Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor?

[WhiteFeather]

Did a UFO intervene by destroying the meteor in russia before it hit our planet? I Found this On Gio's Ranch Thread. You be the judge.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk3h6ni-nZY

[phillipbbg]

Yes an Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) did pass through it at very high speed.... now who Fired the object ? Or does it matter? it happened and seems to have been a defensive action that prevented a lot of harm

[WhiteFeather]

The UFO.....Was it ours, or from the stars. Good question. Maybe we will never know the answer.

[kaon]

It sure looks like something was fired into it. However, I would like to see other videos of the event. This can't be the only one in existence.

[Bill Ryan]

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Confession: When I first saw this video posted (on another thread), I thought: "Nonsense. No way could the Russians shoot down a small object traveling at 33,000 mph."

But I watched the video -- and now I'm not nearly so sure. It really looks as if something solid and non-explosive struck the object cleanly from one side (coming from the left), and continued out of the frame to the right.

The video is pretty clear for what it is. It looked like what one would expect from a kinetic energy weapon. That's a very fast, large bullet, to you and me. :)

Here's the concept, which was always part of the Star Wars program (and the Russians have their equivalent, too):
http://dkosopedia.com/wiki/Brilliant_Pebbles

If the Russians really do have the technology to do this, the Americans should be worried. It would mean they can take down any satellite, missile or advanced aircraft they want to, at any time they choose.

The other outlandish explanation (more outlandish? Maybe not!) is that ETs intervened. I can't think of any other way to explain the video other than the above two suggestions.





Edit to add -- see my post #27 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55981-Did-A-UFO-Intervene-Destroying-Russian-Meteor&p=637679&viewfull=1#post637679) over the page. I've changed my mind. :)

[Prodigal Son]

It looks to me like whatever was fired at the meteor came from the ground.... but who knows for sure. If the Russians have the technology to do this they're not going to admit to it, and if a ufo did it they're certainly not admitting to that either.. at least not yet.....

Whatever the case, it is CRYSTAL CLEAR that SOMETHING hit that meteor and broke it up to reduce the damage it would create on impact.... as Bill said, non-explosive but it did the job.

[AuCo]

Did not do well in my science classes but anyway my thought:
- for an object at high speed to enter earth atmosphere it has to puncture at a more vertical angle than what the trajectory path appears in the video.
- if it was meant to shoot at a meteor it did a rather poor job.
However,...
:o

[KiwiElf]

According to some sources, America, Russia & China have advanced technology to varying degrees, capable of doing this (ie their own secret space programs, aka STAR TREK technology).

Allegedly, a couple of TR-3B's were "loaned" to Israel last year.

[WhiteFeather]

Did not do well in my science classes but anyway my thought:
- for an object at high speed to enter earth atmosphere it has to puncture at a more vertical angle than what the trajectory path appears in the video.
- if it was meant to shoot at a meteor it did a rather poor job.
However,...
:o

If an advanced race intervened here, im sure them terminating the meteor would be like shooting fish in a barrel.

[Hervé]

It sure was a fast travelling "object":



Looks like something went through the metorite..Perhaps shoot at by something... Good video evidence IMO...

3ZzG881Vii8

Referee, thank you for digging that video up because, if original and unaltered, it means that the object that zapped across the meteor unscathed was travelling at about twice as fast as the meteor itself. That is, at about 80,000 mph!



NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., now say the meteor weighed about 10,000 tons and was travelling 40,000 mph (64,373 km/h) when it exploded.


UFO anyone?

[Bill Ryan]

Did not do well in my science classes but anyway my thought:
- for an object at high speed to enter earth atmosphere it has to puncture at a more vertical angle than what the trajectory path appears in the video.


Actually, that's not the case. An object like an asteroid (God help us!) or meteor -- the difference between the two is just a matter of size -- can enter the Earth's atmosphere at pretty much any angle at all.

If it enters at a shallow angle, it hits a lot of atmosphere along the way (on its trajectory towards the ground) and is therefore more likely to burn up before it gets there. On the other hand, a large object coming in vertically would just piledrive its way straight through the atmosphere and impact the ground big time.

[WhiteFeather]

Daniel of Doria's YT Video. Watch at the 1:22 mark. There is another viewable object in the still.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80wZ6TchNCk

[Borden]

This is one of those instances when I really do think that places like this are the unwitting sheepdog to the socio-engineered mind. When so many subjects are rendered ludicrous, is it any wonder that the sorts of subjects we discuss here are considered the talk of flakes?

A place like Avalon should have some integrity and intelligence. If we play into their hands by buying into the most absurd 'conspiracies' then we poison everything for anything of merit we may discuss. We become laughable.

I'm not an expert in meteorites, but it looks as though that 'event' was a part of the dynamic of a very fast moving and super-heated object.

This depresses me but doesn't surprise me.

[Prodigal Son]

Did not do well in my science classes but anyway my thought:
- for an object at high speed to enter earth atmosphere it has to puncture at a more vertical angle than what the trajectory path appears in the video.


Actually, that's not the case. An object like an asteroid (God help us!) or meteor can enter the Earth's atmosphere at pretty much any angle at all.

But if it enters at a shallow angle, it hits a lot of atmosphere along the way (on its trajectory towards the ground) and is therefore more likely to burn up before it gets there. But a large object coming in vertically would just piledrive its way straight through the atmosphere and hit the ground big time.

I dunno Bill.. I thought the space shuttle came in at a shallow angle to reduce heat.... because if it came straight down it would get incinerated. Whatever the case, I'm not so sure I want to know the answer :(

Maybe this thing was a lot bigger that the 50ft diameter the MSM is telling us... or maybe it wasn't a meteor at all. Or maybe, it was the cabal throwing something at us. Didn't all the biggest bankers take off and go into hiding? They're probably in their bunkers pissed off to all hell that this thing didn't do what they intended. If that's the case, we know there's been a lot of ET intervention with nukes, so why not with this also.

[Tesseract]

I found this comment (user Doom2pro)on youtube regarding this video:

'By the way, watch the original video and it becomes really obvious what you are seeing, it's the gunge on the windshield causing optical distortion and reflections similar to a lens flair.
There is no object hitting the meteor, the meteor is passing by some crap on the windshield which is between the meteor and the camera.'

I haven't looked into it myself, but I think it is due diligence to do so before making any conclusions here.

[ScubaMonkey]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Superman!

[bennycog]

This is one of those instances when I really do think that places like this are the unwitting sheepdog to the socio-engineered mind. When so many subjects are rendered ludicrous, is it any wonder that the sorts of subjects we discuss here are considered the talk of flakes?

A place like Avalon should have some integrity and intelligence. If we play into their hands by buying into the most absurd 'conspiracies' then we poison everything for anything of merit we may discuss. We become laughable.

I'm not an expert in meteorites, but it looks as though that 'event' was a part of the dynamic of a very fast moving and super-heated object.

This depresses me but doesn't surprise me.

By very fast super heated object do you mean the meteor or the "missile". One of the first reports coming out was saying that it was shot at by the Russian military. So I think the issue does need to be discussed because of the type of weapon that would need to be used, is very advanced.

[KiwiElf]

I recommend GoodeTXSG's post here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55967-Speculating-Global-Meteors-Space-Based-Weapons-Current-Struggle-for-Financial-Systems-Related

Speculation it may be, but it makes the most sense IMO. Cheers ;)

[DeDukshyn]

I found this comment (user Doom2pro)on youtube regarding this video:

'By the way, watch the original video and it becomes really obvious what you are seeing, it's the gunge on the windshield causing optical distortion and reflections similar to a lens flair.
There is no object hitting the meteor, the meteor is passing by some crap on the windshield which is between the meteor and the camera.'

I haven't looked into it myself, but I think it is due diligence to do so before making any conclusions here.

Let's consider this.

First I'll dismiss the optical flare idea because grunge on a windshield can't cause that - only light sources can. I think what was meant was perhaps them apparent luminance of this piece of "grunge" - so let's assume that - this might be possible and valid.

It appears that even though the camera is tracking the object left to right - the piece of grunge is also moving left to right faster than the object. If I was tracking something left to right, any stationary object in my view would go right to left.

That said, I can also see this video has its own camera tracking (it's own zoomed track separate from the footage) and I cannot see the camera track of the camera because there is not enough in the scene, so the windshield grunge theory still may have some weight ... one would have to look at the original video, and determine if the tracking there accounts for windshield grunge.

[Bill Ryan]

Did not do well in my science classes but anyway my thought:
- for an object at high speed to enter earth atmosphere it has to puncture at a more vertical angle than what the trajectory path appears in the video.


Actually, that's not the case. An object like an asteroid (God help us!) or meteor can enter the Earth's atmosphere at pretty much any angle at all.

But if it enters at a shallow angle, it hits a lot of atmosphere along the way (on its trajectory towards the ground) and is therefore more likely to burn up before it gets there. But a large object coming in vertically would just piledrive its way straight through the atmosphere and hit the ground big time.

I dunno Bill.. I thought the space shuttle came in at a shallow angle to reduce heat.... because if it came straight down it would get incinerated.


If a large rocky object came straight down (the Space Shuttle isn't the best example, because it would break up), it would certainly be heated up to a very high temperature very quickly -- but not for long, as it would hit the ground within seconds, and there would probably be enough left of it for the core to remain intact. (Remember that the atmosphere is only about 60 miles thick.)

On a longer 'burn' (such as a shallow angle in which the object would travel through the atmosphere for hundreds or even thousands of miles), the prolonged heat would be likely to completely destroy the object unless it was quite large.

Meanwhile, the Shuttle would come in at a very shallow angle, presenting its heat-tiled underbelly at an exactly calculated angle to the atmosphere, and while it also got extremely hot it would use the air resistance to brake its speed. The angle of entry was critical: too steep and it would burn up, too shallow and it would "bounce off", like a stone skipping across a pond.

[Wind]

I'm sure that many have seen the movie Deep Impact (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_%28film%29)?

The plot in the movie is really interesting, I kid you not. They try to destroy the big comet with nuclear bombs, but they end up splitting it.


Beck (a black president played by Morgan Freeman) announces the Messiah (a space ship sent to destroy the comet) crew’s failure, declares martial law and reveals that governments worldwide have been building underground shelters.

The Biederman fragment impacts in the Atlantic Ocean near Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, creating a megatsunami. Leo, Sarah, and her baby brother survive. Lerner, her father, Sarah's parents, and millions along the Atlantic coasts of North and South America, Europe, and Africa perish. The world braces for the impact of Wolf in western Canada, which will create a cloud of dust that will block out the sun for two years. This, in turn, will destroy most life on Earth. Low on fuel and life support, the crew of the Messiah decides to undertake a suicide mission with the remaining nuclear warheads. After saying goodbye to their loved ones by video conference, the ship reaches the fragment and enters a fissure to blow itself up, which breaks Wolf into much smaller pieces that burn up in Earth's atmosphere.

President Beck, speaking to a large crowd in front of the United States Capitol building, which is undergoing reconstruction, urges the nation and the world to continue their recovery.


Sounds really familiar, doesn't it? ;)

Funnily enough there was space probe launched on January 12, 2005 called Deep Impact (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_%28spacecraft%29). It was designed to study comets.

I've always remember this scene from the movie.

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[DeDukshyn]

I found this comment (user Doom2pro)on youtube regarding this video:

'By the way, watch the original video and it becomes really obvious what you are seeing, it's the gunge on the windshield causing optical distortion and reflections similar to a lens flair.
There is no object hitting the meteor, the meteor is passing by some crap on the windshield which is between the meteor and the camera.'

I haven't looked into it myself, but I think it is due diligence to do so before making any conclusions here.

Let's consider this.

First I'll dismiss the optical flare idea because grunge on a windshield can't cause that - only light sources can. I think what was meant was perhaps them apparent luminance of this piece of "grunge" - so let's assume that - this might be possible and valid.

It appears that even though the camera is tracking the object left to right - the piece of grunge is also moving left to right faster than the object. If I was tracking something left to right, any stationary object in my view would go right to left.

That said, I can also see this video has its own camera tracking (it's own zoomed track separate from the footage) and I cannot see the camera track of the camera because there is not enough in the scene, so the windshield grunge theory still may have some weight ... one would have to look at the original video, and determine if the tracking there accounts for windshield grunge.




here: the video in full res:
The car is making a right turn which would cause a piece of windshield gunk to track from left to right faster than the meteor as can be seen in the video.

I am satisfied this is what it is. In fact it is a bit obvious with the wide perspective I think. The event in question is at ~0:02

90Omh7_I8vI

[Hervé]

Did not do well in my science classes but anyway my thought:
- for an object at high speed to enter earth atmosphere it has to puncture at a more vertical angle than what the trajectory path appears in the video.


Actually, that's not the case. An object like an asteroid (God help us!) or meteor -- the difference between the two is just a matter of size -- can enter the Earth's atmosphere at pretty much any angle at all.

If it enters at a shallow angle, it hits a lot of atmosphere along the way (on its trajectory towards the ground) and is therefore more likely to burn up before it gets there. On the other hand, a large object coming in vertically would just piledrive its way straight through the atmosphere and impact the ground big time.

My guess of what AuCo is trying to say is that depending on a high velocity meteor and incidence angle, instead of slowing down and entering earth's atmosphere, said meteor would bounce off the atmosphere if the angle is shallow enough like with bouncing flat pebbles off a pond water surface ("grazer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Grazer)"). Getting similar to "reflection" vs. "refraction" in optics.

[GaelVictor]

The Russian air defence hit the meteor with an intercept missile similar to the American Patriot missile system, the S-300 or even the brandnew S-400 ; http://missilethreat.com/defense-systems/s-300p-sa-10-grumblesa-12-gargoyle/ , http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a93_1356512266

The traveling hight and angle of inpact on the meteor seems to match that of the Patriot missile; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMrugIQlzOk


*After seeing the HD version i have to agree it's glare from the windshield.

[RMorgan]

I found this comment (user Doom2pro)on youtube regarding this video:

'By the way, watch the original video and it becomes really obvious what you are seeing, it's the gunge on the windshield causing optical distortion and reflections similar to a lens flair.
There is no object hitting the meteor, the meteor is passing by some crap on the windshield which is between the meteor and the camera.'

I haven't looked into it myself, but I think it is due diligence to do so before making any conclusions here.

Let's consider this.

First I'll dismiss the optical flare idea because grunge on a windshield can cause that - only light sources can. I think what was meant was perhaps them apparent luminance of this piece of "grunge" - so let's assume that - this might be possible and valid.

It appears that even though the camera is tracking the object left to right - the piece of grunge is also moving left to right faster than the object. If I was tracking something left to right, any stationary object in my view would go right to left.

That said, I can also see this video has its own camera tracking (it's own zoomed track separate from the footage) and I cannot see the camera track of the camera because there is not enough in the scene, so the windshield grunge theory still may have some weight ... one would have to look at the original video, and determine if the tracking there accounts for windshield grunge.

here: the video in full res:
The car is making a right turn which would cause a piece of windshield gunk to track from left to right faster than the meteor as can be seen in the video.

I am satisfied this is what it is. In fact it is a bit obvious with the wide perspective I think. The event in question is at ~0:02

90Omh7_I8vI

I agree with you, DeDukshyn.

Watching this video in 1080p, it´s pretty clear that there´s no object impacting the meteor.

The effect was caused by light reflected in dirt/scratches on the car´s windshield.

This high-res video makes it much more clear indeed.

Cheers,

Raf.

[DeDukshyn]

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I agree with you, DeDukshyn.

Watching this video in 1080p, it´s pretty clear that there´s no object impacting the meteor.

The effect was caused by light reflected in dirt/scratches on the car´s windshield.

This high-res video makes it much more clear indeed.

Cheers,

Raf.


I find wide perspectives often "less deceiving" than the details ;) ( ... and I am talking about perspectives of perception in general -- not video clips ;))

[Bill Ryan]

I agree with you, DeDukshyn.

Watching this video in 1080p, it´s pretty clear that there´s no object impacting the meteor.

The effect was caused by light reflected in dirt/scratches on the car´s windshield.

This high-res video makes it much more clear indeed.

Cheers,

Raf.

I agree as well. :)

I watched it frame by frame at 1080p, and it seems clear it was a refractive speck on the car's windshield. Look very carefully, and it moves exactly with the car -- and, actually, the object doesn't explode until a few seconds later. It was a coincidence (another one!!) that the speck goes right through the object.

By the way, that was quite a video... imagine driving along the road and that happens right in front of you, staying exactly in your field of vision as you turn.

[Hervé]

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here: the video in full res:
The car is making a right turn which would cause a piece of windshield gunk to track from left to right faster than the meteor as can be seen in the video.

I am satisfied this is what it is. In fact it is a bit obvious with the wide perspective I think. The event in question is at ~0:02

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Perplexing... because, why would that particular piece of "gunk" appear on, then disappear off, the windshield?

[Hughe]

Escape velocity of rocket from Earth is around 11km/s. 39,600 km/h.
Speed of sound is mach 1 = 340.29 m / s.
Speed of fast missiles is around mach 5, 1.7km/s (340.29 m/s x 5)

Assuming the object was moving over 11 km/s, which is ten times faster than conventional missiles, could it be intercepted by a missile?
Big meteors that have enough mass to survive the burning during travel of atmosphere must make big holes on the ground.
Then photos of impact craters by the object should be released by now.

[DeDukshyn]

[...]

here: the video in full res:
The car is making a right turn which would cause a piece of windshield gunk to track from left to right faster than the meteor as can be seen in the video.

I am satisfied this is what it is. In fact it is a bit obvious with the wide perspective I think. The event in question is at ~0:02

[...]

Perplexing... because, why would that particular piece of "gunk" appear on, then disappear off, the windshield?

Same effect that if you have a windshield with bugs on it the windshield looks brighter when the sun is shining through it as opposed to it's normal clearness. Ever driven through the Canadian prairies into the sun at dusk? ;)

[Hervé]

[...]

Perplexing... because, why would that particular piece of "gunk" appear on, then disappear off, the windshield?


All right, the appearance and disappearance of the windshield "gunk" is symmetrical with respect to the "Fireball"... windshield "gunk" it is, IMO.

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Ever driven through the Canadian prairies into the sun at dusk? ;)

... in the summer... yes.

[RMorgan]

The most impressive thing is that the Russian guy driving the car just grumbles something, like he´s not impressed at all with a freaking big meteor! He doesn´t even reduces the driving speed! Russians are cold!

If it was an American, we would be hearing several OH MY GODs followed by at least a dozen of OH S#ITs and a couple of FU#Ks!

[KiwiElf]

Sidenote: I wondered how the original video of the meteor was so luckily captured, ie great coincidence or what? With a bit of digging I discovered many Russians use cams mounted on their car dashes due to the extraordinarily high accident rate & their lousy driving (ie proof to insurance companies).

[WhiteFeather]

Sidenote: I wondered how the original video of the meteor was so luckily captured, ie great coincidence or what? With a bit of digging I discovered many Russians use cams mounted on their car dashes due to the extraordinarily high accident rate & their lousy driving (ie proof to insurance companies).

They do have some good Wodka in Russia.

[Prodigal Son]

From what I'm seeing, the "speck on the windshield" turns into about 4 specks going off in different trajectories after it passes through the object!!

And then at the 1:09 mark, to the upper left of the bus stopped in traffic, in the blue sky there appears to be puffs of white smoke like artillery fire....

[WhiteFeather]

I find it highly coincidental that this meteor breaks up before striking the earth, seems like probable causation of an intervention to me whether ET or Government, As Im sticking with that theory. Im not convinced of the speck on the windshield. Something definitely hit this meteor before it came plunging to the ground in one solid mass. Sorry Folks,,,, That meteor literally blew up right before impact. What are the chances?

[Prodigal Son]

I find it highly coincidental that this meteor breaks up before striking the earth, seems like probable causation of an intervention to me whether ET or Government, As Im sticking with that theory. Im not convinced of the speck on the windshield. Something definitely hit this meteor before it came plunging to the ground in one solid mass. Sorry Folks,,,, That meteor literally blew up right before impact. What are the chances?
I'm going to go out on a limb in complete ignorance and say that whatever hit that thing broke it up into a few smaller pieces that continued pretty much parallel to each other... and that the smaller pieces burned up all at once in a more dense part of the atmosphere.... otherwise it would have cut out another Tunguska crater or worse..... which by the way I think was a Tesla experiment !!

[RMorgan]

I find it highly coincidental that this meteor breaks up before striking the earth, seems like probable causation of an intervention to me whether ET or Government, As Im sticking with that theory. Im not convinced of the speck on the windshield. Something definitely hit this meteor before it came plunging to the ground in one solid mass. Sorry Folks,,,, That meteor literally blew up right before impact. What are the chances?
I'm going to go out on a limb in complete ignorance and say that whatever hit that thing broke it up into a few smaller pieces that continued pretty much parallel to each other... and that the smaller pieces burned up all at once in a more dense part of the atmosphere.... otherwise it would have cut out another Tunguska crater or worse..... which by the way I think was a Tesla experiment !!

Tunguska meteor was estimated to be 100m wide, impacting with a 15 to 30 megaton blast. Totally different from this one, which was only about 15m wide.

By the way, small meteoroids like this one usually start breaking up right when they enter our atmosphere; They are extremely cold, but when they enter out atmosphere, they are heated to extremely hot temperatures; This absurd temperature shock causes them break up.

[KiwiElf]

The Tunguska meteor was also controversial with some eyewitnesses at the time claiming it was doing turns before it exploded. No significant fragments of that one have ever been found and the area is still slightly "radiated".
- Sachs, 1977 "The Tunguska Incident"


1908: Huge explosion in Tunguska, Siberia which lays waste to tens of square miles of forest. Eyewitnesses describe huge, bright object in the sky making "turns" prior to explosion in mid-air. (The debris field is reminiscent of Hiroshima).

And quote from here...
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30004-History-Amended-100-Years-of-Deception

[johnf]

I don't find the breaking up up this meteor to be unusual.
I was under one once that came down in a shallow angle. I was at a high school football game , and the audience went silent.
It made a lot of noise as it came in shooting off a lot of sparks, but no visible peices.
Big rocks like that are not going to be the same composition all the way through, and I would think a huge one would have natural fracture lines that would go mostly from the heat, and be helped by the impact with the air it compresses when it runs into it.
But anyway, that is one clear memory compared to many others I have. It was a pretty rare event.
I am starting to wonder if this sort of thing is going to be less rare in the future, and would like to see more conversations in here about whether we are passing through a section off space that has more of these things in it, etc.
If we are heading into a period where this happens more often, it is an area that is ripe for spin and manipulation.

[norman]

Has it been nailed yet that several of these happened within less than 24 hours ?

[johnf]

Has it been nailed yet that several of these happened within less than 24 hours ?

Yes, I think this thread covers the idea pretty well

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55967-Speculating-Global-Meteors-Space-Based-Weapons-Current-Struggle-for-Financial-Systems-Related&p=637437&highlight=meteor+shot+space#post637437

[Conaire]

This is pretty amazing. What I am wondering about is whoever is responsible, Russians, E.Ts, whoever, they have some amazing technology to be able to chase down and over take something flying at 3 miles a second. They surely could have detected the meteorite coming in and could have destroyed it outside our atmosphere. Why wait until it was in our sky before hitting it. Was it because they, whoever they are, wanted to be be seen? Very interesting indeed.

[ghostrider]

It was uncle GR in his x-wing fighter, huh ? Gotcha made you laugh ... I wish.. too much invested in earth by ET's , nothing will happen unless the guardians allow it ... a water world that sustains so much diverse life is rare in our neck of the woods ... We have too many visiting ET's , any one of which would glady protect the experiment, even at their own peril ... earth is 626 billion years old , it would take way too long to make another one just like it ...

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

Lets be realistic about this.

I 100% believe that there were people that knew this was on it's way, way before it happened. Opportunity knocks or experimental crap and theres cash/experiments/chessboard moves/false flag arrangements/devastation worshipers/white hats/ and the list goes on and on. Result was probably very boring and a waste of a chance to many and maybe a success. Considering that we only have speculative reports to fiddle with.

Maybe Jack Bauer intercepted it... or even better Bruce Willis or some unbeknown ruling bloodline master is indeed actually scattered into a gazillion pieces over the impact area after they'd tied him to this experiment and this was an act of bloodline muscle flexing ....

All these events have some meaning to them. Being intercepted by aliens is on my most highly unlikely list. This is just putting ourselves into the category of being a wishful needy race. Saved again type of thinking.

Lets not forget that this might not of even been what we thought it was. I watched a Japanese show last night that had some guy visit the lake area of the said impact that is snow riddled and any particles would be easily visible and all he could find was
a tiny particle that he displayed with an open palm. Tiny enough to hide under a finger nail. Thats it. Thats all thats left.

Anyway going way off track at Avalon gives me great opportunity for creativity and thats very important to me.

So I'll finish with what I think really happened. Rock coming and it'll penetrate the atmosphere and hit ground. They blow it to pieces with new technology as an exercise and it was a success. Maybe there was a riff about whom would use the technology first and Russia got the chance which personally indicates that the USA will indeed want to demonstrate an even bigger event using the same technology and thus we have one more coming to the US and although this might look like kids with toys. In actual fact it's all part of a much larger agenda thats as usual pre-planned with beautifully orchestrated events.

Expect more dazzling displays ...

[aranuk]

The Russian air defence hit the meteor with an intercept missile similar to the American Patriot missile system, the S-300 or even the brandnew S-400 ; http://missilethreat.com/defense-systems/s-300p-sa-10-grumblesa-12-gargoyle/ , http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a93_1356512266

The traveling hight and angle of inpact on the meteor seems to match that of the Patriot missile; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMrugIQlzOk


*After seeing the HD version i have to agree it's glare from the windshield.

I remember in the first gulf war that Saddam's skud missiles were only hit by two Patriot missiles and that most of the skuds were delivered and exploded in Israel.


Stan

[GoodETxSG]

Thank you KiwiElf,
Yes, I do think there were "UFO's" of OUR's up at the time of the incidents. There is always a presence up there and it is pretty active. I have no idea how they think they are going to send paying civilians into space without them seeing advanced Earth based technology or that of others. If there was a conflict I do believe it was between Earth cultures... it was all too crude to be from a seriously advanced race... IMHO that is.

I appreciate you pointing out my speculations. I have to admit I was a bit surprised that my thread was not viewed more. But I realize I am new at posting and have to earn some respect. If the info I received was anywhere close to correct we should see some signs of it leaking out soon enough making a revisit to the Thread worth the read.




I recommend GoodeTXSG's post here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55967-Speculating-Global-Meteors-Space-Based-Weapons-Current-Struggle-for-Financial-Systems-Related

Speculation it may be, but it makes the most sense IMO. Cheers ;)

[Hervé]

CGI of meteorite's path:


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As for the psy-ops spinners, some thoughts for food:



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Did Russian early-warning system see the meteorite? (http://russianforces.org/blog/2013/02/did_russian_early-warning_syst.shtml)

If you are coming from the Drudge Report, please note that the headline there is a bit misleading. Russian radars didn't really "fail" to see the meteorite - I don't think you could fail in something that you had no intention of doing.

Traffic is a bit heavier than usual today, so this page is a light version of the original entry.

Image of radar fans and the meteorite trajectory (http://russianforces.org/assets_c/2013/02/Chelyabinsk_EW-thumb-520x343-194.png)
The meteorite that exploded over Chelyabinsk on February 15, 2013, was a pretty big thing - NASA estimated (http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroidwatch/newsfeatures.cfm?release=2013-061) that it was about 15-17 meters in size and weighed 7-10 thousand tonnes. Surely it should have been detected by someone. Quite a few commentators in Russia indeed asked why the country needs all these early-warning radars if they could not detect something that large and threatening - it's worth keeping in mind that the explosion that accompanied disintegration of the meteorite was equivalent to about 500 kt.

As far as I can tell, the early-warning radars never had a chance, but it wasn't their fault - the problem was that they were never supposed to detect objects that are coming from outer space. The picture above shows the estimated trajectory of the meteorite and fans of the Daryal radar in Pechora and Dnepr in Mishelevka. The fan of the Don-2N radar of the Moscow missile defense system can be seen as well (for other radars, see this post (http://russianforces.org/blog/2013/01/status_of_the_russian_early-warning.shtml)). It's better to see this in Goolge Earth - here is the kmz file (http://russianforces.org/ChelyabinskMeteoriteWeb.kmz).

I assumed for simplicity that the meteorite flew along a straight line - that's not quite correct, but should work for the purposes of this analysis. The AGI simulation (http://blogs.agi.com/agi/2013/02/15/russian-meteor-crash-animation-from-agi-unrelated-to-asteroid-2012-da14-close-approach/) of the trajectory based on the Meteosat-9 data shows that the meteorite came from the azimuth of about 60 degrees (they got the meteorite path wrong, in fact - it passed to the south of Chelyabinsk, not to the north). A different estimate (http://ogleearth.com/2013/02/reconstructing-the-chelyabinsk-meteors-path-with-google-earth-youtube-and-high-school-math/) suggests that the azimuth could be about 100 degrees, but that doesn't matter much in the end. The re-entry angle is taken to be about 15 degrees - this is what various photos show.

As can be seen from the picture, the meteorite was out of the field of view of the Pechora radar and it was below the horizon as seen from Moscow, so the Don-2N radar could not see it either. The Dnepr radar in Mishelevka might have detected the meteorite if it looked up, but it didn't - as an early-warning radar its mission is to search the narrow strip of space just above the horizon, which a ballistic missile would cross if it ever comes. They don't (and shouldn't) much care about anything else. These radars are not supposed to search the entire sky on a continuous basis - it would be a waste of energy and would decrease the effective detection range. An early-warning radar could see objects at higher elevations (up to 34.5 degrees in the case of Dnepr) and does so if it is asked to track a satellite. But you have to ask and since nobody saw the meteorite coming nobody did.

The Google Earth file (http://russianforces.org/ChelyabinskMeteoriteWeb.kmz) also includes a fan of the Krasnoyarsk radar, which was supposed to close the proverbial "Eastern gap" in the Soviet early-warning radar coverage. As one can see, that radar would not have been able to see the meteorite either.

The bottom line is that there is nothing wrong with the Russian early-warning system. The reason the meteorite was not detected by the Russian early-warning radars is very simple - it was not a ballistic missile.

It still leaves an interesting question - what happens if you see a 500-kt explosion on (or above) your soil and have no idea what it is and where it came from. I guess we know now what the Russians do - they would rush to upload their dashboard camera videos to YouTube.


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[ghostrider]

I was thinking, could this have been the hologram technology ??? I mean Nasa tracks meteors, all the satelites in space, missle defense , star wars, they didn't warn anyone in Russian , hey you might want to take cover if yo live in this area... something moving over 33,000 mph and headed toward us ??? some people in russia just so happened to have their cameras rolling in just right part of the sky, at just the right moment on just the right day and it quickly made the mainstream news ...I 'll just take out my android and put it in video mode and hold in up and record this part of the sky on my way to work and just wait and see what happens ...hmmmm ???

[Tesseract]

I just spent my evening calculating the kiloton yield equivalent of the Chelyabinsk meteor event based on media reports of velocity and size. I started with the 10 ton 30 km/s claim that I heard originally, and I came up with a number of 1.075 kton which is only about 0.0827 times the little boy bomb (taken to be 13 kton). I went back and calculated the relativistic kinetic energy and also the released chemical energy (assuming the body was pure iron and combusted into rust on the way down) - still came up way short.

Then I found this article ( http://www.theage.com.au/technology/sci-tech/meteor-travelling-at-18-kilometres-per-second-released-about-33-times-the-energy-of-the-hiroshima-atomic-bomb-20130218-2em5w.html ) which explained the '30 x hiroshima' was based on 10000 ton and 18 km/s. Using these figures I was able to re-calculate and corroborate this value which is based on the kinetic energy of the incoming meteor via E = [mc^2/(sqrt[1-(v^2/C^2)])]-mc^2 simplified to E = 1/2mV^2 if you ignore relativistic effects which is fine for these cosmic tortoises :)

As I was trying to find out if i had done the calcs correctly I discovered this fantastic website: it allows you to calculate energy of a meteor, break up altitude, airburst altitude and so on: http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/cgi-bin/crater.cgi?dist=10&diam=2%2C673009&pdens=1000&pdens_select=0&vel=30&theta=90&tdens=3000&tdens_select=0

If you play around you can see which input values best predict what actually happened over Russia. You can also see the statistical frequency of the event type that you input.

Full paper on their methods is here:

http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEffects/effects.pdf

[Mulder]

I have evidence this whole incident is (yet another) hoax. This evidence is the youtube video - this video shows the presumably "real" video and how it was altered to show the "weapon" strike... IMO this is a mind-control dis-info operation by unidentified people, for their own reasons or entertainment..

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[panopticon]

As I was trying to find out if i had done the calcs correctly I discovered this fantastic website: it allows you to calculate energy of a meteor, break up altitude, airburst altitude and so on: http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/cgi-bin/crater.cgi?dist=10&diam=2%2C673009&pdens=1000&pdens_select=0&vel=30&theta=90&tdens=3000&tdens_select=0

If you play around you can see which input values best predict what actually happened over Russia. You can also see the statistical frequency of the event type that you input.


It's a good little program that one isn't it.
There's a flash version of it here:
http://www.purdue.edu/impactearth
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

[Tangri]

Did not do well in my science classes but anyway my thought:
- for an object at high speed to enter earth atmosphere it has to puncture at a more vertical angle than what the trajectory path appears in the video.


Actually, that's not the case. An object like an asteroid (God help us!) or meteor -- the difference between the two is just a matter of size -- can enter the Earth's atmosphere at pretty much any angle at all.

If it enters at a shallow angle, it hits a lot of atmosphere along the way (on its trajectory towards the ground) and is therefore more likely to burn up before it gets there. On the other hand, a large object coming in vertically would just piledrive its way straight through the atmosphere and impact the ground big time.

I will remind you that the object coming from North east direction, and try to imagine it's supposedly trajectory, should it be vertical or oblique?

[Hughe]

Here (http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerrys-blog/1565-russia-missle-hits-meteor-video) is another take. Meteor bomb is logical weapon of choice of military forces who possess space travel technology.
A meteor is being toed and dropped at a specific point to use as a guided bomb.

Are the Russian media blacked out?

[kanishk]

As I was trying to find out if i had done the calcs correctly I discovered this fantastic website: it allows you to calculate energy of a meteor, break up altitude, airburst altitude and so on: http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/cgi-bin/crater.cgi?dist=10&diam=2%2C673009&pdens=1000&pdens_select=0&vel=30&theta=90&tdens=3000&tdens_select=0

If you play around you can see which input values best predict what actually happened over Russia. You can also see the statistical frequency of the event type that you input.


It's a good little program that one isn't it.
There's a flash version of it here:
http://www.purdue.edu/impactearth
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

What are the data inputs available for this indecent for using these calculators

[PRAGMAE]

It's funny but I don't see the same thing on this video. For me something is going out of the meteorite, like some ships. And they are going twice the speed of the meteorite.

[The Truth Is In There]

really bad job for a ufo. if anything hit the meteorite it was man-made. i don't believe our "space brothers" would wait until a meteorite gets so close to the ground before doing something about it..and then botch it up. they'd probably turn it into dust or thin air...if they gave a damn, that is.

[panopticon]

What are the data inputs available for this indecent for using these calculators

G'day Kanishk,

Diameter: Varied estimates 15m (http://www.livescience.com/27188-russian-meteor-explosion-faq.html) to 17m (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323764804578312264130040432.html).
Density: Stoney Material (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323764804578312264130040432.html).
Impact Angle: Calculations vary for azimuth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuth) (60 to 100 degrees see Amzer Zo's post above) but re-entry angle is thought to have been between 15 degrees and 20 degrees.
Impact Velocity: This has varied since it was first reported as being 30 kilometres per second down to as low as 18 km per second (http://wiki.nasa.gov/cm/blog/Watch%20the%20Skies/posts/post_1360985685055.html).
Target Type: Don't know what the ground is like in Chelyabinsk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk).

Hope this helps.
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

[panopticon]

So I plugged in the following variables:


Diameter: 17m
Density: 3000 kg/m^3 (dense rock)
Angle: 15 degrees
Velocity: 30 km/sec
Target: Sedimentary Rock
Distance from impact: 20 km


And the calculation was pretty well identical to observations.

Atmospheric Entry
The projectile begins to breakup at an altitude of 63100 meters = 207000 ft.
The projectile bursts into a cloud of fragments at an altitude of 38000 meters = 125000 ft.
The residual velocity of the projectile fragments after the burst is 25.4 km/s = 15.7 miles/s.
The energy of the airburst is 9.92 x 10^14 Joules = 0.24 x 10^0 MegaTons.
No crater is formed, although large fragments may strike the surface.

Energy
Energy before atmospheric entry: 3.47 x 10^15 Joules = 829.62 KiloTons TNT

The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 95.3 years

Air Blast
The air blast will arrive approximately 2.17 minutes after impact.
Peak Overpressure: 126 Pa = 0.00126 bars = 0.0179 psi
Max wind velocity: 0.298 m/s = 0.666 mph
Sound Intensity: 42 dB (Easily Heard)

There were no other effects.

Remember that the damage caused in Chelyabinsk was from the sonic booms not from an impact event.
Pretty impressive little calculator.
-- Pan

[Nanoo Nanoo]

the missile object that appraently hits the meteor wasnt in the original footage ... or at least i cant see it ..

hmm

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[Hervé]

It's funny but I don't see the same thing on this video. For me something is going out of the meteorite, like some ships. And they are going twice the speed of the meteorite.

It seems that, that which you are referring to is a windshield "gunk" which was then "mirrored" about the fireball to make it appear as a "before" and "after" effect with explosion added in the hoax video.

[Prodigal Son]

It's funny but I don't see the same thing on this video. For me something is going out of the meteorite, like some ships. And they are going twice the speed of the meteorite.

It seems that, that which you are referring to is a windshield "gunk" which was then "mirrored" about the fireball to make it appear as a "before" and "after" effect with explosion added in the hoax video. Even on that "real" video, the "original" one, I can see some sparks flying out of the object, but it is not zoomed in. How can we compare a view that is not zoomed in with one that is? I like Mike Adams, but I'm not convinced yet that it was a hoax. If it was windshield gunk there would be those anomalies and reflections in other parts of the video, but there isn't. Something struck that thing from the left side and came out the other side in 3 or 4 pieces... even on the "undoctored original".

[Hervé]

[...]

If it was windshield gunk there would be those anomalies and reflections in other parts of the video, but there isn't. Something struck that thing from the left side and came out the other side in 3 or 4 pieces... even on the "undoctored original".

Go back to post #51 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55981-Did-A-UFO-Intervene-Destroying-Russian-Meteor&p=637785&viewfull=1#post637785) and the HD wide angle view of the whole event and you may notice that the "object" moves in complete unison with the other "gunks" on the windshield.

[GoodETxSG]

The video's I have seen were of a frozen lake impact, was this from another part of the Meteorite that split off in the mid air explosion? Has anyone else heard anything on this?

Russian meteor crash site video 2 15.2.2013 | impact crash hit crater place

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This one I hadn't seen...

Meteorite impact site in Chelyabinsk

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Published on Feb 15, 2013
In the skies over the Chelyabinsk February 15 at about 9:30 local time, an explosion occurred. According to MOE, over the region was a meteor rain. Space monitoring devices before the explosion recorded activity in the lower atmosphere.

[Hervé]

The video's I have seen were of a frozen lake impact, was this from another part of the Meteorite that split off in the mid air explosion?

Meteorite impact site in Chelyabinsk

[...]

That's a video of a burning pit -- like a burning peat bog -- that has been burning for years and palmed off as meteorite impact... Gootubers having a ball!

See "Burning crater of Darvaza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Crater_of_Darvaza)":

"Door to Hell" gas deposit
Main article: Door to Hell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_to_Hell)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/The_Door_to_Hell.jpg/800px-The_Door_to_Hell.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/The_Door_to_Hell.jpg)
The deposit as seen at night, 2010




http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Darvasa_gas_crater_panorama.jpg/800px-Darvasa_gas_crater_panorama.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Darvasa_gas_crater_panorama.jpg)
Panorama of the crater site, 2011.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Darvaza.PNG (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Darvaza.PNG)
Distant view of the deposit


The Derweze area is rich in natural gas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas). While drilling in 1971, Soviet geologists tapped into a cavern filled with natural gas.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Crater_of_Darvaza#cite_note-1) The ground beneath the drilling rig collapsed, leaving a large hole with a diameter of 70 metres (230 ft) at 40°15′10″N 58°26′22″E / 40.25264°N 58.43941°E / 40.25264; 58.43941 (The Gates of Hell) (http://toolserver.org/~geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Derweze&params=40.25264_N_58.43941_E_type:landmark&title=The+Gates+of+Hell).

To avoid poisonous gas discharge, it was decided the best solution was to burn it off.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Crater_of_Darvaza#cite_note-2) Geologists had hoped the fire would use all the fuel in a matter of days, but the gas is still burning today (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_flame). Locals have dubbed the cavern "The Door to Hell".[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Crater_of_Darvaza#cite_note-3)

[GoodETxSG]

Thank you,
I appreciate the info. I was perplexed when I saw this video. It is amazing how many ways DISINFO can be injected into every topic no matter how pure the intent. This is why research and triple verification of info is paramount. I should have researched it further before posting.
:(


The video's I have seen were of a frozen lake impact, was this from another part of the Meteorite that split off in the mid air explosion?

Meteorite impact site in Chelyabinsk

[...]

That's a video of a burning pit -- like a burning peat bog -- that has been burning for years and palmed off as meteorite impact... Gootubers having a ball!

See "Burning crater of Darvaza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Crater_of_Darvaza)":

"Door to Hell" gas deposit
Main article: Door to Hell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_to_Hell)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/The_Door_to_Hell.jpg/800px-The_Door_to_Hell.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/The_Door_to_Hell.jpg)
The deposit as seen at night, 2010




http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Darvasa_gas_crater_panorama.jpg/800px-Darvasa_gas_crater_panorama.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Darvasa_gas_crater_panorama.jpg)
Panorama of the crater site, 2011.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Darvaza.PNG (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Darvaza.PNG)
Distant view of the deposit


The Derweze area is rich in natural gas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas). While drilling in 1971, Soviet geologists tapped into a cavern filled with natural gas.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Crater_of_Darvaza#cite_note-1) The ground beneath the drilling rig collapsed, leaving a large hole with a diameter of 70 metres (230 ft) at 40°15′10″N 58°26′22″E / 40.25264°N 58.43941°E / 40.25264; 58.43941 (The Gates of Hell) (http://toolserver.org/~geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Derweze&params=40.25264_N_58.43941_E_type:landmark&title=The+Gates+of+Hell).

To avoid poisonous gas discharge, it was decided the best solution was to burn it off.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Crater_of_Darvaza#cite_note-2) Geologists had hoped the fire would use all the fuel in a matter of days, but the gas is still burning today (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_flame). Locals have dubbed the cavern "The Door to Hell".[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Crater_of_Darvaza#cite_note-3)

[GoodETxSG]

This is a post from Bill's good friend Kerry. I hope its okay I quote her here (Still in the learning process on Forum etiquette).


RUSSIA: MISSLE HITS METEOR - VIDEO
Monday, 18 February 2013 20:42
Written by Kerry Cassidy
RUSSIA: MISSLE HITS METEOR - VIDEO
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As stated in my previous posts on the missle / meteor dilemma in Russia... this seems to validate that theory.

Regardless, what people don't realize is that using incoming meteors and asteroids as targets or spears with which to hit targets was a common occurence in space war scenarios. Which means that when you see incoming objects they may look natural but be on an accelerated trajectory because they are being used as objects of destruction... This can be done by space faring nations to make a point or threaten Earth inhabitants. There is a lot of evidence that this is how Atlantis was sunk. It was hit by a meteor that was SENT in the direction of Earth and guided here... Turning the natural object into a missle in essence.

Now who shot the meteor into the airspace and who shot it down blowing it into a bunch of fragments I don't know. Logically the shoot down came from the Russian military. Interestingly, this was what was stated in the very first report by RT.com (see my prior posts on this)...

BTW, I am aware that some are saying the object isn't a meteor.. but then what is it? Obviously it was hit and broke into pieces... whatever it is.

http://youtu.be/WaQIPBqoQ-Q

And here is one of the impact sites:

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[Hervé]

Oh, well... take your pick between ignorance or a "little white lie" to support one's own theory, you know, like Al Gore and flatulence generated "Global Warming"... all trying to fit data into the theories... or square pegs into round holes or vice versa.

[korgh]

After read a lot about these theories and all data around, i have to agree with Amzer Zo.
The only thing known capable to hit the meteor is:

http://i49.tinypic.com/2gsj33a.jpg

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

PGS, or prompt global strike,
is a weapons system similar in its destructive capacity to the nuclear bomb,
but is comprised of conventional weaponry instead of nuclear material.

i.e. earthquake weapon, rods from god, etc. tungsten rods the size of telephone poles in low earth orbit, trained onto targets already.

Imagine a huge grid of undeclared satellites orbiting at low height, an entire fleet of metal rods waiting to strike predestined targets.

that is the evil of PGS.

discussed by our congress/senate the very week of the 3/11/11 event in Japan.
Japan was encountering a low gravity anomaly over the sea basin before and during the quake.
also there is the possibility that something struck the ocean rather than coming from beneath it during that tsunami and quake.

tell me, does a shock wave travel underwater?
imagine a shock wave with the punch of a nuclear blast hitting the ocean floor and generating a series of waves.

[AuCo]

Did not do well in my science classes but anyway my thought:
- for an object at high speed to enter earth atmosphere it has to puncture at a more vertical angle than what the trajectory path appears in the video.
- if it was meant to shoot at a meteor it did a rather poor job.
However,...
:o

Since the implication of something other than an actual meteor should not be leisurely ignored therefore if I may, would like to re-iterate. The probable angle of meteor impact is roughly 45 degrees (thus majority of craters are round). The original video in post #1 shows the trajectory almost horizontal (someone mentioned 15 degrees - look at 28 and 48 secs in video of post #41) would have produced an elongated crater, not one like in post #67. Besides, for a meteor to impact at such an angle (15 degree), the angle of entry (attacking angle) must have been way too small; trajectory is curved towards ground. Notice the reported direction of entry (post 48) is opposite to the Earth rotation which makes it even more improbable.

If the original video is authentic, it does look (to me) something else did hit the object. If the hit was meant to destroy the object it did not do it properly (given the current weaponry publicly known). The hit did not really deflect the main object nor break it up - same plume of smoke. The debris from the hit could have been from the object coming from behind. Now, why is that?

PS. Sorry guys, for not knowing how best to link different posts together.

[AuCo]

yikes! double posted :o

[doodah]

This discussion has reminded me of some things said about Tunguska in an interview that Bill and Kerry did with Valery Uvarov for the original Project Camelot. I'll paste in below some text from that interview. It's not sounding like an exact match to the recent Russian meteor incident, but still, if it wasn't windshield gunk in the video...

V: [re Tunguska] Yeah, it was a meteorite. But this meteorite was carrying a dangerous bacteria. And somebody shot it down, destroyed it. And they did it many, many times. And they do it each century for a few times.

When I was investigating, you know, the documents, I found a very interesting story. Listen. Shortly:

When Stalin had learned about Tunguska case, and especially Lavrenty Beria -- a very, very special man who was objective to investigate and to influence the development of nuclear weapons in Russia at that time -- he has got an information about an unusual event then, looking like a nuclear explosion, but took place in 1908.

So when they have investigated pictures, they sent an expedition, military expedition, to that area. And this military expedition was in, well, civil dress. They had only one task -- to get information.

And now look, when they asked some people in the area of the explosion, people said… Very, very shortly after explosion, local indigenous people saw a group of strange "visitors" having very highly-developed equipment on them -- from 1908 -- investigating soils. So they saw them.

Tell me, who they were? Very highly-equipped people from 1908? Who they were? It's just a short beginning. But at the same time, I can tell you, the reality is amazing. Amazing.

There is somebody who is preserving the planet Earth. Because of this meteorite having a dangerous bacteria, somebody have created… not like constructed… what I personally call like an installation. Part of this installation is in Siberia, and it's active.

On the other hand, and I'm very sorry about it, one of the device having close connection to this installation is situated in China. And China already found it, and they are investigating it.

[...]

B: I have just a question. When you were talking about the installation, I had one or two questions about that. It felt as if there was more that you could have said about where it is, how it works, and how it was discovered.

V: Yes. Good questions. OK. Well, where is these?

What we have here, now I would like to point out in our dimension. There are a few physical devices. It's a huge devices. They're under the ground.

These physical devices are generating at a certain moment. When a meteorite carrying a dangerous bacteria appears somewhere over the planet, the system starts to prepare. Usually it starts approximately half an hour before.

At this moment, strange vibrations in the Earth, like small or tiny earthquakes, starts. Strange sounds from under the ground. And then people describe, like… And I gave this description in the NEXUS Magazine, by the way, translated into English.

They have been spread, [meshes his fingers together] like kind of things, metallic leaks, were opened in the ground. And I'm calling this "Terminators." The big light-balls -- some of them were approximately 50 to 60 meters in diameter -- were flying out from the ground.

B: These were observed?

V: Yes. Local indigenous people, they all was talking it. Hundreds of them. They have seen hundreds. Hundreds of them.

But most part of them were generated not in our dimension -- in parallel dimension. They come in here from parallel dimensions.

K: And how do you reach this conclusion?

V: Because of, they… It's easy. It's easy. There are places where people described, they witness vibration of the Earth, opened. Things like this. The movement. Strange sounds, you know, like earthquakes, like a real mechanism is working. OK?

There are other places, nothing like this, just from the ground, just a light, like a beam of light, appear. And, you know, like in a fairytale, something appear here.

It's not generated in the Earth. It appear from something, like from parallel dimension. You know, like UFO goes: Here? Or is it here? It stands here. And then…then nothing. The same thing here. Come on. It's parallel dimension.

K: OK. I see.

B: There would have to be a number of these installations all over the planet in order to cover the Earth from such impacts from every direction, wouldn't there?

V: Right.

B: There would have to be… I'm just trying to kind of figure out in my mind… There would have to be several dozen.

V: Right. So. What I can tell you about this now… There were some of them in Australia. They were, I will say, they were already used. They do not work anymore but you can find something there.

Some, already used, are in China. Most part of active are in two places -- in Siberia, and near Easter Island, under the water; there, but those ones under the water. In Siberia, we have it here, on top of the Earth.

B: Are there in any North America as well?

V: Now? Not. They were. Long, long ago they were. Now, not.

B: So this is an ancient technology to protect the planet.

V: I wouldn't say ancient. I would say these installations started to constructed, you know, to build, maybe 17 - 18,000 years ago. But during these thousands of years ago, these installations were developed, continually developed. And those who lived on Mars and Maldek before, they started to do it.

But there were other people, I would say visitors, who continued to develop it. And I would say it… Well, it's just the beginning of the story.

[...]

It's an amazing story. The whole story around Tunguska case is amazing. And what I'm sure, that these Terminators, these light-balls, they were flying all over.

You can see them even over America. Sure, even now, if kind of meteorite is flying in direction over America, and if it's about to hit the ground over America, you will see.

But people mostly see it, they think this is UFO. But it's not UFO. It's Terminator flying. And usually, if it's a Terminator, it's always connected with a strange effect, or with a kind of explosion. First you see this ball. Then maybe 3, 4 minutes, strange explosion and light. You know, like lightning. The sky is lightning.

[...]

[KiwiElf]

Very interesting info re Tunguska doodah.

Somewhat "hidden investigations" re-concluded that the so-called "meteorite" was actually an atomic-powered craft weighing over 25,000 tons, which exploded approx 3 miles up (ie witnesses saw a mushroom cloud after the explosion, night turned to day for several days, 1,000 square miles of the area is still radiated (higher than normal radiation levels in trees, soil plants & ash, and it's flight path made an abrupt U-turn from Eastward to Westward just before it exploded).

Particle analysis could not be identified as meteoric in origin but contained small amounts of metals, including copper and germanium (important in the construction of electrical equipment). The whole area was extraordinarily reminiscent of Hiroshima & Nagasaki.

When it first overflew the Gobi desert, China, witnesses described it as "cylindrical in shape, with multi-coloured smoke exiting from the rear".

[Sidney]

The video's I have seen were of a frozen lake impact, was this from another part of the Meteorite that split off in the mid air explosion? Has anyone else heard anything on this?

Russian meteor crash site video 2 15.2.2013 | impact crash hit crater place

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This one I hadn't seen...

Meteorite impact site in Chelyabinsk

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Published on Feb 15, 2013
In the skies over the Chelyabinsk February 15 at about 9:30 local time, an explosion occurred. According to MOE, over the region was a meteor rain. Space monitoring devices before the explosion recorded activity in the lower atmosphere.

I don't know if anyone else stated this, but IMHO, if a meteorite came down and hit the ice as shown in that picture/vid, #1, I don't think it would leave a perfectly round hole. #2 I think something that big coming down at such speed, would have caused much more disruption of the ice, via a huge wave, or huge cracks all around. I 'm not sure, but my gut tells me "something" is "OFF" about that.

[KiwiElf]

After read a lot about these theories and all data around, i have to agree with Amzer Zo.
The only thing known capable to hit the meteor is:

http://i49.tinypic.com/2gsj33a.jpg

... and Project Pegasus, plus our alleged "secret space force" - check it out (but STAR TREK technology isn't far wrong ;))

[CeltMan]

That the meteor was indeed destroyed by E.T's, - as a wake up call,-to humankind- is what we were told at weekend- in London.

+ the lightening strike on the Basilika after the Pope's resignation announcement,- another 'wake up call//sign'.

[Sesan]

My first post in a long time. With black ops technology being decades, if not centuries ahead of mainstream science, if there were going to be any attempts at shooting apart earth bound objects, wouldn't one do this far out in space? Why wait until the object has entered our atmosphere? This would make no sense to me whatsoever. Unless of course the objective was to have people watch in terror?? The United States Space Command fellows have the resources to intercept objects many, many, many miles out. Rail guns, missiles, nuclear, lasers......these are childs play compared to what they have now.
Just my two cents.
:cool:

[passiglight]

What up dudes """


That the meteor was indeed destroyed by E.T's, - as a wake up call,-to humankind- is what we were told at weekend- in London.

+ the lightening strike on the Basilika after the Pope's resignation announcement,- another 'wake up call//sign'.

I am in total agreement with these brave words, the windshield gunk didn't take it down, for sure.
However, there is much galactic noise regarding the disabling of this and many other past and present meteorites and i resonate with the material i have read regarding this.

ditto popes lightning strike and the taking down of the rest of the roman mafioso cabal,...

i read also there could well be some more cosmic fairground activity over next week or so..

Only my opinion ,,, of course..

Cosmic Love hybrid hues..

[KiwiElf]

Interesting that this scenario of a future global catastrophe was all insightfully hinted at in "Alternative 3"

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[korgh]

After read a lot about these theories and all data around, i have to agree with Amzer Zo.
The only thing known capable to hit the meteor is:

http://i49.tinypic.com/2gsj33a.jpg

... and Project Pegasus, plus our alleged "secret space force" - check it out (but STAR TREK technology isn't far wrong ;))

Yep, even considering all projects and all obscure "task forces" with extreme technology surrounding our lifes , the weaponry or whatever who hit the meteor was invisible or cloaked.
I saw the images and some material posted more than once and like Bill said: "it seems clear it was a refractive speck on the car's windshield".
If not, and maybe i'm wrong, based in the angle of projectile hitting the target (meteor) once again the "weapon" is invisible.

Well... i only know one machine perfect to do this job.

Invisible
Powerful
Hi-Tech
Good enough to hit some wild meteors

This one!

http://i50.tinypic.com/25spqav.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/35d9oq8.png

Last time seen at San Francisco fishing some whales :)

[panopticon]

Since the implication of something other than an actual meteor should not be leisurely ignored therefore if I may, would like to re-iterate. The probable angle of meteor impact is roughly 45 degrees (thus majority of craters are round). The original video in post #1 shows the trajectory almost horizontal (someone mentioned 15 degrees - look at 28 and 48 secs in video of post #41) would have produced an elongated crater, not one like in post #67. Besides, for a meteor to impact at such an angle (15 degree), the angle of entry (attacking angle) must have been way too small; trajectory is curved towards ground. Notice the reported direction of entry (post 48) is opposite to the Earth rotation which makes it even more improbable.


G'day AuCo,

I did this image to show the angle of object:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=20509&d=1361328797

As the object is supposed to have disintegrated prior to impact (I personally don't think the ice hole is an impact crater as it was reported in the Russian media that it wasn't) there would be no impact crater. Though I am confused as to why there were reports that the Russian military had cordoned of impact areas and were wearing protective suits.
-- Pan

[GoodETxSG]

It looks like evidence is building more for a natural reason for these events... Is the evidence manufactured or did a lot of people jump to conclusions? Did we want it to be something else so bad that we went into mass histeria? I am not sure. I am still on the fence even though I was told there was human activity involved. I guess we should stay tuned to see what some of the people I trust (Bill, Kerry, David W. & 1 other) to see if anything else shakes out on this topic.

Link to Mulders Thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56028-Web-bot-hit-International-Space-Station--ISS--Communications-lost-Feb-19-2013-&p=638699#post638699

This shows a recent web-bot prediction has come true, and Cliff is predicting alot more communications outages this year.

Within the first 3 minutes of his audio report (below), Cliff High predicts events in space will cause satellite communications outages! He also predicted Comet DA-14 would have companions following it (such as the ones that hit Russia).

Here's a story showing the ISS communications were impacted:
http://www.businessinsider.com/nasa-lost-communication-with-the-international-space-station-2013-2

Here's Cliff's predictions made on 15 Feb 2013:
http://www.halfpasthuman.com/wujo/clifswujo2152013da14.mp3




Since the implication of something other than an actual meteor should not be leisurely ignored therefore if I may, would like to re-iterate. The probable angle of meteor impact is roughly 45 degrees (thus majority of craters are round). The original video in post #1 shows the trajectory almost horizontal (someone mentioned 15 degrees - look at 28 and 48 secs in video of post #41) would have produced an elongated crater, not one like in post #67. Besides, for a meteor to impact at such an angle (15 degree), the angle of entry (attacking angle) must have been way too small; trajectory is curved towards ground. Notice the reported direction of entry (post 48) is opposite to the Earth rotation which makes it even more improbable.


G'day AuCo,

I did this image to show the angle of object:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=20509&d=1361328797

As the object is supposed to have disintegrated prior to impact (I personally don't think the ice hole is an impact crater as it was reported in the Russian media that it wasn't) there would be no impact crater. Though I am confused as to why there were reports that the Russian military had cordoned of impact areas and were wearing protective suits.
-- Pan

[DNA]

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Confession: When I first saw this video posted (on another thread), I thought: "Nonsense. No way could the Russians shoot down a small object traveling at 33,000 mph."

But I watched the video -- and now I'm not nearly so sure. It really looks as if something solid and non-explosive struck the object cleanly from one side (coming from the left), and continued out of the frame to the right.

The video is pretty clear for what it is. It looked like what one would expect from a kinetic energy weapon. That's a very fast, large bullet, to you and me. :)

Here's the concept, which was always part of the Star Wars program (and the Russians have their equivalent, too):
http://dkosopedia.com/wiki/Brilliant_Pebbles

If the Russians really do have the technology to do this, the Americans should be worried. It would mean they can take down any satellite, missile or advanced aircraft they want to, at any time they choose.

The other outlandish explanation (more outlandish? Maybe not!) is that ETs intervened. I can't think of any other way to explain the video other than the above two suggestions.





Edit to add -- see my post #27 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55981-Did-A-UFO-Intervene-Destroying-Russian-Meteor&p=637679&viewfull=1#post637679) over the page. I've changed my mind. :)

It could have been the Russian version of the American Black Ops underground dwelling second civilization.
Russia has their own version of what America is doing I'm sure.
It also reminds me what a rail gun would do. It doesn't seem implausible that there would be a satelite armed with a rail gun on it.

[DNA]

This is one of those instances when I really do think that places like this are the unwitting sheepdog to the socio-engineered mind. When so many subjects are rendered ludicrous, is it any wonder that the sorts of subjects we discuss here are considered the talk of flakes?

A place like Avalon should have some integrity and intelligence. If we play into their hands by buying into the most absurd 'conspiracies' then we poison everything for anything of merit we may discuss. We become laughable.

I'm not an expert in meteorites, but it looks as though that 'event' was a part of the dynamic of a very fast moving and super-heated object.

This depresses me but doesn't surprise me.

Me thinks you prop up your self importance a little too much. Don't worry about what "they" think of you bro. We are having a conversation, no one is stating anything definitively, relax, put your feet up, light a pipe, the popparazzi are not going to snap your picture. :)

[GoodETxSG]

Great conversation and info people. I am never let down by the great minds of Avalon. This Thread and the other one mentioned that I started earlier have had some excellent updates that compliment eachother. Please see the latest on the Speculations 1 through 6 I made and which ones are holding up to time and info/disinfo/media confusion...

:laser: :flame:

Speculating: Global Meteors, Space Based Weapons & Current Struggle for Financial Systems Related?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55967-Speculating-Global-Meteors-Space-Based-Weapons-Current-Struggle-for-Financial-Systems-Related&p=638713#post638713

[korgh]

Great conversation and info people. I am never let down by the great minds of Avalon. This Thread and the other one mentioned that I started earlier have had some excellent updates that compliment eachother. Please see the latest on the Speculations 1 through 6 I made and which ones are holding up to time and info/disinfo/media confusion...

:laser: :flame:

Speculating: Global Meteors, Space Based Weapons & Current Struggle for Financial Systems Related?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55967-Speculating-Global-Meteors-Space-Based-Weapons-Current-Struggle-for-Financial-Systems-Related&p=638713#post638713

Excelent!
Thats the point!
That material makes more sense than others like E.Ts from planet Zebra shooting in meteors or something similar.
I have no doubt that they exist( maybe not from planet zebra :) ) and something very sinister is running in our backs, so is better do not jump before analyse very careful all data that we have.

Cheers

[KiwiElf]

WorshipstheSun
I don't know if anyone else stated this, but IMHO, if a meteorite came down and hit the ice as shown in that picture/vid, #1, I don't think it would leave a perfectly round hole. #2 I think something that big coming down at such speed, would have caused much more disruption of the ice, via a huge wave, or huge cracks all around. I 'm not sure, but my gut tells me "something" is "OFF" about that.

I see where you're coming from WTS - Most of the older meteorite craters on the Earth are, oddly enough, quite symetrical, eg Arizona - despite the fact they didn't come straight down either.

[KiwiElf]

Allegedly... "something" intercepting Asteroid DA14 (from NASA feed)
I cannot validate this ... it is interesting (but could be faked).

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Uploaded on Feb 17, 2013

Incredible footage caught by NASA as they tracked Asteroid DA14. If it was a natural celestial event then why did NASA cut the feed. It is my belief that our Extraterrestrial friends somehow altered the course of the Asteroid, thereby putting it out of harms way and saving countless lives here on Earth. Footage credit: http://www.nasa.gov/

Originally posted on another thread but relevant here too ;)

[Hervé]

From the Electrical Universe point of view:


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Published on Feb 21, 2013
The recent explosion of a large meteor over Russia caused hundreds of injuries and considerable damage to local buildings—the most destructive such event in more than 100 years. The explosion has also raised new questions pointing directly to the behavior of large meteors in the Electric Universe.

Here is a simple experiment by a member of the Thunderbolts group, relating to the APPEARANCE of material ejected in the forward direction at 6:22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ce6Pk_0TNE#) in this presentation:
http://youtu.be/DUe7VTnHIXI

The experiment demonstrates some interesting optical effects of scratches on a transparent surface such as a windshield. A good reason to avoid shouting more exotic speculations as fact, something that has already occurred in Internet comments on the video segment. All fact-based interpretations of the clip, however, will be welcome.

For a relevant Thunderbolts Picture of the Day, see The Peekskill Meteor: http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/200... (http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/050613meteor.htm)


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Picture of the Day: http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/daily... (http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/daily-tpod/)
Electric Universe (Wal Thornhill): http://www.holoscience.com/wp/
Essential Guide to the Electric Universe: http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/eg-co... (http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/eg-contents/)
Thunderbolts Recommended Resources: http://www.scoop.it/t/thunderbolts


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So, to answer the thread's question: Nop!

[Referee]

Good thread! Just wanted to mention one other thing this was in the sky just before the meteorite/ object appeared and something hit it. I think this Video makes some valid points. I hope this adds to the discussion here.

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[ExomatrixTV]

Did UFO 'hit' Russian meteorite blasting it to smithereens? Conspiracy theorists’ extraordinary claim after new footage emerges




Theory is based on analysis of several different pieces of footage
U.F.O. watchers claim object seen close by could be a U.F.O.
They suggest alien 'guardian angels' blasted rock to minimise threat
Reports of a surge in UFO sightings in the Urals before the strike


The meteorite that crashed on Russia was hit by an unidentified flying object causing it to explode and shatter over the Urals, it has been claimed.

The bizarre theory is based on analysis of blurry footage of the space rock as it streaked across morning sky above the city of Chelyabinsk.

U.F.O enthusiasts insist a small 'object' can be seen colliding with the meteorite on its trajectory through the atmosphere, despite the fact there were no reports of Russia launching missiles to down the celestial intruder, they claim.

Scroll down for video


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/28/article-2286035-185A0BA3000005DC-487_634x428.jpg E.T. to the rescue? A new picture showing the Russian meteorite and what is claimed to be a U.F.O (ringed)

The watchers have seized on the unexplained images and an online debate is now underway in Russia with claims that 'we were saved by a UFO', reported the Siberian Times (http://siberiantimes.com/weird-and-wonderful/news-and-features/news/so-did-a-ufo-shoot-down-the-famous-chelyabinsk-meteorite-last-month/).


More...



Hear Russia's massive meteorite explode: Sonic boom resonated round the world but was not audible to the human ear... until now (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2285883/Meteor-slammed-Urals-loudest-noise-recorded-global-nuclear-test-ban-watchdog.html)


The meteorite exploded in the atmosphere on 15 February with a force as great as 30 Hiroshima nuclear bombs, causing extensive damage in Chelyabinsk and injuring around 1,200 people, many from shattered glass.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/28/article-2286035-1449E5B5000005DC-259_306x343.jpg Alien enthusiasts have have seized on the unexplained images as evidence that 'we were saved by a UFO'

Estimated by Nasa to have been 55ft-wide and with a weight of some 10,000 tons, the meteor is thought to have exploded above the Ural mountains with a force equivalent to about 500kilotons.

Nuclear installations in the Urals remained undamaged by the fallout.
'At first, we also believed that the Chelyabinsk meteorite was just an ordinary meteorite, a cosmic body,' said Alexander Komanev, coordinator for the Russian UFO community in Yekaterinburg.

But on at least three films of the space rock 'you can see how an object catches the meteorite', he said.

This minuscule oblong-shaped object "flies into it - and the meteorite explodes and falls'.
He stressed: 'Such a number of videos, made from different angles, leads us to believe that something has blown up the meteorite...'
He claimed that in the weeks before the meteorite, there was an upsurge in UFO sightings in the Urals, followed by none at all since the incident.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/28/article-2286035-185A0B97000005DC-985_634x409.jpg Space rock: The 'U.F.O.' is seen close to the tail of the meteorite in another of the images


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/28/article-2286035-185A0B92000005DC-87_634x420.jpg Evidence? Another shot of the Russian meteorite which exploded in the atmosphere with a force as great as 30 Hiroshima bombs


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/28/article-2286035-185A0B9F000005DC-524_634x374.jpg Proponents of the theory claim there was an upsurge in UFO sightings in the Urals, before the meteorite hit, followed by none at all since the incident

Footage seen ahead of the incident two 'glowing bowls' seen flying in the sky at night over the village of Chabry.

Separately in day time, similar objects were seen over Chelyabinsk, it is claimed.

On both occasions they moved across the sky, disappeared, and then returned.
Russia has called for major international efforts to develop the technology zap incoming space objects, but there is no suggestion any military strike was made at the meteorite on 15 February which was not spotted in advance.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/18/article-0-1798687E000005DC-187_634x405.jpg
Terrifying: Almost 1,200 people were injured when the meteor burst through the Earth's atmosphere at a speed of 46,000mph on Friday, blowing out the windows of 900 schools and hospitals and damaging around 100,000 homes
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/18/article-0-179E399E000005DC-148_634x409.jpg Ice hole: Experts said the meteor that left a 50-foot hole in a frozen lake on the outskirts of Chelyabinsk, in the Urals, weighed around 100,000 tonnes and measured 55 feet in diameter


The 100,000 tonne rock, measuring around 55 feet in diameter, created a huge hole in a frozen lake when it crashed into the ground.

Scientists have found more than 50 tiny fragments of the meteor, allowing them to uncover information about its contents.
Divers are believed to have located several lumps of the meteorite in Lake Chebarkul in Chelyabinsk region.

VIDEO Could this video prove Russian meteorite was shot down?

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2286035/Did-UFO-shoot-Russian-meteorite-blasting-smithereens-Now-conspiracy-theorists-launch-extraordinary-claims-new-footage-emerges.html#ixzz2MIpS85VK

[Hervé]

See this thread: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55981-Did-A-UFO-Intervene-Destroying-Russian-Meteor)

The so-called UFO is nothing more than some "gunk"/scratch on the car's windshield.

[GoodETxSG]

Dunno if we want to merge all of these threads (Though there are about a dozen of them by now) :cool:,
This is covered fully here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55967-Speculating-Global-Meteors-Space-Based-Weapons-Current-Struggle-for-Financial-Systems-Related&p=642758#post642758

Not to say that this "Topic that will not die" is not important... it is very very important. The posts and threads are so scattered that looking at the data objectively is very difficult. Absolutely NO offense to the OP!

[WhiteFeather]

Nothing to see here,,,,,,,, move on people. Our Debunker's on Avalon have already Debunked this. We have some talent here.

[Ivanhoe]

"But on at least three films of the space rock 'you can see how an object catches the meteorite', he said."

This quote got my attention though, I can believe "windshield gunk" on one film,... but three?

[Hervé]

"But on at least three films of the space rock 'you can see how an object catches the meteorite', he said."

This quote got my attention though, I can believe "windshield gunk" on one film,... but three?

Are you sure it's not three different videos of the same footage?

Go read this thread and get a feel for what pranksters are palming off as meteorite craters: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55981-Did-A-UFO-Intervene-Destroying-Russian-Meteor)

Never mind the lucrative scams of selling pieces of "meteorites" on e-bay and other similar sites.

Also, never mind all the other "gunk"/UFO which didn't catch up to the meteor because the cars didn't make a right turn at the right time.

[andrewgreen]

It could be Russian black military projects,we will never know.

[Ivanhoe]

"But on at least three films of the space rock 'you can see how an object catches the meteorite', he said."

This quote got my attention though, I can believe "windshield gunk" on one film,... but three?

Are you sure it's not three different videos of the same footage?

Go read this thread and get a feel for what pranksters are palming off as meteorite craters: Did A UFO Intervene Destroying Russian Meteor? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55981-Did-A-UFO-Intervene-Destroying-Russian-Meteor)

Never mind the lucrative scams of selling pieces of "meteorites" on e-bay and other similar sites.

Obviously I am relying on this persons testimony, but if he really is a serious researcher don't you think he could tell if they were copies of the same video? Seems to me he wouldn't open himself up to being proved wrong if he were simply watching copies of copies without reseaching they authnicity. Just sayin'...
There's always room for error though.

[Hervé]

[[...]
... if he really is a serious researcher don't you think he could tell if they were copies of the same video? Seems to me he wouldn't open himself up to being proved wrong if he were simply watching copies of copies without reseaching they authnicity. Just sayin'...
There's always room for error though.

Check Richard Hoagland and others regarding Elenin... they maintained their stance to the last minute... and lost all credibility. Assumptions about other individuals' integrity can be really lethal in some cases.

In any case, without any evidence nor links to these other two videos, it's all hot air.

[Ivanhoe]

AZ, I agree totally.
Just the same it'd be interesting to see if any other videos of this come out showing an "object" hitting the meteor.
Personally I haven't seen another one, that's not saying they don't exist.
I think there may have been a pocket of water that turned into vapor in the rock that simply blew up when superheated. I don't know for sure....

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

This is pretty much one of these cases...

http://www.moillusions.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Media-Manipulation-Optical-Illusion1.jpg

...where you pick up an image, in this case, a high resolution video, zoom in, cut it down and reduce resolution to make it look like another thing. It´s about manipulating perspective.

Watch the original video, in 1080p, full screen. Scroll up and down frame by frame. The "UFO" is nothing but a reflection/refraction of a scratch/dirt on the windshield:

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Raf.

[GoodETxSG]

Looks to me like number 6 on my speculations link is rising to the surface... planet uniting against threat from space!!!
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55967-Speculating-Global-Meteors-Space-Based-Weapons-Current-Struggle-for-Financial-Systems-Related&p=642758#post642758

Where is America in Defense of Earth?
February 27, 2013 • 8:43PM

With the recent Russian calls to establish an international system of anti-asteroid security for the planet Earth, where is the U.S. response to such an offer?

VIDEO REPORT:

http://media.larouchepac.com/larouche/videos/20120227-america-on-earth-defense.mp4

http://larouchepac.com/node/25653

[ThePythonicCow]

Did UFO 'hit' Russian meteorite blasting it to smithereens? Conspiracy theorists’ extraordinary claim after new footage emerges

I don't know if there is anything new in this report than in the earlier reports, a week or two ago, but I do see many of the same images and the same theory.

I merged this new thread into one of the existing threads covering the same topic.

Please do make an effort to know what else has been posted, especially when posting on a news-worthy event of a couple weeks ago. There is an excellent chance we've already covered it.

[Referee]

Well It seems my post in the other thread on this topic ignited (pun) a lot of debate. That origional post may have been incorrect please take a look at this explination of the video.

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[GoodETxSG]

They say Rail Gun's are experimental but they have been deployed and in use for some time and are preferred by one particular agency over plasma cannons to this day even though they need to be manned and the ordinance maintained.

They are MUCH more compact and have a classified range and speed despite the article below...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1338112/U-S-Navys-supergun--electromagnetic-rail-gun-obliterates-targets-100miles-away.html

The gun that can destroy an enemy 100 miles away and fire bullets at eight times the speed of sound

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/14/article-1338112-0C7909D1000005DC-90_634x684.jpg

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Well It seems my post in the other thread on this topic ignited (pun) a lot of debate. That origional post may have been incorrect please take a look at this explination of the video.

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Kerry Cassidy Interview CLARK McCLELLAND
http://www.stargate-chronicles.com

March 1, 2013

http://freedomslips.com/showarchives/Kerry-Cassidy/Whistle%20Blower%20Radio%20Kerry%20Cassidy%202013%2003%2001.mp3

THIS INTERVIEW WAS WORKING FINE AND THEM WAS REMOVED FROM THE SITE. STRANGE. I WAS ABLE TO DOWNLOAD IT TO MY COMPUTER FIRST THOUGH. INTERESTING INTERVIEW THAT GOES LONG WITH OUR TOPIC...:confused: IT WORKS AGAIN... FOR NOW... GIVE IT A LISTEN!