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djmoder
19th September 2010, 13:28
Astral Walker has recently wrote another ebook regarding how the 2012 events will be unfold according to his research. He asked me to share this information to everyone in this forum. Enjoy :wave:

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djmoder
19th September 2010, 13:30
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djmoder
19th September 2010, 13:31
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19th September 2010, 13:32
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djmoder
19th September 2010, 13:34
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19th September 2010, 13:35
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djmoder
19th September 2010, 13:35
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djmoder
19th September 2010, 13:36
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djmoder
19th September 2010, 13:36
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19th September 2010, 13:37
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djmoder
19th September 2010, 13:38
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19th September 2010, 13:38
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djmoder
19th September 2010, 13:39
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djmoder
19th September 2010, 13:40
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djmoder
19th September 2010, 13:41
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19th September 2010, 13:41
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djmoder
19th September 2010, 13:42
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19th September 2010, 13:42
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Kra
19th September 2010, 16:03
A link to the pdf ? please.

MorningSong
19th September 2010, 16:04
Thank so much for posting this!

I was wondering if he had done anything new.

I helped translate his first e-book to Italian.

Thanks, again!

PS: What happened to pages 81-90? Or is this simply an error?

Lost Soul
19th September 2010, 16:09
thank you for sharing this.

djmoder
19th September 2010, 16:09
Page 81-90 has been fixed. And the appendix section is shown below:
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djmoder
19th September 2010, 16:10
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sunflower
19th September 2010, 16:16
Many thanks, DJModer, for posting Astralwalker's work and please thank him also. Looking forward to reading it asap.

bashi
19th September 2010, 17:06
hi djmoder,
is there a link to download the PDF?

djmoder
19th September 2010, 22:05
Bashi, I do not have a PDF version of this work at this point. You may have to contact Astral Walker directly to get his permission to release other versions.

Arpheus
19th September 2010, 22:15
Oh boy why did he have to finish the whole message with the ashtar command crap?He lost all his credibility at that point i am sorry heh.

djmoder
19th September 2010, 22:58
Oh boy why did he have to finish the whole message with the ashtar command crap?He lost all his credibility at that point i am sorry heh.

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Astral Walker Answer: You have to see with better eyes my friend, and to open your ears to hear. To become sensitive to what your heart is telling you. Otherwise everything that you are going to see around you it will look like … to you.
Reach deep down in your heart and feel if the words resonate with you. Feel are they giving you a hope and a freedom in your soul or they crashing your system.
The message is authentic mate…have no dough, it was never proven who did it…don’t rely on the stories that circle on internet…ashtar exists like many others. Trust me I know what I’m talking about.
The file contains useful info. Take whatever you feel useful reject whatever does not resonate with your perspective. Have no problem with that.
I just wanted to share my perspective with you and that is what I did. Thank you Dj Moder for passing the message.

Take care everyone,

Astral Walker

djmoder
19th September 2010, 23:06
Astral Walker has given me a permission to release the PDF format of his research. Everyone can download it from the following link : http://www.box.net/shared/1hvnjrfd26

Please feel free to share the file around :)

Kra
20th September 2010, 01:34
Thank you AstralWalker for your work, you have an extraordinary way of writing materials.... and thank you also djmooder for posting this.

cloud9
20th September 2010, 01:53
He mentions an ET race called Quetzal, this is the first time I've heard that name related to a ET race, anybody else here have information about this? Also it's almost impossible not to compare it with Quetzacoal in Maya and mexican traditions.

NeoEmc2
20th September 2010, 16:15
For anyone who cares you can find the book at this link:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/37714816/2012-Equation-Solved

If you are not registered with scribd all you have to do is enter a valid email address, make up a user name and a password and that's it. Then you can download it. If you happen to have facebook you can you enter your facebook login information and you can download using that too.

Peace

Eric J (Viking)
20th September 2010, 16:40
Hey Pane ...

Great to see your still spreading this very important info and wisdom to the masses...

I haven't had a proper read of the latest but I'll download the 'scribe' version and have a good gander...

As usual easy read format for all to digest!!

Be well.

ps thnx DJ...

viking

anikohu
20th September 2010, 19:47
Oh boy why did he have to finish the whole message with the ashtar command crap?He lost all his credibility at that point i am sorry heh.

Thank You for the great summary information! I apprecieted. I have been known and understand what's happening and i also have those info for along time . But I have to tell You, the end!! "Ashtar command" :confused:- I have to agree with ARPHEUS! One other thing-
I came to the concluison after all those information-confusion- sourching for the truth ect. in the last 20 years and my own wierd experiences, what ever will happened WE NEED TO DO ONE THINK- MAKE SURE ,STAY ALIVE AND I LOOK FOWARD TO OUR NEW REALITY!!!:party::party::party:
Ps; The dark kabal has ended no matter what they try to do. This is just a last "kicking"
Love to you all,

hettleman
20th September 2010, 22:16
Wow! Thank you Astra Walker!!! We are waking up and not a moment too soon!
In gratitude of your love, light and service!

onawah
21st September 2010, 03:07
I wish someone would explain the paradox I find in this material as well as in the information I have seen from, among others, Drunvalo Melchizedek (which he says he got from Mayan elder Don Alejandro) and from Don Alejandro himself.

The paradox being that we are told humanity can reach a wonderful new level of being very soon, but hey, by the way, that all life on the planet is going to cease when the energies from the center of the galaxy reach us and the Sun goes through massive changes.

Now, maybe it's just me, but I fail to see how we can reach this wonderful new level of being if our whole planet is fried, the water has boiled down to steam and nothing can survive here for who knows how long. (Except apparently, according to Astral Walker anyway, on a little triangle of land in Australia with good artesian wells. Which doesn't sound too promising to me, I have to say, all things considered.)

Then there's the Hopi who say the 4 Corners area will be safe, though where their water will come from in all that desert must be a very well kept secret.

Assuming there is any agreement among these various sources of of information, do they mean that we can somehow avert this natural disaster from space if we alter our consciousness quickly enough?

(And if so, HOW? Just by meditating? How will that affect the beams from space and the Sun changing to a Red giant and so on. And if meditation is all it takes, HOW COME THE ANCIENTS, who evidently knew all about this, didn't avert the disasters that befell THEM during the shifts of the ages past?)

Or do they mean that we must start all over again here on the planet (when Gaia can support life again presumably sometime during the Sixth World), and that we will THEN reach a wonderful new level of being? If the little triangle in Australia (and/or Hopiland ) is the only place where life will be able to survive this shift, then that will obviously involve only a very small number of people. What happens to all the other billions of souls who don't make it and can't reincarnate here again any time soon because most of the planet will presumably be desert for a very long time to come?

And what exactly will happen to the Illuminati, the military and their minions in all their underground complexes when the meltdown occurs? Are those the people who will become the seeds for the new humanity of the Sixth World? They seem to think so, judging from their weird murals at the Denver Airport, and they sure seem to be going all out with our tax dollars to make sure they make a comfortable transition down there while presumably everyone else vaporizes on the surface.
I imagine they have lots of water down there and hydroponic facilities for growing food, etc., but they don't seem to be the "good seed" that would sprout into an enlightened new humanity.

A little clarity on this conundrum would certainly be appreciated! It's a very big jigsaw puzzle and difficult to see how the pieces are supposed to fit together, if at all. If time is so scarce, then I would think a bit more information forthcoming now would certainly be helpful and timely.

And if help is really what is intended, I honestly don't think it will come in the form of a workshop somewhere that a few people will participate in for X number of dollars, to slowly trickle down through youtube videos and blogs...

Otherwise, sometimes I feel like someone somewhere is just having a huge belly laugh at our expense.

Snowbird
21st September 2010, 21:47
Thank you AstralWalker for this extremely interesting read. And thanks djmoder for helping to educate us all.

No wonder they are attempting to remove everything on this earth that is helping us to survive. It is sometimes difficult to muster compassion for the compassion-less. But that is exactly what we must do.

Like Onawah, I too have questions. The ascension of the earth will have a huge roll in this upcoming drama. The ships that are purported to be congregating enmasse according to the hint from NORAD, may very well be coming here to attempt to collect as many as possible to take where? Mars? What for? Re-population?

This is all so other-worldly. Literally!! :eek:

onawah
22nd September 2010, 00:12
Thank you AstralWalker for this extremely interesting read. And thanks djmoder for helping to educate us all.

No wonder they are attempting to remove everything on this earth that is helping us to survive. It is sometimes difficult to muster compassion for the compassion-less. But that is exactly what we must do.

Like Onawah, I too have questions. The ascension of the earth will have a huge roll in this upcoming drama. The ships that are purported to be congregating enmasse according to the hint from NORAD, may very well be coming here to attempt to collect as many as possible to take where? Mars? What for? Re-population?

This is all so other-worldly. Literally!! :eek:

I agree we must exercise compassion as vast as a Bodhisaatva. Even if it means renouncing vengeance and embracing as long lost brothers those who would destroy us, when they turn to the Light.

I like to think those huge ships are coming to protect the Earth from the most destructive of the energies that are due to be incoming soon. That is the message from many channelers and psychics--that we will be protected from the destructive energies, and that the Ascension energies will make it impossible for those who would, to continue in their destructive, compassionless mode.

However, it would be very comforting, not to mention empowering, to have something more tangible in the way of information, whether it be from crop circles, indigenous elders, or real flesh and blood benevolent ETs.

djmoder
22nd September 2010, 00:49
Re: The paradox being that we are told humanity can reach a wonderful new level of being very soon, but hey, by the way, that all life on the planet is going to cease when the energies from the center of the galaxy reach us and the Sun goes through massive changes.

Two scenarios, life wins in two of them only in a different way.

1. Vibrational field of organism we call Earth has not reach the satisfactory level which provides safe accumulation of the energetic wave…result >> format of all life and nature on 3D Level except zones that are shielded. Nexus hits, compatible life forms experience great evolution, not compatible life forms experience opposite…

After the star “dies” and the released outer layer hits Earth, it distributes the necessary building blocks of life and causes Genesis.

Genesis stands for “LIFE from Lifelessness”, it is a process where bio-molecular structure it’s reorganized at subatomic level into LIFE Generating matter of equal mass. Everything is formed again, oxygen, H2O, Helium etc. Life conditions are formed again…but it’s going to be a process because the star is now small and it will take a while until it starts to grow towards Yellow Dwarf again and to provide the same condition for life.

And it will take a while until “pure essences” of what was once humans can take biological hosts again and to incarnate on the new Earth. But with all power and knowledge regain I do not think that many would chose to return to 3D reality which is only a school.

If Dark Side plans are successful, humanity is taken to different parts of cosmos, far beyond the touch of the NEXUS. I already explained what that means. The Light is fighting strongly to prevent such scenario.

2.Vibrational field of the organism we call Earth has reached the satisfactory level where consciousness had prevailed over vandalism and low material nature…there is strong meditative connection among people, that connection touches the consciousness of all life on the planet including ETs and people from Shamballa. That meditative connection of all life becomes so strong that it feels the planet to the atomic level; it feels GAIA and becomes ONE with it…

The flower of life protective astral-energetic field is created around Earth and the planetary Star Tetrahedron is fired up and spinning in beautiful light (Note: auroras are going to change colour and size soon)…the energy passes, the planet is compatible for upgrade, ascension and reconfiguration of the RNA/DNA of All Life takes place.

Life continues on 3D, oceans remain and are not boiled since the planet magnetosphere had become the flower of life protective shield, GAIA through its polar openings streams more energy into the star tetrahedron and whole flower of life structure…

http://www.spaceweather.com/aurora/images2010/19sep10/Ole-Christian-Salomonsen1.jpg

The generated force field is strong enough to shield from the heat and radiation…Star is reborn, Earth stays…all the dirt is cleaned between 23 Dec 2012 to 28 March 2013 and Earth survives and its reborn in the Era of Light of Peace and Harmony.

http://www.holohealth.com/product/images/Flower%20of%20%20Life.jpg

The meditative ONENESS holds and protects the LIFE on the Planet. At the moment we are late, and the odds at the moment are 1:1000 but forget about odds…keep on going, fast and strong, believe and it will be manifested. Do not fear, keep the focus and it will achieved. Everything starts inside the consciousness…well consciousness is what our planet is, what our sun is and what this universe is…we just need to learn to recognize and to tune into that huge ocean of consciousnesses.

Now you know why FLOWER OF LIFE is depicted everywhere on the Ancient Temples…It is Warning to the future generations and the KEY in the same time. There are only handful of people that live on the surface that have understood this properly…


Re: Now, maybe it's just me, but I fail to see how we can reach this wonderful new level of being if our whole planet is fried, the water has boiled down to steam and nothing can survive here for who knows how long. (Except apparently, according to Astral Walker anyway, on a little triangle of land in Australia with good artesian wells. Which doesn't sound too promising to me, I have to say, all things considered.)

The triangle zone was passed to me…and I have passed to you all…what you do or what you make of it is your own choice. No other zone was shown to me, is that mean that no other zones will do also…I just do not know…further input needed.


Re: Assuming there is any agreement among these various sources of information, do they mean that we can somehow avert this natural disaster from space if we alter our consciousness quickly enough?

No, the Sgr A exploded, the jet was released and the wave of energy is released also and approaching. Nothing can stop that and higher forces are preparing all the rest of the planets in the system for the compatibility purposes…creating new rings on Saturn, creating compatibility of our Sun…etc.

The attempt is higher the vibrational field of Earth so the planet will be able to survive the event unharmed with all life on it.


Re: (And if so, HOW? Just by meditating? How will that affect the beams from space and the Sun changing to a Red giant and so on. And if meditation is all it takes, HOW COME THE ANCIENTS, who evidently knew all about this, didn't avert the disasters that befell THEM during the shifts of the ages past?)

Our past is filled with two sides, one fallowing the Light and other fallowing the Dark…and nuclear conflict took place not so long ago…so it was not just Nexus that took place…what the Nexus is concern…about ascension…when you take a good look…so many of stone statues everywhere on world…most of them where turned to stone and ascended…I’m aware that this is going to be hard to swallow but I told you anyway.

http://www.molon.de/galleries/Thailand/Ayutthaya/YaiChaiMongkhon/images01/10%20Aligned%20Buddha%20statues%20covered%20with%20golden%20robes.jpg

http://wallpaperesi.com/Thumbnail/Buddha-Statue-Wat-Mahathat-Thailand-Places-Wallpaper-1.jpg

http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/60/80460-050-306F7F33.jpg

http://blog.tourismthailand.org/EugeneTang/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ayuthaya-buddha.jpg

http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/LRG/20/2098/GQP2D00Z.jpg

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ysyeOXMvYTZH7M:http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6637/borobudurtemple021024mk4.jpg&t=1

The meditation provides access to inner and outer energies, if combined it accumulates power which can change the outcome for us and the planet itself.


Re: Or do they mean that we must start all over again here on the planet (when Gaia can support life again presumably sometime during the Sixth World), and that we will THEN reach a wonderful new level of being? If the little triangle in Australia (and/or Hopiland ) is the only place where life will be able to survive this shift, then that will obviously involve only a very small number of people. What happens to all the other billions of souls who don't make it and can't reincarnate here again any time soon because most of the planet will presumably be desert for a very long time to come?

That is why we are here and you are reading these lines…to help that does not become reality inside matrix. Some mysterious force has guided you so far and now things are starting to make sense and you can feel it in your hearth.

It can be done, there its still time…



Re: And what exactly will happen to the Illuminati, the military and their minions in all their underground complexes when the meltdown occurs? Are those the people who will become the seeds for the new humanity of the Sixth World? They seem to think so, judging from their weird murals at the Denver Airport, and they sure seem to be going all out with our tax dollars to make sure they make a comfortable transition down there while presumably everyone else vaporizes on the surface.

Russia is “officially” building nuclear space ships that have to be finished before the 2012 ends, to move away from the approaching heat, to Mars and beyond. I can assure you that they already have the space ships and it’s only a movie for population. The plan is also to move deep underground and to stay there at least 5 years until conditions become suitable for life again. In my personal opinion, despite the fact that I do not want to underestimate them, the chances for survival of such event on 3D level are almost equal to zero, the only way is if Flower of Life is builded and protective layer of energy is created by the combined effort of all life…us and ETs also…Time for conflict is over…Time to unite and to become ONE if we want life to continue on 3D realm.


Re: I imagine they have lots of water down there and hydroponic facilities for growing food, etc., but they don't seem to be the "good seed" that would sprout into an enlightened new humanity.

Yes that’s correct. They made sure that have the maximum that is available.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_underground29.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_underground.htm#Additional_Information


Re: A little clarity on this conundrum would certainly be appreciated! It's a very big jigsaw puzzle and difficult to see how the pieces are supposed to fit together, if at all. If time is so scarce, then I would think a bit more information forthcoming now would certainly be helpful and timely.

I hear you, I can not be involved into this anymore but your questions were very important.



Re: And if help is really what is intended, I honestly don't think it will come in the form of a workshop somewhere that a few people will participate in for X number of dollars, to slowly trickle down through youtube videos and blogs...

Things are not as you perceive them.


Re: Otherwise, sometimes I feel like someone somewhere is just having a huge belly laugh at our expense.

I understand where you coming from. Rest insured that my intentions are not to harm, but to help.



Namaste,

Astralwaker

djmoder
22nd September 2010, 00:50
http://users.mundivia.es/amadian/covers/songs_of_distant_earth_reissue.jpg

Dale
22nd September 2010, 01:51
Well, that was quite the read!


The paradox being that we are told humanity can reach a wonderful new level of being very soon, but hey, by the way, that all life on the planet is going to cease when the energies from the center of the galaxy reach us and the Sun goes through massive changes.

Good point. I've often wondered that as well.

I don't claim to know much about 2012, other than it comes after 2011 and hopefully precedes 2013 :p

CetaceousOne
22nd September 2010, 04:24
This is a very interesting discussion...

onawah
22nd September 2010, 07:13
Thanks very much, Astral Walker and/or Djmoder. I think your answers have to a large extent bypassed my ego (in it's current, egotistical, irate state) :hurt::suspicious::target::rant: and captured the attention of my authentic self, causing it to :dance:
I/It needed that!
I will read all you have posted carefully as well as the links. You are right, the bit about the stone statues is too much to swallow for me, but I am used to going through information now with a fine tooth comb to find what resonates. Much of what I have skimmed through so far looks like it will work for me, at least, the general gist of it.
But the editor in me is itching to correct your typos and spelling! :lol:
Just kidding. Thanks again, and Namaste.

Nagual
22nd September 2010, 07:20
Oh boy why did he have to finish the whole message with the ashtar command crap?He lost all his credibility at that point i am sorry heh.





Astral Walker Answer: You have to see with better eyes my friend, and to open your ears to hear. To become sensitive to what your heart is telling you. Otherwise everything that you are going to see around you it will look like … to you.
Reach deep down in your heart and feel if the words resonate with you. Feel are they giving you a hope and a freedom in your soul or they crashing your system.
The message is authentic mate…have no dough, it was never proven who did it…don’t rely on the stories that circle on internet…ashtar exists like many others. Trust me I know what I’m talking about.
The file contains useful info. Take whatever you feel useful reject whatever does not resonate with your perspective. Have no problem with that.
I just wanted to share my perspective with you and that is what I did. Thank you Dj Moder for passing the message.

Take care everyone,

Astral Walker

Hi djmoder, tanks for posting…

Regarding Ashtar, if you read ‘Ashtar Sheran’ backwards it becomes ‘Narehs Rathsa’…, this is pure Sanskrit and it means "god-king-man" - either a king half human- half god, or a king who claims to be a god over humans.

Could Astralwalker shed some light on this?

Chakra
22nd September 2010, 08:08
The paradox being that we are told humanity can reach a wonderful new level of being very soon, but hey, by the way, that all life on the planet is going to cease when the energies from the center of the galaxy reach us and the Sun goes through massive changes.

Now, maybe it's just me, but I fail to see how we can reach this wonderful new level of being if our whole planet is fried, the water has boiled down to steam and nothing can survive here for who knows how long. (Except apparently, according to Astral Walker anyway, on a little triangle of land in Australia with good artesian wells. Which doesn't sound too promising to me, I have to say, all things considered.)

Then there's the Hopi who say the 4 Corners area will be safe, though where their water will come from in all that desert must be a very well kept secret.

Assuming there is any agreement among these various sources of of information, do they mean that we can somehow avert this natural disaster from space if we alter our consciousness quickly enough?

(And if so, HOW? Just by meditating? How will that affect the beams from space and the Sun changing to a Red giant and so on. And if meditation is all it takes, HOW COME THE ANCIENTS, who evidently knew all about this, didn't avert the disasters that befell THEM during the shifts of the ages past?)

Or do they mean that we must start all over again here on the planet (when Gaia can support life again presumably sometime during the Sixth World), and that we will THEN reach a wonderful new level of being? If the little triangle in Australia (and/or Hopiland ) is the only place where life will be able to survive this shift, then that will obviously involve only a very small number of people. What happens to all the other billions of souls who don't make it and can't reincarnate here again any time soon because most of the planet will presumably be desert for a very long time to come?

And what exactly will happen to the Illuminati, the military and their minions in all their underground complexes when the meltdown occurs? Are those the people who will become the seeds for the new humanity of the Sixth World? They seem to think so, judging from their weird murals at the Denver Airport, and they sure seem to be going all out with our tax dollars to make sure they make a comfortable transition down there while presumably everyone else vaporizes on the surface.
I imagine they have lots of water down there and hydroponic facilities for growing food, etc., but they don't seem to be the "good seed" that would sprout into an enlightened new humanity.

A little clarity on this conundrum would certainly be appreciated! It's a very big jigsaw puzzle and difficult to see how the pieces are supposed to fit together, if at all. If time is so scarce, then I would think a bit more information forthcoming now would certainly be helpful and timely.

And if help is really what is intended, I honestly don't think it will come in the form of a workshop somewhere that a few people will participate in for X number of dollars, to slowly trickle down through youtube videos and blogs...
Otherwise, sometimes I feel like someone somewhere is just having a huge belly laugh at our expense.

Totally on the same page with you on this one! :) I got the 2012 app for my iPhone just to poke fun and make light of it with people that get weird about it.

I don't know about Australia but Up here in BC we got lots of water..... Juneau Alaska is gorgeous and it is just really pretty and green all along the North West coast.

But it's like everyone want's their 15min's of 'I am Channeler' I have all the wisdom of the universe at my disposal - fame'
BUT nothing that is said is really making any sense in the long run. It sounds all profound and mystical and then It will be contradicted by the next one and the next one etc. And you know in the end - It will all blow over just like y2k did. NEXT....:bump2:

Ross
22nd September 2010, 08:53
I don't claim to know much about 2012, other than it comes after 2011 and hopefully precedes 2013 :p



now there's some definate truth in that.:heh:

Regards

Ross

lightblue
22nd September 2010, 09:13
nagual:

Hi djmoder, tanks for posting…

Regarding Ashtar, if you read ‘Ashtar Sheran’ backwards it becomes ‘Narehs Rathsa’…, this is pure Sanskrit and it means "god-king-man" - either a king half human- half god, or a king who claims to be a god over humans.

Could Astralwalker shed some light on this?



nagual, which dictionary do you draw this from? thanks l

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Nagual
22nd September 2010, 10:07
nagual, which dictionary do you draw this from? thanks



the problem is that looking in the dictionary, you won’t find it :confused:

the roots of the words are

naraH = a man

rathaM = the chariot


the whole thing was explained to me by a German researcher/Sanskrit scholar ..., i know nothing about sanskrit :p

lightblue
22nd September 2010, 10:30
nagual


the problem is that looking in the dictionary, you won’t find it

the roots of the words are

naraH = a man

rathaM = the chariot


the whole thing was explained to me by a German researcher/Sanskrit scholar ..., i know nothing about sanskrit


with respect, but this is very far off from the interpretation you have given in the first place god-king-man...you said

Regarding Ashtar, if you read ‘Ashtar Sheran’ backwards it becomes ‘Narehs Rathsa’…, this is pure Sanskrit and it means "god-king-man" - either a king half human- half god, or a king who claims to be a god over humans.

Could Astralwalker shed some light on this?


i[SIZE="3"] know very little myself, but you don't have to know so much to look it up in the dictionary and find that naraaH is a plural meaning people, men and not: a man...ratha is far off from rathsa if we take into consideration that sanskrit is a phonetic language and EVERY sound/ letter is pronounced..nothig is dropped...maybe synthetised, but not dropped...how does then ratha becomes rathsa? sorry but i think that the german scholar gave it a very loose interpretation...and where is GOD in all this..and the KING? ra in sanskrit indicates a movement and prefix ra is used to indiceate things that are moving including sun's movement...maybe that's where he drew a very loose connection and that's if we understand that the sun itslef is god (one of the gods)..out of curiosity, what's the name of the german scholar? thanks l


if you can't remember, do not worry, we've gone off topic, slightly...

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and by the way, by no standards can Narehs Rathsa’ be pure sanskrit....no..

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Nagual
22nd September 2010, 11:18
lightblue,

i'll try to get a 'proper explanation' from the German researcher, and as soon as this happen i'll post it here. promised. ;)

Eric J (Viking)
22nd September 2010, 11:29
Hi again ...

Pane/DJ ...

Lots of interesting information all condensed in this excellent 'read' ... anyway I am half way through ....could you confirm that when you mention The Quetzal Race....are you refering to 'The Bird Tribes' THE QUET*ZAL/PHOENIX ??

viking

Gemeos
22nd September 2010, 15:45
It was a big surprise to see this thread and Astralwalkers name on it.

I was a little worried about you Pane, as we never heard from you again. So seeing this new work of yours, is great.
Thank you for providing the information, and for being around.

Love and Respect to you

Gemeos

onawah
23rd September 2010, 03:03
I would very much like to get Astral Walker's impressions of the information given by Insider on the thread
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?766-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider

entitled
Revelations of an Elite Family Insider

posted by Swami

To save you going to that link, here is Swami's original post (below) and the link where Insider's remarks can be read is
http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The...y-Insider-2005

(But you have to go to the link to read the forum member's comments, of course.)
Thanks!


"Something fascinating happened on a forum (godlikeproductions.com) in a span of a few days and it has caused quite a stir in certain parts of the Internet. A person by the moniker of Insider claimed he was from a ruling bloodline and gave the people a chance to ask everything they wanted and Insider would answer. At first it looks like another internet hoax, some lightweight questions were followed by lightweight answers, but then things started changing drastically. Anyone who understands dialectics knows that the answers Insider gave were designed to force/provoke others to ask questions which went to the core of the matter. First some questions are being asked by Insider like "Are you really living on the planet you think you are?" which made people react differently than before.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The...y-Insider-2005

onawah
24th September 2010, 04:58
[QUOTE=djmoder;52865]Two scenarios, life wins in two of them only in a different way.

1. Vibrational field of organism we call Earth has not reach the satisfactory level which provides safe accumulation of the energetic wave…result >> format of all life and nature on 3D Level except zones that are shielded. Nexus hits, compatible life forms experience great evolution, not compatible life forms experience opposite…

ONAWAH: I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW "COMPATIBLE LIFE FORMS" COULD SURVIVE THE NEXUS EVENT. THIS CONTRADICTS WHAT WAS SAID BEFORE ABOUT OCEANS BOILING, ALL ORGANIC LIFE PERISHING. UNLESS THE LIFE FORMS SHIFT TO SOME KIND OF NON ORGANIC FORM, OR TO A DIFFERENT DIMENSION THAT IS STILL CONNECTED TO EARTH. ISN'T IT NECESSARY TO HAVE 3D LIFEFORMS ON EARTH IN ORDER FOR 4D AND 5D LIFE TO EVOLVE, AND DOESN'T 3D LIFE STILL REMAIN--ROCKS, PLANTS, TREES, ETC.?

After the star “dies” and the released outer layer hits Earth, it distributes the necessary building blocks of life and causes Genesis.

Genesis stands for “LIFE from Lifelessness”, it is a process where bio-molecular structure it’s reorganized at subatomic level into LIFE Generating matter of equal mass. Everything is formed again, oxygen, H2O, Helium etc. Life conditions are formed again…but it’s going to be a process because the star is now small and it will take a while until it starts to grow towards Yellow Dwarf again and to provide the same condition for life.

And it will take a while until “pure essences” of what was once humans can take biological hosts again and to incarnate on the new Earth. But with all power and knowledge regain I do not think that many would chose to return to 3D reality which is only a school.

ONAWAH: DID THIS HAPPEN DURING SHIFTS FROM THE OTHER 5,000 YEAR AGES? IT SEEMS TO ME IT WOULD TAKE MUCH LONGER THAN 5000 YEARS FOR THIS GENESIS PROCESS TO TAKE PLACE, TO RESTORE 3D LIFE-- MORE LIKE MILLIONS OF YEARS. WHICH REFUTES PART OF THE THEORY BEHIND THE MAYAN CALENDAR, THAT IT IS A RECORD OF THE AGES OF HUMANKIND.

If Dark Side plans are successful, humanity is taken to different parts of cosmos, far beyond the touch of the NEXUS. I already explained what that means. The Light is fighting strongly to prevent such scenario.

ONAWAH: I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT SOULS INCARNATE ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN NATURAL EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS. THAT IF A SOUL NEEDS TO EXPERIENCE LIFE ON A DIFFERENT PLANET, IT WOULD JUST TRAVEL THERE AFTER DEATH. THIS SCENARIO THAT IS DESCRIBES IS UNIMAGINABLE TO ME, JUST AS SHIFT SHIFTING HUMAN/REPTILIANS, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. WHILE I DON'T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT "INSIDER" SAYS EITHER, (SEE http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?766-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider ), I HAVE TO SAY HIS PERSPECTIVE ON THIS KIND OF THING MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME.

2.Vibrational field of the organism we call Earth has reached the satisfactory level where consciousness had prevailed over vandalism and low material nature…there is strong meditative connection among people, that connection touches the consciousness of all life on the planet including ETs and people from Shamballa. That meditative connection of all life becomes so strong that it feels the planet to the atomic level; it feels GAIA and becomes ONE with it…

ONAWAH: WHO ARE THE "PEOPLE FROM SHAMBALLA"? IS THIS SOMETHING TO DO WITH AGARTHA?

The flower of life protective astral-energetic field is created around Earth and the planetary Star Tetrahedron is fired up and spinning in beautiful light (Note: auroras are going to change colour and size soon)…the energy passes, the planet is compatible for upgrade, ascension and reconfiguration of the RNA/DNA of All Life takes place.

Life continues on 3D, oceans remain and are not boiled since the planet magnetosphere had become the flower of life protective shield, GAIA through its polar openings streams more energy into the star tetrahedron and whole flower of life structure…

http://www.spaceweather.com/aurora/images2010/19sep10/Ole-Christian-Salomonsen1.jpg

The generated force field is strong enough to shield from the heat and radiation…Star is reborn, Earth stays…all the dirt is cleaned between 23 Dec 2012 to 28 March 2013 and Earth survives and its reborn in the Era of Light of Peace and Harmony.

http://www.holohealth.com/product/images/Flower%20of%20%20Life.jpg

ONAWAH: OK! WHILE THE SCIENCE WHICH HAS CHARTED ALL THE CHANGES THAT ARE ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE MAKE IT SOUND LIKE THIS SCENARIO IS IMPOSSIBLE, THIS IS MORE LIKE THE SCENARIO THAT I FEEL SPIRITUAL BEINGS, BENEVOLENT ETS, OTHER DIMENSIONAL BEINGS, WHATEVER, (INCLUDING SPIRITUAL HUMANS) HAVE BEEN ENVISIONING AND THUS, CREATING. SO THEORETICALLY, IF THIS SCENARIO IS SUCCESSFULLY CREATED, THE BEAMS OF LIGHT WILL STILL ARRIVE IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM, THE SUN WILL STILL TRANSFORM AND SWALLOW UP MERCURY AND VENUS, EARTH WILL MOVE TO A FURTHER ORBIT FROM THE SUN, THE SUN WILL HEAT UP AND THEN COOL DOWN ETC.
BUT 3D LIFE ON EARTH WILL NOT BE DESTROYED, AND PRESUMABLY, WILL CONTINUE TO ASCEND INTO 4D AND 5D AT A FAIRLY RAPID PACE.
(BY "dirt is cleaned between 23 Dec 2012 to 28 March 2013" DO YOU MEAN POLLUTION IS CLEANED UP ON EARTH?)

IT IS HELPFUL TO HASH THIS OVER, BECAUSE ONCE ONE HAS AN IDEA OF WHAT THE SCIENTIFIC VIEW IS RE THE COMING EVENTS, IT IS DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE HOW EARTH CAN ASCEND INTO THE WONDERFUL GOLDEN AGE THAT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED BY SO MANY WITHOUT FIRST GOING THROUGH PLANET WIDE CATACLYSMS THAT WOULD DESTROY ALL LIFE. SOME GOLDEN AGE :(
BUT YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE ENERGETIC FIELD HUMANS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH BENEVOLENT ETS AND GAIA HERSELF CAN PROTECT EARTH FROM THE HARM THAT THE INCOMING ENERGIES COULD CAUSE TO HER AND HER LIFEFORMS. EVEN THOUGH THE ENERGIES THEMSELVES CANNOT BE STOPPED.
I GUESS I WAS ALWAYS ASSUMING THAT IF THE CATACLYSMS WERE TO BE AVOIDED, IT COULD ONLY BE BECAUSE ETS WOULD SOMEHOW AVERT THE INCOMING ENERGIES OR NEUTRALIZE THEM SOMEHOW WITH THEIR TECHNOLOGY, PROVIDED HUMANKIND REACHED A HIGH ENOUGH LEVEL THAT THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED TO DO THIS.
OR PERHAPS IT IS A COMBINATION OF BOTH.
(BTW, I NEVER HAVE BOUGHT THE TWO EARTHS SCENARIO THAT DOLORES CANNON AND OTHERS HAVE DESCRIBED,WHERE EARTH SPLITS AND ONE ASCENDS WHILE THE OTHER HAS ALL THE CATACLYSMS. WHERE IS THE SCIENCE FOR THAT? DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THAT THEORY?)

THIS LEAVES OUT MERCURY AND VENUS, APPARENTLY. IN THIS SCENARIO, THEY WILL BE DESTROYED NO MATTER WHAT, RIGHT? WHAT ABOUT MARS?
I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT IN THE PROJECT CAMELOT INFO--WHAT HENRY DEACON WOULD GO OFF IN A ROOM SOMETIMES AND CRY ABOUT WITH HIS BUDDY (I FORGET WHO THE SECOND GUY WAS) THAT SEEMED TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE FATE OF MARS.
WILL CURRENT LIFE ON MARS SURVIVE? WILLTHE RUSSIANS HAVE TO LIVE UNDERGROUND IF THEY SETTLE THERE? IT SEEMS IT WILL BE VERY COLD THERE ONCE THE SUN COOLS.


The meditative ONENESS holds and protects the LIFE on the Planet. At the moment we are late, and the odds at the moment are 1:1000 but forget about odds…keep on going, fast and strong, believe and it will be manifested. Do not fear, keep the focus and it will achieved. Everything starts inside the consciousness…well consciousness is what our planet is, what our sun is and what this universe is…we just need to learn to recognize and to tune into that huge ocean of consciousnesses.

ONAWAH: NOT VERY GOOD ODDS, ACCORDING TO YOU!

Now you know why FLOWER OF LIFE is depicted everywhere on the Ancient Temples…It is Warning to the future generations and the KEY in the same time. There are only handful of people that live on the surface that have understood this properly…

ONAWAH:YES, I HAVE ALWAYS RESONATED VERY STRONGLY WITH THE FLOWER OF LIFE.

The triangle zone was passed to me…and I have passed to you all…what you do or what you make of it is your own choice. No other zone was shown to me, is that mean that no other zones will do also…I just do not know…further input needed.



No, the Sgr A exploded, the jet was released and the wave of energy is released also and approaching. Nothing can stop that and higher forces are preparing all the rest of the planets in the system for the compatibility purposes…creating new rings on Saturn, creating compatibility of our Sun…etc.

The attempt is higher the vibrational field of Earth so the planet will be able to survive the event unharmed with all life on it.

Our past is filled with two sides, one fallowing the Light and other fallowing the Dark…and nuclear conflict took place not so long ago…so it was not just Nexus that took place…what the Nexus is concern…about ascension…when you take a good look…so many of stone statues everywhere on world…most of them where turned to stone and ascended…I’m aware that this is going to be hard to swallow but I told you anyway.

ONAWAH: YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE STONE STATUES WERE ONCE HUMAN BODIES, BUT THE SOULS ASCENDED AND THEIR BODIES TURNED TO STONE? YOU ARE RIGHT, THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME AT ALL. PLEASE, WHAT SCIENCE IS THERE TO BACK THAT THEORY UP? THOSE STONE STATUES LOOK VERY STYLIZED, ARE NOT EVEN THAT REALISICALLY HUMAN LOOKING.

http://www.molon.de/galleries/Thailand/Ayutthaya/YaiChaiMongkhon/images01/10%20Aligned%20Buddha%20statues%20covered%20with%20golden%20robes.jpg

http://wallpaperesi.com/Thumbnail/Buddha-Statue-Wat-Mahathat-Thailand-Places-Wallpaper-1.jpg

http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/60/80460-050-306F7F33.jpg

http://blog.tourismthailand.org/EugeneTang/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ayuthaya-buddha.jpg

http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/LRG/20/2098/GQP2D00Z.jpg

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ysyeOXMvYTZH7M:http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6637/borobudurtemple021024mk4.jpg&t=1

The meditation provides access to inner and outer energies, if combined it accumulates power which can change the outcome for us and the planet itself.

That is why we are here and you are reading these lines…to help that does not become reality inside matrix. Some mysterious force has guided you so far and now things are starting to make sense and you can feel it in your hearth.

It can be done, there its still time…

ONAWAH: THE MAYAN ELDER DON ALEJANDRO SAID THAT THE DATE 2012 WAS NOT NECESSARILY WHEN THE SIXTH SUN WOULD MANIFEST. HE SAID IT MIGHT TAKE SOME YEARS LONGER. IS YOUR THEORY ABOUT THE SIXTH SUN ARRIVING ON MARCH 28, 2013 BASED SOLELY ON THE CROP CIRCLES?

THERE ARE PLENTY OF SIGNS THAT SEEM TO BE SHOWING THAT DISASTER AWAITS. CAN YOU SHOW US ANY PROOF THAT WE ARE GOING TO BEAT THE ODDS ?

Russia is “officially” building nuclear space ships that have to be finished before the 2012 ends, to move away from the approaching heat, to Mars and beyond. I can assure you that they already have the space ships and it’s only a movie for population.

ONAWAH: I UNDERSTAND IT IS NOT SO EASY FOR HUMANS TO ADAPT QUICKLY TO LIVING ON MARS. THIS SEEMS LIKE A VERY ILL FATED PLAN. LIVING UNDERGROUND ON EARTH SEEMS MORE LIKELY, BUT NOT THE WAY THE SECRET GOVERNMENT IS GOING ABOUT IT...I FEEL SORRY FOR THOSE PEOPLE!!

The plan is also to move deep underground and to stay there at least 5 years until conditions become suitable for life again. In my personal opinion, despite the fact that I do not want to underestimate them, the chances for survival of such event on 3D level are almost equal to zero, the only way is if Flower of Life is builded and protective layer of energy is created by the combined effort of all life…us and ETs also…Time for conflict is over…Time to unite and to become ONE if we want life to continue on 3D realm.

ONAWAH: 5 YEARS SURE DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT WOULD BE ENOUGH TIME FOR LIFE TO SPRING BACK AFTER ALL IS DESTROYED.

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Yes that’s correct. They made sure that have the maximum that is available.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_underground29.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_underground.htm#Additional_Information

I hear you, I can not be involved into this anymore but your questions were very important.
I understand where you coming from. Rest insured that my intentions are not to harm, but to help.

ONAWAH: THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT. IT HAS BEEN HELPFUL TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SEE HOW ONE MIGHT FILL IN THE GAPS ABOUT THESE PREDICTIONS FROM VARIOUS SOURCES THAT JUST DID NOT SEEM TO ADD UP.

Eric J (Viking)
24th September 2010, 08:55
He mentions an ET race called Quetzal, this is the first time I've heard that name related to a ET race, anybody else here have information about this? Also it's almost impossible not to compare it with Quetzacoal in Maya and mexican traditions.

Hi Cloud ...

Yes I have asked the same question to Pane... There is not alot of info regarding the Quetzal Race ...

The only thing I can say is that I did remember vaguely reading Quetzal in the Journels...

This is the only connection that I can find... have a good read and tell me what you think!

*****

"TROUBLED WATERS

We of the Hosts, the winged tribes, arrive in this age, not just to materialize, but to literally walk among you as we clear the path for the Godly Presence. We are coming back at this time on a wave of light, a pulsation of new inten*sity. We have the ability to ma*terialize through drawing atoms and molecules into our light fields, but it is not for this that we are here. We are looking for biological incarnations in the specific human beings whose pre*sent bodies have grown from fetuses that have unfolded along the vibrational patterns of our light.

It is we who designed your human bodies, but you have grown up in a civiliza*tion that denies both our presence and our reality. And so we breathe in you again and again, each breath fuller than the breath before, each pulsation brighter, each new communication clearer, penetrating further into your un*derstanding.

Let us awaken you, we who have formed you in the womb, we who have called you from the tomb of sleeping matter. You, whose physical circuitry mirrors our being, welcome us into your consciousness.

When you experience our spirit presence, you know yourself in the image of that which God holds for you, the image of perfection in which God has cre*ated you. God’s living image of you reflects God. It does not rest frozen like a photograph in a frame. The perfect images in which God holds each human being are alive and changing, flowing, fluid images. One day a servant, the next a lover, the next a sister, a brother, a spouse, a teacher or a friend. (All the aforemen*tioned are one and the same as you meditate upon it.)

We understand God’s images for humanity, for that is what we are! We are individualized, liv*ing images of God, designed to draw more than just your physical bodies into our energy pat*terns; we are de*signed to blend with your consciousness, with your understanding, and with the field of your emotional expression. We are here in the atmosphere of your consciousness to draw you into clear and ac*curate perception, that together in cooperative harmony we might commence a new cycle of creation.

We come to the earth to blend with you in the communion that will give birth to the Creator in time. We work with whatever forms of understanding you allow us to animate. Our love has called up out of the earth the bodies of your race. Feel that love and know your spirit. We offer you more than words; we offer ourselves.

O children, we have lived and died in so many of you. And we live in you again, again and again. Your fearful human generations are like waves of cold sea water or a mountain stream, splash*ing on our warm eternal shores. You can keep being afraid and receding with each cold wave to experience again and yet again. Or you can begin to watch the waves, the waves of your genera*tion’s fears, the waves and pulses of your society’s illusions, the waves of emotional con*trol, and realize that you are NOT the waves.

The humanly-defined world is constantly in change. It has its mo*mentary drama, a wave of emo*tional turmoil that seems to have the ability to put fear into the hearts of ones more than ever before. But no matter how wild and turbu*lent the waves of your culture’s gods become during these last days be*fore such illusions vanish, be not the waves of fear, nor influenced by them. The birds have always floated on the surface of such waves—storms have crashed armadas, sunk galleons and watched angry warriors perish beneath their fury—ever the birds have floated undisturbed, above the wreckage, above the tur*bulence, above the waves, gentle, serene. WE ARE THE “BIRD TRIBES” RETURNING TO ASSIST OUR FLEDGLINGS—WE ARE THE RE*BIRTH OF THE SYMBOL OF GOD’S FREEDOM AND RENEWAL—THE QUET*ZAL/PHOENIX! We are the colors of the rainbow and the wondrous pulse of the waves of en*ergy throughout the cosmos—we are the Hosts to welcome you back into the House of God.

“Times” need not be troublesome for you humans of this closing age. For wherever there is just one that does not succumb to the emo*tional undercur*rents of fear that would herd you like sheep into some collective folly, there radiates an influence of peace, sta*bility, healing and blessing. God will am*plify the influence of that ONE and blend it with the influence of others who are incar*nate and doing of the same. Through these will pour the peace and understanding as well as the strength of direction. No sea shall rise against them!

Full article here...
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/bellringers_corner/vital_articles/news.php?q=1283873598

Now just to let you all know I have spoken to Pane briefly about this and he has stated that there is no connection with the 'Bird Tribe' ... however I do believe that the Journels provide us with the true history (his-story) of mankind on this planet as well as detailed information about the most asked about and wondered about subjects (i.e., Spirituality, E.T.'s, our origin, our purpose here on this planet, etc ect ...

Thoughts anyone???

viking

Nagual
24th September 2010, 14:36
nagual




with respect, but this is very far off from the interpretation you have given in the first place god-king-man...you said



i[SIZE="3"] know very little myself, but you don't have to know so much to look it up in the dictionary and find that naraaH is a plural meaning people, men and not: a man...ratha is far off from rathsa if we take into consideration that sanskrit is a phonetic language and EVERY sound/ letter is pronounced..nothig is dropped...maybe synthetised, but not dropped...how does then ratha becomes rathsa? sorry but i think that the german scholar gave it a very loose interpretation...and where is GOD in all this..and the KING? ra in sanskrit indicates a movement and prefix ra is used to indiceate things that are moving including sun's movement...maybe that's where he drew a very loose connection and that's if we understand that the sun itslef is god (one of the gods)..out of curiosity, what's the name of the german scholar? thanks l


if you can't remember, do not worry, we've gone off topic, slightly...

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and by the way, by no standards can Narehs Rathsa’ be pure sanskrit....no..

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lightblue,

i'll try to get a 'proper explanation' from the German researcher, and as soon as this happen i'll post it here. promised. ;)

I know I’m slightly off-topic, but I promised to post the answer received from the german researcher, so here we go...




The book "We are the Nibiruans" by Jelaila Starr

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4199FJ080ZL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

– allegedly an Anunnaki walk-in – (The Nibiruan Council, Lenexa KS, 4th ed., no year stated) is a remarkable collection of disinformation about the Nîbiruans (Anunnaki), apparently created to polish their image beyond truth.
It claims to contain a message from Anu about the “History of Universe & Earth” which, compared to the texts of the Sumerian clay tablets and modern texts like Bringers of the Dawn by Barbara Marciniak, reveals itself as distorted and manipulative.

The Sumerian Creation Story in Enûma Elish

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_aliens/vidaalien25_enuma3.jpg

clearly states that the prime creators Apsû and Tiâmat were murdered!
They created three generations of gods of which the main entities were:
• Lahmu and Lahâmu
• Anshar und Kishar
• Anu, his son Ea (=Enki, Nudimmud), etc.

In the book – that makes the impression to be a channeling from Anu – he claims that their people originate from the Pleiades. If that is so, it would have to be before their fall into the darker regions, since it would otherwise hardly fit with Bringers of the Dawn, which is one of the very few channelings which appears to be quite genuine.
He describes Nibiru as not a planet, but a battle starship, of which he was a commander. The way he describes himself as he looks, he reminds of certain pictures of Ashtar Sheran.

Ashtar Sheran’s name read backwards becomes Naresh Ratscha, which is Sanskrit, better spelled Naresh Raja, which means “man-god king” (nara = “man” and isha = “god” according to the rule of sandhi in the Sanskrit grammar become naresha when written together, pronounced naresh in to-day’s Hindi; raja = king).

One source claims that he would be a Pleiadian renegade.
He himself claims to come from a planet called Nirbua, which sounds a lot like Nibiru… He channels since decades through various persons.
His real name is said to be Aruseak.
If Anu of the book by Starr (being the real Anu or not) was such a commander, originating from the Pleiadians (where he is no more) and describes himself as looking quite like Ashtar Sheran is said to look, one may certainly wonder about these parallels …

onawah
24th September 2010, 15:47
Please excuse me, but I'm not sure why this name business and the bird tribe information is very important to the core subject matter of this thread. I think the core topic is very important, so I would be very grateful if we could get back on track. Astral Walker has indicated he might not return to the forum any time soon, and so I would like him to feel welcome and respected so that he will return. Thank you.

lightblue
25th September 2010, 10:16
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hi astralwalker

in your presentation you say that the sun swelling would anihilate mercury and venus ..is that what you really meant? if so, at that point the life on our planet shall be no longer either...doesn't that follow? i mean the conditions would be impossible to sustain life as we understand it.. if this is correct, isn't your entire presentation about the 30 seconds in which to take care of our soul essence? thank you :unsure: l




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lightblue
25th September 2010, 18:35
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would also like to know - when in touch with the ets you communicate with, do you get any up to date info you may want to share? in other words, do you get any follow up from them? thanks :) l


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onawah
25th September 2010, 19:51
It would be very instructive to get someone's take on Astral Walker's information about the Chandra Observatory, blue beams coming from space, etc.compared with the work of Dr. Paul LaViolette.
I caught his lecture at a UFO Conference and I have no doubt he is in the top of his field, but I was not quite ready to deal with what he was saying at the time. I think it's time now!!
See:
http://www.etheric.com/LaVioletteBooks/Book-EUF.html

"Based on four years of doctoral research and 10 years of postdoctoral research
Fifteen previously published predictions now confirmed by observation.

Earth Under Fire:
Humanity's Survival of the Ice Age

by Paul A. LaViolette

Bear & Co., Rochester, VT, 2005
Paperback: 448 pages, ISBN 1-59143-052-4, $20.00 USD

To order click here.

The Earth Under Fire video, and CDROM are also available.

Many ancient myths from around the world tell catastrophic destruction by fire and flood. These ubiquitous legends are so extreme that they are often dismissed as imaginative exaggerations. In Earth Under Fire, Paul LaViolette connects these "myths" to recent scientific findings in astronomy, geology, and archaeology to reconstruct the details of prehistoric global disasters and to explain how similar tragedies could recur in the near future.

Compelled by his decryption of an ancient warning hidden in zodiac constellation lore, LaViolette worked with information from many scientific sources, including astronomical observations, polar ice core measurements, and other geological data, to confirm that our Galaxy's core exploded, unleashing a barrage of cosmic rays that arrived near the end of the last ice age. This barrage caused the solar system to become enveloped in a dense nebula, which led to periods of persistent darkness, frigid cold, severe solar storms, searing heat, and mountainous floods that plagued mankind for many generations. Linking his scientific findings to details preserved in ancient myths and monuments, he demonstrates how past civilizations accurately recorded the causes of these cataclysmic events, knowledge of which may be crucial for the human race to survive the next superwave cycle. This information reveals the intelligence and ingenuity of our ancestors who, when faced with extinction, found the means to warn us that the apocalypse that destroyed them could occur once again virtually without warning.

Earth Under Fire is captivatingly written and illustrated with 115 photos and diagrams. It demonstrates how ancient myths and lores have preserved an accurate record of a missing era in human history, knowledge of which may be crucial for our own future survival. The story related in Earth Under Fire will be something you will teach your children and your children's children.

Galactic tsunami is another name for Galactic superwave. The name "Galactic superwave" was first coined by Paul LaViolette and appeared for the first time in his doctoral thesis published in 1983.

How to prepare for the coming superwave event.

Will a superwave arrive on 2012? The likelihood of a superwave event occurring in the near future.

LaViolette informed Congress about the phenomenon as early as 1984; see letter from Senator Packwood to the National Science Foundation.

To learn of the possible Galactic cause of the 2004 Malaysian tsunami, click here.

Is a crustal shift scenario likely, as suggested in the fantasy adventure movie 2012.

A novel by David Souers entitled Galactic Tsunami was inspired from Paul LaViolette's book Earth Under Fire.

Project Camelot Interview (July 2009):
Paul LaViolette speaking about Galactic superwaves


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oURVtGKW420&feature=player_embedded

Earth Under Fire

An investigation of the connection between ancient world catastrophe myths and modern scientific evidence of a galactic destruction cycle.

* Provides scientific evidence of past Earth-wide catastrophes and their galactic superwave origins.

* Decodes the ancient message encrypted in the zodiac constellations and symbolism of the Sphinx.

* Explains the memorial significance of the Orion constellation, the Pleiadian rites, and the Minoan bull-leaping ceremony.

* Compiles myths and legends from all over the world relating the occurrence of a past cataclysm.

* Describes what caused the mammoths to suddenly die and freeze in the Arctic and what caused the extinction of the ice age mammals.

* Deciphers the Galactic constellation lore of the South American Barasana Indians.

* Explains what Plato's allegorical story of Atlantis and the Flood was really trying to convey.

* Reviews evidence buried deep in the Earth's polar ice record and from the Moon and Mars that proves that this cosmic onslaught really occurred.

* Describes how explosions of our Galaxy's core pose a threat to humanity in the future.

Galactic Astrology, by Kathie Garcia --- A feature article on Earth Under Fire

Acclaim for Earth Under Fire

Laura Lee, The Laura Lee Show

In his latest book, Paul LaViolette unearths fascinating evidence of the scientific advancement of an antediluvian culture that met with an untimely demise. Page by page and chapter by chapter, he takes us through a keen analysis of ancient myth, legend, and lore to discover the amazing lost history of our race. We are led to understand the intelligence and ingenuity of a people who, while faced with extinction, found the means to communicate over the millennia to warn us that the apocalypse that destroyed their race could occur again.
Andrew Rothovius, Fate magazine

This book is a well-reasoned and persuasive variation on the currently popular theme of Earth catastrophes caused by comet and meteorite impacts. LaViolette proposes that the Earth is also subjected, at intervals of thousands of years, to the effects of chilling clouds of cosmic dust and sudden surges of devastating heat from the Sun, caused by recurring tremendous explosions in the center of our galaxy. . . This is a book that both fascinates and frightens. -- [Review continues on next page]

Armando Canales, The Critical Review

As our world draws near to the year 2000, there is an increased interest in catastrophes, prophecies, and past civilizations as well as earth changes.
In this fascinating work, Paul LaViolette brings together past legends, myths, and prophecies and blends them together with new physics, and with his unique interpretation of astronomical bodies and astrological symbols. He also explores ancient documents and structures as well as past catastrophes to get a grasp of cosmic cycles.
He builds a convincing case for his complex theory. By interpreting constellations and astrological symbols in light of his new physics [as well as past esoterica] he describes an "ether" physics. His thinking is complex and I cannot state whether he is right or not in his interpretation.
This work may make LaViolette the new Velikovsky. The author presents one of the most amazing studies of cosmic cataclysmic cycles ever put into print. His theory explains and integrates various types of disasters such as floods and/or great temperature variations. Using ancient legends and observations he strengthens his case for a cyclic cosmos. In past ages men began to understand the behavior of the galactic center as well as other influences. The past records document a phase of activity that will come around again as everything attempts to balance out. He thus explains the thermal extremes found in nature. These always seem to strive for balance. Modern science has missed this obvious fact and instead swims blindly in its uniformitarianism, not seeing the coming tidal waves of change.
LaViolette's study is brilliant and is steeped in research and interdisciplinary study. His theories deserve serious analysis from the scientific community. The author provides a large amount of material for further study. The amateur [non-scientist] will want to follow up and read the sources referenced in his notes.
This work is timely as well as important. Why, humanity's well being is at stake! EARTH UNDER FIRE is a valuable addition to the literature on cosmology and earth changes. Fantastic reading!

Gerry Zeitlin, Appendix I: Human/ET Contact in Ancient Times (Openseti.org)

The cosmology of Dr. Paul LaViolette's Subquantum Kinetics (a revolutionary physics model) converges with the symbols of astrology, tarot, and the lore of many ancient myth systems in his stunning works Genesis of the Cosmos: The Ancient Science of Continuous Creation (2004), Earth Under Fire (1997) and other books mentioned on this website. LaViolette's thesis is too large to be conveyed by any one of his books. Each develops one part and reviews the other interfacing pieces. . .

. . . LaViolette's work successfully draws on an astonishing array of disciplines -- high-energy physics, galactic and extragalactic astronomy, geophysics, geochemistry, climatology, glaciology, paleontology, archaeology and mythology -- and does it with such mastery that one wonders what has kept it on the margins for so long. It is not for any lack of erudition and scholarly treatment of the data. The only answer can be that he has offended the masters of each field by revealing their oversights, their illogic, and their refusal to address their unresolved issues. By avoiding the pitfalls and building on the best information available in each area, LaViolette has constructed a significant new world view -- one which is charged with meaning and even urgency for us in our times.

For the complete review click here: Openseti.org commentary

More reviews of Earth Under Fire

Radio Orbit Interview with Mike Hagen
January 30, 2006"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIMYlKzYTig&feature=player_embedded

onawah
26th September 2010, 00:07
In the PC interview with LaViolette, at the very end he talks about the info from crop circles Astral Walker mentions, and postulates that ithey may be indicating that the superwave might hit our solar system in 2035, not in 2013.
This from a synopsis of a Coast to Coast interview with LaViolette at http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2005/12/27

"LaViolette(1) was the guest for the first three hours, sharing his theories on such topics as galactic waves and pulsar communications.He believes there is evidence for a cycle of galactic superwaves that emanate from the center of galaxy and wreak cataclysmic earth changes when they arrive here. Such blasts of cosmic rays cause the sun to become more active and trigger climate change, earthquakes and mass extinctions, he said. Correlating this to the Hopi Prophecy of the Blue Star, which talks about the ending of a world, he noted that "when the galactic core erupts it would give off a bluish-white light."
There is a 90% chance that a superwave could arrive in the next 300-400 years, said LaViolette, who related that every ancient culture or civilization has stories about this, such as the Great Flood.Further, he believes that an advanced race of galactic beings has been attempting to warn us of the superwaves using pulsars as their communication method. The pulsars do not appear to be natural and convey a geometrical message by pointing to locations of previous super novas, he said. Using neutron stars as their power source, the pulsars could also be employed as a guidance system for interstellar travel, he added.
LaViolette also presented his alternative theory to the Big Bang, which posits that energy and matter are being continuously created."

onawah
26th September 2010, 21:27
This new talk by David Wilcock ties into this information also. Tinteglacave posted the link (which will have a second part soon) at the thread
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?5894-DAVID-ON-REVELATIONS-RADIO-WITH-WILLIAM-HENRY-Sept.-15-2010

Snowy Owl
26th September 2010, 22:58
We must rembered that in the last week of 2012, the most gargantuesque European and US money makers of the whole history of mankind, the Federal Reserve lease will end after its 99 years adoption by the congress in the week of christmas break, while almost no one was there. It ends after 21st 2012. Did the Bankers were aware of something ???

giovonni
29th September 2010, 21:39
Much thanks Pane ~
For your great effort and time in compiling > this extremely important info into one reference source -e-book!

Also my thanks to you ~ djmoder ~ for posting the thread.

Ahh... to stay mute or transmute ~ now -that is the question?
Whether > tis noble to remain silent and suffer the slings and arrows of the Federal Reserve
or morph from a caterpillar into a beautiful Butterfly! :tinfoil3:

hyundisonata
3rd October 2010, 13:48
Hi people, I am new here but not new to Camelot. No doubt judging from some posts I have read on this site a few of you enjoy slipping into ridicule mode lol. Anyway that’s water off a ducks back to me.

It was ASTRALS work that led me to join this site, until now he has been the only one I have come across with a clue to what is coming. Ok he isn’t spot on but still close to the truth in parts.
Yip there is a nasty little old hurricane heading our way from out side our universe but we will not suffer the worst until 2027 and even then you still have a few years. Three in fact. So sorry to disappoint the 2012 myth believers. Yes there are arks parked up by the sun, four to be exact. And another two running for their lives. This is the big problem with humanity .they think that they are supreme yip the only life there is. Again sorry people you are but a drop in the ocean. Its like rats deserting the sinking ship in deep space just now but unlike us there are those that care about their neighbours and have been working together to save as much as possible . Where as we would turn our backs on them and think of ourselves only. Nope I haven’t a very high opinion of humanity or their violent ways. ET has been working hard to save as much as possible and yes people that includes us. NASA knows this and have lied to the world for long enough. This is where the ridicule merchants will have fun lol. My information comes from the horses mouth, yip good old ET. Took me long enough to get to the point of understanding before I started listening to what ET had to say. Until then my sole intent was to kill them. On one of my many talks with ET I slowly started to understand that ET was not my enemy but my friend and had no intent to harm me, yip it finally sunk into the old grey matter and my two brain cells kicked into gear and started working lol.

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=alienabduction&action=display&num=1186266610
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=crashes&action=display&num=1202520080
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1212582915

The above is links to posts I made when trying to find answers to what had turned my life upside down, slowly I started to get the truth and my hatred for ET dispersed. The following link is part of a conversation I had with ET, I never told all that was said only the warning they gave. So I posted it on UFO casebook back in April. You will notice it gives a similar warning to astrals warning. All my contact and abductions with ET have been witnessed and always happened when active such as driving or walking the dogs ECT. Sorry debunkers I have not as far as I am aware had contact whilst sleeping in bed lol.
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=alienabduction&action=display&num=1270840554
Ok maybe the sun will swell and swallow the earth but we will have long gone one way or another before that happens so it’s irrelevant. You have a lot of disasters coming your way long before the end happens , simple stuff like all the satellites falling to earth due to the earths atmosphere expanding , don’t think a hard hat will be of use lol. earth quakes , hurricanes, drought, mass murder as the Asian peoples migrate north into Europe in search of food water and shelter due to the fact their countries will no longer be able to support them or even exist .yip bumpy ride ahead.

Truthseeker360
5th October 2010, 23:27
Pane...

As always great to read your work...

Keep it coming bro....


Oneness calls the matrix falls

Truthseeker360

qbeac
16th October 2010, 12:55
Hi everyone, Astralwalker has done a wonderfull research job, congratulations to him.

I’ve tried to download his pdf file at this link:

Pdf format: http://www.box.net/shared/1hvnjrfd26

… but it doesn’t allow me to download it because it says :

“The user hosting this
content is out of bandwidth.”
Please, does anybody know another working link to download the pdf file from?

Thanks. qbeac.

Kra
16th October 2010, 13:17
Please, does anybody know another working link to download the pdf file from?

Thanks. qbeac.
There you go... i uploaded the pdf on uploaded.to here is the link: http://uploaded.to/file/ma9lj0

qbeac
16th October 2010, 14:13
There you go... i uploaded the pdf on uploaded.to here is the link: http://uploaded.to/file/ma9lj0
Thank you very much, Kra!!!

For those of you who can understand Spanish, we have been debating about “The Anglo Saxon Mission” during a few months by now at this link, which already has more than 34000 views:

Misión Anglosajona: ¿Qué planea el gobierno en la sombra para el 2012 y después?
http://zonaforo.meristation.com/foros/viewtopic.php?t=1527876

... and many of the conclussions we are reaching at are very similar to what Astralwalker says. In the previous link there is a lot of information about many of the topics Astralwalker is talking about.

I haven’t yet studied all the research job from Astralwalker, but I would like to do it in order to compare notes and information, and to see if our conclusions are similar or not.

For instance, one of the most interesting videos and web sites I have seen so far is this one (highly recommend!!!):

The Giza Geomatrix
"Chicago Presentation" (Dont's miss this vídeo!!!)
http://www.gizamap.com/sub/movies/en/index.html

Home presentacion inicial: http://www.gizamap.com
Home page: http://www.gizamap.com/geomatrix/

Niobe
16th October 2010, 14:39
This latest work from Astralwalker answered some of my questions that I haven't been able to find an answer to, previously. Thank you, OP, for posting.
Qbeac- I like the site you linked. Just looked at the movie "Earth Protection Movie", which was informative, short and nice to view. My only complaint is that
the frames move too fast and I couldn't read all of the text. Thanks for posting as well. :)

qbeac
16th October 2010, 16:02
Qbeac- I like the site you linked. Just looked at the movie "Earth Protection Movie", which was informative, short and nice to view. My only complaint is that
the frames move too fast and I couldn't read all of the text. Thanks for posting as well. :)
yes, Niobe, you’re right, that’s what I thought too, they should include a stop button to pause the presentation if you need to read the texts. I believe they might improve that web site in the near future, let’s hope so.

With regards to the Giza Geomatrix videos, don’t miss the “Chicago Presentation” video, that’s a very good one:

The Giza Geomatrix
"Chicago Presentation"
http://www.gizamap.com/sub/movies/en/index.html

djmoder
19th October 2010, 01:39
Hi every one,

I have been here for a while. Recently there is a problem with bandwidth limit on Box.net for the PDF file. Therefore I move the book to a new location and can be downloaded here (https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0BzHghbfZ-yhpNTRkZTdjZDMtNGExMy00YmRjLWFkNTQtYTVlZmNjNmQyNjlm&hl=en) This version is the latest version from Astral Walker. It contains ~20 addition pages and worth further reading. If any have problem downloading the file, please let know.

Thanks.

qbeac
19th October 2010, 18:54
Hi every one,

I have been here for a while. Recently there is a problem with bandwidth limit on Box.net for the PDF file. Therefore I move the book to a new location and can be downloaded here (https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0BzHghbfZ-yhpNTRkZTdjZDMtNGExMy00YmRjLWFkNTQtYTVlZmNjNmQyNjlm&hl=en) This version is the latest version from Astral Walker. It contains ~20 addition pages and worth further reading. If any have problem downloading the file, please let know.

Thanks.
Thank you, djmoder, I have already downloaded it and am looking forward to reading it.

People, have you seen already the video I posted in my last post?… I mean this one:

The Giza Geomatrix
"Chicago Presentation"
http://www.gizamap.com/sub/movies/en/index.html

Do you think what they say in that video is truth or not?

I mean the part where the author says they have found a way to prevent the alleged 2012 cataclysm by placing inside the Great Pyramid some sort of technical device which is now supposedly located in the chest of Pharaoh Khufu.

That device should activate the Great Pyramid and many other ones around the world and fix the “Earth Protection System” (electromagnetic field) to prevent the cataclysm.

For more details about it, see this post 73:

Post 73, pag. 8. (The Anglo-Saxon Mission)
More details about the video "The Giza Geomatrix, Chicago Presentation"
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission&p=60670&viewfull=1#post60670

What do you think about it?

atut
2nd January 2011, 16:54
Where is he now? Why doesn't he active anymore in this forum?
He used to contribute a lot in the old forum with thread "2012 Nexus Event – Unknown Form of Energy comes our way!"

I like his information a lot. Hope he can share more information in this forum.

Mutchie
2nd January 2011, 17:32
Fantastic information i couldnt tear myself away - nasa has warned us of the dangers of solar storms in 2012 and after watching Richard C Hoaglands 2012 kennedy obama video it seems the US goverment and other goverments have KNOWN THIS WAS COMING FOR A LONG TIME NOW ...... different people have differing ideas but the sun is nearly always involved patrick geryl believes a massive coronal ejection will cause a pole shift so severe it would wipe us out this guy talks of the sun swallowing mercury and venus and i dont know enough about the sun to pass comment but his work seems well laid out - so far we have norway building the seedbank and countrys all over building underground bases and there is much more evidence than that are we looking at an EXTINTION LEVEL EVENT ? :confused: We know the population of the world is far to high so it stands to reason that this may be a natural way of DRAMATICALLY REDUCING the numbers......