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Cidersomerset
14th March 2013, 21:20
Don't worry if you do not understand this , as Ion would say scientists have not
got a clue about physics...LOL..This cheers me up at least, because i do not
have to get bogged down in the 'scientific babble'.....I know reality is not what
we have been taught..!!!

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BBC ONLIN....


The BBC's Pallab Ghosh: "The mystery of how the universe works is even greater"
Theres a theory in sub atomic physics that only explains 4% of the universe,called
'The Standard Model'......theres a little vid on link....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21785205




14 March 2013 Last updated at 10:15

LHC cements Higgs boson identificationBy Jason Palmer

Science and technology reporter, BBC News


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The story of the precise nature of the particle announced in July is slowly pressing
ahead Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider say the particle outlined in July 2012 looks
increasingly to be a Higgs boson.The Higgs, long theorised as the means by which
particles get their mass, had been the subject of a decades-long hunt at the world's
particle accelerators.Yet there is still some uncertainty as to whether the particle is
indeed a Higgs, and if so, what type it is.Results at the Moriond meeting in Italy suggest
strongly that the particle's "spin" is consistent with a Higgs.Teams from the two Higgs-
hunting experiments, Atlas and CMS, analysed two-and-a-half times more data than
were available in July in an effort to pin down not only the particle's existence, but also
something about its character.All that is conclusively established is that the particle is in
the family of bosons, but researchers had been careful since July to describe it
as "Higgs-like".

'New story'

The zoo of subatomic particles are characterised by properties including their "spin"
and "parity" - and the precise establishment of these properties for the new particle will
determine if it is beyond doubt the long-sought Higgs.

What is more, theories predict that a number of different types of Higgs may exist.

The BBC's Pallab Ghosh: "The mystery of how the universe works is even greater"
The simplest form - that which fits neatly into the existing Standard Model of particle
physics - would surely shore up the theory, but the possible existence of more "exotic"
versions of the particle would open exciting new vistas in science.

"This is the start of a new story of physics," said Tony Weidberg, Oxford University
physicist and a collaborator on the Atlas experiment.

"Physics has changed since July the 4th - the vague question we had before was to see
if there was anything there," he told BBC News.

"Now we've got more precise questions: is this particle a Higgs boson, and if so, is it
one compatible with the Standard Model?"

The results reported at the conference - based on the entire data sets from 2011 and
2012 - much more strongly suggest that the new particle's "spin" is zero - consistent
with any of the theoretical varieties of Higgs.

"The preliminary results with the full 2012 data set are magnificent and to me it is clear
that we are dealing with a Higgs boson, though we still have a long way to go to know
what kind of Higgs boson it is," said CMS spokesperson Joe Incandela. As is often the
case in particle physics, a fuller analysis of data will be required to establish beyond
doubt that the particle is a Higgs of any kind. But Dr Weidberg said that even these
early hints were compelling.

"This is very exciting because if the spin-zero determination is confirmed, it would be
the first elementary particle to have zero spin," he said.

"So this is really different to anything we have seen before."

Even more data will be required to explore the question of more "exotic" Higgs particles.
A popular but as-yet unsubstantiated theory called supersymmetry suggests there
should be as many as five Higgs particles - a notion that will have to remain speculative
at least until new data are acquired after the LHC's two-year shutdown for
refurbishment.

The Standard Model and the Higgs boson


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• The Standard Model is the simplest set of ingredients - elementary particles - needed
to make up the world we see in the heavens and in the laboratory

• Quarks combine together to make, for example, the proton and neutron - which make
up the nuclei of atoms today - though more exotic combinations were around in the
Universe's early days

• Leptons come in charged and uncharged versions. Electrons - the most familiar
charged lepton - together with quarks make up all the matter we can see; the
uncharged leptons are neutrinos, which rarely interact with matter

• The "force carriers" are particles whose movements are observed as familiar forces
such as those behind electricity and light (electromagnetism) and radioactive decay (the
weak nuclear force)

• The Higgs boson came about because although the Standard Model holds together
neatly, nothing requires the particles to have mass; for a fuller theory, the Higgs - or
something else - must fill in that gap


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21785205


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Sean Carroll - The Particle at the End of the Universe..THE ROYAL INSTITUTE..


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Published on 18 Jan 2013


It was the universe's most elusive particle, the linchpin for everything scientists
dreamed up to explain how stuff works. It had to be found. But projects as big as
CERN's Large Hadron Collider don't happen without dealing and conniving,
incredible risks and occasional skullduggery.

Award-winning physicist and science popularizer Sean Carroll reveals the history-
making forces of insight, rivalry, and wonder that fuelled the Higgs search and how
its discovery opens a door into the mind-boggling domain of dark matter and other
phenomena we never predicted.

Watch the event Q&A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aom5Si...

Tesla_WTC_Solution
14th March 2013, 21:23
November revolution is what that makes me think of!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J/%CF%88_meson

The J/ψ (J/Psi) meson (sometimes referred to as a psion[citation needed]) is a subatomic particle, a flavor-neutral meson consisting of a charm quark and a charm antiquark. Mesons formed by a bound state of a charm quark and a charm anti-quark are generally known as "charmonium". The J/ψ is the first excited state of charmonium (i.e., the form of the charmonium with the second-smallest rest mass). The J/ψ has a rest mass of 3.0969 GeV/c2, and a mean lifetime of 7.2×10−21 s. This lifetime was about a thousand[1] times longer than expected.

Its discovery was made independently by two research groups, one at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, headed by Burton Richter, and one at the Brookhaven National Laboratory, headed by Samuel Ting at MIT. They discovered they had actually found the same particle, and both announced their discoveries on 11 November 1974. The importance of this discovery is highlighted by the fact that the subsequent, rapid changes in high-energy physics at the time have become collectively known as the "November Revolution". Richter and Ting were rewarded for their shared discovery with the 1976 Nobel Prize in Physics.

thank you for posting that standard model chart, reminds me of the periodic table of elements, lol! it is a great visual aid for memorizing the subatomic particles and I appreciate seeing it.

ghostrider
15th March 2013, 00:57
this machine , this collider is only there to attempt to open a portal in spacetime ... if they succeed, who knows , who or what will enter this realm ... don't let them trick you, it's a portal machine... thats all ...dont be fooled by the scientific jargen ... member they hide the truth in the open...

Cidersomerset
15th March 2013, 01:21
this machine , this collider is only there to attempt to open a portal in spacetime ...
if they succeed, who knows , who or what will enter this realm ... don't let them
trick you, it's a portal machine... thats all ...dont be fooled by the scientific
jargen ... member they hide the truth in the open...



Bob, ion ,Carolyn and James talking about Cern.......Some detailed stuff.

August 17, 2010


http://halkinnaman.com/ed/audio_rr/ion_cern_chromosome14.mp3

iON | CERN & Chromosome 14




Source: 31 March 2010 Cash Flow, 7 April 2010 Cash Flow, howionic.com



1 April 2010—A would-be saboteur arrested today at the Large Hadron Collider in
Switzerland made the bizarre claim that he was from the future. Eloi Cole, a
strangely dressed young man, said that he had travelled back in time to prevent
the LHC from destroying the world. continue reading »

In the audio below, iON responds to several stories about CERN including the man
from the future and reveals the relationship between the experiments at CERN and
Chromosome 14.


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Man arrested at Large Hadron Collider claims he's from the future
By Nick Hide on 1 April 2010, 10:33am
Gadgets

A would-be saboteur arrested today at the Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland
made the bizarre claim that he was from the future. Eloi Cole, a strangely dressed
young man, said that he had travelled back in time to prevent the LHC from
destroying the world.


The LHC successfully collided particles at record force earlier this week, a milestone
Mr Cole was attempting to disrupt by stopping supplies of Mountain Dew to the
experiment's vending machines. He also claimed responsibility for the infamous
baguette sabotage in November last year.

Mr Cole was seized by Swiss police after CERN security guards spotted him rooting
around in bins. He explained that he was looking for fuel for his 'time machine
power unit', a device that resembled a kitchen blender.

Police said Mr Cole, who was wearing a bow tie and rather too much tweed for his
age, would not reveal his country of origin. "Countries do not exist where I am
from. The discovery of the Higgs boson led to limitless power, the elimination of
poverty and Kit-Kats for everyone. It is a communist chocolate hellhole and I'm
here to stop it ever happening."

This isn't the first time time-travel has been blamed for mishaps at the LHC. Last
year, the Japanese physicist Masao Ninomiya and Danish string-theory pioneer
Holger Bech Nielsen put forward the hypothesis that the Higgs boson was
so "abhorrent" that it somehow caused a ripple in time that prevented its own
discovery.


Professor Brian Cox, a CERN physicist and full-time rock'n'roll TV scientist, was
sympathetic to Mr Cole. "Bless him, he sounds harmless enough. At least he didn't
mention bloody black holes."

Mr Cole was taken to a secure mental health facility in Geneva but later
disappeared from his cell. Police are baffled, but not that bothered.

http://informationfarm.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/ion-cern-chromosome-14.html

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/man-arrested-at-large-hadron-collider-claims-hes-from-the-future-49305387/

Conchis
15th March 2013, 09:38
I heard Michio Kaku say that the next thing that the LHC would work on is dark matter. I have no clue where we, as a civilization, are going with this, but we are running what amounts to the decoding of the DNA of the universe, frequency by frequency. I've always wondered if in the end we don't create the universe that we live in.

Sérénité
15th March 2013, 13:57
I remember reading this article a few years ago about the CERN incident, after the initial excitement of learning of its existence, my heart sunk at the thought of tweed and kit-kats still being around in the distant future!
On a more serious note, its quite concerning to think that 'they' are possibly opening a revolving door that cant be closed again.