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27 February 2013 Last updated at 18:01
US private sector hopes to send older couple to Mars
By Pallab Ghosh
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Science correspondent, BBC News The mission would loop around Mars, but would not land
A team led by millionaire and former space tourist Dennis Tito plans to send a "tested
couple" to Mars and back in a privately funded mission.The Inspiration Mars Foundation
plans to start its one-and-a-half-year mission in January 2018.The foundation has
carried out a study which it says shows that it is feasible to achieve such a mission
using existing technology.The group still has to raise funding for their mission.
Among those involved in the project is Jane Poynter, who spent two years locked away
in a sealed ecosystem with seven other people in 1991 which she described as a "New
Age Garden of Eden".
She told BBC News that the mission planners wanted the crew to consist of an older
couple whose relationship would be able to withstand the stress of living in a confined
environment for two years.
"I can attest from personal experience from living in Biosphere 2 that having somebody
that you really deeply trusted and cared for was an extraordinary thing to have," Ms
Poynter explained.Ms Poynter, who ended up marrying one of those involved in the
Biosphere 2 project, Taber Macallum, admitted that it could be "challenging" for the
couple. But said that the selection process would attempt to find "resilient people that
would be able to maintain a happy upbeat attitude in the face of adversity".
The plan was to choose a middle-aged couple because their health and fertility would be
less affected by the radiation they would be exposed to during such a long space
mission.The couple would receive extensive training and would be able to draw on
psychological support from mission control throughout the mission.Ms Poynter's
expectation is that a couple journeying to Mars would be "inspirational".
"We want the crew of vehicle to represent humanity," she said. "We want the youth of
the world to be reflected in this crew and for girls as well as boys to have role models".
Space historian, Prof Christopher Riley of Lincoln University, believes that sending a
couple to Mars might be a good idea."The idea of sending older astronauts on longer
duration missions, after they have had children, has been around for a while. The
reasoning is that such a long duration mission, outside of the protective magnetosphere
of the Earth, could leave them infertile," he said.
"Married couples have occasionally flown in space before, on short flights, and it seemed
to work well, so why not."However results emerging from the so-called Mars500 project
suggests that even carefully screened individuals are likely to suffer from psychological
problems from a prolonged space mission.The mission will be a straightforward flight to
the Red Planet and return without landing. This greatly reduces the cost of the mission.
The Mars Inspiration team believe that it is technically possible to launch such a mission
in five years' time.
The Mars Inspiration team is aiming for a January 2018 launch because it coincides with
a close alignment of Mars and Earth, such that a round trip would take about a year-
and-a half, or 501 days - whereas outside of this window such a trip might take two or
three years .Many believe that new technologies will need to be developed to deal with
the extended periods of radiation such a trip would involve and to cope with supplying
food and water for the crew.The Mars Inspiration team says that it has carried out a
feasibility study for the mission which it plans to release on Sunday. Anu Ojha, from the
British National Space Centre in Leicester has seen the study. He says that it is
theoretically possible to go to Mars and back using the Dragon and Falcon Heavy
systems manufactured by California-based firm SpaceX.
Loo roll crunch
But conditions would be squeezed and spartan, with no room for pressurised space
suits. The report suggests that 1,360kg of dehydrated food will be enough to last the
journey and the manifest includes 28kg of toilet paper for a crew of 2 for 500 days.
But the issue of radiation protection according to Mr Ojha is "glossed over" with the
recognition that more work and "creative solutions" need to be explored. More work will
also need to done to improve recycling technologies to convert urine into water.
The man leading the venture is Denis Tito, who paid 20 million dollars to become the
first "tourist" in space. He spent six days on the International Space Station (ISS) in
2001.The millionaire is financing part of the project but much more money needs to be
raised. The organisers have not stated how much the mission will cost nor how much
they need to raise, saying only that it is much cheaper than one would imagine a Mars
mission to be. Ms Poynter did however confirm that a significant amount of money still
needed to be raised.Anu Ojha believes that unless the venture is 100% underwritten at
this stage it won't get off the ground.
"If a bunch of billionaires have committed the approx $1-2bn required, then we could
see history being made in under five years. If (at the) the press conference they say 'we
have this fantastic concept but need the money - please give generously' then it's dead
in the water," he told BBC News.However Prof Riley is more optimistic. "There are lots
of big ifs in trying to achieve this epic endeavour, but none which are totally
insurmountable given enough money and assistance, and the will to do it," he said.
"It takes mavericks like Tito to create such pivot points in history where significant
things happen, and such a trip would be as significant as Apollo 8's first
circumnavigation of the Moon on Christmas Eve 1968, when the world listened in to the
reflections of the first human beings to orbit another world.
"Perhaps fifty years later, on Christmas Eve 2018 we might be all tuning in to a similar
broadcast from Mars. I hope so!"
The effort represents the latest development in private sector companies moving into
space exploration. Last December, one of the last men on the Moon, Harrison Schmitt,
told BBC News that he believed Nasa and other government run space agencies
were "too inefficient" to be able to send astronauts back to the Moon.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21603490
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27 February 2013 Last updated at 18:01
US private sector hopes to send older couple to Mars
By Pallab Ghosh
there is a vid on link..
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/66111000/jpg/_66111614_66111613.jpg
Science correspondent, BBC News The mission would loop around Mars, but would not land
A team led by millionaire and former space tourist Dennis Tito plans to send a "tested
couple" to Mars and back in a privately funded mission.The Inspiration Mars Foundation
plans to start its one-and-a-half-year mission in January 2018.The foundation has
carried out a study which it says shows that it is feasible to achieve such a mission
using existing technology.The group still has to raise funding for their mission.
Among those involved in the project is Jane Poynter, who spent two years locked away
in a sealed ecosystem with seven other people in 1991 which she described as a "New
Age Garden of Eden".
She told BBC News that the mission planners wanted the crew to consist of an older
couple whose relationship would be able to withstand the stress of living in a confined
environment for two years.
"I can attest from personal experience from living in Biosphere 2 that having somebody
that you really deeply trusted and cared for was an extraordinary thing to have," Ms
Poynter explained.Ms Poynter, who ended up marrying one of those involved in the
Biosphere 2 project, Taber Macallum, admitted that it could be "challenging" for the
couple. But said that the selection process would attempt to find "resilient people that
would be able to maintain a happy upbeat attitude in the face of adversity".
The plan was to choose a middle-aged couple because their health and fertility would be
less affected by the radiation they would be exposed to during such a long space
mission.The couple would receive extensive training and would be able to draw on
psychological support from mission control throughout the mission.Ms Poynter's
expectation is that a couple journeying to Mars would be "inspirational".
"We want the crew of vehicle to represent humanity," she said. "We want the youth of
the world to be reflected in this crew and for girls as well as boys to have role models".
Space historian, Prof Christopher Riley of Lincoln University, believes that sending a
couple to Mars might be a good idea."The idea of sending older astronauts on longer
duration missions, after they have had children, has been around for a while. The
reasoning is that such a long duration mission, outside of the protective magnetosphere
of the Earth, could leave them infertile," he said.
"Married couples have occasionally flown in space before, on short flights, and it seemed
to work well, so why not."However results emerging from the so-called Mars500 project
suggests that even carefully screened individuals are likely to suffer from psychological
problems from a prolonged space mission.The mission will be a straightforward flight to
the Red Planet and return without landing. This greatly reduces the cost of the mission.
The Mars Inspiration team believe that it is technically possible to launch such a mission
in five years' time.
The Mars Inspiration team is aiming for a January 2018 launch because it coincides with
a close alignment of Mars and Earth, such that a round trip would take about a year-
and-a half, or 501 days - whereas outside of this window such a trip might take two or
three years .Many believe that new technologies will need to be developed to deal with
the extended periods of radiation such a trip would involve and to cope with supplying
food and water for the crew.The Mars Inspiration team says that it has carried out a
feasibility study for the mission which it plans to release on Sunday. Anu Ojha, from the
British National Space Centre in Leicester has seen the study. He says that it is
theoretically possible to go to Mars and back using the Dragon and Falcon Heavy
systems manufactured by California-based firm SpaceX.
Loo roll crunch
But conditions would be squeezed and spartan, with no room for pressurised space
suits. The report suggests that 1,360kg of dehydrated food will be enough to last the
journey and the manifest includes 28kg of toilet paper for a crew of 2 for 500 days.
But the issue of radiation protection according to Mr Ojha is "glossed over" with the
recognition that more work and "creative solutions" need to be explored. More work will
also need to done to improve recycling technologies to convert urine into water.
The man leading the venture is Denis Tito, who paid 20 million dollars to become the
first "tourist" in space. He spent six days on the International Space Station (ISS) in
2001.The millionaire is financing part of the project but much more money needs to be
raised. The organisers have not stated how much the mission will cost nor how much
they need to raise, saying only that it is much cheaper than one would imagine a Mars
mission to be. Ms Poynter did however confirm that a significant amount of money still
needed to be raised.Anu Ojha believes that unless the venture is 100% underwritten at
this stage it won't get off the ground.
"If a bunch of billionaires have committed the approx $1-2bn required, then we could
see history being made in under five years. If (at the) the press conference they say 'we
have this fantastic concept but need the money - please give generously' then it's dead
in the water," he told BBC News.However Prof Riley is more optimistic. "There are lots
of big ifs in trying to achieve this epic endeavour, but none which are totally
insurmountable given enough money and assistance, and the will to do it," he said.
"It takes mavericks like Tito to create such pivot points in history where significant
things happen, and such a trip would be as significant as Apollo 8's first
circumnavigation of the Moon on Christmas Eve 1968, when the world listened in to the
reflections of the first human beings to orbit another world.
"Perhaps fifty years later, on Christmas Eve 2018 we might be all tuning in to a similar
broadcast from Mars. I hope so!"
The effort represents the latest development in private sector companies moving into
space exploration. Last December, one of the last men on the Moon, Harrison Schmitt,
told BBC News that he believed Nasa and other government run space agencies
were "too inefficient" to be able to send astronauts back to the Moon.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21603490