Virus or parasite?

[RUSirius]

I'm from North America, the states, virtually never got sick, if I did I would get over it pretty quickly. Now I live in South America and I get sick every 3-4 months, and it floors me. The symptoms are always the same, they are the following:

Fever
Major headache
Diarrhea
Some vomiting, usually only once
Internal trembling
Body pain
Dizzy
Blurred Vision
And just feel weird mentally

I thought it was just the flu, and it could be but then I thought what if it was parasitic? The reason I am concerned (mostly) is that it renders me virtually useless for 2-3 days, and I cant get over how terrible I feel.

Any thoughts on this? Thanks much.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I believe you may have a waterborne dysentery called "giardia".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giardiasis

Giardiasis — popularly known as beaver fever[citation needed] — is a parasitic disease caused by the flagellate protozoan Giardia lamblia (also sometimes called Giardia intestinalis and Giardia duodenalis).[1] The giardia organism inhabits the digestive tract of a wide variety of domestic and wild animal species, as well as humans. It is a common cause of gastroenteritis in humans, infecting approximately 200 million people worldwide.

Gastroenteritis is a medical condition characterized by inflammation ("-itis") of the gastrointestinal tract that involves both the stomach ("gastro"-) and the small intestine ("entero"-), resulting in some combination of diarrhea, vomiting, and abdominal pain and cramping.[1] Gastroenteritis has also been referred to as gastro, stomach bug, and stomach virus. Although unrelated to influenza, it has also been called stomach flu and gastric flu.

Symptoms include loss of appetite, diarrhea, hematuria (blood in urine), loose or watery stool, stomach cramps, upset stomach, projectile vomiting (uncommon), bloating, excessive gas, and burping (often sulfurous). Symptoms typically begin one to two weeks after infection and may wane and reappear cyclically. Symptoms are caused by Giardia organisms coating the inside of the small intestine and blocking nutrient absorption. Most people are asymptomatic; only about a third of infected people exhibit symptoms. Untreated, symptoms may last for six weeks or longer.

Symptomatic infections are well recognized as causing lactose intolerance,[2] which, while usually temporary, may become permanent.[3][4] Although hydrogen breath tests indicate poorer rates of carbohydrate absorption in those asymptomatically infected, such tests are not diagnostic of infection.[5] It has been suggested that these observations are explained by symptomatic giardia infection allowing for the overgrowth of other bacteria.[6][5]

Some studies have shown giardiasis should be considered as a cause of vitamin B12 deficiency as a result of the problems caused within the intestinal absorption system.[7]

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Diagnosis

The mainstay of diagnosis of giardiasis is stool microscopy. This can be for motile trophozoites or for the distinctive oval G.lambliacysts.
The entero-test uses a gelatin capsule with an attached thread. One end is attached to the inner aspect of the patient's cheek, and the capsule is swallowed. Later, the thread is withdrawn and shaken in saline to release trophozoites which can be detected microscopically.
A new immunologic test, enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA), is now available. These tests are capable of a 90% detection rate or more.[9]
Because Giardia lamblia is difficult to detect, often leading to misdiagnoses, several tests should be conducted over a one-week period.[10]
[edit]Treatment

Treatment is not always necessary as the infection usually resolves by itself. But in others, the illness is acute or symptoms persist and medications are needed to treat it. Usually metronidazole, albendazole, and tinidazole are used.

In most countries, the drug used to treat giardiasis is metronidazole. The current research evidence suggests albendazole is probably as effective, but has fewer side effects (gastrointestinal and neurological) and is more convenient to take or administer. Both need a five to 10 day long course; albendazole is taken once a day, while metronidazole needs to be taken three times a day. There is very little evidence to support using any other drugs (tinidazole, quinacrine, furazolidone and nitazoxanide) in preference to these two main options.[11][12]

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Vitamin B12, vitamin B12 or vitamin B-12, also called cobalamin, is a water-soluble vitamin with a key role in the normal functioning of the brain and nervous system, and for the formation of blood. It is one of the eight B vitamins. It is normally involved in the metabolism of every cell of the human body, especially affecting DNA synthesis and regulation, but also fatty acid synthesis and energy production. Neither fungi, plants nor animals are capable of producing vitamin B12. Only bacteria and archaea have the enzymes required for its synthesis, although many foods are a natural source of B12 because of bacterial symbiosis. The vitamin is the largest and most structurally complicated vitamin and can be produced industrially only through bacterial fermentation-synthesis.

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If you have Giardia you are very lucky to get this info,
many people go undiagnosed for years (or lifetimes!)!!

[seko]

Try to get some MMS and citric acid and start taking it. Although I don't know from where you can get it over there.??

[Delight]

Sounds very unpleasant and so far looking at it as a virus or a parasite "could be true". If you have a sense that a certain remedy like MMS or a cleanse or even antibiotics (anything reasonable to you) will probably address the "infection" and you then have faith in yourself to follow that treatment fully, you will discover the "cure"

I see cancer treatment much like that...it needs the appropriate context of faith both in the plan and in one's ability to use it. But is the "cure" always the "answer"?

If it is true that the physical body imbalances of our "ground" is the attractor of the "pathogens", and if it is true that symptoms of lowered immunity pre-exist the symptoms, any treatment will ultimately be temporary. Another set of symptoms will appear. So one moves to the layer of creating the best physical ground like general nutrition, exercise, relaxation. When is that insufficient?

If we are beings with both gross and subtle bodies, the emotional body may have chosen physical ills to act out how we feel about ourselves, our life in general. One might have chosen pathogens to act out feelings of insecurity or something to do with being threatened or wanting to be nurtured. Feelings are needing attention (lonely? overwhelmed? grief filled? emotions) and seeking expression. One may continue "catching" pathogens even when doing all the "right things" because it means a way to feel and express qualities we otherwise deny.

Then inbedded in the mental body may be thought forms. They are crystalized aspets we deeply accept as true. Ones like conflict, like man against nature establish the kind of relationship we have with little ones like viruses and parasites. The thought forms need to be addressed directly. Do they lead to well being?

Then there is some sort of soul program? maybe "illness" experience is a tool that is meaningful for a soul purpose? Maybe "disease" is a massive soul program we chose to then achieve mastery over? This includes mastering any and all of the above possible scenarios?

Then there is the collective entanglement where we act out for another. Collective issues become expressed in our own bodies?

Then there is the possibility that all of those symptoms are a natural acting out of physical reaction of higher vibratory frequencies. The whole field is shaking and rolling and disturbed on its way to incorporating higher frequency and not anything outside you?

Anyway, I like seeing an image that we ditch the whole need to even consider dis-ease. In the mean time, I am sure you will get just the right recommendations. Maggie

[RMorgan]

Hey mate,

I´d advise you and your family to take vermifuge medication once a year, just in case.

Anyway, you should go to the doctor and do a blood test; There´s a bunch of viruses transmitted by mosquitoes in South-America.

It could be Dengue, Yellow Fever or even Malaria. All of them manifest your described symptoms.

You should be extremely careful regarding mosquitoes, mate. They´re quite dangerous, specially up there in the Amazonian Region.

Raf.

[Mulder]

Actually, I lived in 3rd world countries and I got sick like this at least once a month. I found it was the poor quality of food giving me food poisoning. I became very careful and cooked my own meals. I only ate out in McDonalds (yes, you can trust them not to give you food-poisoning). Even things like coca-cola bottles have been frozen and thawed many times, (so watch for the seal not being broken) and raw meat can be rotten and they put chemicals on it to turn it red - food is scarey!

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

i have a stupid question,

does taking alcohol/quinine help with this?
like a lot of gin and tonic etc?

people used to use that for malaria treatment didn't they?

I hope you find out what's wrong...

[Daughter of Time]

I know someone who has been spending his winters in Latin America for the past 15 years or so. The first couple of years, he got sick as you described. One year, on his flight home, he became involved in a conversation with the man sitting next to him and the topic of "getting sick" in Latin America came up. The other passenger, who spends much time in Latin America on account of business, told my friend that he also got sick during the first few trips. So he visited a local doctor who told him to take Tea Tree Oil, which apparently worked immediately.

Tea Tree Oil has anti-fungal, antiseptic, anti-viral, anti-parasitical properties, so whatever the cause, it is known to work.

After that encounter, my friend proceeded to take one drop of Tea Tree Oil internally, daily, starting the day before landing in Latin America right up to his last day there. He normally goes in November and returns in April. He has recounted that since being on the Tea Tree Oil regimen, he has never gotten sick except one year when he got some kind of skin fungus. He applied the TTO to the skin and the fungus was gone within days.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

that is amazing...

wikipedia:

Tea tree oil, or melaleuca oil, is a pale yellow color to nearly colorless and clear essential oil with a fresh camphoraceous odor.[1] It is taken from the leaves of the Melaleuca alternifolia, which is native to Southeast Queensland and the Northeast coast of New South Wales, Australia. Tea tree oil should not be confused with tea oil, the sweet seasoning and cooking oil from pressed seeds of the tea plant Camellia sinensis (beverage tea), or the tea oil plant Camellia oleifera.

The indigenous Bundjalung people of eastern Australia use “tea trees” as a traditional medicine by inhaling the oils from the crushed leaves to treat coughs and colds. They also sprinkle leaves on wounds, after which a poultice is applied. In addition, tea tree leaves are soaked to make an infusion to treat sore throats or skin ailments.[2][3]

Use of the oil itself, as opposed to the unextracted plant material, did not become common practice until researcher Arthur Penfold published the first reports of its antimicrobial activity in a series of papers in the 1920s and 1930s. In evaluating the antimicrobial activity of M. alternifolia, tea tree oil was rated as 11 times more active than phenol.[4]

The commercial tea tree oil industry was born after the medicinal properties of the oil were first reported by Penfold in the 1920s. It was produced from natural bush stands of M. alternifolia that produced oil with the appropriate chemotype. The plant material was hand cut and often distilled on the spot in makeshift, mobile, wood-fired bush stills.

Production ebbed after World War II, as demand for the oil declined, presumably due to the development of effective antibiotics and the waning image of natural products. Interest in the oil was rekindled in the 1970s as part of the general renaissance of interest in natural products. Commercial plantations were established in the 1970s and 1980s, which led to mechanization and large-scale production of a consistent essential oil product.[5]

Although tea tree oil normally is extracted from Melaleuca alternifolia commercially, it can also be extracted from Melaleuca dissitiflora and Melaleuca linariifolia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_tree_oil

WHOA !!!

it's amazing how much knowledge is lost because of capitalism,
maybe more knowledge is lost our way than the communist way, oops?

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[161803398]

There's also an old technology to kill bacteria involving vibration -- that I don't understand of course but I know two separate people -- one from Iran and one from Italy who know how to do it. I have a device that prevents or kills any infection made by my friend in his apartment -- he just wont tell me how he made it. But he did tell me he doesn't think it actually kills the bacteria; it just prevents them from grouping together to make an actual infection. He wasn't thinking of bacteria when he made it; he was thinking parasite.

Another great thing is oil of oregano.

[RUSirius]

Thanks so much to everyone who responded, there are things to be considered from each post, and some will be tried and implemented.

[Flash]

I'm from North America, the states, virtually never got sick, if I did I would get over it pretty quickly. Now I live in South America and I get sick every 3-4 months, and it floors me. The symptoms are always the same, they are the following:

Fever
Major headache
Diarrhea
Some vomiting, usually only once
Internal trembling
Body pain
Dizzy
Blurred Vision
And just feel weird mentally

I thought it was just the flu, and it could be but then I thought what if it was parasitic? The reason I am concerned (mostly) is that it renders me virtually useless for 2-3 days, and I cant get over how terrible I feel.

Any thoughts on this? Thanks much.

parasitic, either giardia or amibic dysenteria. Amibic dysenteria will appear on and off for a while and then will show off on a daily basis, with cramping, diarhea, sometimes fever when the disease has made major damages. Either way, In Mexico, there is a pill callex Vormex that you have to take 1 month a part. Mexican do this 2 times per year because infection from parasites is rampant.

Depending on where you are, ask a local pharmacist for anti parasite stuff, they know exactly what to give you (In Mexico they have received the order not to tell patients because they are diagnosing, but with smile, a violin story and sometimes a bit of cash they will tell). Take the product that has the largest coverage of parasites.

Anything that goes on for more than 3 days IS NOT TOURISTA or the body getting used to the climate etc, but IS AN INFECTION and has to be taken care of.

I would suggest you do take the pill (1 pill one month apart) and then check the reaction you have the first time you take it. Your reaction will tell your where the parasite is (headache, it probably has reach your brain, stomach ache it probably is sitting there, etc). Why? Because when dying, parasites release chemical that are harmful to the body and give us some discomfort.

I lived in El Salvador, Mexico and Turkey. Almost died because I though it was turista diarhea and did not take care of it in Mexico, got infected in El Salvador and some people I know got yellow fever in Turkey.

In the old time, they would give you flagyl for this, with strong dosage. I was calling it the kill all because I was more sick on this than dying from amibic dysenteria. But it cured it and probably many other things too that I was not aware of. Carcinogen though, so you would not take it every 6 months, just when dying.

For anything, consult local doctors, they know about local illnesses in their region, which north American doctor do not. And local pharmacists.

Beware that medication sold in third world countries may be counterfeit and may have not medication in it. Make sure it is from a proper source.

You know what: in fact, why don't you ask Ulli on this forum, she lives in Costa Rica and her husband is a doctor, she may know what to do.

[sigma6]

If you don't have access to MMS, and if you don't have access or want to take pharmaceuticals, there is always a natural cure available. Your own perfect medicine. And if you want to lose weight, tone your skin, improve your circulation while cleansing and killing off bacteria and "viruses" at the same time. That costs nothing and is always the ideal solution no matter where you are in the world. And may be the most important skill/mind set you can acquire for your whole life. Especially in a place like where you are. Consider UT Urine Therapy. Transform your life and literally become free of the need of dozens of "drug applications" ie. aspirins, cold remedies, vaccines, skin conditioners, diet supplements, stomach remedies, etc, etc. If you can survive on 21 days doing one cleanse will change your life.

If it cured people of AIDs and many other terminal illnesses it can cure you. It is just a question of how serious in your mind you are. You must unlearn what you have learned and develop a new perception of this reality. The mental barrier apparently stops many. Which is an unfortunate statement of how unwilling many are to "let go of illusion" unfortunately. But if you can see it as something positive and pleasant and beneficial (in fact life saving) consider yourself one step closer to a developing a more accurate perception of reality. That is the goal isn't it.


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[Lifebringer]

Lime disease is hard to detect, but easy in treatment. Also chech on whether you have malaria or encephalitis. Those symptoms sound familiar, and the recurrance also/lime/deer ticks?

Test for lyme 1st, then malaria. Strengthen your immune system w/garlic cloves 3 times a week, for 3 weeks to a month, to rid your bloodstream of these bugs/parasites.

Godspeed and the sooner the better to get started.

[rgray222]

Actually, I lived in 3rd world countries and I got sick like this at least once a month. I found it was the poor quality of food giving me food poisoning. I became very careful and cooked my own meals. I only ate out in McDonalds (yes, you can trust them not to give you food-poisoning). Even things like coca-cola bottles have been frozen and thawed many times, (so watch for the seal not being broken) and raw meat can be rotten and they put chemicals on it to turn it red - food is scarey!

I agree with this assessment, like Mulder I have lived in many places all over the world and would get sick at least once or twice a year. Violently sick, it would come on quickly and last 2 or 3 days. It would completely take me out. The symptoms you describe in your post were identical to what I experienced with the exception of blurred vision.

Here are the major telltale symptoms
Diarrhea (sometimes bloody)
Nausea and vomiting
Abdominal pain and/or cramping
Malaise (general uneasiness)
Fever
You will find that the locals have built up a certain amount of immunity due to the fact they have been eating this food most of their lives. Also avoid raw or under cooked meat, if you think this might be coming from something as tame as vegetables then you need to find out what type of fertilizer they are using. In many countries human waste is commonly used. Good luck, this is something I never want to experience again, this is something you should make effort to avoid, it is often life threatening.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

someone mentioned garlic,
i agree,
whole garlic gloves can be baked/stewed into a very tasty dish (but watch out later, you will have garlic burp and gas for HOURS), with chicken it's really good! (greek style?)

but garlic definitely does something in there, holy ***

[Mulder]

I've just read rgray222's reply to my comment and mentioned the blurred vision. This could be from additives put in alcohol. If you are drinking alcohol - even in restaurants with your dinner, you must immediately stop drinking all alcohol there. I just saw a story on 60 Minutes about foreign bars and the way they water-down alcohol with methalyated spirits and worse poisons and this causes the blurred vision along with all your symptoms! This will kill you if it's bad alcohol you are poisoned with!