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KiwiElf

16th February 2013, 01:14

By Alfred Lambremo... - 6 months 3 weeks ago

(Downloads & videos at Link below - KiwiElf)

http://www.ufodigest.com/article/brown-dwarf-star-flyby-estimated-maximal-earth-impact-date-june-july-2013-webbots

VANCOUVER, BC - Clif High, developer of the WebBots, has predicted June-July 2013 as a possible date for a global coastal event also predicted by Dr. Courtney Brown in 2010 Farsight Institute (Farsight.org) remote viewing experiments.

Listen to Global Coastal Event (June-July, 2013) - MP3

Download CLIF.HIGH.GLOBAL.COASTAL.EVENT.6-7.2013

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/files/clif.high.global.coastal.event.6-7.2013.mp3

According to futurist Alfred Lambremont Webre, both Clif High's Web Bots predictions and Dr. Courtney Brown's remote viewing probes of 2013 are refering to the impact of the 2013 flyby of a brown dwarf star twin to our Sun, commonly called the "Lost Star of Time and Myth", "Nibiru" or "Planet X".

Neither Clif High nor Dr. Brown mention the Nibiru flyby as a specific cause of the predicted June-July, 2013 global coastal event.

According to Webre, the flyby of the brown dwarf star Nibiru, whose estimated perihelion is 2.85 AU, may well be the cause of the 2013 global coastal event predicted (1) a 1971 DARPA chronovisor time travel probe of 2013; (a) a 2010 Farsight Institute remote viewing probe of 2013; and now (3) a 2012 prediction of a 2013 global coastal event by the WebBot that determined the estimated maximal Earth impact date of the Planet X- Nibiru Flyby to be June-July, 2013. Clif High also mentions Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot as converging with the WebBot predictions of the Nibiru flyby.

Other Nibiru experts such as Marshall Masters, a former CNN science feature producer, has forecast February 14, 2013 as the date that Planet X reaches its perihelion, with the maximal damage to Earth being done in the period between February 14 to July 14, 2013 (when Nibiru begins its transit out of our solar system).

Dwarf star hidden by chemtrails

Mr. Webre, who is Faculty member at ExoUniversity.org. contends that the U.S. government's Chemtrails program was designed with a primary (secret) intent to provide an atmospheric shield to hide from public view the approach of the possible brown dwarf twin star to our Sun in its approach to its perihelion or closest distance to our Sun at a ninety degree angle to the ecliptic, or plane of rotation of our Sun's planets.

Mr. Webre, an international war crimes judge, states, "There is evidence that the U.S. and international security state has been tracking Nibiru since at least 1983 through NASA's Infrared Astronomical Satellite (IRAS), and since 2007 through the South Pole Telescope at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station in Antarctica."

Mr. Webre continues, "Elaborate secret underground shelters and underground intercontinental transit systems exist to house financial and technocratic elites and armed/police forces during the brown dwarf star's flyby.

Webre states, "At perihelion, interactions between our Sun and this possible brown dwarf twin star may present an extreme hazard to Earth, including solar flares and electrical discharges between our Sun and the dwarf star."

At perihelion, our Sun and the brown dwarf star will possibly be separated by an estimated 2.85 AU (One AU equals 93 million miles).

1971 DARPA chronovisor time travel probe & 2010 Remote Viewing Probe of 2013

In a 2010 article about the 1971 DARPA chronovisor time travel probe and the 2010 Farsight Institute remote viewing probe of 2013, Webre wrote:

As evidence of a possible 2012-13 catastrophic timeline, researcher Dr. Courtney Brown points to the results of a recent Farsight Institute remote viewing study of global climate change 2008 – 2013. Expecting to find marginal effects of global climate change on coastal areas in 2013, Dr. Brown reports, instead remote viewers found a catastrophic 2013 timeline. The 2013 catastrophic timeline is set out in an article by Dr. Brown, and in a presentation that has been shown publicly at only three venues including the recent 2010 IIIHS.org conference in Montreal in which this reporter spoke and participated.

Viewers can view a video on Dr. Brown's presentation of the Farsight Institute study by clicking here. The video presentation, Parts 1 and 2, summarizes what the scientific results of the Farsight study are.

Only the facts presented by Dr. Brown in his July 7, 2010 IIIHS public presentation have been included in this report.

In his July 7, 2010 presentation, Dr. Brown states there are anomalies that suggest the U.S. government and elites are heavily invested in covertly preparing for the 2012-13 catastrophic timeline, while keeping the bulk of the human population in the dark. These anomalies (which are explored at length in the article below) suggest that decision-makers in the U.S. and other government and some elites have made the decision that the 2012-13 catastrophic future is the most probable future, and are feverishly completing underground facilities on Earth for the military, police, and key financial and political elites (as well as secret bases on Mars).

These anomalies are not part of the Farsight Institute report, Dr. Brown stated, and are personal observations of his own. They are, nevertheless, of extreme social interest.

The evidence that Earth has recently shifted onto a “positive, non-catastrophic timeline” is growing, however. For example, the results in the Farsight Institute’s 2008-2013 remote viewing study are skewed between a 2013 “catastrophic” timeline and a 2013 “non-catastrophic” timeline. Statistically, 39 percent of the remote viewing reports achieved a disaster score of “3” (Catastrophic), while 29% of the remote viewing reports achieved a disaster score of “0” (Non-catastrophic).

If the Farsight remote viewing study is correct, it is statistically almost as much a certainty that a positive future will occur in 2012-13 as that a Solar flare-Planet X catastrophe will occur. Dr. Brown notes that Farsight Institute remote viewers once predicted an earthquake that would flatten Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) on a specific date. Concerned about public safety, Farsight went public with that prediction. A 6.4 earthquake did occur in the LAX area, without consequent damage to the airport.

In a remarkable coincidence (or synchronicity), both the Farsight Institute and a chronovisor probe in the early 1970s by DARPA’s Project Pegasus chose archetypal targets in Washington, DC right across the street from each other. Project Pegasus chose to view the U.S. Supreme Court building in 2013 via chronovisor and Project Pegasus participant and whistleblower Andrew D. Basiago “found that the Supreme Court building was under 100 feet of stagnant water” in a chronovisor probe. The Farsight Institute targeted the U.S. Capitol building in 2013, and some remote viewer reports viewed the U.S. Capitol in ruins along side deep water (See Farsight 2013 remote viewing reports in Slide Show in article below). The chronovisor is a device that uses a screen or holographic template to locate and display scenes from the past or future in the time-space hologram. The chronovisor was originally developed by two Vatican scientists in conjunction with Enrico Fermi and later refined by DARPA scientists.

Mr. Basiago has stated that “that because the chronovisors did not identify absolute, deterministic futures but rather alternate futures in the “multi-verse,” this catastrophic vision of Washington, DC might be from an alternative time line that does not materialize on our time line.” Other Farsight remote viewers targeting the U.S. Capitol in 2013 did not see a Washington, DC devastated by natural catastrophe.

Here, then, we have the 2012-13 catastrophic and 2012-13 non-catastrophic futures side by side. DARPA’s Project Pegasus chronovisor technology for probing future events in the time-space hologram was state of the art in the early 1970s. Project Pegasus itself was under the policy oversight of Donald H. Rumsfeld as a Nixon cabinet member. It may have been that Presidential-level decisions were made in the early 1970s to commence underground shelter preparations, on the basis of Project Pegasus and other time-travel intelligence about the 2012-13 catastrophic timeline.

Extraterrestrials, Intention vortex and a safe Nibiru flyby

Webre, whose book Exopolitics founded the science of relations among intelligent civilizations in the multiverse, states there is some unverified evidence that extraterrestrial/interdimensional civilizations may be intervening to alter Nibiru's orbit and avoid planetary hazards in our solar system.

Mr. Webre stated, "It is vital that the public inform ourselves about the hazards of the flyby of this possible brown dwarf twin star, and how we can create a collective "intention vortex" that can manifest a safe brown dwarf twin star flyby for humanity and for as many of us who can become aware of its possible reality without panic and with proactive consciousness."

Recommended Reading, Viewing & Listening

Marshall Masters - "Planet X-Nibiru comes up from the South from behind and to the left of the Sun"

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2012/07/marshall-masters-planet-x-nibiru-comes-up-from-the-...

VIDEO: RECENT NIBIRU SIGHTINGS - BBC broadcasts Nibiru in a documentary 18 June 2012 must see
The BBC (UK) has inadvertently recorded Nibiru in a documentary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6ytpbs_e2Q&sns=tw

GLOBAL COASTAL EVENT: Clif High - Confirming June-July 2013 as date for global coastal event predicted by Farsight Institute (Farsight.org) remote viewing. This corresponds with impact of Planet X- Nibiru Flyby impact zone (June-July 2013)

Download CLIF.HIGH.GLOBAL.COASTAL.EVENT.6-7.2013

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/files/clif.high.global.coastal.event.6-7.2013.mp3

Video Overview: Surviving the Nibiru Flyby - (Full) 37.31

http://youtu.be/TaeyGsOi9ls

RECENT IMAGES OF NIBIRU - articles

1. Is the Nibiru System Now Observable From Above the Chemtrail Layer? by Marshall Masters

http://yowusa.com/planetx/2012/planetx-2012-05a/1.shtml

2. Nibiru System In Full Color As Seen By A Passenger On-Board A Commercial Aircraft over Melbourne, Australia May 28.2012 Exclusive by Donny Gilson

http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/2190/213/Nibiru_System_In_Full_Color_As_Seen_By_A_Passenger_O...
Videos re Nibiru flyby

3. Nibiru-Planet X update February 1 2008 (South Pole Telescope - Authentic) - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL0A98B09A0FB04897&feature=player_embedded&v=6FtxaXZjs8c#!

4. Analysis of DNIr4808n South Pole Telescope (SPT) Planet X / Nibiru Disclosure Video - Yowusa.com - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE5jurtddUg&feature=autoplay&list=PL0A98B09A0FB04897&playnext=2

DARPA Chronovisor probes and Remote viewing studies of Nibiru flyby

6. Are you on a 2012-13 catastrophic or positive future timeline? Part I
by Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd

This article is part of a continuing Exopolitics.com series on 2012-13 and its environmental, economic, social, and exopolitical impacts on our human society. It is recommended that Parts 1 and 2 of this article be read as a single whole.

In the course of research on potential impending transitional changes during the 2012-13 time horizon, this Examiner.com reporter has identified what can be described as two parallel realities, each buttressed by independent sets of data and personal and institutional decisions – a 2012-13 catastrophic timeline and a 2012-13 positive future timeline.

The two parallel 2012-13 timelines are quite opposite in nature. The cataclysmic timeline envisions 2012-13 as a time when the Earth is hit by destructive “solar flares, large meteors, tsunamis, world-wide coastal inundations, mega-catastrophe.” The positive timeline envisions 2012-13 as follows: “2012 heralds Earth’s entry into the Golden Age, and between now and then is a time of transition from life as you have known it into life totally in harmony with all of Nature.”

PART I CONTINUES AT:

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2011/12/are-you-on-a-2012-13-catastrophic-or-positive-futur...

7. Are you on a 2012-13 catastrophic or positive future timeline? Part II
by Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd

This article is part of a continuing series on 2012-13 and its environmental, economic, social, and exopolitical impacts on our human society. It is recommended that Parts 1 and 2 of this article be read as a single whole.

Read Part I

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2011/12/are-you-on-a-2012-13-catastrophic-or-positive-futur...

Will a ‘Planet X, Nibiru or red or sub-brown dwarf’ materialize in our solar system in 2012-13?

One popular meme or model of a 2012-13 “catastrophic timeline” hinges on the entry of a ‘Planet X, Nibiru or red or sub-brown dwarf’ into our solar system, creating the gigantic solar flares and large meteors that in turn trigger tsunamis, coastal inundations, and systems collapse on Earth.

As a scientific control we can reasonably ask – Is a ‘Planet X, Nibiru or red or sub-brown dwarf’ headed toward Earth, to arrive in 2012-13?

One indicator that a ‘Planet X, Nibiru or red or sub-brown dwarf’ may be headed toward Earth, to arrive in 2012-13 can be inferred from a Project Camelot document, a 2008 ‘Letter from a Norwegian politician’ stating, in part, that,

"Planet X is coming, and Norway has begun with storage of food and seeds in the Svalbard area and in the arctic north with the help of the US and EU and all around in Norway. They will only save those that are in the elite of power and those that can build up again: doctors, scientists, and so on.

"As for me, I already know that I am going to leave before 2012 to go the area of Mosjøen where we have a deep underground military facility. There we are divided into sectors, red, blue, and green. The signs of the Norwegian military are already given to them and the camps have already been built a long time ago.

"The people that are going to be left on the surface and die with along the others will get no help whatsoever. The plan is that 2,000,000 Norwegians are going to be safe, and the rest will die. That means 2,600,000 will perish into the night not knowing what to do."

PART II CONTINUES AT:

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2011/12/are-you-on-a-2012-13-catastrophic-or-positive-futur...

END OF THIS ARTICLE

lookbeyond

16th February 2013, 03:11

Do we just need to wait and see which timeline we are on or i wonder do we pack up the family and move somewhere remote, btw my husband thinks im a conspiracy theorist now...-?go without him?

Wind

16th February 2013, 03:49

http://www.viewzone.com/rv2013.html

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GaelVictor

16th February 2013, 04:52

Do we just need to wait and see which timeline we are on or i wonder do we pack up the family and move somewhere remote, btw my husband thinks im a conspiracy theorist now...-?go without him?

Hello lookbeyond, i think we are on the balanced timeline now, things will happen but no more than need to.. As for Nibiru; the brown dwarf star, it doesn't exist in that form and it isn't coming for a fly-by either.

If you gently feel the urge to make a move (i don't mean out of emotions, like fear etc) but coming from your Self, take your hubby by the hand and go for it.

araucaria

16th February 2013, 06:57

ulli

16th February 2013, 09:32

Clif High, developer of the WebBots, has predicted June-July 2013 as a possible date for a global coastal event also predicted by Dr. Courtney Brown in 2010 Farsight Institute (Farsight.org) remote viewing experiments.

This sounds like the two sources are corroborating each other, but I would point out that Courtney Brown's experiments are already a part of the material that Clif High is picking up on. This is how he is so often mistaken - he is listening in to all the erroneous Internet speculation as well as the correct stuff.

...noticed this myself, a few times . To the point where even their books repeat each other's spelling errors.
But I guess once you've publish one book you've got to keep going...

while some focus on perpetuating the arms race others perpetuate their publishing race;
after all, there's a reputation to live up to.

greybeard

16th February 2013, 10:15

Do we just need to wait and see which timeline we are on or i wonder do we pack up the family and move somewhere remote, btw my husband thinks im a conspiracy theorist now...-?go without him?

I have a slight problem with the time line idea.
This is why.
Every time I/we make a choice or act---a new potential opens up.
The word time line seems to imply a fixed direction or even a definite result, for at least a period of time.

I see that events are cyclic but not the same--- any event is not necessarily the same for everyone.
Even two people in the same situation have different results.

So potential changes moment by moment, its fluid so I think the concept of time line is incorrect it even seems to imply ---- "This is where we are going!!!!." One person may be going, there a lot of people may be going there, but not necessarily every one, or anyone.

You could debate the concept for ever--its a meme, a buzz expression and there is some fear included in it----something out with our control is the end result of this!!!!
Its a all hypothetical.

This is no reflection on lookbeyond --she just triggered the thought.
Certainly the standard advice is,--- look to live on higher ground--or at least plan for emergencies.
That is sound advice.

Chris

Mulder

16th February 2013, 11:36

By Alfred Lambremo... - 6 months 3 weeks ago

(Downloads & videos at Link below - KiwiElf)

Dwarf star hidden by chemtrails

Mr. Webre, who is Faculty member at ExoUniversity.org. contends that the U.S. government's Chemtrails program was designed with a primary (secret) intent to provide an atmospheric shield to hide from public view the approach of the possible brown dwarf twin star to our Sun in its approach to its perihelion or closest distance to our Sun at a ninety degree angle to the ecliptic, or plane of rotation of our Sun's planets.

END OF THIS ARTICLE

Hi Kiwielf, I want to respectfully disagree with you about Planet X/Nibiru/Brown Dwarf or what ever it's called.
I don't want to repeat the many threads that are even here on projectavalon about this subject. However, let's think about it - wouldn't Courtney Brown remote view it as it would be in the sky? As to it being "hidden" by chemtrails - how can we still see the moon in the same brightness? How can satellite telescopes in space not see it (which are above the chemtrails)...

My own opinion is the Global Coastal Event will not happen by 30 June 2013. So we don't have long to wait and see what happens.

KiwiElf

16th February 2013, 13:38

Hi Kiwielf, I want to respectfully disagree with you about Planet X/Nibiru/Brown Dwarf or what ever it's called.

Again Mulder - disagree with the original post(ers) at the first link (ie Alfred Lambremont-Webre, et-al), not me. I'm just the messenger: I didn't write it :)

Operator

16th February 2013, 13:56

araucaria

16th February 2013, 15:02

This sounds like the two sources are corroborating each other, but I would point out that Courtney Brown's experiments are already a part of the material that Clif High is picking up on. This is how he is so often mistaken - he is listening in to all the erroneous Internet speculation as well as the correct stuff.

I am a bit confused by the way the sentences are constructed. I think that you say that Clif would pick up internet discussions as Courtney Brown
publishes his material. However the global coastal event is already in Clif's data since 2003.

Or did you mean that remote viewers are influenced by the fact that Clif speaks about a global coastal event already for years?

Anyway, I am getting more and more baffled by reported fireballs in the US skies and now exploding meteorites in Russia. Perhaps
we're seeing the prelude of such an event in the making. It's healthy to be skeptical but we must be realistic too.

Whoever comes first in any particular area will be having an effect on the other. Remote viewing into the future is an extrapolation from RV into the past.

Regarding meteorites coinciding with an asteroid although coming from a different direction: for two rare events to coincide, it sounds suspiciously like one or the other is unnatural, i.e. artificial. If some natural disaster of this kind has been forecast for years on the Internet by whoever and by whatever means, I would tend to say, How very convenient!

Operator

16th February 2013, 15:37

Whoever comes first in any particular area will be having an effect on the other.

Yes, in general that's true for the paradigm we have lived in so far.

Remote viewing into the future is an extrapolation from RV into the past.

I don't agree ... RV is NOT done with the 'monkey mind' and thus not an extrapolation of ones conscious mind.
Of course this is only true if the RV session is done in a full professional way under the right conditions.

Regarding meteorites coinciding with an asteroid although coming from a different direction: for two rare events to coincide, it sounds suspiciously like one or the other is unnatural, i.e. artificial.

I didn't see it posted here on the forum (I may have missed it) but there was rumor on the internet that the Russians allegedly fired
a missile on the asteroid and that meteorites were debris as a result of that. I don't know, without more facts or evidence it is
probably not worth going down that path. But hey, nowadays everything is possible. Won't be the first time something very crazy
turns out to be true after all.

I just monitor events. Lots of them cannot be verified. Others are so in your face that they cannot be faked or denied.
Like the drawings we've been doing as kids, patterns develop from connecting the dots.

Bill Ryan

16th February 2013, 15:53

there was rumor on the internet that the Russians allegedly fired
a missile on the asteroid and that meteorites were debris as a result of that.

If the Russian military has technology that can fire at and hit an object, previously unseen and unsuspected, traveling at 33,000 mph through our upper atmosphere, then that's pretty impressive. :)

:focus:

Regardless of whether any foreseen earth changes (or solar activity) this year are caused directly or indirectly by Planet X (whatever or wherever it may be), I'd like to clarify the following:

If Planet X was about to "fly by" this summer, we'd already be able to see it.
Any object in stable orbit around the sun, no matter how eccentric the orbit might be, will not ''impact' it. That's impossible.
Less there should be any misunderstanding from the article or the thread title, there'll be no impact with Planet Earth either.
There may be gravitational or electromagnetic effects from a massive incoming body (such as a brown dwarf star about the size of Jupiter) that could cause effects on our climate or on solar activity. This could be the case even if Planet X is nowhere near us. (It may become visible in a few years' time, but not before.)

Operator

16th February 2013, 17:40

there was rumor on the internet that the Russians allegedly fired
a missile on the asteroid and that meteorites were debris as a result of that.

If the Russian military has technology that can fire at and hit an object, previously unseen and unsuspected, traveling at 33,000 mph through our upper atmosphere, then that's pretty impressive. :)

Yeah, I know ... that is why I described it as rumor and already mentioned "it is probably not worth going down that path".
The trigger to mention it at all came from the angle of it being 'unnatural' or 'artificial'.

The only thing coming close to such a phenomena is perhaps the event when 1st Lt. Bob Jacobs witnessed an UFO decapitating
the warhead from a nuclear missile while it was in flight. But even then the speed wasn't close to 33,000 mph (approx. 1/3 to 1/2
that speed). Because we suspect that there is a break away civilization having this technology the question rises if they could
interfere with natural events turning them into a disaster. But that's all speculation ... better leave it alone.

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On the other hand I think we should also be cautioned not to dismiss things just because we cannot explain yet. A 3d sphere flying
through a 2d plane would be experienced as a growing- and then diminishing dot while they never saw it coming. They wouldn't
have a clue about what just happened.

What exactly does the LUCIFER device add to the Arizona telescope so that they can detect things other telescopes won't see?

ghostrider

16th February 2013, 18:09

lookbeyond

16th February 2013, 23:08

Do we just need to wait and see which timeline we are on or i wonder do we pack up the family and move somewhere remote, btw my husband thinks im a conspiracy theorist now...-?go without him?

I have a slight problem with the time line idea.
This is why.
Every time I/we make a choice or act---a new potential opens up.
The word time line seems to imply a fixed direction or even a definite result, for at least a period of time.

I see that events are cyclic but not the same--- any event is not necessarily the same for everyone.
Even two people in the same situation have different results.

So potential changes moment by moment, its fluid so I think the concept of time line is incorrect it even seems to imply ---- "This is where we are going!!!!." One person may be going, there a lot of people may be going there, but not necessarily every one, or anyone.

You could debate the concept for ever--its a meme, a buzz expression and there is some fear included in it----something out with our control is the end result of this!!!!
Its a all hypothetical.

This is no reflection on lookbeyond --she just triggered the thought.
Certainly the standard advice is,--- look to live on higher ground--or at least plan for emergencies.
That is sound advice.

Chris

I appreciate your input Chris, thankyou

lookbeyond

KiwiElf

16th February 2013, 23:23

according to the meier contacts , Ptaah stated that nibiru the destroyer came by in 1997 dragging the hale bop comet, it passes by our neighborhood around every 500 years or so ... no need to worry ...at least until the year 2497 ...

ghostrider...
Are you referring to the mysterious Hale-Bopp "Companion Object" (which disappeared "off the radar"), discovered by amateur astronomer Chuck Shramek - but also sighted several months earlier by the Japanese National Observatory, the Vatican & the Hubble - in 1996/7?

Mulder

17th February 2013, 10:49

according to the meier contacts , Ptaah stated that nibiru the destroyer came by in 1997 dragging the hale bop comet, it passes by our neighborhood around every 500 years or so ... no need to worry ...at least until the year 2497 ...

Do you mean Nibiru comes every 500 years or Hale Bopp? I thought Hale Bopp won't be back for another 2520-2533 years. Remember, Marshall Applewhite Leader of Heaven's Gate, organized a mass suicide in hopes of spiritually riding along with the UFO which he thought followed the Hale–Bopp comet (I don't know if this is the same object as Nibiru).

The Truth Is In There

17th February 2013, 14:40

Do we just need to wait and see which timeline we are on or i wonder do we pack up the family and move somewhere remote, btw my husband thinks im a conspiracy theorist now...-?go without him?

there's no need to wait because all timelines are catastrophic, perhaps to varying degrees, but there's most likely no single timeline you could possibly enter that does not experience these catastrophes. they must happen and they will, there's no way they can not happen because not only would it invalidate all prophecies about the current time period that have been made throughout the ages (countless ones) but it would also change the future of the earth in ways that are not planned. the earth will be largely depopulated, the difference in terms of timelines will be how severe the changes will be and what happens afterwards.

here's an interesting interview re prophecies and earth changes. now is the time they were speaking about, all of them, the next 7 years will be decisive. doesn't matter if people believe it or continue to live in denial until the last moment because they're skeptics or don't like the truth, or if they "think positively" and hope nothing will happen. it would be better to get used to the idea and prepare, because prepared is better than surprised, and because keeping a positive mind set DESPITE worldwide catastrophes will be the most important thing one could possibly do. the next harvest starts in 2013, whether people like it or not.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cij4K_jHjDg

KiwiElf

18th February 2013, 02:51

lookbeyond

18th February 2013, 05:41

How incredible, so many dots that join, fascinating about "wormwood" and Revelation, thankyou,

lookbeyond

The Truth Is In There

18th February 2013, 09:22

Will attempt to upload a small 3-page PDF document related to my Post #17. Please bear with me as it may not work - if not I'll convert it later ;)

This was extracted from the March 1997 issue of Connections, the NZ-based UFO magazine at the time.

In summary, a large planetary object was sighted by an amateur astronomer, Chuck Shramek, trailing the Hale-Bopp comet, and given the name "Companion". NEXUS magazine ran a similar article at the time. It implicated the Vatican, NASA, and the Japanese National Observatory, which had spotted it several months earlier. It caused such a controversy that the whole story "disappeared".

Part of the controversy included an anonymous email sent to Art Bell from someone claiming to have discovered a classified file called "Wormwood?" (with a question mark) at the Vatican which allegedly had a direct uplink to the Hubble.

Considering the most recent events, Pope's resignation, meteorites and increasing earthquakes, they may have been onto something. Here goes...

from what i've read elsewhere (don't remember where, sorry!) the object that came with hale-bopp was a reptilian ship. i believe it was remote viewed by a lot of people and certain contactees talked about it as being the mothership of "draco prime" or something, the draconian leader. who knows what's fact and what's fiction.

but as regards wormwood, i'm pretty sure that that is supposed to be an asteroid that either hits earth or passes by so closely that it nevertheless has devastating effects. one needs to keep in mind that all descriptions in these prophecies were made by people who didn't know the science of what they saw, they could only describe it in their terms, which is why many of these prophecies are so picturesque and metaphorical.

the remarkable thing is that they all describe the effects they saw in similar terms which means they witnessed the same event, all of these prophets, throughout the ages, and some of them were able to pinpoint a rough time frame of when it's going to happen - the mayans, the egytians, nostradamus, edgar cayce, st. malachy etc.

apart from that, those people who think that nothing will happen or continue to put down things like prophecy as basically superstition or perhaps ET mind control, still have to explain why governments and those "in the know" are building underground shelters all over the place since decades.

the proof for a coming ELE is so overwhelming that it's absolutely impossible to explain it away. i pity those who don't accept the facts for i imagine it was exactly the same before the deluge, when a minority tried to warn the masses and was scoffed and laughed at. we know, or at least we can pretty much guess, how it ended. we may not be able to ensure our survival in these shells by preparing but we can at least increase the odds.

Sirius White

18th February 2013, 23:06

Interesting...............

KiwiElf

19th February 2013, 09:01

KiwiElf

20th February 2013, 21:27

Operator & MorningSong have provided a related post & up-todate video from Farsight here:
Climate and Post-2012 Earth Changes Update from Farsight

VIDEO: Dr. Courtney Brown - Russia meteor & asteroid 2012 DA14 may constitute 2013 "global coastal event" remote viewed in another timeline

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55901-Climate-and-Post-2012-Earth-Changes-Update-from-Farsight&p=638566#post638566

Mulder has also provided a related thread with additional links here:
Web bot hit: International Space Station (ISS) Communications lost Feb 19 2013!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56028-Web-bot-hit-International-Space-Station--ISS--Communications-lost-Feb-19-2013-

Jackovesk also has important background info on his thread here:
Is The Last Card About To Be Played..?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56062-Is-The-Last-Card-About-To-Be-Played..

GoodeTXSG provides insightful & related speculations on his thread here:
Speculating: Global Meteors, Space Based Weapons & Current Struggle for Financial Systems Related?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55967-Speculating-Global-Meteors-Space-Based-Weapons-Current-Struggle-for-Financial-Systems-Related&p=638590#post638590

NOTE: Purpose of this single post is to provide related links which readers may have missed. (Also recommend readers keep an eye on the regular USGS Earthquake feeds - these are increasing and spreading across the Equatorial regions particularly around the Ring of Fire, concentrated out from the Indonesian region, and are now impacting around the West coast of US/Mexico/Chile)

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http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/
Will update as required. Thank you folks! :) KE

Ultima Thule

21st February 2013, 10:36

A question to astronomically gifted individuals:

I can´t get over a discrepancy(at least that is what I think exists) regarding this Nibiru/Nemesis/brown dwarf/our suns twin companion.

a. On the other hand we are talking about 3600 years interval between appearances.
b. On the other hand mass extinctions, that are thought to support the case for a twin star, are archeologically studied to having occurred millions of years apart.

In the case of a. I would see it quite impossible for a amateur astronomer NOT spotting this object, via calculations if not any other way. Side note: Every single one picture or video I´ve ever seen, claimed to be proof of Nibiru have been, well not real, reflections, sundogs, etc, you name it.
In the case of b. the sumerian among others claims(or interpretations of such) on behalf of this object just don´t make any sense, who would be off by millions of years.

So is there anyone with astronomical aptitude here that actually can, ahem... at first understand what I am struggling to ask here ;) and come up with an answer with scientific basis that could be taken to the bank, on behalf of this object being reality?

UT

EDIT: in principle, I have nothing against binary-system, on the contrary, that is what I see as very fitting to nature.

KiwiElf

21st February 2013, 11:20

Ultima...
Well we don't "know" - (no-one knows - because it hasn't happened in this timeline yet) if Nibiru is real other than ancient writings that it may have visited us in the ancient past. But some "thing" or some event(s) certainly did screw this planet over in the past - several times! ;)

Likewise, the author of this article has stated it might be Nibiru, or Brown Dwarf Star or gravity well etc etc. Same one event, different events or separate converging events?

What Chuck Shramek discovered ie the "Companion" object in 1996/7 (altho really he hadn't discovered it because the Hubble, and JNO had seen it earlier and kept quiet about it) might be the same thing. Also, my understanding is that this ummm "object" or whatever it is, may be currently below the Earth, so we wouldn't see it unless we were in Antarctica. (there seems to be a great deal of activity going on down there in that regard).

Another possibility being bandied around is that "it" is near the sun, and the brightness of the sun is obscuring it.

If... and only if it's a brown dwarf star, we probably can't see it with the naked eye anyway (you need infra red).

Also, "its" allegedly on a completely different orbit to ours.

Others claim we're heading for a pole flip.

Google Earth/Sky DID hide some unusual "things" but that's not to say it's Nibiru. We simply do not "know". (But it would be unwise to just dismiss it or consider it a myth). When the original author used the word "impact", I translate that as "greatest effect" - not a physical collision with the Earth.

But then, look at what the Moon or solar flares can do from a great distance? :)

Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any astronomical books, or software in the public domain that will clarify it (Nibiru) either. I use an astronomy program called Redshift, but no Nibiru or brown dwarf heading for us on there. ;)

I think it's a "wait-and-see" for the moment - and not much we can do about it anyway, or can we?...

Webre stated, "It is vital that the public inform ourselves about the hazards of the flyby of this possible brown dwarf twin star, and how we can create a collective "intention vortex" that can manifest a safe brown dwarf twin star flyby for humanity and for as many of us who can become aware of its possible reality without panic and with proactive consciousness."

"Thoughts become things"... how much power do our thoughts and beliefs have to manifest our reality, individually and collectively? ;)

GoodETxSG

21st February 2013, 16:14

Thank you KiwiElf,
Great Research and Hypothesis. I look forward to looking into each of your links to research further. I know a lot of hype about planet X, Nibiru, the "Brown Dwarf" etc has produced a lot of controversial and confusing data to pick through... but even though I do not totally buy into it I cannot rule it out.

The majority of star systems are binary or trinary or failed versions of either with brown dwarfs in the mix. The binary star systems usually are very far apart and come in close proximity very rarely...

Just like the "rumored orbit" of the mystery object (And ancient reports of earlier encounters) that science says HAS to be out there perturbing the orbits of Comets and other debris from the kuiper belt. I am just saying... all the hype aside there is direct scientific evidence (Mostly withheld) that there is a massive body in a strange far outer orbit.

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Hervé

21st February 2013, 16:44

Re-post from here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=567095&viewfull=1#post567095) <---:

OK... here is my attempt at clarifying the matter of the known facts about these cycles of asteroids/meteorites pummelings:

I think that too many cyclical events are being correlated to ONE companion star to our sun and inferred to be a dwarf star named "Nemesis."

One type of cyclical events is illustrated with this "clock":

http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/images5/raup-sepkoski-plot.gif
A PLOT OF DATA ON LIFE EXTINCTIONS, COLLECTED BY DAVID RAUP AND JOHN SEPKOSKI AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, SHOWS PEAKS IN THE EXTINCTION RATE OCCURRING AT 26- TO 30-MILLION-YEAR INTERVALS, AS INDICATED BY ARROWS

The above from: http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/extinctions-nemesis.html (http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/extinctions-nemesis.html)

Check this java applet to get an idea on the long-period orbit of such a "companion":

http://astro.ph.unimelb.edu.au/central/Mirrors/binary/binary.htm (http://astro.ph.unimelb.edu.au/central/Mirrors/binary/binary.htm)

The other "clock" is given by the 26,000 year cyle of the precession of the equinoxes:

http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml (http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml)

https://qy9cnq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p-GVcbSbWldyGBQSPHMm5Gu2c_gQooLDnrX1_hMZrD_moxX1AG7wpWt3XxuM0AvpAN0Xz7igmIuaz7o3orMkxMGLbMuJXbtKx/Binary-01.gif?psid=1

Due to the existence of both type of "clocks", and accordingly, that makes our solar system a TERNARY star system with one star called "Sun" and TWO companion stars BOTH named NEMESIS.

There lies the confusion!

Wasn't it Arthur Neuman who said something like: "The real trouble is that everything is happening at the same time!"?

Now that the main "clocks" are disentangled:

Keeping with the train of thoughts of some of the magnetic reversals being due to falling skies on people's heads... here is the illustration suggested by the Binary Research Institute (http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml) for the existence of the Oort cloud Sheer Edge:

https://qy9cnq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pbOeTgzrNa9sADbYgZAy3z11fT69WySfDNJf42APzQ18RGsybEZ1E7k2bpnSq4Im4dVQRFjWVkkN8ymGnXRhVg04hsPda5pqV/Sheer%20edge-02.gif?psid=1

Now, that's quite a pool (billiards) game!

That particular 26,000 year clock would have it's "midnight" every time this solar system gets bombarded with these asteroids.

It therefore seems like the "elite" have gotten a pretty good idea on when that "midnight occurs, earth-time wise.

This is also the scenario promulgated by Laura Knight-Jadzcyk and the "Cs."

Thinking of it though, it doesn't really matter where one goes in hiding within this solar system when all of it is going to be pummeled like Dresden during WW II... unless their secret space program is really about getting out of this solar system for a while...
Now... on the other hand, every time one of these cycle completes, there are LESS and LESS of these asteroids/meteorites left as potential projectiles against this solar system :)... which make it easier to focus and deflect the remaining ones!

To corroborate with the Dogon cosmology there are these other interesting recorded cylces about Sirius:

From: http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/srg/SiriusResearch.shtml (http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/srg/SiriusResearch.shtml)

Mr. Homann concludes below that:
"These observations clearly indicate that the so-called 'precession of the earth' is NOT a scientific fact, and that the Sirius system has a noticeable gravitational influence on our solar system."

INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA:
Significant time deviations in earth's period of rotation, as measured with respect to Sirius have occurred over certain months (e.g. in the spring of 1989, when Sirius A, Sirius B and the sun were in direct conjunction). Some minor, but nevertheless distinct deviations appear at regular yearly intervals (usually around March). Since these deviations occur annually, the gravitational influence of the moon or perturbations caused by other planets in the solar system can be excluded. Since such deviations from mean sidereal time CANNOT be caused by an increase or decrease in the speed of earth's rotation, I suspect a combined 'gravitational' effect of the sun and the Sirius system on the earth's axis of rotation. In my article "Some more thoughts on gravitation" I have tried to describe how the Sirius system might be responsible for a 'curvature in space' that can reach as far as to our solar system. As we know, the revolution of Sirius B and Sirius A around their common center of gravity over a period of about 49 years proceeds in an almost vertical plane relative to the planetary plane of our solar system. This motion could cause a periodic fluctuation in the curvature of space, similar to an ocean where a calm wind would create long-stretched waves. If a ship were to sail on such waves, its mast will gently swing back and forth. Likewise, during the earth's orbit around the sun the axis of the earth would 'oscillate' due to these periodic fluctuations of the space-curvature between sun and Sirius. Although the speed of earth's rotation remains unchanged (!), a positive or negative time-deviation from mean sidereal time can be measured, depending on the magnitude and direction of the oscillation of the axis, the sidereal point of reference and the latitude on earth from which the measurements are taken. As a matter of fact, the International Earth Rotation Service observes significant daily variations in earth's sidereal rotation period.

It is also very important to remember that despite some major variations in earth's period of rotation, the mean time interval of the sidereal year or earth's complete orbit period basically remains constant.

Even more surprising is the observation that the mean time interval of the sidereal year, as measured with respect to Sirius is nearly identical (by less than one second) to the time interval of the tropical year. According to the theory of 'precession', a yearly time difference of about 1223 s is supposed to occur between a sidereal year and the tropical year.

The meridian transit measurements of Sirius have shown that neither a time difference of 6 × 1223 s, nor a difference of 6 × 3.34 s has occurred over the 6-year observation period from April 1994 to April 2000.

These observations clearly indicate that the so-called 'precession of the earth' is NOT a scientific fact, and that the Sirius system has a noticeable gravitational influence on our solar system. Obviously, Newton's laws of gravitation cannot explain Einstein's universe. In that respect, it requires further study to see if the 49 year cycle of the Sirius system can provide us with an explanation of the large fluctuations and annual irregularities in earth's rate of rotation that have also been observed around 1941 by experts at the US Naval Observatory.

Additional Comment:
Two other phenomena should be mentioned that took place during the conjunction of Sirius A, Sirius B and the sun around the beginning of February to the end of March 1989, as the function of the time deviation entered from the negative into the positive range (see Graph 1). During this time our outermost planet Pluto, whose revolution period of 248.421 years is exactly 5.0004 to 1 in relation to the Sirius B - Sirius A's orbit period of 49.68 years, went through the perihelion of its very eccentric orbit. On 23 March 1989 an 800 m long 'rock' came in strikingly close proximity to our earth at a speed of about 70.000 km/h. Missing our earth by only a few hours - thereby sparing us a gigantic catastrophe - it also went through its perihelion between sun and Sirius. Thanks to astronomers, who discovered it as it already disappeared again into the vastness of space, a major widespread panic was avoided. These celestial phenomena are not subject to plain coincidence, but are lawful celestial mechanical events. In fact, the Sirius system determines the second (empty) focus point, which is essential for the elliptic orbits of these and other celestial bodies in our solar system. Keep in mind that even our earth has its perihelion around January 2, as it passes through the conjunction of sun and Sirius each year

According to how records have been deciphered, Ancient Egyptians were VERY obsessed with Sirius. That was their chronometer/clock.

Hervé

21st February 2013, 16:52

And another repost from another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55996-Mini-Solar-System-Entering-Our-Own-Breaking-News-from-Prof.-James-McCanney&p=638041&viewfull=1#post638041):

Second, the only plausible hypothesis for a "mini solar system" is the one about our solar system being part of a binary star system and, by definition, the twin "solar system" cannot enter our solar system but both stars keep dancing around each other while circling the galaxy.

Ok, I am no expert so just a few serious questions out of curiosity:

1. In a binary system both stars are always beyond the orbit of each outer most planets?
2. If 1 is true then would it be possible that orbits of (outer most) planets could intermingle?
3. Is there definite proof of how the asteroid belt came to be?

Well, from what i gathered out of the Binary Research Institute (http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/), is that -- from a mechanical point of view, not the "electrical Universe" one -- these objects are dislodged from the Oort Cloud:

https://fwtinw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pbOeTgzrNa9sADbYgZAy3z11fT69WySfDNJf42APzQ18uIC94BUr-vR5E2cZisY3m5R-8hhCXNzszwOKKaGdpYuA_4yCwt9F0/Sheer%20edge-02.gif?psid=1

The period of cycling around each other being fine tuned around 24,000 years when taking into account acceleration (speeding up) and deceleration (slowing down) of both stars on their orbit around each other. With such a period/frequency for these "returns, anything that was too close to each other at the beginning of the solar system formation would, by now, be settled into a stable geometry around their respective sun at each passing/"return."

So, that's a definite "YES" for the question.

As for question #2, from a mechanical point of view and not an "Electrical Universe" one, considering the period/frequency/return of 24,000 years over a time scale of billions of years, I would think that anything that could get smashed to smithereens, was; and that, now, any outer objects are somehow in a stable geometry around their respective sun as well as with each other.

However, that may not be true for the Oort Cloud objects which still may get dislodged with each passing as pictured above. This then support the double whammy envisioned by Laura Knight-Jadzcik of "waves" of old dislodged objects in long orbits added to the newly ejected ones.

On question #3, none that I know of, the debate mostly being between a "man-made" catastrophe and the destabilization of the gravitic standing wave (see Stan Deyo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8oQn-8YmU0)) for that particular orbit. If that asteroid belt were formed due to a smashing of a celestial bolide into a planet, I would expect the pieces to have flown around in all directions and not constitute an annular belt but some ellipsoid envelops around both the Sun and Jupiter (still from a mechanical point of view, not sure what the picture would be with the Electrical Universe or a David Lapoint inverted magnetic bowls).

As for getting an idea of the complexity of motions around a moving sun orbiting a binary companion while circling the galaxy, check this one out:

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Hope this gives some reference frame to explore the subject further?

KiwiElf

21st February 2013, 20:40

Thank you guys - that's awesome (a picture's worth a thousand words! ) - better than my ramblings anyway ;)

(Amzer - I'm nominating you as Avalon's chief Astronomer ;))

KiwiElf

23rd February 2013, 22:54

Allegedly... "something" intercepting Asteroid DA14 (from NASA feed)
I cannot validate this ... it is interesting (but could be faked).

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Uploaded on Feb 17, 2013

Incredible footage caught by NASA as they tracked Asteroid DA14. If it was a natural celestial event then why did NASA cut the feed. It is my belief that our Extraterrestrial friends somehow altered the course of the Asteroid, thereby putting it out of harms way and saving countless lives here on Earth. Footage credit: http://www.nasa.gov/

KiwiElf

27th February 2013, 01:21

UPDATE: Earthquakes continue to increase - compare to the Map above at post #25 taken a week ago. Frame grabbed minutes ago.

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http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/

GoodETxSG

27th February 2013, 14:52

So, if this model is true, as it appears to be. The solar system is hurdling through the Galaxy then there are all kinds of objects we can encounter either free floating or traveling a relatively high velocities. SO, who knows what we may encounter. Be it a "mini solar system" or rogue comets or expelled planets from dead solar systems... How the dynamics of a second star/brown dwarf would look like is an animation I would LOVE to see

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Earth Is Not Orbiting The Sun
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Earth Is Not Orbiting The Sun in the way we were taught More to do with Something Wrong With The Sun Moon & Earth series. STOP PRESS !! !! ..... View New OFFICIAL Info: 4 Magnetic Poles Forming On The Sun In May 2012 PLEASE Click Here http://youtu.be/lxLcDiiFfCM
Here we find an understanding of Why the Earth & our solar system do not actually orbit the Sun as taught, "Rather", We follow or better still, are dragged by the Sun in a Spiral Pattern through the universe & time.

This video offers explanations how, besides spinning on its axis and rotating as if going 'Around' the Sun, the Earth is shown to 'Follow' the Sun's movement through the Milky Way galaxy, in a continuous Spiral, not a Flat elliptical plane, thus we find a 3D universe as opposed to the accepted 2D.

** Believe it or not, there is no empirical evidence that the Earth actually orbits the sun ! **

This compilation of videos runs thus:

"The solar system's motion thru space by The Resonance Project / Nassim Haramein"

This simple animation was created by Nassim Haramein and The Resonance Project Foundation
This is a video clip that every human should see.
Many of us have been taught about how the solar system works by viewing a physical model that has the sun in the middle with the planets going around and around in a simple circular orbit without properly accounting for the motion of the sun (aprox. 450,000 miles per hour).
Because the both sun and the galaxy are moving through space, the Earth spirals an incredible distance through space in a year's time. How far the Earth moves depends on the reference point you are using for something "stationary" or "background" even though all objects in the universe are in motion.

The Earth rotates at 0-1040 mi/hr (depends on latitude)
The Earth orbits the sun at aprox. 66,629 mi/hr
The sun orbits the galactic centre at aprox. 447,000 mi/hr

In just considering how fast the sun is moving, we know the Earth travels at least 3,918,402,000 miles in a years time! (as it also orbits around the sun)

Total speed of the Earth moving through space is difficult to approximate do to the combination of motions.
Using Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) radiation it is estimated the total motion of the Earth through space is aprox. 1,342,000 mi/hr
Or 11,763,972,000 miles in 1 year!
(which is still only 0.2% the speed of light!)

The old model might make one picture being back where you started after a year of time has past, when in fact, you are over 11 BILLION miles from where you were a year ago!

I hope this video helps people to visualize what the motion of the Earth in our solar system looks like.
For more information on Nassim Haramein and The Resonance Project,

"Nassim Haramein describing the limitations of the 2D solar system image, and how our evolution imprints space time. Excerpt from the film 'Earth Pilgrims' " ---

"This animation is a video screenshot from Voyage through The Solar System version 1.20 (1989) and shows the earth's true motion in spirals. Besides spinning on its axis and rotating around the Sun, the Earth also follows the Sun's movement through the Milky Way galaxy. "

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http://theresonanceproject.org/

http://www.earthpilgrims.com/

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Planets DO NOT "orbit" the Sun.
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Planets DO NOT "orbit" the Sun.

There is no such thing as "orbit" in Phi Spiraling 3D Space. An orbit means that object A traces a complete circle around a STATIONARY object B on ONE plane. Like a centrifuge.

A circle (orbit) is 2D. Nothing ever traces a complete circle in space because all things are traveling on the Z AXIS while attempting to orbit which results in a helical trajectory. (Phi Spiral / corkscrew)

The Earth is not flat and neither is the solar system.
Nothing is stationary in space to act as a fulcrum.
The Sun is not stationary.

The proof of Dr. Bhat's assertion that we never orbit the Sun is that the outer planets can be seen throughout the year!

If the Sun sat on a flat meniscus and we orbited the Sun, we wouldn't see the outer planets for months at a time.
It takes Saturn 36 years to complete 1 "orbit".
That would mean we wouldn't see Saturn for months at a time because of our 180 degree perspective months out of the year.
I mean c'mon!!

The inner ones disappear in the 30 degree cone of illumination of the Sun, they do not pass behind it as claimed by Quackademia.
The 2 to 3 weeks where the outer planets disappear is due to their being within the 30 degree cone of illumination of the Sun from an Earth bound perspective.

You Can only see a dust particle floating in your room if it's in a beam of light.
The same for celestial bodies in space.

The classic heliocentric model of the solar system shows 9 concentric circles in 2D around a stationary Sun.

But the Sun is traveling on the Z Axis while the planets attempt to maintain their "orbit" (range of motion) around the equator. NO planet orbits around the Sun's equator.

The Sun traveling on the Z Axis creates a constant imbalance resulting in those 2D concentric circles to form a 3D cone with the Sun at the tip.

The planets WOULD orbit the Sun if it were sitting stationary in on some "fabric of space." But it's constantly running away from us. We only see 1 side. There is no "fabric of space."

There are no "pulling forces of gravity."
Density has NOTHING to do with "gravity."
The inward thrust of electricity is mislabeled gravity.

There are no spherical pulling forces in Nature on Any scale.
Not at the so called nucleus to an atom.
Not at the center of Earth.
Not at the center of a Galaxy, or any vortex.

This same dynamic applies to so called "Electron orbitals" also.

Jason Verbelli

sheme

27th February 2013, 15:22

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0jHsq36_NTU

This representation of the solar system I could watch for hours enjoy.

Hervé

27th February 2013, 17:19

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Earth Is Not Orbiting The Sun
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Planets DO NOT "orbit" the Sun.
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There is no such thing as "orbit" in Phi Spiraling 3D Space. An orbit means that object A traces a complete circle around a STATIONARY object B on ONE plane. Like a centrifuge.

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There is no "fabric of space."

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Jason Verbelli

Well... these guys are playing with words and definitions.

What make them right with their definitions is that the complete motion of a planet in space around a galaxy is considered. Well, they still use the center of the galaxy as a reference frame.

And that's the key concept: Reference Frame

If one takes the sun as reference frame (making it "stationary") no matter what the sun's motion is around its binary twin and both dancing around a galaxy itself dancing in a choreography of galaxies, then the planets DO ORBIT around the sun even though the actual, compounded motion is an elliptically spiraling elliptical spiral (taking into account the spiraling motion of a binary system circumnavigating the galaxy).

And that's depicted in Nassim's video when the view is perpendicular to the sun's traveling path.

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No planet gets lost in space behind the sun's path, in a trail of lost planets, around the galaxy! Even the asteroid belt and the Oort cloud are kept in synch with sun's motion around the galaxy!

For that to happen, then the planets have to be maintained in ORBIT around the sun, as a nearly independent reference frame, irrespective of their actual motion around the galaxy.

How's that possible?

That's where the Electric Universe and its Electromagnetic wooffs and warps give a very plausible solution to the mechanisms at work:

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The above experiments do demonstrate that THERE IS A FABRIC TO SPACE!

DURHAM, N.H. — After three years of puzzling over a striking “ribbon” of energy and particles discovered by NASA’s Interstellar Boundary Explorer (IBEX) at the edge of our solar system, scientists may be on the verge of cracking the mystery.

In a paper published Feb. 4, 2013, in the Astrophysical Journal, researchers, including lead author Nathan Schwadron of the University of New Hampshire, propose a “retention theory” that for the first time explains all the key observations of this astrophysical enigma.

http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/130502/full/ibexoutlinering_lg_610x817.jpg
A three-dimensional diagram of the retention region shown as a "life preserver" around our heliosphere bubble along with the original IBEX ribbon image. The interstellar magnetic field lines are shown running from upper left to lower right around the heliosphere, and the area where the field lines "squeeze" the heliosphere corresponds to the ribbon location. The red arrow at the front shows the direction of travel of our solar system. Image credit: Adler Planetarium/IBEX Team.

“If the theory is correct,” Schwadron notes, “the ribbon can be used to tell us how we’re moving through the magnetic fields of the interstellar medium and how those magnetic fields then influence our space environment.”

See this thread: Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Explained (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55326-Enigmatic-Ribbon-Of-Energy-Explained)

This guy's got a good grip on the subject except he is missing why our sun is travelling in an elliptical spiral in a similar fashion as planets do around it... i.e. that the sun is "orbiting" around a twin in a binary system:

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ThePythonicCow

27th February 2013, 20:08

No planet gets lost in space behind the sun's path, in a trail of lost planets, around the galaxy! Even the asteroid belt and the Oort cloud are kept in synch with sun's motion around the galaxy!

For that to happen, then the planets have to be maintained in ORBIT around the sun, as a nearly independent reference frame, irrespective of their actual motion around the galaxy.

How's that possible?

That's where the Electric Universe and its Electromagnetic wooffs and warps give a very plausible solution to the mechanisms at work:

Thanks for spelling that out.

I was gritting my teeth, thinking of a similar such response myself, but didn't end up with the time needed to make a reasonable post of it.

KiwiElf

28th February 2013, 04:11

Snapped a few minutes ago: Thursday, February 28, 2013 03:09:44 UTC Thursday, February 28,...
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Wind

28th February 2013, 05:05

Good catch, KiwiElf. I'm afraid that there will be a lot of quakes in March. Maybe even a big one.

Hervé

28th February 2013, 07:40

This just in, apparently, we may now have a mini-solar system entering ours... as always, have that grain or two of salt ready...

References also made in this vid to Hale-Bopp & the Companion object (refer back to PDF at Post #20).

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Also posted here as a main thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55996-Mini-Solar-System-Entering-Our-Own-Breaking-News-from-Prof.-James-McCanney

Thank you yiolas ;)

Well, again... those grains of salt... make them of pure Himalayan, boulder size, rock salt :) :

From McCanneys Website:

February 27, 2013 posting ... !!!!!!!!!!!!! EMERGENCY ANNOUNCEMENT ... DISINFORMATION UPDATE !!!! THE DISINFO CREW IS AT IT AGAIN ... AT LEAST 2 YOUTUBE POSTINGS ARE TRYING TO IMPERSONATE ME AND PASS FALSE INFORMATION ... there are at least 2 youtube videos posted recently by nameless disinformation agents placing my voice making it look like i am saying that a planet X object is coming into the solar system at this time ... THIS IS NOT TRUE ... I AM NOT SAYING ANY SUCH THING ... AND THIS IS WHY I NEVER POST ON YOUTUBE OR ANY OTHER MEDIUM EXCEPT MY OWN WEB PAGE ... what they have done is chopped segments of a 2004 program of mine and posted a february 2013 date on the face and posted on youtube under 2 different names making it sound like i am stating planet X object is now in the solar system ... then in the listener comments they of course post many slams trying to make me look like a nut case making false predictions of planet X ... I AM CURRENTLY WORKING WITH YOUTUBE TO HAVE THESE POSTINGS REMOVED ... this should show you that i am succeeding in informing the public of REAL events and exposing the government bogus tier II science for what it is ... this type of misinformation is their form of damage control as we head into this year of GREAT COMETs in which NASA and their fairy tale science will be exposed worldwide for the garbage that it is and my Plasma Discharge Comet Model will become the clear truth on the topic of comets and the electrical nature of our solar system ... this comes also as i am about the release my latest book (see the next posting) ... it seems someone is afraid of my success ... jim mccanney

Dear Conehead,

Thank you for your contribution and a very warm welcome to the Avalon forum!

KiwiElf

28th February 2013, 07:57

LOL Thanks (again) Amzer! (and Conehead too) ;) :rain:

GoodETxSG

28th February 2013, 14:17

If we are entertaining an object or group of objects entering or effecting our local sol system then this is worth a listen.

I have to say I dunno about this guy... not that familiar with his work. Some of the things he says raises my eye brows but I post you decide. It starts at the 39 minute mark. The first part is on chronic pain and is actually worth a listen.
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Published on Feb 27, 2013
Coast to Coast AM
Coast to Coast AM - 26.02.2013 - Planet X & Catastrophe C2CAM
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Date: 02-26-13
Host: George Noory
Guests: Gordon James Gianninoto, Dr. David Hanscom
Attorney, contractor, and ET contactee Gordon James Gianninoto provided an update on what he knows about Planet X and the coming pole shift, the nature of gravity, Earth's 'dark twin,' and why he believes the government is covering up imminent global catastrophe. The recent return of Planet X to our solar system has resulted in disruptions, including universal climate change and a rise of solar activity, that are merely a prelude to the calamities which will unfold once it gets closer to Earth. But Planet X is not merely a rogue celestial body, he declared, "this is definitely an inhabited planet. It's volcanic, atmospheric, and oceanic and it's inhabited by tall, selfish humans." He contended that the denizens of Planet X are actually the Annunaki, a race of space faring aliens that once had a colony on Earth and created human beings as slaves to mine for gold.

According to Gianninoto, the Annunaki's mistreatment of humans caused the "Council of Worlds, which are the unselfish extraterrestrials" to intervene and force them off of Earth by thwarting their projects on the planet. Unable to return to Planet X, these deposed Annunaki traveled to Mars to live and continue their gold mining, while they waited for their home world to return. Gianninoto claimed that these aliens brought their supplies and livestock with them to Mars, but eventually the marooned Annunaki died out there before they could rejoin their brethren on Planet X. Current images from the Mars NASA rovers, he said, show artifacts and debris from the Annunaki civilization that once lived there.

Gianninoto revealed that the US government found evidence of Planet X in 1983, but it was quickly declared top secret via an executive order by President Reagan. However, the "Council of Worlds" have told President Obama that he must announce the truth about Planet X to the world, since it is getting closer to Earth and will soon cause a polar shift. Gianninoto suggested that, should there be an announcement about Planet X, the government will purposely avoid using that name for it, so that people do not find out about the impending global catastrophe. Regardless of the foreknowledge available, he warned that up to 90% of the population will die from the events caused by Planet X going past Earth. Fortunately for the survivors, he said, "unselfish ETs" subsequently provide help for the like-minded humans remaining on Earth.

KiwiElf

10th March 2013, 07:18

For those who are adept at remote viewing and may be wondering how we can know if we're on a 2012-13 catastrophic timeline, or on a 2012-13 positive future timeline? (extracted from Part II - rest is at link):

As always, use your own discernment and please feel free to add your own RV experiences on the subject to this thread. :)

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2011/12/are-you-on-a-2012-13-catastrophic-or-positive-future-timeline-part-ii.html

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A separate training video/thread on (How to) Remote Viewing is here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56551-Military-RV-Psychic-Training-Course-FEATURE-by-Major-Ed-Dames-and-F.M.-Bonsall
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Here is one way to know if you are on a 2012-13 catastrophic timeline, or on a 2012-13 positive future timeline.

Find a quiet comfortable place to draw your focus within in solitude.

Relax, breathe slowly and let go of the cares of the day.

Close your eyes and imagine your ‘perfect place of peace’

It can be a meadow, a beach, at the foot of a mountain, on a distant planet, anywhere your inner self feels at peace.

Visualize yourself in your full potential and invite your full potential self into your place of peace.

Ask your full potential self:

"Am I on a 2012-13 catastrophic timeline, or on a 2012-13 positive future timeline?"

Listen to your hyperdimensional full potential self as she/he answers you.

Be genuine and in integrity in this process.