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Ernie Nemeth
13th February 2013, 04:50
I’ve noticed of late that people seem not to know how to respond to the increasingly pertinent threads that they are being presented with. As the dots get connected, as some have called it, the underlying agenda of the controllers is being illuminated to the point of near irrefutability. The responses seems to range from something close to terror to disgust and from disbelief expressed as apathy to outright anger verging on rage. Although all these reactions are understandable, none are helpful, neither to the individual or the group in general. This is because these emotions are all divisive.

I’d like to suggest a proper expression for this feeling that until now has not been given a name: righteous indignation.

First, let’s see what the dictionary defines these words as:

Righteous: acting in accord with divine or moral law; free from guilt or sin; a moral right arising from an outraged sense of justice
Indignation: anger aroused by something unjust, unworthy or mean deriving from a sense of indignity...an act that offends against a person’s dignity or self-respect; insult; humiliating treatment; lack or loss of dignity or honor;

Putting the two together we get something like:
A moral right arising from an outraged sense of justice due to a humiliating offense against a person’s dignity, self-respect or honor.

There is great power in righteous indignation. I’m sure all of us have called upon it at some point in our lives. It is that point we reach in a situation where we feel a line has been crossed by another that we may or may not have known we’d even drawn for ourselves beyond which we drop all pretence and, as sovereign individuals, we feel compelled to take action. Unfortunately, this action (notice it is not a reaction) has been, for the most part, programmed out of our normal everyday set of responses. It has become almost taboo in our modern civilization.

I’ll offer this abridged version of an example from my own life. I wronged somebody and I knew it. He responded inappropriately and punched me in the jaw. I told him that I agreed I had that coming and turned to leave. Unsatisfied, I guess, he swung at me again. I caught his fist and told him he only gets one free one. He did not like that and tried to throw another punch. I grabbed him by the throat, picked him off the ground and tossed him onto the hood of his car, pinning him there with one arm. This person was twice my size, by the way. I looked him in the eye and said simply, “Leave now while you still can.” He left without another word. I’ll never forget his look of complete surprise and perhaps a bit of fear as well. My friends later asked me why I did not hit him back. I responded, “Because he was right.” Maybe this is a poor example, but it does illustrate the power of righteous indignation. I’m sure there are much better examples out there. First he was right, then I was right - is how I see it. The violence part of this example is always inappropriate, however.

I’ve searched the threads for any mention of righteous indignation and only came up with two, both in my own posts. I list them here:



1) Ah, righteous indignation. So refreshing. It is vital to our future to revive this attitude. It is imperative to know you are right to be indignant in the face of ignorance. Not because of a superior, or elitist, or special interest (besides truth and justice) position of indignation. The ignorant and the informed are equal, one simply does not know it. Indignity has many faces, and not all are righteous. But righteous indignation is another matter. It cannot be refuted; it is always justified, by definition. When one is righteously indignant the truth is automatically, literally, at one’s side. In such a state one had better be integrated and centered, focused and aware, because the ego loves the special attention and will derail the righteous part real quick otherwise.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-here-and-now...what-s-happening&p=400670&highlight=righteous+indignation#post400670


2) To be apathetic requires a certain consistent attitude. All slights to the person are abrogated and suppressed, buried under the general blanket of hopelessness and senselessness that numbs the natural response of righteous indignation. To be disrespected is to be a victim of one’s own inaction. Indignity is an offense to the self. You are right to take offense to indignity. You are right to take the offensive in the face of indignity in any form. You are acting naturally when you feel righteous indignation. Yet, somehow we have been convinced that righteous indignation is merely the wailing of the weak to the fact of reality’s harshness. We are embarrassed and scared to stand up for ourselves and others. We have learned to blend in with the herd in silent apathy…

To stand up for ourselves is to be sovereign beings, united by a common bond of love, light and sensible responsibility.

We are the solution, but we are the problem as well.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-wade-frazier-a-healed-planet&p=280571&highlight=righteous+indignation#post280571


Does any of this make sense? I wonder if this helps at all for anyone. We select lesser modes of behavior and response because we think that is the civilized thing to do - and perhaps that is true but that does not make it right. Then we wonder why we feel angry, enraged, sad, mad, depressed, scared, etc.

Maybe we should revive the feeling of righteous indignation as the appropriate response in certain situations so that these lesser feelings do not come back to bite us in the butt.

Any comments?

markpierre
13th February 2013, 08:55
I LOVE righteous indignation. It's my specialty. Righteous anger is kind of cool too. There's a lot of freedom in that.

Just have to be sure that you're right.

Ernie Nemeth
13th February 2013, 16:29
Thanks Markpierre.

Yes, it is important to be right to summon the power of Righteous Indignation. In fact, if you are not right then you are not righteously indignant to start with.
Nothing can stop a person in this state of mind because those in that state are protected. Maybe that is why some of the most staunch whistleblowers survive repeated attempts on their lives. A person who is righteously indignant is not in a state of fear but in an advanced state of love - not the "mushy, fuzzy, feel good" childish love. And that sort of love is irresistible to higher beings of Light. It is like wearing armor. Unfortunately, for us mere humans that state is almost impossible to maintain for any length of time. It must be called upon in the moment and utilized sparingly for the highest good.

Freed Fox
13th February 2013, 16:44
Well, I say if you see the need to respond somewhere in such a fashion, do so. Shouldn't be any harm in it, so long as you stay mindful (and, like you mentioned, make sure it really is righteous indignation and not 'wrongful indignation')...

markpierre
13th February 2013, 20:08
Well, I say if you see the need to respond somewhere in such a fashion, do so. Shouldn't be any harm in it, so long as you stay mindful (and, like you mentioned, make sure it really is righteous indignation and not 'wrongful indignation')...

It's more like 'wrongful imagination'. Which could also be perceived by you as righteous imagination. That's okay. Probably wrong no matter what you do.

As long as you experience it fully, and don't judge yourself for it. And don't hurt anybody. No illegal blows to the groin.

Righteous embarrassment isn't so bad either.

What's right or not tends to sort it's self out.

sygh
13th February 2013, 20:54
There is nothing wrong with recognizing mal intent for what it is: a dispicable act brought down to bare hurt upon another with purposeful intent... for which we are supposed to be able to find forgiveness in our hearts (our spirit) as the reciever of such an act, or, bare the sin ourselves (if you will, or if you've been brought up that way). But when we talk about "those" who are "in charge", rightous indignation makes me think of just one act (even though that's not altogether the way it is) and the subject matter we speak of is so large and convoluted, I just don't know if the term fits all sizes. And then, of course, I always have to look at myself and my own deeds.

Look how many people are involved, and don't even know it. Look at how many people get used like pawns on a board. But I sure do appreciate your forum; it seems like a great start to understanding our feelings and thoughts about the fact that NO, we aren't crazy, right? This is really happening and guess what, no matter where ya stand, we all shoulder-deep in the hoop-la.

When I think about the few men and women that hold the reins of power and strive to shape the world in their own image (many for their own purpose), I can't help but see many actually believe they are doing the right thing, and for some, maybe they are but everything is so jarbled we'd never know it, hense, the cluster. Others seem to share the same malady of success which can be referred to as the "know it all syndrome" or, and of course, his cousin by petre dish the "greater than you cancer." Others are just so far removed from the soil so-to-speak, they may think they live in a completely different world, while others may believe themselves to be super heros.

When people "create" man-made wonders, there rings a deep and resonating bell within all of us, I think, which may very well come from our individual drive to be divine. Geeze, I wanted to finish this thought but I have to run, I forgot a meeting. Augh!!!! I've said enough anyway, probably too much.

Fred Steeves
13th February 2013, 22:02
Thanks Markpierre.

Yes, it is important to be right to summon the power of Righteous Indignation. In fact, if you are not right then you are not righteously indignant to start with.
Nothing can stop a person in this state of mind because those in that state are protected.

Hi Ernie, good thread. I've thought about what you said above quite a lot over the last few years, and I think there is definately something to it. What it is I still don't really know, but the best I can think of it so far is accessing another level of our being. A couple of characteristics I've noted about it: 1) There is little to no conscious thought involved, it's pure action. 2) When it's happening, both you, and the other/s involved can "feel" it, and they generally want no part of it.

It's happened with me a few times over the years, and not once has anyone gotten hurt. The "presence" seems to be very much in control of the situation, and that is generally all that is needed. One personal example was a couple of years ago. The next door neighbor kid was celebrating his 15th birthday (we had known him since he was 9), and we were invited. A core group(maybe 10 or so) of the guys there were his jiu jitsu buddies, and it was easy to tell the skill was making them cocky.

A couple hours in I began to notice something that stunned me. One of the guy's mom was there, and to "show off" to his buds he started strutting up to where she was seated, and play slapping her on the face. Then he would taunt her to do something about it, walk away laughing and high fiving, then strut on up and do it again. Now I'm no tough guy by any means, but upon about the 4th or 5th time something just snapped inside me, and before I even knew what I was doing I was right up behind him, and saying very forcefully: "STOP IT...NOW!!!"

The look on the kid's face was priceless when he spun around, sizing me up, and I could also feel his buds waiting for their cue. There was an intense stare down for about 5 seconds, and then he walked off like he was a little boy again. Of course that many 15 year olds, especially knowing how to fight, could have beaten me to a pulp, but it wasn't to be because of that "presence". The outcome had already been decided, in more ways than one.

ulli
13th February 2013, 22:24
I spend most of my social time in that state, to the point of appearing undignified and even embarrassing my husband.
Had to promise him today before we went to this luncheon we were invited to not to bring up the pope's resignation.

My question is this: how could such an enormous institution ignore until now the righteous indignation some of their higher-up members must surely have felt in light of the pedophilia scandal? That there was never enough of it inside their own ranks to police those perpetrators.
Righteous indignation seems to work only when it happens between two or maximum three, in a limited setting.
But once the group is larger the voice of one gets lost unless other bystanders had time to build up their own anger and join in. These are the dynamics that I find worthy of exploration.

Anchor
13th February 2013, 22:42
In moments of "righteous indignation" it is not like you (the lower mind) has time to make a reasoned choice about how best to act[1]. You are either going with the flow or you are not (and deciding).

If you are a highly tuned person, with habitual righteousness, I think all manner of powers will be at your disposal to help you with your drama, and those same powers will also help you from having tragic accidents - like hurting someone badly in a physical confrontation (example in the OP).

Anchor..


[1] The image came to mind of an old cartoon I used to like when I was a kid - Hong Kong Phooey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Phooey). This little dog was a super-hero with kung fu skills. Sometimes he had to stop the fight so he could look up the next move in his little book of kung fu! Not really going with the flow - LOL

Fred Steeves
13th February 2013, 22:44
This is my old tried and true example of righteous indignation. Sometimes the tanks just roll right over the person without a care in the world, but sometimes not...

I'm willing to bet he didn't have one conscious thought doing that, as we usually think of it anyway. Pure action. Pure selflessness. Pure righteous indignation. A force to be reckoned with.

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greybeard
13th February 2013, 22:59
Ok for some--smiling.

A true story.
At an AA meeting a man said "Is it ok for us to have righteous indignation after all Jesus had when he overturned the tables?"
The answer that came from the longest sober person there. "Jesus was not an alcoholic."

Unfortunately AA members have been know to start drinking again through frustration, anger, inability to accept what is.
When your life depends on it, things take on a different perspective.

One expression is "Getting angry with people is like drinking poison and expecting the other to die"
Just a question of priorities.

Chris

Ernie Nemeth
14th February 2013, 03:01
Well, what a delightful surprise!

When I posted this thread I thought it might be misunderstood as some militant message to violence, or a call to arms. That was not my intent at all.

I just wanted to uncover and dust off an old idea with a very useful message. It is a tool that can be used by any in times of greatest need. It can be used in the physical and the spiritual arenas equally. Next time you need protection, or feel threatened, righteous indignation can come to your aid or even rescue you from some terrible situation. Now that we have brought it out in the open it will be there when next you need it. Love isn't always about flowers and sunshine and turning the other cheek. Sometimes the greatest love is drawing a line in the sand and saying, "This far, and no further!".

Thanks so much for dropping by everybody...
All my love,
Ernie