How an imaginary enemy was created.

[Tony]

'What is', has been turned into 'what if',
and a lie was born and maintained.
How an imaginary enemy was created.

cHAwbYpRGkQ

[SKAWF]

oooh.....

sorry to nit pick.....

but the group does actually exist.

the lie... or fallacy is that they are their own creation.
they were created by the united states to take on the russians in afghanistan

and then used as the enemy to justify all the wars which are now taking place.

so they are a false enemy... but they do actually exist.

cheers

[Wind]

http://www.nela.in/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/George-Bush-Phone.gif

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/f/f9/Obama_Bin_Laden.jpg

http://cvillewords.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/bcover66.jpg

[turiya]

Understanding a bit of the history, what "Operation Gladio" was about & what it had morphed into, this will help explain the entire State sponsored 'War on Terror' paradigm.

Operation Gladio:

"You were not suppose to attack the State or its representatives. You were suppose to attack civilians, women & children… innocent people outside the political arena for one simple reason, to force the public to turn to the State… to turn to the regime and ask for greater security... it was called the “Strategy of Tension”" [i.e., Problem, Reaction, Solution] -- Vincenzo Vinciguerra, former member of neo-fascist group L'Ordine Nuovo (The New Order)

Here's an excerpt, from where the above quote comes, the 2-1/2 hour BBC Full documentary "Operation Gladio". Perhaps, many here may see a similar description as to what is relevant in the world today... and, perhaps, what may soon be coming to a neighborhood near you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OtDAc5QQSU&feature=youtu.be
"Operation Gladio" Full 2-1/2 hour Documentary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OtDAc5QQSU&feature=youtu.be

Another "Must Watch Video- Operation Gladio Part I: From Neo-Fascists to Mujahedeen (aka Al Qaeda)
Friday, 1. February 2013

Unveiling the Curtain on the West’s Strategically Orchestrated & Executed Global Terror Campaign

This groundbreaking investigative video report is Part I of series on Operation Gladio produced by James Corbett of Corbett Report. The episode includes an introduction to Operation Gladio and interviews with Sibel Edmonds and Tom Secker.

As one of the most thoroughly-documented examples of a decades-long program of officially-sanctioned false flag terror, Operation Gladio remains a woefully under-reported piece of the War on Terror puzzle. Today we go behind the trite summarizations of this program to look at it in-depth, examine its roots, and discover how it is continuing to operate right through to the present day.

We urge you to help us disseminate this program and expose the ‘Criminal States’ Secrets.’ Thank You." -- James Corbett


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsWHafahbvs&feature=player_embedded#!
Full Interview 595 – Sibel Edmonds on NATO, Terrorism, 9/11 and Drug Running: http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-595-sibel-edmonds-on-nato-terrorism-911-and-drug-running/

Full Interview 582 – Tom Secker on Operation Gladio:
http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-582-tom-secker-on-operation-gladio/

Hillary Clinton: The U.S. Created al Qaeda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqn0bm4E9yw&feature=player_embedded

turiya

[Tangri]

Understanding a bit of the history, what "Operation Gladio" was about & what it had morphed into, this will help explain the entire State sponsored 'War on Terror' paradigm.

Operation Gladio:

"You were not suppose to attack the State or its representatives. You were suppose to attack civilians, women & children… innocent people outside the political arena for one simple reason, to force the public to turn to the State… to turn to the regime and ask for greater security... it was called the “Strategy of Tension”" [i.e., Problem, Reaction, Solution] -- Vincenzo Vinciguerra, former member of neo-fascist group L'Ordine Nuovo (The New Order)

Here's an excerpt, from where the above quote comes, the 2-1/2 hour BBC Full documentary "Operation Gladio". Perhaps, many here may see a similar description as to what is relevant in the world today... and, perhaps, what may soon be coming to a neighborhood near you.


"Operation Gladio" Full 2-1/2 hour Documentary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OtDAc5QQSU&feature=youtu.be

Another "Must Watch Video- Operation Gladio Part I: From Neo-Fascists to Mujahedeen (aka Al Qaeda)
Friday, 1. February 2013

Unveiling the Curtain on the West’s Strategically Orchestrated & Executed Global Terror Campaign

This groundbreaking investigative video report is Part I of series on Operation Gladio produced by James Corbett of Corbett Report. The episode includes an introduction to Operation Gladio and interviews with Sibel Edmonds and Tom Secker.

As one of the most thoroughly-documented examples of a decades-long program of officially-sanctioned false flag terror, Operation Gladio remains a woefully under-reported piece of the War on Terror puzzle. Today we go behind the trite summarizations of this program to look at it in-depth, examine its roots, and discover how it is continuing to operate right through to the present day.

We urge you to help us disseminate this program and expose the ‘Criminal States’ Secrets.’ Thank You." -- James Corbett


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsWHafahbvs&feature=player_embedded#!
Full Interview 595 – Sibel Edmonds on NATO, Terrorism, 9/11 and Drug Running: http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-595-sibel-edmonds-on-nato-terrorism-911-and-drug-running/

Full Interview 582 – Tom Secker on Operation Gladio:
http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-582-tom-secker-on-operation-gladio/

Hillary Clinton: The U.S. Created al Qaeda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqn0bm4E9yw&feature=player_embedded

turiya

DHKP-C) Devrimci Halk Kurtulus Parsisi- Cephesi Revolutionary People's Liberation Party-Front is a shadow group who works for old NATO -Gladio section their leader Dursun Karatas is a CIA operative. Their screen events show anti American acts but in reality they do not harm real American-nor anti corporate benefits. Their action (false flags) and intend are, help to augment Zionist-Nazi movement.
If you see their name in some event you should think as a American secret government's business. Their leader team live in France under protection of USA.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55095-Turkey-blast-Suicide-bomber-strikes-US-Embassy-in-Ankara&p=627977#post627977

[turiya]

Watching the following video will yield a better insight into Sibel Edmonds' Whistle Blower Background:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BUG1Y9fOOs

turiya

[turiya]

Tangri wrote:


DHKP-C) Devrimci Halk Kurtulus Parsisi- Cephesi Revolutionary People's Liberation Party-Front is a shadow group who works for old NATO -Gladio section their leader Dursun Karatas is a CIA operative. Their screen events show anti American acts but in reality they do not harm real American-nor anti corporate benefits. Their action (false flags) and intend are, help to augment Zionist-Nazi movement.
If you see their name in some event you should think as a American secret government's business. Their leader team live in France under protection of USA.

Thank you Tangri. I just came back to post an article written by Kurt Nimmo, when I saw your reply.
The intended original vid was wiped, so I included another to his article as stated:

GLADIO LIVES: Provocateur Marxist Group Bombs U.S. Embassy in Turkey
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
February 1, 2013

U.S. officials would like to blame al-Qaeda for Friday’s suicide bombing at the U.S. embassy in Ankara, Turkey, but the country’s prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has placed blame squarely on the Revolutionary People’s Liberation Party-Front, or DHKP/C.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i2YYqrylO4
[Original video has been deleted]

“Turkish media identified the bomber as Ecevit Şanli, allegedly a 30-year-old member of the outlawed Revolutionary People’s Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C),” the Washington Post reported after Erdogan’s comment.

DHKP/C is described as Marxist-Leninist and until recently considered a relic of a bygone era. The group is officially described as a splinter group of a splinter group going back to the Revolutionary Youth Federation, a communist organization that emerged out of Turkey’s Federation of Idea Clubs. It is said to oppose the Turkish establishment, NATO and the U.S. and stands accused of killing retired generals, a former justice minister and a businessman.

In January, the Turkish government carried a number of sensationalistic arrests of people allegedly connected to the outlawed group officially listed as a terrorist group by Turkey, Europe and the United States.

Despite news coverage of the arrests and today’s suicide bombing at the embassy killing a security guard and the suspected bomber, few news organizations and journalists have bothered to report the fact there is plenty of evidence indicating the DHKP/C is a Gladio-like “strategy of tension” black op.

Like the CIA’s Gladio in Italy, Turkey’s clandestine and neo-fascist Ergenekon organization engaged in widespread Terrorism subsequently blamed on leftist groups. Maureen Freely writes that following a military coup in Turkey, the “deep state” – described as a group of influential fascist coalitions within Turkey’s intelligence services and organized crime syndicates – funded and armed left and rightwing paramilitary groups that fought pitched battles in the streets and destabilized the country’s fragile political system.

Like its Italian counterpart, Ergenekon enjoyed the support of the CIA and the Pentagon, according to sources inside the Turkish military.

Bülent Ecevit, the four-time Prime Minister of Turkey, provided details on the Turkish version of Gladio and its strategy of tension. He said its operations were responsible for killing 38 people and injuring hundreds during the May 1, 1977, Taksim Square massacre in Istanbul.

Legal proceedings against Ergenekon revealed a number of terrorist attacks, including an armed attack on the Turkish Council of State in 2006 that resulted in the murder of a judge, a bombing of a secularist newspaper, attacks carried out against people accused of being unpatriotic, the-called Susurluk incident in 1996 (involving the Turkish government, the military and organized crime), and efforts by groups within the Turkish Armed Force to overthrow the government.

In addition to instigating hatred and exacerbating sectarian violence between Turks and Kurds, Ergenekon stood accused of close ties to DHKP/C during the legal proceedings.

In 2012, Asuman Akça, a former member of DHKP/C was shot in the head before she could testify and make public the ties between the DHKP/C and Ergenekon. The man accused of shooting Akça was a member of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party. He told police the DHKP/C and the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party wanted to kill Akça and prevent her from revealing the group’s links to Ergenekon.

Corporate media reports on the suspected suicide bombing in Turkey have yet to mention the documented ties between Turkey’s “deep state” and the DHKP/C, instead characterizing the shadowy group as merely the product of wild-eye Marxist hatred for NATO, the United States and the ruling elite in Turkey.

Source : http://info-wars.org/2013/02/02/gladio-lives-provocateur-marxist-group-bombs-u-s-embassy-in-turkey/

turiya

[Tangri]

Nice catch Turiya, I have missed Kurt Nimmo's article
Also I have missed Sibel Edmond's story watching now.

[donk]

(Unconscious) Attempted thread-jack removed...carry on with this important and informative thread...thanks and sorry Tony!!

[Tangri]

Soon enough we are going to hear about American Gladio actings in the USA

[turiya]

Is there a possible metaphor here? Or have I been on certain threads too long?

An enemy nearly impossible to detect or even prove exists...supposedly from a completely external source, found to actually conjured from "within", from the top of pyramid.

Maybe I'm reaching, I tend to see reality in fractals...

Hey donk,

No, you got it right. The labeling of the "bad guys" has continually changed, but the guys that are in charge & pulling the strings are the same - namely: psycho/socio-pathic/pathetic power-hungry un-satiated money-junkied retards. They have gotten away with murder (literally) because the masses continue to not want to grow-up and wipe their own behinds & start to be responsible for themselves. Sorry to be blunt, but that is what is obviously the case. I can see that there will be, more than likely, train bombings, more school shootings. in parks, in malls, on beaches, and other public arenas. There is no doubt that the PTB is at the end of their rope, and are making a power move to hang onto what they got... what they think living life is about - controlling others, dominating others, possessing as much wealth as they can.

Those that know how to go within, meditate & trust oneself & existence, will be the best off. There will be no better place to be when the going gets ruff on the outside. In fact, it will make it easier to go within.

Cheers - turiya

[turiya]

Soon enough we are going to hear about American Gladio actings in the USA

I do believe, Tangri, that we already have...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylKWivA3B4M

turiya

[donk]

Heh...noticed when I deleted it, member "Metaphor" was reading the thread! Fractals and fractals...sorry, couldn't resist!

***Lil smiley with dude holding sign saying "back on topic" here***

[Tangri]

Soon enough we are going to hear about American Gladio actings in the USA

I do believe, Tangri, that we already have...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylKWivA3B4M

turiya

Yeah , and they call it with different name "Secret government"

[turiya]

Tangri wrote:

Yeah , and they call it with different name "Secret government"


I have no doubt, Tangri, being obviously aware of such "Secret government" yourself, I post the following for some that may just being pulling their heads out of the sand:

Don't forget that the only individuals detained on September 11, 2001 in connection with that terrorist event were the "Dancing Israelis"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStJ5BgadPs

And, the aware observer will simply take note, as the beat goes on...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvIE-ZE6DB0

t

[Shin'Ar]

I think that 'enemy' is not an accurate way to define the issue.

These things that 'those' would do to deserve the designation are not things that any of us would not also be prone to or attracted to. Maybe not in our present incarnation, but certainly we must admit that the human tendency is more one of greed and self satisfaction then mercy and compassion. This is ,after all, the reason why the elite are able to so easily manage and manipulate us.

We are our own enemies.

Whether AlQueda, or Taliban, religious or political, the many factions of humanity and elite powers, all struggle to achieve their goals, attractions and aspirations. None of these efforts should be considered wrong or right, as we are all subject to them, and have probably been immersed in them at some point in our incarnate experience as human. Is it some higher state of being to be the judge and condemner of those who do not follow our path?

Is there an elite power conspiring to rule the world? Of course; we all know it.

Should the knowledgeable defy them their goal? That is a much more difficult thought process.

If they are the mainstay of what we live in as civilization, are we prepared to give up our luxuries and go back to the caves in order to remove them from their high places? I am sure that most of us are not.

Shall we then simply replace one tyrant with another in the making?

When we ask ourselves that question, then we begin to consider the true depth of the human tendency and how we are all vulnerable to it.

I realize there is a great deal to this conspiracy that I am not aware of, but I think regardless of any feeding or predation, the human tendency twoard self satisfaction is the true enemy.

It is the weapon that we place in their hands, and until we are willing to remove that weapon from them, and sacrifice ourselves for everyone else, we will only be as we are now. It is this sacrifice of self that stands between 'us' and that successful conquest.

Self has always been the problem; the enemy.

Are you ready to sacrifice that self for the other?

If not, then you continue to arm the elite with the only weapon they need, and indeed hold it for them to be unleashed upon you at their leisure.

In individuality/self/satisfaction we are nothing but targets for those who would use that division to their benefit.

In harmonious Oneness, the 'we' and 'I' dissolve into the delusion that they are, and the Elite are suddenly confronted with an evolved humanity which is far more difficult to influence and deceive.

[Tony]

We cannot see the plan with our heads stuck in the sand!




“How fortunate for governments that the people they administrate don't think.”
-Adolf Hitler.



“Naturally, the common people don't want war. Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor America. Nor for that matter, Germany.

That is understood. But people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. 
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce 
the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to danger.

It works the same in any country.” 

-Herman Goering, during the Nuremberg trials. 

[Tony]

If we let history repeat itself, it will repeat itself.


“The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it.”
-Joseph Mengele


Josef Rudolf Mengele (help·info) (German pronunciation: [ˈjoːzɛf ˈʁuːdɔlf ˈmɛŋələ]; 16 March 1911 – 7 February 1979) was a German SS officer and a physician in the Nazi concentration camp Auschwitz. He earned doctorates in anthropology from Munich University and in medicine from Frankfurt University. He initially gained notoriety for being one of the SS physicians who supervised the selection of arriving transports of prisoners, determining who was to be killed and who was to become a forced laborer, but is far more infamous for performing human experiments on camp inmates, including children, for which Mengele was called the "Angel of Death".

[turiya]

"Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe"
--H. G. Wells

And, I especially like the famous George W Bush Quote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuE--xlkTYk

More on al Qaeda Doesn't Exist
"What is hardly ever acknowledged, however, is that the CIA involvement did not start after the Soviets entered Afghanistan, but before the invasion took place."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnV_pNe_BB0

turiya

[Tangri]

Tangri wrote:

Yeah , and they call it with different name "Secret government"


I have no doubt, Tangri, being obviously aware of such "Secret government" yourself, I post the following for some that may just being pulling their heads out of the sand:

Don't forget that the only individuals detained on September 11, 2001 in connection with that terrorist event were the "Dancing Israelis"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStJ5BgadPs


t

To provide direction and guidance to promote the development of effective insider threat programs within departments and agencies to deter, detect, and mitigate actions by employees who may represent a threat to national security. These threats encompass potential espionage, violent acts against the Government or the Nation, and unauthorized disclosure of classified information, including the vast amounts of classified data available on interconnected United States Government computer networks and systems.
OBAMA

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/11/21/presidential-memorandum-national-insider-threat-policy-and-minimum-stand

Most of the population prone to forget by the time. Thanks Avalon we have a library here to find what we were looking for.

[DeDukshyn]

oooh.....

sorry to nit pick.....

but the group does actually exist.

the lie... or fallacy is that they are their own creation.
they were created by the united states to take on the russians in afghanistan

and then used as the enemy to justify all the wars which are now taking place.

so they are a false enemy... but they do actually exist.

cheers

Exactly correct. Created and armed by the CIA to keep the Russians out, for occupation later. In fact if you recall the "fortress" that the US had Al Qeada holed up in in the north was built for them by the CIA! That is how they knew exactly where to drop the "bunker busters" and which ones to use ;)

[deridan]

I stumbled on this quite recently.... a very well written blog article,
that makes the history of faking wars (& covering up true war crimes) seem even older,

http://ajitvadakayil.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/general-eisenhowers-secret-holocaust-of.html

...i searched hitler on avalon [hit on pi's post, but still the themetics fit in with "creating an enemie and under his [false] image {this for the germans was the 'mass killing[?] of jews'}" justifying atrocities. anycase know which WW2 bombing claimed more than the 2 nukes?.. the Dresden carpet bombing!], cause after reading this article i wanted to become acquainted with more theories around his person (i.e. him being an agent plant, or whatever, none of which may be explicitly true, but it does fit pieces into reality, which is far stranger than fiction)

Fascinating in this article was General Patton 'assassination', when he realized that whatever mechanics he saw, was the cannon ball landing on one side of the see-saw, the creation of the isreali state being the upshot from the reparation payments;
and Patton was admirable for being the first american tank commander in north africa in the opening of that campaign.

[bram]

anycase know which WW2 bombing claimed more than the 2 nukes?.. the Dresden carpet bombing!.

Hi Deridan,

Not sure where this equation comes from. Did you count the hundreds of thousands who died from various forms of cancer over the subsequent 50 years from the nukes?

Love, bram.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Pie'n'eal I have posted this and parts of this documentry on lots of
threads always worth posting imo ...Steve



'What is', has been turned into 'what if',
and a lie was born and maintained.
How an imaginary enemy was created.

[lightwalker]

yeesh ! At first glance I thought you wrote imaginary enema

[turiya]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ws6OrePRzk&feature=player_embedded

[centreoflight]

D4zIQKAj7gM

This Lady has a great insight about what was going on Turkey and Iran with Operation Gladio.

[turiya]

Part 4 of the Sibel Edmonds / Corbett Report interview series:


"...the fourth part of our series on Gladio B, the NATO-directed effort to radicalize, enable and protect Islamic terrorists to further their own geopolitical ends. In this installment we discuss the drug traffickers who have been protected by the NATO Gladio network and the money launderers who help to "clean" the proceeds of this trafficking."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOCYMU3zYH0

turiya

[turiya]

Meet Adam Curtis, Establishment Contrarian

James Corbett of the Corbett Report discusses Adam Curtis, the maker of the OP BBC documentary video of this thread. And, the sophisticated level of propaganda used in the many documentaries that he has produced.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njJz6zrmy_s

Published on Feb 22, 2013
AUDIO MP3 AND SHOW NOTES: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=6939

The Power of Nightmares. The Century of the Self. Pandora's Box. All Watched Over By Machines of Loving Grace. If you're familiar with the alternative media, you've doubtless come across references to the documentary work of Adam Curtis. But besides the well-known examples of brilliance within Curtis' work is a deeply doctrinaire strain that seeks to normalize mainstream history and convince us that the driving ideologies of the political elite are exactly what they say they are. Join us today on The Corbett Report as we deconstruct Curtis' documentaries and look for the deeper meaning behind the globalist ideology.

turiya

[turiya]

Sibel Edmonds Explains Who's At The Top Of The Pyramid


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgo-E7KhVAc

Published on Mar 15, 2013

SHOW NOTES: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=7094

In this sixth part of the ongoing Sibel Edmonds Gladio B conversation, we ask the question: Who is at the top of the pyramid. We look beyond the usual suspects and follow the money back to the industries and lobbies whose existence depends on the perpetuation of boogeymen enemies.

turiya :cool: