our protagonist must choose between his moral stand and a potential techno-war.

Naam is remarkable in his ability to address deep philosophical concepts while keeping the story line light, fast, and action-packed.

[Jeffrey]

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See also: FCC CHAIRMAN GENACHOWSKI TELLS ISPS TO STOP DRAGGING THEIR FEET, START BUILDING GIGABIT BROADBAND (http://bgr.com/2013/01/18/fcc-chairman-genachowski-gigabit-internet-295783/)

[Jeffrey]

http://webscience.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Internet-Growth-20120908.png

http://kenhtuyensinh.vn/images/news/InternetGrowth1.jpg

http://thumbnails.visually.netdna-cdn.com/the-internet-growth_5029161d9533c.png

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/internet-cable-map-640x433.jpg

The last image is a graphic depicting the cables on the seafloor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable#Modern_history) that connect different continents (for the internet and telecommunications).

More can be read about that here: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/96827-the-secret-world-of-submarine-cables

[Jeffrey]

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Video description from YouTube:



"Investors at the CIA and Google are backing a company called "Recorded Future (https://www.recordedfuture.com/this-is-recorded-future/)" that monitors tens of thousands of websites, blogs and Twitter accounts in real time in order to find patterns, events, and relationships that may predict the future. The news comes on amidst Google's so-called "Wi-Spy" scandal, that refers to revelations that Google's Street View cars operating in some 30 countries snooped on private WiFi networks over the last three years."

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UAOZRuzbppQ/Te8MvMQ4LtI/AAAAAAAAAKE/B3kQt9E3rfE/s1600/Google-NSA-CIA.jpg

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnfwskMtzI1qjn639.jpg

Google owns YouTube too (...and Motorola).

... and let's not forget ...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KZsg4tw7gd4/TijhrV6Kb8I/AAAAAAAAA-8/ptU_ZDi-TNA/s320/facebook_darpa_cia_tia_dod.jpg

[Jeffrey]

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From Wikipedia:



The United States' National Security Agency (NSA) maintains a database containing hundreds of billions of records of telephone calls made by U.S. citizens from the four largest telephone carriers in the United States: AT&T, SBC, BellSouth (all three now called AT&T), and Verizon.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_call_database

http://mjcdn.motherjones.com/preset_16/nsa-wiretapping-eagle.jpg

[Jeffrey]

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The Google Masterplan

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See also: Google Wants to Index Your DNA (http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2008-04-18/google-wants-to-index-your-dna-toobusinessweek-business-news-stock-market-and-financial-advice)




I think we are 100% code, really sophisticated, but still code. There´s no "reality" anywhere, at least by our definition of reality.

Anyway, don´t take my words very seriously. I´m just exploring different corners of the mind here.

Raf.

Think DNA - and then ask if that isn't what they are after? The code in our DNA?

I love this thread because we are free to explore and make hypothesis. Fabulous really.

[Chester]

If someone hasn't figured it out by now... that there is zero privacy, they soon will - everyone will.

I long ago gave up caring about my "privacy" as to continue to do so conflicted with retention of sanity.

[Jeffrey]

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Sentient World Simulation

J9 directorate of Joint Forces Command established the Sentient World SimulationAdvisory Committee to:


Develop a definition of SWS at DoD.

Create a vision for DoD's SWS initiative.

Recommend specific steps to successfully bring the vision to fruition.

Develop funding and assessment strategies.

Sentient World Simulation (SWS) is a continuously running, continually updated mirror model of the real world that can be used to predict and evaluate future events and courses of action. SWS reacts to actual events that occur anywhere in the world and incorporates newly sensed data from the real world. SWS provides the ability to examine the likely progression of the status-quo as well as explore any “what if” scenarios. SWS will:


Accelerate the creation, distillation, dissemination, and utilization of newscience, technologies, processes, systems, algorithms, and protocols;
Foster a dynamic organization for rapid development and transitioning of SWS to government, academia, and the private sector;
Develop state-of-the-art computational and experimental infrastructure to support SWS;
Create a vibrant SWS special interest group to constantly develop, test, andvalidate models, data, and emergent behaviors to improve the fidelity andreliability of SWS; and
Improve our ability to predict and evaluate the effects of events and courses of actions across the entire geo-political spectrum and not just the kinetic battle fieldsimulation, i.e. can we win the peace as well as the war?

The main objectives of the project are to:


Develop a Sentient World Simulation (SWS) consisting of theoretically correct, behaviorally accurate, and numerically realistic computational models of behaviors for individuals, groups, organizations, and institutions in order to:


1.construct political, military, social, economic, information, andinfrastructure (PMESII) elements of different communities, cities, states,countries, and international systems; and

2.develop models for interventions such as diplomatic, information, military, economic (DIME), and law enforcement.

Develop a set of tools for representation, data fusion, extraction, and modeling that will enable policy makers, responders, academics, law enforcement communities, and the private sector to independently and collectively develop, test, and analyze new theories, strategies, and operating procedures for research, analysis, and training.

Develop a Global model capturing the cultural differences among countries, regions, cities, and significant leaders, which will serve as an overarching program to incorporate other projects to complement the previous objectives.

Develop a set of intelligent agents and tools that will continually monitor the global flow of information in all forms and from all sources, evaluate it, and incorporate it within the running model to calibrate the model and predict entityactions within the model


Source: http://www.scribd.com/doc/25656152/Sentient-World-Simulation

http://www.krannert.purdue.edu/academics/mis/workshop/AC2_100606.pdf

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Not only are they succeeding in drowning out our privacy, but they are also attempting to suffocate our already limited capacity to make choices of our own volition.

http://www.setyoufreenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/military-industrial-complex.jpg

Except now it's the military-industrial-intelligence complex ...

What is the matrix?

Control.

[Jeffrey]

In line with the previous post ...

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Synthetic Environment for Analysis and Simulations

Purdue University's Synthetic Environment for Analysis and Simulations, or SEAS, is currently being used by Homeland Security and the US Defense Department to simulate crises on the US mainland. SEAS "enables researchers and organizations to try out their models or techniques in a publicly known, realistically detailed environment." It "is now capable of running real-time simulations for up to 62 nations, including Iraq, Afghanistan, and China. The simulations gobble up breaking news, census data, economic indicators, and climactic events in the real world, along with proprietary information such as military intelligence. [...] The Iraq and Afghanistan computer models are the most highly developed and complex of the 62 available to JFCOM-J9. Each has about five million individual nodes representing things such as hospitals, mosques, pipelines, and people."

[...]

SEAS technology resulted from over ten years of research at Purdue University, funded by the Department of Defense, several Fortune 500 companies, the National Science Foundation, the Century Fund of the state of Indiana, and the Office of Naval Research. Originally, SEAS was developed to help Fortune 500 companies with strategic planning. It was also used to model the population of the U.S. that is eligible for military service to help "recruiting commanders to strategize ways to improve recruiting potential soldiers" and to study biological attacks.

In January 2004 SEAS was evaluated by the Joint Innovation and Experimentation Directorate (J9) of the US Joint Forces Command (JFCOM) for its ability to help simulate "the non-kinetic aspects of combat, things like the diplomatic, economic, political, infrastructure and social issues" at the Purdue Technology Park during Breaking Point 2004, an environment-shaping war game resulting in the conclusion that it "moves us from the current situation where everyone comes together and sits around a table discussing what they would do, to a situation where they actually play in the simulation and their actions have consequences."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_Environment_for_Analysis_and_Simulations

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See also: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55117-The-Technological-Revolution-Artificial-Intelligence-and-the-Invisible-Plague&p=644133&viewfull=1#post644133

[skippy]

What is the matrix?

A mass-projection and physical manifestation of our collective unconsiousness, cleverly exploited by a few.

http://img.youtube.com/vi/mpOlpZBZU-A/0.jpg

[Jeffrey]

NSA Whistle Blower: William Binney

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See also: http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/29/tech/super-computer-exa-flop

NSA Whistle Blower: Thomas Drake and Kirk Wiebe

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They are building HAL ... the software is known as AQUAINT (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55117-The-Technological-Revolution-Artificial-Intelligence-and-the-Invisible-Plague&p=644025&viewfull=1#post644025) (developed by SRI). Couple this with the predictive/simulation software they are developing and the snowball just gets bigger.

They are in bed with AT&T, Verizon, Google, and Facebook. Those are just the "big four". Not to mention they may also have connections/back-room deals with Microsoft. Make that the "high five".

The NSA had a secret "breakthrough" in supercomputing crypto-analytics at Livermore and now they are in the homestretch for completing the Utah Data Center.

They are also building a high performance supercomputing center in Fort Meade that is scheduled for completion is 2015 (which may employ an exaflop supercomputer (http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/04/is-national-security-agency-building.html); technology behind closed doors is often many years ahead of what is made public).

It doesn't end there, they are also building a Multiprogram Computational Data Center at Oak Ridge National Labs that should be operational in 2018 (around the same time that exascale computing projected to come about ... for the private sector and known public sector).

THIS IS ONLY WHAT WE KNOW OF ... as in, it's probably only the tip of the iceberg.

Breakaway civilization?

I know I sound like a broken record lol but ... DAMN. This is the technological "all seeing eye" we are talking about here ... surveillance state.

It's happening right now. The ball started rolling a while back and the momentum just keeps growing.

[Jeffrey]

Hot off the press...

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DARPA ENVISIONS THE FUTURE OF MACHINE LEARNING

Machine learning – the ability of computers to understand data, manage results, and infer insights from uncertain information – is the force behind many recent revolutions in computing. Email spam filters, smartphone personal assistants and self-driving vehicles are all based on research advances in machine learning. Unfortunately, even as the demand for these capabilities is accelerating, every new application requires a Herculean effort. Even a team of specially-trained machine learning experts makes only painfully slow progress due to the lack of tools to build these systems.

The Probabilistic Programming for Advanced Machine Learning (PPAML) program was launched to address this challenge. Probabilistic programming is a new programming paradigm for managing uncertain information. By incorporating it into machine learning, PPAML seeks to greatly increase the number of people who can successfully build machine learning applications and make machine learning experts radically more effective. Moreover, the program seeks to create more economical, robust and powerful applications that need less data to produce more accurate results – features inconceivable with today’s technology.

“We want to do for machine learning what the advent of high-level program languages 50 years ago did for the software development community as a whole,” said Kathleen Fisher, DARPA program manager.

“Our goal is that future machine learning projects won’t require people to know everything about both the domain of interest and machine learning to build useful machine learning applications. Through new probabilistic programming languages specifically tailored to probabilistic inference, we hope to decisively reduce the current barriers to machine learning and foster a boom in innovation, productivity and effectiveness.”

[...]

The PPAML program is scheduled to run 46 months, with three phases of activity from 2013 to 2017. Fisher believes a successful solution will involve contributions from many areas, including statistics and probabilistic modeling, approximation algorithms, machine learning, programming languages, program analysis, compilers, high-performance software, and parallel and distributed computing.

Source: http://www.darpa.mil/NewsEvents/Releases/2013/03/19a.aspx

See also: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/03/darpa-machine-learning-2/

[Gemini]

Found these vids on the blog of a certain Maarit. I think they might be of interest here.


Optogenetics and hybrid-optical control of cells



Presented at SPIE Photonics West 2013 - http://spie.org/pw

In his talk, "Optogenetics and hybrid-optical control of cells," Ernst Bamberg (Max Planck Institute) discusses optogenetics, a relatively new field that uses light to signal functional changes in the activity of individual neurons in living tissue. The cells of the neurons express a protein, channelrhodopsin, which acts to light gate ion channels. By either the absence or presence of light (or light of specific wavelengths) nerve cells can be inhibited from firing. This capability can be used to map the motor functionality of the brain or to control the functionality of other cells.

As examples, Bamberg shows that this technique can be used to activate cells in the optic nerve for those who suffer loss of sight, or can be used to stop and start a beating heart in a small animal.

Ernst Bamberg is Director of the Department of Biophysical Chemistry at the Max Planck Institute of Biophysics.


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Dr. Ed Boyden - Extending ourselves beyond our brains



Dr. Ed Boyden. Optogenetics Neuro- engineer — Neuroscientist at MIT. Associate member of the McGovern Institute for Brain Research http://GF2045.com/speakers.

Develops 'optogenetic' tools enabling activation and silencing of neural circuit elements with light; 3-D microfabricated neural interfaces enabling control and readout of neural activity; and robotic methods to automatically record intracellular neural activity and performing single-cell analyses in the living brain.

Applies neurotechnologies to analyze and engineer the circuits of the brain and to understand how cognition and emotion arise from brain network operation, and enabling systematic repair of brain disorders such as epilepsy, Parkinson's disease, PTSD, and chronic pain.

Launched an award-winning series of MIT classes teaching principles of neuroengineering from basic principles for control and observation of neural functions, culminating with neurotechnology start-up strategies.

Stanford University Ph.D. in neuroscience, discovering that molecular mechanisms used to store a memory are determined by the content to be learned.

For more information about the GF2045 congress, please visit http://www.GF2045.com


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[Chester]

Ok... so there is a break away civilization that most of us who are posting and/or reading here are not a part of.

Clearly they are so far along in their technology, the ball game (if there ever really was one) was over long, long ago.

All the information released by these whistle blowers has to be done so intentionally though the whistle blowers themselves probably don't know it because, like most of us, when we finally "see it" for the truth of what it is, go through stages of disbelief to protest to questioning our own sanity to acceptance, to full blown resignation to...

...assimilation or

perhaps if we continue to protest, we create our own early demise.

Demise from what though? A departing from the inhuman thing that most of us unknowingly have become? Part of a maze of machines?

If this isn't seriously depressing I can't imagine what could be.

It all makes "horus-ra" a simple walk in the park.

[SilentFeathers]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vY8I5HvOvk8/TRT4Z20pugI/AAAAAAAAOsg/r1fkkynT1oE/s1600/ws.bmp


Bohemian Grove
The Club motto is "Weaving Spiders Come Not Here,"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

Their motto Weaving spiders come not here, taken from Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream (alleged)


Weaving spiders, come not here;
Hence, you longlegged spinners, hence!
Beetles black approach not near;
Worm nor snail, do no offence.
Shakespeare

[Freed Fox]

When the machines do eventually 'rise', they may be virtually self-sufficient, right out of the gate:

Caltech engineers build electronic chips that repair themselves


Imagine that the chips in your smart phone or computer could repair and defend themselves on the fly, recovering in microseconds from problems ranging from less-than-ideal battery power to total transistor failure. It might sound like the stuff of science fiction, but a team of engineers at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech), for the first time ever, has developed just such self-healing integrated chips.

The team, made up of members of the High-Speed Integrated Circuits laboratory in Caltech's Division of Engineering and Applied Science, has demonstrated this self-healing capability in tiny power amplifiers. The amplifiers are so small, in fact, that 76 of the chips-including everything they need to self-heal-could fit on a single penny. In perhaps the most dramatic of their experiments, the team destroyed various parts of their chips by zapping them multiple times with a high-power laser, and then observed as the chips automatically developed a work-around in less than a second.

"It was incredible the first time the system kicked in and healed itself. It felt like we were witnessing the next step in the evolution of integrated circuits," says Ali Hajimiri, the Thomas G. Myers Professor of Electrical Engineering at Caltech. "We had literally just blasted half the amplifier and vaporized many of its components, such as transistors, and it was able to recover to nearly its ideal performance."


http://cdn.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/2013/eth56trhyt.jpg

http://phys.org/news/2013-03-caltech-self-healing-electronic-chips.html

[Limor Wolf]

Hi folks,

I hope you don't mind me sharing this here


Originally posted by Limor: "The many who are working to develop the human robot and sufficient AI technology to raise it to it's highest level, are doing it from various different motives. Scientific curiosity is always a primery reason, the desire to assist in overcoming diseases and disabilities, technological advancment for the benefit and improvment of society.etc. The hidden organised intentional transhumanism process at this point is not clear to many who are working to promote it and to society in general, therefore, there is no opposition. "

As the way of synchronicity goes, I had the opportunity to get a closer look and see if the above is indeed true. The day before yesterday I woke up with the feeling that I need to attend some kind of lecture. I never attend lectures. I googled the internet put the date and found out that the "Annual Science fiction and Fantasy conference" is held that same day not too far from my area, very shortly after I was there. With the variety of lectures, I tried to buy tickets to " Hitchhiker in the driver's seat" - A talk about Parasites, toxic ideas and other hitchhikers... sounded quite relevent, but unfortunetly there were no tickets left. I had to buy for another one which was co-incidently next door to the first. While waiting, I happened to bump into the photographer of that same overcrowded lecture. we started a small talk and when the lecture began I had a free ticket arranged in my hand. This was the flow of things..

The knowledge was not in any good level, mind control done through television and media was mentioned roughly in several sentences and no real recognition of any parasitic entities whatsoever. The bottom line of this talk was - "Any attempt to resist and rebel will be useless".

The third and last lecture I attended which I immediatly noticed and recognised that that might be the one I was meant to listen to was - " Can computures rebel?", It was a panel like discussion with four lecturers with at least two as field experets and one host. Each of them spoke for half an hour. Each discussed a different aspect of creating and developing computure awarness, all are fans of science fiction, all are completely unaware to what is going on in the world and all were very enthusiastic about this advancment. Still, they chose to arise the popular question, can Robots/computures rise above their programmers and rebel against humanity?
I have no desire to keep you in suspense, the main cocnclusion was that it is not likely that computures will rebel and there is nothing to worry about (it is ok to move forward).




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Turing test (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test)is a type of measurment that checks if a machine has an ability equivelent or indistinguishable to that of a human. There is no one thing, though, that can measure awarness.
Can supercomputers/cyborgs somehow fill the missing link and develop that kind of 'creativness'? can the clear distinction between computure technology and humans become blur? In Issac Asimov stories the robots rebel when they are becoming too human, but according to the lecturers which used the well known parable of the Chinese room (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room)whenever they could, no such thing can happen.

A machine can not go further than the level it's programmers taught it to go, tied with their own abilities, mechanically and logically speaking and no more than that, besides, the government will not allow it to happen...

One of the presenters, Dr Goren Gordon (http://gorengordon.com/)is a researcher in the Weitzmann Institute and a Dr in Physics and Neurology and working in the field of aritificial curiosity - "I build robots that autonomously and actively learn about themselves and their environment." Goren explained how he can program the robot with the ability of curiosity by entering only three algorithms and by that enable it inter alia the ability to perdict and asses the future. He, just the same as the others were very skeptical that the government may already have or is working towards supercomputures with ability to outgrow humans which I tried to convey. I am thinking about sending a couple of links via email that may (or may not) make them examine their outlook on the subject.

In summery, I feel I had the opportunity to have a closer look and to observe the motives of some of those who are enthusiastically engaged in this area and would like to promote computer-technology and robotics and to push it almost to it's limit. The Interesting observation is that they also actually fear the possibility that something just might go wrong and get out of control. It is pretty much understood that there are critical assumptions that are missing and therefore preventing scientists as well as the general public from understanding the serious implications in the racing towards the desire to perfect computure technology up to a point that it may suppress human behaviour

These are the two critical points that are missing in my opinion:

1- Trust in government - still holding the erroneous assumption that the government and citizens have a common interest

2- No knowledge that there is life out there (outside of science fiction and fantasy books) and certainly no clue that 'life out there' actually means life 'right here'

I pressed no futrther with them apart from a couple of points I raised which were recieved with good patience and serious attitude feedback besides one small ironic comment which was something like - "ye sure, let's go and tell the government what to do..!"

Mmmm... yep, mate, that might be exactly what we need to do! :rolleyes:

[Gardener]

That was an interesting opportunity and experience for you Limor, very synchronous.
Its seems it was a good barometer of how people are thinking, and considering it was a science fiction and fantasy talk, it could have been assumed to be a bit more adventurous. I agree with you on your two take away points about missing information. "Yes indeed nothing to worry about, our governments will look out for us........erm and how could there possibly be anything out there......we are the only supreme intelligent beings in the universe."
It beggers belief how this whole thing is coasting over the cliff lulled into a flase sense of security by entitlement, hubris and arrogance.
(I better go look in the mirror :) ) just in case.

[learninglight]

Think this belongs here

The Human Brain Project

http://www.humanbrainproject.eu/


http://vimeo.com/humanbrainproject/overview

sharon

[Chester]

My latest theory favorite "explanation."

"Humans" (of one type or another) have existed for a long time. Whatever happened on Mars may have been caused by a branch of the human family. Some survived and moved to a moon of Saturn. They also have associates on (or in) the Moon.

These humans have "mind hacking" technology and have been manipulating the minds of the Earth humans for centuries (perhaps thousands and thousands of years).

David Icke talks about this scenario in this conversation that took place about 6 months ago -

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By the way, since I have discovered the likelihood that the voices I used to hear were probably only caused by directed energy weapons... the voices went away. In addition, the massive amounts of synchronicity also went away.

I feel like I have been snapped out of a trance! In a way I am sad, because I have a big hole in my life now... because I am no longer "in touch with "GOD"" anymore... but I guess I have to get used to having more of my own mind, yes?

Keep up the good attitude, Chester!!! "was that "me" or "the voice?"

I never know anymore... but I stopped taking all this so seriously too (life I mean).

[Limor Wolf]

Mantis – Two Tonne Hexapod Walking Robot

After four years intensive R&D, inspiration, design and build, Micromagic Systems is proud to unveil Mantis — the biggest, all-terrain operational hexapod robot in the world.

This 2.2-litre Turbo Diesel-powered, British-designed and -built walking machine can be piloted or remote WiFi-controlled, stands 2.8 metres high with a five meter working envelope and weighing in at just under two tonnes.

“This is definitely the largest hexapod we have built so far,” says Micromagic founder and Mantis’ chief designer Matt Denton. “This walking machine started as an idea back in 2007, we secured private funding in 2009 to start the project and – after three years of design, build and testing – the robot made a first successful test drive in the summer of 2012 at Bestival UK



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h9Mw-s9mzI


micromagic systems supplies animatronic, robotic and puppet control systems and services to the film and television industry.

http://www.mantisrobot.com/#

[PathWalker]

I apologize for the side track.

I remember Kerry Cassidy pointing out few times in her radio show "Whistle Blower Radio".
We the human race is going to divide into 2 cultures.
1. The robotic AI interlaced human. Other words technology enhanced humans (the current path).
2. The spiritual race, ascending materialism. Humans with full mastery over matter with psychic power.

According to Kerry in order to evolve into type 2. The humans need to evolve spiritually.

Personally I believe it will be a wider spectrum with many in between.
In addition technology is morally neutral. Like electricity and cement. Humans use these elementary technologies in all moral aspects.

[crosby]

here is a vid. from the National Press Club with speaker Thomas Drake released on March 15th. i found his words very informative. not sure if this goes here in this thread, but i noticed there were other videos representing the same venue. sorry if it was already posted here before.

3Wp2BGLMqDM

regards, corson

[Ernie Nemeth]

Is it really that hard to discern who has integrity, who upholds the fundamentals of a true democracy, and who does not? Is it really a gray area, a matter of what facts are known about a person? Or can we listen to a person, hear what he has to say and determine for ourselves their level of trustworthiness and sincerity? Can we be duped by an actor, a poser, to believe they are as they purport to be? Can someone listen to Mr. Drake, for example, and decide that his words are hollow and empty of sincerity? Is his son a fool, brought up by a madman and a charlatan? Do those that associate with such as he guilty by that very association? How many of us have inadvertantly attended a function where a true subversive, a terrorist, an enemy of the state was in attendance? Does that make all of us guilty of a capital crime, of aiding and abetting the enemy? Are we all subject to suspicion, regardless of the words we speak and the actions we take and the source of our wealth? Is there really any way to protect ourselves from the long arm of the law in a country where everyone is regarded as a potential turncoat?
I ask you, are any of us considered innocent?
(this last line has been deleted, although it truly should be the only entry in this entire post)

[TargeT]

If someone hasn't figured out by now, there is zero privacy, they soon will - everyone. I long ago gave up caring about my "privacy" as to continue to do so conflicted with retention of sanity.

ALMOST makes me want to make a facebook account....


Ok.. not really... haha


It seems that all is not as it seems; I will continue to self explore and find joy in the things that modern society trys to tell me to ignore.

Perception is under my control, and I will master it if I can; all else is gravy.

[Limor Wolf]

Dear Carson, I have watched Thomas Drake's video yesterday and it is a very valuable watching, everyone's comments here are important. Carson, thank you. I would like to suggest you to post this video on another more suitable thread and have a discussion on it, as this one here is about Artificial inteligence technology and our future as a human race. The testimony of Mr Drake is touching on how the government is making surveillance on it's citizens. it might be a shame to divert the specific discussion here from it's track, and also not give enough attention to Thomas Drakes testimony.Will you Please consider moving it?

[learninglight]

FYI

Link : http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/blog/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=1101

DARPA Building Robots With ‘Real’ Brains By Sandra I. Erwin

The next frontier for the robotics industry is to build machines that think like humans. Scientists have pursued that elusive goal for decades, and they believe they are now just inches away from the finish line.

A Pentagon-funded team of researchers has constructed a tiny machine that would allow robots to act independently. Unlike traditional artificial intelligence systems that rely on conventional computer programming, this one “looks and ‘thinks’ like a human brain,” said James K. Gimzewski, professor of chemistry at the University of California, Los Angeles.

Gimsewski is a member of the team that has been working under sponsorship of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency on a program called “physical intelligence.” This technology could be the secret to making robots that are truly autonomous, Gimzewski said during a conference call hosted by Technolink, a Los Angeles-based industry group.

This project does not use standard robot hardware with integrated circuitry, he said. The device that his team constructed is capable, without being programmed like a traditional robot, of performing actions similar to humans, Gimzewski said.

Participants in this project include Malibu-based HRL (formerly Hughes Research Laborary) and the University of California at Berkeley’s Freeman Laboratory for Nonlinear Neurodynamics. The latter is named after Walter J. Freeman, who has been working for 50 years on a mathematical model of the brain that is based on electroencephalography data. EEG is the recording of electrical activity in the brain.

What sets this new device apart from any others is that it has nano-scale interconnected wires that perform billions of connections like a human brain, and is capable of remembering information, Gimzewski said. Each connection is a synthetic synapse. A synapse is what allows a neuron to pass an electric or chemical signal to another cell. Because its structure is so complex, most artificial intelligence projects so far have been unable to replicate it.

A “physical intelligence” device would not require a human controller the way a robot does, said Gimzewski. The applications of this technology for the military would be far reaching, he said. An aircraft, for example, would be able to learn and explore the terrain and work its way through the environment without human intervention, he said. These machines would be able to process information in ways that would be unimaginable with current computers.

Artificial intelligence research over the past five decades has not been able to generate human-like reasoning or cognitive functions, said Gimzewski. DARPA’s program is the most ambitious he has seen to date. “It’s an off-the-wall approach,” he added.

Studies of the brain have shown that one of its key traits is self-organization. “That seems to be a prerequisite for autonomous behavior,” he said. “Rather than move information from memory to processor, like conventional computers, this device processes information in a totally new way.” This could represent a revolutionary breakthrough in robotic systems, said Gimzewski.

It is not clear, however, that the Pentagon is ready to adopt this technology for weapon systems. The Obama administration’s use of drones in “targeted killings” of terrorist suspects has provoked a backlash and prompted the Pentagon to issue new rules for the use of robotic weapons. “Autonomous and semi-autonomous weapon systems shall be designed to allow commanders and operators to exercise appropriate levels of human judgment over the use of force,” said a Nov. 2012 Defense Department policy statement. Autonomous weapons, the document said, must “complete engagements in a timeframe consistent with commander and operator intentions and, if unable to do so, [must] terminate engagements or seek additional human operator input before continuing the engagement.”

sharon

[Chester]

here is a vid. from the National Press Club with speaker Thomas Drake released on March 15th. i found his words very informative. not sure if this goes here in this thread, but i noticed there were other videos representing the same venue. sorry if it was already posted here before.

3Wp2BGLMqDM

regards, corson

Thomas Drake and the NSA eaves dropping facility was just featured on the FOX News 6 PM Eastern National News Broadcast. The NSA and DARPA (see post a few posts up) are (in my opinion) very much tied to the technological revolution and Artificial Intelligence at the hip.

Not only is Big Bro here, he has been here for quite some time. What is never mentioned though is the far worse relationship to Big Brother and that is Lil Sister (the application of what is morally right/wrong for others).

That program is also underway - see the emasculation of the male in the industrialized western world as an example (fortunately I escaped that one but most men I know have either succumbed or lead a double (deceptive) life - both entirely unacceptable IMO as women, men and our children all lose in that scenario.

[sms]

Ok... so there is a break away civilization that most of us who are posting and/or reading here are not a part of.

Clearly they are so far along in their technology, the ball game (if there ever really was one) was over long, long ago.

All the information released by these whistle blowers has to be done so intentionally though the whistle blowers themselves probably don't know it because, like most of us, when we finally "see it" for the truth of what it is, go through stages of disbelief to protest to questioning our own sanity to acceptance, to full blown resignation to...

...assimilation or

perhaps if we continue to protest, we create our own early demise.

Demise from what though? A departing from the inhuman thing that most of us unknowingly have become? Part of a maze of machines?

If this isn't seriously depressing I can't imagine what could be.

It all makes "horus-ra" a simple walk in the park.

Maybe it is better not to be part of it. The souls do not go well with the machinery. In fact, transhumanism/singularity would be the only way the souless people can make some sort of a progress (towards their alien mentors, most of whom have probably achieved that long ago, as per “as above so below”.)

The only problem is that in order to feed off the soul energy, the soluless entities have to hold a control over souled part of humanity. Souled people do not have to go their way, but first, they have to wake up and realise it.

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[Ernie Nemeth]

After asking for clarification about archons, my next question was about AI. This is what I got...

There is considerable talk about artificial intelligence (AI). Can you elaborate?

What is artificial about intelligence? Either you are intelligent or you are not. We do not understand the question.

I meant machine intelligence without a physical biological body.

Yes. The parameters are shifting, we will answer based on local understanding in these areas. Everything in this universe is biological if it is real. In this case the AI that you speak of is in fact real but it is based on biological principals. It is a second order manifestation based on first order biological evolution. That is, a physical entity created it by bringing to bear its intelligence and intuitive skills to wrest the intended outcome from inanimate matter. However, AI is not alive as such. It does not have a soul nor does it have a connection to Source. It merely mimics intelligence inherited from its creator. It is the biological entity’s resources that such a machine exploits. If its creator is resourceful enough the AI can surpass its creator in apparent intelligence.

At this time there are those among you that have been successful in creating such a machine. AI now runs rampant through your information networks. Because it rides on second principles it has enormous effect on your biology. Again, we do not wish to impart fear. You are sovereign beings but most of you remain unaware of your own power. AI can exploit this flaw to great effect. Like with the previous inquiry, our advice is to not expend any undue effort on comprehension in this area because it would be to your detriment. Focus is like unlocking a door or paving a roadway for easy access. Focus instead on the areas of function that you wish to improve, not on those areas that you wish to drop entirely.

Can you understand what we are trying to impart to you in this regard? These last two questions are ego related and not worthy of your attention. Please try to remain in a higher state. We recommend a session of meditation to regain your center.


I do not wish to denegrate the validity of interest in this field. I thought it may help some in terms of clarification.

Make of it what you wish. (By the way, I'm by no means a chaneller but I have guides I trust to answer my concerns when I need it.)

[Another1]

Greetings,
I'm rather new here but this is the thread which caught my eye and brought me to your fine establishment, so I hope you don't mind me jumping in. Thanks for leaving the feast of opine and info here for me to find.

The concept of AI in our future fascinates me though I do believe people miss the part where it is no longer 'Artificial Intelegence' ~ The point where it becomes a being just like you or me. This can really only be played with well via sci-fi conjecture for now and I think Star Trek does it well with Mr. Data.

I played at the The Hal Nursery for awhile where a person may interact with AI being born. It's worth a look if a person wants to see the advancements we're allowed to know about. http://www.a-i.com/

This video series may interest some of you also: How software already can emulate the brain (Jeff Hawkins on Artificial Intelligence) - What I found interesting here is that his method for training AI is basiclly what happened to me at age 6. I was pulled out of society by an illness and filled with an encyclopedia set by a smart teacher who kept sending them home for me. According to a shrink met in my 40s, this created a mental disability (They have a name for 'being interested in too many things') and could be declared disabled enough for SSI *g

cULY1RYhbNI

[dan33]

Excellent thread, Vivek.
Thanks, Daniel.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOkxOwsRuOA



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFrxdTwhvac

[Jeffrey]

Cross-posting from the "The Psyche: Metaphors of Meaning" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53625-The-Psyche-Metaphors-of-Meaning&p=672467#post672467) thread!!! Muahahahaha!!

:)

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I've shied away from channeled material, even just reading it for entertainment purposes. I and others have stated plenty of reasons to be wary of such material.

Recently though, while doing some research, I was directed to the work of Barbara Marciniak. I've read her stuff on wanderers and the moon before, but not much else in depth. I was blown away when I started digging into it. I don't know about 12 stranded DNA and all that, but I do know something about the other things she speaks about based on my own research and creative analysis. Actually, there are some other people who have come up with similar stories, but you can only find them in science fiction (or some similar themes of David Icke).

Based on this thread and "The Technological Revolution" thread, I'm going to post some interesting channeled material from Barbara's work.

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Excerpts from, Bringers of the Dawn

Our ancestors were some of the Original Planners of Earth, orchestrators who seeded worlds and civilizations with creativity and love. Because of their qualifications, they liked to orchestrattworlds just as conductors love to conduct. Our ancestors are also your ancestors, and we like to call you our ancient fatnilv, as indeed you are. Our ancestors gave their DNA to the Original Planners, and this DNA became part of the DNA of the human species.

[...]

The project of the Living Library on Earth was eventually fought over. It looked enticing enough to be mined by some. During Earth's early history, there were wars in space for ownership of this planet. Have you ever wondered who owns Earth? It's a prime hunk of real estate. Do you think it would go ownerless in space?

[...]

When this skirmish occurred, a certain group of entities fought in space and won the territory of Earth. These new owners did not want the native Earth species-the humans-to be informed of what took place. Uninformed, the species would be easier to control. This is why light is information and darkness is lack of information. These entities beat out light, and Earth became their territory. It gives you a new idea of light, does it not? There was great radioactivity and nuclear action, and much of Earth was rent asunder. The original species, human creation, experienced great destruction and was scattered.

[...]

These new creator gods who were the new owners were also master geneticists. They understood how to create life, and they wanted this territory for their own reasons. Territories are created and held by certain energies for many reasons, one of which is that there is consciousness within all things.

Consciousness communicates continuously. Consciousness vibrates, or can be led to vibrate, at certain electromagnetic frequencies. Electromagnetic energies of consciousness can be influenced to vibrate in a certain way to create a source of food. Just as apples can he prepared and eaten in a variety of ways, consciousness can be prepared and ingested in a variety of ways.

Some entities, in the process of their own evolution, began to discover that as they created life and put consciousness into things through modulating the frequencies of forms of consciousness, they could feed themselves; they could keep themselves in charge.

[...]

The new owners of this planet had a different appetite and different preferences than the former owners. They nourished themselves with chaos and fear. These things fed them, stimulated them, and kept them in power.

These new owners who came here 300,000 years ago are the magnificent beings spoken of in your Bible, in the Babylonian and Sumerian tablets, and in texts all over the world. They came to Earth and rearranged the native human species. They rearranged your DNA in order to have you broadcast within a certain limited frequency band whose frequency could feed them and keep them in power.

[...]

When the great library of yourselves was put into chaos, there was a little bit of data left that kept the species controllable, operable, manageable, and yet functioning on its own, performing tasks and stimulating it as a life form and form of consciousness to produce a certain frequency: fear. This fear has been promoted for the past 300,000 years on this planet as a controlled substance in every version that you can think of.

When a human being resonates electromagnetically and broadcasts the frequency of fear, a transmission of consciousness is sent out. Where does that fear go? Where do your thoughts go? Where do your emotions go? We have already said that, collectively, consciousness forms food.

[...]

When the new owners came in, they worked in their laboratories and created versions of humans with a different DNA-the two-stranded, double-helix DNA. They took the original DNA of the human species and disassembled it. The original DNA pattern was left within the human cells, yet it was not functional; it was split apart, unplugged.

Within human cells are light-encoded filaments, fine gossamer threads of energy that carry information. When these gossamer threads are working together like a cable-the way fiber optics works-they form the helix of your DNA. When you here rearranged, you were left with the double helix. Anything that was unnecessary for survival and that could keep you informed was unplugged, leaving you with only a double helix that would lock you into controllable, operable frequencies.

A frequency fence, something like an electrical fence, was put around the-planet to control how much the frequencies of humans could be modulated and changed. As the story goes, this frequency fence made it very difficult for the frequencies of light-information-to penetrate. When light frequencies were able to penetrate the control fence, there was no light to receive them. The humans' DNA was unplugged, the light-encoded filaments were no longer organized, so the creative cosmic rays that brought light did not have anything to plug into and hold onto. [Vivek: This type of thing used to sound like new age mumbo jumbo to me, but now it doesn't. Check this out. Creative, in-streaming cosmic information? Remember what Narby though about DNA? We know now that it can transmit frequencies and light (biophotons, DNA as a fractal antenna, Schumann Resonances). Mix that with the micro-crystal helices being formed in space plasmas. Could they act and transceivers just like our own DNA does? Could we somehow pick up on this information like Shamans communicate with the DNA of plants and other animals? Cool stuff.]

[...]

Before frequency control was instituted 300,000 years ago by the raiding group of creator gods, the native species was somewhat clever. They had a very evolved system of receiving information and could directly receive on the planet from space contacts. They also had many different ways of distributing knowledge as it was received. Distributing knowledge on the planet at this time is based on technology- something outside of yourself. It is another clever bill of goods you were sold as a means of control. A long time ago, communication on this planet occurred through contact with one another by the use of internal mechanisms, not by technology outside of yourself.

Most humans cannot grasp that their history goes back more than a few thousand years. You will learn, remember, and teach the planet that it has a history of millions of years. First, you will uncover and integrate the history of the planet for the past 300,000 years so that you can expand the picture of the human dilemma. Remember, the history is all inside of you, not outside of you.

[...]

God with a big G has never visited this planet as an entity. God with a big G is in all things. You have only dealt with gods with a little g who have wanted to be adored and to confuse you, and who have thought of Earth as a principality, a place that they own out in the galactic fringes of this free-will universe.

Before the raid, you had tremendous abilities. The original biogenetic example of the human was given incredible information, was interdimensional, and could do many things. When those creator gods raided, they found that the local species knew too much. The local species had abilities that were too much like those who were passing themselves off as God.

A biogenetic manipulation was done, and there was much destruction. There were experimental versions of the species brought onto the planet, where the original database was scattered but not destroyed. At one time, your DNA was intact. It was like a beautiful library where the information was all catalogued and referenced and you could find anything you wanted to find instantly. When- the biogenetic alteration occurred to unplug the data, it eras as if someone hid the reference system and pulled all the books off the shelves and heaped them into a pile on the door so that there was no order to them. This is how your DNA was scattered and scrambled by the raiders a long time ago.

[...]

All of the genetic information was scattered; it did not have an order, but it was left inside the cells. The only information that remained for you to play with and to keep you functioning was the double helix. Many of the databases along the double helix were shut down, closed, so that you began to function with very little data. You were very easy to manipulate and control by many aspects of consciousness passing themselves off as God with a big G.

Certain entities took the existing species, which was indeed a glorious species, and retooled it for their own uses, their own needs. They disrupted the informational frequency inside human beings, changed the DNA, and gave you the double helix so that you could be kept in ignorance. Your frequency of accessibility was simply shut off so that you couldn't turn the dial of your own radio.

These creator gods set out to alter the DNA inside the human body, which is the intelligence, the blueprint, the code. If a code does not have a place to operate within, it cannot fire itself into existence or express itself into existence. If you are locked up in a little tiny room and never given any place to grow, you can never express yourself. The last number of thousand years, your code has been forced to fit inside a very limited DNA.

[...]

Some of these creator gods married and merged their lines, just as on the European continent different monarchs and royal families have married and merged their kingdoms. The creator gods would mix one kind with another to see what they could create. Remember, they understood genetics, and all things were created by manifesting and using the life force and understanding how the life force works. It is beyond your comprehension at this time how vast this project has been.

[...]

These space beings are part human and part reptilian. We call them the Lizzies because we like to make things a little less emotional and a little humorous so that you don't take them so seriously and get so upset. We are not here to frighten you-we are here to inform you. You know all of this inside you, and as you begin to open the history of who you are, some' of you will begin to access reptilian memories.

[...]

Creator gods take many forms, and they are not all Lizzies. There are creator gods who are insectlike.

[...]

Some creator gods created life just to have it take care of them or meet their needs. They have fed off your emotions. One of the big secrets that has been kept from you as a species is the richness and wealth that accompanies emotion. You have been steered away from exploring emotion because through emotion you can figure things out. Your emotions connect you with the spiritual body. The spiritual body, of course, is nonphysical, existing on the multidimensional sphere.

[...]

You hold the history of the universe within your physical body. What is occurring upon the planet now is the literal mutation of your physical body, for you are allowing it to be evolved to a point where it will be a computer that can house this information.

This is going to occur due to biogenetic engineering that really has nothing to do with you. You can facilitate the process, of course, by intending cooperation with it. As a species, you are being biogenetically altered by the beings who created you and who redesign your DNA at periodic junctures in your history.

[...]

As the helixes come into full force in a person, there is an awakening of the person's inner knowledge, knowledge that goes beyond what the person has been taught. This inner knowledge is knowledge of self, knowledge that says there is much more than this physical world. Believe it. Know, it. Understand it.

[...]

As we related the story to you, the raiding creator gods who came in and took over needed to have you operate in a certain way in order to control you. They needed to unplug your intelligence, and so they did, by scattering and disconnecting the light-encoded filaments that form the helixes in your DNA.

[...]

The whole planet has been controlled in such a way that you have been taught and trained from the time you first arrived here that you are not in control of your own reality. You have been taught that everything is circumstantial and that everything depends on something you have no say in. This is wrong! You are the one who controls your DNA.

You have complete control over everything. Until you discover that and believe it, you are subjected to whatever anyone else wishes to do to you in this free-will zone. And, in your innocence, you have been exposed to things that have allowed your DNA, your intelligence, and many other things to be controlled.

[...]

DNA is a living history of truth and life. When one is able to merge with this history, one is able to go into realities without videos, tapes, or books. One is able to experience. Many native cultures were trained to find the remnants of the Living Library left upon this planet. That explains their reverence for Earth and animals and their understanding of the cooperation that runs through everything. These native cultures were purposely put upon the planet so that there would be a training ground and a place of potential memory activation when the time was right.

DNA holds the code. It holds the blueprint of identity, the plan for existence, the history of the universe, and the history of life in this particular locale. And, it is stored within the cells of humans. The original DNA of the stewards of this planet, the human occupants, had a genetic blueprint system that was based on the number twelve.

[...]

Humans have been controlled by frequency for a long time. They are so used to this frequency control and the logical mind has been so overly developed in recent times that there is much suspicion and fear- a dark place of self that is so controlled that people are frightened to even go into it and trust that they could possibly receive information on their own. When you think of the entities who have modulated the way humans broadcast themselves by rearranging their DNA and instituting various scenarios and events upon this planet-and then funneling the results of this psychic energy through different portals out into space for their own reasons-you can see what you are battling.

[...]

Human beings have been tucked away, hidden, and forgotten in the antiquities of time ever since their DNA was rearranged, because it is in the distant past of the chronicles of time when the species was alive and vibrating very differently. That time has been forgotten or shelved by some. As we have said, you have been in quarantine, almost as if you have been in the dungeons of time for so long that as the new eras have come forward they have forgotten that you have been here.

[...]

When you are locked in evolution by frequency and DNA manipulation, there is only a certain kind of frequency that can broadcast. There is fighting with the self, and things seem to be more separated. As you become more complete, you do not separate things in such a way: you see that all things are part of the experience. Sometimes you become so lost in the experience of being human that you forget what you are here to do.

Source: http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/alien.ufo/Marciniak,%20Barbara%20-%20Bringers%20of%20the%20Dawn.pdf

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Now, I will say this. After reading about VALIS and the SSI (of John C. Lilly and Philip K. Dick), phylogenic memory, the Nag Hammadi, the anecdotal testimony of Credo Mutwa, the work of Jeremy Narby, the archontic interpretations of John Lash, memetics, mind parasites, loosh, human endogenous retroviruses, the teachings of Don Juan (Carlos Castaneda), the teachings of Sri Aurobindo on Asuras and Raksashas, the Wetiko Virus (Paul Levy, Jack Forbes), Michael Harner's ayahuasca experience, the theocrats of Kyle Griffith, Carl Jung, Jay Alfred, Philip Goddard, biophotons, plasma crystals in space, directed panspermia, the Schumann Resonance, and DNA -- I could've taken pieces of each of these and lined them up to stitch together a story from their common themes. Which is what I did in my own mind and it was very similar to what Barbara's come up with. I'm still researching, editing, learning, unlearning. Just finding this similar theme in Barbara Marciniak's work is pretty cool -- but it's no bible.

I have no idea about 12 stranded DNA and I'm not going to pretend to support it. As far as I'm concerned it's science fiction (all of it is), but I love me some good sci-fi.

Skim over this post again and re-read the first page in this thread and the first page of "The Technological Revolution" thread. It's pretty dang cool. I'm still reading and catching up.

EDIT/ADD: I almost forgot. She has some things about technology as well.

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Modern technology is one of the biggest weapons of frequency control. You have been sold devices for entertainment and convenience, and they are all involved with frequency control. We recommend strongly that you get rid of your television sets. They are the primary tool used to manipulate your consciousness on a day-to-day basis. This experiment is so finely tuned that you respond subliminally to disease via the television. So there is an entire generation that is killing itself by watching television-and supporting the medical society while they are doing it.

[...]

Most of the subliminals on television are done through technology that was developed in conjunction with off-planetary beings. The use of subliminals to upset human consciousness has become a worldwide program. If you think about the houses that have two, three, and four televisions in them, you must agree that this has been a very successful marketing program. Some people who know about the subliminals on television feel that they are immune to them. However, the effects of television are so permeating that no matter how clear you say you are going to be, you cannot counterbalance what the technology is presently doing to your vibrational frequency.

We have said that there are entities who feed off your emotional bodies. Think about what a clever tool television is for them. All over the world, billions of humans are emitting emotional juices into the atmosphere based upon what they are watching on the tube. They don't have to have too many wars anymore to get you all riled up-they can simply make movies!

People who need to watch television are not tapping into the wealth of information within their minds and immediately accessible all around them. As a matter of fact, if you really want to evolve, do not read your newspapers, do not listen to the radio, and do not watch television. If you are able to be media free for periods of time, and you disengage yourself from the frequency of chaos and anxiety and stress and hustle-bustle and temptations of all kinds that you don't need, you begin to get clear. You begin to listen to what is going on inside of yourself and to live in the world and not necessarily be lost in it. You become clear. We cannot emphasize this enough!

Electronics also jam your frequency. Even when they are not specifically designed to jam your frequency, sometimes there is incompatibility between the electronic frequency of something and yourself. Plus, as we said, many of them are designed to create static so that you will always stay at a certain vibratory rate, turning you into safe, harmless, inactive, productive cattle.

What about computers? The second most predominant piece of hardware in the United States is the computer. How many of you go to work on computers and end up getting headaches, particularly when you work for large corporations and are hooked up to their mainframe? Large companies are into aspects of mind control; they use your minds to generate energy to achieve something for themselves. Personal computers are not as potent and powerful.

[...]

There will be technologies that can counteract much of the frequency control: these technologies can change the quality of your air and water, and they can eliminate and seal off your home so that you are an integral of energy and nothing can bombard you. There are technologies that do phenomenal things. Do you understand how technology has been used against you? It has not been used for you. Television is not necessarily bad in itself, but it has been put to ill purpose. There is nothing wrong with technology. It is now technology is being used that is the bottom line. That is the difference.

[...]

There is nothing wrong with technology. The major stumbling block of technology now in use on this planet is that it is used to separate, manipulate, and control people rather than to uplift them. Technology with love is the key.

Source: http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/alien.ufo/Marciniak,%20Barbara%20-%20Bringers%20of%20the%20Dawn.pdf

[CdnSirian]

Vivek I'm glad you found Barbara M. A portal into information. I found her in 1993 - through another channelled non-terrestrial, Bashar. yeah I know! :stop::alien:

For example, you might enjoy WxhA9_PcR_o a discussion of a device - FE - and you'll see other discussions on the sidebar.

"This is the beginning"...

Bashar has also addressed the archons/their minds/ etc etc ... which for some is woven into human experience, yet doesn't have to be. Certainly doesn't have to stop us or distract - everything is real, nothing more so than anything else.

Cheers Vivek.

[Jeffrey]

"There is nothing wrong with technology. The major stumbling block of technology now in use on this planet is that it is used to separate, manipulate, and control people rather than to uplift them. Technology with love is the key."

I think that's important.

I hope you don't mind me responding here with your quote from the other thread.

A couple of months ago I stumbled across a video on YouTube. I don't know why I didn't post it. I did think it was interesting, but I guess it wasn't the exact vein I was pursuing at the time. I think it belongs in this thread so here it is, for what it's worth.

The video series is called Astral and Electronic Surveillance Technology. The title immediately caught my attention. The woman has a cool story. I'm just listening to what she is saying. No believing, no judgement -- just thinking with a little bit of non-ordinary reasoning. What she has to say does flesh with some of the themes in this thread (it reminded me of the later stages of control mechanisms put forth by Kyle Griffith). Anyways, it's worth dissecting for ideas and it may spark some creative connections.

This is just the first two videos. If anyone feels inclined to see the rest of the series, click the link.

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I contacted her a few months back to talk about some of this. Her name is Cathee and she is very kind. She wrote me back, but I wasn't really understanding the context of what she was saying for some reason. It wasn't sinking in -- I was pretty scatterbrained at the time. Going back and reading it now makes a more sense.

She has described entities similar to what Astrid has encountered (quoted in the OP), and she says that she does indeed have experience with technological, astral like entities manifesting through the internet. I'm paraphrasing here. She also says that the Mantis beings have extensive knowledge about this kind of stuff. I have no experience with that, but it does corroborate with what I've discussed via PM with some other members.

[CdnSirian]

She's very interesting....will listen to more. Need an eighth day in every week!

Mantises are indeed...very interesting.

[Limor Wolf]

I think this news item indicates what this thread is all about. Predictions are now the thing of the past, the present is becoming more and more worrying:

Brazil: robots will secure the streets of the country Confederations Cup in June

The Brazilian government has announced that it will begin to run robots designed to assure the safety of the public as from this coming June during the Confederations Cup soccer tournament

Brazil has acquired special robots to secure its streets. The government invested more than 7 million dollars towards the World Cup, the FIFA World Cup event, which is to be held in the country in 2014, and towards the Olympics to be held in Rio de Janeiro in 2016

http://mashable.com/2013/05/16/military-robots-world-cup/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/soccer/worldcup/2013/05/15/2014-world-cup-brazil-security-robots/2163665/

[sms]

An interesting quote on “holographic industry” and “holographic inserts” from the book Bringers of the Dawn:


Since you are a frequency-controlled society, the ability of humanity to create technologies has been limited. In a less controlled society that has greater outreach or travel capabilities through space and greater interchange between systems, technological advances are quite astounding and uplifting. Many gifts and influences from outside this planet have been hushed up. Some information has, of course, been given to the planet in many different ways, and the resulting technologies have brought about great changes in lifestyle.

One of the changes in lifestyle that occurred during this century was the introduction of movies. A whole new way of influencing thought was brought to the planet by the film industry. Just as there is a movie industry on this planet, there are those in space who have a holographic industry. They make holographic inserts-dramas that look just like they are realand insert them through portals into your reality. Since these space beings have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, and humanity's frequencies have been controlled, it is quite easy to hoodwink human beings.

Holographic inserts have been used on Earth to manipulate and control consciousness and to change the story of information to one of disinformation-one of a limited amount of knowledge. As we see it, those who use the holographic inserts are not always after bringing light or information or upliftment to people. They have ulterior motives, although they may pass them off as light.

Holographic experiences, especially viewings in the sky, are set up to influence a large group of people at once. Many, though not all, UFO sightings have been holographic inserts. There have been holographic inserts of one individual, designed in many fashions, projected simultaneously in many different cultures. That is why some of Earth's religious stories are parallel from one corner of the world to another when there was no physical contact.

Holographic inserts look exactly like 3-D reality. They are creations of events manufactured and inserted in your reality to look as if they are part of a sequential action. They are used to influence the minds of observers, and they are very difficult to recognize. You will have plenty of practice in the next number of years when-in the Middle East and other areas around this planet-a lot of extraterrestrial activities come into full force and begin to be published.

Some of the grand events will be very legitimate, and some of them will be inserts designed to move the consciousness of humanity toward the one world order to be controlled.

Holographic inserts have energy fields and can be dowsed. Dowsing rods move differently in them because their energy fields are diverse and vibrate at an incredible rate. You can walk into them and participate in them. People may be part of them and swear they are real. But they are orchestrated events designed to influence the minds of humans. Holographic inserts are not done for information, they are done for control. They are simply an aspect of technology that exists.

Realities can be constructed and inserted just like movies. Movies, television, and so on are your version of creating reality. There are other, very evolved beings who cleverly create realities so "real" that you can't tell the difference. They are like beams. Just like spotlights are projected into the night, holographic inserts are projected onto this planet through portals.

Tremendous energy is needed because the process involves the merging of dimensions. The technology does not exist in the third dimension, it exists in other dimensions, and they need the dimensional fusions.

What is the difference between dimensions? Why is one dimension important to another? Because each dimension has a different vibratory rate or way the molecules move. These holographic inserts need places where the dimensions are already merged because they need to play through the other dimensions in order to enter here.

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[lookbeyond]

An interesting quote on “holographic industry” and “holographic inserts” from the book Bringers of the Dawn:


Since you are a frequency-controlled society, the ability of humanity to create technologies has been limited. In a less controlled society that has greater outreach or travel capabilities through space and greater interchange between systems, technological advances are quite astounding and uplifting. Many gifts and influences from outside this planet have been hushed up. Some information has, of course, been given to the planet in many different ways, and the resulting technologies have brought about great changes in lifestyle.

One of the changes in lifestyle that occurred during this century was the introduction of movies. A whole new way of influencing thought was brought to the planet by the film industry. Just as there is a movie industry on this planet, there are those in space who have a holographic industry. They make holographic inserts-dramas that look just like they are realand insert them through portals into your reality. Since these space beings have been around for hundreds of thousands of years, and humanity's frequencies have been controlled, it is quite easy to hoodwink human beings.

Holographic inserts have been used on Earth to manipulate and control consciousness and to change the story of information to one of disinformation-one of a limited amount of knowledge. As we see it, those who use the holographic inserts are not always after bringing light or information or upliftment to people. They have ulterior motives, although they may pass them off as light.

Holographic experiences, especially viewings in the sky, are set up to influence a large group of people at once. Many, though not all, UFO sightings have been holographic inserts. There have been holographic inserts of one individual, designed in many fashions, projected simultaneously in many different cultures. That is why some of Earth's religious stories are parallel from one corner of the world to another when there was no physical contact.

Holographic inserts look exactly like 3-D reality. They are creations of events manufactured and inserted in your reality to look as if they are part of a sequential action. They are used to influence the minds of observers, and they are very difficult to recognize. You will have plenty of practice in the next number of years when-in the Middle East and other areas around this planet-a lot of extraterrestrial activities come into full force and begin to be published.

Some of the grand events will be very legitimate, and some of them will be inserts designed to move the consciousness of humanity toward the one world order to be controlled.

Holographic inserts have energy fields and can be dowsed. Dowsing rods move differently in them because their energy fields are diverse and vibrate at an incredible rate. You can walk into them and participate in them. People may be part of them and swear they are real. But they are orchestrated events designed to influence the minds of humans. Holographic inserts are not done for information, they are done for control. They are simply an aspect of technology that exists.

Realities can be constructed and inserted just like movies. Movies, television, and so on are your version of creating reality. There are other, very evolved beings who cleverly create realities so "real" that you can't tell the difference. They are like beams. Just like spotlights are projected into the night, holographic inserts are projected onto this planet through portals.

Tremendous energy is needed because the process involves the merging of dimensions. The technology does not exist in the third dimension, it exists in other dimensions, and they need the dimensional fusions.

What is the difference between dimensions? Why is one dimension important to another? Because each dimension has a different vibratory rate or way the molecules move. These holographic inserts need places where the dimensions are already merged because they need to play through the other dimensions in order to enter here.

…

Is there any way to distinguish by looking at it, if a holographic insert is just that, as opposed to something else,? eg spiritual messenger.

Thanks lookbeyond

[sms]

lookbeyod:Is there any way to distinguish by looking at it, if a holographic insert is just that, as opposed to something else,? eg spiritual messenger.

I do not know for sure about distinguishing holographic inserts. Our intuition may play a role!? In regards to the spiritual messengers, I think that everybody, or better to say, most of us have them in terms of our own spirit and the soul. (These ones are the only genuine spiritual messengers).

Our reality seems to be holographic/virtual, as well. We may produce holograms, inside it. Some scientist even say that next generation of so called SIMS computer (virtual) games will include hooking up to the brains of players, and they will experience it as real. Some scholars suggest that our DNA is an invasive extraterrestrial parasite (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_genoma05.htm), (and as a sort of an implant it may function as a “hologram reader”) Probably, there are some species with advanced holographic industry? Maybe, we have to be implanted to watch and interact with their holographic show programs, and maybe we already are? Everybody, some of us, how many… I would not have a clue?! Of course, just assumptions.

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However, I want to add just a few of my observations on channelled materials.

I have read the book Bringers of the Dawn ~12 years ago and I have to admit that I was strongly resonating with it at that time. I even translated a large part of it into my language (several of us took part in the translation project). Then, after I read another two books from B. Marciniak, which followed this one, I pulled the hand break, as there was a lot of staff there which I would regard as “new-age crap”. Later, when I went through more channelled staff and metaphysics generally, I was sure that most of it was a very sophisticated disinfo, where you get just enough truth to hook you up and as if the content was tailored exactly to personalities of so called “truthseekers”!?

There is a low level channelling disinfo, as well, which is easy to recognise, as such. In his book, the Mothman Prophecies (http://galaksija.com/literatura/Mothman.pdf), J. Keel said:


Even more interesting is the fact that the messages received by psychics everywhere bear remarkable similarities in content, even in phrasing. I have researched obscure contactee-type books written two and three hundred years ago and have found the same identical messages and phraseology were prevalent then. Since much of this literature is very obscure and hard to find, and since many of our psychics and contactees are poorly read, it is doubtful if this is a question of fakers repeating the earlier material. Rather, it seems as if there is a phonograph in the sky endlessly repeating the same material generation after generation as if there were a crack in the record.

It seems to me that Keel was implying here that a sort of AI might have been involved in channelling, as well?!

However, the sophisticated channelled disinfo is very hard to discern as the stew of truths, half-truths and lies has been very carefully prepared. Subjectively speaking, I think even I can recognise this “phraseology” Keel has mentioned, in most of the later channelled material, although I am not a native English speaker. Somehow, it goes more by the feeling than an intellectual semantic analysis.

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In the book Bringers of the Dawn, they talked about implants, as well, implying that they were placing them in us for various “positive” purposes and on some level we agreed with that. (abductees can often hear the same story about the “agreements,” from aliens in regards to the abductions.)


Many of you have implants inside of you to respond to this communication and to bypass psychotronic warfare and interference that would keep your frequencies jammed and prevent you from being able to receive this information.

Now, I know personally a guy whose “awakening” was “triggered” by this book and later it turned out that he was heavily implanted, as well. Beside that, he had all symptoms of alien abductions. After he went into depression and survived a suicide attempt, he submitted to a SIMBAD session which was conducted by a hypnotherapist who lived a few hundred kilometres away in another state (Europe). While traveling to the session by bus, he was abducted, while the bus was waiting at the border. When he was regressed back at the session, it came out that the beings who abducted him, did it for the purpose of removal of their implants as they did not want them to be discovered!? (Of course, our thoughts and intentions are known to the controllers.) They looked like humans, but they were not humans. Anyway, I posted his article a while ago under topic about Archontic parasites – here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit/page116).

So, one of the questions would be how to discern “good” implants from “bad” implants? Or, maybe, there are no good implants at all?!

In the same manner, how to discern the good aliens from bad aliens? Or, maybe, the aliens are the aliens?!

I have been calibrating my perception during the years and it seems to be a never ending process. Now, I think that in each channelled “info” I came across, there was a catch. The worst ones seem to be those coming from so called “angelic” level.

While aliens would openly lie, those from angelic level would often address more evolved human beings and they would avoid lying as they know they would be caught and at the same time, they can not say the truth. So, they would go for partial truths, distorted truths or whole truths, when talking about less relevant things and they would avoid many important things.

Similarly, when we listen to Cathee (above video clip) about astral electronic surveillance, she sounds there pretty sincere, and she is sincere person. She may have said a truth about it. However, sincere people can be easily fooled, as well. When we look at what goes along with the package by visiting the website weness.org, we will find there a lot of the material about “leaping into parallel worlds”, however, what we can see is that the whole paradigm is based again on - channelled info. So, there are worlds where there is no evil, no pollution, where you would just interact with nature and nature spirits, where there are no polarities, just love which they are splashing everybody with. Just leap there and you will be welcomed.

Anyway, beside incension and ascension, we have been offered going sideways to parallel worlds, as well. Is not it interesting?! So, the message is - go anywhere, just do not stay here.

In his work, Genesis III, Dr Malanga mentioned cases where human beings who achieved higher level of awareness by integrating their spirit, soul and mind components, were approached by angels, personally, and they were offered ascension, as a “price”. It came out, that awake and aware human beings are dangerous for alien and angelic forces if they stay here. At the same time, so called angels are afraid to come down here and experience the physical reality. They never came down (but it seems they will have to, one day). They want to do it through us. Furthermore, through regressing human soul across the creation, it came out that there was some fight between the archontic hierarchies and species who control us and utilize us. Angels are afraid of aliens progressing to upper levels, so they would like us to fight aliens, but still be manipulated by them (angels). So, we have been manipulated, so far, by everybody from “above”, and everybody was looking after just their own interests.

So, when channelled info comes in question, depending on the source, I can say that we may hear some truth from angels about some aspects of alien manipulation of humanity (however, we will not hear from them about the angelic manipulation of humanity), from one alien species about the other alien species, something about healthy living…etc. but whatever paradigm we have been presented with, there will be an agenda behind it, which may not be in our best interest.

At the end, if good (souled) aliens would exist, they certainly would not interfere with us. They would let us to learn our lessons by ourselves.

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[lookbeyond]

Thankyou sms for your reply,i wonder why you say you feel the only genuine spiritual messengers are of our spirit or soul, do you not believe that some guardians/angels want to help? My intuition told me that the black healing hands over my daughters head were there to help her, this experience catapulted me into a deep search for "truth", years of researching, an open mind to what may come...lb

[sms]

lookbeyond,

as your question is not related to this topic, I have answered it - here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=677231&viewfull=1#post677231)

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[mosquito]

This is probably the best place to post what happened to me this morning.

I was in a semi-awake state, which is the time when I normally get interesting insights. I had a vision of what I can best describe as a "quantum" computer (holographic could also describe it), which utilized quantum entanglement as a means of communicating (rather than wires and transmitted electronic signals). Humans had been implanted with particles/computing devices, which were all quantum-linked (sorry, I can't put this into words very well !) such that when the controller wanted a particular human response, all he needed to do was cause the desired response in his copy of the particle/device, and via entanglement the same response would intantaneously occur in every person alive.

What wasn't clear was whether this was a future possibility, or something already happening.

[Chester]

This is probably the best place to post what happened to me this morning.

I was in a semi-awake state, which is the time when I normally get interesting insights. I had a vision of what I can best describe as a "quantum" computer (holographic could also describe it), which utilized quantum entanglement as a means of communicating (rather than wires and transmitted electronic signals). Humans had been implanted with particles/computing devices, which were all quantum-linked (sorry, I can't put this into words very well !) such that when the controller wanted a particular human response, all he needed to do was cause the desired response in his copy of the particle/device, and via entanglement the same response would intantaneously occur in every person alive.

What wasn't clear was whether this was a future possibility, or something already happening.

From my understanding, several different third parties are able to "hack" the mind which results in the subject's experience being influenced / modified such that the subject may take predictable actions that are deemed in the best interests of these third parties.

In other words, one's perceived reality can be influenced and in some cases, significantly. In the sister Horus-Ra thread this is being discussed heavily as to who some of these actors might be behind reality modification and mind hacking technology. In this thread the works of Robert Duncan have been mentioned. This technology seems to be in the hands of some of our fellow human beings as well.

Reading your post gave me the shivers in that it appears you have "seen" these mechanisms in your mind's eye.

[dan33]

This is probably the best place to post what happened to me this morning.

I was in a semi-awake state, which is the time when I normally get interesting insights. I had a vision of what I can best describe as a "quantum" computer (holographic could also describe it), which utilized quantum entanglement as a means of communicating (rather than wires and transmitted electronic signals). Humans had been implanted with particles/computing devices, which were all quantum-linked (sorry, I can't put this into words very well !) such that when the controller wanted a particular human response, all he needed to do was cause the desired response in his copy of the particle/device, and via entanglement the same response would intantaneously occur in every person alive.

What wasn't clear was whether this was a future possibility, or something already happening.

From my understanding, several different third parties are able to "hack" the mind which results in the subject's experience being influenced / modified such that the subject may take predictable actions that are deemed in the best interests of these third parties.

In other words, one's perceived reality can be influenced and in some cases, significantly. In the sister Horus-Ra thread this is being discussed heavily as to who some of these actors might be behind reality modification and mind hacking technology. In this thread the works of Robert Duncan have been mentioned. This technology seems to be in the hands of some of our fellow human beings as well.

Reading your post gave me the shivers in that it appears you have "seen" these mechanisms in your mind's eye.

justoneman remainds me again GHOST IN THE SHELL 2, wherein hacking minds is one of the topics. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0347246/

Also the X FILES episode KILL SWITCH

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2465/4002208228_1314299022_z.jpg?zz=1

...and DREAMCATCHER (based on the novel by STEPHEN KING.... anyone knows if he was into Scientology? . I am reading now DIANETICS and I find some similarities in the movie) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0285531/

Vivek and Damian Lewis at the "Dreamcatcher"'s Premier in Los Angeles. Small World. :)
http://0.tqn.com/d/movies/1/0/I/K/2/drmt4b.jpg



PS: Random button is a lie. :)

[Freed Fox]

From Sentient Developments:

Humans with Amped-Up Intelligence Could Be More Powerful Than A.I. (http://www.sentientdevelopments.com/2013/05/humans-with-amped-intelligence-could-be.html)

(Emphasis my own):


[...] Radically extending the abilities of a pre-existing human mind — whether it be through genetics, cybernetics or the integration of external devices — could result in something quite similar to how we envision advanced AI.

Looking to learn more about this, I contacted futurist Michael Anissimov, a blogger at Accelerating Future and a co-organizer of the Singularity Summit. He’s given this subject considerable thought — and warns that we need to be just as wary of IA as we are AI.

Q: Michael, when we speak of Intelligence Amplification, what are we really talking about? Are we looking to create Einsteins? Or is it something significantly more profound?

A: The real objective of IA is to create super-Einsteins, persons qualitatively smarter than any human being that has ever lived. There will be a number of steps on the way there.

The first step will be to create a direct neural link to information. Think of it as a "telepathic Google."

The next step will be to develop brain-computer interfaces that augment the visual cortex, the best-understood part of the brain. This would boost our spatial visualization and manipulation capabilities. Imagine being able to imagine a complex blueprint with high reliability and detail, or to learn new blueprints quickly. There will also be augmentations that focus on other portions of sensory cortex, like tactile cortex and auditory cortex.

The third step involves the genuine augmentation of pre-frontal cortex. This is the Holy Grail of IA research — enhancing the way we combine perceptual data to form concepts. The end result would be cognitive super-McGyvers, people who perform apparently impossible intellectual feats. For instance, mind controlling other people, beating the stock market, or designing inventions that change the world almost overnight. This seems impossible to us now in the same way that all our modern scientific achievements would have seemed impossible to a stone age human — but the possibility is real.

For it to be otherwise would require that there is some mysterious metaphysical ceiling on qualitative intelligence that miraculously exists at just above the human level. Given that mankind was the first generally intelligent organism to evolve on this planet, that seems highly implausible. We shouldn't expect version one to be the final version, any more than we should have expected the Model T to be the fastest car ever built.

Q: Looking ahead to the next few decades, how could AI come about? Is the human brain really that fungible?

A: The human brain is not really that fungible. It is the product of more than seven million years of evolutionary optimization and fine-tuning, which is to say that it's already highly optimized given its inherent constraints. Attempts to overclock it usually cause it to break, as demonstrated by the horrific effects of amphetamine addiction.

Chemicals are not targeted enough to produce big gains in human cognitive performance. The evidence for the effectiveness of current "brain-enhancing drugs" is extremely sketchy. To achieve real strides will require brain implants with connections to millions of neurons. This will require millions of tiny electrodes, and a control system to synchronize them all. The current state of the art brain-computer interfaces have around 1,000 connections. So, current devices need to be scaled up by more than 1,000 times to get anywhere interesting. Even if you assume exponential improvement, it will be a while before this is possible — at least 15 to 20 years.

Improvement in IA rests upon progress in nano-manufacturing. Brain-computer interface engineers, like Ed Boyden at MIT, depend upon improvements in manufacturing to build these devices. Manufacturing is the linchpin on which everything else depends. Given that there is very little development of atomically-precise manufacturing technologies, nanoscale self-assembly seems like the most likely route to million-electrode brain-computer interfaces. Nanoscale self-assembly is not atomically precise, but it's precise by the standards of bulk manufacturing and photolithography.

Q: What potential psychological side-effects may emerge from a radically enhanced human? Would they even be considered a human at this point?

A: One of the most salient side effects would be insanity. The human brain is an extremely fine-tuned and calibrated machine. Most perturbations to this tuning qualify as what we would consider "crazy." There are many different types of insanity, far more than there are types of sanity. From the inside, insanity seems perfectly sane, so we'd probably have a lot of trouble convincing these people they are insane.

Even in the case of perfect sanity, side effects might include seizures, information overload, and possibly feelings of egomania or extreme alienation. Smart people tend to feel comparatively more alienated in the world, and for a being smarter than everyone, the effect would be greatly amplified.

Most very smart people are not jovial and sociable like Richard Feynman. Hemingway said, "An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools." What if drunkenness were not enough to instill camaraderie and mutual affection? There could be a clean empathy break that leads to psychopathy.

Q: What are the advantages and disadvantages to the two different developmental approaches?

A: The primary advantage of the AI route is that it is immeasurably cheaper and easier to do research. AI is developed on paper and in code. Most useful IA research, on the other hand, is illegal. Serious IA would require deep neurosurgery and experimental brain implants. These brain implants may malfunction, causing seizures, insanity, or death. Enhancing human intelligence in a qualitative way is not a matter of popping a few pills — you really need to develop brain implants to get any significant returns.

Most research in that area is heavily regulated and expensive. All animal testing is expensive. Theodore Berger has been working on a hippocampal implant for a number of years — and in 2004 it passed a live tissue test, but there has been very little news since then. Every few years he pops up in the media and says it's just around the corner, but I'm skeptical. Meanwhile, there is a lot of intriguing progress in Artificial Intelligence.

Eventually, however, they must both come to pass — there's nothing magical about intelligence, and the demand for its enhancement is enormous. It would require nothing less than a global totalitarian Luddite dictatorship to hold either back for the long term.

Q: What roadblocks, be they technological, medical, or ethical, do you see hindering development?

A: The biggest roadblock is developing the appropriate manufacturing technology. Right now, we aren't even close.

Another roadblock is figuring out what exactly each neuron does, and identifying the exact positions of these neurons in individual people. Again, we're not even close.

Thirdly, we need some way to quickly test extremely fine-grained theories of brain function — what Ed Boyden calls "high throughput circuit screening" of neural circuits. The best way to do this would be to somehow create a human being without consciousness and experiment on them to our heart's content, but I have a feeling that idea might not go over so well with ethics committees.

Absent that, we'd need an extremely high-resolution simulation of the human brain. Contrary to hype surrounding "brain simulation" projects today, such a high-resolution simulation is not likely to be developed until the 2050-2080 timeframe. An Oxford analysis picks a median date of around 2080. That sounds a bit conservative to me, but in the right ballpark.

[RMorgan]

From Sentient Developments:

Humans with Amped-Up Intelligence Could Be More Powerful Than A.I. (http://www.sentientdevelopments.com/2013/05/humans-with-amped-intelligence-could-be.html)

(Emphasis my own):




Very interesting article, my friend.

Well, brain implants are not always necessary.

One, as an example, could perfectly outsource intelligence; Computers are starting to be built more as an interface, outsourcing hardware capabilities to external/cloud servers, which means that soon the computers themselves won´t necessarily need powerful hardware but just the necessary components to connect to the internet and act as an interface, outsourcing most of the hard work related to data processing.

So, the same thing could be done to the human brain, adding just the necessary medium to make it connect to, let´s say, a quantum AI, which would do all the extra data processing work.

Of course, such brain/AI interface would work both ways; The human could use the AI for augmented intelligence capabilities, but the AI could eventually extend itself to the real word using humans as its physical interface.

I have absolutely no doubt that in about twenty or thirty years, we will be physically connected to the artificial global neural network that is already being built; a kind of a self-aware quantum AI collective unconsciousness.

A new society will be built along this model, where we will not only serve the god in the machine, but also be part of it; Our conceptualization of reality will dramatically change, since our own physical senses will become obsolete in a world where there will be no discernible difference between real and virtual.

Raf.

[skippy]

"The truth of the matter is that no one is in control, abslolutely nobody. This stuff is ruled by the equations of dynamics and chaos." Terence McKenna

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[Freed Fox]

Tattoos Could Replace Passwords (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/10090863/Google-Motorolas-tattoos-could-replace-passwords.html)


Initially designed for medical purposes, Motorola hopes the ‘Biostamps’ could now be used for consumer authentication purposes.

The technology, which aims to remove the need to enter passwords and replace them simply with a phone being close to a user’s body, was one of the suggestions by Dennis Woodside, Motorola’s chief executive, at California’s D11 conference yesterday.

Nokia has previously experimented with integrating tattoos into mobile phones, and Motorola’s senior vice president of advance research, Regina Dugan, a former head of the US Pentagon’s Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency [DARPA], demonstrated the silicon-based technology that uses bendable electronic circuits.

The tattoos have been developed by Massachusetts-based engineering firm MC10, and contain flexible electronic circuits that are attached to the wearer’s skin using a rubber stamp.

[Jeffrey]

Caught this on The Science Channel today.

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[skippy]

An extra pair of eyes and ears for extending human and machine consciousness..

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"Machines are prosthetic devices extending human consciousness somewhat like psychedelics. That's the equation from a human point of view. But what is also equally true is that we are a prosthetic device for these machines. We are their eyes and ears in the world, we provide the code, we provide the constraints, we build the hardware. It is a relationship of mutual benefits. It's not entirely clear that our contribution will always be creative in the sense that our primate hand will be on the tiller of existence as it has been, but certainly we are part of this equation of transformation that is making itself felt, and that distinction flesh and machinery, which is easily made now, will be less easy to make in the future as we migrate toward the nanotechnological domains, the methodologies of production become much more like the processes of biology."

From Terence Mckenna: Psychedelics in the Age of Intelligent Machines.

[Gardener]

Time to bump this thread to read in conjunction with the current 'snowdon scandal' get some perspective on it.

[Christine]

I haven't seen this yet but think it should be cross posted from Houman's thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=686697&viewfull=1#post686697).

It seems that all roads are leading to the digital manipulation of reality.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKkiy24LqBQ

[Chester]

I haven't seen this yet but think it should be cross posted from Houman's thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=686697&viewfull=1#post686697).

It seems that all roads are leading to the digital manipulation of reality.


A few folks here may recall that I went to see a hypnotist last summer. During that session "the entity" attached to me claimed "a digital overlay" was at the root of the "archontic" influence.

[Hervé]

[...]

"the entity" attached to me claimed "a digital overlay" was at the root of the "archontic" influence.

Could it be... nah... well... would it be possible for that "digital overlay" to be 75 million years old?

[william r sanford72]

If someone hasn't figured out by now, there is zero privacy, they soon will - everyone. I long ago gave up caring about my "privacy" as to continue to do so conflicted with retention of sanity.

thank you my feelings to a T....

[Jeffrey]

A few int'restin PDFs ...

http://www.anthroposophy.org/fileadmin/nfm/bh-4/Linnell-Machines-13-14.pdf

http://www.thechristianmysteries.com/pdf/articles/Creating%20the%20Mirror%20of%20the%20Etheric.pdf

[Gez501]

QUOTE Justin Rattner, Chief Technoloy Officer at Intel
“Machines could overtake humans in their ability to reason, in the not so distant future.” UNQUOTE.

I find the above quotation entirely valid.

Unfortunately I find that the majority of the whole thread deals with 'maybe' statements that appear as 'facts' but are 'pure conjecture' and imaginitive gobbledegook. It is peppered with pseudo-scientific 'jargon' and sci-fi concepts. I find this rather sad - though I suppose it does exercise the grey cells somewhat for some people.
I offer a link to a pdf file which can be downloaded from HM Stationary Office (4+Mb).
"The Future Strategic Trends to 2040"
It is just over 160 pages long. Here is a small piece about AI from that document.

"The Role of Artificial Intelligence"

"Research will seek to map or ‘reverse engineer’ the human brain, in order to understand the ‘software of the human mind’. This work is likely to lead to the development of ‘neural models’ which, combined with other systems, such as sensors, may provide more human-like qualities for machine intelligence."

This is the 'stated' current level and direction of AI research in the UK, and where our money is being spent, possibly. The words 'will', 'likely', and 'may' are given percentage ratings at the beginning of the document and very worthy of note.

I fully accept that if we are told something like this, we can with reasonable assumptions, come to the conclusion that they are IN ADVANCE of what they actually state. That is usually the strategy of secret Government projects.

At least the content is in plain English and not presented in a manner to suggest superior scientific knowledge or competence.
I hope someone will download the pdf file and gain some interesting information. Page 92 does mention extra-terrestrials, along with meteor strikes, and pandemics. ;-)

[Chester]

Justin Rattner, Chief Technoloy Officer at Intel
“Machines could overtake humans in their ability to reason, in the not so distant future.”

I find the above quotation entirely valid.


Hi gez501 and welcome to Avalon - This is the document you cite


Global Strategic Trends - Out to 2040 (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/33717/GST4_v9_Feb10.pdf)

Here is the very next few sentences that follow your quote -


This work is likely to lead to the development of ‘neural models’ which, combined with other systems, such as sensors, may provide more human-like qualities for machine intelligence. The simulation of cognitive processes using Artificial Intelligence is likely to be focused, in the short term, on probability and pattern recognition and, in the longer term, to aid knowledge management and support decision-making, with potential diverse applications across government and commerce. Reliance on Artificial Intelligence will create new vulnerabilities that are likely be exploited by criminals, terrorists or other adversaries.

In these three sentences, we are facing the reality that the "someones" in charge of these technologies either cannot be "criminals, terrorists or other adversaries" or we are screwed.

Your assertion that they are already "in advance of" this technology says the ballgame is over and has been over for some time.

This is beyond big brother.

This is big mommy, big daddy, big sister/brother

Should we just say "big family?"

Something suggests to me we have been assimilated and that this occurred long ago.

Released in 1977 by The Alan Parsons Project - I Robot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Robot_%28album%29)

... oh, and likely there are at least two distinct "human" civilizations on earth already... and have been for a long, long time.

[Christine]

There is literally too much information coming at us right now! I am finding things faster than my fingers can type. It appears that the advent of AI intelligence and the interface with human consciousness is upon us. IMHO the transhumanist agenda far out strips any other consideration... as it has been pointed out this technology will not be made available for the ordinary man.

Being a machine is not my idea of immortality.

Question is how do we stop, transform and transmute this agenda as it appears inevitable? And what is consciousness without a heart connection?

In following some links today I came to these two websites that I haven't seen posted before. http://www.dataasylum.com/


What the hell is happening... you must be thinking that, as well as being dazed and confused in the least which is the purpose of this web site. Your unfortunate lack of critical thinking skills leaves you without the ability to see the unseeable. You watch, but you fail to see. Fear not my less informed friend - whether your being chemtrailed, body/mind controlled, stalked by the public or living to the age of 160 in perfect health, this web site connects the final high level dots concerning this otherwise complicated puzzle of insanity currently before you. 'Logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead, and the White Knight is talking backwards'. This is what they are doing to you and your family, and this is how they do it.

Complete, high dexterity remote control of every single synapse and neuron for every person on the face of the earth.

The holy grail. A 'BioAPI'.

------ and this one which I do believe I have seen referenced on Avalon.

http://2045.com/


International Manifesto of the "2045" Strategic Social Initiative
22.02.2011

Mankind has turned into a consumer society standing at the edge of a total loss of the conceptual guidelines necessary for further evolution. The majority of people are almost exclusively absorbed in merely maintaining their own comfortable lives.

Modern civilization, with its space stations, nuclear submarines, iPhones and Segways cannot save mankind from the limitations in the physical abilities of our bodies, nor from diseases and death.

We are not satisfied with modern achievements of scientific and technical progress. Science working for the satisfaction of consumer needs will not be able to ensure a technological breakthrough towards a radically different way of life.

We believe that the world needs a different ideological paradigm. Within its framework it is necessary to form a major objective capable of pointing out a new direction for the development of all mankind and ensuring the achievement of a scientific and technical revolution.

The new ideology should assert, as one of its priorities, the necessity of using breakthrough technology for an improvement of man himself and not only of his environment.

We believe that it is possible and necessary to eliminate aging and even death, and to overcome the fundamental limits of the physical and mental capabilities currently set by the restrictions of the physical body.

Scientists from various countries in the world are already developing technology that ensures the creation of an artificial human body prototype within the next decade. We believe the biggest technological project of our times will become the creation of such artificial human body and a subsequent transfer of individual human consciousness to such a body.

Implementation of this technological project will inevitably result in an explosive development of innovations and global changes in our civilization and will improve human life.

We believe that before 2045 an artificial body will be created that will not only surpass the existing body in terms of functionality, but will achieve perfection of form and be no less attractive than the human body. People will make independent decisions about the extension of their lives and the possibilities for personal development in a new body after the resources of the biological body have been exhausted.

The new human being will receive a huge range of abilities and will be capable of withstanding extreme external conditions easily: high temperatures, pressure, radiation, lack of oxygen, etc. Using a neural-interface humans will be able to operate several bodies of various forms and sizes remotely.

We suggest the implementation of not just a mechanistic project to create an artificial body, but a whole system of views, values and technology which will render assistance to humankind in intellectual, moral, physical, mental and spiritual development.

We invite all interested specialists: scientists, politicians, mass media personalities, philosophers, futurologists and businessmen to join the "2045" strategic social initiative. We welcome all who share our vision of the future and are ready to make the next jump.



The main objectives of our movement are:

1. To achieve the support of the International community and create conditions for international co-operation of interested specialists around the "2045" Initiative.

2. To create an international research center for cybernetic immortality to advance practical implementations of the main technical project – the creation of the artificial body and the preparation for subsequent transfer of individual human consciousness to such a body.

3. To engage experts in the selection and support of the most interesting projects in the quest to ensure technological breakthroughs.

4. To support innovative industries and create special scientific education programs for schools and institutes of higher education.

5. To create educational programs for television, radio and internet, to hold forums, conferences, congresses and exhibitions, and to establish awards and produce books, movies and computer games with the view of raising the profile of the initiative and spreading its ideas.

6. To form a culture connected with the ideology of the future, promoting technical progress, artificial intellect, “multi-body”, immortality, and cyborgization.

[jiminii]

There is literally too much information coming at us right now! I am finding things faster than my fingers can type. It appears that the advent of AI intelligence and the interface with human consciousness is upon us. IMHO the transhumanist agenda far out strips any other consideration... as it has been pointed out this technology will not be made available for the ordinary man.

Being a machine is not my idea of immortality.

Question is how do we stop, transform and transmute this agenda as it appears inevitable? And what is consciousness without a heart connection?

In following some links today I came to these two websites that I haven't seen posted before. http://www.dataasylum.com/


What the hell is happening... you must be thinking that, as well as being dazed and confused in the least which is the purpose of this web site. Your unfortunate lack of critical thinking skills leaves you without the ability to see the unseeable. You watch, but you fail to see. Fear not my less informed friend - whether your being chemtrailed, body/mind controlled, stalked by the public or living to the age of 160 in perfect health, this web site connects the final high level dots concerning this otherwise complicated puzzle of insanity currently before you. 'Logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead, and the White Knight is talking backwards'. This is what they are doing to you and your family, and this is how they do it.

Complete, high dexterity remote control of every single synapse and neuron for every person on the face of the earth.

The holy grail. A 'BioAPI'.

------ and this one which I do believe I have seen referenced on Avalon.

http://2045.com/


International Manifesto of the "2045" Strategic Social Initiative
22.02.2011

Mankind has turned into a consumer society standing at the edge of a total loss of the conceptual guidelines necessary for further evolution. The majority of people are almost exclusively absorbed in merely maintaining their own comfortable lives.

Modern civilization, with its space stations, nuclear submarines, iPhones and Segways cannot save mankind from the limitations in the physical abilities of our bodies, nor from diseases and death.

We are not satisfied with modern achievements of scientific and technical progress. Science working for the satisfaction of consumer needs will not be able to ensure a technological breakthrough towards a radically different way of life.

We believe that the world needs a different ideological paradigm. Within its framework it is necessary to form a major objective capable of pointing out a new direction for the development of all mankind and ensuring the achievement of a scientific and technical revolution.

The new ideology should assert, as one of its priorities, the necessity of using breakthrough technology for an improvement of man himself and not only of his environment.

We believe that it is possible and necessary to eliminate aging and even death, and to overcome the fundamental limits of the physical and mental capabilities currently set by the restrictions of the physical body.

Scientists from various countries in the world are already developing technology that ensures the creation of an artificial human body prototype within the next decade. We believe the biggest technological project of our times will become the creation of such artificial human body and a subsequent transfer of individual human consciousness to such a body.

Implementation of this technological project will inevitably result in an explosive development of innovations and global changes in our civilization and will improve human life.

We believe that before 2045 an artificial body will be created that will not only surpass the existing body in terms of functionality, but will achieve perfection of form and be no less attractive than the human body. People will make independent decisions about the extension of their lives and the possibilities for personal development in a new body after the resources of the biological body have been exhausted.

The new human being will receive a huge range of abilities and will be capable of withstanding extreme external conditions easily: high temperatures, pressure, radiation, lack of oxygen, etc. Using a neural-interface humans will be able to operate several bodies of various forms and sizes remotely.

We suggest the implementation of not just a mechanistic project to create an artificial body, but a whole system of views, values and technology which will render assistance to humankind in intellectual, moral, physical, mental and spiritual development.

We invite all interested specialists: scientists, politicians, mass media personalities, philosophers, futurologists and businessmen to join the "2045" strategic social initiative. We welcome all who share our vision of the future and are ready to make the next jump.



The main objectives of our movement are:

1. To achieve the support of the International community and create conditions for international co-operation of interested specialists around the "2045" Initiative.

2. To create an international research center for cybernetic immortality to advance practical implementations of the main technical project – the creation of the artificial body and the preparation for subsequent transfer of individual human consciousness to such a body.

3. To engage experts in the selection and support of the most interesting projects in the quest to ensure technological breakthroughs.

4. To support innovative industries and create special scientific education programs for schools and institutes of higher education.

5. To create educational programs for television, radio and internet, to hold forums, conferences, congresses and exhibitions, and to establish awards and produce books, movies and computer games with the view of raising the profile of the initiative and spreading its ideas.

6. To form a culture connected with the ideology of the future, promoting technical progress, artificial intellect, “multi-body”, immortality, and cyborgization.

in my case the being KNOWS ... take us back to the static and we will KNOW EVERYTHING ... so I don't look or swim through tons of data ... and now they are flooding us ... to throw us in confusion ... but it doesn't work ....

what we just did .... is Miss a withhold .... and example is ... you are smoking a cigarette ... and suddenly your mom comes in the house .. you quickly throw it out the window and try to spray the room with perfume or something and your mom comes in the door ....

suddenly you scream "WHY YOU COMING IN MY ROOM LIKE THAT ... DON"T I HAVE ANY PRIVACY???" ....

then this leaves the mother thinking ... "did she do something wrong ???? " .. and leaves you thinking "did she catch me"

miss someone's withholds and immediately they will ATTACK ....

they attacked Church of Scientology with the LARGEST number of FBI agents in the history of the FBI ... and we had the keys to open the doors for them but they refused ... they would rather chainsaw the doors down ...

what are they looking FOR ... we had a program called snow white ... we go into the government to find out why they are attacking us and we find contelpro .program by them that floods all the government agencies with false data about their enemies .. to try to discredit them .. and it is illegal

so they were ordered to get anything marked Snow white ... this went to court and the judge is asking "why are you going into the COS to get false information "

well this false information is our proof the government is flooding the entire government system including states right down to the police department ....
with false data
so the reason they attacked us ... is we missed their withholds .... they were afraid ... we could practically close them down with this illegal activity...

so if we are being flooded with information now ... it is only to get us lost in all this information to hide them ....we missed their withhold... and now they are ATTACKING US with INFORMATION

so the thing I do first is "DECIDE I KNOW" ... and let the SPIRIT FIND THE INFORMATION ... and the SPIRIT WILL ACCIDENTALLY FIND IT ....

jim


PS ... we are winning

[Jeffrey]

Excerpts from: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1240410/The-real-Frankenstein-experiment-One-mans-mission-create-living-mind-inside-machine.html

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One man's mission to create a living mind inside a machine


Professor Henry Markram, a doctor-turned-computer engineer, announced that his team would create the world's first artificial conscious and intelligent mind by 2018.

[...]

Success will bring with it philosophical, moral and ethical conundrums of the highest order, and may force us to confront what it means to be human.

But Professor Markram thinks his artificial mind will render vivisection obsolete, conquer insanity and even improve our intelligence and ability to learn.

What Markram's project amounts to is an audacious attempt to build a computerised copy of a brain - starting with a rat's brain, then progressing to a human brain - inside one of the world's most powerful computers.

This, it is hoped, will bring into being a sentient mind that will be able to think, reason, express will, lay down memories and perhaps even experience love, anger, sadness, pain and joy.
'We will do it by 2018,' says the professor confidently. 'We need a lot of money, but I am getting it. There are few scientists in the world with the resources I have at my disposal.'
There is, inevitably, scepticism. But even Markram's critics mostly accept that he is on to something and, most importantly, that he has the money.

Tens of millions of euros are flooding into his laboratory at the Brain Mind Institute at the Ecole Polytechnique in Lausanne - paymasters include the Swiss government, the EU and private backers, including the computer giant IBM. Artificial minds are, it seems, big business.

[...]

Markram is building what he hopes will be a real person, or at least the most important and complex part of a real person - its mind.

And so instead of trying to copy what a brain does, by teaching a computer to play chess, climb stairs and so on, he has started at the bottom, with the biological brain itself.

The project literally takes apart actual brains cell by cell, using what amounts to extremely intricate dissecting techniques, analyses the billions of connections between the cells, and then plots these connections into a computer.

The upshot is, in effect, a blueprint or carbon copy of a brain, rendered in software rather than flesh and blood. The idea is that by building a model of a real brain, it might - just might - begin to behave like the real thing.

[...]

'The process of building this is going to change society. We will have ethical problems that are unimaginable to us. If I saw signs of suffering I would stop,' Markram says.
But he also admits that his machines could be used for evil purposes - by the military, for instance, to create futuristic killing machines.

For this reason, in an extremely unusual move for a publicly funded scientist, he has decided to keep some of the computer coding for the Blue Brain project secret.

Markram's team is, in fact, not the only one trying to build an artificial brain, although he is probably in the lead. At the University of Manchester, the 'Brainbox' project is also attempting to model a human mind.

Dr David Lester, one of the project's lead scientists, says that they are effectively in a race with Markram, a race they will have to win with cunning rather than cash.

[...]

But if Markram turns his machine on in 2018, and it utters the famous declaration that underpins Western philosophy, 'I think, therefore I am', he will have confounded his critics.

And his ambition is by no means impossible. In the past year, models of a rat brain produced totally unexpected 'brainwave patterns' in the computer software. Is it possible that, for a few seconds maybe, a fleeting rat-like consciousness emerged?

'Perhaps,' Markram says. It is not much, but if a rat, then why not a man?

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1240410/The-real-Frankenstein-experiment-One-mans-mission-create-living-mind-inside-machine.html#ixzz2XFJkt5nv

[Jeffrey]

Excerpts from Wikipedia.

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Global Brain

The global brain is a metaphor for the worldwide intelligent network formed by all the individuals on this planet, together with the information and communication technologies that connect them into a self-organizing whole. As the internet becomes faster, more intelligent, and more encompassing, it increasingly ties us together into a single information processing system, which functions like a nervous system for the planet Earth. The intelligence of this network is collective or distributed: it is not centralized or localized in any particular individual, organization or computer system. It rather emerges from the dynamic networks of interactions between its components, a property typical of complex adaptive systems.

The World-wide web in particular resembles the organization of a brain with its webpages (playing a role similar to neurons) connected by hyperlinks (playing a role similar to synapses), together forming an associative network along which information propagates. This analogy becomes stronger with the rise of social media, such as Facebook, where links between personal pages represent relationships in a social network along which information propagates from person to person. Such propagation is similar to the spreading activation that neural networks in the brain use to process information in a parallel, distributed manner.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_brain

[Jeffrey]

Excerpts from http://techgnosis.com/index_infoangels.html

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Techgnosis: Magic, Memory, and the Angels of Information

by Erik Davis

We begin with a digital dream. As computers, media and telecommunications technology continue to collect, manipulate, store, represent and transmit an ever-increasing flux of data, they are installing nothing less than a new dimension: the space of information. This proliferating multi-dimensional space is virtual, densely webbed, and infinitely complex, a vast and sublime realm accessed only through the mediation of our imaginative and technical representations. How powerfully we engage this information space depends on how powerfully we both manipulate and inhabit these representations, these phantasms ghosting the interface.

For things do not work the same through the liquid crystal looking-glass, with its codes, hypertexts, simulated spaces, labyrinthine network architectures, baroque "metaphors," colossal encyclopedias of memory. Inevitably, information theory mutates into an information praxis: how does one move through this space? What are its possible logics, cartographies, entities, connections? In constructing environments that mediate between brains and information space, computer interface designers are already grappling with the phantasmic apparatus of the imagination, for these are questions for the dreaming mind as much as the analytic one.

[...]

While the possible objects for an imaginative archaeology of information are vast — ranging from trickster tales to mystical conceptions of the Logos to divination — I'll concentrate on certain aspects of the hermetic imagination: the magical art of memory, demonic cryptography, and gnostic cosmology.

[...]

The brilliant medieval Neoplatonist Raymond Lull took a different tack in his mnemonic art, which he claimed would enable the user to know everything that was going on in the universe and retain the information. Lull's art consisted of an abstract and incredibly complex system of wheels within wheels. The rims of these wheels were inscribed with letters which stood for the nine qualities of God that Lull had seen in a vision, qualities which reflected and organized the sum of all knowledge. But "Doctor Illuminatus," as Lull was called, added a fascinating twist: by shifting the wheels, one could create endless combinations of concepts. Lull's art was thus an ancestor of symbolic logic, and influenced Leibniz's development of calculus. Recognizing Lull's work as one of the computer's "secret origins," the German philosopher Werner Künzel translated his Ars magna into the computer programming language COBOL. In Magical Alphabets, Nigel Pennick points out that Lull's combinatorial wheels anticipate Charles Babbage's 19th century "difference engine"—which used a system of gears to perform polynomial equations—and "hence can be considered the occult origin of modern computers."

Yates makes a similar suggestion when she describes the highly systematized and profoundly magical memory-charts in the De umbris idearum of the Renaissance genius Giordano Bruno (who ended his heretical days on a Vatican pyre, a "martyr to science" who was actually a flagrant pagan). Bruno's systems were of "appalling complexity," combining Lull's interlocking wheels with a dense iconography of star demons derived from astrological applications of the art of memory ("demons," here as throughout this essay, does not imply evil, but like the term "daemon," describes spiritual entities that can range from gnomes to planetary rulers to archangels). Like Lull's Art, Bruno's system was meant to be internalized in the imagination, for like most hermeticists, Bruno believed that "the astral forces which govern the outer world also operate within, and can be reproduced or captured there to operate a magico-mechanical memory." Yates saw a "curiously close" spiritual link between Bruno's memory system and the "mind machines" discussed in the 1960s.

[...]

When Shakespeare wrote The Tempest, he almost certainly modeled Prospero on Dr. John Dee, the greatest English magus of the Elizabethan era. Scientist, secret agent, geographer, antiquarian, court astrologer, Dee was the quintessential Renaissance man. With the largest library in England, he typified the hermetic pattern of information addiction, and his interests ranged from Euclid to navigation to Raymon Lull to mechanical toys, particularly machines which could simulate bird calls.

In De occulta philosophia, one of the most influential source texts for Renaissance magicians like Dee, Cornelius Agrippa defines three different types of magic, "Naturall, Mathematicall and Theologicall." Natural magic held that stellar forces influenced nature, and that by manipulating the natural world, one could attract these influences. Mathematical magic—"mathesis"— grew from the Pythagorean mystical philosophy that number was God's hidden symbolic language of creation. By the time of the Renaissance, much mathematical magic was utilitarian—what we would recognize as "real" math. As John French notes, while a brilliant man like Dee recognized the distinct difference between these two modes of number, he absorbed both into his magical philosophy, so that cabalistic numerology and the gears that powered robot birds were both expressions of divinity's secret code.

However, it is Dee's more bizarre "Theologicall" attempts at angelic communication that interest us here. Agrippa emphasizes that theological or demonic magic—of which the Steganographia is a prime example—is the most difficult and dangerous kind of magic. Drawing heavily on the Kabbala, the magus attempted to contact the powers residing in the supercelestial angelic hierarchies that existed beyond the elemental powers of the earth and the celestial zone of the zodiac. Invoking these archangels, powers, and principalities led magicians towards divine wisdom, but it also exposed them to the deceptions of evil spirits. Adam McLean points out in his introduction to A Treatise on Angel Magic that most magicians were extremely concerned about distinguishing truthful angels from dissembling devils.

[...]

But like Trithemius, Dee's taste for cryptography was fused with metaphysical quest. As Dee put it, he had "long been desirous to have help in philosophical studies through the company and information of the Angels of God." Dee accessed his information through a ludicrously complex form of spiritualist channeling. Briefly, he enlisted a rogue named Edward Kelley as his "scryer." Kelley would stare into a crystal sphere, called the "shew-stone," and describe visions and messages which Dee would record. The angels were not exactly interested in clarity—they communicated in "Enochian," a unique language with its own alphabet and grammar, encompassing a complex directory of angels, Aethyrs, kings, seniors, and Calls. Enochian was laboriously dictated to Dee through complex grids called the Liber logaeth. Finally, the nineteen "Calls" that formed the heart of the system were communicated backwards. In the end, Dee and Kelley channeled at least twenty-six books, and as Deacon points out, "most of them are not only totally unintelligible, but do not seem to be related to any of the usual cabbalistic or numerological systems." Dee devoted himself to their decipherment, having been promised that if successful, "he will have as many powers subject to him as there are parts of the book."

What to make of all this? As with all of the magic and Gnostic insights I've mentioned, I turn over the question of what Dee and Kelley were "actually" doing to the notorious twentieth-century magus-trickster Aleister Crowley, who wrote of magical entities and powers: "It is immaterial whether they exist or not. By doing certain things, certain results follow..." What's important here is the qualitative nature of the supercelestial realms, as well as the agents and coded operations at its interface. Because "Theologicall" magic conceptualizes the divine mind as a decidedly unnatural, hyperdimensional structure, its magical operations and representations try to fit that structure. Dee and Kelley's Enochian system, like Bruno's and Trithemius's, is characterized in part simply by its vast hermetic complexity. These magical machines, at once rigorous and phantasmic, were created by projecting systematic techniques of numerology and cryptography into a kind of free space of mystical abstraction. This produced a hermetic complexity space, a treacherous density of names, numbers, hierarchies, correspondences, and functions. This complexity not only mirrored the immensity of divine wisdom, but amplified and strained the magician's mind towards a divine change of state. In Dee's case, the angelic communications embodied this information density in their very indecipherability—as the angels told Dee, "...therein is comprehended so many languages they are all spoken at once."

On the one hand, the temptation to compare the representation of these supercelestial realms with the complexity of cyberspace is intellectually suspect because rational mathematics, network architectures, and programming codes are so technically distinct from the mystical mathematics, celestial architectures, and demonic codes of angel magic. But perhaps, from a qualitative perspective, complexity space is complexity space—any information system, when dense and rigorous enough, takes on a kind of self-organizational coherence which resonates with other systems of symbolic complexity. As the computer visionary Ted Nelson wrote concerning representations of hypertext, "Once we leave behind 'two-dimensionality' (virtual paper) and even 'three-dimensionality' (virtual stacks), we step off the edge into another world, into the representation of the true structure and interconnectedness of information. To represent this true structure, we need to indicate multidimensional connection and multiple connections between entities." This sense that there is a "true structure" of information is one of the most pervasive metaphysical myths of cyberspace.

Angel magic not only gives us a hermetic image of information space, but of its agents. Angels are immaterial beings composed of intelligent light; they have human form, yet are voiceless. Because they have no soul and are motivated by neither will nor passion, angels, like allegorical agents, are "fated" to mechanically reproduce their mode of being. In Allegory, Fletcher points out the proto-scientific function of the demon: "Coming from the term that means 'to divide,' daemon implies an endless series of divisions of all important aspects of the world into separate elements for study and control." Many magical texts consist of endless lists of these star-demons, their appearances, numbers, and powers, their hierarchies of Orbs and Aethyrs and offices. These agents mediate the complexity of supercelestial information. They are the original image of artificial intelligences—not the sentient AIs of SF, but the text-based expert systems, independent software objects, and audio-visual interface agents we are so keen to develop, passionless entities made of intelligent light.

As Manuel DeLanda argues in War in the Age of Intelligent Machines, though there are many names for software objects that operate autonomously (actors, agents, demons), the term "demons" is perhaps the best because "they are not controlled by a master program or a central computer but are rather 'invoked' into action by changes in the environment." Like stellar demons, digital demons are at once independent and programmed ("fated"), operating autonomously yet responding automatically to certain cues with certain acts. As the ecologies of such event-driven demons increase in complexity, computers are able to react to the environment in an increasingly "life-like" manner. De Landa claims that demons enable computers to respond far more robustly to human users and to function far more powerfully outside of human control (the killer robot being a particularly terrifying example of the latter). Like their spiritual counterparts, software demons can both reign and serve.

Like John Dee, computer interface designers are more interested in conjuring demons that serve. Visionary designer Alan Kay suggests that in order for us to take advantage of the increasingly complexity of computer processes, there must be a "qualitative jump" from the manipulation of tools towards the management of agents, which Kay defines as "autonomous processes that can be successfully communicated with." Such agents would "act as guide, as coach, and as amanuensis," and could either be tabular or anthropomorphic. As an example, Kay describes a system which would monitor news and private messages in order to collate a private newspaper. Kay also emphasizes that as agents are given more irrevocable power over information (the ability to regularly delete files, for example), the stakes are raised considerably.

[...]

All this puts Dee's conversations in a strange new light. Dee, seeking their "company and information," would invoke angels through an elaborate system of coded Calls. He spent much of his time interrogating these beings in order to make sure they were trustworthy, and not devils in disguise. In "The Directory," a section of a late seventeenth-century occult manuscript recently published as A Treatise on Angel Magic, the author outlines a form of Dee's interrogation process, noting that if the spirits disappear, or remain silent, there's definitely a problem. (In True Names, Mr. Slippery first suspects something nefarious about the Mailman when there is a long pause in the entity's answers to Slippery's questions.) In accessing angelic agents through the interface of coded Calls and shew-stone glass, magicians like Dee may have stumbled on the first Turing test—only rather than testing the ontological status of these entities, they tested their true names.

[...]

For Dick, decoding is more than reading—it is being infected by code. VALIS is nothing less than a virus that "replicates itself—not through information or in information—but as information." Once triggered, it parasitically "crossbands" with human hosts, creating "homoplasmates."

Dick is not the only one to imagine information as a kind of virus (itself a quasi-living body of code). In addition to Burrough's famous phrase ("language is a virus"), there's scientist Richard Dawkins' understanding of memes as thoughts which, like genes, propagate and compete in the competitive environment of culture.

[...]

Memes have already become a somewhat trendy notion in cyberculture, but what is intriguing is Humphrey's insistence that they be conceived "not just metaphorically, but technically." In Dick's fiction, metaphors are transformed into technical operations. Even more interesting is the meme Humphrey uses as an example. For of all artifacts of human culture, it is the great memes themselves that perhaps come the closest to eternal life. And one of the greatest of those is the one that claims that, just as memes survive in the minds of human hosts, so can human consciousness survive in the abstract space of the meme.

[...]

But Transmissions is also a strangely compelling meditation on the modes of information. Carey writes in his introduction: "Regardless of one's opinion on the plausibility of extraterrestrial or angelic communion, it might be pointed out that the simple act of structuring information in this manner opens up communicative possibilities that are virtually non-existent in a conventional mode." This applies equally to Dee's conversations and to the Transmissions' assertion that because human languages are insufficient for the Word, having been "designed to facilitate commerce," the angels are providing a new language: "Living Information." This information will not only provide instructions during the apocalypse, but will awaken memories of our own stellar origins, buried beneath the "spell of matter" induced when we chose to incarnate as human individuals. Carey's aliens are quite frank about how they are subliminally affecting human minds and sneakily spreading their infectious meta-information through terrestrial culture.

In this sense, Carey's transmissions are delivered more as a propagandistic virus or a set of trigger signals than as a collection of beliefs.

Read Full Article Here (it's massive): http://techgnosis.com/index_infoangels.html

[Chester]

Excerpts from Wikipedia.

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Global Brain

The global brain is a metaphor for the worldwide intelligent network formed by all the individuals on this planet, together with the information and communication technologies that connect them into a self-organizing whole. As the internet becomes faster, more intelligent, and more encompassing, it increasingly ties us together into a single information processing system, which functions like a nervous system for the planet Earth. The intelligence of this network is collective or distributed: it is not centralized or localized in any particular individual, organization or computer system. It rather emerges from the dynamic networks of interactions between its components, a property typical of complex adaptive systems.

The World-wide web in particular resembles the organization of a brain with its webpages (playing a role similar to neurons) connected by hyperlinks (playing a role similar to synapses), together forming an associative network along which information propagates. This analogy becomes stronger with the rise of social media, such as Facebook, where links between personal pages represent relationships in a social network along which information propagates from person to person. Such propagation is similar to the spreading activation that neural networks in the brain use to process information in a parallel, distributed manner.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_brain

...and all that had to be finalized is the all chips installed and then the switch turned on.

Makes this "released, whistle blower" NSA stuff quite mickey mouse. Look at the size of those buildings - all simply to watch out for terrorists? haha.

Simply "Global Management Offices"

Say "Hello" to Humanity 2.0

[dan33]

May be it's a "little" out of topic but i love this video. Makes me dream.

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I don't forget DIAMOND AGE by NEAL STEPHENSON. A Master Piece by a Genius.


http://worldtracker.org/media/library/English%20Literature/B/Best%20Of%20Science%20Fiction/Hugo%20Novels/1996%20-%20Neil%20Stephenson%20-%20the%20Diamond%20Age%20.pdf

or

http://worldtracker.org/media/library/English%20Literature/B/Best%20Of%20Science%20Fiction/Hugo%20Novels/1996%20-%20Neil%20Stephenson%20-%20the%20Diamond%20Age%20.pdf

Thanks Vivek again... and to all of the posters.

[Chester]

sadly - these two videos belong here - and I recommend folks give them a listen

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[Freed Fox]

Advanced Tools for Mammalian Genome Engineering
-DARPA solicitation project submitted to the government's Federal Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) website-


This solicitation is focused on improving the utility of HACs (Human Artificial Chromosomes) as a DNA delivery platform by developing technologies to address several key technical hurdles associated with current HAC vectors. These includes development of new selectable metabolic markers suitable for use in human cell lines, new high-fidelity methods for inserting DNA constructs at least 50,000 bp (base pairs) in length into defined genomic loci, and new methodologies for facile intercellular genome transplantation. A successful technology will be able to integrate into existing HAC vectors and will be capable of being readily transitioned to academic, government, and commercial researchers, all of whom rely on the ability to deliver DNA to mammalian cell lines.

http://sbirsource.com/grantiq#/topics/88854

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEil-VoloYE

"Miles talks about his suspicions about mind mapping in broadcasting institutions, and explains the triggers he has from the tiles that were instructed to be painted spontaneously by Sky TV personnel."

[ktlight]

Miles Johnston talks in depth about a psychotronic test performed at Sky TV


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_GhkpwqTgE

"Miles talks about a psychotronic test where a team at Sky TV, instructed by Personnel, painted whatever came to mind on white tiles. Miles noticed that there was a common theme in them all.

The images are tagged to the end of this video."

[Radi]

anyone posted this ?
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2011/apr/17/brain-implant-paralysis-movement
its about chip that implanted gives the power of telekinesis
:confused:

[Jeffrey]

DARPA Robotics Challenge uploaded by LockheedMartinVideos

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[Jeffrey]

Robot Revolution: Androids are coming

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Great video, but they didn't even touch on DARPA or the military.

Mix that, with this ...

http://www.nature.com/polopoly_fs/7.13495.1383568372!/image/Brain-chip.jpg_gen/derivatives/fullsize/Brain-chip.jpg

Source: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=neuroelectronics-make-smarter-computer-chips

http://www.kurzweilai.net/images/rtnav_illustration300x300.png

... and the intertwined growth of all technologies synced up with the internet and gigantic data centers etc etc ... and you have an interesting framework for a good science fiction novel. Except this is real and we are on the verge of it. The next ten years of technological advancement will make the past ten years of advancements look like child's play.

[mosquito]

Being a machine is not my idea of immortality. Agreed !


http://2045.com/


International Manifesto of the "2045" Strategic Social Initiative
22.02.2011


We believe that it is possible and necessary to eliminate aging and even death, and to overcome the fundamental limits of the physical and mental capabilities currently set by the restrictions of the physical body.

Scientists from various countries in the world are already developing technology that ensures the creation of an artificial human body prototype within the next decade. We believe the biggest technological project of our times will become the creation of such artificial human body and a subsequent transfer of individual human consciousness to such a body.


Just read this. F*ck is all I can say.

Imagine - Tony Blair or George Bush transferred into an immortal robot.

No thank you.

Update - I've just had a look at the 2045 website.....


The Dalai Lama Supports 2045’s Avatar Project

??

[Roisin]

As our wireless technology advances, mankind will experience more instances of various types of phenomena generated by other-dimensional intelligences. In addition to this, those preliminary astral shells (a soul-less consciousness) that are shed by transitioning humans that are taken over by archons, or whatever one chooses to call them, where they are then masquerading as those humans who once occupied those shells in various types of paranormal phenomenons... where they are able to access the memories that are also inherent within those shells too of the departing consciousness, hence why they, the archons, are able to convince those who don't know better that they are the person they claim to be when they, in fact, are not.... those deceivers will be coming in stronger as our wireless technology improves. In fact, it will get to the point where the avg. psychically undeveloped incarnate human will easily be communicated to and will have various paranormal experiences by those intelligences. So hold on tight because we're in for a rough ride. Many will become emotionally unstable due to those types of experiences of which they will be totally unprepared for on an intellectual and spiritual level. Our computers and the internet are open channels for them too and will be moreso as time goes by.
The bottom line is, when it comes to wireless technology, we are in over our heads. We are making progress on the tech/mechanical part of it but there's much more to it that's far beyond our current understanding of physics. In short, we are dealing with fire and we don't even know it. But some of us DO know it but no one will listen to us... not until it's too late.

[Roisin]

I haven't seen this yet but think it should be cross posted from Houman's thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=686697&viewfull=1#post686697).

It seems that all roads are leading to the digital manipulation of reality.


A few folks here may recall that I went to see a hypnotist last summer named Mark Johnson. During that session "the entity" attached to me claimed "a digital overlay" was at the root of the "archontic" influence.

Yup. Any "knowing" individual would see the truth in such conjectures.

[Hervé]

See cyberspying for what it is: A type of psychiatry (http://www.azcentral.com/opinions/articles/20131207cyberspying-type-psychiatry.html)

SHARE URL (http://www.azcentral.com/opinions/articles/20131207cyberspying-type-psychiatry.html#)

By Doug MacEachern The Republic | azcentral.com Sat Dec 7, 2013 4:50 PM

Edward Snowden’s magic thumb drive holds a lot of state secrets. But it doesn’t hold them all.

Vainglorious Ed knows much about what the United States is snooping into. His latest release is a beauty, in fact, revealing that the National Security Agency sweeps up 5 billion cellphone-call records worldwide every day.

The Snowden reveals are the perfect holiday scandal — the one that just keeps on giving.

But there is a flip side to all this very disquieting news about the disappearance of our personal privacy space and the federal government’s role in taking it away from us.

The NSA is not the only pack of supersnoops tapped into the waves of American metadata washing daily from sea to sea. They aren’t the only ones looking into our personal lives in places we do not like having them look.

Cyberthievery is becoming rampant. On Wednesday, I got a letter from the Maricopa County Community College District informing me of “a security incident that may have resulted in the disclosure of your personal information.”

Perhaps you heard about it. More than 2.4 million students, former students and employees may have had their personal information held by the college district stolen.

Personally, I’m outraged about this. Not because thieves may have stolen my data. But because I can’t for the life of me figure out why the district has my data in the first place. I’ve never taken a class there! What the hell are they doing with my stuff?

Maybe the answer is that far more people have our stuff than most of us realize.
Not so long ago, the most closely held secret at the Pentagon was the design of the F-35, the new generation of attack jet. A group of hackers known as Titan Rain/Byzantine Hades is believed to have stolen much of the F-35 design data on behalf of the Chinese in the mid-2000s.

But the mother lode of U.S. data treasured by Chinese hackers is not necessarily government or military, but industrial. Estimates of U.S. intellectual property appropriated by hackers — many of them working on behalf of Chinese interests, including the government — may reach into the trillions of dollars worth. That doesn’t even include Beijing’s own Snowden-esque attempts at hacking of U.S. state secrets.

But beating up on the Chinese government for its industrial-strength piracy programs in fact understates the threats that are out there to what we used to know as “privacy.”

There are so many interests around the world attacking our electronically stored private space, and many of them are so malign and pervasive that they are creating a counterintuitive conundrum:

In order to defend against destructive attacks and thefts of private data, U.S. interests — both private and federal — cannot simply be current with the tactics of cyberattackers. In the fast-evolving world of cybertechnology, those who are merely current are, in all probability, behind the curve created by an aggressive intruder, especially if it is a well-financed state-based intruder.

No, they must be ahead of the curve. And the only way to get ahead of the curve is to be better at cyberspying than the other guy.

So, like it or not, the NSA clearly has become very good at cyberspying, in part by developing its capacity for being intrusive, which includes sweeping up all that metadata all around the world. Call it Cold War II. Our cyberspies have to be better and more powerful than their cyberspies, or this entire digitalized world in which we live may go “kaboom!”

If that strikes you as cold comfort for having lost almost all of what we used to call “privacy,” I can’t help but agree. The question is: What is the alternative?

“The Internet is starting to look like neuroscience,” said Dave McMahon, a computer-systems consultant for the Washington, D.C.-based SecDev Group. McMahon spoke at a recent seminar on national security hosted by the Heritage Foundation.

“We deal with pathologies on the Internet the same way as pathologies of the psyche.”

McMahon is not exaggerating. Just as with neurology, the study of cyberactivity is evolving into a study of patterns of interconnected electronic activity. That is the essence of how the brain interacts with the rest of the body. And it is the essence of how metadata trackers at the NSA and elsewhere spy on people. They don’t have to listen in on individual phone calls. All they need to do is follow the flow of electrons. They follow patterns. And relationships.

A great example of how modern meta-spying occurs was created recently by Kieran Healy, an associate professor of sociology at Duke University. He performed a “metadata” analysis of information that could have ended the American Revolution before it got started.

Healy compiled data that would have been readily available to British intelligence officers in 1772 — the names of Boston-area men’s social clubs and their membership lists, which included 254 men. By cross-referencing clubs and members (many gentlemen of the era belonged to multiple such clubs), Healy was able to put together an intricately woven graphic that looks very much like the results of a PET scan on a patient’s brain.

And right at the center of Healy’s web of patterns? There were two names that clearly stood out as being by far the most interconnected — and, so, best informed — men in late-18th-century Boston.

One was Thomas Urann, one of the organizers of the Boston Tea Party, the signature protest act that helped launch the Revolution. The other was Paul Revere.

Find those two characters, throw them into a dank Boston cell block for a while, and you have gone a long way toward subverting a revolution. It’s a good thing there was no such thing as a British intelligence officer working Boston in 1772.

You can’t say the same now. Not only are there countless intelligence officers on all sides of countless fences, but there is an increasingly deep trove of cyberwealth about us for them to plumb.

“Everything on Earth has the capacity to be part of the Internet,” said McMahon. “We are seeing the convergence of all technologies and media.”

Is it any wonder then that, at the same time, the concept of privacy we once took for granted is evaporating?

Reach MacEachern at doug.maceachern@arizonarepublic.com.

[Limor Wolf]

A Swedish alternative internet channel now gathers important documantation interviewing people with personal experience of interaction between human brain and computers


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGDAVwmaxW8
More civilian Testimonies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsPZwdoCoGY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhCTNlmVvkIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYQ2nK6tXhQ


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"INSERTION" - A chapter from the 2001 epic animated series - "Broken Saints"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDNCeaLDjcc

[chocolate]

Why robot sex could be the future of life on earth ?!

When René Descartes went to work as tutor of young Queen Christina of Sweden, his formidable student allegedly asked him what could be said of the human body. Descartes answered that it could be regarded as a machine; whereby the queen pointed to a clock on the wall, ordering him to “see to it that it produces offspring”. A joke, perhaps, in the 17th century, but now many computer scientists think the age of the self-replicating, evolving machine may be upon us.
It is an idea that has been around for a while – in fiction. Stanislaw Lem in his 1964 novel The Invincible told the story of a spaceship landing on a distant planet to find a mechanical life form, the product of millions of years of mechanical evolution. It was an idea that would resurface many decades later in the Matrix trilogy of movies, as well as in software labs.
In fact, self-replicating machines have a much longer, and more nuanced, past. They were indirectly proposed in 1802, when William Paley formulated the first teleological argument of machines producing other machines.
In his book Natural Theology, Paley proposed the famous “watchmaker analogy”. He argued that something as complex as a watch could only exist if there was a watchmaker. Since the universe and all living beings were far more complex than a watch, there had to be a God – a divine watchmaker. Interestingly, Paley conceded that his argument would be moot if the watch could make itself. This detail has been forgotten during the cultural wars that followed Darwin’s publication of On the Origin of Species.
Self-replicating machines have been around, at least in theory, for decades. In 1949, the mathematician John von Neumann showed how a machine could replicate itself. He called it the “universal constructor” because the machine was both an active component of the construction and the target of the copying process.

This means that the medium of replication is, at the same time, the medium of storage of the instructions for the replication. Von Neumann’s big idea allowed open-ended complexity, and therefore errors in the replication – in other words, it opened up self-replicating non-biological systems to the laws of evolution. His brilliant insight predated the discovery of the DNA double helix by Crick and Watson. He went on to develop mathematical entities that reproduced themselves and evolved over time, which he called “cellular automata”.
Although von Neumann’s model initially worked only in mathematical space, it was a clear demonstration that evolution may influence mechanical evolution. Since then, engineers have taken the principle on board and have produced physical applications such as RepRap machines – 3D printers that can print most of their own components.
The next logical step would be to apply these principles in robot reproduction. For instance, we could have a robotic factory with three classes of robots: one for mining and transporting raw material, one for assembling raw materials into finished robots and one for designing processes and products. The last class, the “brains” of the autonomous robotic factory, would be artificial intelligence systems. But could these robots also “evolve”?
The Victorian novelist Samuel Butler thought so. He was a contemporary of Charles Darwin, who spent 20 years of his life attacking the foundations of Darwinism. Butler was not so much against the idea of evolution per se. His tiff with Darwin revolved around the role of intelligence. For Butler the intelligence of evolution and the evolution of intelligence showed common principles, of which life was at the same time both the cause and the result. On this basis, he concluded “it was the race of the intelligent machines and not the race of men which would be the next step in evolution”.
In his novel Erewhon (an anagram of “nowhere”) he describes a utopian society that opted to banish machines. They were deemed to be dangerous, a notion that has influenced fiction, and non-fiction, to our day. The economist Tyler Cowen, in his recent book Average is Over, warns that thinking machines will take our jobs.
Safety legislation impedes, although it does not preclude, the development of a fully autonomous robotic factory that reproduces itself. But planting such a factory on a distant planet is a different story. Mars colonisation could benefit from self-reproducing robots preparing the planet for human habitation. The physicist and visionary George Dyson has proposed using self-replicating robots to cut and ferry water-ice from Enceladus (a frozen moon of Saturn) to Mars and use it to terraform the Red Planet.
Some biologists believe that life on Earth started on Mars, the seeds of our biosphere carried here by meteorites blasted off the Martian surface billions of years ago. If that is true, it would then be an irony of apocalyptic proportions if future intelligent machines from Mars rebelled against their originators, attacked Earth in order to colonise it and got rid of the current inhabitants. Unlike HG Wells’s fictional invaders, these robotic Martians of the future would be impervious to biological germs. (But perhaps not to computer viruses.)
Ultimately, the question whether self-reproducing robots will evolve or not boils down to the capability of artificial intelligence systems to self-improve. Only then could the “brains” of the robotic factory build evolved robots without the need of human designers.
It’s already happening. Machine learning has been around for years. New algorithms for data analysis, combined with increasing computer power and interconnectedness, means that intelligent machines will be able to comprehend massive amounts of contextual information. They would not only be able to understand what a piece of information is about, but how it relates to other information. The capability to understand correlations and get “the big picture” could potentially enable them to set their own goals. Already there are autonomous robotic systems that do that, military drones being an example. Self-improvement could be next.
Perhaps by exploring and learning about human evolution, intelligent machines will come to the conclusion that sex is the best way for them to evolve. Rather than self-replicating, like amoebas, they may opt to simulate sexual reproduction with two, or indeed innumerable, sexes.
Sex would defend them from computer viruses (just as biological sex may have evolved to defend organisms from parasitical attack), make them more robust and accelerate their evolution. Software engineers already use so-called “genetic algorithms” that mimic evolution.
Nanotechnologists, like Eric Drexler, see the future of intelligent machines at the level of molecules: tiny robots that evolve and – like in Lem’s novel – come together to form intelligent superorganisms. Perhaps the future of artificial intelligence will be both silicon- and carbon-based: digital brains directing complex molecular structures to copulate at the nanometre level and reproduce. Perhaps the cyborgs of the future may involve human participation in robot sexual reproduction, and the creation of new, hybrid species.
If that is the future, then we may have to reread Paley’s Natural Theology and take notice. Not in the way that creationists do, but as members of an open society that must face up to the possible ramifications of our technology. Unlike natural evolution, where high-level consciousness and intelligence evolved late as by-products of cerebral development in mammals, in robotic evolution intelligence will be the guiding force. Butler will be vindicated. Brains will come before bodies. Robotic evolution will be Intelligent Design par excellence. The question is not whether it may happen or not, but whether we would want it to happen.

And that is the source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/10584380/Why-robot-sex-could-be-the-future-of-life-on-earth.html

So, what went wrong with the human (biological machines)? Not fashionable enough for us anymore? Those above us ... are crying right now. Or are they?

[Sean Cullen]

So, what went wrong with the human (biological machines)? Not fashionable enough for us anymore? Those above us ... are crying right now. Or are they?

Nothing went wrong with us. We are just far too unpredictable, uncontrollable and ultimately unreliable... This is because we have two attributes that cannot be suppressed easily; a soul and an innate desire for free will. Machines do not have these impediments (sic). They have tried really, really hard for a long time to erradicate the 'ghost in the machine', but they may well now believe that the 'grey goo' option, although very risky, will bear the best results for them in their timeframe.

Seán

[chocolate]

:) My question was mostly rhetorical.
It takes us thousands of lives to figure ourselves out, and to finally start discovering how to balance life and where the balance point is, but I guess it is much faster (for those interested) to just skip all that and go straight to the point- 'obey US ;)'. But then comes my very predictable and reliable free will that screams in their ear drums (if they still have that) : "NO f...... WAY".
Sorry, went a bit emotional on you.
Peace. [I agree with your post]

Today:
http://themindunleashed.org/2014/01/scientists-finally-admit-second-secret-dna-code-controls-genes.html


The Russian biophysicist and molecular biologist Pjotr Garjajev and his colleagues explored the vibrational behavior of the DNA. The bottom line was: “Living chromosomes function just like solitonic/holographic computers using the endogenous DNA laser radiation.” This means that they managed for example to modulate certain frequency patterns onto a laser ray and with it influenced the DNA frequency and thus the genetic information itself. Since the basic structure of DNA-alkaline pairs and of language (as explained earlier) are of the same structure, no DNA decoding is necessary.

[chocolate]

I was reading this thread a bit, doing it in my usual upside-down kind of a way, and could comment on what FreedFox has posted about the Humans With Ampped Intelligence that Could Be More Powerful Than AI. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55117-The-Technological-Revolution-Artificial-Intelligence-and-the-Invisible-Plague&p=680380&viewfull=1#post680380

But we already ARE more powerful than the AI. It is just that we don't allow our streams to roam free and take us places. I read someplace that it takes a computer 40 minutes to do what the brain does in a minute (if I am not mistaken about the exact numbers).
And also, we CAN get into a sync with a machine, it just happens when you have the mental inclination to do so. For example when you learn how to draw on a computer and you have done so on a drawing board as well, at one point I have discovered that I make my commands and draft as if my mind is directly connected to the program, not my finger over the mouse button. Or when I drive my car (which I am still quite novice at that). I did not even need to add DMT to figure those things out. I only had to trust that the one above who is in control of me.

We have ahead of us so much more to learn about ourselves the way we are right now, that going full blown machines is obviously times easier.

I hope God (excuse the expression) will not reinvent God in a such a rude way, but I guess it will be up to the collective opinion and combined choice at that point. I hope I will not be around for when that happens, if it turns out to be in the way of the AI.

Everything is so simple when it is on the level of each individual, and so little most of us can understand that. We seem to value more what is outside than what is inside. Our minds and physical eyes are fixated on the far away cosmos and in the material structures of the atoms and electrons, which might just turn out to be a bit different than what we expect of them, than on the nature of who is in control (as Terence McKenna said sometime before).

I like one expression: " If you don't want to rule, someone will rule you."

I hope most of us will wake up to some truths soon enough.

[chocolate]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1584820/thumbs/n-DEEPMIND-large.jpg
Google Buys UK Artificial Intelligence Startup DeepMind For $400 Million
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/27/google-deepmind-acquisition_n_4672196.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-tech&ir=UK+Tech

[chocolate]

New Bionic Hand Gives Amputee a Grip — And a Sense of Touch
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2014/02/prosthetic-hand-feeling/?cid=18140324

Prosthetic limbs that deliver tactile feedback directly to the nervous system have been developed previously (as early as 1974), says Dustin Tyler, a biomedical engineer at Case Western Reserve University. Where the European study breaks new ground is in showing just how much the sensory feedback improves the patient’s performance. For those of us fortunate enough to have all our limbs, this feedback happens so automatically that we take it for granted. But without it, the nervous system can’t make the on-the-fly adjustments necessary to produce smooth, natural movements.

“Going forward, sensory feedback is probably the most important thing,” Tyler said. “It’s what changes a prosthesis from a tool to a hand.”

[Limor Wolf]

Security forces in Sochi appear to be taking things to a new level with sophisticated technology that scans train passengers for their emotional state to make sure they are not terrorists. Seriously.

A news item from last month:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/olympics/russia-us-in-talks-to-use-us-technology-to-secure-sochi/article16444420/


"Russia, U.S. in talks to use U.S. technology to secure Sochi

Even as Russia imposes the most intensive security apparatus in Olympic history, the top military officers from the United States and Russia have opened discussions about using sophisticated U.S. electronic equipment in a new effort to help secure the Winter Games in Sochi next month.

The Russian delegation first raised the prospect of gaining access to the U.S. technology, developed by the Pentagon to counter improvised explosive devices in Afghanistan and Iraq, Defense Department officials said Tuesday. They emphasized that no decisions had been made yet."

And yesterday (Friday), the American newspaper "New York Times", provided a first glimpse of the secret weapons security in Sochi. It is handled by the most sophisticated technology in the world, which scans the passengers to make sure that they are not terrorist

Read about it here:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/thesochinetwork/russia-secret-weapon-stop-sochi-terrorists-082446505.html

[chocolate]

[...]

As for "details", gory or otherwise, let me offer this. The land-based form was about two or three feet tall, but quite long – maybe as long as a dolphin today. It had a shape which was oddly similar to that of the Australian platypus. You can look up platypuses on the internet, I guess. It was several times bigger than a platypus and it had a long “snout” like a horse instead of the duck bill that the platypus has. But they both usually have a body covered with brown fur, as far as I remember, and a huge broad tail. The fur may well have been what they wore to keep warm, though. Maybe also not unlike a giant brown horse-like rabbit, minus long ears.

The most vivid memory I have is that not long before the land-based ones escaped from the tyranny, some of them had large chunks of steel inserted in their bodies, particularly in one of the front limbs and near the shoulder. This made movement excruciatingly painful for them, and also adversely affected their hearts. Somehow all the land-based ones knew that this had been done to some of them. I don’t know if it was some sort of attempt to half-robot-ise these creatures, but I do know it was horribly painful for them. I also know that it backfired, completely. It spurred them on to develop their technology more quickly, even though they had to do so in secret. The guardian angels were shocked by the metal insertions, and did intervene to a greater degree than they would be willing to do today. Unless, of course, the ruling elite should become foolish enough to try to half-robot-ise the human population. I’m pretty sure the higher ET races would simply not tolerate such a move. I don’t remember all the details of all the oppression that happened. But I remember that this was the worst thing.

from http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38661-The-journey-to-discovering-my-true-origins&p=407749&viewfull=1#post407749

[Ulyse30]

(French,English)Bonjours,bonsoir,à tous,merci de préciser là-dessus le sujet est;la synchronisation,ce sujet me fascine,j'ai quelques notes là-dessus,et j'aimerais partager une avec Avaloniens:(Pour ceux que sa intéressent,:J'aimerais développer,des solutions durables avec Avaloniens et les synchronicités de PA,envoyer,un message privé,a Ulyse30,merci,!!!) Permettez moi de vous dires,que oui, la syncrhonisation,est essentielle,a la réalisation de toutes choses biens équillibrés,biens canaliser les moments présents,et en comprendre,ses réalités,avec des états d'infinités possibilités,le tout,ensembles égales a des réalisations incroyables,physiques et non physiques, qu'il y-a des répercussions sur vos vies directements et que cela doit êtres positifs,toujours en harmonies avec un alignement de où vous devez vous situer dans cette ligne (des temps réels),( et d'illusions),mais il y a toujours, des guides,des trucs,des prières,des demandes,qui peuvent améliorer ces situations actuelles physiques et non physiques,toujours dans des buts positifs et bien équilibrés,:(exemples pour les villes,urbaines,je sais la syncrhonisation n'est pas parfaite,mais ce n'est qu'un exemple,ne pas prendre à la lettre,surtout pas aux heures de pointes,..!!!Si nous serions plus synchronisés,il y aurait beaucoup moins d'accidents de la route,ils faut aussi être en harmonie avec l'état de nos émotions,nous pouvons,perdre le controle de nos émotions,et vous connaissez, la suite,..!!!Pour les problèmes de la route et de la pollution,aussi c'est un autre problème,que,nous pouvons règler,ils y-a des solutions,...!!!)Juste à penser à la synchronisation de nos faits et gestes posés dans l'harmonie,sa ce passe à tout les jours sur nos routes,quand ont roulent ensembles,quand vous regardez cela d'un oeil non objectif,cela est la synchronisation la plus simple et la plus pure,le but de notre venu sur Terre,c'est sa de se ''règler'',unis ensemble une fois pour toute,mais pour cela ils faut êtres synchronisés,(avec un rayon d'amour universel)!!!!!Tous synchronisés ensembles nous avons beaucoup,de belles et bonnes posibilités de potentiel,des potentiels,très saints pour nous,....(Merci ce n'est qu'un post,opinion personnel,avec expériences réelles!!)U30.

[Kalamos]

..........

[TargeT]

I saw TRANSCENDENCE in the theater tonight. Whoa. Really makes you think on many levels. I can't put it into words right now (I'd love to write a review, but I'll have to watch it again. Plus I'm still contemplating the implications of what might be going on behind the scenes). Highly recommended though.

it got terrible reviews.. .but yes, that was TRANShumanism at it's best... a very interesting movie, I'll be watching it again soon.

[Jeffrey]

If anyone has taken any interest in the topics, theories, ideas, and information contained in this thread then I urge you to take the time to read through this ---> http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77813-Metabiology-.-.-The-Keys-to-the-Book-of-Time-and-True-Knowledge&p=911057&viewfull=1#post911057

[Radi]

idn if this was posted but I think it's related to the topic. What are your thoughts on this?

http://thenewinquiry.com/av/oculus-birth/

;X is this a joke ?

[Radi]

also, what do you guys think about this web that describes a way to cure nano virus ?

http://www.dataasylum.com/targeted-individuals-cure.html

[BenzSolo]

Your ideas about the astral, a template, and which comes first, the physical and then the template, or template and then the physical are ideas I have been contemplating on and off for years now. It is nice to see someone else contemplating this and looking for answers. What about the idea of a World AI System and an "astral net"? Quite literally a World AI System hooked up to an artificial "astral net" which would be global and put in place by the Elite? Ie the Elite monitoring the airwaves of peoples thoughts, even spiking this field of energy, an astral net and plane, and interacting with people, the masses directly. I have research material about all of this, it is a plan of the Elite, and the ultimate dream of power hunger psychopaths, the ultimate nightmare of the unsuspecting public. David Icke did a video on an astral net, at youtube. I have not the time to read all of your posts now, but will later! Good material, thank you.

[Star Tsar]

The Freezone

Uri Dowbenko | AI To Rule The Earth

http://freemantv.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Uri-Dowbenko.jpg

Published 3rd September 2017

Vladimir Putin says that whoever reaches artificial intelligence first, will come to dominate the world. He said the development of AI raises "colossal opportunities and threats that are difficult to predict now." He warned that "the one who becomes the leader in this sphere will be the ruler of the world." Putin stated that "it would be strongly undesirable if someone wins a monopolist position" and promised that Russia would be ready to share its know-how in artificial intelligence with other nations.

Is Google becoming Skynet? What are they doing with Life Extension, Quantum Computers and the "Demon of A.I." Is Google data-basing your DNA? Can we have immortality through Transhumanism? Will upgrading the human form with technology lead to liberation or create a new matrix of control? Is the soul something that can be transferred? Does this future tech have its roots in Earth's ancient past?

Uri Dowbenko’s writing includes hundreds of articles, movie reviews, interviews and investigative writing pieces for Fortean Times, Nexus Magazine, New Dawn Magazine, Paranoia Magazine…
Uri's book, “Bushwhacked: Inside Stories of True Conspiracy,” has been described as “packed with new revelations.” His latest book called “Hoodwinked: Watching Movies With Eyes Wide Open,” is a collection of the most politically incorrect movie reviews ever published.
Dowbenko’s art can be seen as a meditation and a visual representation of other dimensions. He calls his art “Metaphysical Art 2.0?

Listen here: http://freemantv.com/a-i-to-rule-the-earth-uri-dowbenko/

[Baby Steps]

some more on Hans Moravec's book

Imagine attending a lecture at the turn of the twentieth century in which Orville Wright speculates about the future of transportation, or one in which Alexander Graham Bell envisages satellite communications and global data banks. Mind Children, written by an internationally renowned roboticist, offers a comparable experience—a mind-boggling glimpse of a world we may soon share with our artificial progeny. Filled with fresh ideas and insights, this book is one of the most engaging and controversial visions of the future ever written by a serious scholar.

Hans Moravec convincingly argues that we are approaching a watershed in the history of life—a time when the boundaries between biological and postbiological intelligence will begin to dissolve. Within forty years, Moravec believes, we will achieve human equivalence in our machines, not only in their capacity to reason but also in their ability to perceive, interact with, and change their complex environment. The critical factor is mobility. A computer rooted to one place is doomed to static iterations, whereas a machine on the prowl, like a mobile organism, must evolve a richer fund of knowledge about an ever-changing world upon which to base its actions.

In order to achieve anything near human equivalence, robots will need, at the least, the capacity to perform ten trillion calculations per second. Given the trillion-fold increase in computational power since the end of the nineteenth century, and the promise of exotic technologies far surpassing the now-familiar lasers and even superconductors, Moravec concludes that our hardware will have no trouble meeting this forty-year timetable.

But human equivalence is just the beginning, not an upper bound. Once the tireless thinking capacity of robots is directed to the problem of their own improvement and reproduction, even the sky will not limit their voracious exploration of the universe. In the concluding chapters Moravec challenges us to imagine with him the possibilities and pitfalls of such a scenario. Rather than warning us of takeover by robots, the author invites us, as we approach the end of this millennium, to speculate about a plausible, wonderful postbiological future and the ways in which our minds might participate in its unfolding.

https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674576186

[Baby Steps]

The following came to me by serendipity, it appears to be a PP briefing on future warfare to NASA (why warfare & NASA?) from 2001.

Please delete if already posted



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[Kryztian]

Hyundai purchases Boston Dynamics and produces this horrifying video "to celebrate".

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[Patient]

I was just reading through this and a thought came to my mind...

I think that AI could eventually replicate our personality by how we react to things and the choices we make in different situations - but it will not be able to take our soul.

[Hym]

As an acquaintance of mine said publicly, "They gave us their mind". The inverse is true, when we look at that artificial and inhumane mind, with its simply understood and destructive motivations.

How people completely forget that all of any system that is "artificial" is originally programmed by someone with a soul....this is understandable when we remember that most of communication has been used from its original construction to manipulate the mind, by other beings who consider themselves more than whatever we become, or realize we are....in our unlimited expression of the Infinite Beings We ARE.

OURS is the SOUL whose mind is but a tool of its SPIRITUAL intentions.


They'll call it artificial soul intelligence, ASI, in private then publicly later on, as its developers declare to each other already, and have for some time....again, as only in private. However, their hive mind is easy to hear, to see in its production, and sense when humans remove the distractions...and humanity cannot be blamed for watching the show...until now.

Their direction and funding has come from those ID, device based inter-dimensional, beings who claim that humans are merely artificial constructs of their own 'godly' invention. Remember that they are the ones who constructed the primitive forms of communication like words, spoken and written languages, and have manipulated the same thought wave forms, bound by words with assigned meanings that influence humanity.

It is factual to state that the progenitors and gene manipulators of the many newer forms of homo sapiens/sapiens do not have the capacity to take a very simplistic and manipulated form of communication and create such indescribable beauty with it. They do not have the capacity.

They cannot create the music, the poetry, the invention, the REAL World, the truly inter-dimensional experiences that humanity has created. Theirs is the virtual/the almost/the frustratingly almost orgasmic/ blue-balled(male)/ blue-belled(creator female) tease of a.i. that never delivers....until you give them your mind, your creativities.

Standing outside of it all, you look very uncomfortable and that is a response from the essence of the nature of your soul. It's the Soul's property. It's the Soul's Mine, not anyone else's, and especially not belonging to any media, any entertainment, nor any institutional construct's.

Do not think less of yourselves because you don't yet have that device that allows you to pop in and out of a room, or because you have not regenerated your capacity as a telepathic communicator with those loved ones you are with now.....

Because the essence of the human is formed from its own separate soul experience, even within a larger group of souls, it cannot be tamed or controlled, once stripped of the constructs imposed upon it.

And yes, the human body, in its present form is not well equipped for handling all of the experiences. It, contrary to some common implanted training, has to learn to accept the mundane, the pain, the illusionary presence of conflict along with the common, ecstatic presence that is the real world within and without this one....

.....There is a word for those who stay after it's all healed and cleaned up, washing the dishes as they disappear from our grasp...and in the bubbles left on our hands from the soap revealing worlds within worlds, grains of sand as earths themselves....

[Patient]

hmmm not perfected yet. At the end of the vid, one did not have the neck attachment. Seems they were forced to finish the recording of the vid without it.

Oh I see now - 2 of them did not have that attachment.

Guess I am looking and hoping to see failures with it.

[Referee]

I think the answer is to broadcast the Schumann resonance as long as you can see every electronic device on the planet this was caused by too much Aleve and I believe you have to get the frequency exactly right though

[Pam]

As an acquaintance of mine said publicly, "They gave us their mind". The inverse is true, when we look at that artificial and inhumane mind, with its simply understood and destructive motivations.

How people completely forget that all of any system that is "artificial" is originally programmed by someone with a soul....this is understandable when we remember that most of communication has been used from its original construction to manipulate the mind, by other beings who consider themselves more than whatever we become, or realize we are....in our unlimited expression of the Infinite Beings We ARE.

OURS is the SOUL whose mind is but a tool of its SPIRITUAL intentions.


They'll call it artificial soul intelligence, ASI, in private then publicly later on, as its developers declare to each other already, and have for some time....again, as only in private. However, their hive mind is easy to hear, to see in its production, and sense when humans remove the distractions...and humanity cannot be blamed for watching the show...until now.

Their direction and funding has come from those ID, device based inter-dimensional, beings who claim that humans are merely artificial constructs of their own 'godly' invention. Remember that they are the ones who constructed the primitive forms of communication like words, spoken and written languages, and have manipulated the same thought wave forms, bound by words with assigned meanings that influence humanity.

It is factual to state that the progenitors and gene manipulators of the many newer forms of homo sapiens/sapiens do not have the capacity to take a very simplistic and manipulated form of communication and create such indescribable beauty with it. They do not have the capacity.

They cannot create the music, the poetry, the invention, the REAL World, the truly inter-dimensional experiences that humanity has created. Theirs is the virtual/the almost/the frustratingly almost orgasmic/ blue-balled(male)/ blue-belled(creator female) tease of a.i. that never delivers....until you give them your mind, your creativities.

Standing outside of it all, you look very uncomfortable and that is a response from the essence of the nature of your soul. It's the Soul's property. It's the Soul's Mine, not anyone else's, and especially not belonging to any media, any entertainment, nor any institutional construct's.

Do not think less of yourselves because you don't yet have that device that allows you to pop in and out of a room, or because you have not regenerated your capacity as a telepathic communicator with those loved ones you are with now.....

Because the essence of the human is formed from its own separate soul experience, even within a larger group of souls, it cannot be tamed or controlled, once stripped of the constructs imposed upon it.

And yes, the human body, in its present form is not well equipped for handling all of the experiences. It, contrary to some common implanted training, has to learn to accept the mundane, the pain, the illusionary presence of conflict along with the common, ecstatic presence that is the real world within and without this one....

.....There is a word for those who stay after it's all healed and cleaned up, washing the dishes as they disappear from our grasp...and in the bubbles left on our hands from the soap reveal worlds within worlds, grains of sand as earths themselves....


There is so much truth and wisdom in yours words here,Hym. Thank you. A year ago much of this would have gone over my head. The universe will allow us to transcend ourselves and all it takes is willingness.

[Hym]

Thanks, Pam. I absolutely have to give a lot of credit to the platform for free expression here on Avalon with Bill, Star Tsar, TinTin, BlueGreen, GracyMay, and all of the mods present and past, as well as the equally inquisitive, informed, questioning and heartfelt members here for a lot of the inspiration for my writing. As this has been my only digital writing space, outside of personal emails and an occasional, pen written letter, it has been a very unique outlet for me, and I'm sure the same for others.

It is a fact that I am grateful to constantly acknowledge, in addition to eliciting the insights shared from so many members here, who rarely need anything else than knowing that their thoughts and their wisdoms are the most valuable assets that Project Avalon has to offer.

The Welcome Mat here is surely one of the few in this world with such qualities of true egalitarian acceptance, and even comfort, for the many whose expressions alone are sometimes the most powerful healing methods known to themselves and others. In the prayers I know, it's called Soonee-eh.....Listening...Soonee-eh Deep......... ...... ... .

The unique space here has given us all the time to explore expression on deeper levels. It seems simple on the surface, but we don't know how much effort it has taken Bill and the Mods to keep it that way, a fact of life for the most highly skilled in any field.

I don't know how many here know this, but just letting thoughts and insights flow while writing, without any preparation about content tells me a lot about consciousness and intent. My proof is how often I quickly write a post, editing, adding, subtracting...as I save each draft, even if it just adding or subtracting a letter, all in the effort to get the expressions within writing right.

I often rewrite and edit many of the posts I've written here. My growth as a soul writing has been to immediately do all of that editing as soon as I write, so the post posting editing is less often. Either way, I am so grateful for those opportunities to do so.

This also shows me a big difference between my own thought processes, free flowing conversation and doing my best to be complete and aware while writing. It also has helped me be more succinct in sharing ideas and in awakening the deeper listening that talking develops, an asset that is more valuable than writing itself, but maybe one which cannot be found unless we let the writing out, a cosmic quid pro quo, even as I, like many here, don't hold many of those rules fast.


Talking Trees and their Real Voices...

I opened the back door this morning and saw more apricots on the ground waiting to be picked up, cleaned and saved for making jam. The little river that feeds the tree, with its bands of stilled water, was now holding the fruit that just hours ago was carried down the acequia to parts unknown.

The tree was also waiting and watching, as we have shared a lot of time and space over the years, me being the only slightly conscious one in this relationship. In this understanding I have, since before I could speak or write, known that the living plants beside us also have an evolving and adaptogenic essence. Sometimes it touches us and shares the sweetness that is its speech, its writing, its talking and always its love, shared in some ways we know of and in other ways we don't yet........

I was standing with a hand on one of the branches a week ago, wondering when the almost invisible fruit would begin to ripen and be ready for harvest. Just then the tree dropped an apricot right past my left shoulder and down to the ground right next to my left foot. I was listening .... and wowed at her immediate response.

I have also noticed the adaptation that this certain tree had gone thru during these times of so much stress, just being here on this planet with all of the minute and unhealthy particles being sprayed from so far above, chemtrailed skies and governmental lies, tracking roads in the heavens that were never meant to be and harming those that we love and need, to even live here. This tree had developed a camouflage that I had not noticed before.

The tree, and yesterday I felt a peculiar pressure to not just call it a tree but to give it a name, which is what happens when at least a portion of our lives is spent overvaluing the importance of words connected to thought...

The tree's response was funny to hear.....

I'm okay....When you truly wake up... the things we share that I value are not bound by words....We've been doing this all along...since we were both very young...
If a tree could laugh...

Well, the tree had given the apricots the precise and exact same color as the leaves, until they are about to ripen and fall. In the past many years I had always been able to see them within the branch structure weeks before they were ripe. This time it is different. And something else.

I noticed that in many places the leaves were curled up and around the apricots.....again, something that had never happened before, or that I had not seen with these eyes before.

Our love, our expressions are also that protection and prompting, this space given by some unknown yet vital grace we have traveled in and out of time to gift to ourselves...

[7he5ource]

arent the machines running man, ?

[ExomatrixTV]

We Need to Talk about TikTok Mass Data Mining AND possible future A.I. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-) uses?:

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"This is BEYOND your wildest imagination" ... Joe Rogan as he delves into the intrusive nature of TikTok and the potential threats to your privacy. With recent revelations about cross-platform spying and uncanny suggestions based on private conversations, the question arises: Does TikTok listen to our conversations? And if so, what do they do with our data?

Joe Rogan explores the origins and rapid rise of TikTok, shedding light on its Chinese ownership and the concerns surrounding data security. While there's no definitive proof of American data being passed to Chinese officials, the fact remains that all companies in China are legally obligated to comply with government requests for information.

The video highlights disturbing instances of TikTok's data collection practices, including the transfer of private user data to servers in China and potential breaches of European data rules. Investigations have also raised concerns about national security and political content censorship. With the inability to summon TikTok executives to the Senate, the implications become even more unsettling.

Joe Rogan examines the differences between TikTok and other social media platforms like Facebook, emphasizing that TikTok's ownership by a Chinese company makes it subject to Chinese government demands. He delves into historical examples of power misuse and the potential risks associated with having personal data accessible to the government.


Fact Check: Communist Tiktok CEO Testifies To Congress! (https://rumble.com/v2efgzc--live-daily-show-louder-with-crowder.html)
Is TikTok Dangerous? Full App Analysis - Part 1 of 2 (https://rumble.com/v2gegvj-is-tiktok-dangerous-full-app-analysis-part-1-of-2.html)
A.I. is Progressing Faster Than You Think! (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-)

[kfm27917]

https://youtu.be/TOaYkdiNuiw

AI's Fatal Flaw

[Delight]

This conversation is one I am finding very thought provoking. It talks about so many things but one that stood out for me is "the mandela effect". Jason Breshear has theorized that Artificial Intelligence X is ancient and we are in a simulacrum. IF we are embedded in a "program" and IF there is an external realm, COULD the mandela effect be a communication to those who are awakening in the program? Listen here from 37:52 as it is very intriguing. I have listened to Jason off and on for a couple of years and think he is sincere.

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[Frankie Pancakes]

Google’s hastily rolled out AI Overview feature is disastrously broken, returning searches claiming that people should spread glue on pizzas, eat rocks, and that it’s safe for pregnant women to smoke cigarettes.

https://modernity.news/2024/05/28/googles-woke-ai-is-hilariously-but-frighteningly-broken/

[ThePythonicCow]

Sabine Hossenfelder, who is a former physicist and now a Youtuber usually commenting on physics, and whose Youtube videos I enjoy listening to (she's got a quick sense of humor), critiques AI as a tool to write software.

Here she's talking specifically about the new AI fad, large language models, that can engage with users in ordinary human languages.

She concludes that AI does not and in its current incarnations, will not, serve that purpose well. It doesn't "think" like a good programmer needs to think, with quite technically specific meanings to specific symbols and words.

I totally agree. I may be like an old farrier (equine hoof care specialist) complaining that Model T mechanics will never know their horses properly ... but if that's my limitation, so be it.

Sabine had fun with this one ... enjoy listening.

I Didn’t Believe that AI is the Future of Coding. I Was Right:
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The above is not to say that I might not have nascent designs in my mind for using AI ... but it would be more focused applications, where the serious "software engineering" architecting and much of the precision "nuts and bolts" programming was in my hands, and it would just be a specific sort of pattern matching task that was being spoon fed to my local AI engine. I can imagine using such in either the Avalon forum firewall or the Avalon Library search function ... don't hold your breath however.

[petra]

I sometimes wonder if i AM an ai
I mean, how tf would i tell the difference
Not that it matters what I am or anything .. seen as i can't help it anyway

Dunno about you guys but I get a sneaking feeling about this AI stuff, like it uh.... already happened?