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baddbob
13th February 2013, 19:41
For newbies dont let the length of the interview deter you she is well worth the listen.
Heres the latest from this great lady not sure where to post this feel free to move it.
Dolores Cannon is experiencing an evolution in her work as a hypnotherapist. Her clients (who are coming from all over the world) are no longer experiencing regressions into past lives. They are returning to the Source (God) to explain why they are living here in the world now.
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Dolores'e radio show The Metaphysical Hour hosted by Dolores & Julia Cannon
http://www.bbsradio.com/bbc/the_metaphysical_hour.php
More for the newbie heres a great interview from project camelot
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shadowstalker
13th February 2013, 21:24
I have nearly all her book on my amazon wish, and sorry to say there going to be there a while so for now, i'll just have to settle for the vids.
Thank looks like one i haven't seen yet.
Snookie
13th February 2013, 21:57
I'm currently reading her second Convoluted Universe book. It's interesting how as time goes on, more and more of her clients are providing more info on what's going on behind the veil. It correlates well with what David Icke is talking about.
Wind
13th February 2013, 22:19
I've watched so many videos of her, including those. One of the best Camelot interviews ever, IMO.
I just love the things she speaks about and I do believe that we are heading to New Earth, meaning that your soul is ready for it. I probably should also read her books even though they have not been translated into my language yet.
Joseph McAree
13th February 2013, 22:33
Hi baddbob, thanks for the post why does the planet only have one Delores, strange that we don' t have more individuals just like her, I hope she is working on an apprentice programme and teaching 100's to do what she can do. Delores is brilliant, I have beeen following her for sometime on you tube,
Kindest regards and best wishes
Joe
Quantum Odyssey
13th February 2013, 23:40
Hi Everyone!
Dolores Cannon has actually trained approximately 2,000 people world wide to date. I am one of those people who was trained by her over two years ago and conduct sessions using her method.
It is truly amazing work and while many are still visiting past lives for clarity and understanding, many people are experiencing answers via their SC( subconscious or higher self) without going backwards on the timeline.
Some are even experiencing parallel lives and future lives!
Quite a few people that have seen me actually have only been to this planet once or twice...coming in from other dimensions such as the 12th.
It truly pushes ones current concept of "reality" and all it contains. The Ets and aliens might just be the people who we see everyday and not some "alien" looking creature. ;)
Mindy
cloud9
13th February 2013, 23:42
Hi baddbob, thanks for the post why does the planet only have one Delores, strange that we don' t have more individuals just like her, I hope she is working on an apprentice programme and teaching 100's to do what she can do. Delores is brilliant, I have beeen following her for sometime on you tube,
Kindest regards and best wishes
Joe
Dolores Cannon teaches her method of hypnosis all around the world and every student can get the same results as her. I took her class some years ago but I finally didn't choose being a hypnotist as a career but I tried. It was terribly tiresome and just for one session you need to set apart at least 4 hours. My sister has practiced the method many times with different people and the sessions are awesome!
All I can say about her is that she is a wonderful human being.
Just one more thing..... her name is Dolores not Delores as many think it is. As far as I know Dolores is a spanish name which means pains (because is plural), it was a very common name some years ago but fortunately parents are getting smarter.
greybeard
13th February 2013, 23:51
Hi Joe
There have been others.
One of the first books I read was "Mass dreams of the future" not as in depth but some similarity.
"Many lives many Masters" another Hypnotherapist Brian Weiss I think.
The Near Death Experiences posted here say much the same as Dolores http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.&p=632473&viewfull=1#post632473
Dolores has been training others up to do the same all over the world.
Eckhart Tolle's books "The Power of Now" and "A new Earth" good reads.
Drumvelo Melchizedek has also been writing about and speaking about us moving into a new dimension.
All time consuming to find but reassuring.
Chris
Marikins
14th February 2013, 02:06
I saw her live last year and she gave pretty much the same info as the vids, but what was cool is she hypnotized the whole room for past lives. We were all starting to get into it when one woman knocked over a stack of chairs. :gaah:
WhiteFeather
14th February 2013, 03:01
You just gotta LOVE Grandma. I resonate with all her materials. What An inspiring being and a kind warm soul. I Went thru several books of hers. The Custodians, Convoluted 4 and The Watchers. Im currently reading Jesus and The Essenes as we speak. Granny Rules! ;)
Kristo
14th February 2013, 03:19
Dr. Michael Newton also does Life Between Life regressions.
LOVE Grandma Dolores! She tends to have a more intuitive approach than Dr. M.N. ~different backgrounds & interpretations but patients of both share similar stories. Very cool new info :-)
Hugs,
Kris
Neal
14th February 2013, 14:36
You just gotta LOVE Grandma. I resonate with all her materials. What An inspiring being and a kind warm soul. I Went thru several books of hers. The Custodians, Convoluted 4 and The Watchers. Im currently reading Jesus and The Essenes as we speak. Granny Rules! ;)
I definitely agree with WhiteFeather, the material from Grandma Dolores resonated with me for everything I read of hers including (in this order) The Three Waves of Volunteers and the New Earth, The Keepers of the Garden, The Custodians, The Convoluted Universe I-IV, then The Three Waves a second time -- that's a lot of pages to read of very densely packed information that is extremely thought provoking. I had also started reading the first in the Nostradamus trilogy and that was very interesting as well. I'm taking a break from Dolores' books for a bit since that was about 4500-5000 pages of reading...
Her books and info are great and well worth the time to read them!
Just to let you folks know, Dolores' website is currently beta testing an online class. They should have it open for enrollment to the public in a short while after the 10 person beta test group gets through the course. Check out http://www.dolorescannon.com/learn-qhht-online for more information and to see when it becomes available.
BlueGem
14th February 2013, 16:11
The "Convoluted" series left me with headaches but the information is important and definitely stands the test of time. I am currently reading Dr. Karla Turner's books, and although they are set in a different tone, it's amazing what correlations can be drawn between these coherent and well-written researchers.
baddbob
14th February 2013, 16:28
Its so great to learn of the people here that have taken courses from Grandma C. I cant believe she doesn't seem to age she still looks like the sweet lady Ive known in the past. It would be great to hear from the ones that have taken courses from here and that have been through some of her sessions. I feel so comfortable listening to her it just resonates so well and really ties into a lot of what I(we) know. Titanium said it best "why does the planet only have one Delores, strange that we don' t have more individuals just like her" If she has trained approximately 2,000 people as Quantum Odyssey has said help is on the way. If we ever do have a podcast here I bet she would be delighted to give a little speech for free perhaps.
Nickolai
14th February 2013, 16:34
Thank you! Here is an interview with Dolores in Moscow.
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And a healing meditation with Dolores. Though the translator is under the hypnosis I suppose...LOL
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Nickolai
Ultima Thule
14th February 2013, 16:50
Her stories are very much in line with others, which on one hand lends to credibility, on one, cynical hand could be seen as a common, manipulated, shared illusion where people read something which they then later "see" for themselves or get insights of - to be able to feel being right about it. I would actually go so far that as Dolores has done her hypnosis(was it) has had an expectation of her own that perhaps could be picked up by her subjects and yet another illusion is created into existence, answering to her non-verbal expectations.
I respect her, no axe to grind at all, but I thought I´d play the devils advocate and question whether what she among others have been saying adds up? We should be the most cunning, clever, deductive people possible - if we are too gullible, aren´t we just what tptb think of us? This is not personal in regards to her at all, a thought just occurred while reading this thread and listening to her.
Mostly I find a paradox in the following(in relation to general new earth consensus so to speak): according to some, heaven should be brought down to earth on the other hand and people should be developing abilities beyond our normal spectrum in this very reality. On the other hand Dolores is talking about in essence the new earth being populated by people dying from the old earth. It can´t be both, I would think?
So:
a. any of you turning their physical body into light beings?
b. any of you witnessed anyone turning their physical body into light being?
c. anyone thinking that a prominent figure(at the magnitude of Dolores & co) has recently died, correlating with this person raising his/her frequency by that process?
I am asking because it is very easy to refer to something that one read or heard somewhere, but when asked for real, provable cases of something spectacular, we have but gossip.
We might be waiting - not unlike alcoholists or other addicts - of a tomorrow where we ascend, develope, resonate higher etc. until a singular moment of great change. What if this eternal waiting for tomorrow is distracting us from our daily life and what could be done there to improve ones awareness? I have definitely seen change in myself and many peoples abilities in general, the world has changed in the last 10-15 years, but are we being distracted of the very basic work to be done on a daily basis, while waiting for something spectacular?
What if this life in here is not meant to raise into anything transparent, but we instead should be trying to let our soul to seep through more and more to biological life, in good and bad? What if the so called ascension will never be anything than something that can take place at the time of the death of physical body?
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baddbob
14th February 2013, 18:33
Thank you! Here is an interview with Dolores in Moscow.
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And a healing meditation with Dolores. Though the translator is under the hypnosis I suppose...LOL
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Nickolai
Thanks for the translation :)
AlaBil
14th February 2013, 18:53
If anyone want to know why this place is so great, this thread is an example. Logging in today and clicking new posts, brings this thread up on the first page. Sounds interesting so I click to find out. Wow! Never heard of Dolores Cannon, but now I have listened to a video with others to follow and ordered two books.
Thanks all for such an enlightening place with interest in so many things I am learning. Now if I just had the time to listen to all and read all.
tonius
14th February 2013, 19:25
At the end of the video when asked about the ''negative'' aspect of Et intervention she absolutely denies it, in fact she affirms its positive,that they want us to succed, but they '' cant interfere''. Then please someone explain me what all the abductions, the different hierarchies of Et we have discussed in plenty of threads is all about. It amases me how is it possible that many other reserchers ,like Malanga (italy), who use also similar methods,where people in a trance state, recall their abductions, all saying the same thing ,describing the same Et races, in the same sorruoundings. and Dolores in all these years has never noticed such things.
While many of the things she says make sense to my understanding at the moment i cant help but to notice something doesn't feel right here. the picture she paints of what is happening here ,now, is very distorted in my opinion. I know that at the end of the day no Being is really good or bad, they are what they are ,moved by their intentions at a specific moment of their evolution,like all of us, and i would perfectly agree with this, but from this to ignoring every piece of evidence we have by saying they are positive, and are helping us.
I dont know if she sincerely doesn't know,in which case i would really be amased, or she really belives whatever the voices say,but again how is it possible to work in so many years with people , past lives, deep trance states, and not come by such huge coverup, abductions and the alien hierarchies from reptilians to greys,and Ra and friends, in fact at the moment they are the only ones we have more ''real'' ''palpable'' interaction, although not of the kind we would prefer.
Her message of ''Prison upgrade'' or ''New earth'' as she calls it and Positive Ets thinking all day about our well being doesnt resonate with me, i hope im wrong.
baddbob
14th February 2013, 20:36
If anyone want to know why this place is so great, this thread is an example. Logging in today and clicking new posts, brings this thread up on the first page. Sounds interesting so I click to find out. Wow! Never heard of Dolores Cannon, but now I have listened to a video with others to follow and ordered two books.
Thanks all for such an enlightening place with interest in so many things I am learning. Now if I just had the time to listen to all and read all.
Its funny you should say that I just had the same feeling with Vivek thread The Technological Revolution: Artificial Intelligence and the Invisible Plague so much info there that I will be there for about a month lol.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55117-The-Technological-Revolution-Artificial-Intelligence-and-the-Invisible-Plague
greybeard
14th February 2013, 21:09
For myself I like to cross check as much as possible.
There are discrepancies that surface as a result of virtually every cross check.
By cross check I mean different sources-- How ever there seems to be a core that these sources agree upon.
I look at the Near Death Experiences, enlightened spiritual teachers, also people like David Sereda, Nassim Haramein and Gregg Braden who combine science with spirituality at a deep level and of course Dolores and Drumvelo.
Simply the core essence as I understand it is that.
There is a strong chance of further life threatening earth/climate changes.
There is an opportunity for the next major step forward in the evolution of human consciousness.
There is scientific proof that the energy coming from the centre of the universe can upgrade our consciousness.
All this is cyclic.
It is important that we let go of all negative emotions--feelings.
We forgive.
We treat others as we would like to be treated.
We respect and love others as we love ourselves.
That's my simple take on it.
We are lucky to have Dolores and the others I mentioned and many others pointing the way.
Chris
truthseekerdan
14th February 2013, 22:36
One should research all avenues and keep what is useful. No one has all the answers or the "pieces of the puzzle" in this world. However, for what is worth and I say it from following my hearth -- Dolores C. was very blessed to discover many "pieces of the puzzle" we humans call truth. I can also say that I read most of her books, and the info gathered played a major role in my awakening to say the least. Many blessings and thanks...
Much Love :-D
Camilo
14th February 2013, 22:59
She's so cool for her age, and full of wisdom and grace.
shadowstalker
14th February 2013, 23:20
Does anyone realized that Cynthia Crawford was in the first video in the OP?
Another one of Camelots guests. Or rather they just recorded her lecture..
Quantum Odyssey
15th February 2013, 23:27
Dear Tonius,
Even though I have been trained by Dolores I frankly have the same questions you do. I even asked her directly regarding only that there are only benevolent ETs in existence.
I personally think that we live in a Universe of duality...the planet Earth can not possibly be the only place in the entire Universe where duality exists. When it comes to Ets, New Earth etc I believe it is imperative to keep an open mind yet impart critical thinking and our intuition at the same time.
While I do have tremendous respect for Dolores and her years of work, Remember that Dolores is not a psychic, while she is a researcher, she is simply relaying what people under hypnosis have told her in sessions. I believe that no one human being has the whole truth about anything, only fragments of the truth as they are viewed through a multi faceted prism funneled through our filers of reality and experience.
When it comes to negative alien based abductions I do personally believe a large amount of these encounters are actually secret government or illuminati based operations where they cover their tracks by implanting false memories of aliens to cover the Mkultra and Monarch programing that they are executing on the individuals. So in that regard the answer would be that it wasn't a malevolent ET encounter.
As for the New Earth... I have trouble wrapping my head around an actual physical twin Earth coming into existence and existing at the same time. Again I feel interpretation is everything here. I too admit that perhaps I don't have the capacity to conceive of something that has never happened before. I conducted my own research project and wrote a short book on the subject of New Earth, The Shift of 2012 etc. because I had so many questions just like you. I wanted to see what answers I could find using QHH (Quantum Healing Hypnosis).
I placed two different people under hypnosis and went forward instead of backwards (past life regression) and asked a series of questions like these.
Interestingly it was mentioned that this March 2013 is when a flash of light was going to go across the planet thus part of the great enlightening or awakening and connecting of one mind. Yet not all would be aware of it or more importantly would not want to know it because it makes everything they have ever known false...part of the great illusion. In that way they will indeed be with the "old" Earth because they will choose to stay blind. Ha, They are going to choose the blue pill instead of the red! (Matrix, the movie)
Sounds cool but Basically we just have to wait and see what's coming our way because nobody knows til we get there what's going to happen.
In closing we were born with a brain for a reason, the ability to think critically for a reason and an intuitive gut instinct for a reason. No one should be starry eyed and bow at the feet of any mere mortal on Earth thinking that they have all the answers.
I was born asking "WHY?" over everything and have always hated the answer "because I said so". I will die asking why and never accepting an answer that feels wrong lol!
P.s. If anyone is interested the book is an ebook called "Quantum Odyssey" on Booktango.com or Amazon
I 'll share some excerpts about how the Shift in large part has to do with a form of free energy coming to the planet and that benevolent ETs are trying to get our worlds governments to let of the power hold and enslavement of mankind...fascinating stuff!
Mindy
At the end of the video when asked about the ''negative'' aspect of Et intervention she absolutely denies it, in fact she affirms its positive,that they want us to succed, but they '' cant interfere''. Then please someone explain me what all the abductions, the different hierarchies of Et we have discussed in plenty of threads is all about. It amases me how is it possible that many other reserchers ,like Malanga (italy), who use also similar methods,where people in a trance state, recall their abductions, all saying the same thing ,describing the same Et races, in the same sorruoundings. and Dolores in all these years has never noticed such things.
While many of the things she says make sense to my understanding at the moment i cant help but to notice something doesn't feel right here. the picture she paints of what is happening here ,now, is very distorted in my opinion. I know that at the end of the day no Being is really good or bad, they are what they are ,moved by their intentions at a specific moment of their evolution,like all of us, and i would perfectly agree with this, but from this to ignoring every piece of evidence we have by saying they are positive, and are helping us.
I dont know if she sincerely doesn't know,in which case i would really be amased, or she really belives whatever the voices say,but again how is it possible to work in so many years with people , past lives, deep trance states, and not come by such huge coverup, abductions and the alien hierarchies from reptilians to greys,and Ra and friends, in fact at the moment they are the only ones we have more ''real'' ''palpable'' interaction, although not of the kind we would prefer.
Her message of ''Prison upgrade'' or ''New earth'' as she calls it and Positive Ets thinking all day about our well being doesnt resonate with me, i hope im wrong.
Wind
15th February 2013, 23:45
Dolores said in her Project Camelot interview that she was approached by the cabal and she didn't like to talk about it so chances are that she is probably "advised" to not to talk about negative ET's or then she actually hasn't encountered a patient who has never been abducted by malevolent forces. She has covered so much material, but maybe some of it was too sensitive for the cabal so she was told to not talk about it and that's why she has been able to continue her work.
The Truth Is In There
16th February 2013, 13:21
At the end of the video when asked about the ''negative'' aspect of Et intervention she absolutely denies it, in fact she affirms its positive,that they want us to succed, but they '' cant interfere''. Then please someone explain me what all the abductions, the different hierarchies of Et we have discussed in plenty of threads is all about. It amases me how is it possible that many other reserchers ,like Malanga (italy), who use also similar methods,where people in a trance state, recall their abductions, all saying the same thing ,describing the same Et races, in the same sorruoundings. and Dolores in all these years has never noticed such things.
While many of the things she says make sense to my understanding at the moment i cant help but to notice something doesn't feel right here. the picture she paints of what is happening here ,now, is very distorted in my opinion. I know that at the end of the day no Being is really good or bad, they are what they are ,moved by their intentions at a specific moment of their evolution,like all of us, and i would perfectly agree with this, but from this to ignoring every piece of evidence we have by saying they are positive, and are helping us.
I dont know if she sincerely doesn't know,in which case i would really be amased, or she really belives whatever the voices say,but again how is it possible to work in so many years with people , past lives, deep trance states, and not come by such huge coverup, abductions and the alien hierarchies from reptilians to greys,and Ra and friends, in fact at the moment they are the only ones we have more ''real'' ''palpable'' interaction, although not of the kind we would prefer.
Her message of ''Prison upgrade'' or ''New earth'' as she calls it and Positive Ets thinking all day about our well being doesnt resonate with me, i hope im wrong.
the "negative" ETs don't fit into her paradigm. she probably wouldn't know what to do with such information after decades of basically "positive" messages so she doesn't receive any of these.
we live in a controlled simulation. the "negative" ETs are a part of the game but her job is to be a messenger for the "positive" side. nevertheless you could say it's been the "negative" ETs game because they could do whatever they wanted and "positive" ETs or beings were very limited in what they were allowed to do. the "negative" beings could basically take any "positive" message or event and turn it upside down.
"masquerade of angels" is a good example of how someone was influenced by both "positive" and "negative" beings and the "negative" ones made a bigger impression. it's happening all over the world since thousands of years. you have to sift through the information and remain skeptical but not so much to become pessimistic. another example is sai baba, who a lot of people see as an ascended master or something but who in fact is a reptilian shapeshifter and one of the "negative" players.
we're here for soul growth and that happens especially if we're offered choices and temptations from the "negative" side while the "positive" side is severely limited in its options. still choosing "good" over "evil" despite the odds is what makes for soul growth. there's a lot of truth in the bible and other religious texts but the truth is hidden and you have to know how to interpret it.
beings from other alien races even incarnate here as humans in order to experience this game with its "negative" temptations. it wouldn't work if "positive" beings were allowed to influence us to the degree the "negative" ones are allowed to because it would wipe out "negativity" and thus negate the whole point of the game.
tonius
16th February 2013, 18:06
''Quantum Odyssey'' and ''The Truth Is In There'', thank you for giving your point of view. I agree that in the big picture the concept of ''good'' and ''bad'' doesn't exist, that all is experience, that those are just judgments from a certain point of view. But the thing is we at this moment (although time doesn't exist as we think it,... etc) we are in THIs side of the show , we are performing , and independently of how we ended here, playing, we are still here, so in some way we have to use for the sake of semplicity some of these concepts, such as ''good'' and ''bad''.
What i mean is : if something, being it an Event or another Being helps making my ''playing'' experience here more ''valubale'' i would consider it ''good'', the opposite ''bad''.
Still there is a dilemma, ''good'' from what point of view ? If i take into account the practical side of living,the classical way of looking at things the ''bad'' and ''good'' concepts are at their top importance, but when i consider myself as an Infinite being the scenario changes , what was bad becomes good, because although the immediate implications of a certain happening may be painful, from the bigger point of view it may be very ''valuble'', you learned a lesson, expanded your counsciousness, in a few words did what you came here for.
Although this last sentence is aligned what i think to be more truthful for me at this moment, i couldn't blame someone who would disagree with me, sm who maybe never bothered himself with the ''spiritual'' stuff, but who comes to know he is being abducted, and he didn't even know it until sm like Malanga , one of the rare cases where the scientific mind and the desire to learn really the truth work together , tells him he is literally being used by these creatures . Does it really matter at this point, to know that in some way we have created them, for the good of our evolution.
I understand the holographic concept, in fact i think its true, but the fact is as long as we are in this side of the screen when a mosquito is on your arm sucking your blood you FEEL it, although you know its just an illusion , just an exchange of information in an immense database, still you feel it and you do smth about it, usually me included we know what the first reaction is, but there is also the choice for those feel more loving to just shake the arm without ending the life of the mosqituo. Whatever you do the important thing is you acted on it ,no bad no good.
Now to round up things, what if instead of Malanga you went to Dolores ,who told you that there is no Mosquito (analogy for '' Badly Intentioned Et Beings ) at all, that even if you subconsciously feel the discomfort of smth wrong, although not consciously aware of what it is exactly, its just your body adapting to the new earth,,,,,, Yea right, But plase let me deal with the mosquito at this moment, and than see what happens with the new earth.
And in case you insist and notice the ''mosquito'' , again analogy for these kind of Ets, then the Solution is not to worry about it ,they have their reasons to come here, take people, experiment on them, ruin their lives, without them knowing it in most of the cases, you just ignore it, ''worship'' them, ALLL is GOOOD, just wait to be transferred to the ne Pri... sorry New Earth.
Things are even worse , she doesn't give the opportunity to people to decide for themselves what to make of it : I mean something simple and clear like : ''Look my friend, wihile playing around with your subconscious and you ''hidden'' memories i found that a strange group of ''guys'', beiungs, is taking you frequently from your reality, experimenting with you, hacking into your soul energy,connection, and bringing you back. And this is happenening to many others. Lets see what this is all about, no judgments just figure out as better as we can ''What it is all about''.
I dont care if she resembles my dear grandmother, has comforting things to say, and my considerations have nothing to do with with her as being, i don't doubt her intentions may be good, but please give the whole picture and let people decide , i dont need comfort, i need ppl who tell things as they are.
One last thing, why i am not convinced by this graduation tricks, because in this scenario we are the ''heroes'', if there are such in this simulation, being an infinite being with unlimited potential and deciding to come or maybe being tricked here ( again, no one really knows how they ended here, as dolores said ''blank slate'', it might be to learn or just caught up in an endless game), takes a lot of courage, and now looking at these being as our saviours, or think they somehow have the answers, while they take ppl and experiment on them, what can i say.
I see many proof around ,as scientific as it can get about this ''bad'' interference, in fact physical proof, recordings of sessions of different ppl, different ages from diffrent parts of the world,telling almost the same things, how probable? PPl with implants, scraches , and many other.
Please give me some proof of good ET intervention that equals even a little the above mentioned. And yet Dolores has turned upside down this. Please let ppl decide and tell all you hear on your sessions, dont just fit what you hear to what you belive, but i guess being impartial with a Voice telling you all the time how it is it must be hard, are we sure that voice is coming from her ''Infinite I'' and not some soul ''hacker'' with a vivid imagination and nothing better to do.
Would you bet your evolution on the sincerety of these voices? I can't, i cant because many times i cant even figure out if my voices are from my soul, my mind playing around, or some other entity with the bad habbit of driving ppl to the edge
We still have no freakin idea how we ended here, I mean isnt that supposed to the first question we would make if we could speak as babies. Then yet everyone has the answer ,we came here to learn. I agree , all is learning, so is maybe to trust your insticts and ask simple question like, Isn't that strange that everywhre beings in some degree remeber who they are, their story, exept earth?
To me it doesnt feel right, what you call learning to me is just remembering , or having clues about out real nature, our infinite nature coming out as the process of ''brainwashing'' done before birth begins to fade out. In fact for how long can you hold an infinite being in ignorance ? That would explain the recycle process and all the nice stories to keep it going , birth, death, again and again, the illusion of you being in a mission.
The sad truth is we have no clue whats happening, and as that is too sad we have to give a reason to ourselves to justify how we got from infinity to such limitations and ignorance, that infinite spark still fires up here and there so we get a glimpse of what it is to really be you, and that seems magic, but no we instead listen to other voices telling we have to recycle until we learn, really ?
I dont care what is the general opinin, i have felt that glimpse and i wnat to remember , i dont have the need of all this, and trust me i am not pessimistic at the moment, in fact i am quite relaxed, i now consciously decide to end the game now, just puuf, no need for further explenations, yet nothing happens, Meaning? I am not in charge , smth else is happening, isn't that doubtful?
Thats when i hear of voices, New earths, and of such loving Ets while we are doing the hard work,i just cant go on, i dont need hope ,i already know what i am , just not finding the keyes of the cage, smth made sure they saty well hidden. Maybe it was really my ''Infinite I'', but still then i dont care , i have the right to even slap myself on the face, in fact thats the first thing i intend to do when i really wake up.
So my problem with Dolores is that she doesnt give all the options and let ppl chose, she just whipes out the bigger portion of the picture and goes further by taking the responsability of telling that they are all good while all evidence ,maybe the only we have at the moment points to the opposite. Sorry but i can't resonate with it, it just seems a coverup in the coverup, like we hadn't enough of those.
Sorry for the long post.
truthseekerdan
16th February 2013, 20:58
Dolores said in her Project Camelot interview that she was approached by the cabal and she didn't like to talk about it so chances are that she is probably "advised" to not to talk about negative ET's or then she actually hasn't encountered a patient who has never been abducted by malevolent forces. She has covered so much material, but maybe some of it was too sensitive for the cabal so she was told to not talk about it and that's why she has been able to continue her work.
Thought on shedding some light on what is actually "good and evil" also known as "positive or negative", from Dolores' book "Between Death And Life (http://www.amazon.com/Between-Death-and-Life-ebook/dp/B003J35JU6/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1361047651&sr=1-1&keywords=between+death+and+life)" excerpt from Chapter 10: "Satan, Possessions and Demons".
Below is a longer quote from the book -- note that D = Dolores, and S = subject under hypnosis (trance).
D: But there is much that we call "evil" in the world.
S: Evil is not an accurate term. This gets back to what is good
and what is bad. It’s simply misguided, that would be a more
appropriate term. In our perceptions the things which you
call "evil" are merely energies which are misguided or misdirected.
These energies are simply not evolved. They are
not personifications of evil. They are not entities, so to say.
There is no such Devil sitting on people’s shoulders telling
them to do this or that. On this side we have no concept of
evil, for evil is merely a disharmony between the two forces
and this has been given the term "evil," in order for your
human conscious mind to be able to comprehend this disharmony.
Please understand there is no incarnate evil. There
is no such thing as a Satan who is walking the Earth and
snatching the souls from people. This is a fallacy and a story
which was created in order to understand disharmony. I will
use an analogy. There is positive and negative on a battery.
If you are going to jump a car you have two jumper cables to
hook up, positive and negative. And if you leave one off;
well, you’re going to sit for a while, aren't you? So it can be
seen that both are necessary. Neither is more. important,
more helpful or useful for they are equal in importance and
usefulness. So shed your fascination with evil and good for
this is an inaccurate concept and will hinder your conceptions
and understanding.
D: Did these energies come here from somewhere else?
S: They’re energies that live on this planet. We are all energies.
You are an energy, your soul is an energy. These are the
energies I speak of. We could say souls.
D: Would this go dong with the idea that thoughts are thugs?
S: Exactly. Thoughts are energy. Thoughts are real manifestations.
Thoughts are, period.
D: You mean, by people thinking about these bad things happening
to the world they are actually creating these thugs?
S: This is true. Thinking of hell on Earth will bring it just as surely
as going out and building it by the sweat of your brow. It may
not occur in the same way but it will just as surely occur.
D: Then by thinking of these things and fearing them, people are
creating a thought energy that is powerful enough to cause
them. Is that correct?
S: That’s exactly right. A thought is energy. Your soul manipulates
energy. Thinking is manipulation of energy. A thought
is a willful act. The purpose is to counteract this disharmony
by bringing in fresh energy, new ideas, hope, new directions.
It’s the intention of the thought itself that counts. If you send
someone love, that is the intention. If you wish something in
return for that, you may send them love but that is not the
intention. It is entirely dependent on what is expected.
D: And this cannot be disguised. The true feeling comes
through - is that what you mean?
S: The sender knows what the intentions are. The receiver
may not.
D: Then if it is true that there is no such thing as evil and there is
no such thing as the Devil, where does our concept of evil come
from?
S: Do you really wish to know? There is one word that sums
this whole concept up easily. (He spelled out) E-X-C-U-S-E-S.
There is a lack of responsibility by blaming this unhappiness
and this dread on others. It is much easier to assign
the blame outward than inward. And so, voila, the Devil is
there poking his three-tined prong and urging others to do
that which they would not normally do. "Who, me? No, the
Devil made me do it." This is heard through the centuries.
This is what is meant by "excuses." This is "evil."
D: We were thinking that evil was definitely a force and we
wondered where it came from.
S: It came from the imagination. It was conjured and so roams
the world devouring innocent babes, debauching, raping,
pillaging. This is evil incarnate. The excuse is to hide from
responsibility.
D: Then it comes from the mind of the persons?
S: That is correct. It comes from the inner desires of the people
and not from some outside force, for there is no such entity
roaming the universe. There is simply a lack of responsibility
on those who wish to assign the Devil his blame.
D: Well, with so many people believing that there is evil and
there is the Devil ...
S: Then there is the Devil.
D: Is it possible that by believing it, people can create some
kind of a thought form?
S: They cannot create an entity, for only God can do that. They
can create situations which seem to prove their existence.
They set up the events which prove to themselves the
validity of that which they want to believe. This is true not
only in "evil" experiences, but in good and "holy" experiences
also - that which you believe pre - programs your experience.
Believe what you want and that is what you will find.
Sorry, much more info in the book... (http://www.dolorescannon.com/index.php?page=view-book&book_id=16)
johnf
16th February 2013, 21:20
Can anyone tell me what the date of the lecture in the first video was?
baddbob
16th February 2013, 21:39
Can anyone tell me what the date of the lecture in the first video was?
Published on Dec 11, 2012
Dolores Cannon is experiencing an evolution in her work as a hypnotherapist. Her clients (who are coming from all over the world) are no longer experiencing regressions into past lives. They are returning to the Source (God) to explain why they are living here in the world now
johnf
16th February 2013, 21:45
Can anyone tell me what the date of the lecture in the first video was?
Published on Dec 11, 2012
Dolores Cannon is experiencing an evolution in her work as a hypnotherapist. Her clients (who are coming from all over the world) are no longer experiencing regressions into past lives. They are returning to the Source (God) to explain why they are living here in the world now
Thanks Bob, I was hoping to find out how close to now the actual lecture was, if the publishing date is the best available, I gotta work with that.
truthseekerdan
16th February 2013, 22:13
Can anyone tell me what the date of the lecture in the first video was?
Published on Dec 11, 2012
Dolores Cannon is experiencing an evolution in her work as a hypnotherapist. Her clients (who are coming from all over the world) are no longer experiencing regressions into past lives. They are returning to the Source (God) to explain why they are living here in the world now
Thanks Bob, I was hoping to find out how close to now the actual lecture was, if the publishing date is the best available, I gotta work with that.
The lecture is from 2007, possible held in the month of December...
Hope this helps :-D
johnf
16th February 2013, 22:16
Can anyone tell me what the date of the lecture in the first video was?
Published on Dec 11, 2012
Dolores Cannon is experiencing an evolution in her work as a hypnotherapist. Her clients (who are coming from all over the world) are no longer experiencing regressions into past lives. They are returning to the Source (God) to explain why they are living here in the world now
Thanks Bob, I was hoping to find out how close to now the actual lecture was, if the publishing date is the best available, I gotta work with that.
The lecture is from 2007, possible held in the month of December...
Hope this helps :-D
Wow, thanks Dan, that's a while ago.
greybeard
16th February 2013, 22:27
The challenge is that a posting date of any video can bear little relationship to the actual date it was made.
Dolores is consistent in what she puts across.
Dan has been promoting Dolores for a long time.
Chris
Kiforall
16th February 2013, 23:36
After watching the video one particular issue came to me.
If our souls are reincarnating as a karmic learning experience and we come back to progress in areas still needing attention, there being no way out of this cycle, how can people believe that by releasing the karmic influences in this life they will move into the New Earth, where she describe immortality with no reincarnations. It seemed like D was trying to say that people could do what the soul group does when you die, here now without the need to have counsel when you die.
Don't know if I'm making sense but I understand that we can forgive, love etc in this life but that doesn't excuse you of karma, unless you have led a completely pure exsistence.
The problem on this old Earth at the moment is that so many people are so far removed from source it makes it bloody difficult for anyone to have a decent learning experience down here with all the manipulation
starting as soon as you pop out.
What I can understand in a New Earth idea is that Source makes a new school exactly in line with this one but without the MAJOR bullies. There would still be enough karmic learning experiences living in an environment that has freedom without the manipulation. Is it becoming nigh impossible for the older souls to progress here at the moment.
I had a vision last night in line with the universe expanding, in that the energy from source is expanding to the point that source can no longer influence/interact with energy so far removed from it.
It relies on attraction from a middle energy, sort of people who are half way there to attract others into an area that it can once again interact with.
This would be a job in itself for souls to volunteer to come back to old Earth to shepherd the lost souls back to source, do we need another place for others to progress with their own life lessons. But if the universe is so vast why is there not somewhere that fits that bill now. Why would a New Earth be needed?
My son remembers looking at the choices he had before he came down here, I know that experience is true. He knows what he had to work on and why he chose our family. So I've got the afterdeath/between lives situation backed up as far as I'm concerned. I just can't get my head round the New Earth senario.
greybeard
17th February 2013, 00:19
Hi Kiforall
I camt answer your valid questions from the path of Dolores as my bag is traditional enlightenment.
What the sages say is that because of the heavy density of this planet it is difficult to become enlightened but this is changing.
Its all down to energy and personal vibration.
It would seem that more and more people through Kundalini awakening and other processes are having their bodies modified to accept a higher vibration--without that the highest level of enlightenment would fry the plasma of the body.
One of my teachers said that we are about to see a new earth, not because it changes but because we have a change of perception.
Nothing is as we see it or think it to be---every atom is only .5% solid-- so we see what we see and that spectrum can change in a moment.
The earth actually becoming two is possible as its a fact that cells divide---same process.
Basically ego has to go --it could be said that the ego is the container of Karma.
Its a massive subject yet what we need to do if we are serious about making spiritual progress is simple.
Dan reminded us Jesus said it--"Love your fellow man as yourself."
In terms of unity consciousness the other is your very own Self.
Chris
Charlie Pecos
17th February 2013, 01:00
Wow, what a treat to come on here and read this discussion. Truly invigorating!
The hardest thing to do in life, IMHO, is to look at ones self and be completely honest about ones shortcomings, accept responsibility for ones choices, and then DO something about them. We all bear responsibility for things being the way they are on this planet. We also have the power to change them.
Ok, going out to find Dolores Cannon books, Good Day all.
hangel
17th February 2013, 21:28
The "Convoluted" series left me with headaches but the information is important and definitely stands the test of time. I am currently reading Dr. Karla Turner's books, and although they are set in a different tone, it's amazing what correlations can be drawn between these coherent and well-written researchers.
Thats right BlueGem.
You caught the essence of my problem.
How much i love grandma Dolores! she is just so kind and loving and positive. There is something in my head since i read 'the Keepers of the Garden'. The entity that incarnated as Phil tell her that there was some event in the Earths history. Some spoiling of the original plan of 12 strand DNA for humans etc. She also touches into that in 'the Three Waves..' when mentioned energy rocks and Lemuria continent disaster. The shaman soul there says that somebody messed up with the grid energies and whole massive continent where 12 strand people lived went under the pacific plate. Interesting way the shaman soul describes this doing as a result of visit of the entities that didnt come from the light, didnt care about what happened to the people in Lemuria. Earth needed to heal after these entities interfered with the grid.. interestingly when they caused the damage they left.
Now,
What entities didnt come from the light? so is there another source of creation? the light Source that all Love come from and another source of... well, darkness?
Dolores touches on Atlantis and reason of its disaster, by the way, in full agreement with what Edgar Cacye said to happened there.
One of best things Dolores describes is nature of the imprints
However, the black box technology and recycling of the souls in Dolores' books are stripped of any negativity. Dr Karla Turner shows a bit different point of view on this matter.
One question doesnt leave me:
Why would the good aliens 'abduct' the humans to do all these tests on them if they are the co-creators that seeded the planet in first place and looked after us since the beginning. Surely the good aliens would be in such state of self-development and understanding that it would be unnecessary to make a physical contact to examine the body, their knowledge on molecular level will be enough to recreate a human egg or a sperm without harvesting them from abducted and frighted humans.
Maybe THESE aliens that need to examine us did not co-create us, but want us to become a genetic material in their own experiment? Sort of choosing best sheep to create a new flock. All that is left of it at the end is a mutton roast.
The answers for questions depends on who you ask. How can we determine who are we talking to using hypnotherapy? Is it possible that the conciousness of a reptile or archon is answering?
no matter what i read it always create more and more questions in my head...
truthseekerdan
17th February 2013, 22:13
...
Now,
What entities didnt come from the light? so is there another source of creation? the light Source that all Love come from and another source of... well, darkness?
...
Dear hangel,
The answers to many questions one might have about this topic(s) are explained in the book by the name "Between Death and Life". See also, post #29 above. Hope this helps.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55780-Dolores-Cannon-Presents-Moving-into-the-New-Earth&p=636722&viewfull=1#post636722
Love & blessings
:-D
The Truth Is In There
18th February 2013, 09:56
@ tonius: it's the state of mind that matters, even in the face of "negative" experiences. some people chose harder lives than others, including abductions and whatnot, and it's true that for them "negativity" is very real, but the important thing is not to break down under these negative attacks. you can look into the abyss but you shouldn't become the abyss yourself.
if bad things happen to you and you retaliate you enter a downward spiral, into more "negativity", because like attracts like. if, on the other hand, you try to keep a positive mind set, as hard as that may be (admittedly, close to impossible in some cases) in the face of whatever "negative" happens to you, then you work out karma, get rid of the "negativity" that holds you back and which attracts more "negativity" to you. and little by little the burden gets lighter and the "negativity" you're dealt diminishes. maybe all that sounds like psychobabble to you but it's what i know to be true.
baddbob
18th February 2013, 16:48
@ tonius: it's the state of mind that matters, even in the face of "negative" experiences. some people chose harder lives than others, including abductions and whatnot, and it's true that for them "negativity" is very real, but the important thing is not to break down under these negative attacks. you can look into the abyss but you shouldn't become the abyss yourself.
if bad things happen to you and you retaliate you enter a downward spiral, into more "negativity", because like attracts like. if, on the other hand, you try to keep a positive mind set, as hard as that may be (admittedly, close to impossible in some cases) in the face of whatever "negative" happens to you, then you work out karma, get rid of the "negativity" that holds you back and which attracts more "negativity" to you. and little by little the burden gets lighter and the "negativity" you're dealt diminishes. maybe all that sounds like psychobabble to you but it's what i know to be true.
Very well put. I see that happening in my life the more negitive Iam towards something the more negitive it becomes and when I apply just a little positive the situation becomes more positive.
Joe Akulis
18th February 2013, 21:36
Great thread. This is one of my favorite subjects.
There's something you want to keep in mind while reading all these books from hypnotherapists. And it is illustrated by something someone posted earlier, "The answers for questions depends on who you ask." Let me try to explain. Maybe it'll help, maybe it won't.
Another topic closely related to this subject of hypnotherapy is the Near Death Experience. It too has a good pile of experts and researchers now who all have their websites and books. You can also look into people who have the ability to access the Akashic Records, like Edgar Cayce. They too can offer a ton of insight into the human school here on Earth. How it's structured, what the "Universal" laws seem to be.
After chewing this stuff up, I have come to understand a number of things that all pertain to these kinds of interactions with the afterlife. When you have an NDE, you are interacting with the afterlife. (Or the beforelife, if you will. Or the spirit world, however you wish to label it.) When you access someone's higher self in a hypnotherapy session, you are interacting with the world of spirit. And in all of these kinds of situations, one theme seems very prevalent: What you receive is a combination of what you expect, and what you need. And one trap hypnotherapists fall into most often is that of the lawyer in the courtroom who gets objected to for asking "leading questions." If you ask a question about the New Earth, it implies that the questioner already has some beliefs about that particular topic. So a portion of any answer you get about the topic is going be laced with things that the questioner might expect. Ask a channeled entity, or a "higher self", or a past life persona, "How were the pyramids created?" Or, "How did Atlantis get destroyed?"
You rarely get the same answer twice. Why? Because the entity that you are communicating with is operating under a protective protocol of non-infringement. Astral travelers who do "retrievals" can tell you all about this. GREAT effort is often put forth in dealing with individuals at the time of their death and passing to ensure that the interactions with them, no matter what kind of trouble or confusion they are in, do not infringe too greatly on a person's currently held beliefs. Part of the reason has to do with the fact that people won't even respond to something that they don't subscribe to. Like the person who believes that any entity at all in the afterlife is probably a demon in disguise trying to trick you into following them to a bad place. Those retrievals can be a pain in the butt. This protective protocol is managed by that individual's higher self because that's them sitting there needing help but not wanting to even consider something that they don't currently believe. That's the "what you expect" aspect of these kinds of interactions. And you see it in lots of Dolores' and others' work, they will follow a leading question in a way that suits that protocol, and feed you more material thinking that way of handling things is still appropriate. The people reading the book might be thinking, "Stop giving us half truths and hit us between the eyes!" But the higher self in play at any given time is most concerned with the growth of the person in the trance, not yours.
The other aspect of all this is, "getting what you need." This is illustrated by an NDE case I once read of a man who died two times. In both experiences he was in the void, and saw the tunnel of light. But his current beliefs had him in a state where he knew that tunnel would lead him to heaven and to God, but he seriously questioned his worthiness. As soon as the question of his worthiness entered into his mind, the tunnel went away. (This the the "what you expect" part.) That was pretty scary, but he was soon resuscitated right after this. He's had lots of time to get over the scariness of the experiences and to think more about what happened. In a forum post on an NDE studies site, he said he believed that it was important for a person not to doubt their worth so much, and to know in their hearts that they are never so unworthy that they can't enter that tunnel. This is the perfect example of the "what you need" aspect.
Most of us who study enough of this material now understand that the tunnel of light is a corridor leading through the closer layers of consciousness, or the nearer more earthbound planes, and outward to the more peaceful territories. There are lots of belief system territories in between there where we've been getting caught up over and over. Places where ghosts don't leave because they have reasons not to. Places where people are dead but don't realize it. Places where there are a myraid of different flavors of hell, all depending on how many people believe in a particular style of hell. Same goes with heavens. There's places where all kinds of vices are indulged to all kinds of twisted extents, all places where people can get drawn to and get hung up. The tunnel of light gets you safely though most of that, if you understand it, and what it leads to. This person's higher self used his two NDE's to help alter his beliefs enough before his real eventual death to help mature his beliefs enough that he will hopefully be safe on his path after he dies now. He got enough of what he needed in the context of his current beliefs to help him. This is the same over and over for a lot of this material.
What makes it so darned frustrating when actually communicating with these entities is, they always have to act like the end all-be all authority on every answer. Post #29 in this thread illustrates this to us perfectly. This entity doing the talking speaks in a way that makes it sound like there is no other truth, it is giving us the pure truth. It knows it all and is a total authority on the matter. So people who read the books, they put down one book thinking they now understand how the pyramids where built and why, then they go off and read The Law of One and this super authoritative entity is saying something completely different. I believe that by our act of seeking the answers from them, we are kinda putting them into an assumed position of authority. Kind of like, we expect that they have all the answers, so they are giving us what we expect by acting they like they have them all.
My two cents. Hopefully it'll help everyone soak up these books. They are truly a gold mine, but they can have you tossing them over your shoulder once in a while when you get to your fourth answer about the destruction of atlantis. :-)
PS. Just realized that I too sound like an authority now. That's kinda like Neo telling Morpheus, "I know kung fu."
greybeard
18th February 2013, 21:58
Hi Seeker1927
A lot of truth in what you say.
Dr David Hawkins used muscle testing (kinesology) to get answers from Universal Consciousness.
He always checked that it was appropriate for the highest good before asking--then it was a yes or not yes answer to a positive statement.
He maintained that when the question was asked,/ if asked again the answer had now been affected by the first question/answer Heisenberg principal. The potential had been changed. that applies to questions about possible future events.
It was also critical which way the question was put and that there had to be a genuine desire for the truth--- not to prove im right so to speak--the person had to be impersonal, not pursuing a validation of a personal belief system..
So as said in an earlier post my bag is traditional enlightenment but I do find Dolores very positive and uplifting.
Chris
tonius
18th February 2013, 23:09
@ tonius: it's the state of mind that matters, even in the face of "negative" experiences. some people chose harder lives than others, including abductions and whatnot, and it's true that for them "negativity" is very real, but the important thing is not to break down under these negative attacks. you can look into the abyss but you shouldn't become the abyss yourself.
if bad things happen to you and you retaliate you enter a downward spiral, into more "negativity", because like attracts like. if, on the other hand, you try to keep a positive mind set, as hard as that may be (admittedly, close to impossible in some cases) in the face of whatever "negative" happens to you, then you work out karma, get rid of the "negativity" that holds you back and which attracts more "negativity" to you. and little by little the burden gets lighter and the "negativity" you're dealt diminishes. maybe all that sounds like psychobabble to you but it's what i know to be true.
What you say is right , but i would go further, saying that for me its not seeing the positive or the negative, its seeing it for what it is. And if there are thousands of people being taken without their consent , child and adults, experimented on them phisically , mentaly and spiritualy ( this last is their main reason) i cant just ignore it by closing my eyes and imaging the light. When i am light again i will behave as such, while here i have to take into account my physical, or ''fake flesh'' state, and my mental state, a bird cant pretend to be a fish and neither the opposite. While they both have the same source, the same origin point, the same unity of consiousnes as their createor,when they are in this side of the curtain, playing as fish and bird , have to deal with it.
You say they ''CHOOSE'' to have this experiences, what if they didn't. If your child is being abducted, traumatised would you still look in my eyes and tell me he chose it. Would you bet more in a supposed ''agreement'' or in the fact that something real ,and not pleasant is happening to him, or her, right now, right here. And that is as real as everything you experience every minute. And if it is truly truly his/her choice, before entering the game (life), isn't it that maybe your choice before was to help him, maybe make more question to Dolores who she whipes out totally this ''REAL'' event wich is affecting many people directly, and all of us a little less directly, and worse twists it upside down. If that lady , truly, in her holographic experience doesn't see this things, wich i doubt as we all, at some degree share the same scenario, is it right to tell people what they see as abduction, is fantasy. At least emrance silence if you can't help. Unless she begins telling me in her world there are two suns and the sky is green i think she still is here with us, just with a different agenda, which she might not even be aware of, but the voices yes..
And help is being given at the moment, by other reaserchers, different countries, and before by courageous souls like Karla Turner, people who see it for what it is, not what it might be. And their results, the testimonies of thousand of people coincide in an incredible way, but still, we accept some candy, hope, from Dolores, in exchange for our silence towards such a big event, like Et intervention and its intentions, wich the abduction part is just the tip of the iceberg .
Why do i insist in such matter ? Because i put myself in the shoes of these people, wich lives have been shaked by such events, and there is plenty of testimony, videos , reaserch, documentaries to back it up, in case you underestimate the size of it, and when you hear what happens in these abduction sessions , trust me , the same intuition that tells us to focus on the '''positive'' will change form to ''WTF''...! (sry for the expression, but given the circumstances is the least one can say).
What i have personally learned is that ignoring what is going on, in hope that it is, or becomes something else, is the real fantasy world. When we are all at the other side of the curtain, at the end of the show, i would even ''laugh'' with myself for being ''so serious'' , but for now i am not betting my ''theorical insights'', which by the way change every day, towards the real suffering of other fellow humans. An alien probe in the arse is as real as it can get, try talking about higher frequencies and better reception in that moment, first you ''get the f... out of there'', than you might quitely sit down and figure what the meaning of that experience really was.
But what Dolores proposes is for us to sit down and figure it out without taking care of that probe before , and its quite painful ''sitting down'' like that, dont you think.
The above was a meataphor (although the probe part is real, from the research available), too harsh maybe , but nothing compared to the suffering these entities are causing. Many of the abducties don't even know it, it might be you, me , anyone,
Ps: ''The Truth Is In There'', when i use the ''you'' word its just a way of making my expressing process easier, its not personaly towards you, i appreciate you intervention , just wanted to go more into the matter.
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