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4th February 2013, 18:45
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_in_Creation
http://www.indigenouspeople.net/creatlingit.htm
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/settlement/kids/021013-2061.2-e.html
http://www.tahltan.org/creation-story/raven-creation-story
http://seattletimes.com/html/picturethis/2017734021_symphonyofcrows.html
http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/biology/jbasil/documents/CrowApeCognition.pdf
No one knows just how the story of Raven really begins, so each starts from the point where he does know it. Here it was always begun in this way. Raven was first called Kit-ka'ositiyi-qa-yit ("Son of Kit-ka'ositiyi-qa"). When his son was born, Kit-ka'ositiyi-qa tried to instruct him and train him in every way and, after he grew up, told him he would give him strength to make a world. After trying in all sorts of ways, Raven finally succeeded. Then there was no light in this world, but it was told him that far up the Nass was a large house in which some one kept light just for himself.
Raven and the Creation
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Raven-and-the-first-men.jpg/300px-Raven-and-the-first-men.jpg
Once upon a time, the earth was barren and void, without form. The Bible and many other books besides describe a time when the "spirit of God hovered over the face of the deep". Ranging from tales of Sky Woman, Raven; Odin and his Ravens; Noah and his raven too, there is always water, and always a flood, before there is life. And Raven is part of that life somehow.
Do you think perhaps there was a time in earth's history where ravens saw intelligent mammals wiped out by disaster, or maybe that they co-existed with now extinct lizards and dinosaurs? Who can know?
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSpg5CAJ3M6v0GfsTgk7NJfnqAAL2RvZ2uNWKKCvMZcAnPQEhK7Rw
Sky Woman falls through a hole in the sky in her tale. I don't remember all of it, but there was a holy tree and for some reason it gets uprooted. Sky woman falls asleep and then plunges through the hole toward the ocean below. She is caught by a giant turtle. Also there is a myth where Raven pulled man out of a clam shell. I think this means that people started eating the diet of fish and clams eaten by the birds and became more intelligent.
In the Odin mythos, Hugin and Munin are the spirit ravens who sit at his shoulders and communicate all the wisdom from the far ranges of the earth, and from the spirits of the dead. There is a flood mentioned in Nordic legends, where giants and humans fought against each other, and the giants perished in a sea of blood.
During the time of Noah, the only known survivors of the Mediterranean region (that I know of) were Noah and his immediate family. We know that there were other arks and ships, but Noah was pretty much the only game in his town by the end of it. He sent a raven out to scout the land, to see if the water had receded from the face of the earth.
http://www.tahltan.org/sites/tahltan.org/files/styles/full_content/public/Image/creation/Screen%20Shot%202012-07-19%20at%209.27.35%20AM.png
Now isn't that something, not one or two but three raven stories. Oh, I forgot the Bible said that birds and fish evolved at the same time (or were created, either way is fine).
Social Animals
I posit at this point that Corvids, or crows and ravens, as we call them, were the first extremely social intelligent bird species, followed very closely by aquatic mammals (dolphins and whales). They were capable of fishing and utilizing the dry land as well. They played with toys (anything in the environment), perhaps even used tools (stones), and had a social order. They might even have a language and the capacity to tell and remember stories. If only we could crack the code and know what the ravens know!
There was a video and article recently (well, maybe within the last 12 months) featured in the Seattle Times, showing a huge flock of crows flying near treetops by the water. They were very beautiful to watch, this strange species that is a paradox of algorithm and intelligence. The first minds.
A reader called in and told one of The Seattle Times photo editors about the incredible number of crows that were flying around Emerald Downs at dusk every night. I had just started working the night shift and when there weren't any basketball games to shoot, I thought I'd check it out. I wasn't expecting the sky to turn black with birds as the reader had predicted, but what I saw absolutely amazed me. About 30 minutes before dusk, a tiny group of birds flew in from the right, a larger group flew in from the left, and then more from the north and south. Up, down, sideways and back again. I watched but never saw any of them fly into each other -- and they flew fast. It was an incredible sight. I shot still photos the first night but went back a few more times to shoot video. Adam Sedgley, the Seattle Audubon Science Manager, confirmed that at they were indeed crows and agreed to narrate the video I shot. He said that when the birds got together at night, the skinny ones would check out the fatter ones and then follow them the next morning because they obviously knew the best eating spots. I don't know who called to let us know about the crows, but I will always be grateful for that call. Pure beauty in nature.
--Ellen Banner, Seattle Times photographer
I could be really off in my estimation, but for some reason, humans tend to agree that ravens were linked either to creation or to human survival. It could be that ancient humans migrated and followed the birds to places where food could be found. The birds might have shown them agriculture. Who can know? Not we!
Crows Play and Talk
I have seen crows playing with baby toys in my yard. They make sounds like chickens, bring their babies to eat here, and are very friendly. They even follow us from the roof to the power lines over our car when we leave, hoping for a snack. Although they are a hunted pest species in farmland areas, in the city they are a fairly welcome carrion cleaning garbage eating living trash can and a source of entertainment too.
Not sure what else to write at the moment, but I wanted to share this thought about the intelligence and social aptitude of these incredible birds, and the idea that perhaps ravens and crows and not humans should be credited with founding the first society, and perhaps even a civilization. Because within their ranks they are civil and communicative. Unlike other birds.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mavuytT9VU1rhqivso1_500.jpg
I hope that more people can start to value crows and ravens not as a source of food or target practice or anger on the farm, but because they are intelligent like we are.
http://www.indigenouspeople.net/creatlingit.htm
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/settlement/kids/021013-2061.2-e.html
http://www.tahltan.org/creation-story/raven-creation-story
http://seattletimes.com/html/picturethis/2017734021_symphonyofcrows.html
http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/biology/jbasil/documents/CrowApeCognition.pdf
No one knows just how the story of Raven really begins, so each starts from the point where he does know it. Here it was always begun in this way. Raven was first called Kit-ka'ositiyi-qa-yit ("Son of Kit-ka'ositiyi-qa"). When his son was born, Kit-ka'ositiyi-qa tried to instruct him and train him in every way and, after he grew up, told him he would give him strength to make a world. After trying in all sorts of ways, Raven finally succeeded. Then there was no light in this world, but it was told him that far up the Nass was a large house in which some one kept light just for himself.
Raven and the Creation
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Raven-and-the-first-men.jpg/300px-Raven-and-the-first-men.jpg
Once upon a time, the earth was barren and void, without form. The Bible and many other books besides describe a time when the "spirit of God hovered over the face of the deep". Ranging from tales of Sky Woman, Raven; Odin and his Ravens; Noah and his raven too, there is always water, and always a flood, before there is life. And Raven is part of that life somehow.
Do you think perhaps there was a time in earth's history where ravens saw intelligent mammals wiped out by disaster, or maybe that they co-existed with now extinct lizards and dinosaurs? Who can know?
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSpg5CAJ3M6v0GfsTgk7NJfnqAAL2RvZ2uNWKKCvMZcAnPQEhK7Rw
Sky Woman falls through a hole in the sky in her tale. I don't remember all of it, but there was a holy tree and for some reason it gets uprooted. Sky woman falls asleep and then plunges through the hole toward the ocean below. She is caught by a giant turtle. Also there is a myth where Raven pulled man out of a clam shell. I think this means that people started eating the diet of fish and clams eaten by the birds and became more intelligent.
In the Odin mythos, Hugin and Munin are the spirit ravens who sit at his shoulders and communicate all the wisdom from the far ranges of the earth, and from the spirits of the dead. There is a flood mentioned in Nordic legends, where giants and humans fought against each other, and the giants perished in a sea of blood.
During the time of Noah, the only known survivors of the Mediterranean region (that I know of) were Noah and his immediate family. We know that there were other arks and ships, but Noah was pretty much the only game in his town by the end of it. He sent a raven out to scout the land, to see if the water had receded from the face of the earth.
http://www.tahltan.org/sites/tahltan.org/files/styles/full_content/public/Image/creation/Screen%20Shot%202012-07-19%20at%209.27.35%20AM.png
Now isn't that something, not one or two but three raven stories. Oh, I forgot the Bible said that birds and fish evolved at the same time (or were created, either way is fine).
Social Animals
I posit at this point that Corvids, or crows and ravens, as we call them, were the first extremely social intelligent bird species, followed very closely by aquatic mammals (dolphins and whales). They were capable of fishing and utilizing the dry land as well. They played with toys (anything in the environment), perhaps even used tools (stones), and had a social order. They might even have a language and the capacity to tell and remember stories. If only we could crack the code and know what the ravens know!
There was a video and article recently (well, maybe within the last 12 months) featured in the Seattle Times, showing a huge flock of crows flying near treetops by the water. They were very beautiful to watch, this strange species that is a paradox of algorithm and intelligence. The first minds.
A reader called in and told one of The Seattle Times photo editors about the incredible number of crows that were flying around Emerald Downs at dusk every night. I had just started working the night shift and when there weren't any basketball games to shoot, I thought I'd check it out. I wasn't expecting the sky to turn black with birds as the reader had predicted, but what I saw absolutely amazed me. About 30 minutes before dusk, a tiny group of birds flew in from the right, a larger group flew in from the left, and then more from the north and south. Up, down, sideways and back again. I watched but never saw any of them fly into each other -- and they flew fast. It was an incredible sight. I shot still photos the first night but went back a few more times to shoot video. Adam Sedgley, the Seattle Audubon Science Manager, confirmed that at they were indeed crows and agreed to narrate the video I shot. He said that when the birds got together at night, the skinny ones would check out the fatter ones and then follow them the next morning because they obviously knew the best eating spots. I don't know who called to let us know about the crows, but I will always be grateful for that call. Pure beauty in nature.
--Ellen Banner, Seattle Times photographer
I could be really off in my estimation, but for some reason, humans tend to agree that ravens were linked either to creation or to human survival. It could be that ancient humans migrated and followed the birds to places where food could be found. The birds might have shown them agriculture. Who can know? Not we!
Crows Play and Talk
I have seen crows playing with baby toys in my yard. They make sounds like chickens, bring their babies to eat here, and are very friendly. They even follow us from the roof to the power lines over our car when we leave, hoping for a snack. Although they are a hunted pest species in farmland areas, in the city they are a fairly welcome carrion cleaning garbage eating living trash can and a source of entertainment too.
Not sure what else to write at the moment, but I wanted to share this thought about the intelligence and social aptitude of these incredible birds, and the idea that perhaps ravens and crows and not humans should be credited with founding the first society, and perhaps even a civilization. Because within their ranks they are civil and communicative. Unlike other birds.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mavuytT9VU1rhqivso1_500.jpg
I hope that more people can start to value crows and ravens not as a source of food or target practice or anger on the farm, but because they are intelligent like we are.