As below so above! Communication?

[spiritguide]

The following article is about communication at the celular level. Consider the fact that we are composed of millions of cells. If they can why can't we?

Link to article.... http://phys.org/news/2013-02-psychic-cells-scientists-physical-barriers.html#jCp

Article lead in....

'Psychic cells': Scientists discover cells can communicate through physical barriers
February 1, 2013 by Kim Irwin

(Phys.org)—Scientists at UCLA and Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science have discovered a possible method by which cancer cells and dying cells communicate with nearby normal nerve cells without being physically connected to them.

Just another point to ponder. IMHO

[ghostrider]

I know a person that had cancer and had scarlett fever as a child, and the scarlett fever cells created capsules around the cancer , dead cells surrounding living cells keeping the cancer contained and they recovered and it baffled the medical community... I believe cells do talk, every cell in our bodies that lives talks to the other cells... a cut on your skin requires no effort from you , your cells talk and make a bridge together, once divided now united = healed skin...Dolores Cannon speaks that it is good for you to talk to your own body ... it is a living machine , I can't imagine being connected to living things with no communication at all ... I like this stuff, learning about real science about our own bodies and what they can do if we just use a little possibility with an open scientific mind ...

[Shin'Ar]

Is anyone familiar with the Flower of Life depicted in Sacred Geometry?

[spiritguide]

Is anyone familiar with the Flower of Life depicted in Sacred Geometry?

How does the flower of life relate to cell communication? Are you just interested in the flower of life?

[Shin'Ar]

Is anyone familiar with the Flower of Life depicted in Sacred Geometry?

How does the flower of life relate to cell communication? Are you just interested in the flower of life?

Yes, I have great interest in Sacred Geometry.

I ask first to discern what understanding of this there might be here, so I can elaborate further knowing the degree of effort I will have to make to sound somewhat intelligent. lol.

What Spiritguide is speaking about is exactly what the Flower of Life in sacred Geometry refers to. It is precisely where the Ancient Teachings express this As Above, so Below Divine Design of our existence.

This is not new revelation due to microscope observations. This has been known to the human in the ancient past and lost to perversions of bias.

This is the Horton hears a Who fable.

It is my understanding, which is more recently being affirmed by physicists and microbiologists, that everything has a field surrounding it which is connected to the process of a form's vibrations, and depending on it's actual evolved development, may contain various levels of intelligence and awareness.

Science has been studying this phenomenon for decades now.

Every molecule of a form has the very same field of awareness/consciousness that all other molecules of that form have. In this way a form, a human for example, is surrounded and filled with this field of consciousness, their true identity, an energy which uses this form as a vehicle, and every cellular component of that form is imbued with this intelligent energy/sacred fire.

It is for this reason that we see in scientific experiments, the developing cell of a fruit fly, having an intelligence and awareness which enables it to choose to develop one set of wings or two as it continues to grow. This baffles the minds of those biologists who have been closed minded about considering such ingrained intelligent energy, as these types of scientists refuse to believe that without a complete and fully functioning brain, there can be no form of intelligence.

However scientists like Sheldrake and Lipton have been working on the cutting edge of these new revelations and understandings and have proven that cells are somehow thinking and choosing based upon their awareness of their environment, even though they have no developed brain.

Genetic makeup and development was always believed to be the result of cellular division coded into the genes, but it was never thought that this coding was intelligence, rather simple design. But more recent scientific discovery has proven that there is intelligence at work at the molecular level that supersedes and acts regardless of genetic coding.

This The Ancients have known for thousands of years. This science has left far behind because it was not considered worthy of inspection, because science believes that only matters with proof and evidence realized by scientific procedure, should be considered as science.

Now, Sacred Geometry, as is Astrology and Alchemy, and many of the Fields of Divination, is not concerned with how science chooses to establish worth, and in Sacred Geometry we can see the workings of this intelligent energy and Divine Design, which Spirit Guide has opened for discussion.

The Flower of Life contains all of the Platonic Solids observed in the science of geometry.

It is found throughout the Earth as a sacred aspect of many cultures.

It also coincidentally reveals that many of the world's sacred sites coincide with points of reference in this design, and can actually be accurately and precisely seen if one joins the global points of each of these sacred sites together. This connecting of the dots manifests as the Flower of Life surrounding the globe of our planet. Many theories arise around such observation and revelation, however to each his own in that regard.

Regardless of what one chooses to do with such information, and how it fits into their particular paths of subjection and discernment, it cannot be denied that this Design answers directly to the topic being discussed regarding the intelligence ingrained into a single cell, and its correlation with a form which would result as the continuing development of that cell.

In this Flower of Life, we see both the microcosmic singular cell/circle, and by the Divine Process established into this Design, we see also in its macro-cosmic evolution. All the result of one continuing infinite process of evolution from the One to the Many. The very essence of creation.

We see the single circle and how many of them proceeding according to Design, become both The One and The All. What is most obvious when considered in greater depths, is that this 'Divine Process of Being' is seen in every stage of this process, from The One extending and evolving into each and every aspect of its process and progression.

This has been the teaching implement of The Ancients for thousands of years, simply because it was revealed to them countless eons ago, and because it so perfectly depicts the process of intelligent consciousness evolving from One Consciousness to many fragments of it, all connected by One Divine and indisputable Process of Being.

To anyone interested in such things, I highly recommend a brief encounter with Sacred Geometry. The ability to comprehend such things is not dependent on intuitive development, but can be easily observed by anyone with some degree of intelligence. Also observe how the Quaballah Tree of Life fits perfectly into this design.

http://i.imgur.com/1lT7KMX.jpg

I have not read through the site I offer for information in entirety so I do not claim to support their teachings, but this does seem to offer a good depiction of the shapes and the ancient places they can be seen around the world.

http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/sacred_geometry_the_flower_of_life.htm

[spiritguide]

It is all related isn't it Shin'Ar. Thank you for the response and always feel free to elaborate on any of my threads. Thank you!

[Shin'Ar]

It is all related isn't it Shin'Ar. Thank you for the response and always feel free to elaborate on any of my threads. Thank you!

Yes, Spiritguide, everything is connected at so many various points, that it is certainly accurate to suppose that all is one.

But I think that as we discern the true meaning of 'As above, so below', one should try to understand that the Oneness is not the result of anything that 'they' have done as some almighty being, but rather that, because of the being of some much greater intelligent awareness, the aware consciousness that 'we'[ contain is able to experience and comprehend/speculate on this existence, and 'our' place in it.

In other words, even though all the puzzle pieces fitting together seem to point to a fuller picture of Oneness, there should be an always present effort to discern between that Oneness and the very ancient reason WHY that Oneness is fragmented into countless experiences.

This is the true reasoning behind 'As Above, so Below', despite the many attempts of New Agers to use it to support their claims of omniscience and omnipotence.

There are lower and higher processes involved in the expanding of the Flower of Life, as well as an energy/Sacred Fire fueling that process which does not originate with any of our temporary identities. And in this Process of Being, in my humble opinion of course, the human experience is not among the higher states of being that will be experienced as our fields of consciousness evolve. It may not be as low, by comparison, as many other states of being that our consciousness may have experienced in its evolutionary development, but I would be comfortable stating that the human experience is certainly far from what most of us would speculate to be a higher state of being.

What would you suppose in that regard Spiritguide?

I am curious what you would think would be a higher state of being, and especially in comparison to our present state of being as humans.

Thank you for acknowledging me, friend.

[spiritguide]

To me our higher state is one of all encompassing energy that transfixes all. Human is the condition we find ourselves in but not our true nature. Universalistic I am and being a part of it's manifestation is it's gift to me for which I am ever grateful. It is the wisdom of the ancients/ancestors that guides me on this journey for it is what it is. We all have halos, we just don't take the opportunity to stop and care for them. To me new age is old age if that makes sense.

:peace:

[Shin'Ar]

To me our higher state is one of all encompassing energy that transfixes all. Human is the condition we find ourselves in but not our true nature. To me new age is old age if that makes sense.

:peace:



SP,

When you say that you are Universalistic, are you speaking of a particular following, or your own philosophy in general?

When you say new age is old age, I understand exactly what you mean. They call it New Age because it is supposed to be based upon enlightenment that was not attached to any of the old right hand path teachings. However most of this New Age movement is simply more of the same old same old. They are just refreshing it and revising it to meet their own satisfactions. It is no different than what any other religion has done with information in order to appease their own thought processes and belief/faith choices.

This is not New. This has been ongoing for thousands of years and is the very origin of most religion.

As you noted, higher state of being is not managing to manipulate a version of faith into something we can agree on. It is simply becoming aware of one's true state of existence as something far more elaborate than the human experience.

This human experience can be one of many lessons and can be both wonderful and painful. This opportunity should be considered for its worth and lived to the fullest in effort to evolve even higher, as we are naturally designed to do. But in that course, we should at some point come to the awareness that it is not all that there is, nor should it be all that we aspire to.

What is the background of your experience SP?

[Fractalius]

Hi Shin'Ar, I like when geometry and the golden ratio are mentioned. What's the golden ratio again? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

It is half phi.
The forms that animal, mineral, and vegetable take, all adhere to this powerful ratio of 1:1.618

From my own observations, chiefly as a visual artist, this ratio dictates much of what humans feel to be visual harmony.

For example, someone might arrange objects on a table aesthetically. Afterwards you can see from all the arranging, they have been 'tuned' to the golden ratio. In many ways I have come to consider the act of making or doing, as the act of tuning things to the golden ratio.

sorry for being both vague and general.

I was trying to relate this back to the thread topic, but failed miserably getting the point across!

Other times, I have over laid (projected) a flower of life transparency over top of "good" and "bad" art. The amount of intersecting points between the artworks composition and the flower of life's design was astounding.

The harmonious images had more or stronger intersections, whilst the chaotic or bad images, had very few intersections, or seemed to intentionally subvert the design, almost perfectly... which I guess is also an expression of the ratio.

[Shin'Ar]

Still on topic Fractiliias.

We were discussing the communication at cellular level, the So Below aspect of the OP.

Yes, I also am fascinated with Sacred Geometry. have you actually studied any of the FreeMasonry Teachings at all?

The Golden Ratio is like their Holy Grail.

[Fractalius]

Yes just as the Quaballah is held as the holy grail too. And the flower of life, tree of life, seed of life trinity. But no I cant claim to know much in depth about Freemasonry.
http://www.ka-gold-jewelry.com/images/model-contest/1179272509.jpg
The seed of life and Metatron's cube / fruit of life.

[spiritguide]

To me our higher state is one of all encompassing energy that transfixes all. Human is the condition we find ourselves in but not our true nature. To me new age is old age if that makes sense.

:peace:



SP,

When you say that you are Universalistic, are you speaking of a particular following, or your own philosophy in general?

This self imposed label is my path on this plane, not a following.

When you say new age is old age, I understand exactly what you mean. They call it New Age because it is supposed to be based upon enlightenment that was not attached to any of the old right hand path teachings. However most of this New Age movement is simply more of the same old same old. They are just refreshing it and revising it to meet their own satisfactions. It is no different than what any other religion has done with information in order to appease their own thought processes and belief/faith choices.

This is not New. This has been ongoing for thousands of years and is the very origin of most religion.

As you noted, higher state of being is not managing to manipulate a version of faith into something we can agree on. It is simply becoming aware of one's true state of existence as something far more elaborate than the human experience.

This human experience can be one of many lessons and can be both wonderful and painful. This opportunity should be considered for its worth and lived to the fullest in effort to evolve even higher, as we are naturally designed to do. But in that course, we should at some point come to the awareness that it is not all that there is, nor should it be all that we aspire to.

What is the background of your experience SP?

Could you elaborate on this question please.

[Shin'Ar]

To me our higher state is one of all encompassing energy that transfixes all. Human is the condition we find ourselves in but not our true nature. To me new age is old age if that makes sense.

:peace:



SP,

When you say that you are Universalistic, are you speaking of a particular following, or your own philosophy in general?

This self imposed label is my path on this plane, not a following.

When you say new age is old age, I understand exactly what you mean. They call it New Age because it is supposed to be based upon enlightenment that was not attached to any of the old right hand path teachings. However most of this New Age movement is simply more of the same old same old. They are just refreshing it and revising it to meet their own satisfactions. It is no different than what any other religion has done with information in order to appease their own thought processes and belief/faith choices.

This is not New. This has been ongoing for thousands of years and is the very origin of most religion.

As you noted, higher state of being is not managing to manipulate a version of faith into something we can agree on. It is simply becoming aware of one's true state of existence as something far more elaborate than the human experience.

This human experience can be one of many lessons and can be both wonderful and painful. This opportunity should be considered for its worth and lived to the fullest in effort to evolve even higher, as we are naturally designed to do. But in that course, we should at some point come to the awareness that it is not all that there is, nor should it be all that we aspire to.

What is the background of your experience SP?

Could you elaborate on this question please.


What I meant was that I tend to define myself by my own labels, and not those which require a following of practitioners to define the character of the label wearer.

In other words I myself do not adhere to any particular label, other then one that I would denote myself.