ALIEN ABDUCTION: Two Cases that Fascinate and Confuse.

[jimmer]

Here are videos of two starkly different alien abduction cases:

1 Travis Walton appears on a lie detection TV show, with a surprising conclusion.

2 A MUFON investigator and retired homicide detective chronicles a 'human mutilation' case from 2002.

These two examples showcase what's so fascinating and confusing about alien abduction cases.

What do you think?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gwYYeUGFGw&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFNNIv83dfQ&feature=related




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAurVTFi9O0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIJisXtJIU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj_hz7Dxecw&feature=related

[jaybee]

I kind of enjoyed the Moment of Truth programme.....poor guy, at the end.

The way the audience went...ooooooooooooooooooooooooo...when every question was asked..lol.

Only watched the first of the Mufon one...

Oh I don't know....I tend to think that the abduction stuff...mutilation stuff...could be a Black Ops thing.

Maybe a double wammy. They get to experiment on teleportation....and related weapons ...and at the
same time instill fear in the human population about ETs....?

[Harley]

Travis Walton appears on a lie detection TV show, with a surprising conclusion.

Oh, how I hate TV Game and Reality Shows. Although I felt compelled to watch it when I seen Travis Walton's name mentioned, I knew what the outcome would be. So predictable. But IMO this is exactly where the Polygraph should only ever be used . . . In entertainment!

The Truth About Polygraph:

Ironically, those polygraph examiners from federal and municipal law enforcement agencies hide behind their badges and want the public to believe in their accuracies, which isn't the case. The majority of law enforcement polygraph examiners lack intellectual soundness and knowledge of human behavior as related to detecting deception. In addition, most presuppose a person's guilt with lack of probable cause and tangible evidence. As an example, if a woman reported to the police that her estranged husband molested their child, law enforcement has been known to fail to investigate or attempt to prove or disprove the allegation made by the complainant. The estranged husband would then be administered a polygraph test and the results of the test become spurious in many cases. As another example, if a detective informs the polygraph examiner that the suspect is good for the crime, in many cases the polygraph results will be reported as deceptive. Why? Many reasons, although the first is dishonesty or incompetence. The same degree of incompetence in polygraph exists in the private sector and the reason is the same, inferior training and lack of integrity.

In the hands of competent polygraph practitioners the accuracy should be nearly 96 percent with a 4 percent margin of error. However, 4 percent is a large margin when considered inconclusive, this is most always caused by the practitioner and seldom by the person undergoing the polygraph test.http://www.justicedenied.org/thetruthaboutpolygraph.htm

Michael Shermer (Typical Skeptic Reasoning):

Travis, do you have any evidence to support your claim of being abducted?

Yah, I just don't except it. I think it's possible that you just made-up the story.
Abductees almost always have some form of evidence to back-up their claim, whether it be circumstantial or otherwise. Does the skeptic? And yet, when the skeptic has no evidence to support his claims he can just call us a liar and get away with it, and he is always backed by and focused on within the MSM, while the Abductee is always sneered and laughed at. What kind of sense is that? I have to admit that I was quite pleased to see Shermer's expression when he was 'Shot Down' by Travis AND the show's host!

Jimmer, as much as I don't care much for these types of shows I THANK YOU VERY MUCH for posting this one. Even though it was a bit difficult to watch it was great to see Travis again after all these years. Even though he will always be 'Haunted', he looks really good and has much love and understanding in his life.

I went the other way.

[jimmer]

it's gripping, the second walton video, when his family is shown waiting for the result to his answer
to the 'were you abducted' question. I think you're right harley, travis will be haunting by that final polygraph result.
his family must have been very confused and disappointed. will they ever really trust him again?
whether the polygraph was right or wrong, this event has cast internal family suspicions that weren't
necessary. all for a little money.

as for the mutilation videos, for me, the most interesting aspect is the ex-homicide detective himself.
you can see how disturbed these cases have made him. and as a credible, fact-based man, he is now a firm believer.
riveting.

[jaybee]

i said....

Oh I don't know....I tend to think that the abduction stuff...mutilation stuff...could be a Black Ops thing.

Maybe a double wammy. They get to experiment on teleportation....and related weapons ...and at the
same time instill fear in the human population about ETs....?




it's gripping, the second walton video, when his family is shown waiting for the result to his answer
to the 'were you abducted' question. I think you're right harley, travis will be haunting by that final polygraph result.
his family must have been very confused and disappointed. will they ever really trust him again?
whether the polygraph was right or wrong, this event has cast internal family suspicions that weren't
necessary. all for a little money.


I think they played a trick on him.....

See what I said, above....

If he was used in a secret teleportation experiment then his subconscious would know that,
even if his conscious memory was wiped.

So he thought he was answering truthfully....but his sub-conscious knew better...
hence the result..that cost him $100,000.....:(



as for the mutilation videos, for me, the most interesting aspect is the ex-homicide detective himself.
you can see how disturbed these cases have made him. and as a credible, fact-based man, he is now a firm believer.
riveting.


I think he was probably ACTING....he's a retired HOMICIDE detective, for heaven's sake!!
He must have seen many, many very horrible things in his career.

But......the nasty 'aliens' that do nasty 'things' have upset him......:rolleyes:


ciao for now...

[Little Ishta]

Well well... I have to say I totally believe Travis was abducted. I read the story a long time ago and then watched the movie. The movie was totally different than the book. And watching him on the moment of the truth, well lets just say I don't trust the show. The things they do to get better ratings... but the show is not on anymore is it? As for the mutilation one, I think its both government and alien doing it. Some people enjoy doing experimentation on humans and animals. Guess that is how doctors learn???

[jaybee]

Travis was really nervous, wasn't he....