Mental Illness and people with power

[blake]

CDC: Half of Americans will suffer from mental health woes


By Steven Reinberg, HealthDay

Updated 9/5/2011


About half of Americans will experience some form of mental health problem at some point in their life, a new government report warns, and more must be done to help ...


One survey done in 2009 by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration found that nearly five percent of the population -- experienced serious mental illness during the past year.


There are "unacceptably high levels of mental illness in the United States," said Ileana Arias, principal deputy director of the CDC. "Essentially, about 25 percent of adult Americans reported having a mental illness in the previous year. In addition to the high level, we were surprised by the cost associated with that -- we estimated about $300 billion in 2002."


It isn't clear why so many Americans suffer from mental illness, Arias added.

In addition, some 8.4 million Americans had suicidal thoughts in the past year and 2.2 million made plans to kill themselves. One million attempted suicide, the report found.


Dr. John Newcomer, professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine, believes the problem may be even bigger than the CDC report indicates.

For example, state Medicaid programs spend a great deal on drugs to treat mental illness, which the CDC didn't take into account, Newcomer said. "For several years the top three drugs were antipsychotic drugs," he noted.

Also, many people with mental illness hide the problem from others, Newcomer said. The CDC report looked at people already in the health-care system, "but there is a big problem with underdiagnosis and undertreatment," he said.


Hello All

So according to the CDC there is a serious mental illness probelm in America. They don't state the population statistcs, but if we use the lowest number the CDC is quoting then we can assume that 25 percent or more of the people in places of power are mentally ill, as well as in the general population.

So often we jest about all the sociopaths and pychopaths in power. But for sure, they are in high places as well as in the general public.

How many cops, TSA agents and IRS agents are also mentally ill? And how does that affect the public?

Can one always reason with people who are mentally ill? If a cop is having a bad day and he is also mentally ill, how quick will he use that taser on a pregnant women who was just too slow getting out of her car?

Mental illness: the school teacher, the judge, the govenor, the doctor, the pharmacist, the traffic cop, the IRS agent, The TSA agent. How safe does that make you feel?

Why does America have such a high rate of mental illness? And which ones are in places of power to make your life harder?


Sincerely,

Mr. Davis

[Freed Fox]

Mis-diagnosis and over-medication. Just because a doctor writes out a prescription, it does not mean the drug is necessary or that there's even anything wrong.

Simple, yet sad; doctors and medical professionals tend to get paid more for this. They receive kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies.

No one will question whether or not it is actually society that is insane, and is driving the populace to be the same way.

Be warned; mental illness is one likely avenue for artificial division to be further engrained. At the very least it can bring about heightened distrust between strangers who should be working together and finding common ground, but instead will be dissuaded by manufactured fear of one another.

[Sabrina]

Socially engineer a dysfunctional society with hamsters in the treadmill to pay off their loans, erosion of communities, EMF exposure, creation of addiction to TV/video games/smart phones etc. so the mind's never quiet, toxins in the water and food, education system built to control and demotivate, concrete cities where some are never grounded in nature, fear about scarcity and loss to keep you under their thumb etc. etc...And put the most dysfunctional and malleable at the top of the tree (and make sure you've got some good blackmail material on them) ... ahh I could go on, but I'm falling off my soap box (and wipe out any signs of a sense of humour). But there is good news I think - the old system is breaking down as part of the shift for those who resonate with that - and what a difference that would make to mental health...

[Alex Laker]

Having suffered from what is seemingly depression for a year and bit a now, I'm still not convinced that I have a real illness or whether I'm just lazy... I can say that I've taken what seem to be the standard "go-to" drugs for a plethora of equally ill-defined mental illnesses - SSRI's.

The overriding feeling I have is that the world is a terrible place and that there is no hope and that I am insignificant and can't do a thing about it. I feel that whatever choices I were to make in life, I'm always going to be slave. That really bugs me. I care. I want to make the world a better place, I want to do something. However, on the most basic level, I just can't. I can't summon up the motivation to get out of bed some days.

Having taken the SSRI's, the only thing that seemed to change was that I no longer cared that I didn't feel like I am able to make a difference. I just felt happy being 'depressed' - that in addition to horrific insomnia, and the most insanely vivid, exhausting dreams when I did sleep, so much so that it was like not having slept at all. Having stopped taking them, I'm nigh on narcoleptic and my sleep cycles have been ruined. But hey.

I once read an analogy that likened such psychoactive medications as sticking a big spoon in the brain, stirring it around and seeing what happens. The truth is, the brain is such an infinitely complex organ, with immense differences from one person to the next, that a single compound will not have the same effect on everyone.

People are happy to take medication because they feel they are missing something. The medication doesn't fill the void, it just makes you forget there's a void. They are not a cure. They simply suppress emotion to the point of not caring. It's not just in America, I'm sure, it's all over the world - especially in the "westernised" over-complicated, over-controlled societies that such conditions exist. People get anxiety because life is simply overwhelming. There are too many pressures. People get depressed, because they lack freedom. I lack freedom. You know, true natural freedom. I can't just up and go and live a simple life. At least I don't feel like I can.

Medication is not only a great way for big pharma to make money, but it also papers over the cracks in a crumbling society. It seems that unfortunately disillusionment leads to the desire to withdraw, rather than actively change our lives. When did we stop believing we could change things? I don't know if that is the natural human instinct, but I'd like to think that it is rather a consequence of the structure of modern society, and the labelling of such mindsets as individual mental disorders that can be medicated like any other disease. People think, well it's a disease, it's okay to have a disease, I can't help it... it's not different to if I had cancer.

Well I'm not so sure. I don't think it's a disease of the individual. It is a disease of society. Symptoms manifest in individual people as they would in an individual cell to create a cultural cancer and a growing degeneracy in the population.

It's not me, it's everyone else. That's how it feels to me. My mindset no longer fits with the 'normal'. I have mutated.

Mental disorders are simply the malignancy of society.

[Kraut]

Recently I read how many who are diagnosed with Autism or Schizophrenia may have a disease called Pyroluria, "a genetic blood disorder, a chemical imbalance, involving an abnormality in hemoglobin synthesis". People having that suffer from deficiencies in Vitamin B6 and Zinc, with a wide spectrum of mental/physical symptoms, these deficiencies can't be counterbalanced with getting nutrients from food. As usual most Doctors aren't aware of that disease so most who have it are never diagnosed and suffer, getting the usual junk prescribed. These people could be helped with supplementing Zinc and B6 and they'd feel much better.

It's no wonder that more and more suffer from mental illness. The way we are supposed to live our lives, in hamster wheels, makes people sick. They work their butts off but for most it's not even enough to make a living. Society wants us to be consumers which isn't satisfying in any way. Then there's a huge industry that profits from people staying sick (the same industry tends to come up with new kinds of mental illnesses that they just happen to have medications for) and Doctors who are unaware of how to help patients. The same old pills don't help people, from experience I can say they make you feel worse. We'd have less problems with mental illness if people could live with less stress in their lives and had more time for themselves and their friends and families. When I look around here in my country I see people who are always unhappy with their lives but don't question how they live and what they want from life. It would be great if people would just step back and reclaim their lives, at least a bit. In Germany most people think there is no alternative to how things work. Many buy into the idea of financial security being most essential. People are forcefully kept so busy and worn out that they have no time and no strength to evaluate their way of life and think about alternatives. They are afraid to simplify their lives and get more space to breathe.

[Flash]

Having suffered from what is seemingly depression for a year and bit a now, I'm still not convinced that I have a real illness or whether I'm just lazy... I can say that I've taken what seem to be the standard "go-to" drugs for a plethora of equally ill-defined mental illnesses - SSRI's.

The overriding feeling I have is that the world is a terrible place and that there is no hope and that I am insignificant and can't do a thing about it. I feel that whatever choices I were to make in life, I'm always going to be slave. That really bugs me. I care. I want to make the world a better place, I want to do something. However, on the most basic level, I just can't. I can't summon up the motivation to get out of bed some days.

Having taken the SSRI's, the only thing that seemed to change was that I no longer cared that I didn't feel like I am able to make a difference. I just felt happy being 'depressed' - that in addition to horrific insomnia, and the most insanely vivid, exhausting dreams when I did sleep, so much so that it was like not having slept at all. Having stopped taking them, I'm nigh on narcoleptic and my sleep cycles have been ruined. But hey.

I once read an analogy that likened such psychoactive medications as sticking a big spoon in the brain, stirring it around and seeing what happens. The truth is, the brain is such an infinitely complex organ, with immense differences from one person to the next, that a single compound will not have the same effect on everyone.

People are happy to take medication because they feel they are missing something. The medication doesn't fill the void, it just makes you forget there's a void. They are not a cure. They simply suppress emotion to the point of not caring. It's not just in America, I'm sure, it's all over the world - especially in the "westernised" over-complicated, over-controlled societies that such conditions exist. People get anxiety because life is simply overwhelming. There are too many pressures. People get depressed, because they lack freedom. I lack freedom. You know, true natural freedom. I can't just up and go and live a simple life. At least I don't feel like I can.

Medication is not only a great way for big pharma to make money, but it also papers over the cracks in a crumbling society. It seems that unfortunately disillusionment leads to the desire to withdraw, rather than actively change our lives. When did we stop believing we could change things? I don't know if that is the natural human instinct, but I'd like to think that it is rather a consequence of the structure of modern society, and the labelling of such mindsets as individual mental disorders that can be medicated like any other disease. People think, well it's a disease, it's okay to have a disease, I can't help it... it's not different to if I had cancer.

Well I'm not so sure. I don't think it's a disease of the individual. It is a disease of society. Symptoms manifest in individual people as they would in an individual cell to create a cultural cancer and a growing degeneracy in the population.

It's not me, it's everyone else. That's how it feels to me. My mindset no longer fits with the 'normal'. I have mutated.

Mental disorders are simply the malignancy of society.

Excellent definition of depression, you described your symptoms and this is what depression is, no doubt, it is not lazyness.
Excellent definition of the medication impact, it does not cure, only makes you not feel the void.
Excellent definition of society's ill.

And no, this is not a mental disorder, for most in depression, it is a reaction to circumstances. Change the circumstances, the depression goes away. However, when one is in depression, neuronal pathways change to accomodate the new behavior/view of the world and often, those change may remain permanent and one is much more susceptible to depression later on. This means that you do have to take care of it prior to the brain establishing strong neuronal pathways favoring depression.

Medication may help in these.

The other thing is that Kraut is right, food and vitamins in the B complex often change things. I also, personnally take 5HTP to improve my serotonine levels and avoid creating detrimental neuronal pathways, when I feel like depressed for a long period (no big pharma). And take vitamins, high quality one (the cheap are scrap) for the body.

Love to you

edit: check some thread on depression, one on the guts, and arrowind comments, she was/is very good for natural remedies.

[merkabagirll]

And here's the' cherry on the cake'! You think you're depressed?! How do you think you feel when you lose your libido due to taking anti-depressant medication?! But don't fret ... there's a cure for that too!
Sure is a sad state when a such a huge percentage of a society is on 'disconnect' from their Root Chakra!

http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/news/20080722/viagra-for-her

[merkabagirll]

This is an amazing product I've been using for a coupe years ... full of PEA ... the 'feel-good' ingredient found in chocolate!
It's the only fresh-water algae harvested in Lake Klamuth, Oregon, USA.

http://www.e3live.com/all_products/e3_brain_on.html

[Flash]

This is an amazing product I've been using for a coupe years ... full of PEA ... the 'feel-good' ingredient found in chocolate!
It's the only fresh-water algae harvested in Lake Klamuth, Oregon, USA.

http://www.e3live.com/all_products/e3_brain_on.html

If i am not mistaken it is the same compound that has been reproduced in laboratories for ADD treatment (ritalin) and that is naturally occuring in anchovies.
Does brain on have an impact on food intake? like reduce appetite?

Thanks for the information

[Lifebringer]

Because the oppressors oppress so hard in life/rat race, they drive people crazy. And if the Caucasian race is just getting a dose of it, then count yourselves blessed because others have suffered since coming here and around the world.

It's time to end that type of phychotic dimented oppression. WE are not ROBOTS. Our bodies do break down and if they want a robot to work(still have to have people repair and work them) then they should build them.

I believe soon robots will be doing the heavier of work, and humans creating repaireing or inspecting them.
It would relieve so much stress to have the robots, and allow thep people more time at leisure, that will refresh their over stretched minds of worry.

[Lifebringer]

Thanks to MonsterSatano/Monsanto there is no proper nutrition in the foods in rapid production that use chemicals. So people here know why you should naturally nurture the soils with leaves, compost, and veggitation deterioration that will bring in worms which nurture the soil.

If this is done, the bees flourish in fertilizing/pollenation, and multiple bumper crops of produce are harvested with all the vitamins needed on a daily allowance.

So if you doubt your vitamin intake, because they also own the vitamins sifted off the produce when making sauces, puree's and preservatives, they want to call the shots on who's smart enough to read that Big Agriculture, is breaking down every nutrious component and selling it one at a time in vitamins.

That is what big producers do. Break it up and sell it higher. Candy bars were much bigger and cheaper about 20 yrs ago. Now they are chlorestol producers, with more sugar than flavor, and the bar is half the size or it's its the same length, it's thinner chocolate for higher price.

Bottom line is if you feel yourself slipping, laughing and crying at the same time in conversation of explaination, don't be embarrassed, be brave enough to save your family problems and get some help. it's really about how you handle the mental illness and don't let it handle you. Clues are missing or forgetting things done 5 or 2 minutes ago. 1st symptom, honest. Outburst at people who appear to be disrespectful, when they aren't hearing the person correctly because of attitude. They are time bombs be it irratic outbursts, bullying, threats, or violence, they need help. Don't just shake your head and leave it to God to sort out, step up as the adult in the family and get that person help, if you just have to speak to a phychiatrist like a friend in the bridge club, and feel free to get advice on the symptoms of behavioral episodes at home and in the community.

In other words, the "village must take care of its idiots."

[Swanette]

There is another way to help heal ourselves and it isn't with Big Pharma drugs. Check out this approach : There are a lot of orthomolecular doctors around the world that treat mental illness with nutrition. Linus Pauling and Dr. A Hoffer are a few of the original pioneers. They have successfully treated hundreds of people with serious mental illnesses.

http://www.orthomed.org/index.html

http://www.orthomolecularhealth.com/

http://orthomolecular.org/

http://www.searpubl.ca/Hoffer_Into.pdf


http://www.orthomed.org/omt/omt.html


ps: this is the same treatment that Kraut is describing in his post with B-6 and zinc.