The E.T is standing in front of you, what do you do?

[Celine]

A question that was asked in chat channel, and i thought it was worthy of a thread...here is a sample of the answers in channel..

<SaiCO> apart from changing underwear? dunno . prolly nothing
<SaiCO> first thing though, If I would be able to tell that is ET
<silverlightning> what about "hi"
<celine> I would be frozen in the spot...i would stare...
<celine> trying to see the E.T.. clearly



Would you take picture? run? faint? jump for joy?

More and more believe that time is near...have you thought much about what it would be like?

i believe tv and movies have saturated our thoughts with possibilities..

[truthseekerdan]

I will greet them in the name of The Great Spirit, with Namaste :nod:

[Kulapops]

I would say... 'purple does definitely NOT go with green... I don't care what planet you come from!'

:)

[wynderer]

if you consider a Reptilian, a Draco, to be an ET, then i've already had that experience, & what i did was feel very interested in communicating w/him face to face while conscious & in control of my own mind/body, instead of him calling the shots

however, i did attack one of 4 tallish Greys one night w/my mind when i awakened to find them hovering over the foot of my bed -- they had been interrupting my sleep for too many nights & i was in a very bad mood -- i would have lashed out at humans doing the same to me

so basically i'd say, i did & would treat ETs as i do humans, i.e., dependent on them as individuals & the circumstances

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I will greet them in the name of The Great Spirit, with Namaste :nod:

& then they might greet you also as they hustled you off to Dulce

[morguana]

just what i always say to beings that pop up now and again.......'can you knock next time? this whole just appearing is very rude, around these parts we knock on the front door and wait....'
only sometimes i do realise that the front door thing is not always in their lonely planet travel books.

seriously tho, i tend to just ignore them untill they indroduce themselves to me

and kula purple goes very well with green, it does not however go with orange imho

[Celine]

I would say... 'purple does definitely NOT go with green... I don't care what planet you come from!'

:)

I kinda like the mix..hehe

http://seamslikereality.com/images/Fractals/purple%20and%20green%20vortice.jpg

[Kulapops]

Erm...

http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/33710.jpg?zm=250,250,1,0,0

no... Morguana...

and ...

erm..

http://static.fancydress.com/resources/ecommerce/images/products/487/79/img79487/product-enlarged.jpg

No...

I think blue-green a little more subtle for today's aliens... :)

[truthseekerdan]

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& then they might greet you also as they hustled you off to Dulce

Maybe you should know a few hidden truths about abductions...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMKjiOdyM3Y&feature=player_embedded

[wynderer]

Maybe you should know a few hidden truths about abductions...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMKjiOdyM3Y&feature=player_embedded

maybe you should know a hidden truth about Mr Greer -- a clue: look closely at very early photos of him, when he first came on the UFO scene, & compare/contrast them w/recent ones

[truthseekerdan]

maybe you should know a hidden truth about Mr Greer -- a clue: look closely at very early photos of him, when he first came on the UFO scene, & compare/contrast them w/recent ones

I don't think Barry (Spirit Wolf), would agree with what you mentioned here... makes me think otherwise about you...;)

[Eric J (Viking)]

"Howdy dude...give me five!!"

viking

[Celine]

Most views on "meeting an ET" seem to be negative...Nice to see some positive outlooks

[morguana]

not all beings are soul sucking whatsits some seem ok, many could be deemed rather nice, just depends on who they are.
as with all life they are all apart of the spectrum

[wynderer]

I don't think Barry (Spirit Wolf), would agree with what you mentioned here... makes me think otherwise about you...;)

what an odd response -- are your opinions formed by adhering to Barry's? you are free to have any opinion you want to about me, or to change it at will --

[RedeZra]

if it came to conversation I would at one point out of the blue sigh n say 'Christ what's this stench' just to observe the reaction if any at all

if I then spot a pearl of sweat some twitching or downright shaking I must assume that this is an ED pretending to be an ET

since I'm not into chit-chatting with beings that pee their pants when mentioning Christ I will shout His Name out of my lungs til it evaporates in smokes of sulphur

if this was a scout then I've just saved the day n probably the whole world


I'm not above applause not even self-applause :first:

[wynderer]

if it came to conversation I would at one point out of the blue sigh n say 'Christ what's this stench' just to observe the reaction if any at all

if I then spot a pearl of sweat some twitching or downright shaking I must assume that this is an ED pretending to be an ET

since I'm not into chit-chatting with beings that pee their pants when mentioning Christ I will shout His Name out of my lungs til it evaporates in smokes of sulphur

if this was a scout then I've just saved the day n probably the whole world


I'm not above applause not even self-applause :first:

thanks for reminding me again, RedeZra, about the Name of Christ as a test for spiritual intentions/origins , especially of uninvited beings -- as i already wrote you, His Name blasts away those of ill intent

[here we are, being 'negative' again]

[frank samuel]

Well if he was a reptilian slobbering all over himself as he looks at me, thinking ,I make a fine cuisine, I would probably say, "hey Rep you ever heard of chicken? My threat at the local bar and Grill !!! ".:party:

[RedeZra]

thanks for reminding me again, RedeZra, about the Name of Christ as a test for spiritual intentions/origins , especially of uninvited beings -- as i already wrote you, His Name blasts away those of ill intent


yes so many can witness n testify about this

we know it because of direct experience


I do believe this ET hype is actually an attempt to camouflage their real nature n origin


---

didn't Dr Greer fight the Hulk in his last movie ?

[truthseekerdan]

not all beings are soul sucking whatsits some seem ok, many could be deemed rather nice, just depends on who they are.
as with all life they are all apart of the spectrum

Hey morguana, in your avatar are you looking at just one or more...:eek: :lol:

[Celine]

Well if he was a reptilian slobbering all over himself as he looks at me, thinking ,I make a fine cuisine, I would probably say, "hey Rep you ever heard of chicken? My threat at the local bar and Grill !!! ".:party:


Nice Freudian slip friend ;)

[Fredkc]

Dan, Kula;
You are arguing color/fashion sense with a true ET, and fail to notice.

If you look at her pic, you'll see that Morgs is ... well... she is a RedHead!!

Nothing that looks good on them, looks good on anyone else!
And vice versa.

Be polite. Be passionate, but ... fashion is always a complete disconnect. ;)

Fred

(Luv ya, Morgs)

[morguana]

:p luv to you fred, little does anyone know that under this skin is a green and purple being ;)
i just wear this skin to fool humans.........

[Fredkc]

If I've learned one thing on this planet worth sharing it's this:

"Women is tricky." - Fred

[Dale]

not all beings are soul sucking whatsits some seem ok, many could be deemed rather nice, just depends on who they are.
as with all life they are all apart of the spectrum

Quite right! There are plenty of "good guys" out there; but at the same time, we can't forget about the regressive groups that are just as real.

Although I'm a bit hesitant to talk about it, I've had my fair share of ET experiences; mostly with the "good guys."

So, back to the question:

If I were, say, at my desk reading, and suddenly looked up to see an ET; I'd first analyze how I feel in the presence of this "being."

Generally speaking, when you're in the company of a benevolent ET, you'll feel "respected," for lack of a better term. If, however, I wasn't feeling "respected;" well, I'd certainly have to keep this "being" from gaining any power over my own being. The best way to do that is keep absolute control over yourself and your reactions; maybe send a prayer to the good man from Galilee, or maybe visualize the "being" as an aspect of your own self, and accept it as that.

Either way, the key in this situation is to keep the control in your own hands, as opposed to the "being's."

Back to option one; if the feeling of "respect" is there, and your intuition tells you that the being isn't out to spook you, well, you'd better think of a few good questions to ask it :p

[Celine]

What would you ask?

[Snowbird]

just what i always say to beings that pop up now and again.......'can you knock next time? this whole just appearing is very rude, around these parts we knock on the front door and wait....'
only sometimes i do realise that the front door thing is not always in their lonely planet travel books.

seriously tho, i tend to just ignore them untill they indroduce themselves to me

and kula purple goes very well with green, it does not however go with orange imho

IMO, Morguana has the solution.

However, I go one step further. While in meditation, which can be throughout the day, I purposefully set up a type of barrier that essentially states, please do not invade my space unless invited. Those who are in my soul group, more or less have freedom to "visit" me but not invade. And even these, have rules and guidelines set up by me for them. They don't have total freedom.

We do have choice, but we have to exercise our right to set up boundaries.

That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it. :director:

[frank samuel]

Nice Freudian slip friend ;)

Celine glad I was not writing about Halloween, trick oh threat !!!:croc:

[Carmody]

I'm still looking for the Gary Larson single frame comic shot to post, where the Farmer dooms mankind to extinction - by reaching out and shaking one of the small aliens he meets...to near pieces.... as the alien looked like an animated gloved hand.

[apollo41]

i would give it some hung kung phooey,,,, click my heels together like dorothy does in the wizard of oz movie,,,
ask the enterprise for help (scotty get me the f--k outa here)
if no satisfactory response from ET??
i would show it a picture of my mother inlaw!! that should do the trick!! it will be in agonising pain for days,, ha ha

[freespirit]

nothing to begin with, once the fear had subsided I'd wait for 'it' to make the first move

[Beth]

Treat em to a repertoire of choice words, but I do that to anyone that startles me :p

[rhythm]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/2975202083_16710a035b.jpg?v=0
have you got a big one:alien:

[Moemers]

Is wynderer saying Steven Greer has been replaced?

[Fredkc]

and kula purple goes very well with green, it does not however go with orange imho
Morgs, ya know I luvs ya. and yer SO fun to argue with. (s'pecially when it's off-topic ;) )
But lemme show ya sumpin' purdy...


http://fredsitelive.com/images/post/purpornge.jpg

See? That didn't hurt, did it?

Fred

[morguana]

Very pretty fred, ok purple goes with orange too, my guess it goes with all colours :)

back to topic, I have enjoyed very much folks posts, like the image of yaya reading the dictonary to them
love
m
extra kiss for fred ;)

[Fredkc]

ok, back. (and on topic, for once)

If they're going to be so blatant as to just stand there in front of me, then I have a few questions.

1. who was the crew I woke up to, one night, during what they called a "re-wiring"?

2. What was I re-wired for? And why?

3. Am I the same guy who landed in this body at birth? Or was there an "adjustment" when this body was two years old?

The answers to those three, would at least let me know if this is a new kind visiting, or if they're the same folk I've dealt with before. Most everything else would depend on how that played out.

Fred

[Lefty Dave]

I'd tell him/her RUN FOR YOUR LIFE ......and I'd do the same !!!!

[truthseekerdan]

Most views on "meeting an ET" seem to be negative...Nice to see some positive outlooks

Celine, if one is in a negative state (of mind) they (the real ET's) will probably not even going to make themselves visible to that person, since they have to lower their vibration too much to be seen, and probably scare that person to death...:eek:

[wynderer]

Celine, if one is in a negative state (of mind) they (the real ET's) will probably not even going to make themselves visible to that person, since they have to lower their vibration too much to be seen, and probably scare that person to death...:eek:

so --who are 'the real ETs' ??? -- i'm sure many here would like to know

[truthseekerdan]

so --who are 'the real ETs' ??? -- i'm sure many here would like to know

The ones that are not born or cloned on this planet (Earth)... :rolleyes::lalala:

[wynderer]

The ones that are not born or cloned on this planet (Earth)... :rolleyes::lalala:

have you met any? not those speaking thru channels, but face to face? in 3D or [less prove-able] 4D?

[Chakra]

A question that was asked in chat channel, and i thought it was worthy of a thread...here is a sample of the answers in channel..

<SaiCO> apart from changing underwear? dunno . prolly nothing
<SaiCO> first thing though, If I would be able to tell that is ET
<silverlightning> what about "hi"
<celine> I would be frozen in the spot...i would stare...
<celine> trying to see the E.T.. clearly
Would you take picture? run? faint? jump for joy?
More and more believe that time is near...have you thought much about what it would be like?
i believe tv and movies have saturated our thoughts with possibilities..

Depending - if is a clone - piss off and bring your ancestor to talk to me.

Other wise my reaction would be -

What the h*ll do you think your doing here? (like in front of me and on this planet)
and Don't even try and mess with that fake love cr@p on me....

Are you going to be - from this point on - for Us or against Us!
Are you going to fix all the cr*p you made here? like now!
Are you going to return all the 'light' you have stolen from us and Terra?
Are you going to come clean with all your human/hybrid clones? All those that you have been manipulating in the new age movement for decades now?
Are you going to come clean about why you are actually here?

I am sort of really heavy in to having the truth.

Cheers :)

[Tigger]

If ET landed in front of me I'd point and laugh...
"You look funny!" :lol: :photo:

[Decibellistics]

I would initiate communication.

[wynderer]

I would initiate communication.

assuming they want communication from you & not something else

[Celine]

Why do you assume the worse wyn?

They (PA members )are just sharring what they feel would be theire own, personal, reaction.


Is it your belief that any and all encounters would have a negative slant?

[Agape]

ET is going to have tough times here obviously :photo:

[wynderer]

ET is going to have tough times here obviously :photo:

some ET are already here, giving humans tough time

[Celine]

Yes...some..but not ALL

[wynderer]

Yes...some..but not ALL

i never said all -- can't you understand that i can visualize w/some of the posters who answer -- it's like some of the Original Peoples of the Americas greeting their 'White Brothers' w/open arms -- some of those tribes are wiped out now, & died in some gruesome ways -- & none of the tribes are doing so hot these days

i suppose if we'd lived back then , & i told you all, 'These white dudes -- be careful -- they may not be so great' -- probably you & others would have told me i was being negative, & i should hold them in the Light & have only positive thoughts about them

[Agape]

Well, I understand , you and me don't want army in between but see ..people are scared..and ET too get scared of all those scared people ..
ET should be wise and run away ..


:yes4:

[Celine]

No that is not what i would say...

I do not see the world ..the aliens... or anyone..as ALL positive...

But i dont see them as all negative either.

i see the world very balanced i

If an ET stood infront of me, i would be treating them like any other being i meet..


Theire are some positive stories about the natives and the europeans mixing.. but they are overshadowed by the negatives

Its like Africa... how much negatives to you hear about that continent?

yet in the refugee camps, there are love stories .. there are miracles.. there is hapiness...there is joy..

But youll never hear about it because all they want you to feel, hear is the negatives.

And when it comes to ET's.. i am tired of the negatives... and wish to find positives, as i am sure they exist and we are just bombarded with all the negative stories, for other reasons..

[wynderer]

Well, I understand , you and me don't want army in between but see ..people are scared..and ET too get scared of all those scared people ..
ET should be wise and run away ..


:yes4:

the wise ones already ran away if they could, or never came here in the first place -- the controlling ones enjoy it here & are not going away --

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Have not read every post here, title caught my eye. I'm curious, you have among you those whom have stated they are ET, OPI, whatever term you care to use, so, begs the question, how are YOU viewing this/those beings? right now?

[Celine]

As beings...nothing more nothing less.

i feel love for the ones open to it..

The ones who stay in the dark.. i do not fear...but i will not engage either.

It is funny you said that Barry, because when i asked the question , originally in channel, i had an image of meeting Agape, in my mind

Probably the first positive experience with an ET i have come across that is worth ...engaging.

[Wood]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzPBUGUM7KQ

(just joking)
It depends on the ET, the vibes, the situation...

[Agape]

Thank you dear Ceiline , the pleasure would be on my side.

Woody:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSoMoZFpnXA&feature=player_embedded

Forgot to say congratulations to Fred for his big promotion to the Light Blue Administrative Post.

Fred, you've passed all my tests. Others as well.

:love:

[Humble Janitor]

To answer Celine's question, it depends on my state of mind at the moment. If my mind is clear and I am calm, I may be inclined to face such a being. I would try and see if I could communicate telepathically with the being. If my mind was full of fear, I'd run.

[Carmody]

I've read more than one report on meeting Grey types and the experience from those seems to indicate that the meetings can be a bit traumatic. Not because of the idea of harm being intended but..according to the human system, an alien is exactly that. Not just mildly alien but totally alien. And one's body is going to react to the presence of someone or something that is truly and totally alien to the flesh's experience and baser origins. One was about a military officer meeting an alien. The officer was very much prepared, over days and more.. to meet this given alien (to receive a mental transfer) and was originally told that many people passed out ran away, etc. He said that when the alien neared...his knees and legs began to shake uncontrollably, to the point he nearly fell over and it took all of his willpower to will his body to remain in the spot. The adrenaline in his system was off the charts.

[wynderer]

I've read more than one report on meeting Grey types and the experience from those seems to indicate that the meetings can be a bit traumatic. Not because of the idea of harm being intended but..according to the human system, an alien is exactly that. Not just mildly alien but totally alien. And one's body is going to react to the presence of someone or something that is truly and totally alien to the flesh's experience and baser origins. One was about a military officer meeting an alien. The officer was very much prepared, over days and more.. to meet this given alien (to receive a mental transfer) and was originally told that many people passed out ran away, etc. He said that when the alien neared...his knees and legs began to shake uncontrollably, to the point he nearly fell over and it took all of his willpower to will his body to remain in the spot. The adrenaline in his system was off the charts.

well, i've met both greys & a reptilian, a Draco, face to face, & did not freak out -- also have met human/grey clones & human/rep hybrids & did not freak those times either --- & i doubt that most humans would -- there's stories of other military guys on various bases meeting ETs, & they don't turn to jelly inside

this story you read/posted, Carmody -- that's part of the lies of the NWO, imo -- like they're always saying : 'the poor stupid humans will "panic" if they learn there are other communicating conscious beings in the galaxy /universe' -- how stupid do they think humans are? & how many humans do they actually talk to? -- it's just one of lies they tell to justify their secrecy --'Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue'

i DO talk to people -- most seem to have a healthy interest/curiosity in the idea of ETs, & most have said that they'd like to meet one -- imo, the humans i've talked to are TOO trusting, TOO willing to believe that ETs will be fun to meet

& if humans get scared when they are being abducted -- that's a good healthy response -- suppose you woke up & there were a bunch of other humans in your bedroom, who paralyze your body & take you away & spread-eagle you on a cold metal table & do nasty things to your body -- you'd be nuts if you DIDN'T feel some fear --especially if you are a child [tho anger is a much more empowering response, whenever one's boundaries/free will are being violated]

[Fredkc]

Thank you dear Ceiline , the pleasure would be on my side.

Forgot to say congratulations to Fred for his big promotion to the Light Blue Administrative Post.
Fred, you've passed all my tests. Others as well.
:love:
Agape;
Thank you so much. Still plain ol' me. Silly one minute, serious the next.

Still feel like I "stole it" and that any minute someone is going to catch on.
or like the Wizard Of Oz...
"Pay no attention to the man behind the blue curtain!" ;)
Fred

[Victoria Tintagel]

Hi there, Avalonians! This is a nice (start of a) thread! LOL. When I listened to Alex Collier on the Reptilian Races You Tube video presentation, he mentioned a greeting "It is a matter of custom, when entering my space, that permission be asked" Actually recommended it highly. It's protocol among ET races, he says, according to the Andromedans. Some of them consider themselves superior to human beings, which is not difficult at all :) from the viewpoint of the MIND and when you don't have a compassionate heart under the scales.
Picture this for a while......huhhh?

I think Alex Collier is excellent in explaining the difference in consciousness and ethics between THEM and US, in general :) I don't want us to hide our heads like austriches, as we humans are and can be brutal and disrespectful as HELL. But that's not the point, sorry! Alex Collier explains, with drive and integrity, how we can become at ease in sharing the same space with ET's and this isn't anything outside ourselves. It's overcoming our own fears, entering unconditional love. I remember a woman, who witnessed an abduction by reptilian ET's and while she was terrified, seeing one of them carrying her girlfriend away, she yelled "Stop" The ET stopped and looked at her ..... She went to it, entered her heart in love and said "I am going to love you" The "Creature" dropped the girlfriend and ran away......isn't that great humor and fun? We have one very special card to play.....up in our sleeves...I believe....no need to worry at all.
Life is a game, have fun! Tint.

[jaybee]

What would you ask?


Shall we make babies together...?


lol


Whoops..I'm a TINY bit too old for that...unless I 'do' an Elizabeth (John the Baptist's Mom)

And anyway....suppose I'm a few thousand years too late...as well

Like....been there, done that, seen the film, got the teashirt....:eek: :p

[Agape]

Agape;
Thank you so much. Still plain ol' me. Silly one minute, serious the next.

Still feel like I "stole it" and that any minute someone is going to catch on.
or like the Wizard Of Oz...
"Pay no attention to the man behind the blue curtain!" ;)
Fred

Behind the curtain, there's Jaguar. There's a jaguar behind every curtain..:becky:


But since you're here ..we will be scared a bit less..


:hug:

[wynderer]

Hi there, Avalonians! This is a nice (start of a) thread! LOL. When I listened to Alex Collier on the Reptilian Races You Tube video presentation, he mentioned a greeting "It is a matter of custom, when entering my space, that permission be asked" Actually recommended it highly. It's protocol among ET races, he says, according to the Andromedans. Some of them consider themselves superior to human beings, which is not difficult at all :) from the viewpoint of the MIND and when you don't have a compassionate heart under the scales.
Picture this for a while......huhhh?

I think Alex Collier is excellent in explaining the difference in consciousness and ethics between THEM and US, in general :) I don't want us to hide our heads like austriches, as we humans are and can be brutal and disrespectful as HELL. But that's not the point, sorry! Alex Collier explains, with drive and integrity, how we can become at ease in sharing the same space with ET's and this isn't anything outside ourselves. It's overcoming our own fears, entering unconditional love. I remember a woman, who witnessed an abduction by reptilian ET's and while she was terrified, seeing one of them carrying her girlfriend away, she yelled "Stop" The ET stopped and looked at her ..... She went to it, entered her heart in love and said "I am going to love you" The "Creature" dropped the girlfriend and ran away......isn't that great humor and fun? We have one very special card to play.....up in our sleeves...I believe....no need to worry at all.
Life is a game, have fun! Tint.

but Tint -- what about the little children who have died in wars, camps, satanic tortures/killings, etc, etc --millions upon millions -- more likely billions thru this round of history -- innocent little children, some of them babies, knowing nothing but love --

this did not protect them --

if we were all meant to be in the pure Love dimension, we'd be there -- 3D/4D Earth is NOT a pure Love place, as you might have noticed -- what so many of you call 'fear' & fearfully try to avoid feeling at all costs , i call 'survival instinct alert' --

Unconditional Love includes love for oneself -- alas, here on 3D/4D Earth, there are mean men w/big guns & nasty entities in other dimensions who are not playing the love game --& alas again, it looks as if all in human bodies are going to have to deal w/these non-loving beings pretty soon -- it's the New WORLD Order, remember -- there's no place to run anymore

i'm all for choosing Love as the answer, but if your real reason for choosing Love is a secret wish that you'll be spared any suffering, then i'd say you're fooling yourself, & that fear for self is your true motivation

when the tallish greys appeared hovering over the foot of my bed, probably the 3rd week in a row when they or their masters had interrupted my sleep, i reached out w/my mind & snapped off one of their arms -- they instantly disappeared & i was able to sleep unmolested the rest of that night -- i get very grouchy when i don't get enough sleep --

i am often told i am a gentle person & do not like violence of any sort -- but my conscience does not trouble me for snapping off the grey's arm -- i'm sure they grew a new one for him back at HQ --

it is WRONG to enter another being's space without permission -- what the greys & reptilians were doing to me was WRONG -- they could have approached me & said, 'Hey! we'd like to get together & have a good talk' & i've have been very happy w/this -- but they did not-- & it is my right to protect myself -- kind of honoring the gift of Life & individual consciousness that the Creator gave us all

you can be durn sure i'll protect children & babies in the same way in the future if necessary -- not let them be killed in front of me to keep my 'Unconditional Love' record spotless

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Behind the curtain, there's Jaguar. There's a jaguar behind every curtain..:becky:


But since you're here ..we will be scared a bit less..




:hug:

Agape -- you have been mentioning fear lately in your posts -- what is it you are afraid of/ if you don't mind answering, that is...

[Agape]

Agape -- you have been mentioning fear lately in your posts -- what is it you are afraid of/ if you don't mind answering, that is...

I'm not sure there's good and short answer ...but there are many answers , as many as there are fears and lies in this world .
What I fear ..does it really matter ? Does my life matter to anyone, seriously, does truth matter, does knowledge matter, out of these 'freedom forums' and new age love groups ,
does anything really matter in this world in the name of Truth ?

Does it matter who I am and what I know or am I just a number ? Do I have any rights ? Do you know better than me ?


Am I asking you these questions or are you asking me these questions or does this all equal computer game ?

Media game ? Disclosure of fears so that someone can explain us both how it really works, someone with little brain and enough money in their pocket ?

Another big boss to tell me what is the truth about ? That I can't know it all ? Because I don't have right to know that much ?







:hippie:

[wynderer]

I'm not sure there's good and short answer ...but there are many answers , as many as there are fears and lies in this world .
What I fear ..does it really matter ? Does my life matter to anyone, seriously, does truth matter, does knowledge matter, out of these 'freedom forums' and new age love groups ,
does anything really matter in this world in the name of Truth ?

Does it matter who I am and what I know or am I just a number ? Do I have any rights ? Do you know better than me ?


Am I asking you these questions or are you asking me these questions or does this all equal computer game ?

Media game ? Disclosure of fears so that someone can explain us both how it really works, someone with little brain and enough money in their pocket ?

Another big boss to tell me what is the truth about ? That I can't know it all ? Because I don't have right to know that much ?







:hippie:

yes, Agape, i think you matter & that what you feel & think matters also -- every individual matters -- as an ET here on Earth, you especially matter -- & in that context too, what you fear about humans as an ET -- that matters quite a bit

dear lady, are you depressed? suffering from 'accidie'? 'what the Greeks call accedia, which we may term spiritual weariness or distress of heart. This is akin to dejection, and is especially trying to solitaires...'

hug, wynderer

[Agape]

Yes, I should be doing something radically different than I do in life at the moment, something serious yet useful and it'd make me and everyone happy in turn, and I should also not be so long alone because it can feel damaging .
And I should be responsible to find a way through and thankful for the good and love received from others.
And should do this and that and again, what else ..

Should feel :differently, take it :easy. be :compassionate, and so on. Like everyone else does . It's not easy being part of the human experience that remembers you vaguely. People look and can not judge , those who look deeper they say we don't know you,
and others think they do yet they don't.

And I should not say that because if I do, I'm risking your ( supposedly human ) emotional integrity.

Disclosure yes or no. From whome. Even if I'm the most benevolent ET under the Sun . And who cares about my integrity.


I want to go home :hug:

[Celine]

Home is where the heart is.

*celine reaches out, lay her hand on your chest, smiles as she feels the steady beats, looks at you and says*

Your heart is right here..

[Carmody]

Shall we make babies together...?


lol


Whoops..I'm a TINY bit too old for that...unless I 'do' an Elizabeth (John the Baptist's Mom)

And anyway....suppose I'm a few thousand years too late...as well

Like....been there, done that, seen the film, got the teashirt....:eek: :p



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[jaybee]

Nice pic Carmody........:)

SHE has the look of the ETs in the Avatar film....In fact....without going off on a research thing....is this the book the film was based on?

[Carmody]

Nice pic Carmody........:)

SHE has the look of the ETs in the Avatar film....In fact....without going off on a research thing....is this the book the film was based on?

Naw...It is just that Philip Jose Farmer was one of the very first to explore the subject, in fiction, back in the 50's. Originally the book was banned for publication in some places, IIRC. Like the seminal book 'Dr. Adder' by K.W.Jeter, which preceded the works of all other CyberPunk authors by approximately 15 years. It was a violent modernization and sexualization of works as Philip K. Dick might have written. He wrote it in 1972 and it was not published until about 1984(?), as no publisher would touch it. It was, of course, enthusiastically recommended and supported by Dick.

I just found out that Dick managed to see the first 20 minutes of BladeRunner before he died. Apparently he said that the entire atmosphere was perfectly captured and was, for the larger part, what he saw in his head when he created the original works.

As for ET standing in front of us, not everyone is waiting to do the Monty Python 'Run away, Run away! (in the "holy grail" film) bit. As some authors of Sci-fi have suggested over the years.

[jaybee]

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She's got the tail and the tattoos....and the tall lythe look....like the Avatar ETs....

[Chakra]

Hi there, Avalonians! This is a nice (start of a) thread! LOL. When I listened to Alex Collier on the Reptilian Races You Tube video presentation, he mentioned a greeting "It is a matter of custom, when entering my space, that permission be asked" Actually recommended it highly. It's protocol among ET races, he says, according to the Andromedians.

Yes them - but what of the others?


Some of them consider themselves superior to human beings, which is not difficult at all :) from the viewpoint of the MIND and when you don't have a compassionate heart under the scales. Picture this for a while......huhhh?

I am not quite sure I understand correctly what you are meaning. But personally I don't think that is exactly the interpretation that Alex Collier implied, being telepathically enhanced and using that in an abusive manner, I would think is not a good sign of an enlightened alien.

The video I saw he was aware of and did not even want to discuss the horrid atrocities of Dulce <sp?> but it was briefly mentioned. It is typically those that possess humility and respect for all life forms that will treat all as they would wish to be treated. Those that consider themselves 'superior' to anyone are those that would dismiss the sovereignty of freewill given by God and feel justified in their actions. This to me just confirms their arrogance and questionable state of enlightenment - which would also be evident in any feeling of contempt they might have towards us. As Alex also mentioned WE are the ones that are looked upon by other enlightened races, as being ones with the highest of potential, we are spiritual kings and queens in our own right.

It should also be considered that since it is very possible most of the races here are genetically created by some form of reptilian alien - would it not also stand to reason that the DNA for aggressive, egotistical self serving type behavior also was inherited? Their dominant warring like behavior was passed on? Most of the people I know though may get a tad upset at times (many external issues can enhance this) they are definitely no where near kidnapping - killing or eating people to justify their anger.

There is a book The Gods Of Eden Author William Bramley here is the interviewd by Linda Moulton Howe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqXqG5WlXJs

Basically through his research he has found that mankind has been methodically killed off over the millennium. Sprays / gray mists from the air spreading the bubonic plague. Grey creatures wearing black capes carrying wands that sprayed a mist.... This would leave a huge scaring of the psyche been carried by mankind for many generations. So I am sure their are many people that have in past lives been killed off by the gray's and thinking 'why the hell should I trust them - any of them - now'? Look what 'they' have been doing to us! Using children as sex toys is no better than a pedophile - we don't have a problem seeing the harm done by a person - but an alien robot just needs us to love them? Sorry just can't go there....

Frankly I feel it is them not us - that need to prove them selves...as peace loving enlightened beings.


I think Alex Collier is excellent in explaining the difference in consciousness and ethics between THEM and US, in general :) I don't want us to hide our heads like ostriches, as we humans are and can be brutal and disrespectful as HELL.

This goes back to again the question as to the origin of our genetics' it also comes into question as to the huge damage that has been inflicted on the psyche - particularly with the fact that for many people and the repetive abductions (kidnapping, damaging - stealing the essences of a child soul) leads to the fracturing of the psyche and a disconnect with others and their future relationships.

Our present world particularly over the last 60 years has been systematically socially, morally, ethically dismantled - sex drugs, rock and roll are also not what one could call a generation of the most spiritually enlightened. (never mind the disco ball of the '70's horrors! ;)

That is why the New Age is a farce - it perpetuates a self grandiosity (I am Love, love, love and peace - translate - you should never question my motives, that will upset my view of me - I'll do as I please) ...and the resulting perpetual consumption, because their hearts are really very empty..


"But that's not the point, sorry! Alex Collier explains, with drive and integrity, how we can become at ease in sharing the same space with ET's and this isn't anything outside ourselves.

It is both, from my stand point - but in that what we have to do is stop being so damn naive - and stand up for our right to the sovereignty of our souls, and our right to exist in freedom from the whims of superior attitudes that those (genetically alien enhanced ruling elite)


It's overcoming our own fears, entering unconditional love.

Research will show that our so called fears have a very justifiable origin. Typically one does not fear the unknown it comes from a point of reference, consciously remembered or not. It remains in the 'reptilian brain' (interesting name in itself) Which is also why we learn at a young age - fire is hot and burns. [/quote]


I remember a woman, who witnessed an abduction by reptilian ET's and while she was terrified, seeing one of them carrying her girlfriend away, she yelled "Stop" The ET stopped and looked at her ..... She went to it, entered her heart in love and said "I am going to love you" The "Creature" dropped the girlfriend and ran away

If I was the alien in question here - it would have been in my observing the disconnect that would have caused me to run. Machines think in binary 0's 1's, on / off. Two things come to mind - one here I am kidnapping this ladies friend to use in my latest science project, meaning not that much more to me than an anesthetized lab rat would to a cosmetic company doing testing on the latest eye shadow. Next - she is awake! damn - missed that part - and she is running towards me saying she loves me - wth?
Crazy person alert! Runnnnnn :)


.....isn't that great humor and fun? We have one very special card to play.....up in our sleeves...I believe....no need to worry at all. Life is a game, have fun! Tint.

I agree, thou to a point - the line in drawn when the children lives are stolen, when they are abused, sexually, mentally and spiritually. When people are too afraid to see the truth - turn the other way and say oh it can't be all that bad.... it really is all that bad and it is no laughing matter... especially for the young lives that have experienced it.

Which is what many of the real 'whistle blowers' here are trying to warn us of.

[Steven]

I would initiate communication.

If I was an ET, I would choose you to communicate ;)

Namaste, Steven

[Mluck]

I would say... 'purple does definitely NOT go with green... I don't care what planet you come from!'

:)

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA to funny ;)

[Celine]

rapid breath.. blinking... am I really seeing what I am seeing??....

Take a step forward....stop.... can they see me??


Open my mouth.....speak.... H-hello..

Wait..watch...

Time stands still for a moment...

what's next?