Tesla_WTC_Solution
2nd February 2013, 21:49
edit @ 2/3/2013 JAYBEE added: It straddles the 33 degree North latitude...and if you go by the old Paris meridian,
rather than Greenwich...it is 33 degrees, (near as damn-it) East.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfiguration_of_Jesus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tabor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tabor,_Portland,_Oregon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses
Hello there everyone!
Did you know the Bible has a time travel story in it?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Transfiguration_by_Lodovico_Carracci.jpg/360px-Transfiguration_by_Lodovico_Carracci.jpg
I noticed some of you here on Avalon like to talk about the Bible.
When I joined Avalon, I made the comment in my application,
"I don't know and I don't care" in regards to religion!
---
^That simply was a lie -- and in fact I do care a great deal.
I just don't know a whole lot, right? there is a difference.
I shouldn't have said that I didn't care about it.
---
Well, there are a lot of people who don't like to talk about the moral issues in the Bible, and that is largely fine. Pain is the great teacher and all. :eyebrows: But there are a whole lot of other things to look at within those dusty pages, you know? It's not every day we hold an artifact in our hands, after all.
---
Back to our topic, I wanted to ask you a question about Jesus Christ.
Assuming he existed, which most people do basically believe on the surface, do you think he was special beyond his pedigree? Beyond the prophecies and social grooming, did he have anything going for him? Was he anything more than a moderately educated carpenter's son?
Now, to answer that question, before Jesus' hand turned water into wine, there was a mountain in Palestine. Mount Tabor. And that, friends, is where our conversation begins.
Mount Tabor (Hebrew: הַר תָּבוֹר, Arabic: جبل الطور, Greek: Όρος Θαβώρ) is located in Lower Galilee, Israel, at the eastern end of the Jezreel Valley, 11 miles (18 km) west of the Sea of Galilee. It was the site of the Mount Tabor battle between Barak under the leadership of the Israelite judge Deborah, and the army of Jabin commanded by Sisera, in the mid 14th century BCE. It is believed by many Christians to be the site of the Transfiguration of Jesus.[1] It is also known as Har Tavor, Itabyrium, Jebel et-Tur, and the Mount of Transfiguration.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Mount_tabor_from_mount_carmel_1912.jpg/495px-Mount_tabor_from_mount_carmel_1912.jpg
Mount Tabor is a holy place. Like Sinai or Ararat, or even Tzoodzil. It's a place where energies collide. A focus, a nexus, a centering place. The marriage of earth and heaven. Where men go up and God comes down. The place where fire is.
---
Some of you believe in Heaven. Some of you believe in reincarnation. Some of you believe that this physical experience is all that there is. And in your own way, each of you is right. It depends on what needs to be done and why.
---
What I wonder is why Jesus had to come here. Why he couldn't just reach out his hand from over the realms and ages and save me and each of my "other selves" directly. Why did he come to earth and live such a small, human, "missable" sort of life, and depend on us miserable people to tell his story, instead of manifesting it the way nature manifests its own beauty -- directly, and eternally, powerfully. Why did Jesus use such a Mercurial method of reaching into the fire? Why is God a whisper and not a whirlwind?
---
But I guess when I read the Bible, I see that Jesus allowed himself some breaks from his human limitations. But only when he was doing the will of God. He turned water into wine, but he couldn't turn away the whip and thorn. He fed a thousand people, but he starved in the wilderness. He comforted the dying but found so few answers to his own recorded prayers. Why would someone do that for us?
---
What happened on Mount Tabor? This article was supposed to be about the Transfiguration, like, time and space travel, synchronicity. But it turned into a look at Jesus. It's hard not to look.
In the days of Second Temple, Mount Tabor was one of the mountain peaks on which it was the custom to light beacons in order to inform the northern villages of Jewish holy days and of beginnings of new months.
Mount Tabor was like the signal fires in Lord of the Rings to ancient Judea. When you saw the fire on the mountain, you knew something special was happening. Something holy. Something had changed and you were invited to it. Like Prometheus descending.
When Jesus took his beloved disciples up that mountain, he was showing them a great secret that not all of the other apostles got to see. He wanted to show them that death, truly, is not the end. Knowing that they had no way to measure his own greatness, Christ summoned some souls that He knew his followers would recognize.
Moses, and Elijah. Those were the souls Jesus called to himself on the Mountain. Moses who died without reaching the Promised Land, and Elijah who was taken up into Heaven by the fiery chariot and horses of God Himself. And Jesus with a thought made the circle whole. He brought Moses into the promised land and he returned the blessing of Elijah to the holy place. He brought a message of such hope.
But I am getting ahead of myself. Not all of you know this story.
Who did Jesus take with him and when? Before he was arrested and killed, he asked Peter, James, and John to accompany him on a climb up one of Israel's most holy places.
http://mommymystic.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/torch.gif
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfiguration_of_Jesus
In the Gospels, Jesus takes Peter, James, son of Zebedee and John the Apostle with him and goes up to a mountain, which is not named. Once on the mountain, Matthew (17:2) states that Jesus "was transfigured before them; his face shining as the sun, and his garments became white as the light." At that point the prophets Elijah and Moses appear and Jesus begins to talk to them.[1] Luke is specific in describing Jesus in a state of glory, with Luke 9:32 referring to "they saw his glory".[13]
There are no words to describe the above encounter. I find myself unable to express the importance and significance of Christ's power in bringing the spirits of Moses and Elijah to him in the sight of the apostles. The law and deliverance from the law. And life.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTjx38xBBjaki5Eao0eOFNU2NlzXNTkIG9W5tyTl0moLR9A5k91AQ
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bYK6cv_yOzg/UI-oJlpl4GI/AAAAAAAAA6E/ZDViMObpWvw/s1600/elijah.jpg
______________________________________________________________________
http://uploads2.wikipaintings.org/images/anthony-van-dyck/christ-on-the-cross-1627.jpg!Blog.jpg
I hope he was real and that he gave us eternal life.
rather than Greenwich...it is 33 degrees, (near as damn-it) East.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfiguration_of_Jesus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tabor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tabor,_Portland,_Oregon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses
Hello there everyone!
Did you know the Bible has a time travel story in it?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Transfiguration_by_Lodovico_Carracci.jpg/360px-Transfiguration_by_Lodovico_Carracci.jpg
I noticed some of you here on Avalon like to talk about the Bible.
When I joined Avalon, I made the comment in my application,
"I don't know and I don't care" in regards to religion!
---
^That simply was a lie -- and in fact I do care a great deal.
I just don't know a whole lot, right? there is a difference.
I shouldn't have said that I didn't care about it.
---
Well, there are a lot of people who don't like to talk about the moral issues in the Bible, and that is largely fine. Pain is the great teacher and all. :eyebrows: But there are a whole lot of other things to look at within those dusty pages, you know? It's not every day we hold an artifact in our hands, after all.
---
Back to our topic, I wanted to ask you a question about Jesus Christ.
Assuming he existed, which most people do basically believe on the surface, do you think he was special beyond his pedigree? Beyond the prophecies and social grooming, did he have anything going for him? Was he anything more than a moderately educated carpenter's son?
Now, to answer that question, before Jesus' hand turned water into wine, there was a mountain in Palestine. Mount Tabor. And that, friends, is where our conversation begins.
Mount Tabor (Hebrew: הַר תָּבוֹר, Arabic: جبل الطور, Greek: Όρος Θαβώρ) is located in Lower Galilee, Israel, at the eastern end of the Jezreel Valley, 11 miles (18 km) west of the Sea of Galilee. It was the site of the Mount Tabor battle between Barak under the leadership of the Israelite judge Deborah, and the army of Jabin commanded by Sisera, in the mid 14th century BCE. It is believed by many Christians to be the site of the Transfiguration of Jesus.[1] It is also known as Har Tavor, Itabyrium, Jebel et-Tur, and the Mount of Transfiguration.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Mount_tabor_from_mount_carmel_1912.jpg/495px-Mount_tabor_from_mount_carmel_1912.jpg
Mount Tabor is a holy place. Like Sinai or Ararat, or even Tzoodzil. It's a place where energies collide. A focus, a nexus, a centering place. The marriage of earth and heaven. Where men go up and God comes down. The place where fire is.
---
Some of you believe in Heaven. Some of you believe in reincarnation. Some of you believe that this physical experience is all that there is. And in your own way, each of you is right. It depends on what needs to be done and why.
---
What I wonder is why Jesus had to come here. Why he couldn't just reach out his hand from over the realms and ages and save me and each of my "other selves" directly. Why did he come to earth and live such a small, human, "missable" sort of life, and depend on us miserable people to tell his story, instead of manifesting it the way nature manifests its own beauty -- directly, and eternally, powerfully. Why did Jesus use such a Mercurial method of reaching into the fire? Why is God a whisper and not a whirlwind?
---
But I guess when I read the Bible, I see that Jesus allowed himself some breaks from his human limitations. But only when he was doing the will of God. He turned water into wine, but he couldn't turn away the whip and thorn. He fed a thousand people, but he starved in the wilderness. He comforted the dying but found so few answers to his own recorded prayers. Why would someone do that for us?
---
What happened on Mount Tabor? This article was supposed to be about the Transfiguration, like, time and space travel, synchronicity. But it turned into a look at Jesus. It's hard not to look.
In the days of Second Temple, Mount Tabor was one of the mountain peaks on which it was the custom to light beacons in order to inform the northern villages of Jewish holy days and of beginnings of new months.
Mount Tabor was like the signal fires in Lord of the Rings to ancient Judea. When you saw the fire on the mountain, you knew something special was happening. Something holy. Something had changed and you were invited to it. Like Prometheus descending.
When Jesus took his beloved disciples up that mountain, he was showing them a great secret that not all of the other apostles got to see. He wanted to show them that death, truly, is not the end. Knowing that they had no way to measure his own greatness, Christ summoned some souls that He knew his followers would recognize.
Moses, and Elijah. Those were the souls Jesus called to himself on the Mountain. Moses who died without reaching the Promised Land, and Elijah who was taken up into Heaven by the fiery chariot and horses of God Himself. And Jesus with a thought made the circle whole. He brought Moses into the promised land and he returned the blessing of Elijah to the holy place. He brought a message of such hope.
But I am getting ahead of myself. Not all of you know this story.
Who did Jesus take with him and when? Before he was arrested and killed, he asked Peter, James, and John to accompany him on a climb up one of Israel's most holy places.
http://mommymystic.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/torch.gif
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfiguration_of_Jesus
In the Gospels, Jesus takes Peter, James, son of Zebedee and John the Apostle with him and goes up to a mountain, which is not named. Once on the mountain, Matthew (17:2) states that Jesus "was transfigured before them; his face shining as the sun, and his garments became white as the light." At that point the prophets Elijah and Moses appear and Jesus begins to talk to them.[1] Luke is specific in describing Jesus in a state of glory, with Luke 9:32 referring to "they saw his glory".[13]
There are no words to describe the above encounter. I find myself unable to express the importance and significance of Christ's power in bringing the spirits of Moses and Elijah to him in the sight of the apostles. The law and deliverance from the law. And life.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTjx38xBBjaki5Eao0eOFNU2NlzXNTkIG9W5tyTl0moLR9A5k91AQ
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bYK6cv_yOzg/UI-oJlpl4GI/AAAAAAAAA6E/ZDViMObpWvw/s1600/elijah.jpg
______________________________________________________________________
http://uploads2.wikipaintings.org/images/anthony-van-dyck/christ-on-the-cross-1627.jpg!Blog.jpg
I hope he was real and that he gave us eternal life.