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Fred Steeves
6th March 2013, 20:24
If you could wave a magic wand, that would make your Spirit's Earthly incarnation cycle cease immediately, would you do it?
donk
6th March 2013, 20:31
Nope. But I'd wave it at you...if you asked.
I want one that helps let me know what it's all about...until I figure that out, I don't mind going around and around and around...if my spirit gets tired, I'll just take a starship to the other side of the universe:
0XHrKxiI2Ww
sheme
6th March 2013, 20:35
Yes! But am I being a coward? I am blind ! therefore I may not relinquish my promise to my brothers and sisters. I must proceed with hope and promise that I reincarnated with good volition -death is trivia- distorted by fear . My trust in goodness /Godness will prevail.
donk
6th March 2013, 20:35
...Or I may become a single drop of rain...but I will remain. I'll be back again, and again, and again, and again....
Fred Steeves
6th March 2013, 20:38
I don't mind going around and around and around...if my spirit gets tired, I'll just take a starship to the other side of the universe:
0XHrKxiI2Ww
Well what do you know donk, that's my theme song!
Earth Angel
6th March 2013, 20:41
this reminds me of an Abraham Hicks seminar.......often people will say they are NOT coming back here and Abraham replies that you do not ever have to come back here if you don't want to but as much as you think you are sure while you are here that you never want to come back, when you return to source you are excited and eager to come back again.......so the wand might be a waste of time......you'd just end up starting over again sooner than later......Id like a magic wand to fix things quickly while I am here though lol
Wind
6th March 2013, 20:44
That's a tough question, Fred.
My heart says that I don't belong here, but I do know that I am here for a reason. Can you quit the game before it has even truly began? If I could I would end all suffering, but would it be fair since lessons would be left unlearned? I can't change the rules even if I wanted.
After all, we all are here to learn.
donk
6th March 2013, 20:44
Well what do you know donk, that's my theme song!
Then I take it that you wouldn't either, eh?
I been thinking about incarnation a lot (and that song in particular lately--I recently posted in the village--though that was many many here & nows ago already)
I can't think of anything better to do than to be.
And unfortunately, I can't remember any type of experience other than one that I'm in at the moment, so can't imagine a higher (or lower) state being any "better".
I am. That's good enough.
Fred Steeves
6th March 2013, 20:50
Well what do you know donk, that's my theme song!
Then I take it that you wouldn't either, eh?
Not a snowball's chance in hell. :no:
Beautifully Curious
6th March 2013, 21:19
At this point in time, no. If you had asked me in times of despair my answer may have been yes. Thankfully, I have reached a point in life where I have decided it is much better to stay for the long haul then "jump ship" early. I would love a magic wand that could clean the house though. All the extra time could be spent doing other things that I feel are more worthwhile.
Lots of love to you all
william6565william
6th March 2013, 21:20
I would, probably.
Camilo
6th March 2013, 22:07
Perhaps I already did it, and now I'm back once again to do what I left undone.
lookbeyond
6th March 2013, 22:34
If i could be assured that i would be able to be in contact with my loved ones i would probably hop off the merry-go-round-lb
Ron Mauer Sr
7th March 2013, 00:21
My magic wand would allow me to come and go as I please, to any reality including this one, instantly, and visit for as long as I choose.
Whenever things get too hot, bad things chasing me, blue lights flashing, I wave my wand and poof, I am gone.
Now that could be fun.
I could have a lot of laughs with that magic wand.
Just thinking out of the box.
RUSirius
7th March 2013, 00:32
I wouldn't do it Fred, valid question though. Here's what my mind did if I'm being honest when I read your question, daughter, no. Then I read everyone else who responded, then I wrote this...
ghostrider
7th March 2013, 00:34
No freakin way.... are you kidding ??? this is the best time to be a human being on planet earth... armageddon around every corner, the 2012 end of the blah blah we just lived through, you make history , saying I was there, for an event that only happens once every 26,860 years... I was there... the pope quits, been 600 years and I was there... the great awakening... the creation of camelot and avalon... I was there ... I'll take the suffering just to be part of history they will talk and write about 25,000 years from now... Uncle GR was there... no way I say rock on ... the only other time I would want is the day the annunaki appeared in the sky and landed, I want to be right there front row to give them the vulcan live long and prosper sign ... lol just to make them go Huh ??? I would say ooops sorry wrong timeline...
Fred Steeves
7th March 2013, 01:11
I started this thread on an idle whim, because I see so often here and there people wishing they could just be out and away from this game, to just go... So was curious of some responses. Personally speaking anyway, the more I learn/remember who we really are, the more I cherish every moment here on this plane, even the s**tty ones. (LOL)
This thing we are doing is most special IMO.
Ron Mauer Sr
7th March 2013, 01:55
This thing we are doing is most special IMO.
If I am on a mission it must be a Secret Mission because I don't know what it is yet.
But if I find out, the mischievous teenager inside me could sure use a magic wand if the Reptilians, predator drones or black SUVs get too close when I'm having my fun. They will be hot on my trail when I'm preventing false flag operations, disabling nukes, healing the sick, exposing the lies, comforting the suffering and feeding the hungry. All without hurting anyone.
My magic wand should do all of those things and more.
That should really piss off the control freaks.
Not trying to derail your thread Fred. The magic wand topic just got me brain stormin'.
WhiteFeather
7th March 2013, 04:36
Im liking this incarnation of late. Will i come back again? Im sure i will sign another soul contract. Ive learned more from this incarnation than any other ones prior methinks.. There's an overwhelming amount of good music on this planet. And some good pizza here in NY. The girls arent too shabby either. Fred im enclosing this tune. It fits the thread precisely accurate and with good taste. Pun intended. IMO Here's The greatest rock Trio ever to recently incarnate here on Planet Earth....so far. ;)
Presto - Rush Listen to the first 7 words of the song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ0-M18v-d0
william r sanford72
7th March 2013, 05:42
learning to and along with music...public school systems could use you guys...music for me is a time traveling device.cool.answer to wand question is no...still have a job here.so much work with so little time.also i have some karma to balance out and my Wife would kill me!!!!!;)
toothpick
7th March 2013, 06:24
Hi Fred.
That, is a great question, made me think for a second.
We are living in very interestng times and i don,t want to miss a minute of it.
golden lady
7th March 2013, 09:49
Only yesterday I was counting my blessings. So without any hesitation my answer would be no. So much to learn see and do.
In any case , I'm far too nosy not to stay around, we sure live in interesting times. Also came here with a mission, as yet unknown!!
1inMany
7th March 2013, 15:03
Wow, Fred. That is a loaded question. There have been so many times I wish I could have done just that. Poof and I'm outta here. That might surprise some people, I suppose. For awhile, knowing my kids need me kept me from thinking about it. Then, I woke up to the fact that if I poofed outta here but wasn't done doing whatever it is I'm supposed to be doing, I'd just be right back. On some level, I realize that I would choose to come back to finish the unfinished, but that would be on the level of higher self or something.
Honestly, this has not been a fun ride. And I do not want to start over, by any means. If I had a magic wand, I'd probably just piss a whole bunch of people off, what with poofing all the other stuff everyone already mentioned, lol.
Much Love,
Fred Steeves
7th March 2013, 17:15
The question could also easily be put this way: If you wanted to stay put, would you wave that same magic wand to instantly banish or destroy the "dark ones", in order to at long last achieve Heaven on Earth?
sleepy
7th March 2013, 17:20
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william r sanford72
7th March 2013, 17:47
Olaf Stapledons.....Star Maker....great read. without evil or strife....fear...anger what would said journey be like..are these things needed to keep a balance of sorts...maybe a learning tool for our child like souls...realy good question.not sure could give a honest answer at this stage in my life.Had a great paragraph in the starmaker book i wanted to share but thought it best to just share the book instead....
Ron Mauer Sr
7th March 2013, 17:49
The question could also easily be put this way: If you wanted to stay put, would you wave that same magic wand to instantly banish or destroy the "dark ones", in order to at long last achieve Heaven on Earth?
I don't think so, because I'm not yet aware of the big picture.
Just thinking out the box here. It may be that both sides, light and dark, need each other to evolve even though we may not be aware of it. To banish or destroy the "dark ones" may have the effect of eliminating a boot camp for souls choosing an opportunity to evolve more rapidly that otherwise possible.
At some level all is one, so the light and dark energies need to merge at some point and create something very beautiful. I'm thinking of the children's movie "The Dark Crystal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzgVPB5dpgg)" as an example.
It is possible that we have asked friends to play dark roles this time, to help us evolve. Some would say they would never play the dark role. But what if we begged them to do so?
But I'd like to have that magic wand anyway, just in case I feel a sudden need to send a dark energy back to where it came from.
Prodigal Son
7th March 2013, 18:02
The question could also easily be put this way: If you wanted to stay put, would you wave that same magic wand to instantly banish or destroy the "dark ones", in order to at long last achieve Heaven on Earth?
The question you posed in the OP is a personal one. This question involves everything and everybody probably across numerous dimensions. I don't think it's anyone's place to do that.
When I look back at my life and what it took to get where I am, I can see the journey is in midstream. I still don't know my purpose, but I'm determined to find out. I believe I do know the general purpose of why we are all here, and that is fight fear with love, to become gods. Hitting the eject button now would be like dropping out of high school while college is looming on the horizon.
Fred Steeves
7th March 2013, 18:31
The question could also easily be put this way: If you wanted to stay put, would you wave that same magic wand to instantly banish or destroy the "dark ones", in order to at long last achieve Heaven on Earth?
This question involves everything and everybody probably across numerous dimensions. I don't think it's anyone's place to do that.
Agreed Prodigal Son, yet I see it wished and strived for quite often here in various ways. Basically saying: "I just want the light, and f**k the dark". Thus the follow up question.
EDIT: By the way Ron, I'm going to go find me a nice old Holly tree, and make you that magic wand. :)
sleepy
7th March 2013, 18:31
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1inMany
7th March 2013, 18:46
Yeah, I'm following right along here with everybody. What if...waving a magic wand to remove hunger would also remove the opportunity for some people who feel very strongly moved to help? What if...waving a magic wand to get rid of darkness altogether would also remove the drive to be light, to find light?
I might have a completely different answer if the question was something like, "What if you had a magic wand that could do absolutely no harm, intended or unintended, to anyone or anything, but could return you to Source (replace with whatever you believe) for a respite?"
Oh, man, would I say yes to that! Shoot, wait a minute, I don't know if I would say yes to that either, because what if it is the very absence of that particular memory or knowledge that keeps me motivated to seek?
Aw, hell, this is a tough one. I think I'm out. lol
Much Love,
Carpathian
8th March 2013, 03:19
Yes. Sorry, but I'm miserable, and have had too much suffering for one lifetime. I would like, for once, to know peace.
Carmody
8th March 2013, 04:27
I remember my past two lives (whole -memories back to about 1850), I remember snippets of others. I remember what it is like to not be here and I remember the peace of not being here.
If you ever saw the film 'the happening' that is similar to the difference that it brings on, as a feeling. It is difficult to be here if the memory is too strong or the knowing fills one. It is a hellish differential to know. To know the peace and all in your mind and to be in the hell of ..this place.....as a pair, that is difficult. Ouch.
But there is one other side of it, and that is the one of being too nice, too peaceful. Eternity and peace is ultimately BORING. Everyone wants the peace, yes, no argument. But eternity and the all state... is - BORING. Knowing, while living in this place, prior to adjusting to it ...would bring an imbalance that is, well, crazy and difficult to negotiate.
Try meditation. it can get you to the precipice. sometimes, it can take you into it, so you can be it for a while.
BTW, this search for peace and finding some of it, to express it..that is what the 'here and now' thread is about. It has nothing to do with escapism. It's about being mature enough to handle the down side and being of enough composure and of an adjusted self to leave it out, as bringing it in does no one any good. Being angry is just a monkey flinging poo, nothing more. It's about building positive vibration and space/place. Screaming and freaking and reaction is the problem we need to shed. It is worse than inaction.
Carmody
8th March 2013, 04:59
My last communication with 'Charles', via PM touched on this.
I said that it appears that it is not yet time. They aren't ready yet. That the moment will not come, that the change will not come..until the last fingernails of the last person clinging..are broken free. Until the whole thing is finally in the air.
And that is a hellish bit of stress and nightmare away from finally happening. That the moment of change will not come until the last of them have finally let it go. And they are a stubborn, clinging, unrepentant, crying bunch...who simply don't know how to even begin to let it go.
But you are getting there, aren't you. Ready yet? hmmm? :)
ulli
8th March 2013, 05:00
I want a magic wand to make 7 billion magic wands with, and then distribute them.
I'd want to see agony and misery removed from this world, and then just happily move from life to life and planet to planet
with ever increasing inspiration and have always enough hours in a day to do all the things I want to do. Creating beauty and happiness is what it's all about, whether in this dimension or the others, ultimately it makes no difference.
Carmody
8th March 2013, 05:23
this reminds me of an Abraham Hicks seminar.......often people will say they are NOT coming back here and Abraham replies that you do not ever have to come back here if you don't want to but as much as you think you are sure while you are here that you never want to come back, when you return to source you are excited and eager to come back again.......so the wand might be a waste of time......you'd just end up starting over again sooner than later......Id like a magic wand to fix things quickly while I am here though lol
It is like the memories of a family member dying. they become more and more distant. things change. the mind changes.
the mind is enlarged. Immensely so. The ability to see things from different angles - enlarged. The capacity to be embarrassed by actions in the now or of one's history, that is gone, wholly gone. Nothing. no fear. No death, no time limits, no thought limits, none of that. All those pressures come to being of less import and notice than looking out the window of your car while driving. Totally off the radar and beneath any form of notice. All recorded and known but they carry no weight whatsoever. Meaningless.
Feelings are muted but freedom and peace loom so large that it is an immeasurable pleasure that is beyond your current capacity to understand. Those moments of it that bring you peace now, that bring tears to your eyes... are but a mere wisp of what it feels like, what the experience is like.
All limits and issues disappear. It makes me break down, right now... to remember that..freedom.
No pain, no aches, no mental cloudiness, nothing. suddenly you feel like you have an IQ of 200 plus and no thought, no understanding is impossible, for all of time as a limit, is gone. All bodily drives are gone.
All of space, and time, and dimension... cease to be a limit.
But watching them is ..painful. Like people poking sticks in their eyes, cutting themselves up, while wallowing around in mud that is burning their flesh. grinding themselves, blindly. They are both noble and savage beyond belief. You cry for them constantly. You help them, always, in any way that you can. You take their pain and lift them, when they can handle neither. and when the moment passes, they are left to it, again.
But they made this choice, just like you.
And you will do so again.
You will chose the most difficult thing you can do to yourself, that you think you can handle, without failing. A true challenge. a real challenge. One that has every chance of breaking you utterly.
For if not, then what is the point? Cakewalk lives, you can get that anywhere in the universe. The earth is special. It is tough, tough as can be.
The rainbow from hell.
Now playing:
m0-vKMEcKyM
Carmody
8th March 2013, 05:44
No one, while here, wants the game to continue.
No one, while not here, wants the game to end.
lookbeyond
8th March 2013, 06:19
Hi Carmody, do you feel that a person chooses difficulties in life so that they know how it feels to experience them or do you feel karma is at work?
Thanks in anticipation, lookbeyond
Fred Steeves
8th March 2013, 13:32
The ancient Hermetic saying "As above so below, as below so above", is a tool that offers much greater insight into things than we are ordinarily capable of. An example: In retrospect, the darkest and most grueling periods of my life, have also turned out to be the most invaluable teachers. If extrapolated out to reviewing the entire history of our incarnations, I feel it would show the same thing.
If you want to know what it's like to get all stinky and dirty, don't read a book about it, go play in the dirt. (LOL)
sleepy
8th March 2013, 14:11
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Carmody
8th March 2013, 14:18
Hi Carmody, do you feel that a person chooses difficulties in life so that they know how it feels to experience them or do you feel karma is at work?
Thanks in anticipation, lookbeyond
I can't speak for others, nor should one look to have that done for them. All this one can say is that the whole thing is blocked from conscious memory while here. Only snippets come through. blocked by the carrier of the system, the duality of the human mind structure. Some even teach how to get past this, the Buddhists, the spiritualists, and so on. Well integrated into the game.
It might be considered that we are getting clear on all this stuff..slowly..carefully. As this planet is off course. That we might need to rise enough, into knowing, long enough to correct the course.....and return to the dream.
If we do not rise and correct then it goes bad. If the pressure to rise enough is great enough, then this world might find itself rising into a new level.
if it rises into a new level, then it's older purpose is gone. The purpose it now serves will be gone. It is falling apart, is it not?
The one that is now...the one of the grind of the nightmare rainbow from hell. Where all extremes are in one spot. The most insane and complete bazaar of potentials that is in existence. All forms of beauty and all forms of nightmare, all as potential to be, to visit to try, to taste, to integrate with, in one world -one incarnation. Now THAT is unique. The biggest knot of an exchange/change/'path divergence'/superhighway of growth potential. Snakes and ladders... but all of them, all potentials in one spot. To come here perfected and have the potential to fall to the bottom, and to come here at the bottom and have potential to go to the top. All in the single lifetime... or across a thousand.
1-To rise to consciousness enough to break the path of destruction, and rise ...to a new level? With lesser purpose but more 'peace and comfort'?
2-To rise to a condition of breaking the path to destruction and then...returning to the dream? With the great complexities and colors remaining?
3-Or, do not rise and let it slip into a more pure nightmare, with lesser purpose, darker shades?
It is going to be one of these three.... obviously enough.
edit:
I have numbered them, so we can look at it a bit more clearly.
1 is a world of lesser choice.
3 is a world of lesser choice.
2 is the world of most choice and flavours. Which is the one we have now.
But, 2 is also the most impossible to achieve..from where we are now, as the time spent in being the world of #2, has brought it to the precipice.
The reason of having a race car, the nimble car, the responsive car, the capable car, the dancer... is to drive it near the edge. When the edge is found, then one presses the race car harder, until a new limit is found. And so on. Sooner or later the driver, the car, and the track... are spent up. A failure point in the system will occur. It can only go on for so long. Does one then shut down the track and build a new one? Build a new car? A whole new race system? After all, one does not want uncontrolled failure - no knowing will come of it. Nor does one want simplistic success, as that leaves no knowing of how one got there, if the race is too easy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNLc41ArS-k
If I could wave my magic wand...
I am made from the dust of the stars
and the oceans flow in my veins
here I hide in the heart of the city
like a stranger coming out of the rain
the evening plane rises up from the runway
over constellations of light
I look down into a million houses
and wonder what you're doing tonight
if I could wave my magic wand
I'd make everything all right
I'm not one to believe in magic
But I sometimes have a second-sight
I'm not one with a sense of proportion
When my heart still changes overnight
I had a dream of a winter garden
a midnight rendezvous
silver, blue, and frozen silence
what a fool I was for you
I had a dream of the open water
I was swimming away out to sea
so deep I could never touch bottom
what a fool I used (http://www.lyricsdepot.com/rush/presto.html#) to be
if I could wave my magic wand
I'd set everybody free
I'm not one to believe in magic
Though my memory has a second-sight
I'm not one to go pointing my finger
When I radiate more heat than light
don't ask me
I'm just improvising
my illusion of careless flight (http://www.lyricsdepot.com/rush/presto.html#)
can't you see
my temperature's rising
I radiate more heat than light
don't ask me
I'm just sympathizing
my illusions a harmless flight
can't you see
my temperature's rising
I radiate more heat than light
BrianEn
8th March 2013, 14:34
Ten years ago I just may have. Today is a no. I believe I'm here for a reason. I don't know what that reason is but I have no idea what that is. I really believe I'm not done here yet and the best may yet to come. I just don't know so I may as well stick around till my time here is done.
ulli
8th March 2013, 16:01
I'm always aware that I was given a magic wand a long long time ago,
but I'm not sure that I'm really using it right. I'm very self-critical,
and never 100% pleased with what I've done.
So I end up restless...hoping to improve and fighting apathy.
sleepy
8th March 2013, 16:22
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Fred Steeves
8th March 2013, 16:33
I think I may be frightened of my magic wand and I somehow know I am not in a 'well' enough state to use it. Also...hoping to improve.
Hi sleepy. Funny you mention that, because starting just a couple of short years ago, I began getting this 'impression': "You've had the power before, abused it, and subsequently lost it. Now you've finally earned the privilege of trying it again, if the prospect doesn't frighten you too much".
sleepy
8th March 2013, 16:47
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ulli
8th March 2013, 16:54
The trick is to use the magic wand rather than stare at it in fascination.
Everyone has one, that Im sure of. Few know that it has magic qualities.
And fewer still know how to wield it in such a way that it can express the will
of the highest...one that is even higher than one's own wildest imagination.
It's a matter of faith.
vje2
8th March 2013, 16:55
Well, having no spouse nor children, I would take it, there is nothing here holding me back to be quite honest.
ulli
8th March 2013, 16:57
I think I may be frightened of my magic wand and I somehow know I am not in a 'well' enough state to use it. Also...hoping to improve.
Hi sleepy. Funny you mention that, because starting just a couple of short years ago, I began getting this 'impression': "You've had the power before, abused it, and subsequently lost it. Now you've finally earned the privilege of trying it again, if the prospect doesn't frighten you too much".
I don't think it was ever lost. Guilt and fear intervened, like clouds blocking the sunlight.
A matter of forgiving oneself and getting on with it.
sleepy
8th March 2013, 18:05
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Carmody
10th March 2013, 06:47
My last communication with 'Charles', via PM touched on this.
I said that it appears that it is not yet time. They aren't ready yet. That the moment will not come, that the change will not come..until the last fingernails of the last person clinging..are broken free. Until the whole thing is finally in the air.
And that is a hellish bit of stress and nightmare away from finally happening. That the moment of change will not come until the last of them have finally let it go. And they are a stubborn, clinging, unrepentant, crying bunch...who simply don't know how to even begin to let it go.
But you are getting there, aren't you. Ready yet? hmmm? :)
When I sad that bit to him, this is what I meant. This is what I was speaking of. To change the world, you have to stop trying to change the world.
To understand, to be, at a level that is not of the mental, but of the 'being'.
It can't be forced, it can't be faked. To move into this, together. Not just one at a time, but to have much of the world become it:
Tn9-Ygto9yw
"Until the whole thing is finally in the air. "
Two inches off the ground, to be specific.
Spend the hour to listen. You will be rewarded. Or... the reward will become you. Any way you like it.
onawah
10th March 2013, 07:25
Thanks to Carmody for voicing so well what is so difficult to put into words about this life, especially in these particular times.
Speaking of magic wands, I have a whole set of magic wands,--my tuning forks, which I use to clear personal energy fields, balance chakras and bring in new energies.
http://www.mednet-healthcare.net/Support/Images/Diagnostic%20Equipments/tuningforksetflat.jpg
They are so much fun to work with.
I hope to get a large Vogel crystal this year to use in conjunction with that work.
Vogels magnify healing energies and are truly magical.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwcsEh-V4UqCndSb87Hm4uD3-RNOA7eB-0wkdUDqjXjb_robCm
I think real transformation comes when we work constructively because we enjoy it, not because we feel we should or we must.
That's where true effortless comes into play.
Carpathian
11th March 2013, 03:56
Yes. Sorry, but I'm miserable, and have had too much suffering for one lifetime. I would like, for once, to know peace.
Carpathian,
My wish for you is that you know peace. Life has not always been peaceful for me and it still has it moments but I feel that if I never felt great pain I wouldn't know peace.
Sleepy,
Thank you so much. I sincerely appreciate the thoughts and gesture :-) May you find the peace you are looking for as well.
sleepy
11th March 2013, 14:27
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