Disclosure "IS" Coming & "SOON"..!

[jackovesk]

Disclosure "AINT" coming from the Govt./Vatican/UN or anywhere else...:nono:

However Disclosure "IS" coming from the (Benevolent ET's) themselves and the Govt./Elite Criminals & their minions will be 'Powerless' to stop it...:yes4:


The 'Event' - Coming to a Sky near YOU..!

...and the Govt./Vatican/UN (Know It), they know its coming..!

Hence, WHY they are going to such extravagant lengths to try and Co-Opt it in some form or another before it happens...:yes4:



Whether is be by a 'UFO' False Flag Event
Leaking from the Vatican
Star War Defense Systems (Strategic Defence Initiative)
Military Industrial Complex (Black Projects)

See its all about 'CONTROLLING' the information flow & Co-Opting the inevitable...:yes4:

With the Govt. Strategy - (1st in Best Dressed)...

PS - That's my take on the matter and my guess is where going to find out pretty soon one way or the other...

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PSS - The 'Benevolents' say...


Not so Fast - And "Hands Off" the Earth you Desperate 'Criminal' FOOLS...:nono:

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PSSS - So forget about what you read in the MSM or even the Alternative Media and in turn dissipate (All the FEAR) attached to it...

Just relax and enjoy the SHOW, its a 'Spiritual' thing you see...:)

I know some of you will be asking - How does he Know..?

I will 'Answer' that right hear and now - "I just Do" & that is MHO...

I will ask 'You' a Question though...


What Do You Think..?

[crosby]

i think that you may be absolutely correct jacko. i have a deep inner feeling that keeps building a little bit each day. it's the kind of feeling like when you were a little kid and did something wrong and you knew that when your parents found out there would be hell to pay....... that's what it feels like..... the suspense is killing me...... i wish it would hurry up already.......
regards, corson

[apokalypse]

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[Njord]

The continuous show "Disclosure is imminent", is only hurting the whole subject.
However entertaining it is, I cannot get rid of this feeling that each and every person claiming "on the date xxxx there will be a massive event", is either misinformed, planted, or just plain crazy.

In my personal opinion, Occams Razor is applicable here.

I trust no one. I question everything. And I believe nothing.

[Lefty Dave]

Greetings

Personally, my feeling is if TPTB would just come clean on the inner earth realms and the peoples who have inhabited this planet long before our 're-creation', most of the questions would answer themselves...
It also seems like those who inhabit the inner cities should make themselves known to surface society...NOW !!
Have kept up for more than two decades now, and nothing ever seems to happen Amenti, Agartha, Shamballa, Telos....we keep hearing that "soon we will show ourselves", and yet it never happens.
It is my feeling that the moment people start reviewing the Adm Byrd story, the Thule story, and the countless other references to inner earth societies...that date back to antiquity ...maybe we can get a better perspective as to who we are, who THEY are, and what life is all about.
I don't believe for a minute that all the sightings that have been reported over the last 200 years, are 'others' visiting us from lightyears away....we're just not that interesting !!!!

Blessings.

[RMorgan]

The continuous show "Disclosure is imminent", is only hurting the whole subject.
However entertaining it is, I cannot get rid of this feeling that each and every person claiming "on the date xxxx there will be a massive event", is either misinformed, planted, or just plain crazy.

In my personal opinion, Occams Razor is applicable here.

I trust no one. I question everything. And I believe nothing.

I agree with you on this one, my friend.

Disclosure might happen next week just like it can never happen during our lifetime. It´s totally unpredictable.

Anyway, I really don´t care. If it happens, I´m fine; If it doesn´t, I´m fine as well.

I just hope that, if it ever happens, the ETs would come down here to help us, not to farm us.

Raf.

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[Lifebringer]

Congrats Jack. He that stands at the door and knocks, that's Jack.

[Silo]

One thing I will agree with is that fear is the enemy here. Relax and have a good cup of whatever you like seems like good advice to me.

There is good evidence that they have been here all along.....we know so little and what we do is largely speculative.

When in doubt.....

[white wizard]

Disclosure is going to happen, but is it imminent? I don't see the

signs. Are we ready? I do not think so, but disclosure soon would

be nice. As in the next five to ten years. still the first sign would

be the disclosure of life beyond this planet. then the disclosure of

intelligent life followed by the disclosure of intelligent life visiting this

planet. I agree while many people in the western world may be

ready for disclosure it would still have a very profound impact on

other countries not ready and could lead to civil unrest. I see more

people waking up at a steadily increasing rate, but any benevolent

E.T.'s would not make there presence known until the time was

right, where there would be the least psychological impact. E.T.

contact would shatter most religion and until there is something

in place to cushion that blow I do not see it happening.

[Star Tsar]

I don't want my/your/anybody's government involved in my first ET experience!!!
AT ALL
And if they do disclose looking @ the state of the world as it is right now I think it would mean bad news for humanity...
:hungry: to meet my/our cosmic friends & family!

[DeDukshyn]

Are we ready for "disclosure"? (IMHO there is so much more to disclosure than "ets are real" -- but when that happens "reality" will soon follow and it is this our "elite" are afraid of) No ... but if we don't fit that square peg through the round hole perhaps these alternate questions may indicate the priority of what needs to happen and when ...

Are we ready for depopulation?
Are we ready for a nuclear war?
Are we ready for WWIII whether nuclear or not?
Are we ready to have all our freedoms stolen?
Are we ready to be a slave race?

If "disclosure" happens, I see all the above endeavours failing.

I sense a "race" of sorts ... My 2 cents ...


Strangely, I sense some truth in Jacko's OP ... however, in my understanding of the "timings" of things -- "Soon" is extremely relative, and still may be a ways off ...

[DeDukshyn]

...

I trust no one. I question everything. And I believe nothing.

Don't forget to consider everything, and your set!!
Also, events may be real and coming --- but dates are always wrong no matter what and usually if a date is attached to anything, you can remove most of that value right there.

[Star Tsar]

Are we ready to be a slave race?

It is my belief that we already are!

:lever::bolt:

[DeDukshyn]

Are we ready to be a slave race?

It is my belief that we already are!

:lever::bolt:

Well played! ;) ;)

[Johnnyknows]

I and 13 family members Thanksgiving day 1974 had our disclosure. Above us in a 40 acre field there it was, in all its terrifying beauty, the blue black patina of an old shotgun barrel, a elongated triangle. Hovering silently maybe 200 feet above us and we watched until darkness was nearly upon us. My older cousin slipped away and returned with my fathers military issued battery spot light. We begged him not to, but he did. Nothing for the 10 minutes or so as he beamed it in every concievable way until...he was surrounded in white light so bright, it hurt to look at it. His brother grabed him and we all ran back to the fields edge, to the well worn path back to the house a hundred or so yards away. We all hit the living room floor, turned off all the lights and listened as though our lives depended on it. We know what we saw. There are 10 of us still alive. I often wonder if we were taken aboard and just dont realize it. No indications we were. Since then I have researched it all and still do. Funny how triangles didnt start showing up until decades later. We live 2 miles from COMSAT and when that array fired up , many sitings were wispered about. This happened in Southbury Ct, 06488.
Disclosure, I have a feeling if done, would create much anger, mistrust and outrage in America. Denial has always been the motto. For the people to discover being lied to for so long, would open pandoras box. What else are they not telling us. LOTS!

[East Sun]

Humans have always been too easily conditioned by promises and fear by religions and kings and greedy manipulators.

Who said, "get rid of kings, religions and criminals of all kinds and then we can have the natural world all to our selves so we can fight over it and have to find kings, religions and turn to crime to keep the crazy selfish greedy populations in their place."

Who ever it was, was put away for daring to tell it like it is.

Seriously though folks, we need a higher intelligence to come up with an answers. ETs or a Messiah, a righteous genius. Have we not proven a billion time that we can't do it ourselves. But really, I'm thinking of giving up being serious.
Then maybe that's the best answer. It should be taken as one big joke.
MMmmbbbaaaaaahaaahaaaaahaa....

[Njord]

...

I trust no one. I question everything. And I believe nothing.

Don't forget to consider everything, and your set!!
Also, events may be real and coming --- but dates are always wrong no matter what and usually if a date is attached to anything, you can remove most of that value right there.

I thought that part was pretty obvious for someone part of this community ;)

Anything and everything is possible. But I have yet to see any event happen on set dates.

I loved "Charles" comment on "dates and calendars" in the Rulers of the World interview that Bill did, and feel the same way.

And disclosure has been an on-going process now for a long time. Just not from the places, people, and institutions, that some would have liked.

If it comes, fine. If it doesn't, well thats just fine too. I've never been much for relying on others when it comes to pretty much anything.

[ghostrider]

We are vibrating at a higher rate these days, ET will pick up on that... just by focusing our intention on breaking the chains that have enslaved us for so long, will bring a better world ... newsflash , ET looks just like you, we share a common ancestory with them, fleeing Lyra coming to mars, then to earth , then leaving , then returning, then leaving, and here we are , a mixed bag of ET genetics and walk in souls, big universe out there, we chose to come here, helping to bring the knowledge of the real human history to earth ... the plejaren ( sons of heaven) mixed with the three races on earth, ancient peoples called them Gods, and the vatican and the council of Nicea have gone to great lengths to hide this from humanity, but that time is over ...

[apokalypse]

Bob Dean talked about Discolsure in 21:00min mark
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he does raise one interesting point and agree with him on Disclosure happen through Hollywood or leaking like whistleblowers or who have involve with secret programs/projects.

if Disclosure through Government does happens especially with Secret Technology then this means they have lying to use for so many decades...some people could really get pissed off, you have all of these technologies and keep it to yourself let the people being enslave paying electricity bills and using oil? waste so much energy on so called Rockets fly to Mars or outer space?

don't expect Disclosure from Government...

[Mad Hatter]

So does this mean we are past the heavy breathing stage....:p

[universe]

I am so tired of hearing the words "most people are not ready". If we are waiting for everyone to be ready, it will never happen. We knew what we were getting into before we arrived. I dare the PTB to let everything out of the bag. I dare them to release what they have been up to all these years. If they are so invincible, it will not matter.
Let it all out all at once, let the **** hit the fan and get on with it. They pussy foot around probably because they don't know or have half the **** we think they do.
The greatest magic trick on Earth is the one that never took place.

[ljwheat]

I really do not understand the need for discloser from any one out side yourself or the obsession of everyone being on the same page, as the world is round not flat.

When Columbus sailed the hi sea’s or we sail the hi space, your going to run into life, no matter where you venture there is life. This show’s how dombed down humanity truly are. In all of Nature we are the only ones programmed not to use the bump between our shoulders.

Seeing a light on the horizon you know there may be life near it. And I knew there was life near every star as a child before all the programs were installed in my head.

It’s the program that need approval from outside of you, to make this so? Look in not out. Or stop calling ourselves aware.

[meat suit]

The continuous show "Disclosure is imminent", is only hurting the whole subject.
However entertaining it is, I cannot get rid of this feeling that each and every person claiming "on the date xxxx there will be a massive event", is either misinformed, planted, or just plain crazy.

In my personal opinion, Occams Razor is applicable here.

I trust no one. I question everything. And I believe nothing.

I agree with you on this one, my friend.

Disclosure might happen next week just like it can never happen during our lifetime. It´s totally unpredictable.

Anyway, I really don´t care. If it happens, I´m fine; If it doesn´t, I´m fine as well.

I just hope that, if it ever happens, the ETs would come down here to help us, not to farm us.

Raf.

great typo Raf... maybe not 'harm' us but maybe still 'farm' us....

[jackovesk]

I am so tired of hearing the words "most people are not ready". If we are waiting for everyone to be ready, it will never happen. We knew what we were getting into before we arrived. I dare the PTB to let everything out of the bag. I dare them to release what they have been up to all these years. If they are so invincible, it will not matter.
Let it all out all at once, let the **** hit the fan and get on with it. They pussy foot around probably because they don't know or have half the **** we think they do.
The greatest magic trick on Earth is the one that never took place.


I am so tired of hearing the words "most people are not ready"

So am I, universe...:yes4:

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[jackovesk]

Time to (Snap Out Of It) the EARTH needs YOU now..!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTKvOl0tZxA

[donk]

I just watched Brad Meltzer's Decoded on H2, some levelheaded evidence based disclosure from people who call experiencers kooks--REAL good for a MSM program. Check it out if you can...

[The Castellan]

I am so tired of hearing the words "most people are not ready". If we are waiting for everyone to be ready, it will never happen. We knew what we were getting into before we arrived. I dare the PTB to let everything out of the bag. I dare them to release what they have been up to all these years. If they are so invincible, it will not matter.
Let it all out all at once, let the **** hit the fan and get on with it. They pussy foot around probably because they don't know or have half the **** we think they do.
The greatest magic trick on Earth is the one that never took place.

THANK YOU! I myself am SICK and TIRED of "We're not ready!" or "The institutions of the world will crumble!" We ARE ready, we will never see disclosure happen otherwise, plus how many times have we had to do things, even when we are 'not ready'? And as for institutions gone...I say GOOD RIDDANCE to bad rubbish! Most religions like Hindu, Dogon, Muslim and Native American are fine with alien life because they been visited by them before! Only Bible Belt Christians and some Evangelicals will have a problem...but screw them with a phillips, says I. And the ones to be devastated, actually, will be mainstream scientists because they will no longer be true masters of nature...and they often have egos and arrogance bigger than rock stars, pro athletes and elected politicians COMBINED. The other would be the oil pimps. And let me tell you, seeing the oil companies be destroyed, and pay for their crimes against humanity.

And let me tell you, if anyone panics during disclosure or first contact, and they want to hang themselves, just because they can't handle it...I'll be more than happy to buy them some rope. That might sound cruel of me, BUT personally, I am soooooo tired of all these "Almost there!" or this PAINFULLY SLOW drip......drip.......drip....time release pill policy. I turned 35 today, and I do NOT want to be either DEAD or soooo soooo old that I can't enjoy disclosure and contact when it happens.....I am so tired, I have been obsessed with aliens since I was a 12 year old kid in 1991. I want....correction....I NEED to see it happen.

[chocolate]

So, am I ... the... universe...?

:yes4:

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[The Castellan]

I really do not understand the need for discloser from any one out side yourself or the obsession of everyone being on the same page, as the world is round not flat.

When Columbus sailed the hi sea’s or we sail the hi space, your going to run into life, no matter where you venture there is life. This show’s how dombed down humanity truly are. In all of Nature we are the only ones programmed not to use the bump between our shoulders.

Seeing a light on the horizon you know there may be life near it. And I knew there was life near every star as a child before all the programs were installed in my head.

It’s the program that need approval from outside of you, to make this so? Look in not out. Or stop calling ourselves aware.
That might be all nice and good on paper, but until disclosure/contact happens it's going to be business as usual. The bad guys will reign supreme, the earth is going to be a filthier toilet, man's going to become a more stupid monkey, and all that one can look foreword to is having one's casket put into the ground. Dunno about you, but I want something a lot more than that, and it's my life long desire/need to meet aliens and travel the stars before I die....looooong before I die, and when I do snuff it, I want to be buried on an alien planet, Earth's never felt like my home.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

The phrase often used "The people are not ready" has justification I'm afraid, the average joe having to deal with day to day life, keeping a home and family running on ever tightening finances and job cuts has no time to worry or think about such topics as Ufo/Alien Disclosure. Everyone here is different from your average joe whom has little or no interest in things we openly talk about and accept here and on similar forums and websites. Its an entirely different World. Average joe would not and possibly will never be ready for disclosure. BUT, one thing we all must deeply think about is..............disclosure levels. The first layer or level with officials openly declaring global visitation by craft and beings not of this World immediately opens up the next layer or level. The deeper we go the darker it gets. That's NEVER going to be allowed.

[Operator]

The phrase often used "The people are not ready" has justification I'm afraid, the average joe having to deal with day to day life, keeping a home and family running on ever tightening finances and job cuts has no time to worry or think about such topics as Ufo/Alien Disclosure. Everyone here is different from your average joe whom has little or no interest in things we openly talk about and accept here and on similar forums and websites. Its an entirely different World. Average joe would not and possibly will never be ready for disclosure. BUT, one thing we all must deeply think about is..............disclosure levels. The first layer or level with officials openly declaring global visitation by craft and beings not of this World immediately opens up the next layer or level. The deeper we go the darker it gets. That's NEVER going to be allowed.

I fully agree :thumb:
How can we say that we are ready while we don't know what to be ready for? I think that even here we do not fully
comprehend the implications in its entirety. And I have proof from close relatives that they are not ready for even the
simplest level of it all. My mother told me she would be scared to death, it simply does not 'fit' in the paradigm of that
generation. My wife is at the level that she understands what I am talking about but simply does not accept it as a
potential reality like perhaps possible but still centuries away. My kids just shrug with an attitude of 'who cares'.

So who is really waiting for lying officials to open their mouths?

[The Castellan]

The phrase often used "The people are not ready" has justification I'm afraid, the average joe having to deal with day to day life, keeping a home and family running on ever tightening finances and job cuts has no time to worry or think about such topics as Ufo/Alien Disclosure. Everyone here is different from your average joe whom has little or no interest in things we openly talk about and accept here and on similar forums and websites. Its an entirely different World. Average joe would not and possibly will never be ready for disclosure. BUT, one thing we all must deeply think about is..............disclosure levels. The first layer or level with officials openly declaring global visitation by craft and beings not of this World immediately opens up the next layer or level. The deeper we go the darker it gets. That's NEVER going to be allowed.
I say SCREW average joe with a phillips. Average Joe NEEDS to wake up, needs to put down that beer, and realize there's more to life than taxes and a 6 foot hole in the ground. And I myself am SICK to death of protecting the stupid apes at the expense of the rest of us. It's like punishing an entire class room when one nasty kid makes the teacher mad. Because of this, I am starting to HATE my own species, that I gotta get dragged down to roll in the mud with the dumb monkeys.

I said this many times in the month I've been here. Mankind NEEDS a seldom seen, LOOOOOOONG overdue CULTURE SHOCK. It's the only way things will get better, and once the cat is out of the bag.....home and finances will mean NOTHING....absolutely nothing. And with the introduction of free energy....this miserable, dog-eat-dog, trying to pay the bills stagnation called mainstream life will END. It needs to end, or do you ENJOY being miserable, stressed out and dying prematurely, all for the sake of these stupid pieces of cotton and linen with the faces of ugly dead guys on 'em?

I'm ready for a change, I'm ready to see the aliens, I'm ready to tell this world what it can do with its white picket fences.


Average joe would not and possibly will never be ready for disclosure.
Then say good bye to freedom and the human race in general. Because the universe is big and vast, and unless disclosure and contact happens, humans will be nothing but a memory within the next 1,000 years....and my only regret, so far, is not being there to LAUGH at humanity in its death throes and kick humanity in the ribs, and tell mankind, "Yea....ya sure did GREAT, see ya in hell!"


BUT, one thing we all must deeply think about is..............disclosure levels. The first layer or level with officials openly declaring global visitation by craft and beings not of this World immediately opens up the next layer or level. The deeper we go the darker it gets. That's NEVER going to be allowed.
Then open the layers, let's start peeling. I'm more than ready to grab pandora's box and SMASH it open on the floor. Got news for you...man's a dying race.....as I said, we'll be gone in 1,000 years...either by blowing each other up in some pointless war, the pollution finally killing us, or we end up like Mad Max, or worse the horrible film, Def Con 4, where we all become savage, engage in resource wars and possibly cannibalism once the earth is so over populated, under fed and all that matters to each stupid monkey is trying to survive for yet another day.

And personally, I have NO remorse, pity or sympathy for the cover up folks, the military industrial complex and the institutions of the world. Like the old saying goes, "You made the bed, you go lay in it", plus "you can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs". Start busting some eggs, put the power mongers to bed....permanently.....I am sure no one in the world is going to get weepy over the loss of the powers that be.

Now disclosure can happen one of 2 ways. You somehow, by some MIRACLE, managed to put the bad guys in their place without bloodshed, or, the more realistic one.....be prepared to fight a battle that will cost the lives of many....because the bad guys will NOT simply come out with their hands up and throw themselves upon our mercy (they did not give mercy to the truth seekers they killed, why should we give them mercy?). This is why I am for an alien intervention, direct contact, like how we contacted aliens in the distant past. And I am not willing to wait until man 'is ready' because I'll either be dead or geriatric by then, and that is NOT acceptable to me. I'm not planning on being a modern day Kunta Kintea and HOPE that things will somehow come out right on their own. Because if I die with little to no contact with aliens.....better pray I go to hell, because you'll see a steaming mad fellow at the pearly gates, body slamming St. Peter and shoving my way through the line, because god's gonna have a LOT to explain, sending me to this miserable planet populated by a pathetic species of pitiful monkeys.

So, disclosure, as well as contact, MUST happen.....otherwise ~hops in bed to take a nap~.....to quote that line from "Wizards", wake me up after the world's been destroyed.:wizard:

[The Castellan]

The phrase often used "The people are not ready" has justification I'm afraid, the average joe having to deal with day to day life, keeping a home and family running on ever tightening finances and job cuts has no time to worry or think about such topics as Ufo/Alien Disclosure. Everyone here is different from your average joe whom has little or no interest in things we openly talk about and accept here and on similar forums and websites. Its an entirely different World. Average joe would not and possibly will never be ready for disclosure. BUT, one thing we all must deeply think about is..............disclosure levels. The first layer or level with officials openly declaring global visitation by craft and beings not of this World immediately opens up the next layer or level. The deeper we go the darker it gets. That's NEVER going to be allowed.

I fully agree :thumb:
How can we say that we are ready while we don't know what to be ready for? I think that even here we do not fully
comprehend the implications in its entirety. And I have proof from close relatives that they are not ready for even the
simplest level of it all. My mother told me she would be scared to death, it simply does not 'fit' in the paradigm of that
generation. My wife is at the level that she understands what I am talking about but simply does not accept it as a
potential reality like perhaps possible but still centuries away. My kids just shrug with an attitude of 'who cares'.

So who is really waiting for lying officials to open their mouths?

So, just let the bad guys win, eh? Personally, at this rate, humanity wiping itself out will just be a FAVOR to the universe. I personally feel we must have done real nasty things in past lives, to be punished with the lives we got now....living amongst a species who are either too scared or don't care. Like I said, I am starting to hate and despise my race.

Then again, the rest of the world seems fine with aliens, it's mainly America that is either scared or don't care.


Thank you, God....thank you soooooo very much for nothing.:(

[Agape]

It's all about getting informed ... adjusting to the idea that was once merely suppressed . Being a part of living Universe that talks to us ..
between the Stars .. with silent whispers .. sometimes it roars ..

getting accustomed to the idea that Life is a way of discovery

are we ready for tomorrow ? Are we ready for anything at all ?

I think, in this case .. mankind is being made ready . Our very dialogue here is part of the process and some of us feel being the reason, or their life events suggest there's a reason .. for more things to be revealed .

The Space talks to each other .. Star to Star .. and people to people .. it always did .. now some have bigger ears to listen , some not ,

we're coming together to understand ..to decipher the language .

It starts with sensing things forwards ... before they emerge .. maybe one day , we will make a global call to Space .. then wait , and nothing happens .

And then one day .. something big will happen .. to open all eyes and ears .. plenty of new conscious information will be received .. and guess what ..

can't tell you what will you do then ;) You're many so will make sense of it.

[Operator]

The phrase often used "The people are not ready" has justification I'm afraid, the average joe having to deal with day to day life, keeping a home and family running on ever tightening finances and job cuts has no time to worry or think about such topics as Ufo/Alien Disclosure. Everyone here is different from your average joe whom has little or no interest in things we openly talk about and accept here and on similar forums and websites. Its an entirely different World. Average joe would not and possibly will never be ready for disclosure. BUT, one thing we all must deeply think about is..............disclosure levels. The first layer or level with officials openly declaring global visitation by craft and beings not of this World immediately opens up the next layer or level. The deeper we go the darker it gets. That's NEVER going to be allowed.

I fully agree :thumb:
How can we say that we are ready while we don't know what to be ready for? I think that even here we do not fully
comprehend the implications in its entirety. And I have proof from close relatives that they are not ready for even the
simplest level of it all. My mother told me she would be scared to death, it simply does not 'fit' in the paradigm of that
generation. My wife is at the level that she understands what I am talking about but simply does not accept it as a
potential reality like perhaps possible but still centuries away. My kids just shrug with an attitude of 'who cares'.

So who is really waiting for lying officials to open their mouths?

So, just let the bad guys win, eh? Personally, at this rate, humanity wiping itself out will just be a FAVOR to the universe. I personally feel we must have done real nasty things in past lives, to be punished with the lives we got now....living amongst a species who are either too scared or don't care. Like I said, I am starting to hate and despise my race.

Then again, the rest of the world seems fine with aliens, it's mainly America that is either scared or don't care.


Thank you, God....thank you soooooo very much for nothing.:(

I don't recall saying that disclosure should not happen ... just that we're not so ready as we might think we are.
You and I did probably (re)incarnate to assist others to prepare or cope ... a noble task perhaps.

(Re)incarnating in this realm means playing in the heavy league ... you learn how it is not to have all kinds of
neat abilities readily available. Somehow you and me volunteered for it. Feel better already?

[The Castellan]

The phrase often used "The people are not ready" has justification I'm afraid, the average joe having to deal with day to day life, keeping a home and family running on ever tightening finances and job cuts has no time to worry or think about such topics as Ufo/Alien Disclosure. Everyone here is different from your average joe whom has little or no interest in things we openly talk about and accept here and on similar forums and websites. Its an entirely different World. Average joe would not and possibly will never be ready for disclosure. BUT, one thing we all must deeply think about is..............disclosure levels. The first layer or level with officials openly declaring global visitation by craft and beings not of this World immediately opens up the next layer or level. The deeper we go the darker it gets. That's NEVER going to be allowed.

I fully agree :thumb:
How can we say that we are ready while we don't know what to be ready for? I think that even here we do not fully
comprehend the implications in its entirety. And I have proof from close relatives that they are not ready for even the
simplest level of it all. My mother told me she would be scared to death, it simply does not 'fit' in the paradigm of that
generation. My wife is at the level that she understands what I am talking about but simply does not accept it as a
potential reality like perhaps possible but still centuries away. My kids just shrug with an attitude of 'who cares'.

So who is really waiting for lying officials to open their mouths?

So, just let the bad guys win, eh? Personally, at this rate, humanity wiping itself out will just be a FAVOR to the universe. I personally feel we must have done real nasty things in past lives, to be punished with the lives we got now....living amongst a species who are either too scared or don't care. Like I said, I am starting to hate and despise my race.

Then again, the rest of the world seems fine with aliens, it's mainly America that is either scared or don't care.


Thank you, God....thank you soooooo very much for nothing.:(

I don't recall saying that disclosure should not happen ... just that we're not so ready as we might think we are.
You and I did probably (re)incarnate to assist others to prepare or cope ... a noble task perhaps.

(Re)incarnating in this realm means playing in the heavy league ... you learn how it is not to have all kinds of
neat abilities readily available. Somehow you and me volunteered for it. Feel better already?

Now that you mention it.....NO!!!!!

I feel WORSE, now.

I myself am READY for disclosure and contact....now...not 10 years from now, not 50 yes from now, not 100 years from now....but NOW.

Fancy that, instead of living a REAL life, being a space explorer or some galactic hero, I get the honor of HAND HOLDING a species of STUPID APES, because "they can't handle it!" regarding that there's more to the universe than making money and scratching their asses.

And not having neat abilities.....hello.....IF you want me to assist others to cope, than neat abilities and powers are what I'd need...using reverse logic is not gonna help any. I mean even Christ, if he actually existed, had gnarly powers like walking on water, making wine out of water, bringing dead guys to life, curing sickness, and being able to come back from the realm of the dead. What use is there if one's abilities only involves having people point and laugh at you, and literally SPIT on you? Plus I have absolutely NO intention to martyr myself in some hopelessly impossible crusade....I am in no mood to eat an assassin's bullet or have some high school dropout in black military uniform slam the butt of his machine gun into my skull.


Trust me, I would NEVER volunteer for this. I want out, I want to travel the stars and visit REAL planets, planets where life if worth living, not the interstellar take of the east side projects and try to topple an an evil empire that's more than willing to kill anyone who so much as farts the wrong way. Plus that throw the whole free will thing out the window. I feel anything BUT free. And for the sake of everyone in the afterlife, especially the big guy upstairs, disclosure and contact BETTER happen when I am both ALIVE and YOUNG enough to enjoy it, otherwise I am gonna make the afterlife miserable. Have the recently deceased Ultimate Warrior power slam St. Peter or whomever is up there while I push my way through the lines and god's gonna a lot of explaining to do.


So, no, I do not feel better. I am ready, and if some folks panic because they are not alone in the universe, that's just too bad. I'd tell them, "So the emperor is not wearing any clothes, so just deal with it, ya goits!" And if someone wants to hang themselves, because they can't handle the fact that his or her 'safe' little world of caffe latte, reality TV and celeb gossip means not a damn thing anymore, I'll be more than happy to go and buy him or her a brand new rope. Let me get some popcorn and have the show begin, I say.

[eaglespirit]

Ready or Not...Here We Come!

If Our(most of us here) Higher Family show themselves in living color I promise you that all of the yous that are not ready will be so overwhelmed by a soft breeze of love and connection when the energy of the GOOD higher presence is right in front of us that they will be like children that have not seen their Loving Mother for years and were aching to re-connect.

That's why the BAD above and right here do NOT want this to happen and have done everything to push it away...we shall see... when we see and FEEL Our Higher Families, imho!!!

[The Castellan]

Ready or Not...Here We Come!

If Our(most of us here) Higher Family show themselves in living color I promise you that all of the yous that are not ready will be so overwhelmed by a soft breeze of love and connection when the energy of the GOOD higher presence is right in front of us that they will be like children that have not seen their Loving Mother for years and were aching to re-connect.

That's why the BAD above and right here do NOT want this to happen and have done everything to push it away...we shall see... when we see and FEEL Our Higher Families, imho!!!

Exactly. I'm ready for disclosure and contact. I have a 50+ year old bottle of scotch, just for that big event. And I want to be able to crack it open in my life time and be young enough to do so. Anyone not wanting disclosure and contact is either a power mad conspirator with chevrons on his or her shoulder (I officially declare Chevrons a symbol of evil, right up there with the Nazi's corrupted version of the swastika) or is a total smegpot that's off his or her rocker who I now know what to get them for Christmas.....a double lobotomy and 10 rolls of rubber wallpaper.

[birddog]

The benevolent ETs have been around for years. They just can't stay here for long because it hurts them to be here. It has to do with dimensions. However, they are so far advanced that they don't have to stay here. They can park elsewhere and be close and watch over us. We still have to do our part to help. This is after all, our planet.

[The Castellan]

The benevolent ETs have been around for years. They just can't stay here for long because it hurts them to be here. It has to do with dimensions. However, they are so far advanced that they don't have to stay here. They can park elsewhere and be close and watch over us. We still have to do our part to help. This is after all, our planet.

This planet's hurting me to be here. And if someone's 'watching over me', I say show themselves.

[Arak]

I recently realized something: I think that we dont "deserve" disclosure if we are not able to solve our own issues. Think about it from farmer's point of view: sure rabbits are cute, but would you open your greenhouse to them when you know that all they do is eat all salads and hop to next greenhouse. You see, we humans, we are quite vermins. Sure there are few spiritually advanced individuals who would respect the universe, but what would be their offspring like? Would they respect? Too risky imo.

And yes. SURE I would love to see full discover, I am not from this planet either.

[Wizard Of Ozark]

The benevolent ETs have been around for years. They just can't stay here for long because it hurts them to be here. It has to do with dimensions. However, they are so far advanced that they don't have to stay here. They can park elsewhere and be close and watch over us. We still have to do our part to help. This is after all, our planet.

This planet's hurting me to be here. And if someone's 'watching over me', I say show themselves.

Now. Now. Mind your ET-iquette. They are too advanced, benevolent and frail to be here like common scrubs like ourselves. Actually... who could blame them?

[Operator]

The benevolent ETs have been around for years. They just can't stay here for long because it hurts them to be here. It has to do with dimensions. However, they are so far advanced that they don't have to stay here. They can park elsewhere and be close and watch over us. We still have to do our part to help. This is after all, our planet.

This planet's hurting me to be here. And if someone's 'watching over me', I say show themselves.

Guess what, the benevolent ones are as disappointed as you are, gave up hope and left.
The nefarious ones enjoy your misery and will stay for a another while to benefit some more ... :p

[The Castellan]

I recently realized something: I think that we dont "deserve" disclosure if we are not able to solve our own issues. Think about it from farmer's point of view: sure rabbits are cute, but would you open your greenhouse to them when you know that all they do is eat all salads and hop to next greenhouse. You see, we humans, we are quite vermins. Sure there are few spiritually advanced individuals who would respect the universe, but what would be their offspring like? Would they respect? Too risky imo.

And yes. SURE I would love to see full discover, I am not from this planet either.

I am so tired of this "We gotta solve our own problems first!" smeg. First of all, how do you solve a problem when the problem are the guys in charge, and they have advanced technology, BIG GUNS, and an army of high school drop outs in black uniform, ready to live, and die, for their masters? All the 'light' and 'love' is no match for a knuckle dragger with a fully loaded gun....just look at Gandhi and Kennedy.

And I respect the universe, and I got NO INTENTION of having kids...why do I wanna do something is silly as that? I'm willing to take the risks, when it comes to exploring and evolving, risk IS the business. As I said, why should the good folks be punished and made to suffer with the jerk offs causing the problems? I find that policy HIGHLY questionable.


Guess what, the benevolent ones are as disappointed as you are, gave up hope and left.
The nefarious ones enjoy your misery and will stay for a another while to benefit some more

All the MORE reason for me to get off this miserable lump of rock.

[Arak]

Dear Castellan, I do understand your point of view, but that being said I think that you fail to see the big picture. It is not about you, it is not about me, it is not about Obama or whoever. We are too still agressive and primitive animals. Listen your own words, look around - do you really think we could live in peace with alien races. I think we would not. We would try to conquer, enslave and steal natural resources in the name of God/democracy/greed/desire/obsession or whatever.

So why wont they just pick you up? Read your words, study your heart and explore your mind and I am pretty sure you find the reason. And if you do, then you will accept the life as it is. Edit: sorry, not only the life but also their decission.

[The Castellan]

Dear Castellan, I do understand your point of view, but that being said I think that you fail to see the big picture. It is not about you, it is not about me, it is not about Obama or whoever. We are too still agressive and primitive animals. Listen your own words, look around - do you really think we could live in peace with alien races. I think we would not. We would try to conquer, enslave and steal natural resources in the name of God/democracy/greed/desire/obsession or whatever.

So why wont they just pick you up? Read your words, study your heart and explore your mind and I am pretty sure you find the reason. And if you do, then you will accept the life as it is. Edit: sorry, not only the life but also their decission.

First of all I am NOT interested in "the big picture", I don't give a smeg about some grand scheme or 'destiny' that sounds like a bad star wars spoof. And correct me if I am wrong...I don't recall conquering anyone, or enslaving them, and the only I've stolen was 2nd base. Plus I don't think YOU, your neighbors, friends or loved ones doing the same. So I say we are ready to live in peace with aliens. See, we all know 1% rules the world, it's that one percent doing the horrible things. And I'd like to see them TRY to conquer an alien species with a million years ahead of us, hell, I'd love to see them take on a race merely 1,000 years ahead of us....it will be mere comedy at best.

And no, this so-called life of ours, breaking our balls and backs, just to keep a roof on our heads and food in our bellies is NOT what I call a life, that's just surviving a miserable existence, and call me crazy, I prefer something more, MUCH more, than keeping the economy going.

And given that ancient cultures spoke of being visited by men from the stars, and that those same men from the stars said they promise to return in the future....and I trust more what an advanced ancient culture says than what some pimply faced nerd, or some baboon in a military dress uniform has to say.

So, forgive me if I WILL NOT merely accept the fact that I have to be punished for the actions taken by a gang of militant monkeys, most of which have been dead for years, and be content being an innocent prisoner on this Alcatraz of a planet.
I will do whatever it takes to get off this rock and live the lives I, and everyone else, are SUPPOSED to be living by now. See, one is not responsible for the world one is born into, double that when the troubles of the world are caused by someone(s) else and are long dead....let their sins find their own punishment in the afterlife.....one is responsible for the world one leaves behind when they are gone. I am not gonna take the rap for spooge sucking dipsticks like Ike Eisenhower, Jay Edgar Hoover, Adolf Hitler, Napoleon, Marshall Applewhite, The Rockefellers and so on....I have nothing to do with them, nor am I going to be held accountable for their crimes.

I will find a way to contact the aliens. Be it undergoing training by the 'hated' Dr. Steven Greer, me creating a crop circle of my own, making a stone circle, or my own Nazca lines with my bare hands if need to. I WILL meet the aliens, leave the Earth (and never come back), go and see REAL worlds, meet amazing life forms and really start LIVING......or DIE trying. And if I do die and never see the aliens, I won't know whom I'll despise more, the aliens for having let me down (like the earth has so far), or the human race. Should THAT happen, I'll ask God to grant me at least the chance to watch, and LAUGH, as mankind exterminates himself, or even better, one of the bad alien races getting rid of humanity, and doing the whole universe a favor by making home sapiens, aka "The STUPID apes" extinct. This is one soul who's had it with 'destiny', 'the grand scheme', and 'big pictures'.

See, you might love life on earth and human life, but not me. And I am sure I am not the only one who thinks so....hell, I seen so many posts on places like face book and twitter, of people saying, "The universe will be better off once mankind's dead" or "The earth was probably a pretty nice place to live until man set foot on it!" or "If ET's look for intelligent life, they won't find it here!"

I WILL not merely accept settling for a useless, pointless, not to mention BORING life being a good, behaved little tax payer and shopper......while stuff, like the face of Mars, and Iapetus, (I know that what I need and my answers lie out there, not here, folks....try to understand that) being sooooo close, yet sooo far away.....another carrot being dangled by the bad guys. And call me crazy, this is one time the cowboy in the white hat finally wins and beats mr. blackhat in real life, not the other way around. And as I said, man will never solve the problems of the world the ones causing the problems have the big guns and brain dead flunkies backing them....we, regular people, have NOTHING. Love alone won't stop a bullet from splattering your brains amongst the pavement.

[kemo]

This business about solving our own issues sounds nice, but to me is meaningless. The nature of human beings is pretty much what it always was. Left to ourselves we just stew in our own juices. And also I think it's pxxxxxg in the wind because for one thing I don't think we have time. I agree it's a mess. I don't know about chemtrails, mind control etc but I do know we are under total surveillance, and are dumbed down by mass media. Bread and circuses you might say. People should take to the streets but most don't and even if they do are likely to finish up with a new set of controllers. So I admire the optimism of sorting out our own mess, but the oil companies, big pharma etc and TPTB are not going to relinquish control, so I think the optimism is misplaced.

Our biggest problem in getting off planet and seeing what is out there is that we don't have any access to the technology. You know there's plenty of opinion, channellings etc bandied about as to what ET is visiting us for, what they want etc but very little hard information. All this good alien bad alien stuff is mostly just conjecture. It seems to me to be a simple proposition that sooner or later an intelligent species will obtain the technology for FTL travel, whether through recovered craft or under their own steam. Mainstream science can't be that far off accepting FTL travel as a possibilty, let alone what what they've got in these black ops programmes. However, once a species has the technology they sure as hell will use it. They will not be sitting around debating whether they are ready or not or whether they should clear up their own mess etc because having the technology would gain its own momentum through curiosity, greed perhaps, necessity maybe.

I suspect that we must be unique in that we may have the technology but we are not allowed to know about it. Otherwise I'd probably be booking my Virgin Travel ticket to Zeta Reticuli for Easter. If as many believe ETs are not all benign then how the hell did they get off-planet then? It's quite prosaic really. They developed the means, built the ship, got into it, turned the ignition and - whoosh here they are with a hearty appetite to whet with a few Earth species titbits. I don't think any navel gazing is required.

What we want and have a right to know is what TPTB know and then we can make intelligent judgements about the possibilities of FTL travel, ET contacts etc. Some of those technologies would also no doubt help us 'sort our own mess' or some of it at any rate. But I don't see why that precludes our taking our first steps towards contact. It doesn't have to be one or the other, and you know what they say there's nothing like interstellar travel for broadening the mind - maybe one would help the other.

One very significant development might be zero-point energy. There's a very good documentary on this in the free energy etc forum. If that became a reality - and I can't see how they can keep a lid on this much longer - people are already putting generators into production - that would transform - well, you name it. If as is often supposed a major reason for keeping UFOs and ETs secret is because of the oil industry, then once we shed reliance on fossil fuels there is less reason to keep the technology secret, so who knows maybe we will have disclosure.That's my bit of wishful thinking for the day.

[bogeyman]

Disclosure, i.e. Official statement confirming these visitors of ours from the US, isn't coming. The nature of some of the encounters between the military and unknown objects are deemed extremely sensitive, many people are not capable of dealing with this, they are not mentality and social capable simple as that, if ALL the information was brought forth. I am aware of certain information that involves clashes between unknown objects and aircraft in which the aircraft was "blown apart" by a beam of light from a unknown object. There isn't any defence against these objects and that fact can cause some to panic.

It begs the question concerning the quality of the information forthcoming from individuals who claim there is a disclosure project. A disinformation disclosure project or more a misinformation disclosure project, some elements of truth to make you believe the disinformation which is buried in the information.

[Agape]

De-Castellan ... due to common cuteness of people and ETs, I always presumed that the resulting relationship between people and ET is also bound to be cute .

When I say 'cute' I mean generally good despite all those misunderstandings naturally coming to the equation , fears and uncertainties and hurts we unwillingly cause and stepping on each other toes and not speaking in the proper american accent and what else you except . Expect . ;)

As a matter of fact ..this is the only type of relationship I'm able to maintain and do with human entities known to me ..
we do run to misunderstandings , wrong emotions and step on each other toes ..nevertheless .. we still remain good and honest to each other .
Loving and caring .

But there seems to be a serious danger ... and the danger is intriguingly attached to where you'd expect it the least ,
places that call for Disclosure , places where an ET would expect to meet with open minds and hearts, like the SETI, like the NASA , like other places/people/institutions of such calibre .

We've tried to speak to couple of good people already ... and they all claim they are not ready . It's the feeling . The strangeness . The fear that if this was true , it would be too big and too difficult to do ( no it would not ) , that it would cost trillions of some $$ ( no it would not ) and that there's something inherently dangerous about an ET .

Further on and right from the start they all want warrantees , stamps from government , peer reviewed papers , someone else to start the whole chain reaction but 'please, please , please ... not us, not me .. we are not the nuts here and we need to feed our families ' .

Disclosure sites and forums are FULL ( I mean full ) of stories of alien contact and abductions , those can go to millions , are hardly explainable , they keep multiplying and are not essentially .. really ..very cute .
I mean most of them sound horrid, threatening and wrong . It's hard to face them all realistically , for any one genuine individual, for long time .

...

With the above and more in the core of the trouble ...is what we knew and could safely presume before this all 'truth adventure' started ( for me personally ) ,
there are about two ways to navigate safely . One is called 'stay put' and the other is called 'make the people you talk to sign NDA ( non disclosure agreement )' . ;)

There are too many subtle dangers coming through any potential and straight confrontations between ET & Humans .. too many to name and if you can understand the benevolent nature of life and intelligence you can also appreciate all the cautions and why we do not want to cause or take harms .

I don't want to summarise my journey through this human world, quite yet ... but it's also fairly possible that some of us were used as litmus papers .. at this time period , not fake ones but of real value ,
to see what kind of discernment is currently possible to expect from human race .
If real values were not used , it would be impossible to evaluate real state of matters.

While at the start I always hoped this will be clear win-win situation ,

I'm afraid I see it differently now.

My hopes and ideals about mankind were probably bit too high . And there's also lots of moral inflation and devolution going on here, periodically .. this is temporary perhaps and will have to be reset ..

and I'm not giving up on my mission, not yet , but I'm trying to make myself ready for the fact that you ( mankind ) are not really ready for me , the ET .

It's sort of personal experience .. ( or lack of ..) , day by day .. for too many days and years to count now . It does not change me to being bad , bloodthirsty, cunning, pervert , liar and whatever whoever would like to see me change to ..
though there are times I become bitter and sarcastic and feel very ( very ) alone here and want to terminate my existence at switch of button,
and most of all .. want to go home .

It's the border where things stop feeling really cute ( good ) and they could become seriously hurtful to our character .. and nature .. and so also lose their true meaning when I think,
may be time for turn about and recede from this adventurous path to discovery of mankind ..

that's my take . I feel there's still some time.. couple of years of perhaps .. when you could prove yourself otherwise ( and me too ) but the chances are slim.

The problem is .. that when it comes to critical thinking and ability to evaluate realistic situations ( similarly to the disappearance of MA370 ) , people are thinking slowly .
Some things.. no matter how close they are to you turn obvious after couple of years, decades .. or centuries . Some are lost in time forever .



:pray:

[kemo]

Who says people are not capable of dealing with this when most people now accept the reality of ETs. Besides which I don't believe that governments do have a right to keep secrets. Governments should be answerable to the people and if there is a threat then we need to be told the truth about that too. If the truth must be kept secret is that forever then because you see I don't think that is conceivable either? I don't suppose for one moment that those ETs buzzing around out there are doing so without their own populations being aware of it. The development of interstellar travel must go hand in hand with contact with other species and even if there were no kind of federation there must certainly be an awareness of other species if only in terms of who to deal with and who to avoid. The technology for FTL travel is almost in the public domain, and it seems truly bizzarre that no-one like Branson for example has set up a project to build it. David Adair claimed to have built some sort of craft capable of FTL travel so it must be just a matter of time. Keshe claims to have built such a craft doesn't he. I can imagine why governments want to keep us in the dark because apart from the vested interests if we became citizens of the cosmos then Earth governments become somewhat irrelevant other than keeping the streets clean. You ain't gonna keep us down on the farm after we've seen Alhpa Centauri. Why, that Castellan would be orft like a bat out of hell. I just want to explore, see the sights.

[Agape]

Who says people are not capable of dealing with this when most people now accept the reality of ETs. Besides which I don't believe that governments do have a right to keep secrets.

I say Kemo, I say . Unlike most of you .. I'm not engaging in hypothetical debate , guess most of you miss it and why am I on this forum..
not talking in riddles ,

it's a reality situation . They repeat they are not ready , for too many various reasons. I am not saying they're true to themselves or right .

Just saying how it works .


:angel:

[araucaria]

Dear Castellan, I do understand your point of view, but that being said I think that you fail to see the big picture. It is not about you, it is not about me, it is not about Obama or whoever. We are too still agressive and primitive animals. Listen your own words, look around - do you really think we could live in peace with alien races. I think we would not. We would try to conquer, enslave and steal natural resources in the name of God/democracy/greed/desire/obsession or whatever.

So why wont they just pick you up? Read your words, study your heart and explore your mind and I am pretty sure you find the reason. And if you do, then you will accept the life as it is. Edit: sorry, not only the life but also their decission.

First of all I am NOT interested in "the big picture", I don't give a smeg about some grand scheme or 'destiny' that sounds like a bad star wars spoof. And correct me if I am wrong...I don't recall conquering anyone, or enslaving them, and the only I've stolen was 2nd base. Plus I don't think YOU, your neighbors, friends or loved ones doing the same. So I say we are ready to live in peace with aliens. See, we all know 1% rules the world, it's that one percent doing the horrible things. And I'd like to see them TRY to conquer an alien species with a million years ahead of us, hell, I'd love to see them take on a race merely 1,000 years ahead of us....it will be mere comedy at best.

And no, this so-called life of ours, breaking our balls and backs, just to keep a roof on our heads and food in our bellies is NOT what I call a life, that's just surviving a miserable existence, and call me crazy, I prefer something more, MUCH more, than keeping the economy going.

And given that ancient cultures spoke of being visited by men from the stars, and that those same men from the stars said they promise to return in the future....and I trust more what an advanced ancient culture says than what some pimply faced nerd, or some baboon in a military dress uniform has to say.

So, forgive me if I WILL NOT merely accept the fact that I have to be punished for the actions taken by a gang of militant monkeys, most of which have been dead for years, and be content being an innocent prisoner on this Alcatraz of a planet.
I will do whatever it takes to get off this rock and live the lives I, and everyone else, are SUPPOSED to be living by now. See, one is not responsible for the world one is born into, double that when the troubles of the world are caused by someone(s) else and are long dead....let their sins find their own punishment in the afterlife.....one is responsible for the world one leaves behind when they are gone. I am not gonna take the rap for spooge sucking dipsticks like Ike Eisenhower, Jay Edgar Hoover, Adolf Hitler, Napoleon, Marshall Applewhite, The Rockefellers and so on....I have nothing to do with them, nor am I going to be held accountable for their crimes.

I will find a way to contact the aliens. Be it undergoing training by the 'hated' Dr. Steven Greer, me creating a crop circle of my own, making a stone circle, or my own Nazca lines with my bare hands if need to. I WILL meet the aliens, leave the Earth (and never come back), go and see REAL worlds, meet amazing life forms and really start LIVING......or DIE trying. And if I do die and never see the aliens, I won't know whom I'll despise more, the aliens for having let me down (like the earth has so far), or the human race. Should THAT happen, I'll ask God to grant me at least the chance to watch, and LAUGH, as mankind exterminates himself, or even better, one of the bad alien races getting rid of humanity, and doing the whole universe a favor by making home sapiens, aka "The STUPID apes" extinct. This is one soul who's had it with 'destiny', 'the grand scheme', and 'big pictures'.

See, you might love life on earth and human life, but not me. And I am sure I am not the only one who thinks so....hell, I seen so many posts on places like face book and twitter, of people saying, "The universe will be better off once mankind's dead" or "The earth was probably a pretty nice place to live until man set foot on it!" or "If ET's look for intelligent life, they won't find it here!"

I WILL not merely accept settling for a useless, pointless, not to mention BORING life being a good, behaved little tax payer and shopper......while stuff, like the face of Mars, and Iapetus, (I know that what I need and my answers lie out there, not here, folks....try to understand that) being sooooo close, yet sooo far away.....another carrot being dangled by the bad guys. And call me crazy, this is one time the cowboy in the white hat finally wins and beats mr. blackhat in real life, not the other way around. And as I said, man will never solve the problems of the world the ones causing the problems have the big guns and brain dead flunkies backing them....we, regular people, have NOTHING. Love alone won't stop a bullet from splattering your brains amongst the pavement.
Well, The Castellan, you feel totally unconnected to and unresponsible for everything and everyone on ‘this miserable lump of rock’. You feel like a pet that landed in the wrong household. If there were more people that feel that way – and of course there are quite a few – that would go a long way to explaining how things are so messed up. To take my analogy further, the neighbourhood would be crawling with stray cats and dogs looking for home and not getting fed, fighting with each other and sometimes getting run over. You get my drift.

What if your task on this beautiful planet was to take responsibility for everything, settle down a bit, accept hospitality from the 'wrong' people and discover that maybe things aren’t so bad after all? Your favourite enemies wouldn’t be able to pick a fight with you any more and might calm down as well. And your ET friends might feel the place safe enough to make a social call.

When you start by feeling responsible, you discover you are in fact responsible, just as you are also responsible, and credited for, improving the situation when this happens, as it does.

[kemo]

Maybe Agape, but your experience is what it is. I can't be given the truth vicariously which is why I hardly ever give anyone personal advice because my experience is not their experience and they can't learn from that. I've not read enough of your posts to comment on how your experience fits with the 'big picture', and also maybe the big picture is so complex that its beyond our ken. However I do know that the human race can't be nannied and mollicoddled into maturity. In order to grow we need to know. Omelettes & eggs?

[Agape]

Maybe Agape, but your experience is what it is. I can't be given the truth vicariously which is why I hardly ever give anyone personal advice because my experience is not their experience and they can't learn from that. I've not read enough of your posts to comment on how your experience fits with the 'big picture', and also maybe the big picture is so complex that its beyond our ken. However I do know that the human race can't be nannied and mollicoddled into maturity. In order to grow we need to know. Omelettes & eggs?

I guess you did not but I hate to repeat myself ad nauseam .. we've offered report and data to the forum ( in 2010 , it can be found at the ET Origins of Mankind - Witness board ) coupled with materials like interviews that were added in following years ,
now curiously enough .. though the Witness board is supposedly visible to members almost no one goes there anymore .

While a forum like this or any other forum has limited capacity ( though, we like to think in limitless ways .. ;) ) to see or proceed what you call 'the big picture' ,

we've tried to offer the report and possible data, at face value .. to couple of scientific institutions around the globe .. and their response .. in large , is pending .

If you want to know .. it's my pleasure to introduce you to the core value of the situation and 'big picture' . But I've been let waiting and observing these 'fine chatters' who claim to call for truth and 'we want to know' ,
on one page and then you don't see them anymore . Or they are so full of skepticism , negativism and doubts that no matter what they say , the values discussed here are so relative and relativistic that answering to them is like any other of your general chats .

I use my best senses here , with any good replies as you do perhaps and dare to think, there's nothing to be done here, you're all so very tired as I am .
You want to read your news, exchange few words with friends at the end of the day , and go to sleep .

Maybe ? Maybe . Maybe not ? I am losing the overview here so often ...because it's turning years from where we started .. members have changed .. forum affairs came and went ...
we all have learned something .






:)

[Peace of Mind]

“Just relax and enjoy the SHOW, its a 'Spiritual' thing you see...

I know some of you will be asking - How does he Know..?

I will 'Answer' that right hear and now - "I just Do" & that is MHO...”

:jaw:

This thread is over a year old and people are still waiting around……..smh.
This is just another example of how so many of us are trained to “sit back, relax and enjoy the show”. Just imagine if they decided to put that energy in to something useful instead of waiting for "something" to do those useful things for them.

I want to know exactly what does “SOON” means to some people here, is it a day from now, weeks, months, years….?

And, what exactly are we viewing? I still don’t see E.T., I just see people heavily tuned in listening to tales with their heads still in the clouds.

I’m even tempted enough to go deeper into the archives to bring up more similar topics, but this example should suffice for now. Besides, much of the attachments in those earlier threads have their links removed, which I’m finding odd, to say the least. Good lawd, I hope this doesn’t continue to drag out for a few more years before the rest of us become wise enough to see what’s happening here.

Peace

[bogeyman]

Disclosure, "as gentle as the rain" as someone put it.

[araucaria]

Disclosure, "as gentle as the rain" as someone put it.
I don't think so. Another analogy that doesn't work is, I've finished my main course, where's my dessert?

Here's one that might fit the bill a little better. To go anywhere, we need a pilot's licence. We are still reading chapter one of the manual that tells us that the craft is not going anywhere except guided with the mind. Mind control. We all confirming right here and now that collectively, no we are not ready. We have nothing like that mental self-control. It would be deadly if we could take off as we are. But that is not possible.

[pabranno]

Does it really matter?
Perhaps worrying about what when who why how disclosure takes place serves to distract us from where our energies and thoughts SHOULD be flowing.
THEY are the architects of the secrecy, not our shadow goverment. Physical disclosure to the world is entirely up to them.
Inner "disclosure" in our spirits: now THERE's a good use our energy/thought....
Pamela

[birddog]

"Our biggest problem in getting off planet and seeing what is out there is that we don't have any access to the technology."
Kemo and Castellen, I will tell you a 'bedtime story'. This will be very short. Someone by the name of Mary noticed that the
technology on Earth was very diverse, and nothing had really advanced very much that had been seen in the general population for about 50 or so years. It seemed like technology had stalled, so, she asked her friends at the Galactic Confederation of Planets if she could have some technology for Earth, because she wanted them to participate in the Galactic community and advance to one day join the Confederation, a galactic community of many races of beings and many worlds, and one of the largest. She was told yes, she could have technology, to be given at a later date. She was not told what or when. The "But" factor was that she had to oversee this technology, to make sure it was not abused. ( They mean used for abuse, or to abuse others) She agreed. Several months later, she had a vision of a giant starship over the desert in the US.
She was contacted by the Confederation and asked..Where shall we land this...(technology that you asked for?). She asked the others in the agency who were with her....They were afraid and they would not answer. This starship was probably the biggest thing they had ever seen. The confederation waited for a month for their answer. Mary tried and kept asking them, but
they would not talk to her. They were afraid of an invasion. Finally, the confederation took the starship home. Mary hopes to one day have the chance to get that or another starship for Earth. The technology would be shared with the world, and the ship would benefit the whole world, but would be docked in the USA mainland. It would not be under agency control. Mary was told that for purposes of securing technology to Earth, that she would be the Ambassador from the Galactic Confederation of Planets. It was her responsibility to oversee this technology on Earth. If the technology was abused, not only could we lose that technology, we might lose the chance to obtain any more, and it could delay our chances of acceptance into the Confederation as member. This story is 'to be continued' one day.

[birddog]

Operator, Those are ET's words, "We can't stay here long because it hurts us to be here.", not mine.

[The Castellan]

Tell "Mary" to get her bitch ass in gear and get that spaceship over here. To all you guys who say we gotta solve our own problems.....the problem is the military industrial complex. THEY have the advanced technology, I heard that they have space craft that can get you to the moon, mars, etc in MINUTES....and not months or years....and whatever is powering those ships, probably a zero point energy device, would be rather powerful...and I would not be surprised if that was true.

Also, the Military Industrial Complex will not simply step down from their monopoly of technology willingly, they will fight until the last one of them is dead before they give up their power. And their armies of high school, drop out flunkies in black uniform will serve and die at their command, under the false idea of "patriotism" (the Nazi youth groups were started for the same reasons) will, without question, open fire on unarmed civilians if ordered to. I remember the LA riots, and the national guard there, from what I seen of them, would no only do a bayonet charge on unarmed civilians if ordered to, but also ENJOY it as well....same for the flunkies in black ops uniform now. Plus they got satellite cameras that can find a penny

What do WE have? Mineral Slime, filthy black rocks, nuclear power (nuclear power is just an 1800's steam engine, but with a highly toxic heat source), pathetic chemical rockets....which are pretty much just giant fire crackers, and our cell phone/smart phone technology....it's still old, ancient principles from decades ago, just that you can play angry birds on them. We have jack squat, folks. It's like stone age man with a club or a spear trying take on John Rambo with a machine gun in a one on one fight......ole' Fred Flintone's a goner in that one, folks.

The bad guys are not simply going come out with their hands up and step down out of a sense of fair play. Even Kennedy, a president, tried to take them on, and perished. They won't hesitate about us, either. So, to all you who think we chimpanzees can take on the Proverbial Emperor Palpatine.....be my guest, and try.....and remember me when that 20 year old flunky's slamming his rifle butt into your skull, while your best friend's taking half a magazine's worth of slugs in his or her gut.

So, in conclusion, the chances are regular people taking down the evil empire that is the military industrial complex is even less than me going out on the street, asking a random person to empty their pocket for coins, and the coins all dated the same year.


What if your task on this beautiful planet was to take responsibility for everything, settle down a bit, accept hospitality from the 'wrong' people and discover that maybe things aren’t so bad after all? Your favourite enemies wouldn’t be able to pick a fight with you any more and might calm down as well. And your ET friends might feel the place safe enough to make a social call.

I am NOT going to take the responsibility for the crimes of what a bunch of modern day Napoleons, most of whom are probably dead, started 70+ years ago. And I have no plans of 'settling' down and putting up my white picket fence. And enemies will always find a way to pick a fight with whomever. I have no desire to start hanging with yuppies, divas and flunkies who's IQ's are only surpassed by their shoe sizes. And they started the hostility, they took the proverbial glove and smacked me in the face with it, you don't make friends with those that want to f*ck you up, that's like trusting Michael Jackson or a Catholic priest to baby sit you kids.

I want a little more than a 'social call', I want to get a ride off this world.


And given how just today, I saw a license plate that said "BLU 1111" (Blue being the nickname for the blueskinned, white haired alien I've seen in several dreams), it's gotta mean something as well.


So, I say let disclosure happen, as well as direct contact, and let the chips fall where they may.

[araucaria]

I am NOT going to take the responsibility
Thank you for your clarity.

It looks like either you or me is on the wrong forum.

[Shezbeth]

So, I say let disclosure happen, as well as direct contact, and let the chips fall where they may.

I agree 100% with this statement. The rest I'm not so sure about.

You did an excellent job of summarizing many of the strengths and resources the controllers have at their disposal, and if things are/were allowed to progress along the lines you describe I agree that the outcome would be as you predicted.

Additionally, I agree with many of the rhetorical assessments you make as far as what the controllers' opposition has at their disposal.

And, I agree that success for the controllers sits well within the threshold of possibility. The emperor did win Vs. the republic, the jedi, etc. after all,...

... but only for about 20 years. I'll come back to this point in a moment.

In chess there are many types of games. Some games go quickly, others are dragged out almost incessantly. Sometimes a person thinks they will lose and end up winning, and the inverse is true as well. Sometimes the game is decided before the players make their initial moves.

The biggest factor (arguably) is not the number of pieces or their starting position, but the strategy utilized; that's how one snatches victory from the jaws of defeat after all.

The thing about the Star Wars metaphor is that there is a millennium of context to be applied. The emperor inherited the reins of a dynasty (not of blood) that began its machinations a thousand years before his appearance on the scene. And, if you get really deep with it, the emperor himself was a traitor to his own cause; I'll be happy to detail this if you like.

In any case, you give the controllers too much credit. Oh, they're meticulous chess players to be sure, but what about those high school dropouts you mention? What about all the ridiculous and superfluous bureaucrats, only capable of looking after their own skin (if even that)? Are you saying there isn't a single weak link in their entire arsenal?

Back to Star Wars. So the Sith started their fantastic chess game a thousand years prior to Palpatine, and it took the entirety of that period to conclude the game. Several millenia, incredible resources invested, a virtually flawless game by all indications, and only a couple decades to show for it.

Being victim of the controllers may be inevitable, but ATM there's no way of knowing. One thing though, getting exasperated on an internet forum is not likely to encourage ETs to offer you a ride. Just sayin'. :smokin:

[kemo]

In terms of moral philosophy there is nothing easier or less significant than for example former colonial powers apologising to their former colonies for, centuries ago, having colonised them; nothing more futile than expressing regret for the actions of our ancestors that were then regarded as normal but which would now be condemned. Slavery for example - though it carries on of course in the sense of wage slavery or in the very real sense of, say, the immigrant workers in Quatar. I certainly don't take responsibility either for events which have taken place in my lifetime and which I had no power to control. I don't have responsibility for example for Britain's part in the Iraq war. I didn't support it and many of us marched against it. But Mr Blair decided to do it anyway. I don't say we should forget the past and some things are too horrible to be forgotten, but taking personal responsibility for them is another matter. For what reason? Because we are all human beings? That's about as rational as my accepting responsibility for Anders Breivik's killings because we both have blonde hair (or what's left of it in my case). Have to agree with TC on that point - and various others.

[kemo]

Btw - Agape, now that I look back I find that I did read at least the Kerry Cassidy interview with you but hadn't connected the two. If I'm honest I'd say I mentally filed it away under 'interesting - don't know what to make of'. That's probably where it still sits, to some extent, though I have read most of your recent posts very carefully, and will continue to do so. But as you recognise there are many, many experiencers with different stories to tell. For example the Thianooba Prophecy and the Dutch guy who fished a alien from planet Iarga from the sea and was rewarded by being shown visions of events in our history (maybe connected with Akashic records) as well as planet Iarga itself. The TP was apparently received telepathically and written down word for word. There are also other members of PA who have had ET contact. Put simply: you don't all seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet and I'm not in a position to discern whose information is valid and whose isn't. That's not quite what I mean since many levels may exist. Personally I try to stay grounded as far as possible in terms of what it is possible for me to know and I try not to form any view of what ETs may be like as we can perceive them, because, not having had any such experience, it is not possible for me to know this. I believe that we have many ET visitors because we now know that there are billions of planets in this galaxy alone which could harbour life and it seems reasonable to presume that some of the more advanced species have FTL vehicles which is supported by reported crash retrievals and by witnesses of various sorts. At any rate while these matters are debatable, there is some evidence. I have thought that some posts do seem to be riddles or enigmatic at least, but less so on reading more carefully. But I am not able to accept that any poster has a monopoly of wisdom on ET matters because I simply can't. I have no way of knowing. It must seem sometimes, Agape, that you are casting 'pearls before swine' but don't stop doing it!

[MorningFox]

I never understand why people choose to make sensationalist statements like the title of this thread based on nothing but personal opinion.

This is a great forum full of lots of brilliant and helpful information, so naturally when I see a thread like this I assume the statement may be based on even a single shred of information, however I soon realise my time has been wasted when it's nothing but random gibberish.

I'm all for discussing our opinions on things but please keep the 'THIS IS HAPPENING' statements to yourself.

[Operator]

I never understand why people choose to make sensationalist statements like the title of this thread based on nothing but personal opinion.

While people are discussing topics here like creation by thought it might encourage others into "Wishful Thinking" :rofl:

[Agape]

Btw - Agape, now that I look back I find that I did read at least the Kerry Cassidy interview with you but hadn't connected the two. If I'm honest I'd say I mentally filed it away under 'interesting - don't know what to make of'. That's probably where it still sits, to some extent, though I have read most of your recent posts very carefully, and will continue to do so. But as you recognise there are many, many experiencers with different stories to tell. For example the Thianooba Prophecy and the Dutch guy who fished a alien from planet Iarga from the sea and was rewarded by being shown visions of events in our history (maybe connected with Akashic records) as well as planet Iarga itself. The TP was apparently received telepathically and written down word for word. There are also other members of PA who have had ET contact. Put simply: you don't all seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet and I'm not in a position to discern whose information is valid and whose isn't. That's not quite what I mean since many levels may exist. Personally I try to stay grounded as far as possible in terms of what it is possible for me to know and I try not to form any view of what ETs may be like as we can perceive them, because, not having had any such experience, it is not possible for me to know this. I believe that we have many ET visitors because we now know that there are billions of planets in this galaxy alone which could harbour life and it seems reasonable to presume that some of the more advanced species have FTL vehicles which is supported by reported crash retrievals and by witnesses of various sorts. At any rate while these matters are debatable, there is some evidence. I have thought that some posts do seem to be riddles or enigmatic at least, but less so on reading more carefully. But I am not able to accept that any poster has a monopoly of wisdom on ET matters because I simply can't. I have no way of knowing. It must seem sometimes, Agape, that you are casting 'pearls before swine' but don't stop doing it!


Hi Kemo. Yes I understand and can appreciate that part of it completely , there are many different 'stories' .
Mine happened to be one of the 'bigger topics' ( not by popularisation or fame but by the nature of information encountered and direct enfolding of events that relate to the remote origin of mankind on earth ) but there's where we ( Barry as principal researcher and me as witness ) stress the need of scientific investigation .

It was a good manner in older days not to expose witnesses to other peoples 'stories' before they've got heard, recorded in full and could explain their case in full ,

even if not to influence them and confuse evidence .

In my early hope for finding 'true researchers' ..this dates back to 2005/2006 when I finally returned to Europe from India and got access to computer/internet there was a mixture of stories and people already available that time ..though far less materials than now .. and it was not easy to find someone - even among the so called researchers , with clear insight and ability to see outside preconceived boxes, including boxes available in so called 'ufology' such as 'abductions' or 'contactees' or 'experiencers' , no matter what you coin it , I do not fall to either box exactly .
And for that alone , it was not easy ..and is not easy to this day .

In straight, logical manner again, I never planned doing public release or interviews of the data before they could have been investigated on reality grounds,
confronted with people of scientific demeanour and credits .

My case is much less 'fantastic' than those others you read and hear about , since I've seen things from 'both sides of the dimensional mirror' , and the link between us/our ET ancestors to us/human creatures , in real time record - not by being told 'story' by some aliens .

And as I've repeated many times .. the proofs are in me , together with details of the events and data .. but believe me or not, it's being incredibly difficult to get to the reality point where full debriefing and some kind of tests would be done , and full recording .

Public 'disclosure' may be entertaining for masses but by its own nature, requires form and simplicity . I've not asked to be exposed to media or published . But finding people to investigate without being published somewhere is not easy ,
as Araucaria pointed out at one of the recent posts in Dr Greers thread .


I'm not surprised a lot by public reactions, human reactions maybe but I have to say .. I'm also confused , at heart of events that aren't common part of conscious human continuum, very difficult to share with any 'common joe' , my former friends , mum or others . Even if they tolerate and love me, it's far beyond their ability to connect to this .

Thanks for empathy

:angel:

[birddog]

Arak, you wrote this.....

("do you really think we could live in peace with alien races. I think we would not." ) Would it make you happier to know that aliens or other world beings live and work together in peace and harmony in space. Remember, they are more evolved for the most part and from more advanced worlds. Earth is considered a baby planet, not evolved, and not advanced as it should be,
but for greed of some of those who live here. What is happening now, today and tomorrow, is because of the greed and the lust for power. It will take a lot of work by all of us, but the light will overcome the darkness. Keep that always in the back of your mind even on the 'darkest of days'. The road ahead is more than rocky.
very wealthy humans.

[birddog]

There needs to be a balance of power between the light and the dark sides. For now, the dark side on Earth has all of the advanced technology, planes, weapons, stealth technology, ect. But the light has allies with far greater technology and knowledge.

[Arak]

Arak, you wrote this.....

("do you really think we could live in peace with alien races. I think we would not." ) Would it make you happier to know that aliens or other world beings live and work together in peace and harmony in space. Remember, they are more evolved for the most part and from more advanced worlds. Earth is considered a baby planet, not evolved, and not advanced as it should be,
but for greed of some of those who live here. What is happening now, today and tomorrow, is because of the greed and the lust for power. It will take a lot of work by all of us, but the light will overcome the darkness. Keep that always in the back of your mind even on the 'darkest of days'. The road ahead is more than rocky.
very wealthy humans.
Yes. Everything will turn out just the way Source has planned, but there is a possibility that the outcome does not include humans in this galactic alliance if we keep being primitives... But as I sure would love to see us evolve I recommend Everyone of us to start educating people! We are responsible about the current situation of this planet - some more than others, but there is nothing Cabal - or whoever is on charge - can do if common people decide not to follow their orders. :)

[araucaria]

In terms of moral philosophy there is nothing easier or less significant than for example former colonial powers apologising to their former colonies for, centuries ago, having colonised them; nothing more futile than expressing regret for the actions of our ancestors that were then regarded as normal but which would now be condemned. Slavery for example - though it carries on of course in the sense of wage slavery or in the very real sense of, say, the immigrant workers in Quatar. I certainly don't take responsibility either for events which have taken place in my lifetime and which I had no power to control. I don't have responsibility for example for Britain's part in the Iraq war. I didn't support it and many of us marched against it. But Mr Blair decided to do it anyway. I don't say we should forget the past and some things are too horrible to be forgotten, but taking personal responsibility for them is another matter. For what reason? Because we are all human beings? That's about as rational as my accepting responsibility for Anders Breivik's killings because we both have blonde hair (or what's left of it in my case). Have to agree with TC on that point - and various others.
In France, when we have a minister forced to resign, we say that he is responsible – but not guilty – for things that happen on his watch. This is the sense I was using the word 'responsible'. It is rather trite to say that we are all in this together, but it remains to be determined on what scale we apply this to ourselves. Some people want to restrict it to a cocoon of family and friends, and leave all the evil goings-on outside of that circle. This is all well and good until the outside world crashes in on them and they find themselves at a loss. Others accept that they are a part of humanity as a whole (and maybe even beyond) and feel somehow responsible at that level. This means that you don’t reject all the evil in the world as being outside of self, but it is by taking charge of the whole that you can do something about things. Otherwise you end up with no-go areas, which have a tendency to bite you in the ass. Take for example Northern Ireland during the troubles of the sixties and seventies. You had violence when the Catholic minority campaigned for secession from the UK against the interests of the Protestant minority. Hence there were places in the UK where the British Army could not enter and maintain law and order without English soldiers getting killed. Also the troubles spread to the mainland, so there was no escaping from the situation. So the presence of a mixed population (here religious) raised issues of belonging and responsibility. Disregarding here the controversial aspects of the settlement, it was decided by referendum to continue living together as one mixed community, and the barricades came down.

I don’t want any barricades anywhere, either this side of the Andromeda galaxy or beyond. If that means taking in the riffraff with the rest, so be it.

[Tyy1907]

"And given how just today, I saw a license plate that said "BLU 1111" (Blue being the nickname for the blueskinned, white haired alien I've seen in several dreams), it's gotta mean something as well."

What have you been able to gather as far as any possible info on these blue skinned beings?

[The Castellan]

"And given how just today, I saw a license plate that said "BLU 1111" (Blue being the nickname for the blueskinned, white haired alien I've seen in several dreams), it's gotta mean something as well."

What have you been able to gather as far as any possible info on these blue skinned beings?


Well, if the dreams are legit (I've dreamed of of that particular blue chick several times). They are technologically advanced, judging from the single surfaced, small vehicle I saw (think of that film, Flight of the Navigator, the way the ship's door 'melted' open), the cities tucked in amongst the nooks and crannies of the mountains, and so on. I saw some simplistic, illuminated control panels inside the vehicle, which was the size of a minivan, which itself shaped sort of like a rounded brick. Not to mention they are quite friendly, "Blue", as I call her, has a very friendly, bubbly personality. Gotta have good eye sight, since their eyes appear 50% larger than ours. Can't speak for all of them, but she was small in stature, about 5 foot even, maybe slightly shorter. They look close to human, apart from the slightly larger eyes, sky blue skin and white hair.

If she came to see me in person, I MIGHT be able to take her out in public if we go to a science fiction convention or a Halloween party.

[The Castellan]

I don’t want any barricades anywhere, either this side of the Andromeda galaxy or beyond. If that means taking in the riffraff with the rest, so be it.

Exactly. Even riffraff's better than nothing. And, to quote William Shatner,
Risk IS the business!
Enough pussyfooting, and get on with it.

[Sirius White]

Ironically....

The presence of "ni.bu.ru" (not the real name of the planet, BTW) would of have been ALL the disclosure we needed. The issue is....it would have also pretty much ended civilization as we know it.

Now....the planetoid (due to intervention that I will not discuss online) will not be coming into close proximity like it once did. It is affecting us now (think twice before you blame everything on haarp), on all levels (magnetically, core of earth, plates, sink holes, weather, atmospheric pressure, etc), but not as intensely. It will affect us longer and less intensely. Because it is not as obvious or close...it is much easier for them to cover it up with the use of chemtrails and other (holographic) means, but this is not perfect. Many people WILL spot the thing......

I am personally hoping it becomes obvious at some point without causing too much havoc. This is one of the "events" the MIC and other parties are terrified of not because of destruction- they welcome that (They have been preparing for over 50 years after all), but because of what it means...in their game plan and control scheme.

[The Castellan]

Ironically....

The presence of "ni.bu.ru" (not the real name of the planet, BTW) would of have been ALL the disclosure we needed. The issue is....it would have also pretty much ended civilization as we know it.

Now....the planetoid (due to intervention that I will not discuss online) will not be coming into close proximity like it once did. It is affecting us now (think twice before you blame everything on haarp), on all levels (magnetically, core of earth, plates, sink holes, weather, atmospheric pressure, etc), but not as intensely. It will affect us longer and less intensely. Because it is not as obvious or close...it is much easier for them to cover it up with the use of chemtrails and other (holographic) means, but this is not perfect. Many people WILL spot the thing......

I am personally hoping it becomes obvious at some point without causing too much havoc. This is one of the "events" the MIC and other parties are terrified of not because of destruction- they welcome that (They have been preparing for over 50 years after all), but because of what it means...in their game plan and control scheme.

Then I say end this civilization, it's nothing but a mentality that making money actually makes a damn meaning in the universe.
I always say, death to the institutions and the military industrial complex. Personally, I say f*ck the military industrial complex until they squeal like pigs on a honeymoon.

Oh, and it's not just earth feeling it, quite a few of us feel it physically, like me.