The Soul And It's Physical Realm After Death

[CosmicKat]

This is a true account of my experience with the other side....

It was a beautiful day in July, 2003. My Husband and I had been camping in Northern Wisconsin and as we were going down a State Highway not much traveled, we saw a county campground tucked away in the woods and decided to pull in with our pop-up camper. It was a beautiful area set on Bear lake which was a small lake but big and deep enough to boat, fish and swim.

We set up our camp that afternoon which by the way was a stones throw from the lake and had a nice path directly down to the water.

An hour had gone by since setting up camp and we heard what we thought were young adults having fun in the water. The sounds went from laughing to screams or yelling of maddness..like someone was upset with water play. My Husband and I didn't think much of it, we thought that the kids were just having fun or horse playing until the yelling became more intense. We ventured down to the water to see what was transpiring only to find no signs of people in the water..nothing.. and by that time the screams or yelling had stopped.

We walked back to our camp and started to get ready for dinner when a young adult came walking up from the waters edge and directly through our camp. The young girl maybe 16 to 20 years of age was pale and wearing her clothes which consisted of a sleevless shirt and shorts that were completely soaked and shivering like a bug on ice.

As she continued walking up the path and heading towards the bathrooms situated on the hill a short distance from where we were, she entered the bathroom which was basically a nice version of an outhouse and went inside.

At that time, I decided to follow her and see if she was alright... She didn't look so good when walking by. I entered the bathroom only to find that no one was in there. There were wet foot prints that stopped mid way through but no girl. No foot prints leading out. I was baffled to say the least and at that moment a chill came over me and I quickly ran back to camp. Mind you that I was basically right behind her and she had no time to leave without me seeing her do so.

As I get back to our campsite, I had realized that the screams or yelling I had heard were that of distress. I knew at that point something bad had happened to this girl and that I was seeing a ghost. My Husband and I never heard the youths in the water again.

Our realm of existence alive or dead is something of wonder... at times almost scary. Why do some move on and some don't.

As new age Scientists are now discovering different dimensions, could they actually discover the dead dimension and be able to enter it? Maybe the God like dimension?
Could they figure out the way the souls travel and where they go?

[crosby]

CosmicKat, that is indeed a chilling story. i wonder the same regarding different dimensions, if the new age scientists find a way to enter, will it alter the physical reality that we now exist in?
warmest regards, corson

[greybeard]

Very reassuring NDEs found on the link.
They all have similar stories to tell.
We don’t die the body goes, when that happens we go home, there is no judgement but we experience from the others perspective how it felt to be treated by us.
If we were cruel we will experience that in exact proportion to the way the recipient felt it.
If we were kind the same
Basically it makes sense to treat the other as we would wish to be treated as that is exactly what we will experience when we die.
It all comes back to you--- no one escapes the consequence their actions.

Chris

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.&p=630209&viewfull=1#post630209

[Lone Bean]

Was her body found later by the police?

[markpierre]

Under certain circumstances a human identity can be distracted enough so that it doesn't recognize that it's dislocated from the body. The body is dead, but an identity that's inordinately fixated on it's human experience may continue to be so. We're all mostly absorbed in our individual illusions most of the time.

You're making your world as you go. That doesn't stop after 'death'. The physics of dimensions doesn't matter in that respect. What matters is where the attention lies.
It's as simple and direct as it is while in the body, that what you believe is what you see and what you will experience. The same is true of the 'perception' of an afterlife.
'This is me' which is what life is to you, is the same, in that it's an experience of 'mind'. The condition or state of your mind.
You may not believe in an afterlife, in which case you will be surprised, but in the same sense that your conscious mind isn't creating anything but simply interpreting its own condition, whatever you perceive will be what you're showing to yourself.
Awareness of the loss of the physical body is the awareness of the illusions of everything about the body such as death, and the fear of death.
Discovering that you're eternal and not a physical body will have a significant impact on your state of mind, don't you think?

Releasing the bodily identity is the same necessary process in every 'passing'. How that occurs, and how long it takes is unique to the individual. It depends on what needs to be processed.
Maybe nothing. Maybe an entire lifetime worth of grievances and regrets. That might influence the 'mode' of passing that's chosen.
But just as you have guides and teachers here that influence you on a level that allows and respects your choices, the choice to linger in a moment of trauma is respected as well.
The moment and method of death is as important as any other major life experience. You can spend a lifetime in remorse seemingly unnecessarily to an observer,
but very purposefully to the Self.
What can seem like a long time is irrelevant in timelessness. Just as it's always been, 'however long it takes', is how long it takes. But no one is allowed to dally indefinitely.

That's my own understanding, but it's based purely on my own experiences with transient or 'stuck' individuals, and their experiences of recognition that they had passed.
And with individuals in their processes of disengaging from this world and re-engaging with the next.
The veil never has been as thick as we'd imagined in our own preoccupation with density. If the veil is literally thinning, then I wouldn't be surprised if witnesses to that sort of phenomena were becoming more common. But I think it's that we're growing more perceptive that makes the difference.

[CosmicKat]

Lone bean:
I don't know the answer to that question. I only know that she died. :)

[CosmicKat]

Thanks for that Markpierre.

[greybeard]

One NDE relayed that the human body (animal) has a separate "identity"
There are people who have experienced OBe where they have found themselves at the back of the auditorium watching them "selves" playing.
Its possible in the OP that the body did not realise it was dead or there was a transition period where soul did not know it had died and was hanging on to physicality.
Those are just thoughts that occurred--- I dont know.

Chris

[Lifebringer]

Do your husband or you consider that you may have "heard a haunting" where someone lost their life in that little quiet lake, or a bear or wolf attack around the area?

Sometimes in a home that's haunted, the re-inactment is in constant flux if its a murder unsolved/unjust. Perhaps, this is a missing child that was murdered. If you and your husband have still a vivid, check missing children or teens in surrounding states as well as the one you were in.

If the teen is in there, you will know, and perhaps the parents of this child, may rest knowing some clue as to where she last was. You may not want to go as far as contact, but if you talk to a detective for some advice, and explain you've been on a missing child site because you remember the girls face before she disappeared. He'll tell you, he can't use the story as a reason to open the case because of believability, but may check himself in the area for clues. You or your husband have nothing to fear, and like I said, perhaps the same detective will take a little vacation himself, and experience the same thing. You could go back to see if it happens again, if you have no fear, and perhaps when the sounds occur, peek out at the commotion, to see what happened. If you were in tune to hear it, you may be able to see also.

[CosmicKat]

One NDE relayed that the human body (animal) has a separate "identity"
There are people who have experienced OBe where they have found themselves at the back of the auditorium watching them "selves" playing.
Its possible in the OP that the body did not realise it was dead or there was a transition period where soul did not know it had died and was hanging on to physicality.
Those are just thoughts that occurred--- I dont know.



Chris

I also feel that her body didn't know it was dead or at least the possibility of the fact that maybe she was trying to tell me someting and I didn't pay close enough attention. I just don't know. The OBE is absolutely fascinating and one that needs to be explored closer. I feel that with the discovery of extra dimensions that maybe this is possible.

[CosmicKat]

Do your husband or you consider that you may have "heard a haunting" where someone lost their life in that little quiet lake, or a bear or wolf attack around the area?

Sometimes in a home that's haunted, the re-inactment is in constant flux if its a murder unsolved/unjust. Perhaps, this is a missing child that was murdered. If you and your husband have still a vivid, check missing children or teens in surrounding states as well as the one you were in.

If the teen is in there, you will know, and perhaps the parents of this child, may rest knowing some clue as to where she last was. You may not want to go as far as contact, but if you talk to a detective for some advice, and explain you've been on a missing child site because you remember the girls face before she disappeared. He'll tell you, he can't use the story as a reason to open the case because of believability, but may check himself in the area for clues. You or your husband have nothing to fear, and like I said, perhaps the same detective will take a little vacation himself, and experience the same thing. You could go back to see if it happens again, if you have no fear, and perhaps when the sounds occur, peek out at the commotion, to see what happened. If you were in tune to hear it, you may be able to see also.

It's my belief that the girl is still there. I feel that maybe she was trying to tell us something and we just didn't grasp that. We were un-aware of the current news stories in the area as we were far from home. It's quite possible that she's a missing person.

Even though it's been some time..it wouldn't do me any harm in investigating the possibility of this. Thanks!

[conk]

Very interesting story. I can relate, having been married to a woman of extreme abilities that most can't relate to. My mom and my daughter often see entities. It's become old hat to us. Oh, saw another one....yawn. Truly extraordinary what goes on around us and most of us can't perceive it.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Very interesting story. I can relate, having been married to a woman of extreme abilities that most can't relate to. My mom and my daughter often see entities. It's become old hat to us. Oh, saw another one....yawn. Truly extraordinary what goes on around us and most of us can't perceive it.I am interested to hear what your wife's experiences were!

[conk]

Very interesting story. I can relate, having been married to a woman of extreme abilities that most can't relate to. My mom and my daughter often see entities. It's become old hat to us. Oh, saw another one....yawn. Truly extraordinary what goes on around us and most of us can't perceive it.I am interested to hear what your wife's experiences were!

I met her when I was 17 and she was 15. We were on the street corner at a friend's house. An ESP game was played, with one person naming a category and the others trying to read the mind of the point person. If I stated Automobile, the rest would try and guess. Ford? GM? VW? BMW? Well, my ex would blurt out the category before the point person could even state it. Everyone got spooked and left, except me. I was mesmerized. We dated and married. As the years went by I noticed her abilities grow and develop. She began to have extreme OBEs, often coming home from her late night shift to visit me at home. I could hide nothing as she always knew what I did alone. I snuck off to a nightclub one night and made out with another woman. The next morning the ex told me she could barely see me though the dense smoke in the club, but described the other woman down to her strange pink striped zebra shoes (hey, it was the 80s!).

People would approach us in public, other people with similar abilities. She always stood up and walked to the phone 5 seconds before it rang. She saw apparitions and communicated with them. I often felt as if another person was with us during sexual experiences. Sometimes I felt like I was in the way of her enjoyment with this entity.

When we divorced I traveled to another state with a woman friend. Upon my return the ex told me she was glad to see I had not slept in the same bed with the woman, which I did not. She told me about the bizarre red carpet in the people's home we visited. She knew that we had eaten racoon and other wild game for Thanksgiving dinner. She knew I slept on the couch. She knew we smoked pot. She was THERE, but not physically.

Much more and some of it scary and demonic. She fought hard to lose her abilities, as they frightened her......and me. I have not seen her for 30 years, but last year I had an odd feeling that she had passed away. For many years after our divorce I often felt her presence in the room.

My daughter has had numerous odd experiences with entities, geometric shapes floating in her room, lights moving through her bedroom walls, lights outside her window that she swears are observing her. The light outside her window moves very erratically and instantaneously. We have it on video. I suspect she has been abducted as well. This, I pray, is not true. She thinks it is true. She used to tell of a man sitting on the side of her bed when she was 4 years old. On and on.....

[Youniverse]

My view on ghosts has changed quite a bit over the years. I am now mindful of simultaneity(past, present, future) and how this may explain what people are actually seeing when they see ghosts. If we are at a particular frequency and all other worlds/times/epochs are right now at different frequencies, if we are able to 'tune in' to a different frequency, would we not see strange things indeed? So maybe folks that see ghosts, do so because they are more sensitive to other frequencies than most? Another way to say it is, since time is an illusion, it is only a matter of frequency or vibration, right? Therefore, in theory, someone that 'died' in the past or even in the future could be seen by an observer(in any time) going about their business right now. So I think some ghosts may be humans of the future, as well as the past.

[CosmicKat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke0ZtXYw3QA&feature=player_detailpage

This is an older video but worth watching.