Giant Spaceships Heading Towards Earth ?

[Eric J (Viking)]

Giant Spaceships Heading Towards Earth ?

Recent light has been shed on the reason that the SETI (Search For Extraterrestrial Intelligence) project has been cancelled by the government. It seems that something was starting to happen. According to my sources the government black project boys have taken over some of the antennas and are now processing signals for the exclusive use of the United States Navy. The government seems to be highly upset that more than one very large object is fast approaching Earth.

Speculation about just what these objects may be, range from Ark ships that are coming to take away some people just before a cataclysmic event strikes earth. Another speculation suggest that we are about to be invaded and the peoples of Earth forced into slave labor to mine certain rare elements. We may be plundered or saved. Either way the near future is yet to unfold.

At the present time the object(s) are beyond the orbit of Pluto. It is estimated that the objects are in the neighborhood of 150 miles across by 30 to 50 miles wide. Not long ago a Russian Mars probe photographed an object fitting this description just before it was destroyed for unknown reasons. Later, an American Mars probe was destroyed just before it reached that planet.

The people that were associated with SETI are in a unanimous opinion that, yes, we are not alone in the universe. A few of those people are now continuing SETI with private funding. However, reports indicate that some antenna sites have been taken over by government and those antennas in particular are heavily guarded.

It is reported that the US Navy in conjunction with the NSA are attempting to keep the public unaware of what is going on. A few people who are in the know are concerned that the Navy, as a first line of defense may be attempting to convert the antennas for military purposes. It is a fact that some frequencies in the microwave band have been known to affect UFO's and destabilize their propulsion systems. It stands to reason that such measures may be true in light of Ronald Reagan's statements about the need for the star wars program and his inference that we may soon have to face something from "out there!"

To be sure, if you think about it, the greater part of the American public are quite content to hide from reality in the sitcom & shoot um up fare offered on nightly TV and take the UFO phenomena as a joke. It is no joke. Too many credible people have revealed to the world that it is not a joke. Some of these people include; Barry Goldwater, Astronaut Gordon Cooper, President Jimmy Carter, FBI Chief Herbert Hoover, General McArthur, Ronald Reagan and many, many more.

As for myself, I know what I know and of one thing I am certain; The future is yet to be. What people do to effect that future is in their hands alone. And alone they will remain because no government, save that of Belgium, is willing to admit to it's people and the world that UFO's indeed do exist and are a part of reality that people are just going to have to deal with. Believe it or not! Like it or not!
Continue www.bombshock.com/aliens-and-ufos/giant-spaceships-heading-towards-earth.html

Go here www.sky-map.org/ and check out this picture of a Spaceship/craft approx 15miles long, go to the site listed , then type the co-ordinates 19 25 12, -89 46 03 and zoom in on the blue object with the +/- on the left...

http://i54.tinypic.com/8yvm10.jpg

Full story here
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/175/068/Giant_Spaceships_Heading_Towards_Earth.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcuhheeRf9A&feature=sub

viking

[rhythm]

Ah ! not my jumpin upn down then...:ohwell:
tin hats on Vikin.....
wow... realy Ou er misis :hippie:
no realy thats interestin ...;)
http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/66500/Tin-Foil-Hat--66733.jpg

[ascendingstarseed]

Great find Viking! It's probably nothing for us to be alarmed about, according to the Allies of Humanity briefings its no secret that there are numerous ET races gathering in our solar system at this time, it could be just another round of arrivals as we get closer to 2012 and the predicted Earth changes that may require mass evacuations of humans from the planet. The PTB certainly won't like the arrival of more ships since it threatens their stranglehold on humanity, hastening the inevitability of disclosure when humanity learns the truth about our history and the many other lies that'll be exposed.

[Kulapops]

It's probably this....

Two species which existed in the distant past, a very great distance from the Milky Way galaxy. The G'Gugvuntt were enemies of the Vl'hurgs, and these strange and warlike beings are on the brink of an interstellar war, because of an insult uttered by the G'Gugvuntt leader to the mother of the Vl'hurg leader. They were meeting for the last time, and a dreadful silence filled the air as the Vl'hurg leader was challenging the G'Gugvuntt leader to retract the insult. At the precise moment, the phrase "I seem to be having tremendous difficulty with my lifestyle" (muttered by Arthur Dent to himself, which for some strange reason was carried by a freak wormhole in space back in time to the farthest regions of the universe where the G'Gugvuntts and the Vl'hurgs lived) filled the air, which in the Vl'hurg tongue was the most dreadful insult imaginable. It left them no choice but to declare war on the G'Gugvuntts, which went on for a few thousand years and decimated their entire galaxy.

After millennia of battle the surviving G'Gugvuntt and Vl'hurg realised what had actually happened, and joined forces to attack the Milky Way in retaliation. They crossed vast reaches of space in a journey lasting thousands of years before reaching their target where they attacked the first planet they encountered, Earth. Due to a terrible miscalculation of scale the entire battle fleet was swallowed by a small dog. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy states that this sort of thing happens all the time.

[Swanny]

Viking that's the GFL coming to pick you up :)

[Kulapops]

150 miles long ? Is that diesel or unleaded do you reckon ?

:)

[morguana]

i think its the borg.......warping space time to stop first contact ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZEJ4OJTgg8

[rhythm]

vikin rise above it mate :pout:
http://bookmakersltd.com/images/large/Lindberg_SpaceShip2.jpg

[dreamchaser]

I looked, and all I could see there was a blue nebula shape. I couldnt SEE anything artifical in the shape of it. Perhaps someone else could describe what THAY see in the shape of the object?....

[Kulapops]

I have a feeling they might be 151 miles long... because nobody builds 150 mile long spaceships these days, it's so last year...

[bashi]

"Not long ago a Russian Mars probe photographed an object fitting this description just before it was destroyed for unknown reasons..."

It looks as if Phobos 2 was taken out, but that was 1989,
which is 21 years ago (or 31?:p).
So far for "not long ago"...

[Eric J (Viking)]

Ha Ha ... funny guys!! LOL

Because of that...none of you are getting aboard my ship....you can all walk home!!! ;-)

On a serious note...I wonder what they are?

viking

[wynderer]

i'm always wondering why the DUMBS are being built -- & as i'll be off the net & forum very soon, i'll risk alienating even more folks here by this, that i've noticed on other threads that the more serious & real a topic is, the more jokes [some funny, some not] sprout up -- always trying to understand the human psyche -- is the joking some form of defense mechanism?

[Kulapops]

No wynderer... and at the risk of alienating myself further, I'll say the jokes are just because :

I just don't buy it.

How does a spaceship get to be 150 miles long? Why 150 miles? Yes my comments can be assinine, but the clue is in the question. As soon as you start putting facts to a story, the less beleivable it is. This is why Obama gets in to office.. the story was only Hope and Change.. and Belief. This is easy to believe in. Start putting any more meat on the bones and you can be challenged.

So how do we know they are 150 miles long? Has someoneone done some sort of pythagorean calculation of subtended angle with estimated distance... and if so.. what sort of tiny angle and huge distance gives the answer 150 miles ? And .. at these distances, and possible error of measuerment...these ships might be anything from 50 to 500 miles long...

Now if a story had some kind of science to it... suggesting very large ships of the order of... well, it might pique my interest. But funnily enough, these kind of stories are usually very exacting in their language, with NO room for debate or discussion. So it's 150 miles... not 151.. or 148... or even 1500 miles long (why not ?)

through reading avalon for at least two years... these stories.. and that's what they are always, have a sensational element to them. In this case it's the size of the ship - 150 miles... (so we're supposed to go 'Ooooooh! 150 miles ??? corrr !!!') and the fact that THEY ARE APPROACHING... which gives a little element of excitement to the whole thing.. so there's probably a time-frame of their arrival included too. Why not have a nice story about 150 mile ships moving AWAY from the earth ?? I mean.. these ships can travel in all directions, surely ? So if a group are coming towards the earth at any one time, surely others are leaving ? (to nip back home, stock up on pretzels and gargleblasters and that kind of thing...)

The jokes are not a defence mechanism, merely a way to lighten the endless tirade of things about to happens to us.

Well, I believed in UFOs when I was 15 , and I still do.. and the day I see one on my lawn...or even on the Presidents lawn, will be a cool day indeed. but any one who has advanced knowledge of this day is just selling you snake oil....

(like we told Hitler when the Normandy landings were going to be ???)

P.S. Somewhere in the logic of these stories is also an element that we can somehow outwit or outsmart a race of beings far superior in travel technology to our own... like we would know they were coming.. we can spot them..and pe prepared. Like ants are fully aware of having a kettle of boiling hot water poured all over them...? I believe, if a race out there is dastardly, then there ain't going to be any warning, or protection. If they are benign and they haven't contacted us yet, then it's for a reason... and I don't see anything changing to change that reason just yet.. so anything else is just wishful thinking... Ok.. if you've been party to an abduction or sighting, then that's great... so write about it here and we can all get educated...

[wynderer]

No wynderer... and at the risk of alienating myself further, I'll say the jokes are just because :

I just don't buy it.

How does a spaceship get to be 150 miles long? Why 150 miles? Yes my comments can be assinine, but the clue is in the question. As soon as you start putting facts to a story, the less beleivable it is. This is why Obama gets in to office.. the story was only Hope and Change.. and Belief. This is easy to believe in. Start putting any more meat on the bones and you can be challenged.

So how do we know they are 150 miles long? Has someoneone done some sort of pythagorean calculation of subtended angle with estimated distance... and if so.. what sort of tiny angle and huge distance gives the answer 150 miles ? And .. at these distances, and possible error of measuerment...these ships might be anything from 50 to 500 miles long...

Now if a story had some kind of science to it... suggesting very large ships of the order of... well, it might pique my interest. But funnily enough, these kind of stories are usually very exacting in their language, with NO room for debate or discussion. So it's 150 miles... not 151.. or 148... or even 1500 miles long (why not ?)

through reading avalon for at least two years... these stories.. and that's what they are always have a sensational element to them. In this case it's the size of the ship - 150 miles... (so we're supposed to go 'Ooooooh! 150 miles ??? corrr !!!') and the fact that THEY ARE APPROACHING... which gives a little element of excitement to the whole thing.. so there's probably a time-frame of their arrival included too. Why not have a nice story about 150 mile ships moving AWAY from the earth ?? I mean.. these ships can travel in all directions, surely ? So if a group are coming towards the earth at any one time, surely others are leaving ? (to nip back home, stock up on pretzels and gargleblasters and that kind of thing...)

The jokes are not a defence mechanism, merely a way to lighten the endless tirade of things about to happens to us.

Well, I believed in UFOs when I was 15 , and I still do.. and the day I see one on my lawn...or even on the Presidents lawn, will be a cool day indeed. but any one who has advanced knowledge of this day is just selling you snake oil....

(like we told Hitler when the Normandy landings were going to be ???)

all true -- still, they are building the DUMBS to prepare for protection against something -- & a lot of people see a lot of very strange things in the skies close to Earth these days -- & those who control the satellites & observatories are part of the lie-to-the-masses NWO -- & a lot of money is being spent on weaponizing space-- & i think there is some evidence that the NWO already has some off-Earth bases

& i do think that underneath everything, in the collective unconscious, all humans know something wicked this way comes -- it might come from the stars or from beings on Earth, but it's coming -- the hilarity that viking's post provoked sounded a bit hysterical to me, but maybe i mis-read, mis-heard it

[Kulapops]

nah.. the hilarity is just part of who I am Wynderer (and no, not everyone appreciates my sense of humour - so don't worry :) ). I'm not going to subjugate that part of me because something wicked this way comes. Au contrair.. I'm strapping on my armour and I'll go into whatever battle on whatever field with a smile.

But we don't know what that battle is, ...yet. I feel it could be much more an internal one than external though. For your mind, your sanity, your soul. Will you fight for others, yourself, for good ? (however that's defined?) Or for unity?

My suspicion is that if something is coming, it will be so leftfield that no one will expect the nature that it takes.. and the only thing you can take with you into that arena will be yourself.

So this is a time of self preparation. And I don't mean tins of lentils here.

Something is coming, I think... and the anticipation may drive many insane and into despair long before it actually arrives...

So why not keep a cheery heart meanwhile ?!

;)

That said.. I think Rhythm's thread is one of the most useful threads at Avalon in this respect...Avalon would be dreary indeed without her love and humour.

[Celine]

Viking dear.. it is so good of you to continue posting these finds, even with the ridicule some follow you with.

my two cents?

They are not coming

because..

They are here.

[Kulapops]

Hey.. here I have to step in and be clear.. it's not ridicule, but light hearted humour about these wonderful stories. It is certainly not a ridicule of Viking, whom I like and respect.

[Celine]

Well i believe your intent, the way you described it Kula...

but

vikings posts often get that kind of reaction.

My apologies if you felt singled out.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hey it would be very very difficult to insult me or ridicule...I take these things with hilarity...No worries Celine...you sweet lady.

And Kula I know where you're coming from!!! If they had said the ship is 147 Miles 25 feet and 4 inches!!! Would you take note?? Perhaps they are estimating.... who knows...

viking

[wynderer]

nah.. the hilarity is just part of who I am Wynderer (and no, not everyone appreciates my sense of humour - so don't worry :) ). I'm not going to subjugate that part of me because something wicked this way comes. Au contrair.. I'm strapping on my armour and I'll go into whatever battle on whatever field with a smile.

But we don't know what that battle is, ...yet. I feel it could be much more an internal one than external though. For your mind, your sanity, your soul. Will you fight for others, yourself, for good ? (however that's defined?) Or for unity?

My suspicion is that if something is coming, it will be so leftfield that no one will expect the nature that it takes.. and the only thing you can take with you into that arena will be yourself.

So this is a time of self preparation. And I don't mean tins of lentils here.

Something is coming, I think... and the anticipation may drive many insane and into despair long before it actually arrives...

So why not keep a cheery heart meanwhile ?!

;)

That said.. I think Rhythm's thread is one of the most useful threads at Avalon in this respect...Avalon would be dreary indeed without her love and humour.

nicely said, Kulapops -- i'm thinking of Hiram's 'Show Me Something Wonderful' thread, about what makes Earth & her humans worth saving -- you are reminding me that the Earth human sense of humor is one of those Something Wonderful things -- just as i can't visualize a Reptilian or Grey getting out on the dance floor & shaking it up, i can't visualize them, or the Tall Whites, telling a good joke & laughing it up w/friends

[Kulapops]

'after looking at the blueprints...' might have got me interested....

;)

[frank samuel]

150 miles long we might need a microscope instead of a telescope to view it, is just way too small. Anyway I bought my ticket just in case.:welcome:

[Kulapops]

..and anyway.. what's the pre-occupation with SIZE all of a sudden ? :o

Can't we have a story that says.... ' beautiful purple and green spaceships approaching the earth... with a lovely paint job, bio-domes, and nice curling flames all down the side....'

[Eric J (Viking)]

'after looking at the blueprints...' might have got me interested....

;)

Ahem ... ;)

Just one of many
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/homeworld/images/8/88/Assault_Frigate_Blueprints.jpg

viking

[Kulapops]

Kinetic burst cannon x2 ??? :cool:

Now why didn't you say so in the first place ????

Ok. Now I'm interested.

[morguana]

just hope its not vogons frank, they have terrable poetry by all accounts


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENgdM87Cqjg

lets hope that they are nice, kind and very lovely........the sort to bring chocolates and flowers, that would be very pleasent :)
and totally within polite etiquette

well viking i do so hope that one day your wish comes true :hug: :kiss:
love
m

edit to add, whats with the weapons of mass destruction? check out the armaments!!!!!! think we need to employ earths (bobs) cloaking device sooner rather than later.......just to be on safe side?

[Dale]

At the present time the object(s) are beyond the orbit of Pluto. It is estimated that the objects are in the neighborhood of 150 miles across by 30 to 50 miles wide.

It sounds like they're taking the slow, scenic route to Earth.

Or, maybe they're going somewhere else. I bet we'd all feel intergalactic-ly snubbed if they parked around Mars instead :p

[NeoEmc2]

Viking dear.. it is so good of you to continue posting these finds, even with the ridicule some follow you with.

my two cents?

They are not coming

because..

They are here.

Best reply in this thread so I had to quote it.

Much love to you viking for being such an open minded being. :neo:

[Kulapops]

Good point cipher.. who's to say they're coming here? Might be visiting their hillbilly cousins on venus...

'Hey , look maw, I gots me an earthman huck, huck, huck...Kan I keep it? can I ? Can I? oh please can I???'

Nah.. it's really in the details for me.. if the story had said 'really, really small spaceships coming to earth'.. I'd find find that a little bit more believable. Why does everything have to be BIG? :eek:

Is it an invasion by Wall-Mart ? We have one of those already...

[Eric J (Viking)]

Kinetic burst cannon x2 ??? :cool:

Now why didn't you say so in the first place ????

Ok. Now I'm interested.

Weeeeeeell you know me, I don't like to show off!!!

Thats just a small one to get me from a to b.

Once you pass your Intergalctic Supersonic Hyperspace Flying Licence....

Thats when the fun starts!!! :cool:

You get to play with the big toys>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :rockon:

Mogs>>>> that was funny!! lol

viking

[frank samuel]

..and anyway.. what's the pre-occupation with SIZE all of a sudden ? :o

Can't we have a story that says.... ' beautiful purple and green spaceships approaching the earth... with a lovely paint job, bio-domes, and nice curling flames all down the side....'

Okay Kula we can change the thread to say, Giant pink spaceship with feathers approaching our Galaxy . It could be a giant flying chicken who knows !!!

[morguana]

thats one huge chicken!!!!! wow wonder where its come from? hope it does a solar flyby coz no oven on this planet is big enough

[Kulapops]

Well.. you know what they say... 'Build it and they will come...' :)

Surely that applies to giant chicken ovens too...

What I don't understand is... write a thread that says...' Spaceship in the shape of a giant chicken heading towards Earth..' and no one would believe you...

But say 150 mile (not 149 or 151) spaceships heading towards earth.. and someone believes you.

Now, I think that's just not fair in a literary creation kind of way. It's so limiting !

[morguana]

spit roast anyone? ;)

edit to say sorry viking for going way off topic......its the no nicotine you know.....addles the brain

[frank samuel]

Whoopee time for a huge Avalon BBQ party, courtesy of the Giant chicken, (soy burgers for the vegetarians, cant forget about them of course).:hungry: Opps Mod hat back on:focus:

[Kulapops]

Who knows.. there could be a spaceship in the shape of a giant Soy Burger also heading this way...

Much harder to spit roast a soy burger though, they tend to fall apart...

[Arpheus]

I love your sense of humor kula never change the way you joke about things HAH,anyway i know viking doesn't take it personal and he is cool with it.

[Kulapops]

Actually.. I think the discussion of the validity of such claims being no more so than claims of giant space chickens even existing...is a philosophical one which is entirely ON topic.. but that's another story...

i.e. why do people like snails but hate slugs? Why do people like butterflies but can be squeemish about moths ? Why do people like ladybirds but can be squeemish about beetles ? And why is it ok to take stories about 150 mile spaceships and greys seriously... but not the idea that aliens might be quite cool people who enjoy a laugh as much as the next Zogron.... ?

P.S. Whilst doing my 'research' on the validity of space chickens... I came across this.. might please you Viking in a couple of spare moments..

http://www.evilspacechicken.com/games/flash-arcade-game.php?gameid=34802&gamename=alien invasion

[Fredkc]

that i've noticed on other threads that the more serious & real a topic is, the more jokes [some funny, some not] sprout up -- always trying to understand the human psyche -- is the joking some form of defense mechanism?
Basic human nature Wynderer.

Here I quote the most authoritative source on the planet:
"A man falls down an open manhole and breaks his leg - that's a tragedy.
A man falls down an open manhole and dies... now that's funny!!
- Mel Brooks

;) Fred

[Lost Soul]

If the big one is coming or isn't coming, big deal. We should concentrate on our own spiritual development.

[Caren]

I love your humor too Kula, Morguana, Viking and Frank! Thanks for the laughs.. :)
Just curious Kulapops... What are "Gargleblasters"?

[Kulapops]

I think it's on a thread here... do a search on avalon.. or check out the prophecies according to douglas adams... I've covered it there :)

What could be more valuable on Earth than a smile ?

Weighs nothing, highly portable... and priceless...

[morguana]

I love your humor too Kula, Morguana, Viking and Frank! Thanks for the laughs.. :)
Just curious Kulapops... What are "Gargleblasters"?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Boo9llCz4CM

am mixing a jug full anyone want one? good for colds i hear

[Caren]

Thanks Kula and Morguana, that's "Hi - Larious!" smile :)

[Eric J (Viking)]

*viking shrugs*

Perhaps its just a big blue blob!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9tktPY-PHA

viking

[rhythm]

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/profile-ak-snc1/object2/1875/111/n303406739671_8868.jpg
you mean this one:biggrin1:

[jaybee]

LOL Rhythm...



*viking shrugs*

Perhaps its just a big blue blob!!



A BIG PINK BLOB invaded earth a few years ago....


eInYFIGtsu8




BTW....Viking....Sky-Map.Org is flippin' brilliant....cheers.

[sojorner]

Great Thread....

Here's Stewart Swerdlow, and a a brief talk he did I the Kuipers Belt..and fake (or real) alien invasion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxKzUncKPKI&feature=related

Soj

[Harley]

thats one huge chicken!!!!! wow wonder where its come from? hope it does a solar flyby coz no oven on this planet is big enough

I wonder if Colonel Sanders is at the con? Sure hope it's Original Style! :hungry:

[Lost Soul]

BTW, are these giant space ships competitive when it comes to moving rates? Do they box your books or do you have to box them yourself?

[Harley]

Giant Spaceships Heading Towards Earth ?

Go here www.sky-map.org/ and check out this picture of a Spaceship/craft approx 15miles long, go to the site listed , then type the co-ordinates 19 25 12, -89 46 03 and zoom in on the blue object with the +/- on the left...

http://i54.tinypic.com/8yvm10.jpg

OK, I had to come back!

When I first seen the image accompanying Viking's post, it did remind me of something I'd seen recently. But I couldn't remember where, so I went on a witch-hunt and this is what I found:

http://www.hertsad.co.uk/polopoly_fs/dscf1165_1_652431!image/1950089822.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_225/1950089822.jpg

OK, I know it's a different color and the shape is a bit different. But still, there's something vaguely similar. There have been multiple sightings over the past couple of months.


More St Albans UFO sightings

Aimee Brannen , Chief Reporter
Friday, 17 September, 2010
19:00 PM

MORE UFO sightings have been reported across the district this week.

Phonecalls and emails flooded into the Herts Advertiser news desk after we revealed last week that a man in London Colney had seen some peculiar lights in the sky above St Albans at around 10.15pm on Sunday, August 29.

He saw more than 10 of the objects over a short space of time and did not believe they were Chinese lanterns – which can often explain such UFO sightings – as they were travelling very fast and in a straight line.

Rob Stichbury, who lives in the Roundwood Park area of Harpenden, saw something similar at around the same time that night. He said: “The bright object was travelling extremely fast coming from the St Albans/Redbourn area. It seemed to be following the path of the Nicky Line and took less than 15 seconds to cover the horizon.

“I only saw one and didn’t have time to get to the camera. Being a clear night it was instantly visible but certainly not a commercial plane as it was too large, bright and moving quite low and much faster than any other traffic. It disappeared in the direction of Luton Airport. Very strange indeed!”

Ken Collins, of Salisbury Avenue, also reports seeing something strange in the sky travelling faster than the speed of aircraft heading towards Clarence Park that night.

Liz Gurgur, who lives in the Marshalswick area, said she saw exactly the same thing as the London Colney man earlier this summer as she was driving home one night. She said: “I thought it was unusual as they were all in a straight line, spaced apart equally and high up. I was amazed, especially since I was once watching this programme which said there was going to be a lot more UFO sightings and I laughed at it.

“I’ve seen meteors before but this was different. If you imagine Christmas lights stringed up in a very straight line spaced equally apart, that’s what it looked like. But they were going quite fast at a constant speed, faster than a lantern or a kite. I’m sure there is a logical explanation for it but I don’t know what.”

Red lights

Gill Welsman from Southdown, Harpenden, has reported another UFO sighting in mid-August. As she was driving past Harpenden Common, she said she became aware of red lights in the sky and when she arrived home she got out her binoculars to examine the lights further.

She said: “I thought of hot air balloons but they were moving quicker. They were not as fast as a plane but travelling at helicopter speed. They weren’t as high as a plane, but well above the houses.

“When I got home I was interested enough to go out and have a look and could still see them going across the sky. I got out my binoculars – they weren’t hot air balloons, but all I can say is they were like translucent oval shapes filled with quite a bright orange or red light. I must have seen at least 10 to 12 of them.”

Another person from Bernard’s Heath, who asked to remain anonymous, saw a similar occurrence on Saturday, September 4, at around midnight.

The man reported hearing a faint thump and when he looked out the window to see where the noise had come from, he noticed what looked like a bright yellow/orange flame in the sky which moved at constant speed in the direction of Hemel Hempstead. More than 10 such lights followed, some travelling individually and others in small clusters.

The man, who said he often looked at the sky before going to bed, said: “I have seen many things in the night sky but never anything like this.”

Linda Lusby of Pondfield Crescent, St Albans, believes she may have a possible explanation for the string of recent sightings.

Along with her neighbours, she has been tracking the movements of the International Space Station and the times of her sightings correlate with what the London Colney resident described in last week’s paper.

She said there had recently been a sighting practically every night for between one and four minutes over St Albans and that it was sometimes seen on more than one occasion.

Mrs Lusby, who saw shooting stars at the same time one night, said: “It just suddenly appears very bright and moving across the sky, much bigger than any other star.”
http://www.hertsad.co.uk/news/more_st_albans_ufo_sightings_1_652432

I contacted Ms. Brannen regarding the photo and she replied:

They were witness photos.

[Eric J (Viking)]

According to this chap they are intelligently operated craft heading this way!! :confused:

Collision course with Earth??

Good guys or bad guys??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Fqqtgn10w&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVxdF_KBDoI

viking

[jaybee]

LOL.... Viking......:becky:

Those videas were pure comedy.

The guy in the first one....oh dear, oh dear.

I think he was a little bit drunk....


:thumb:

[Kulapops]

That video of the spaceship is hilarious !

What a riot. Someone's obviously had a very enjoyably afternoon with their crayons. Me, I used to enjoy 'designing' spaceships when I was about 11.. I'd draw them sideways on so you could see all the different rooms. There was nearly always a 'billiard room' for some reason too. No.. not talking cluedo either.

What I love.. is... who gets to draw those arbitrary lines and squiqqles over the video blob to make it look like a half decent spaceship ??? I mean... two nice lines down the centre... a couple of hatches.. a ziggedy-zag... a gun emplacement maybe ? If it was me I would have added some circles at least... for you know.. sky dishes and that sort of thing. Not to mention got to have an Uber-uber gun on there somewhere (what's the point of coming to earht if you're not armed to the teeth ?? I mean, come in peace and we'll tear 'em apart and do experiments on them... (yes.. we've all seen the films.. we know the routines... )

Anyway.. I know they're coming.. because this is what I saw through my telescope last night. Spookily similar evidence I'd say...

http://onemansblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Asteroids.jpg


I mean, 'it just looks like a giant letter A' you might say... but I'd say.. what do you know, huh?

Peace

K

[Swami]

Awake & Aware in LA

http://www.hertsad.co.uk/polopoly_fs/dscf1165_1_652431!image/1950089822.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_225/1950089822.jpg

Made me think of Bob Dean........
From min 52:00


http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2191990

[Eric J (Viking)]

Kula ... that was funny... I don't think you should get a job as an artist though!!

Anyway what do you think the big blue blob is??

viking

[Kulapops]

Looks like a space whale to me... Douglas Adams has already 'predicted it' It's probably thinking along these lines...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpiwRN6OA2A

Rather more seriously .. off the top of my head... I think three things....

1) Equipment error - whether that's software, hardware or any other where some fleck of dust..glitch.. out of focus blobule.

2) Deliberate disinfo - someone somewhere knows just how much people love UFO stories and set out for fun or otherwise to create a photoshop anomaloy sufficiently less detailed as to create enough 'reasonable doubt' that it can be called something. Just play the right music.. add a few lines.. and create a lovely story to add the juice 'Headintg this way' ??? Who's to say it isn't 'Heading Away !'. Snake Oil.

3) Did I say 3 ? See 1) and 2)

K

[Eric J (Viking)]

Mmmm maybe it's space gas ... A huge fart from Uranus ... :cool:

Well I thought it was funny...!!

viking

[THIRDEYE]

hello all,i like this post i hope these ships are of a good nature!!!the galactic federation says they will come and take poeple off the earth,however the galactic federation has said it will render all weapons of war redundant and useless whos to say what the intentions really are. alex collier i put alot of stock about the andromadens,and i also think we as a whole can change anything with our intentions of light for all who live on this planet!!!!!!!!....thirdeye...love light and abundance too all

[Kulapops]

not in front of the computer we can't...

I best get out of here now... my window won't paint itself ;)

Peace n love

K

[Studeo]

Hi all. What's the ETA for these?

[Harley]

Hi all. What's the ETA for these?

Don't know. But if you were to relate it to the Tentative Worldwide UFO Display on October 13, 2010 prediction (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?5554-Tentative-Worldwide-UFO-Display-on-October-13-2010) they had better hurry up! :popcorn:

[Kulapops]

How can you have a Tentative Worldwide Display ?? Is it a case of "now you see us... now you don't ?"

Or is it a booking they haven't fully committed too on account of not being sure of other prior engagements on other planets?

http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/mars_attacks2.jpg

I can say with absolute certainty there will be no show on the 13th.

Want to see a UFO for real ?

Here's one ...

http://www.viewzone.com/ufo.propulsion.head.jpg

Bit small I grant you.. but then, they are only 3ft tall and green aren't they ?

and how about this for the larger ones...

http://thetruthbehindthescenes.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/area51ufo2.jpg?w=640&h=512

Still not large enough? Well... maybe....this a little bigger ?

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00906/091011_ufo-682_906322a.jpg

Ok.. granted it's not 150 miles wide... but maybe 149...?

And then this looks stunningly real....

http://www.viewzone.com/ufo.smallcraft.jpg


You can even see the reflection in the water !!

No...? Too perfect ?? Maybe you like something, er, a little more grainy ?

Hey ! Now this is more like it.... you're bound to believe this one !

http://www.ufodigest.com/sites/default/files/ufo-spain.jpg

Someone took a picture and everything !

My point ? Well.. if you've seen one, great. If you ain't , you ain't going to believe until you see. If you're waiting to see one.. you're wasting your time, wishing your life away. They'll be here, or they won't. Wanting it isn't actually going to bring that date forward :)

Peace to all beings

K

[Eric J (Viking)]

LOL .... you are funny Kula !! I wonder which picture is the real one?? If any...

I am actually in agreeance with you here Kula ... I don't believe anything will happen on that date...(although I secretly wish it does) ...

But, we will have contact soon ... but I am not sure how it will come about!!

viking

[Kulapops]

I wanted to see UFOs when I was fifteen or thereabouts. I got books out of the libray and everything. For a few years, I was convinced that if I looked up at the sky I would see one go shooting past. I have even had a couple of experiences where you might go...'Hmmm.. wonder what [I]that/I] was...'

But all these stories are just cultivating our childlike sense of wonder and desire to beleive. I have kindly started another thread.. (benignly) just to show that with a bout two minutes work you can make up a story to go with a picture.

Neither have to be real. But the best story teller can deliver an experience you will want to beleive in.

Think on that...

What's in it for them? Fame glory and fortune.. and the fact that you have 'bought' whatever it is they're selling, which is:

The Story.

Keep 'em coming viking.. bout time we had one about those Evil Space Chickens...

K

P.S. I have a bone to pick with you Viking.. after posting the Evil Alien Invasion game linke (look up this thread) .. I've been playing it.. and it's been driving me nuts !!! See.. what you've done to me ?? Ahhhgghhh.. I'm melting.....

[apollo41]

why is it some people think we are going to be saved from beings from elsewhere? if thats the idea, they would have saved us decades ago and freed us from the corrupt evildoers of this world? they are probably coming for entertainment purposes, to see us suffer even more while chomping on their popcorn...(birds eye view) like reality tv?

[Eric J (Viking)]

I wanted to see UFOs when I was fifteen or thereabouts. I got books out of the libray and everything. For a few years, I was convinced that if I looked up at the sky I would see one go shooting past. I have even had a couple of experiences where you might go...'Hmmm.. wonder what [I]that/I] was...'

But all these stories are just cultivating our childlike sense of wonder and desire to beleive. I have kindly started another thread.. (benignly) just to show that with a bout two minutes work you can make up a story to go with a picture.

Neither have to be real. But the best story teller can deliver an experience you will want to beleive in.

Think on that...

What's in it for them? Fame glory and fortune.. and the fact that you have 'bought' whatever it is they're selling, which is:

The Story.

Keep 'em coming viking.. bout time we had one about those Evil Space Chickens...

K

P.S. I have a bone to pick with you Viking.. after posting the Evil Alien Invasion game linke (look up this thread) .. I've been playing it.. and it's been driving me nuts !!! See.. what you've done to me ?? Ahhhgghhh.. I'm melting.....

LOL I love your sense of humour...I do detect a liitle disapointment within your words...'childlike sense of wonder' I like that!! we are after all comparitavely speaking of course, little children to them...Hey you know and I know that UFO's/Et's exist...The veil needs to be lifted...soon...and it will...I am sure of that...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEs850rJkdg

Yes I saw the other thread ... ho ho!! :heh: You know that image shows up time and time again...some believe that its 'Nibiru' with the moons trailing behind... :confused: It is strange how this image keeps popping up over and over again and yet we still have no definitive proof of what it is??? Hey perhaps you've stumbled on something Kula....coooooould be a 'spaceship' !! :cool:

viking

[Kulapops]

I still don't get it, Viking...

Why do we need disclosure, if we know they exist? Seems unnecessary to me. :confused:

Sounds like someone's attempt to grab your attention if you ask me.

Do we need disclosure on God too then, in that case ?

Anyone got a prediction for when he's showing up ???

Oh, yeah.... I remember... go read Revelations....

;)

P.S. Viking.. I thought it would be really nice to have our threads side by side on the leader board... y'know, Giant Spaceships heading towards us.. and really little ones going the other way... :). Though I don't think mine attract anything like that kind of attention ;) lol... best wishes to you...

[The One]

Im going to say one word cuckooooooooooo

[Eric J (Viking)]

I still don't get it, Viking...

Why do we need disclosure, if we know they exist? Seems unnecessary to me. :confused:

Sounds like someone's attempt to grab your attention if you ask me.

Do we need disclosure on God too then, in that case ?

Anyone got a prediction for when he's showing up ???

Oh, yeah.... I remember... go read Revelations....

;)

P.S. Viking.. I thought it would be really nice to have our threads side by side on the leader board... y'know, Giant Spaceships heading towards us.. and really little ones going the other way... :). Though I don't think mine attract anything like that kind of attention ;) lol... best wishes to you...

Well if your happy to carry on with life as we know it...then carry on...

Why do we need disclosure....?? come on Kula I can't believe you said that...I'm sure you realize the amount of information that is held back from us...we live under a 'veil' ... such huge control system that is in place that we can only imagine what could be if certain things were lifted...

With Disclosure comes many things...both Spiritual and Physical ... all life would change forever...Humanity would'nt be the same...

Yes its all very well saying....'yes I know that' but 'we' are but a very small percentage and we cannot make the change unless the whole world knows!!

Its all very well knowing Kula. But the rest need to know as well.

Wishes to you as well my little Kula...

Anyway no point in singing the same old tune...we can sing once they arrive...perhaps you would like to be in my choir Kula...

viking

[bennycog]

I still don't get it, Viking...

Why do we need disclosure, if we know they exist? Seems unnecessary to me. :confused:

Sounds like someone's attempt to grab your attention if you ask me.

Do we need disclosure on God too then, in that case ?

Anyone got a prediction for when he's showing up ???

Oh, yeah.... I remember... go read Revelations....

;)

P.S. Viking.. I thought it would be really nice to have our threads side by side on the leader board... y'know, Giant Spaceships heading towards us.. and really little ones going the other way... :). Though I don't think mine attract anything like that kind of attention ;) lol... best wishes to you...

I think we need disclosure for the fact (and i understand it is that), that it will steam roll into us treating ourselves, each other, and the planet/universe the way we used to. i think our state of minds are fooled into believing we are meant to be living the way we are living now.
I for one am not having the wool pulled over my eyes.
I also think we could pull all our resources together and attemp a disclosure of sorts all on our own. But will we get any further than the ones before us?
I just wish we could find some real investigators in the main stream who will all come forward in a way that will wake people up. and then the questions can get asked on a much larger scale than me and you emailing to congress or parliment, wherever we may be. It would not have to be on ET but 9/11 start small and it will get large very quickly.. like a virus that we all want :)

bennycog

[Kulapops]

Hmmm.. how many years have we been 'looking' for UFOs and disclosure ?

And would you say that the general public is any the wiser , or closer than they were say, 50 years ago ?

So.. given that.. do you not think there might be a reason for that ?

I'll give you a couple to get you started...

1) Aliens don't want to be discovered.

2) There's a prime directive or equally 'Trekky' term involving non-involvement

3) They are here and the government is pretty good at keeping it all shtum.

Now some years ago.. the pope had 'words' with Galileo for pointing out that the world was round...

http://thelidodeck.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/galileo.jpg

So... did it really matter that the pope was pushing this old story ?

http://www.mnn.com/sites/default/files/user-39/flat-earth-painting-greendig.jpg

We don't need an announcement to have a belief. If we don't know about aliens (personally) then it's because the aliens have no interest in you.

Just like cats aren't generally interested in the Financial Times.

If a truth is not a truth (like the Earth being flat).. then over time, you will not be able to maintain that truth. Unless you're a flat earther of course.

However 'disclosure' is just a buzz word for 'marketing'.... and you can use this buzz-word to sell any old pound of tripe you like.

Because people want it. It's snake oil. It does whatever you want it to, cure your granny of boils or make your hair grow again.

Talking of imminent disclosure does not mean it's true. or will ever be so. If no one can back up the talk with real facts pertaining to a genuine alien ship or green blob... then it's green smoke is all you're getting....

I don't need disclosure to know aliens exist. It's a logical construct. And no one is going to be owning up to knowing stuff about them for the last 50 years... Have you ever heard a politician admit to making a mistake ? Hmm....

[Eric J (Viking)]

:rolleyes: Ok Kula if you're happy crack on ...

http://pantomimestudios.com/WebCHM/Bubble%20Photo.jpg

Now take a deeeeeep breath...:cool:

viking

[Ilie Pandia]

Official disclosure would be nice because:

1. I get to say "I TOLD YOU SO!!!" :p

2. And more seriously as Viking says it would be an awareness shifting event for the entire globe. It would be a new era. ("before disclosure" and "after disclosure").

I also agree with Kulapops that at a personal level I do not need disclosure but somehow I feel that things will be easier if everybody knew :). Or I am just hiding behind this concept, waiting for an external event to confirm an internal wish...

[Peace of Mind]

Disclosure is very important, it will confirm many things. In my case, I think the possibility of aliens is fascinating, but if I haven’t had the experience with one (yet) it would be very hard for me to believe they exist. Any stranger can jump on a forum and say he had contact, but if they can’t provide evidence (which is always the case) they will have a hard time convincing others and will face ridicule. It’s fair to say the least, because people are getting tired of others playing around with their intelligence. If I ever encounter an UFO/Alien I would stay tight lip until I can prove it. I refuse to look like someone seeking attention, or spreading more damaging dis-info.

Disclosure will help those looking to help others make changes for a better future. Disclosure will expose the evil doers so they can be dealt with. Disclosure, imho, is the event that will get people off of their rumps and forced them to think and create.

Without disclosure people will stay guessing and stagnated because they do not know what’s right…or feel things are right. They do not want to support a government that is withholding critical information and manipulating the masses with propaganda for an evil agenda. Without disclosure many innocents will/have died in vain. When much of our info about astronomy, aliens, and changing environments is coming from the very people we don’t trust, disclosure is very important. Where it comes from is equally important as well…

We may think we know what’s going on outside of our own atmosphere…but unless you take the trip out of space yourself…nothing is to be believed.

I admire those seeking truth and not just relying on hear say and vague inaccurate academics. The truth will always set you free, and that’s the reason why people ask questions and are seeking truths. Deep down, these truth seekers intuitions is telling them things aren’t the way they suppose to be. Disclosure will be the catalyst because humans always seem to need an important event to happen before they pull together. Keeping the populace divided and at differences with each other will keep us under the control of these wicked people/entities.

I’m all for disclosure. It will help me immensely in the work I’m doing for the people, my people, our people, our existence as well as our legacy. I would hate to see humans (of Earth) wimp out of their sovereignty because they were scared and believes its ok to be selfish until someone/thing comes along and pops their comfort bubble. Humans on Earth have blindly become too dependant on a corrupt way of living. I think most dread the fact that it’s going to take us humans to fix this mess…it says a lot about a persons character when they rather have another specie from somewhere else to take care of the problems we can handle ourselves.

Bring on the truth, I know some may not be able to handle it (in the beginning) but for us to move forward we need it…the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The beauty and the future of humanity depend on it.

Peace

[Kulapops]

Or I am just hiding behind this concept, waiting for an external event to confirm an internal wish...

I love it.. finally somebody gets it.

Nice one, undeadpixel.

K

P.S. Notice also how a thread entitled 'Giant spaceships heading our way' gets a massive readership and following. Whereas one entitled ' UFOs of no consequence sodding off' has a very small one. I think if the reader applies himself, they will notice something else about the human psyche there too...

[Peace of Mind]

Imo, the contients and seriousness of the thread is what makes the difference.

Peace

[Kulapops]

How is ""Giant Spaceships" in the least bit serious ?

Why do they need to be Giant to warrant attention? And giant by who's standards ?

150 miles across might be positively teeny for some races...

No the heading is sensationalist... a bit like the disclosure movement itself.

All I see here is wishing... and wishful thinking.. We'd like 150 mile giant spaceships to visit us.. because that would be cool.

There's no hiding Giant spacedships.... this shows an internal desire for unhiding the hidden.

Undeadpixel has it spot on.

This news item is about wishes, wishful thinking and what it is to be human. Which is why I love Avalon. what a great way to observe 'being human' writ large.

[Peace of Mind]

opinions isn't fact,

To me, the size doesn't really matter, what's on the ships matters a great deal. If this bit of info has the slightest bit of truth, it is very important to the mind of the human. The next steps in ones life...can be drastic if not planed accordingly. If it is false then it goes in to the ascending pile of rubbish.

Peace

[Kulapops]

Ascending pile of rubbish... !

Nice one... that's what resonates for me on this one, Peace of Mind.

Is there one concrete fact anywhere on the whole UFO thing ? Surely if there was, it would be in common usage that they exist... a bit like the Pope and Galileo's ding dong. So the fact that there isn't one irrefutable fact seems rather suspect to me.

But regardless of what I believe.. the facts are that there has been no disclosure in over a hundred years of sightings... and there is no special reason why there should be now rather than at any other time in history.

the only reason why that may feel so is our tendency to put ourselves at the centre of the universe.. and because it's something we want now.. the tendency is to wait/hope/expect that it's going to happen now. but it's not. I can tell you that, just by looking at the logical path that got us here. Years of non-disclosure followed by, wait for it, more years of non-disclosure.

But there is so much more wonderment available to us... I just think we're barking up the wrong tree focusing on things that aren't going to happen.

Focusing won't make it happen. Posting about it won't make it happen. One day it may happen. Just hope we're alive then... but I doubt it.

K

[Ammit]

Viking, I personally think you have enlightened me with superb information, this topic, should in my eyes be seen as more enlightened information.
As for the ridicule you have recieved, well, we all have the right to our own oppinions as many have shown.
I personally thankyou for delivering it as I believe that even if we dont all agree with what is put before us, maybe just looking or listening is enough to pass the message. How we choose to accept the information is entirely an individual choice.

I do hope you continue your chosen path to divulge what we need to hear.

Blessings to you Viking

Ammit

[Kulapops]

I think it bears posting again, with your comment Ammit... that there is no ridicule of Viking here as far as I'm concerned.

I can check back to which post that was if you like.

Beneath the 'humour' is a serious plea for people to actually look at the psychology of stories being reported, because I feel that that has a bearing on their truth.

If someone offered you a bottle of snake oil, I'm sure you'd be wearing of parting with a lot of cash for it. The wilder the claims, the more wary you'd be. Or at least I'd be anyway, I can't vouch for everyone here at Avalon I'm sure.

There's a lot of talk about 'questioning' right now... and I find it hard to swallow that we can write 'Giant spaceships heading our way' on this or any forum... and the only legitimate response to that is 'Wow..cool.. I just knew they were coming !'

Anyway, anyone is free to believe what they like, but false presentation of the facts is not OK in my book. I am not ridiculing Viking or any other being on this forum. I have said as much already. I am appealing to anyone who wants to see the funny side of taking any wild claim as fact. If there is ridicule... it is flung with a dollop of common sense at the information presented, not at persons. that would be against forum guidelines anyway...

K

[Ammit]

Kulapops, indeed people need to look and make up their own minds, with so much information `seemingly false flags` one would hope that common sense dictated as to how we digested such information.
We all have a mind, a choice and a say in anything within our world, even if others try to stop our oppinions.
I appologise if the word I used " ridiculed" was a bit harsh, but seeing as someone believed that information that was being shared would be of serious interest to others and only to see their efforts evolve in to a joke senario must be worse.

I dont know if I am being a bit too serious about this post but I believe we are in dire times and any information we can glean from any source, just may help....

Blessings

Ammit

[Kulapops]

Well.. I understand that's compassionate to imagine how someone might feel off to see their thread descend into humour, especially if they felt it personalised. I see your point... But it's not like this is Viking's first stab at this.. he's posts these all the time! . In fact, I'm probably acting from the same place in my heart as Viking is... doing my common duty... only that my calling is to say... 'Whooaahh.. there neddy... can you really believe this or that story ?' I have the benefit of two plus years reading all this nonsense (that's just my opinion btw - pardon me if you believe it) (ten years if you count 9/11) And that two years has given me a wonderful perspective on how much we as a readership are driven by story

If it's not a great story, then it won't float as news. And that's saying something. In the end, the readership don't care about facts they care about Story. Because story entertains. the heart, the mind, the soul. The bigger the story, the bigger the news item. Some people will make ridiculous claims. And other people won't challenge them.

Why? Because deep down we love to suspend our belief. As children we will listen in rapture to our parents tell us stories as we go to sleep. Who questions those ? We all know there is more to this existence than meets the eye.. and we enjoy anything that can take us to another realm, however fleetingly. Story can do that.

What bugs me, is that some people are suspending their daily life because of it. Me included !! (I'm on here, aren't I??). But they set their little hearts on aliens arriving tomorrow..or disclosure happening tomorrow... or Earthquakes happening tomorrow...(well Earthquakes is a much easier one if you ask me, but) ... and so time is wasted. Just what else could we have done with that time? What wonderful world could we build together if we took that one hour and spent it doing something else ???

My personal addiction is that I can't beleive the crowd gathered around the snake oil salesmen (the originators of the articles... not the finders of the articles btw) and I want to keep tapping them on the shoulder...and convince them to go and do something else instead.

[kinsuemei2]

I heard the wanted to return Glen Miller

[Humble Janitor]

Awake & Aware in LA

http://www.hertsad.co.uk/polopoly_fs/dscf1165_1_652431!image/1950089822.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_225/1950089822.jpg

Made me think of Bob Dean........
From min 52:00


http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2191990

Forgive me folks, but this thing looks like a giant hoo-hoo sleeve.

;)

[Eric J (Viking)]

Viking's first stab at this.. he's posts these all the time!

What on earth are you talkng about!!!..... " But it's not like this is Viking's first stab at this" ...whats this supposed to mean??? stab at what?? Jeeeeze Kula...I think you mis-read me... You talk a load of dribble at times!!!

One way or another we will be part of the Cosmic Family whether you are part of it or not...if you think for one minute we will be stuck on this planet without any Universal knowledge of whats up there, you think wrong. Our destiny is sharing with other beings the wonders of the Universe. And with this our Planet will become unified and we will be as we should!

The only reason why this has not happened is because we have been controlled, and informatiom has been suppressed for obvious reasons. Of course you know all this. Now if you like the way the Planet is being run at this time. then that fine we all have free will and I would never force my will on another being, as you should not as well. All I do is put information out and its up to the readers what they do with it. Simple. Let folk digest and make up there own minds.

Well anyway this Thread has gone way off topic.

SO I KINDLY ASK THE MODS TO PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD IMMEDIATELY.

Ammit thanks for your kind words...blessings to you too.

viking

[Richard]

Well anyway this Thread has gone way off topic.

SO I KINDLY ASK THE MODS TO PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD IMMEDIATELY.


viking

As per the OP's request, Done