View Full Version : A Better Mouse Trap... REALLY!
Arrowwind
9th February 2013, 19:58
With efforts to store provisions comes the need to control vermin. I just found this and it looks like a winner. I've spent too much money on traps that dont work or soon break and need constant resetting.
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By David Galloway
Build a Self-Resetting Mouse Trap
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17n427di49ayujpg/medium.jpgWe've covered many (http://lifehacker.com/5451065/make-a-diy-no+kill-mousetrap-with-a-toilet-paper-roll) mouse traps (http://lifehacker.com/5811880/make-a-no+kill-mousetrap-with-a-jar-and-a-nickel) over the years, but they all need to be reset once you've caught a mouse. This means if you have lots of furry intruders you'll need to have several traps or just build this version using a 5-gallon bucket, an aluminum beverage can, a small piece of wood, and a wooden dowel.
Bucket repurpose weblog 5-Gallon Ideas offers this design for a self-resetting mouse trap that can be either lethal or no-kill: Drill holes on opposite sides of the bucket and in the two flat sides of the can. Insert the dowel through the bucket and can holes. Bait the trap by adding peanut butter to the beverage can and add a ramp for the mice to climb to the edge of the bucket.
If you want to kill the mice add a few inches of water at the bottom. If you don't add the water the live mice won't be able to climb out and you can relocate
Bo Atkinson
9th February 2013, 21:21
Actually it was found in rough and ready lofts and warehouses, that plain water achieves the same end. But it has to be in a food scented area and also an area without water immediately available to a mouse. The mouse drowns. Pails with water attract them for a drink. Nothing besides the pail and the water is needed, very simple. They will apparently take a dive and then cannot get out. Eventually they tire and drown.
Mulder
10th February 2013, 03:42
Please tell me what entices the mice to jump on top the can & then lose balance and fall? What's the liquid down the bottom in the bucket - It looks like it smells.
delfine
10th February 2013, 05:40
Subbing..........................
Arrowwind
10th February 2013, 07:50
Please tell me what entices the mice to jump on top the can & then lose balance and fall? What's the liquid down the bottom in the bucket - It looks like it smells.
You smear the soda can with peanut butter, by far the best mouse luer there is.
Hermite
10th February 2013, 11:14
From experience I can tell you a couple of things. A mouse can swim/tread water for a long time. Relocating only works if you take them in a vehicle to many miles away. If you just toss them out, even half a mile away, they'll be back. The best mouse trap has pointy ears and whiskers. Or better yet, keep ALL your food stored in tins and glass. That has worked for me for years.
Arrowwind
10th February 2013, 18:34
From experience I can tell you a couple of things. A mouse can swim/tread water for a long time. Relocating only works if you take them in a vehicle to many miles away. If you just toss them out, even half a mile away, they'll be back. The best mouse trap has pointy ears and whiskers. Or better yet, keep ALL your food stored in tins and glass. That has worked for me for years.
I dont allow my cats into my food storage area which is actually secure from mice anyway. They are good at catching mice when they feel like it and only when they feel like it and many people cant have cats for a number of reasons. I was wondering by the water in this bucket in the photo was green. Did they put something in there to speed their demise, like antifreeze? don't know.
Bill Ryan
10th February 2013, 18:48
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In Scotland, I lived for several years in a cottage near a farm in the middle of nowhere. I had a bank of six humane mousetraps, and each morning I'd find I'd caught six very beautiful, fat little mice. I'd carefully take them down the little lane, across the bridge, and release them in the hay barn several hundred yards away. I swear they were all back in the house before I was.
:)
thunder24
10th February 2013, 19:00
don't let the vegans see this thread......... quick duck...its a flying cucumber........ just breath more air....lol
ok,,, anybody got usefulness for meeces? or are they as useful as the perfect gnat?
Arrowwind
10th February 2013, 19:08
You could catch them like this without the water at the bottom then feed them to the lazy cats. It would help supplement their diet when cat food is no longer available, if we get to that god forsaken day... or maybe even your own diet.
thunder24
10th February 2013, 19:11
You could catch them like this without the water at the bottom then feed them to the lazy cats. It would help supplement their diet when cat food is no longer available, if we get to that god forsaken day... or maybe even your own diet.
this is true... put them on the spit... many have before...
im an idealist learning to not b... i think many times we get stuck in a mind frame or vortex of thought by pure dynamic... and need to b drug out of it....just an opinion...
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EYES WIDE OPEN
10th February 2013, 21:02
Poor mice. What cruel & inhuman way to kill them. Drowning. Disgusting IMO.
For those that would rather not kill, try this:
Electromagnetic Rat/Mouse/Rodent Repeller - works a treat!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=ultrasonic+mouse+repeller&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=9030120545&hvpos=1t2&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2911131911914314935&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&ref=pd_sl_4s7bgwm6pr_e
My sister lives in the Croatian countryside and had a mouse problem but like myself, will have a really bad day even accidentally squashing a snail let a lone purposefully killing a mouse.
This device not only does not kill them, it prevents them even coming into the house.
Much better for human and mouse alike. :)
Limor Wolf
11th February 2013, 06:40
When I did my military service, I served in the desert where there were scorpions, snakes and mice. For a year and a half there were no problems, but after that my commanders decided to bring glue traps which imprison the mouse and when it tried to release itself, it's leg is being amputated and he dies in agony. Every night I went and picked up the traps and threw them in the trash, a mouse or two were caught and that was horrific to see. I was considered a good soldier (geek : ) and was about to become a supervisor but was ready to risk it and refused to leave the traps in their place. Threats of being sentenced and a demotion did not help, finally I won and the traps were removed.
I am a vegan seeing this thread. What does it mean? It means discussing a very understood pest problem with many understood repercussion on a thread in Avalon. Avalon is known to host people that have more compassion than the average man, are able to think outside the box to try and find solutions that are not harmful and seek understanding on how to respect nature and coexist with it for the betterment of this world. I find it saddening to see that those attributes are absent when discussing mouse traps.
HaveBlue
11th February 2013, 09:30
Excellent post Bill, Short,sharp and thought provoking. Literary skills I am yet to master.
You were the PTB, provided social welfare for these creatures, but knew they carry disease and did'nt want to live 'that' close. If left to their own devices they would eat you! Nibble at your ears while you sleep, chew your wiring,set fire to your home and burn you out.
Maybe not with intent but that is irrelevent. Translate that to how many human mice have bred up on welfare, know nothing and do nothing.
You must stand in line behind them when you want to use the services that your tax dollars paid for, and if you're lucky you may be seen.
These are the problems the PTB face. Alot of us here at Avalon are aware of this and are making our own arrangements.
The 'civilized' world is run like a farm. Any farmer has a budget for pest destruction.
Whether I or we agree with it is besides the point. We have seen the docos of jews being loaded onto trains in WW2 and have choices to make while there is time.
A longer view is surely the more considered one.
You could welcome them, they breed up to plague proportions, they eat everything in sight, until the only thing left to eat is each other.
You would ultimately be responsible for 'letting' it happen.
The wonders of nature!:nod:
(I have a mouse problem here and a good cat, I don't poison them, or trap them. I give them a fair chance and even root for the mouse or rat when I see them escape after a mauling sometimes right in front of me. But I am realistic about the whole situation. If it does get out of hand I would 'have to do what a mans gotta do')
markpierre
11th February 2013, 10:20
God, it comes right back again and again to that 'life' is death after death after death.
You guys should either stop coming back to this planet, or change your minds about death.
Cool mouse trap idea. This place is crawling with mice. I catch em and take them to the neighbors and they don't come back.
EYES WIDE OPEN
11th February 2013, 12:44
My point is you don't have to kill them as my previous post points out. There are other ways to get rid of them that work that are non lethal. Knowing that, there really is no excuse for killing out furry friends.
thunder24
11th February 2013, 18:20
My point is you don't have to kill them as my previous post points out. There are other ways to get rid of them that work that are non lethal. Knowing that, there really is no excuse for killing out furry friends.
do u kill bugs when u breath?
blufire
11th February 2013, 18:37
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In Scotland, I lived for several years in a cottage near a farm in the middle of nowhere. I had a bank of six humane mousetraps, and each morning I'd find I'd caught six very beautiful, fat little mice. I'd carefully take them down the little lane, across the bridge, and release them in the hay barn several hundred yards away. I swear they were all back in the house before I was.
:)
Hey Bill, I laughed so hard when I read this, because I had the same thing with opossums.
Opossums were getting in my hen house and eating the eggs, grain and my chickens so I started trapping them in live traps and I took them 5 miles away to a lake and released them. I had three traps and made trip after trip to the lake with fat happy possums. I could have sworn they were coming right back to the farm so I started spray painting their tails with hot pink paint. 43 possums later and none with hot pink tails I was opossum free.
PS To stay mouse free in the house I have 3 very capable cats and a 6 foot black snake that lives in my basement named Miss Suzy.
EYES WIDE OPEN
11th February 2013, 19:21
My point is you don't have to kill them as my previous post points out. There are other ways to get rid of them that work that are non lethal. Knowing that, there really is no excuse for killing out furry friends.
do u kill bugs when u breath?
I have no idea what this even means.
thunder24
11th February 2013, 19:51
really? seems like a straight forward question to me.......
EYES WIDE OPEN
12th February 2013, 10:55
I realise its a question but don't really see your point or its relevance. Can you explain?
thunder24
13th February 2013, 18:42
well if we care so much about rodents, why do we not care about eh spiders and gnats and other bugs that go in our lungs when we breath.. do they survive in the mucus of ur lungs?
why do they not get a voice from avalonians?
Limor Wolf
14th February 2013, 07:33
well if we care so much about rodents, why do we not care about eh spiders and gnats and other bugs that go in our lungs when we breath.. do they survive in the mucus of ur lungs?
why do they not get a voice from avalonians?
Hi Thunder24, Please don't get this the wrong way, I know you are higly inteligent, but your equalization here doesn't seem to be an inteligent one. nobody wants to self sacrifice themselvs, but simply do what is in our power to do in order to eliminate suffering in the world as much as we can and still stay alive (and well : ), we can't help ourself but breath, but there are things that we CAN do and still continue to live happily and with consideration for other forms of lives. There is a big big difference between those two. with best wishings, Limor.
thunder24
15th February 2013, 00:01
an intelligent person would of let this go, instead of trying to prove we kill bugs when we breath.. but thanku...lol
well if we care so much about rodents, why do we not care about eh spiders and gnats and other bugs that go in our lungs when we breath.. do they survive in the mucus of ur lungs?
why do they not get a voice from avalonians?
Hi Thunder24, Please don't get this the wrong way, I know you are higly inteligent, but your equalization here doesn't seem to be an inteligent one. nobody wants to self sacrifice themselvs, but simply do what is in our power to do in order to eliminate suffering in the world as much as we can and still stay alive (and well : ), we can't help ourself but breath, but there are things that we CAN do and still continue to live happily and with consideration for other forms of lives. There is a big big difference between those two. with best wishings, Limor.
Tesla_WTC_Solution
15th February 2013, 19:35
HOW did I miss this thread?
Is Arrowwind still with us?? :(
Octavusprime
31st May 2013, 19:33
I for one do not like killing any living creature. Necessity for survival can out weigh the want to preserve nature. I disagree with the drowning method completely but the basic design sounds solid.
Unfortunately mice and rats harbor terrible diseases and can completely obliterate your food stockpiles. Control is necessary before the nuisance becomes a full fledged epidemic.
Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome
Hemorrhagic Fever with Renal Syndrome
Lassa Fever
Leptospirosis
Lymphocytic Chorio-meningitis (LCM)
Omsk Hemorrhagic Fever
Plague
Rat-Bite Fever
Salmonellosis
South American Arenaviruses
Tularemia
I recently had a rat infestation in my house. They nested behind my fridge. I have 3 cats but a large rat can hold it's own. Only the male cat is killer to be honest. I didn't know there was an issue until the overwhelming smell of urine in my kitchen arrived. They got in through the cat door.
I tried humane traps but that didn't work. Basically the old fashion snap traps were the only thing that worked.
Again I don't like to kill unless I'm using the animal for food but when it comes down to the safety of me and my family. Sacrifices must be made.
I for one do not like killing any living creature. Necessity for survival can out weigh the want to preserve nature. I disagree with the drowning method completely but the basic design sounds solid.
Unfortunately mice and rats harbor terrible diseases and can completely obliterate your food stockpiles. Control is necessary before the nuisance becomes a full fledged epidemic.
Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome
Hemorrhagic Fever with Renal Syndrome
Lassa Fever
Leptospirosis
Lymphocytic Chorio-meningitis (LCM)
Omsk Hemorrhagic Fever
Plague
Rat-Bite Fever
Salmonellosis
South American Arenaviruses
Tularemia
I recently had a rat infestation in my house. They nested behind my fridge. I have 3 cats but a large rat can hold it's own. Only the male cat is killer to be honest. I didn't know there was an issue until the overwhelming smell of urine in my kitchen arrived. They got in through the cat door.
I tried humane traps but that didn't work. Basically the old fashion snap traps were the only thing that worked.
Again I don't like to kill unless I'm using the animal for food but when it comes down to the safety of me and my family. Sacrifices must be made.
I think this is the way we ( the majority) are viewed by them (the minority). Prince Phillip would concur....
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