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EYES WIDE OPEN
19th September 2010, 14:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne1FJBVkh4s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne1FJBVkh4s&feature=channel

57 seconds in.

Now check this out from the same clip. (zoomed and stabalised)

Footage of a cutter charge slicing through the building:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMnTGieS9Hk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMnTGieS9Hk

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Here is some more info about the footage. Its very exiting and intersting as its all from NIST who were forced to release it...


The International Center for 9/11 Studies has secured the release of hundreds of hours of video footage and tens of thousands of photographs used by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) for its investigation of the collapse of the World Trade Center Twin Towers and Building 7. This material is being released to the Center under the Freedom of Information Act, in response to a lawsuit the Center filed against NIST.

The Center filed a FOIA Request with NIST on January 26, 2009, seeking production of “all of the photographs and videos collected, reviewed, cited or in any other way used by NIST during its investigation of the World Trade Center building collapses.” Following several unsuccessful attempts to get NIST to even acknowledge receipt of the Request, the Center was forced to file a lawsuit on May 28, 2009. Shortly after the lawsuit was filed, the Request was assigned a reference number, and NIST began periodically releasing batches of responsive records. To date, the Center has received over 300 DVDs and several external hard disk drives that contain responsive records - more than 3 terabytes of data so far – and NIST has indicated that additional records will be released in the future.

We are currently looking at the best ways to distribute these materials to interested researchers and journalists around the world. It has taken NIST more than 8 months so far to produce a partial archive of photographs and videos in their possession, but we hope to be more efficient in our efforts. Because of the huge volume of data, we are working on a wiki-style website to facilitate review and discussion of any interesting items that are discovered by researchers.

Justin Keogh, our Chief Technical Officer, is preparing the website and materials for release. The first batch of materials we are releasing is a group of video clips sent to us on an external hard disk drive labeled “NIST WTC Investigation Cumulus Video Clips.” We believe NIST entered these clips into a searchable database called the Cumulus database, and used them as the basis for the investigation and reports. Researchers may be interested to see which video clips NIST determined were important to its investigation, and compare these clips to the raw footage we release at a later date. Justin will be posting more details about the data release in the next week or two. Any questions about the FOIA Request, lawsuit, or data release should be submitted via the Contact Us page at the Center’s website: http://www.ic911studies.org/Contact_Us.html

Although the Center has extremely limited resources with which it can review this mountain of data, several interesting items have already been discovered. Below are five items the Center has uncovered so far. The items below have not been altered from the original provided by NIST, except in three cases where a short section of footage was extracted from a much longer video. Otherwise, no alterations have been made to the video or audio. For the best viewing experience, you should watch all of the videos below in the highest resolution available. We will supplement the list below in the coming days and weeks.

EYES WIDE OPEN
19th September 2010, 14:38
Audio Evidence of Explosions During Collapse

Several videos released to the Center have clear audio tracks that contain distinct sounds of explosions occurring at the World Trade Center. These audio tracks provide support to the many eyewitness statements referring to explosions occurring when the buildings collapsed. Explosions can be heard at the initiation of the South Tower collapse in the following two videos. The explosions are clear enough at normal volumes, but turning your speaker volume up a bit can help provide a full appreciation of the sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0a3Iz6Z0tg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fNLz8zWwaM&feature=player_embedded

In the next video, a loud, low-frequency boom can be heard just before the east penthouse of WTC 7 falls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrnmbUDeHus&feature=player_embedded

EYES WIDE OPEN
19th September 2010, 14:45
New very clear footage released by A professional cameraman (Steve Vigilante) of stunning footage of the towers taken soon after the first impact, capturing the south tower impact while focused on WTC1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwKQXsXJDX4

As previously noted by several astute observers, large simultaneous explosions occurred in WTC1 at the moment WTC2 was struck. This need closer examination. It might be a vaccum from the explosion.

In Steve Vigilante's footage a brief flash appears at a window, followed immediately by an explosion and the appearance of a new plume of dark smoke. I circled that flash-explosion (and another flash) in this 40 frame extract, best seen at 480p in full screen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEeWCg1y6i8&feature=player_embedded

EYES WIDE OPEN
19th September 2010, 14:52
Missing Video

Several clips from the Cumulus database show signs of editing. In the two video clips below, the collapse of the penthouse of World Trade Center 7 is cut out of the video. These videos happen to have been filmed from close to WTC 7, and have a high quality soundtrack that would have picked up explosion sounds from the charges that severed the columns supporting the penthouse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH_Lv_sevwY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyhMTOdRnRo

Another clip from the Cumulus database (below) begins after initiation of the WTC 7 collapse. The soundtrack is curiously silent during the entire collapse, only to turn on after the collapse has already finished. What are NIST up to?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT3ea4AC2K8&feature=player_embedded

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The vast majority of this material has not been examined. We need the communities help to make it happen. The entire 3+TB dataset will be posted in stages via bittorrent in the upcoming days and weeks. We also have a plan to make it available for traditional download. If you have PHP or Python web programming experience, or if you are one of the people still seeding the 26GB ABC FOIA release, and you are interested in donating time to this and other related projects, please contact us.

http://www.ic911studies.org/Contact_Us.html

EYES WIDE OPEN
19th September 2010, 14:56
FLIR camera footage. Note tempreture on left. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQEd8PgY8vo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkN4WKHWYBM

EYES WIDE OPEN
20th September 2010, 11:18
The torrent will be posted this week as soon as enough seeds are up!

EYES WIDE OPEN
20th September 2010, 20:09
No comments on this yet? What do people think of the new footage?

Torrent will be up in the next 24-48 hours hopefully. Please download it as the more that do, the more that can help sift through the huge amount of data.

Zook
20th September 2010, 20:32
Hi EWO,


No comments on this yet? What do people think of the new footage?

Torrent will be up in the next 24-48 hours hopefully. Please download it as the more that do, the more that can help sift through the huge amount of data.

The twin tower videos corroborate the existing evidence for Inside Job. I'm not sure they are of good enough audio/video quality to prove Inside Job by themselves. OTOH, the Cumulus database NIST-manipulated clearly points to a case of the criminal investigating the crime.


Cheers
Uncle Zook

EYES WIDE OPEN
20th September 2010, 20:39
The white smoke is a dead giveaway for a thermite cutter charge on the 2nd clip

Beth
20th September 2010, 20:48
Thanks EWO, I haven't ever seen these videos. I appreciate you posting them

Dale
21st September 2010, 01:55
I just watched a few of the videos provided. Very incredible.

I've given a few presentations on 9/11, the run-up to the event, and the aftermath; so I always appreciate finding new information. It sounds like you have a thorough collection of videos going; if you need help with anything research related, send a message my way.

onawah
21st September 2010, 03:42
I've read a lot about 911, have some of the videos, and it was a very hot topic for me for a long time. But eventually it began to seem that no amount of evidence was going to be enough, because the real question is HOW will the truth finally come to the public's attention? Nothing would make me happier than to have Disclosure on this issue and a few others dear to our hearts on this forum... but HOW??

Anchor
21st September 2010, 04:58
Who : Dark elite
What: False flag terror consisting of spectacular, shock and awe style destruction of some buildings and lots of people
When: September 11, 2001 (and in fact at all subsequent opportunities to have staged "remembrances" and grief ceremony to keep the effects flowing)
Where: New York, USA
Why: Create an enduring climate of fear. Create a problem, for which the reaction/solution will ensue. Provide a method for a few people to get rich off the market distortions. Patriot act. etc...
How: A mixture of exotic and conventional demolition technology under the cover of a lot of subterfuge relating so some minor distraction of planes crashing into twin towers and other things flying into other targets (eg Pentagon) - most likely under computer assisted remote control

Fill in the gaps as appropriate.

I am always impressed at the tireless efforts that are being expended to uncover something that will tip the balance of the perceptions/beliefs of the majority. Uncovering the 911 truth may itself not be enough, but this coupled with the unravelling of the financial system will probably really start the "end game" for both the US and the control system that has the globe in its grip.

The Sword of Truth has a lot more work yet to do I think.

John..

jaybee
21st September 2010, 08:10
Before I continue.....:)

I want to make it clear that I don't think that 9/11 was an Inside Job per se.

But the mopping up (by the 'authorities') that happened AFTER the two airliners
smashed into the Twin Towers...is what has fueled the Inside Job CT. And that the
Insidee Job CT...itself...could be conspiracy based. To muddy the waters and misdirect
genuine truthseekers...away from what might actually have happened that day.

Post 5 on this thread is what I think happened...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?5389-A-documentary-more-powerful-than-Loose-Change-...-blows-the-lid-off-the-Inside-Job!






In the next video, a loud, low-frequency boom can be heard just before the east penthouse of WTC 7 falls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrnmbUDeHus&feature=player_embedded


When I watched this I felt annoyed that it was all washed out. BUT...then I slowed it all
right down...tap on the pause arrow to do this....12 seconds into the vid.

AND...I was struck by the way that the Penthouse collapsed...and how a kind of blob
of a bright light was there?????

I tried to find other videos showing this vital moment..but..strangley enough, I couldn't.
MMmmmmmmmmmm ???? Wonder why?
And maybe this explains why the video in question is washed out....to obscure the sky?

Other videos always seemed to start....after THAT vital moment.
Actually...just remembered there was ONE split screen one...but it didn't
show it as clearly as the one in the link above...will try and find it again later.



Then I came back to the thread and saw these videos....

Curiouser and curiouser.....:cool:





Missing Video

Several clips from the Cumulus database show signs of editing. In the two video clips below, the collapse of the penthouse of World Trade Center 7 is cut out of the video. These videos happen to have been filmed from close to WTC 7, and have a high quality soundtrack that would have picked up explosion sounds from the charges that severed the columns supporting the penthouse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH_Lv_sevwY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyhMTOdRnRo
]



Screen shots from the first YouTube link in this post of the WTC7 collapse.


http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/WTC7collapse-1.jpg




http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/UntitledbiggerWTCcollapse-1.jpg




What I'm thinking IS...that WTC7 could have been brought down with a kind of
energy weapon...or something similar..

Because it was badly damaged and had to be dealt with in such a way that it
fell into it's own footprint....


It's not beyond the realms of possibility that the Twin Towers...also had to be
dealt with in this way? At some point...

I would think that any skyscraper would have to have some design...or SOME PLAN...
about what to do....if it was badly damaged...so it would fall into it's own footprint.


Maybe Larry Silverstein was telling it as it really was regarding WTC7...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100&feature=related

Zook
21st September 2010, 12:57
Hi Mother Jayne,


Before I continue.....:)
I want to make it clear that I don't think that 9/11 was an Inside Job per se.


Each requires their own time to arrive at the truth. The truth will set you free once you arrive there and only when you arrive there. It will not come to you to unbind the chains. You have to go there.



But the mopping up (by the 'authorities') that happened AFTER the two airliners
smashed into the Twin Towers...is what has fueled the Inside Job CT. And that the
Insidee Job CT...itself...could be conspiracy based. To muddy the waters and misdirect
genuine truthseekers...away from what might actually have happened that day.


Analysis of what happened AFTER the two airliners impacted is precisely what derives the conclusion of Inside Job. When the law of conservation of linear momentum is applied in tandem with the kinematic free fall equation, h=0.5gt^2, there are no ifs, ands, or buts left to consider. Even knowledge of the exact method used in bringing down the towers is no longer required. For one thing becomes certain, and that is this, resistance below the falling mass has to be evacuated for virtual free fall to be achieved. You can accuse hypothetical hijackers for crashing putative planes into the twin towers; but it'll cost you 150 IQ points to also accuse them of evacuating resistance below the falling mass in order to achieve the observed result of virtual free fall. Most of us can't afford that much loss and still function as humans, even nominally. :ohwell:



[...]
Other videos always seemed to start....after THAT vital moment.
Actually...just remembered there was ONE split screen one...but it didn't
show it as clearly as the one in the link above...will try and find it again later.


That vital moment shows and sounds a key feature of bottom-up standard controlled demolition, e.g. the central kink created by explosive removal of key central core columns. Why NIST would crop the penthouse pre-roof collapse from the video is a question that they can only answer. You and I can only make conjectures.



Then I came back to the thread and saw these videos....
Curiouser and curiouser.....:cool:


At some point, the known laws of physics have to prevail over curiosity. Although nonstandard top-down controlled demolition was employed at the twin towers and standard bottom-up controlled demolition at WTC7, virtual free fall can be observed for all three structural collapses. And that can only point to the fact of resisting stationary mass below being sequentially evacuated as the dynamic mass above fell into it.



Screen shots from the first YouTube link in this post of the WTC7 collapse.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/WTC7collapse-1.jpg

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/UntitledbiggerWTCcollapse-1.jpg

What I'm thinking IS...that WTC7 could have been brought down with a kind of
energy weapon...or something similar..


Energy weapon? That's exotic. A dulling of Occam's Razor, if you will. Sure, I'll bite. But then, how does this *not* prove Inside Job, Mother Jayne? Do you think Saudi kings, let alone Saudi outlaws, would have access to such exotic weaponry?



Because it was badly damaged and had to be dealt with in such a way that it
fell into it's own footprint....


That would mean pre-wiring the structure for controlled demolition ... which would take several weeks. The decision to pull down WTC7 only had a window of about seven hours at most.



It's not beyond the realms of possibility that the Twin Towers...also had to be
dealt with in this way? At some point...
I would think that any skyscraper would have to have some design...or SOME PLAN...
about what to do....if it was badly damaged...so it would fall into it's own footprint.
Maybe Larry Silverstein was telling it as it really was regarding WTC7...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100&feature=related

Curious this ... no steel-framed structure prior to 9/11/2001 or after 9/11/2001 has ever been subject to controlled demolition using original-plan wiring. Usually such structures are prepared with additional wiring a month or so in advance before their controlled demolition. Larry Silverstein?? Hmm ... where shall we start to describe this bastion of rectitude, infinite compassion, and pillar of the art of propriety ... how about a twin-bill insurance policy?

Oh, Mother Jayne, Mother Jayne .. just when we were starting to agree with each other, this had to happen! LOL.


Cheers
Uncle Zook

jaybee
21st September 2010, 16:41
Uncle Zook, Uncle Zook.....what am I going to do with you? !!

Your 'nodes' are crumbling before your very eyes...LOL.



That vital moment shows and sounds a key feature of bottom-up standard controlled demolition, e.g. the central kink created by explosive removal of key central core columns.

If my spanking new theory on the WTC7 collapse is correct...then the HAARP? type
energy weapon...or what-ever it was...could have been aimed at the central core
column/s.

There might even have been a couple of them (energy blasts)....look at how
WTC7 is presented....it's just a 2D picture of it. The rest of the building has been
REMOVED from our sight...



Energy weapon? That's exotic. A dulling of Occam's Razor, if you will. Sure, I'll bite. But then, how does this *not* prove Inside Job, Mother Jayne? Do you think Saudi kings, let alone Saudi outlaws, would have access to such exotic weaponry?

C'mon....

As you very well know I'm talking about a controlled type demolition by the US Defence Dept?
Or who-ever would be called upon to do that kind of thing..

...because the building was badly damaged and had to be dealt with...
to make it fall into it's own footprint.

What I have suggested...and actually provided some evidence for? can answer
a couple of central-questions re. the way the collapse happened.




That would mean pre-wiring the structure for controlled demolition ... which would take several weeks. The decision to pull down WTC7 only had a window of about seven hours at most.


And THAT is why....hard-core CT believers...are not going to like my theory much.
For the Inside Job theory to stand.... you have to hold onto the traditional-style
controlled demolition...with wired up explosives. And why sound is important
I notice how we are encouraged to focus on sounds

BUT......an 'energy' weapon .....is a whole different ball-game...




Oh, Mother Jayne, Mother Jayne .. just when we were starting to agree with each other, this had to happen! LOL.


I know......what a palaver !.................:p




A couple more pics of the moment...that I am saying an energy weapon might have hit the
Penthouse on top of WTC7.

A split second before the other ones I showed...


http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/moreWTC7-1.jpg


and bigger...



http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/largermoreWTC7.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrnmbUDeHus&feature=player_embedded

Fredkc
21st September 2010, 16:57
Please assume I have inserted my usual 'off-topic' rant on behalf of the hundred, or so people who will be murdered today, over a lie, while all this is bandied about.
Carry on,
Fred

jaybee
21st September 2010, 17:06
Please assume I have inserted my usual 'off-topic' rant on behalf of the hundred, or so people who will be murdered today, over a lie, while all this is bandied about.
Carry on,
Fred

I can't personally save all those unfortunate people Fred.

And I guess.....neither can you...?

Or you wouldn't be sitting at the computer right now?

EYES WIDE OPEN
21st September 2010, 18:20
The cutter charge and flashes is the evidence of demolition many have been waiting for. These videos, just like all the others contain no evidence of scalar weapons. Lets stick to what we can see. Its the only way to be taken seriously and get a new investigation going so the families can have justice.

noxon medem
21st September 2010, 21:35
Interesting videos, and good to see the basis for a scientific and realistic approach.
Found this good footage of the collapse of south tower, with clear signs of use of
thermate and explosions timed with collapse.
..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMlMqGwGwGc&feature=related
..
ca 3.30 the fallout of molten metal from thermate-charges going off become visible
at 3.42 a flash of light, suggesting explosion inside can be seen in front right windows
and then countdown
to 3.47 when collapse ensue.

The anomalies in the fall of the buildingtop is clearly visible, how it is tilting and falling
over to the side, according to law of least resistance, and then strangely is allmost
pulled back to the center and fall freely in a more upright position.
..

jaybee
21st September 2010, 22:06
These videos, just like all the others contain no evidence of scalar weapons. .

I beg to differ.....:)

But it's up to people who look at this thread to make up their own minds...

Cheers...

EYES WIDE OPEN
25th September 2010, 12:15
The torrent has some problems so there is a delay in posting. some short clips have sound but no picture. this should be sorted by the end of this weekend and new torrent will be posted once there are enough send. probably at the end of next week. apologies.

Swami
25th September 2010, 15:39
I'm not much of a 9/11 reseacher but found this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiRnOsV1PBs

Hope it fits in this thread....

EYES WIDE OPEN
1st October 2010, 18:43
Guys. Something odd is going on. All the new NIST released videos I have posted and linked have the same error. They were fine yesterday. Also, the 9/11datasets site where the torrent was just posted is now down.....

edit. this is odd. it only seems to be the most important and damning clips that are down.

Beth
1st October 2010, 18:55
Guys. Something odd is going on. All the new NIST released videos I have posted and linked have the same error. They were fine yesterday. Also, the 9/11datasets site where the torrent was just posted is now down.....

edit. this is odd. it only seems to be the most important and damning clips that are down.

Are you talking about the ones you posted on this thread, or one's you were going to post?

EYES WIDE OPEN
1st October 2010, 19:42
Both. But its strange. The ones in this thread seems to be fine now.... I know that others have has the same problem too. Sometimes they work, sometimes they dont.

Beth
1st October 2010, 19:48
Both. But its strange. The ones in this thread seems to be fine now.... I know that others have has the same problem too. Sometimes they work, sometimes they dont.

I checked everyone of your links already posted and they all worked for me. Just wanted to let you know that.

Harley
2nd October 2010, 08:34
Interesting videos, and good to see the basis for a scientific and realistic approach.
Found this good footage of the collapse of south tower, with clear signs of use of
thermate and explosions timed with collapse.
..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMlMqGwGwGc&feature=related
..
ca 3.30 the fallout of molten metal from thermate-charges going off become visible
at 3.42 a flash of light, suggesting explosion inside can be seen in front right windows
and then countdown
to 3.47 when collapse ensue.

The anomalies in the fall of the buildingtop is clearly visible, how it is tilting and falling
over to the side, according to law of least resistance, and then strangely is allmost
pulled back to the center and fall freely in a more upright position.
..

Hi everyone.

I'd like someone to check this out to make sure I'm not seeing stars again. At first I didn't notice it, the second time I noticed a speck or two, and now the more I watch it they are really easy to see. On the side facing us, I'm seeing little teeny flashes of light and they are appearing WELL BELOW the smoke line. Most of what I'm seeing is not near or under the fire (on the left-hand corner of the building) so it's not slag dropping from that fire. These little sparkles or flashes of light begin occurring randomly starting around...OH MY! See the lowest and right-most hole where the black smoke is coming out (again, on the side facing us)? Now go to time 2:00 and focus your attention below that smoking window. At 2:15 there is a series of flashes, almost zipper-like, that run horizontally about one floor down from that smoking window. The more I watch it the more clear it is. Please someone tell me they see it! LOL After that I'm seeing many more flashes occurring all over the face, some in a series, and all WELL BELOW the smoke line. And they're all well-before the 3:30 time that noxon medem pointed out (above). If this were 8 or 16 mm film it could be attributed to flaws or specs on the film, but it's not. I wish I had some software but this is a new computer. Sorry for the really long explanation but it's hard to notice at first. I even went over it several times while I was typing this. Someone please check for me?

Another Sleepless Nite!

Thanks!

Zook
2nd October 2010, 08:55
Hi Harley,


Hi everyone.

I'd like someone to check this out to make sure I'm not seeing stars again. At first I didn't notice it, the second time I noticed a speck or two, and now the more I watch it they are really easy to see. On the side facing us, I'm seeing little teeny flashes of light and they are appearing WELL BELOW the smoke line. Most of what I'm seeing is not near or under the fire (on the left-hand corner of the building) so it's not slag dropping from that fire. These little sparkles or flashes of light begin occurring randomly starting around...OH MY! See the lowest and right-most hole where the black smoke is coming out (again, on the side facing us)? Now go to time 2:00 and focus your attention below that smoking window. At 2:15 there is a series of flashes, almost zipper-like, that run horizontally about one floor down from that smoking window. The more I watch it the more clear it is. Please someone tell me they see it! LOL After that I'm seeing many more flashes occurring all over the face, some in a series, and all WELL BELOW the smoke line. And they're all well-before the 3:30 time that noxon medem pointed out (above). If this were 8 or 16 mm film it could be attributed to flaws or specs on the film, but it's not. I wish I had some software but this is a new computer. Sorry for the really long explanation but it's hard to notice at first. I even went over it several times while I was typing this. Someone please check for me?

Another Sleepless Nite!

Thanks!

Yes, I see the flashes, too.

EYES WIDE OPEN
2nd October 2010, 09:47
I checked everyone of your links already posted and they all worked for me. Just wanted to let you know that.

Many thanks. Most helpful. Things seem o.k. now Very odd episode.

Good news. Nearly 6 seeders complete now and another 17 up and running. Will post the torrent shortly. Please dont leach and set your ratios fairly.

EYES WIDE OPEN
2nd October 2010, 09:54
Thank you for your work Harley. Well spotted! This is what we are hoping for. The torrent is huge. 88GB and will take a while to download but the good thing about torrents is that you dont need to wait until the end to start watching the clips. So get stuck in and start examining those videos! The more that do, the more evidence we have that the official story is a lie and the more chance of a new investigation being started.

Here is a clip from one of the best docs on 9/11 that shows how NIST have lied. Its a clip of Kevin Ryan who was fired from U.L. labs that did the steel tests because he told the truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmbWbkCnLRg

Harley
2nd October 2010, 10:00
Good deal EWO.

Are you taking notes of any anomalies that are being reported from here?

Thanks!

EYES WIDE OPEN
2nd October 2010, 10:23
There is a plan in place for clips that people want to examine. More details soon.

jaybee
2nd October 2010, 11:54
..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMlMqGwGwGc&feature=related
..
..


I have just watched this video....Judy Wood...discussing the collapse of the WTC towers.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8344867178250739868#



All of it is of interest...but if you want to go to 27:55....she is talking about
the collapse of the tower in the vid that noxon medem provided...above.

Interestingly she is proposing that SOME conventional explosives could have been
used to...'start it off'...before a Directed Energy Weapon was used to TURN THE
BUILDING TO DUST.


When these WTC Towers...and other HIGH skyscrapers were designed and built
there MUST have been plans and preparations on what to do if the buildings were
in danger of collapse....so that the minimum of damage was done to the surrounding
area.

(I am saying that these plans were put into action after the Towers were struck by
Airliners....hi-jacked and then piloted by Militant Islamic Jihadists...in an act of war
against the US.)


The use of DEWs to bring the Towers down...is obviously a closely guarded secret...
and I believe that part of guarding this mega-secret....we (on conspiracy forums and
the similar) are encouraged to believe that the Towers were brought down by conventional methods.

The general public are encouraged to believe that they just fell down because of the
damage + fires.

EYES WIDE OPEN
2nd October 2010, 14:18
It is my opinion that Judy wood and her theories in no way help when it comes to hard evidence and getting a new investigation open so that the 9/11 families can have justice. Infact, she has tainted the movement IMO. Here is why: (read and watch it all)
http://911blogger.com/node/18474 (In the video, she clearly has no idea what she is talking about and just goes in circles and cannot defend her ideas) & here: http://911blogger.com/node/17206

This thread is for info regarding the new videos NIST have been forced to release. Please make a seperate thread if you want to talk about Judy wood and her ideas. This is not the intended purpose of this thread. Thank you.

jaybee
2nd October 2010, 15:50
It is my opinion that Judy wood and her theories in no way help when it comes to hard evidence and getting a new investigation open so that the 9/11 families can have justice. Infact, she has tainted the movement IMO. Here is why: (read and watch it all)
http://911blogger.com/node/18474 (In the video, she clearly has no idea what she is talking about and just goes in circles and cannot defend her ideas) & here: http://911blogger.com/node/17206

This thread is for info regarding the new videos NIST have been forced to release. Please make a seperate thread if you want to talk about Judy wood and her ideas. This is not the intended purpose of this thread. Thank you.


Might I remind you that it was 3 of your NIST videos that gave ME another EUREKA moment
regarding the whole 9/11 business. (see my post 14)

I THEN came across the video of Judy Wood...re. DEW weapons...and was pleased at how
much evidence she presented to confirm what I was already considering as a very real
possibility....which I now regard as a PROBABILITY.

So I posted her video...to further what I had deduced from your NIST videos.

If Judy Wood is correct...she is bound to have all the infiltrators in the 9/11
'Truth Movement' on her case...trying to mis-direct people away from what she is
saying.


This is going to be a strange thread if you object to anyone like myself, putting forward
any alternative opinions....on the 'evidence' you wish to present.

It doesn't work like that on forums.

What if I DISAGREE with your evidence?

What if I don't think you have a strong case?

What if I don't consider what you present to be 'definitive proof' ?



:thumb:

EYES WIDE OPEN
2nd October 2010, 16:35
Might I remind you that it was 3 of your NIST videos that gave ME another EUREKA moment
regarding the whole 9/11 business. (see my post 14)

I THEN came across the video of Judy Wood...re. DEW weapons...and was pleased at how
much evidence she presented to confirm what I was already considering as a very real
possibility....which I now regard as a PROBABILITY.

So I posted her video...to further what I had deduced from your NIST videos.



That's fine. But this thread is for people to post interesting new videos from the NIST torrent that they may spot. Its fine to discuss individule videos but if you want discussion of Judy wood and her theories then it should not continue in this thread as this thread does not offer the scope for that. This thread would just end up being a discussion about Judy Wood and many other potentialy important videos may get lost in the mix. Its a simple request. I do not object to anyone voicing their opinions but I will object if this thread is hijacked. I think my request is a fair one. I can start a separate Judy wood thread for you if you like. :) Then everyone is happy.

Beth
2nd October 2010, 17:03
Okay boys! :focus:

jaybee
2nd October 2010, 17:11
Hey Beth....I'm a girl...well a 56 year old woman, actually....;)

Beth
2nd October 2010, 17:45
Hey Beth....I'm a girl...well a 56 year old woman, actually....;)

Oopsadaisy, sorry!!!

EYES WIDE OPEN
2nd October 2010, 20:46
O.K. guys - here we go.... I can now go ahead and post the info - its all up and running. Please dont leech the torrent! Be fair. :-)


As we announced on August 31, 2010, the International Center for 9/11 Studies has secured the release of tens of thousands of photographs, and hundreds of hours of video footage, from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) under the Freedom of Information Act. We are working on ways to get this data in the hands of interested researchers, we need the communities help to examine this material, much of which has not been seen before.

We are pleased to announce that we have made our first release of this material available for download. This first release is the "NIST Cumulus Video" folder which is part of the NIST Cumulus Database we received. It contains over 6500 video clips that NIST used in its investigation. It is important to note that NIST did not voluntarily turn over the entire Cumulus database to us. The alleged copyright holders of a small amount of material in the Cumulus database objected to NIST releasing their materials, and NIST complied with all such requests. We are currently engaged in litigation against NIST, and will continue fighting for complete release of these materials.


The original "NIST Cumulus Video" folder is approximately 924GB. To make it possible to distribute, we encoded it using the x264 software library. The result is roughly 86GB and has no noticeable difference in quality. (See http://911datasets.org/index.php/Release_14_-_NIST_Cumulus_Video_Database for the encoding details.). If you download the compressed data set and find interesting items you believe need to be examined in their original, uncompressed format, please contact the International Center for 9/11 Studies using the Contact Us page.

We are releasing the Cumulus database using the bittorrent network. If you dont have a bittorrent client please see http://911datasets.org/index.php/Bittorrent_Clients to install one. Then click:

http://911datasets.org/images/International_Center_for_911_Studies_NIST_FOIA_-_Release_14_-_NIST_Cumulus_Video_Database.torrent

to start downloading. Also, even after your download is complete, please allow your computer to act as a seed for other downloaders in the future.

We will be releasing additional data sets in the coming weeks and months. If you intend to archive all of this material, plan on purchasing a large storage medium, this release is numbered 14 of 30, so we have atleast 29 (of varying size) more to go. We expect to receive even more data from NIST. We are also working on a wiki-style website where researchers will be able to discuss interesting items that are found in this mountain of data.

One final note: if you do choose to download this data, you will be agreeing to the Terms of Use that are included in the torrent file. The Terms of Use contain important provisions with respect to the copyrights, if any exist, in the materials we are releasing. If you download the materials and do not agree to the Terms of Use, please delete the materials from your system. We regret having to include a Terms of Use with these materials, but NIST has been less than forthcoming with information about the origin of these materials, and we need to protect ourselves.

Clips that people would like to use for technical analysis will be posted here in original format on request: http://911datasets.org/index.php/Release_14_-_NIST_Cumulus_Video_Database
Most source video in this archive is interlaced, please see: Deinterlace_Help

Our sincere thanks to everyone who has helped over the last month to make this information available.

EYES WIDE OPEN
2nd October 2010, 22:16
Hi all. Please set your upload/download ratio fairly. This will not only help others complete the torrent more quickly but it will also help you to do so as well. (the more you upload, the more you download) Its good torrent etiquette. Please seed the torrent after you have completed it for as long as you can. Thank you.

EYES WIDE OPEN
3rd October 2010, 12:38
Here is a new one from the NIST database I just came accross:

Edit - this is not from 2001. its from the 93 bombing.

BTafLFF1hmM

EYES WIDE OPEN
3rd October 2010, 19:22
and another. check this out. great audio and sound of a misfired detonation with sparks.

Xe7Td_MrRlA

or it may be the sound of falling debris. opinions?

please download the torrent if you can. we need as many as we can to help with this. this is your chance to really make a difference and a contribution!

noxon medem
3rd October 2010, 23:54
- thank you, nice posting, rare footage, download and safe storage recommended.
(apropos, it is recommended that microwave-ovens, even old wrecked ones, give good
shelter to radiation for differend objects, in case of solar flare or electro-magnetic pulse waves ..
- those objects could be your backup-discs, videotapes, chip for your car, or other valuable
sensitive electronic equipment, like your head , and take it easy .. ) ...
- Technical stuff suddenly now playing important role in our life , society,
- " and all is there for us to see, here for us to be ... "
..
- somehow
all well for all
for now
..

Richard
4th October 2010, 13:12
Post #43 is not from Sept 11. It is when the basement was bombed in 1993.

EYES WIDE OPEN
4th October 2010, 20:07
and another. check this out. great audio and sound of a misfired detonation with sparks.

Xe7Td_MrRlA

or it may be the sound of falling debris. opinions?

please download the torrent if you can. we need as many as we can to help with this. this is your chance to really make a difference and a contribution!

edit: various people are trying to work out how long the sound wave delay would be on this clip.

Celine
5th October 2010, 02:28
Post #43 is not from Sept 11. It is when the basement was bombed in 1993.


It is hard to follow..or have faith... in the research...if that video got by you....

It was kinda obvious..

EYES WIDE OPEN
5th October 2010, 13:00
It is hard to follow..or have faith... in the research...if that video got by you....

It was kinda obvious..

So easy to critisize. Thanks for your support.

Celine
5th October 2010, 13:07
Its nothing personal...I am sorry if you felt offended in any way.. but I wont support un=truths.

You pitched this info as being VERY important hush hush stuff...

Integrity is extremely important when it comes to sharing thruth....wouldnt you agree?

Celine
5th October 2010, 14:54
The Sword of Truth has a lot more work yet to do I think.

John..

I agree and.. I do appreciate what you are doing EWO.

EYES WIDE OPEN
5th October 2010, 15:41
Its nothing personal...I am sorry if you felt offended in any way.. but I wont support un=truths.

You pitched this info as being VERY important hush hush stuff...

Integrity is extremely important when it comes to sharing thruth....wouldnt you agree?

I do indeed agree but criticism can also be constructive! The person that pointed out that the clip was not from 2001 did so in a courteous manner. It’s obvious it was a mistake and I am grateful it was pointed out. I hold up my hands! (I was very tired and had been watching clips all night at that point)

I don’t think you needed to pour salt into the wound however and you could have commented in a more helpful way instead of attacking me.

We WANT and NEED people like you to examine the videos and give your opinion. A small group of people can’t do it on their own. But reading between the lines, do you really need to call my character and integrity into question?

Also, this info IS very important. Putting the "hush hush" was not required. It sounds like you are tyrying to undermind these efforts by writing that.

Do you have an idea the effort required to get this released from NIST?
Law suites have been filed.
Its hundreds of hours of footage and thousands and thousands of photos. And that is just so far.

Implying that there is something amiss with my integrity is offensive. Just because a mistake was made, that does not me it should reflect badly upon my integrity. There is nothing wrong with making a mistake. In fact being wrong should be celebrated as it elevates one to a new level of understanding.

I’m sorry if I sound angry or have the wrong end of the stick but try and see this from my side. People worked their arses off to get this info out to the public and then because of one small error, people like you are ready to jump and attack the whole effort and question my integrity.

Let me ask, what are YOU doing to help?

We have enough problems getting to the truth and this sort of behaviour does not help. Anyway, this is not about me.
Can we keep on topic please.

Peace to you. :)

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Celine, maybe I was just having a bad day! :-) Respect to you and yours. Sorry about the rant! :-)

jaybee
5th October 2010, 15:53
Let me ask, what are YOU doing to help?


I made a genuine contribution...that was intended to help and get to the
actual TRUTH...

But I got no thanks OR support for it...

I think your rant against Celine was un-called for.

Even though you apologised.

Celine
5th October 2010, 16:05
It is hard to follow..or have faith... in the research...if that video got by you....

It was kinda obvious..

This was my opinions and I stand by it. It is not about your personal carector but about the research done. IO am sorry you took that personaly...


So easy to critisize. Thanks for your support.

Your response was also quite sarcastic


Its nothing personal...I am sorry if you felt offended in any way.. but I wont support un=truths.

You pitched this info as being VERY important hush hush stuff...

Integrity is extremely important when it comes to sharing thruth....wouldnt you agree?

It might be harsh , but ask Micheal Prince/James Calbot Or Barry (TheWatcher) What is means to be a "bringer of truth"..You must be prepared for critism


I agree and.. I do appreciate what you are doing EWO.


This is not about YOU..its about the research.

Research is VERY important...even after hours of viewing videos... we are all trying to be very careful with the truth...it is just "being born" it is very fragile...

EYES WIDE OPEN
5th October 2010, 20:19
I made a genuine contribution...that was intended to help and get to the
actual TRUTH...

But I got no thanks OR support for it...


Thank you for your contribution. Apologies for not saying so before. Fair point.

It was very rude of me and I am sometime very brash. My passion gets the better of me. Once again I apologise for not acknowledging your contribution.

However, I didn't comment in detail any further for the reasons I already stated. I will state them again for you:
Judy wood cannot defend her own ideas and her logic is faulty. I hold this to be true for anyone who agrees with her as well. Quick example: the video you mentioned : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrnmbUDeHus&feature=player_embedded
I dont understand how you can watch that video and your first conclusion is energy weapons. It's a massive leap. Apply occums razor. What is the simplest and most elegant scientific explanation that fits all the facts? (detonation sound / free fall / looks like demolition / witness testimony of explosives inside and so on....) Is it demolition (lots of ebidence) or invisible energy weapons? (zero evidence)

I have nothing else to say on the topic of Judy wood in this thread but if you want to continue, just make a new thread. I invited you to create a discussion thread about Judy Woods' ideas but you have not. Your choice. (I doubt I will contribute much to it I am afraid unless somebody can convince me her ideas have merit. After all, the burdon of proof is on you and Judy wood to convince me or anyone else.)

Finally I want to thank those for alerting me to my rudeness. I have no problem admitting when I am wrong and am happy to hold up my hands. Sorry.

¤=[Post Update]=¤




I think your rant against Celine was un-called for.

Even though you apologised.

I respect your opinion but dont agree. Lets agree to disagree. :-)

¤=[Post Update]=¤


This was my opinions and I stand by it. It is not about your personal carector but about the research done. IO am sorry you took that personaly...


This is not about YOU..its about the research.
.

I agree. I never said it was about me. Quite the opposite. You can see that I keep requesting we stay on topic.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


This was my opinions and I stand by it. It is not about your personal carector but about the research done. IO am sorry you took that personaly...

Research is VERY important...even after hours of viewing videos... we are all trying to be very careful with the truth...it is just "being born" it is very fragile...

I like this. Very nice. Lets put this misunderstanding behind us shall we? I think we all want the same thing. :)

iceni tribe
5th October 2010, 20:50
hi EWO

i for one apriciate your time and effort, and look forward to anything you find of interest.

Ethereal Blue Being
5th October 2010, 21:34
EWO Thank you so much for your hard work. This event has scarred everyone so deeply and I'm sure we'll get to the bottom of it eventually. I have wondered if it's found to be conclusive in the future that the towers were blown up by explosives. Then what? How will they find out who did it ? Whether it turns out to be an inside job or a multi country collaboration. How do they get proof?

jaybee
6th October 2010, 09:53
Thank you for your contribution. Apologies for not saying so before. Fair point.

It was very rude of me and I am sometime very brash. My passion gets the better of me. Once again I apologise for not acknowledging your contribution.


THANKS for that...I can get pretty passionate about stuff as well..so I
understand where you're coming from regarding that. I will try and chill
a bit as well. :grouphug:




However, I didn't comment in detail any further for the reasons I already stated. I will state them again for you:
Judy wood cannot defend her own ideas and her logic is faulty. I hold this to be true for anyone who agrees with her as well. Quick example: the video you mentioned : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrnmbUDeHus&feature=player_embedded
I dont understand how you can watch that video and your first conclusion is energy weapons. It's a massive leap. Apply occums razor. What is the simplest and most elegant scientific explanation that fits all the facts? (detonation sound / free fall / looks like demolition / witness testimony of explosives inside and so on....) Is it demolition (lots of ebidence) or invisible energy weapons? (zero evidence)


However...I must come back to this. I wasn't following the ideas of
She-who-must-not-be named...(I'm teasing !!:p)

I thought of it before I came across her ideas.

I actually think it is more logical to suspect a new-fangled secret DEW weapon
regarding the extremely perfect falls of Twin Towers and Building 7.
She-who-must not be named...estimated that around 76 tons of coventional
explosives would be needed for just ONE of the twin towers, alone.

And then we have the TURNING TO DUST thing.


I have been researching 9/11 for the first time since the end of August this
year...and for me, having taken on board what has been said about the
annomalies re the collapse....I realise that...yes...in fact the three building
were almost certainly brought down...

BUT...this doesn't point to it all being an Inside Job, IMO.

Some plan HAD to be in place to ensure that in an emergency skyscrapers,
especially the 2 biggest ones...with a combined HALF A MILE height of building !!!!
Could be as safely and as efficiently as possible be brought down into their
own footprint. For the safety of the whole of the area.


You say that you don't know how I can watch this video you provided...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrnmbUDeHus&feature=player_embedded
and my first conclusion be Energy Weapons....

It was the blob of white light that appears to have pushed in the
Penthouse just before the 'perfect' collapse.


Here are MY screen shots of it again... Indulge me. This is when it all clicked
into place for me.

What do YOU think the white blob is?


I'm not going to keep going on about it. I promise you. I will leave you and your
NIST videos alone as much as possible. You will not be discussing JW's ideas..you will be discussing MY idea....sparked off by YOUR video.

Here they are again.


http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/moreWTC7-1.jpg



http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/largermoreWTC7.jpg



http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/WTC7collapse-1.jpg




http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy78/beeejay/UntitledbiggerWTCcollapse-1.jpg



I am not doing this to annoy you...but I think this could be EVIDENCE.


It actually doesn't matter to me what was used to bring the buildings down.
Because it doesn't IN ITSELF point to a pre-planned Inside Job.
It does, though point to DAMAGE LIMITATION, IMO.

Also, IMO, there will NEVER be anyone taken to court over this...as it would
have been Govt. sanctioned Emergency Protocol...that has been CLASSIFIED.
(for what-ever reason)


Deep breath. Don't get cross. I am as much a 'truthseeker' as you are.


And it looks like I'm as stubborn as you as well...when I get my teeth
into something.....LOL.

Apologies in advance for rocking the boat...

:bolt:

EYES WIDE OPEN
6th October 2010, 15:58
I think the white blob is sunlight.

Zook
6th October 2010, 16:48
Hi EWO,


I think the white blob is sunlight.

Totally agree. You can see the Sun's rays glisten in a similar fashion, on the larger parallel side of the penthouse structure (to the right of the point of light in question).

Mother Jayne, in deference to EWO's request, I'll start another thread to discuss WTC7. There, I'll address your intimation that the controlled demolition of WTC7 (by whatever method: standard Vegas-type implosion, high-energy weapon, a vicious whack of the wicked witch's broomstick, etc.) does not in itself prove Inside Job. Fair enough. If you can't or won't accept that the controlled demolition of WTC7 is proof of Inside Job, I'll provide evidence that cannot be refuted; that positively shows WTC7's destruction as part in parcel of an Inside Job.

jaybee
6th October 2010, 19:30
Thankyou for your opinions...EWO + Uncle Zook.

But I'm not, by any means, convinced it is sunlight.

There didn't seem to be anything on top of the Penhouse before the
collapse of it?...to reflect the sun so brightly...

The building collapsed at 5:20pm...the sun was not overhead.

In fact the bottom of the V shape that was the Penhouse collapsing
...where the 'blob' is...would probably have been shaded by the right
hand side of the V...?

And isn't it a coincidence that in the EXACT place where the Penthouse
is collapsing...there is a bright white light/blob...?

In some videos you can see a LOT of smoke coming from the Penhouse corner..
which would point to it being hit?

But I'm done with this particular point, for now.

EWO....I'll leave you in Peace, for now....so you can carry on with your
NIST videos...which you have to admit...haven't been a great success
in proving your point, so far...?

THIRDEYE
6th October 2010, 19:42
quite intresting video,you could actually see an explosion of sorts below the man ......cant wait for more vids,also i would like to say i personnaly think 911 was a inside job,however i try not to feed into the collective and bad energies my focus is on all the families that have been affected and all the souls of our brother and sisters weve lost during this terrible event.....love light and abundance....thirdeye

Steven
6th October 2010, 19:55
Hi EWO,

I always appreciated your contribution in AV1 and I am very glad to see you're back with us. You certainly enrich the whole forum with your work and experience. So welcome back!

Thanks for the thread also. I just read it today and unfortunatly, can't see the video from work. But I am already convince since quite a time that it is controlled demolition. If these video can lead for a new investigation, then it is of prime importance.

I am also glad to see people are self moderating. Through the reading of the thread, the thought of having to intervene crossed my mind, but I was glad to see the respect hasn't been lost on the way at the cost of argument.

Keep it coming!

Namaste, Steven

EYES WIDE OPEN
6th October 2010, 20:21
Wow! thanks for the kind words. Right back at ya! You always seem very level headed to me. And more importantly, very fair in your moderation.

I had planned to post more vides but there are just so many! Here is a new one of witnessess to explosions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IO1ps1mzU8o

Please feel free to download the torrent guys.
You just need to insatll a bittorrent client. If you keep your rations equel, you can complete the torrent in 5 days. The first people are now begining to complete it. The good thing about torrents is that you dont have to wait until its complete, you can start browsing the files as soon as you have the first few which shouldnt take long at all.

A Beginners Guide to Bittorrent


Here is a great visualisation for newcomers to bittorrent:

http://mg8.org/processing/bt.html


To use the .torrent files available here, you will need a Bittorrent client application.

Open Source (and free) Bittorrent clients:

Vuze (Windows, Mac, Linux)

LibTorrent (Linux, BSD)

Transmission (Linux, Mac, BSD) Very popular amongst Mac users and easy to use. (I use this)

KTorrent (Windows, Linux, Mac, FreeBSD)

µTorrent (Windows, Mac) Not open source but free to use. Quick, light weight and easy to use with good support in their forums.


Here is the actual torrent again;

http://911datasets.org/images/International_Center_for_911_Studies_NIST_FOIA_-_Release_14_-_NIST_Cumulus_Video_Database.torrent

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Administrative Disclaimer: Although most torrents are quite safe, Project Avalon assumes no responsibility for damages caused to computers or networks by files downloaded from outside the Project Avalon domain.

EYES WIDE OPEN
6th October 2010, 20:29
Hi EWO,



Totally agree. You can see the Sun's rays glisten in a similar fashion, on the larger parallel side of the penthouse structure (to the right of the point of light in question).

Mother Jayne, in deference to EWO's request, I'll start another thread to discuss WTC7.

Many thanks.

EYES WIDE OPEN
7th October 2010, 17:22
There is a plan in place for clips that people want to examine. More details soon.

something is being worked on..... it will ba a forum with a thread for each clip. more info soon.

Steven
8th October 2010, 13:15
Bump to this thread,

Here another one interesting video presenting evidence that it was a controlled demolition.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bcrs3bm5G4

Namaste, Steven

Zook
8th October 2010, 16:00
Hi Steven,


Bump to this thread,

Here another one interesting video presenting evidence that it was a controlled demolition.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bcrs3bm5G4

Namaste, Steven

Excellent find! This world doesn't need Marvel Comics to tell us who the superheroes are. The organic book of truths exposes them. If I had children of the serious learning age, I'd point them towards Richard Gage and Stephen Jones (superheroes both).

:yo:

EYES WIDE OPEN
8th October 2010, 18:10
New video of ejections. ZVRPBPz-Gz8
NIST FILE: ny firefighters discovery 20b

EYES WIDE OPEN
8th October 2010, 18:15
Forum for talk about each clip.
This forum will only makes sense if you have downloaded the torrent. A forum for each folder of clips.
http://911datasets.org/index.php/Special:AWCforum

Mluck
8th October 2010, 21:57
I think this sums it up well


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYCMaYKfGKk

EYES WIDE OPEN
11th October 2010, 19:15
Is anyone on here downloading the torrent?
If so post your finding here:

http://911datasets.org/index.php/Special:AWCforum

People are just beginning to post their findings.

Swami
13th October 2010, 18:07
9/11: The Unidentified Murder Weapons



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT28hCyXsLs

Bluewool
17th October 2010, 22:13
Worth a link if you haven't yet read.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6967-How-911-was-a-dry-run-for-a-holographic-space-invasion!&p=60072#post60072

bennycog
20th October 2010, 07:02
our prime minister now shows how controlled she is.. because the australian prime minister cannot lead us to believe she is so oblivious to the truth.


http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8109575/pm-calls-union-bosss-9-11-conspiracy-stupid

Prime Minister Julia Gillard has labelled remarks made by a trade union official who claims the 9/11 terrorist attacks were a conspiracy as "stupid".

Victorian Trades Hall Council president Kevin Bracken made the comments when he rang ABC Melbourne radio and spoke to talk-back host Jon Faine this morning.

"I believe the official story is a conspiracy theory that doesn't stand up to scientific study," Mr Bracken, who is also the Victorian secretary of the Maritime Union of Australia, told Faine.

"In my mind the buildings were imploded."

Faine originally thought the call was a prank, and said Mr Bracken's claim was "nutter theory".
This afternoon the prime minister also weighed in, saying she disagreed with Mr Bracken's theory when queried by an opposition MP during question time this afternoon.

"Obviously I don't agree with the remarks, obviously they are stupid and wrong," Ms Gillard said.

"The Labor Party is a large organisation, people join it as individuals — we don't dictate what people think."

Mr Bracken, who has voiced his views on 9/11 before, said he stuck to "scientific fact".

MORE ON THE LINK ABOVE..

EYES WIDE OPEN
2nd November 2010, 19:55
The next release is now up.

Not had a chance to watch even 1% of this footage, but from random selection it's video of NIST exposing building materials to various heat sources in a calibrated way. Torrent has 2 seeds at the moment:

http://911datasets.org/images/International_Center_for_911_Studies_NIST_FOIA_-_Release_15_...

PLEASE, PLEASE help to seed or post about this on other forums if you cant seed.

Or all this effort is for nothing. Please use good torrent Etiquette.

www.911datasets.org

EYES WIDE OPEN
2nd November 2010, 19:59
This is the torrent link:

http://911datasets.org/images/International_Center_for_911_Studies_NIST_FOIA_-_Release_15_-_NIST_Burn_Video_Database.torrent

Leon
13th November 2010, 21:05
We can discuss this till the cows come home, we know the facts but the word press keeps the people dumb.
What about all the other things that have been happening?
The tsunami in Indonesia, my first impressions when I noticed the first footage being shown on the news was who detonated a nuclear device to cause this. I was at a friends house at the time they asked me what I was talking about and then said to me no this is a tsunami... the sound was off so I couldn't hear anything.
3 days later however when I visited my friends again they said you remember you said the tsunami was caused by a nuclear explosion I said yes it was identical to seeing the Bacini Atol explosions. They said that on a Dutch Channel where Government is show there was an open discussion for the last 3 days on why the Americans and Israelies detonated a nuclear device that caused the tsunami in Indonesia. Then the Dutch were politely told to shut up...
Can I talk about this here?

noxon medem
13th November 2010, 23:07
This is the torrent link:
http://911datasets.org/images/Intern...tabase.torrentn.

Great link, but the total of files is close to 40 GB, just be aware of that.
I do not have available storage now.
Any highlights, parts of the material, if one has to priorities ?

EYES WIDE OPEN
13th January 2011, 19:13
here is the forum:

http://911datasets.org/index.php/Special:AWCforum/

Please, eveyone join in. the amount of data is huge and we need you guys to help sort through it!

The more you see, the more you will realise that the noplane theory is just plain silly.

Here is the main site with all the torrents. over 1 terrabyte now.

http://911datasets.org/index.php/Special:AWCforum/

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check this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5UnQMcg4lE

this pretty mush proves that NIST have adjusted the clips previosuly released by turning up their brightness. This is what is should have looked like. (see comments under the youtube clip for more info)

3optic
13th January 2011, 19:29
this pretty mush proves that NIST have adjusted the clips previosuly released by turning up their brightness. This is what is should have looked like. (see comments under the youtube clip for more info)

I cannot see shock waves. Can you tell me what to look for and when? Thanks!

EDIT: EYES WIDE OPEN, can you recommend a film or interview audio/video that you find useful?

EYES WIDE OPEN
13th January 2011, 22:55
Take note of the windows. They shatter up the building before the collapse. This is better viewed in its original source from the torrent.