'Aliens with souls are living among the stars...

[rosie]

Very interesting to see in the news! ;)


Intelligent aliens may be living among the stars and are likely to have souls, a senior Vatican scientist said today.

The Pope’s Astronomer, Guy Consolmagno said he would be happy to 'baptise an alien' – but admitted that the chances of communicating with life outside the Earth was low.

The pronouncement raises the tantalising possibility that the Vatican may one day send missionaries into space to convert aliens to Christianity.

Speaking at the British Science Festival, Dr Consolmangno also dismissed Creationism and claimed that the revival of 'intelligent design’ – the controversial theory that only God can explain gaps in the theory of evolution – was 'bad theology’.

Dr Consolmango is one of a team of 12 astronomers working for the Vatican, said the Catholic Church had been supporting and funding science for centuries.

A self-confessed science fiction fan, he said he was “comfortable’ with the idea of alien life.

Asked if he would baptise an alien, he replied “Only if they asked.’

He added: “I’d be delighted if we found life elsewhere and delighted if we found intelligent life elsewhere.

“But the odds of us finding it, of it being intelligent and us being able to communicate with it - when you add them up it’s probably not a practical question.

“God is bigger than just humanity. God is also the god of angels.”

In the middle ages, the definition of a soul was to have intelligence, free will, freedom to love and freedom to make decisions, he said.

Those characteristics may not be unique to humans.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1312922/Pope-astronomer-Guy-Consolmagno-Aliens-souls-living-stars.html#ixzz0znjoNcqC

[conk]

Graaaaaaaadual disclosure.

[rosie]

My thought exactly conk. :) As this is the pope’s Astronomer, Guy Consolmagno, it has me thinking on quite a few levels. Will the Pope be the first to "officially" acknowledge that they have actually been in touch with E.T.'s, could this circle of knowledge have an agenda, as to who should come clean first? Oh, the list goes on and on.........

The political fallout could be enormous, in terms of trust and future trust. Who ever does come clean first, will most likely gain the most followers when it comes down to "who is actually telling the people of this world the truth"

I know if I was fighting for global power, this would be the "ace" that would ensure my credibility with the masses.

in love & light :wub:
in love & light

[wynderer]

My thought exactly conk. :) As this is the pope’s Astronomer, Guy Consolmagno, it has me thinking on quite a few levels. Will the Pope be the first to "officially" acknowledge that they have actually been in touch with E.T.'s, could this circle of knowledge have an agenda, as to who should come clean first? Oh, the list goes on and on.........

The political fallout could be enormous, in terms of trust and future trust. Who ever does come clean first, will most likely gain the most followers when it comes down to "who is actually telling the people of this world the truth"

I know if I was fighting for global power, this would be the "ace" that would ensure my credibility with the masses.

in love & light :wub:
in love & light

that's assuming that the Pope & buddies are telling the truth; also it's assuming that the 'ETs' the Vatican introduces are 1] actually ETs & 2] good guy ETs if so --

i personally consider the Vatican part of the NWO , & any 'disclosure' coming from any such NWO-aligned hi-ranking official is going to be either a lie, or some kind of twisted half-truth

tho i do agree that such pronouncements from the Vatican suggest that the world is being prepped for a disclosure, tho a false& lying one

[wynderer]

from Harley Hawkins post on the Igor...Nazi bell thread:

Hitler became obsessed with the novel [blwer-Lytton's -- see Harley's post] and was apparently fanatical over the prospect of an imminent underground invasion of the surface world in the future, and wanted to make alliances with these underground races so that once they emerged he could rule the earth in joint capacity. Some have posed an unusual theory that these underground beings consist of three main types: human like sorcerers, reptilian humanoids who are apparently a branch off from the ancient raptor-type bi-pedal saurian species who by-passed extinction by escaping into an underground cavern realm [literal Dungeons & Dragons stuff...], and also short, greyish cybernetic drones.

this is why i said #1] IF they are really ETs -- they may be ODs living on Earth -- the benevolent ETs all seem to communicate thru channeling -- highly suspect to me, any channeled stuff -- so easy for anyone from anywhere to say anything, w/ poor dumbed-down humans unable to track the channelers to their source

& many Nazis came to the USA & were placed in key & influential positions in all Branches of the USA military-industrial complex, now the ruling empire & chief bastion of the NWO

[Fredkc]

Firstly, I would save judgment of an event's genuineness for its arrival.

Consider that rule 1 of any slick politician (priests included) is,
When faced with something you have no control over, be sure to "get in front of it" by
* Showing signs of foreknowledge,
* Show signs of having given pre-approval (implied control),
* Maybe even baptizing whatever it is ;)

Even though any notion of control is an illusion, meaning it won't work on said "critter", it will usually work on the audience. This can be used as an attempt at control of the audience. The best way being to "withdraw approval" as a means of gathering the faithful into the fold, in the normal "Us vs. Them" ploy. ;)
Fred

[Beth]

What if the water melts them like the wicked witch of the west. Ooohhhh, I'm onto their devilish plans!!!!

[Fredkc]

Yaya, why not it worked in the movie "Signs" ;)

Member at the end? They said the invasion was defeated using a very simple, technology.
Couple that with how the one in their house reacted to water, I'd have to guess the secret weapon was a fire hose.

Fred

[Beth]

Yaya, why not it worked in the movie "Signs" ;)

Member at the end? They said the invasion was defeated using a very simple, technology.
Couple that with how the one in their house reacted to water, I'd have to guess the secret weapon was a fire hose.

Fred

LOL, totally forgot about that one and I watched that this summer! I like to watch sci-fi movies for hints and clues ;)

[irishspirit]

EXCELLENT FIND OP.

I think we are getting closer and closer to disclouser.

Interetsing time indeed.

(ps It is soooooo cold these days).

[jaybee]

The Pope’s Astronomer, Guy Consolmagno said he would be happy to 'baptise an alien'



THAT would be something to see. eh?


I'm picturing an ET baby in a shawl....:)


The Catholic Hierarchies' interest in ET life is fascinating.

Especially with them having their own BIG telescope...?

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-13417541.html


Thanks for the thread, Rosie.......:thumb:

[Carmody]

The Pope’s Astronomer, Guy Consolmagno said he would be happy to 'baptise an alien' – but admitted that the chances of communicating with life outside the Earth was low.

The alien may agree to it, as long as he does not have to marry the being's daughter.

[Carmody]

from Harley Hawkins post on the Igor...Nazi bell thread:

Hitler became obsessed with the novel [blwer-Lytton's -- see Harley's post] and was apparently fanatical over the prospect of an imminent underground invasion of the surface world in the future, and wanted to make alliances with these underground races so that once they emerged he could rule the earth in joint capacity. Some have posed an unusual theory that these underground beings consist of three main types: human like sorcerers, reptilian humanoids who are apparently a branch off from the ancient raptor-type bi-pedal saurian species who by-passed extinction by escaping into an underground cavern realm [literal Dungeons & Dragons stuff...], and also short, greyish cybernetic drones.

this is why i said #1] IF they are really ETs -- they may be ODs living on Earth -- the benevolent ETs all seem to communicate thru channeling -- highly suspect to me, any channeled stuff -- so easy for anyone from anywhere to say anything, w/ poor dumbed-down humans unable to track the channelers to their source

& many Nazis came to the USA & were placed in key & influential positions in all Branches of the USA military-industrial complex, now the ruling empire & chief bastion of the NWO

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Vril in the novel

The uses of Vril in the novel amongst the Vril-ya vary from an agent of destruction to a healing substance. According to Zee, the daughter of the narrator's host, Vril can be changed into the mightiest agency over all types of matter, both animate and inanimate. It can destroy like lightning or replenish life, heal, or cure. It is used to rend ways through solid matter. Its light is said to be steadier, softer and healthier than that from any flammable material. It can also be used as a power source for animating mechanisms. Vril can be harnessed by use of the Vril staff or mental concentration.

A Vril staff is an object in the shape of a wand or a staff which is used as a channel for Vril. The narrator describes it as hollow with 'stops', 'keys', or 'springs' in which Vril can be altered, modified or directed to either destroy or heal. The staff is about the size of a walking stick but can be lengthened or shortened according to the user's preferences. The appearance and function of the Vril staff differs according to gender, age, etc. Some staves are more potent for destruction, others for healing. The staves of children are said to be much simpler than those of sages; in those of wives and mothers the destructive part is removed while the healing aspects are emphasized. The destructive force is so great that

the fire lodged in the hollow of a rod directed by the hand of a child could cleave the strongest fortress or cleave its burning way from the van to the rear of an embattled host.

It is also said that if army met army and both had command of the Vril-force, both sides would be annihilated.

Interestingly, the Vril-ya also use Vril to take baths:

It is their custom also, at stated but rare periods, perhaps four times a-year when in health, to use a bath charged with Vril. They consider that this fluid, sparingly used, is a great sustainer of life; but used in excess, when in the normal state of health, rather tends to reaction and exhausted vitality. For nearly all their diseases, however, they resort to it as the chief assistant to nature in throwing off the complaint.

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It is just interesting to note that 'the powder of projection' aka 'the philosopher's stone' is nearly a perfect fit for all of the mentioned aspects of the vril fluid. Including being able to be in fluid form. the fit is far more perfect than being in any aspect 'off'. That close. The Rig veda, for example, speaks on how to take a bath with the fluid version. It is a bath of immortality and god like dimensionality and power.

And... it has, in actuality, returned to public knowledge-with regard to the exact and real specifics on how to manufacture it correctly, in the book by Robert E. Cox, called "The elixir of Immortality". It's real, to my knowledge and understandings, which is not insubstantial. It's the real thing kiddies. Ignore it at your peril.

[bashi]

Here another statement from the church: The Vaticans chief Demonologist, Corrado Balducci, discusses the existance of Aliens.


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[DianeKJ]

For some reason I find the image of a priest baptising an alien very amusing. I do however have an odd sense of humor.

Graaaaaadual dislosure indeed.
-Di

[conk]

Or it may be that they know the charade is up and they'd best start flirting with ideas others take as fact.

[DianeKJ]

hmmm. Maybe they are on some kind of timeline, and need to start rolling stuff out.