HELP - My husband wants Vaccines but I don't - HELP for my child

[Nat_Lee]

Hi everyone !

I need help here !
I have watch so many documentary about vaccination and I have made my mind that it is not good for us. My baby had vaccins until 6 months old but now he is 13 months and I'm late for the 12 months vaccines.... I DON'T whant to go but my husband belives in tradditional medecine. Is mother is a nurse and is friend owned a drugstore. They are all convincing him to get our baby have vaccines and they say it is all safe. I asked my doctor and he is telling me that all the vaccins are safe and he does'nt want to tell me wich one are best to get and witch one are not verry important. He is telling me to go to see a nurse and to get help from her because it is the way it work in Québec , doctors are not giving vaccins, the nurses does. I'm triying to show some documentary to my husband but he is saying that this is all BS and not true and there is no proof of annything regarding the fact that autism is caused by vaccin...

Do you have documentaries that are not looking like conspiracy and are showing true studies ? Do you have studies in Canada ? Were can I go to get the ingredient in Canadien Vaccins ? Wath can I do ? I feel so helpless !!! I'm afraid that if I don't get him vaccines then my baby could get a desise and also if I get him a vaccin he will be sick .... I'm so confuse ! thanks in advance to all of you !

Sorry for my bad english ! I don't have time to correct tonight.....
Much love !
Nathalie

[Snookie]

In order to find out what ingredients are in a vaccine, I think you need to be more specific when you do a search. Exactly which vaccines are you supposed to be giving your baby? Are they vaccines or inoculations instead, as I think there may be a difference. Is it for Rubella, proteus, measles, etc?

By the way my brother in laws brother got a shot when his nurse mother took him to a Dr.who gave him a shot that was old. He ended up having the mental capacity of a 2 year old the rest of his life. I also worked with a girl whose baby died after getting vaccinated/inoculated. So they definitely are not without risks.

[Calz]

Do an "advanced search" for started threads with "vaccines" (don't forget the "e") in the title and you will find 48 threads already started (some better than others).

Laws vary depending on location ... but your situation is common with spousal/peer/medical pressure. Big pharma has done a remarkably throrough mind control job on the system(s) and masses.

Good luck.

[Houman]

where to start...
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http://www.vaccinetruth.org/aluminum_hydroxide1.htm

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[ThePythonicCow]

Do an "advanced search" for started threads with "vaccines" (don't forget the "e") in the title ...
I just added an 'e' to the word "Vaccines" in this present thread's title.

[Mu2143]

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[sheme]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqsT5EoIk8U Some stats on this video I hope this helps you both to decide.

This will give him food for thought!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWj3okitO7Q

[Nick Matkin]

Parts of the UK are having a serious child measles epidemic right now which health experts say has yet to peak.

As most here will know, the disease can have very serous side effects, or even kill.

The epidemic has been linked to the discredited report (published by Andrew Wakefield) some years ago linking the MMR vaccine and autism, where many worried parents decided not to have their children vaccinated.

The facts of the discredited report are well known; but for those unfamiliar with the basic study, the findings were concluded not after an epidemiological study of thousands of suspected case, nor even hundreds, but just 12, and eight of those were said to have had "behavioural problems" before receiving the vaccines.

The whole report was riddled with inconsistencies, errors and manipulated statistics, which of course the main-stream media was not equipped to identify. Anyway, why should they bother to find the facts? Once again, don't let the facts get in the way of a good (scare) story. Years later the effects are now being felt amongst hundred of children.

Before you decide not to immunise your children, think long and hard, but I guess you're doing that right now. Good luck.

Nick

[Watching from Cyprus]

Hi everyone !

I need help here !
I have watch so many documentary about vaccination and I have made my mind that it is not good for us. My baby had vaccins until 6 months old but now he is 14 months and I'm late for the 12 months vaccines.... I DON'T whant to go but my husband belives in tradditional medecine. Is mother is a nurse and is friend owned a drugstore. They are all convincing him to get our baby have vaccines and they say it is all safe. I asked my doctor and he is telling me that all the vaccins are safe and he does'nt want to tell me wich one are best to get and witch one are not verry important. He is telling me to go to see a nurse and to get help from her because it is the way it work in Québec , doctors are not giving vaccins, the nurses does. I'm triying to show some documentary to my husband but he is saying that this is all BS and not true and there is no proof of annything regarding the fact that autism is caused by vaccin...

Do you have documentaries that are not looking like conspiracy and are showing true studies ? Do you have studies in Canada ? Were can I go to get the ingredient in Canadien Vaccins ? Wath can I do ? I feel so helpless !!! I'm afraid that if I don't get him vaccines then my baby could get a desise and also if I get him a vaccin he will be sick .... I'm so confuse ! thanks in advance to all of you !

Sorry for my bad english ! I don't have time to correct tonight.....
Much love !
Nathalie

Hi Nathalie, pm your telephone number to me and i will call your husband if that is what it takes... your children's health and future lives are at risk.. is he that dumb your husband... sorry but i get all fired up ... my son had 17 vaccinations until he was 5 which is 4 years ago.. He was always sick until we stopped the vaccines.. now he is completely detoxified and has not even caught a cold for the past 3 years now.. Colloidal Silver is the magic word.

I stand ready to do whatever it takes to help you.

Love
Peter

[sheme]

We all used to catch Measles, Mumps, Whooping cough, Chicken Pox,& Rubella when we were little In fact that was a tradition we would play with each other when someone got infected just so we could all catch it at the same time.

I think it is possible that if ever society packed up, our natural immunity to disease may be compromised as a result of not allowing the human immune system a little proper exercise now and again.

Healthy diet with plenty of vitamins and minerals will do us far more good than needles.

Babies are most vulnerable to disease so breast feed your babies. I think of Pete Peterson and the Camelot talk he gave where he describes the importance of placing a baby next to the mothers heart for long periods of time (as would happen naturally with breast feeding) He claims this is vital for the infant to become a balanced human being.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OfIlUMS_Q3g

Perhaps nature in her wisdom created the virus to remove the unloved to a place of love and safety. We Know now that without love we will fail to thrive.

[Swan]

Hi Nat-Lee,

I sympathize with your situation.

I have a 9 year old and a 6 year old who have never been vaccinated.

My advice is:

- If you must vaccinate them, try and get separate vaccines for separate diseases. Often vaccines are clumped together; for example measles, rubella, whooping cough. The information I have received is that it is easier for the body to cope with one vaccine at a time.

Also, I am sure there are homeopathic remedies you can give your child in that case to strengthen him / her. ( "Thuja" comes to mind, but check...)

- Maybe you can postpone some of the vaccines? Decide what the risks are that your child might contract a disease. I felt that the risk of polio or diphtheria was very small. I also didn´t feel that whooping cough, measles, mumps or rubella were a problem. If they don´t have the mumps or rubella before they are adults, they will have to be vaccinated then.

The disease that worries me the most is tetanus. I give them homeopathic remedies when they cut themselves, and clean wounds carefully.

The downside of NOT vaccinating is that I feel very restricted as far as travelling is concerned. I would have loved to take my children to India...

[northstar]

A few years ago when the swine flu scare was big in the media my family members all got the flu vaccine and I refused it. What was interesting for me was the strong peer pressure they put on me to have the shot! I really had to stick to my guns and I had to repeat over and over "no thanks, I'm not getting that shot" when they were pressuring me to get it. I am happy to say I have not taken a flu shot in more than 10 years and I am very healthy. I never get the flu! There are natural products you can take that keep the body healthy and strong and greatly minimize your chances of getting the fu.

Regarding the vaccination of children, I believe that Dr. Mercola (he is a licensed medical doctor) has a great approach. He is not 100% against vaccines but he believes that children should receive only the bare minimum of well researched vaccines. These are the 4 that he recommends:




Pertussis (acelluar -- aP -- not whole cell) vaccine.
Diphtheria (D) vaccine.
Tetanus (T) vaccine (the first three on this list are to be given separately, not together, as is usually the case).
The Salk polio vaccine, with an inactivated (dead) virus, one that is cultured in human cells, not monkey kidney cells.


Dr. Mercola says:
"Your pediatrician will not like this schedule. They are taught in medical school and residency training that childhood immunizations are essential to public health. As one pediatrician puts it, "Achieving adequate and timely vaccination of young children is the single most valuable thing a doctor can do for a patient." They do not question what their professors teach them, nor are they inclined to critically examine studies in Pediatrics and the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) that tell them vaccines are safe."


He has a excellent article that explains his approach here:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2004/12/29/vaccination-schedule-part-one.aspx

[Sidney]

Go to youtube and watch every video this lady has made. This smart intelligent MD doctor, spoke out about the dangers of vaccines. she has paid hell ever since.

NO vaccine is safe IMO. My stepdaughter is 19 and has never had a vaccine, and also never been sick a day in her life.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PelTWCUmTsU

[Libico]

I went through the exact same thing with my wife with my two children (20 months and 2.5 months) - she was adamant about getting vaccines and would get irrationally defensive, even threatening to take me to court when she was 7 months pregnant with the second! We've discussed it though, and I think her being a mother I hit a soft spot when I basically forced her to sit and watch a 10 minute video about vaccinations. She is part of a group/forum of mothers and brought the debate up there which produced a huge response - something like 30 pages of debate. It was enough to give her some food for thought and she agreed to hear my side of things. In the end we compromised with only getting some vaccines which although I wasn't happy about, is a compromise I was willing to accept. As Watching from Cyprus mentions above - look into Colloidal Silver as well. I've just now (today in fact!) gotten all the materials I need to start making my own batch.

My advice to you is to sting him in his sense of responsibility to you as a husband and to your children as a father to at the very least sit with you and watch a documentary - it is their health you are talking about here, not something trivial like eating sweets. People are unwilling to budge because they have been conditioned to fear change and based on what you write this could be a big change if he ends up agreeing with you. He is your husband so I assume he would respect you enough to take 30 minutes of his time and watch a documentary and have an intelligent discussion about it with you.

Keep us posted on how it goes.

[sheme]

Good advice about separate jabs, Our own PM back in 2001 refused to say if he had had his own son MMR'd, Rumour has it that he had vaccine of an un implicated strain brought over from France and Leo had that in separate doses.

Do Search on Blair MMR

[Samsara]

Salut Nat_Lee, I feel for you since you are in a difficult situation. Like Calz mentioned, there is a great amount of good information threads in Avalon. Dr. Mercola's site also has much good information: http://search.mercola.com/search/pages/Results.aspx?k=vaccines

You may want to go talk to a good homeopath. If you were in the Outaouais, I could recommend one. I'm sure you can find one in Montréal.

My grandson celebrated is 6th birthday yesterday. He never got any vaccines and he is healthy as can be ! My daughter got nervous at some point about polio, mostly because of horror stories told by her Peruvian in-laws. Since they will be going to Peru someday, she got confused and researched about the vaccine thinking that maybe he should have this one. Avalon helped me pass-on some information to her (they already had a lot) and she went to see the homeopath. All this research convinced her there was no need for it. Turns out she took a course of family homeopathy to be better equipped to help her son.

Either way, worry is not good. If you are pressured by family and do bring your baby for vaccination, surround him in a protective bubble. The homeopath can help reduce the bad effects of the vaccine too... hint, hint.

[Eram]

Hi Nat_Lee,

If it comes to the point that your children will get some shots, I would highly recommend that you treat them with the homeopathic remedy for that.
This remedy will take care of much of the downsides of vaccines.

So a shot with a polio vaccine will have to be treated with homeopathic polio afterwards.
Best to have those remedies in the house already when they get the shots.

The very best you could do is to get hold of some droplets of the exact vaccine that is given to your children and give them to someone who can make a homeopathic remedy from it.

Like Swan said: no cocktail shots if possible, those are the worst.

And indeed... the longer you can postpone, the better.

We haven't vaccinated our children.

[Flash]

Nathalie,

Le vaccin MMR est le plus dommageable. De plus, ce qui est en fait le pire c'est la série de vaccins pour un tout petit corps qui n'a pas le temps d'éliminer les toxines entre chaque vaccins. Ce que je te propose de faire, c'est d'amener ton mari s'asseoir dans une salle d'attente ou on traite les enfants autistes. Juste 5 minutes. Il y a quelques centres à Montréal. Tu peux aussi l'emmener dans un centre de traitement hyperbar, les parents sont tellement déserpérés et ils se font dire que cela améliore leur enfant (c'est vrai) et ils paient 5,000$ la série de traitements pour leurs petits. La salle d'attente est pleine d'enfants autistes qui crients, courrent en rond, font le bordel et de parents épuisés - il n'a qu'à leur parler.
Je sais, j'y étais pour ma fille.

Le résultats de traitements suite à des séquelles reliées aux vaccins: environ 150,000$ de traitements alternatifs et un investissent de temps à temps plein durant 10 ans afin d'arriver à récupérer suffisamment son enfant pour qu'elle aie une vie à peu près normale, avec quelques séquelles.

Le problème pour la mienne semble avoir été l'éliminiation des toxines d'une part et une fragilité génétique d'autre part. Les séquelles psychologiques sont énormes car elle a beaucoup souffert et a eu des traitements toutes sa tendre enfance. Quand elle dit maintenant ce qu'elle ressentait lorsqu'elle ne parlait pas, elle dit que c'était une prison.

PM moi et je te dirai ou sont les centres hyperbar. Il y a aussi des vidéos sur le mercure et le cerveau sur le web.

Sorry everyone, it is faster in French.

[The Truth Is In There]

find another husband with some common sense.

no, seriously. if he thinks vaccines are safe then tell him to take all vaccines that the baby is supposed to get first and see how he feels. then, no matter what happens, tell him he just poisoned himself and ruined his health for the rest of his life and you won't allow anybody to do the same to your child. you have to fight them with their own weapons. some people only learn the hard way.

[Timreh]

Hi Nat-Lee,

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaxsupply.htm
This is from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) website about the Seasonal Influenza Vaccine Supply for the U.S. 2012-13 Influenza Season (which is the same as Northern Hemisphere) a table is listed showing mercury as an ingredient.

Scientific studies have proven a link between Thimerosal/Mercury and many neurodevelopmental disorders including Autism, Aspergers Syndrome and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD)



http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/publicat/ccdr-rmtc/12vol38/acs-dcc-2/
(http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/publicat/ccdr-rmtc/12vol38/acs-dcc-2/)http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/publicat/ccdr-rmtc/12vol38/acs-dcc-2/assets/pdf/acs-dcc-2-eng.pdf (as a pdf file)
This is from the Public Health Agency of Canada titled “Statement on Seasonal Influenza Vaccine for 2012–2013” you can see on table 2 that Thimerosal is included in 1 of the vaccines (It seems to be the same for Australia and probably worldwide where the single dose format is Thimerosal-free and the multidose format contains Thimerosal).

Formaldehyde is included in all 4 of the flu vaccines listed on table 2

Thimerosal is a preservative containing around 50% of the highly toxic chemical compound mercury, yes mercury and it is the minute traces of this poison (0.01% or 1:10,000) that are responsible for many of the associated complications.

Formaldehyde is a highly toxic ingredient found in many vaccines, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has declared Formaldehyde as a known carcinogen (cancer causing)


http://thinktwice.com/studies.htm
It is not just the flu vaccine, all of the vaccines have associated risks, Here you will find close to 45 pages of mostly scientific studies on illnesses, diseases, disabilities and risks associated with vaccines

Hope this may be of some help?

[Flash]

Nathalie,

Le vaccin MMR est le plus dommageable. De plus, ce qui est en fait le pire c'est la série de vaccins pour un tout petit corps qui n'a pas le temps d'éliminer les toxines entre chaque vaccins. Ce que je te propose de faire, c'est d'amener ton mari s'asseoir dans une salle d'attente ou on traite les enfants autistes. Juste 5 minutes. Il y a quelques centres à Montréal. Tu peux aussi l'emmener dans un centre de traitement hyperbar, les parents sont tellement déserpérés et ils se font dire que cela améliore leur enfant (c'est vrai) et ils paient 5,000$ la série de traitements pour leurs petits. La salle d'attente est pleine d'enfants autistes qui crients, courrent en rond, font le bordel et de parents épuisés - il n'a qu'à leur parler.
Je sais, j'y était pour ma fille.

Le résultats de traitements suite à des séquelles reliées aux vaccins: environ 150,000$ de traitements alternatif et un investissent de temps à temps plein durant 10 ans afin d'arriver à récupérer suffisamment son enfant pour qu'elle aie une vie à peu près normale, avec quelques séquelles.

Le problèmes pour la mienne semble avoir été l'éliminiation des toxines d'une part et une fragilité génétique d'autre part. Les séquelles psychologiques sont énormes car elle a beaucoup souffert et a eu des traitements toutes sa tendre enfance. Quand elle dit maintenant ce qu'elle ressentait lorsqu'elle ne parlait pas, elle dit que c'était une prison.

PM moi et je te dirai ou sont les centres hyperbar. Il y a aussi des vidéos sur le mercure et le cerveau sur le web.

Sorry everyone, it is faster in French.

Ah oui, et pourquoi les scientistes travaillant dans la production de vaccins de compagnies pharmaceutiques, ici même à Montréal, ne se font surtout pas vacciner???? J'ai des amis en recherche qui ne se feront jamais vacciner, c'est tout dire.

[Debra]

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Been there a few times Nat_Lee and it is scary. You are getting some good information here already. I have just picked up this very neat little chart for starters. Every child is different and therefore reacts differently. By agreeing to vaccinate my first two (twins) I went on an emotional roller coaster because it didn't go well from vaccine #1. Exactly one hour after the vaccine was given, I thought I was going to lose one of them. She was like a limp rag in my arms, her temp soared and then she went the worst shade of white, almost comatose. That is how strong these chemical cocktails are. As a parent, it feels like you are playing russian roulette WITH YOUR KIDS.

Enough of my melodrama, though, your partner requires information and you give it to him .. and you are the mother so make sure your concerns and wishes are valued and carefully considered.

And don´t feel wrong either, if the decision (you make together) is on the side of vaccination. I would suggest being prepared with some good homeopathics like Rescue Remedy, dropped onto the crown of the head is quite good. And anything else to keep the temperature even.

'Good luck Nat. Sending you strength.

[RUSirius]

Hi Nat_Lee, I'm going through something similar right now and was about to post a new thread, slight difference though. My wife and I agree about not vaccinating our daughter, however we are right now getting pressure to vaccine from the government. No child in Guyana is allowed to attend school without all the vaccines, and home schooling is not allowed, yet. I am in the process of arranging a meeting with the minister of education, and am going to present my "facts" to him, he may however, not listen, but then again he may. I can completely relate though to your stresses, I am passionately against these damn things, and I/we should be able to make these decision without someone telling us or making us do something different, these are OUR children. I tried talking with some principals of these schools and even though they said that the issue was open for discussion, that just meant that they would listen to what I said, but still not consider it at all. As far as your husband goes, I was in the same spot with my wife, however she allowed me to present my data to her, and she bought what I was selling, its tough, you know your husband better than we, get creative, its all you can do, very challenging indeed.

[Swan]

Hi Nat_Lee, I'm going through something similar right now and was about to post a new thread, slight difference though. My wife and I agree about not vaccinating our daughter, however we are right now getting pressure to vaccine from the government. No child in Guyana is allowed to attend school without all the vaccines, and home schooling is not allowed, yet. I am in the process of arranging a meeting with the minister of education, and am going to present my "facts" to him, he may however, not listen, but then again he may. I can completely relate though to your stresses, I am passionately against these damn things, and I/we should be able to make these decision without someone telling us or making us do something different, these are OUR children. I tried talking with some principals of these schools and even though they said that the issue was open for discussion, that just meant that they would listen to what I said, but still not consider it at all. As far as your husband goes, I was in the same spot with my wife, however she allowed me to present my data to her, and she bought what I was selling, its tough, you know your husband better than we, get creative, its all you can do, very challenging indeed.

Wow RUSirius, Good for You! I can´t imagine being forced to vaccinate...

I would also like to add that my children are NOT perfectly healthy just because we didn´t vaccinate. In fact my son is extremely sensitive. And since he is so sensitive I am very glad I didn´t have him vaccinated. I am sure that would have had a profoundly negative effect on him. My daughter is more robust and probably could handle it better.

There are not many unvaccinated children where we live, but I must say when i do meet them they often seem to have more "clarity" than other children.

[william r sanford72]

as i have posted befor on this very subject..but i was blessed with a women who trusted me???....and did her own research...our oldest recieved almost all of em...by the time sofi was born the middle child i grew enough balls to start asking question..and getting the courage to fight...iowa does not tell you you have options...and we won the fight on religious grounds thats a story in its self...when you have to fool the system...to beat it.crap!!i feel for anybody just starting this fight....it can be a lonesome fight.dont give up and follow your instincts on this.you will prevail.

[onawah]

In fact, Dr. Andrew was vindicated, and it was a very telling case, showing how very eager and to what lengths Big Pharma will go to save their profit margins, regardless of how many lies they must tell, how many lives are ruined or how many reputations are destroyed in the process.

WHCaRazxiA4

If you google "Dr. Andrew Wakefield vindicated" you will find pages and pages of articles.

Here is a link for a recent one which gives the background and overview of the case and its broader implications, from Dr. Mercola, whose website is one of the most visited of all medical websites.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/03/26/dr-wakefield-vaccine-film.aspx

The National Vaccine Information Center http://www.nvic.org/ is a great place to go for help, even though they are based in the US.
http://www.nvic.org/
They list 2 affilitated organizations for Canada:


VRAN Vaccination Risk Awareness Network

http://www.nvic.org/CMSTemplates/NVIC/images/canada_vran.jpgVaccination Risk Awareness Network (VRAN), Canada's only vaccine awareness site. Founded by Edda West in 1992 to continue the work of the Committee Against Compulsory Vaccination founded in 1982, the Vaccination Risk Awareness Network recognizes thatvaccines are not without risk and supports the right of each individual to adequate disclosure prior to providing consent.


http://www.nvic.org/CMSTemplates/NVIC/images/prevent_disease_small_logo.jpgPrevent Disease In a nation plagued by diseases which are more than eighty percent preventable our mission is to: 1) empower and provide people with the necessary resources to prevent disease and effectively control their own health and 2) provide a voice for agencies concerned with advising educating and informing businesses and professionals about the importance of prevention and leading healthy active lifestyles. http://www.preventdisease.com/








Parts of the UK are having a serious child measles epidemic right now which health experts say has yet to peak.

As most here will know, the disease can have very serous side effects, or even kill.

The epidemic has been linked to the discredited report (published by Andrew Wakefield) some years ago linking the MMR vaccine and autism, where many worried parents decided not to have their children vaccinated.

The facts of the discredited report are well known; but for those unfamiliar with the basic study, the findings were concluded not after an epidemiological study of thousands of suspected case, nor even hundreds, but just 12, and eight of those were said to have had "behavioural problems" before receiving the vaccines.

The whole report was riddled with inconsistencies, errors and manipulated statistics, which of course the main-stream media was not equipped to identify. Anyway, why should they bother to find the facts? Once again, don't let the facts get in the way of a good (scare) story. Years later the effects are now being felt amongst hundred of children.

Before you decide not to immunise your children, think long and hard, but I guess you're doing that right now. Good luck.

Nick

[GlassSteagallfan]

For you, from the people that make the vaccines:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AgKBVaPKWo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AgKBVaPKWo

[Wind]

I know that vaccines have messed up many peoples lives, I strongly advise to not to take any if you have the chance.

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[selinam]

Parts of the UK are having a serious child measles epidemic right now which health experts say has yet to peak.

As most here will know, the disease can have very serous side effects, or even kill.

The epidemic has been linked to the discredited report (published by Andrew Wakefield) some years ago linking the MMR vaccine and autism, where many worried parents decided not to have their children vaccinated.

The facts of the discredited report are well known; but for those unfamiliar with the basic study, the findings were concluded not after an epidemiological study of thousands of suspected case, nor even hundreds, but just 12, and eight of those were said to have had "behavioural problems" before receiving the vaccines.

The whole report was riddled with inconsistencies, errors and manipulated statistics, which of course the main-stream media was not equipped to identify. Anyway, why should they bother to find the facts? Once again, don't let the facts get in the way of a good (scare) story. Years later the effects are now being felt amongst hundred of children.

Before you decide not to immunise your children, think long and hard, but I guess you're doing that right now. Good luck.

Nick

With regard to this story, I have heard that even those children who received the MMR vaccination have contracted measles. So, even if you disregard everything else that has been said about vaccinations, if they don't work why have them?

Selina

[meat suit]

Nat Lee,

I am totally with how you feel.... in my case ignorance was bliss and both my kids had all the usual shots they get in the UK.
they had homeopathic remedies like Eran suggested, and that really helped with the reactions.
it was only in 2009 with the swine flu hysteria that I started doing my homework on vaccines... I was really relieved that my kids had no problems...
I would now not have my kids vaccinated , instead let them get ill and treat them with colloidal silver,.....

which is in fact like 'the real vaccination' as you get a virus and then weaken it with collidal silver so that your immune system has an easier job developing anti bodies.

good luck!

[onawah]

Gut health is vital for a strong immune system.
There is a wealth of information about that on Dawn's thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43548-The-gut-of-most-disease...-NOT-what-you-think-

Dr. Rebecca Carley is an expert on vaccine dangers as well as a homeopathic preventative and healing protocols.
See:
http://www.drcarley.com/bio.htm
http://www.drcarley.com/

[Lifebringer]

From what I understand, it's the MULTI-DOSE shots that cause the problems. Too many differing virus at one time. Most of the insurance companies don't want to pay a doctor for just administering shots on appt, so they try and "cram in all they can" at each appt, and check off the list before school time.

If you tell your doctor, you'll feel much better if your child didn't have the multidose shot and to space the shots to allow for the child to adjust/fever and such. If multidose are given, you can't tell which vaccine causes the harm.

Seems to alieve a parent/mother's heart, they should consider spacing the shot in between. This also happens because some people's children are scared to death of shots and carry on so badly, they try and prevent more episodes from happening.
Perhaps you could call the doctor and explain your concern and ask for the shots to be administered with an alloted time between.

[onawah]

It only takes one vaccine with enough thimerosal or other toxins to cause serious damage, even death, especially if the child is sensitive or in some way vulnerable, and there is no way to know for sure which children may be seriously affected.
And it's often not possible to trace damages back to the vaccines because there are few protocols for that, and even fewer complete studies that have been done.
There are plenty of case histories of this happening--one vaccine=dead child or seriously disabled child, even if the child was in good health before the vaccine.
IMHO, the whole vaccine program is unconscionable and severely flawed.

[Lifebringer]

Very good and in depth explanation. It this video should be twitterized on all the health sites on major news papers and blogs. Make the citizens question this, by putting it in their faces.

Grandma's won't tolerate poisoning the grandchildren for profits.
Formaldehyde
Aluminum
Mercury
MSG

Their FAMM, isn't like OUR FAMILY.

[Czarek]

How about this, why don't you tell him that you follow what Japan does. They don't start with the vaccines till the child is 2 years old. This will buy you time.

[Anchor]

- If you must vaccinate them, try and get separate vaccines for separate diseases. Often vaccines are clumped together; for example measles, rubella, whooping cough. The information I have received is that it is easier for the body to cope with one vaccine at a time.

This is great advice.

You are in such a complex situation given the pressures on you, relationships, childs health and your conscience - compromise may be the best answer.

If it were me, this is what I would do unless I had received strong inner guidance not to vaccinate in this case.

So you have an option to compromise, insist on separate vaccines and no-vaccine cocktails, even if you have to pay a bit.

Again if this was me, and I had ended up compromising on administering individual vaccine, then each time one was given, I would pray for the highest and best outcome. In some cases, I have no doubt that an otherwise dangerous vaccine could be neutralized by higher powers would be invoked as required, and everyone ends up happy.

Your loving intent for the best for your child has got you halfway there already.

Fear less, love more.

[Anchor]

Before you decide not to immunise your children, think long and hard, but I guess you're doing that right now. Good luck.

Nick

Refusing MMR and refusing immunization are not the same thing.

I recall that in UK the system ganged up on concerned mothers and made if very hard for them to get separate vaccines in place of a single MMR jab.

No one would accept responsibility for the side-effects and no one would fully disclose details about the testing that had been done - nor even the composition of the vaccine.

[onawah]

Or...
you can take it forward and rely on good nutrition, supplementation and homeopathic prevention and healing, which is what more and more parents are doing in the growing ranks of the unwilling to vaccinate.

[DeDukshyn]

Both my kids almost died after getting the H1N1 shot (against my wishes) -- Below you will see that the vaccine may have helped the pandemic along by actually making people more susceptible to it. This makes a whole ton of sense if you are Big Pharma.


here's the steps as they were taken with the fake H1N1 pandemic:

1) Plaster all over the media about a new strain of deadly flu called H1N1. (in reality H1N1 has been around forever and is a fairly common strain, although there are minor variations) The pandemic doesn't have to be real yet -- just perceived to be. I think everyone saw this long before they knew anyone who had gotten the sickness.

2) convince the Government via WHO channels and Health Canada that the threat is huge and that to protect its people, All Canadians need free, and "mandatory" flu shots. In reality, billions of your tax dollars pay for it and although I couldn't find a link (there are articles out there) UPDATE! I found the link and thank God for the CBC! http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2009/09/30/h1n1-vaccine-canada.html, let it also be known that the pharma companies that supply these vaccinations do so only on the condition that only the government (and thus your tax dollars) be responsible for any adverse side effects, deaths, hospitalizations, etc, no matter what. In other words, they do not stand behind their product as "safe" in in form whatsoever; Raise you hand if you would buy food that the producer refused to claim that its food was safe to eat, but ok, inject me with a fluid with the same health claim?!?! Absurd!!. They make it so if you kid dies of a vaccination, you can't sue them, but you have to sue the government who will pay the settlement out with your own hard earned tax dollars. Why is this?

3) The vaccine actually encourages the infection and spread of the virus ... yup, here is evidence: http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2012/09/10/flu-shot-pandemic.html, then everyone goes "oooh! looks bad! I better get one too!"

4) Big pharma reaps even more money without liability by treating all those who get sick with questionably safe methods, and has absolutely no responsibility in what they are doing - that's a red flag right there. They go after government directly rather than the consumer because they have your tax dollar, and if they can convince your government you need it, your government will pay for it for you -- a sick money making scam is all it is -- the snake oil salesmen never went away -- they got bigger.


It's a win-win-win-win for big pharma, and a lose-lose-lose-lose for every Canadian. There is some really grandly evil marketing geniuses out there and they work for pharma. I would know, I think like them, so I see everything they do for what it is.

"But, doesn't it sometimes work?" -- there is no reliable evidence anywhere that flu vaccines work - or any vaccine for that matter, the reason why disease has declined so much is more to do with increases in income to allow people to look after their health better and seek treatment when needed, and better hygiene / hspital care, etc. -- 150 years ago those weren't even options, thus it looks like vaccines saved the world from ugly diseases, but I doubt this is the case. It's like the fluoride story: "Since we put fluoride in water and toothpaste, tooth health has been better." -- yet if you look at WHO stats - countries without fluoridation saw a faster rate improved dental health than those countries it was forced upon, yet "Fluoride" takes the credit, when actually it never helped one bit with what it was claimed to have done. It was all "other factors" that led to the improvement in peoples dental health.

One question I ask is "Is there really a risk?" -- you would be surprised at how little risk there is in not getting a shot, here's another good article: http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2012/11/22/flu-deaths-crowe.html

More on flu shot risk and lies: http://naturalsociety.com/h1n1-vaccine-side-effects-nerve-disease/

That's just flu shots, but I hope it helps paint a larger picture about vaccines.

ADDITION: In case this hasn't been posted in this thread somewhere yet, here it is for good measure:http://preventdisease.com/news/13/022013_5-Vaccines-To-Never-Give-A-Child.shtml

[Anchor]

Or...
you can take it forward and rely on good nutrition, supplementation and homeopathic prevention and healing, which is what more and more parents are doing in the growing ranks of the unwilling to vaccinate.

The downside of this is that you may end up alienating your life partners, family, friends..... its a horrid situation and there is never going to be one size fits all solution.

At least Nat_Lee knows of the dangers. Whatever happens that increased awareness enables a greater focus on what needs to be done, with or without the vaccines.

Sadly, many people do not even understand that there is even a problem with the administering artificial bio-chemical cocktails into a young body that have not been researched properly, tested properly, and which rather tellingly that insurance companies refuse to cover - leaving it up to the government to underwrite the risks (i.e: the very people either strongly persuaded or forced to have them) and which have huge commercial interests for the producers and topped off by an accompaniment of institutionalized lies and deceit.

And people think we are mad.

[onawah]

If I could thank someone multi-times, I would thank DeDukshyn for that last post.
I've been posting so many articles and videos etc about the dangers of vaccines for a long time, including my own health problems resulting from receiving the virus-contaminated SV40 polio vaccine.
But when someone whose children were vaccinated against their wishes, and almost died as a result speaks out, that should grab everyone's attention.
How thankful we can be that those children didn't die!
Whatever Nat_Lee decides, more thanks to so many awakening minds that the information is out there now and more and more parents are realizing they have choices.
There should never be a penalty for whatever that choice is, and one day, there won't be.

[Amysenthia]

One of the best documentaries about Vaccines is called "The Greater Good". It truly one of the most balanced presentations that I have seen. Best of all it describes the politics behind why we are so brainwashed by the medical field to "Get your shots". If there is one documentary that your husband should watch it is this one.

L4-X-Xpm240

DON'T WORRY THE VIDEO IS IN ENGLISH

[northstar]

Both my kids almost died after getting the H1N1 shot (against my wishes) -- Below you will see that the vaccine may have helped the pandemic along by actually making people more susceptible to it. This makes a whole ton of sense if you are Big Pharma.

here's the steps as they were taken with the fake H1N1 pandemic:...

That is horrible about your kids. I would be absolutely livid if that was done to my kids without my permission. It is shocking and troubling that happened to your kids!!


Great post about the H1N1 scare!

I remember that well because there was a big panic in the news. Major media was speading stories about people dropping dead and they were very much sensationalizing the flu. I did some basic research (thank God for Dr. Mercola!!) and I determined that I did not need the H1N1 vaccine.
What was interesting to me was how much family members pressured me to get it (all my family members chose to get the H1N1 vaccine)

[DeDukshyn]

Both my kids almost died after getting the H1N1 shot (against my wishes) -- Below you will see that the vaccine may have helped the pandemic along by actually making people more susceptible to it. This makes a whole ton of sense if you are Big Pharma.

here's the steps as they were taken with the fake H1N1 pandemic:...

That is horrible about your kids. I would be absolutely livid if that was done to my kids without my permission. It is shocking and troubling that happened to your kids!!
....


I found out later that there was silent recall of a an entire batch of shots from Alberta and Saskatchewan -- some of which went to the place where my kids got theirs. I did a fair bit of research after my kids got sick and what I found was shocking. I believe it was about in the neighbourhood of 140,000 Canadians, or maybe it was only Ontarians? Anyway, a big number (largest for any vaccine) that had severe adverse reactions requiring hospitalizations from the H1N1 vaccine, yet this stat was absolutely nowhere to be found in any health or medical journal let alone in the mass media and to this day almost no one knows what really went down in 2009 regarding this. It truly was a scam of epic proportions and we payed for all of it and Harper is still a good leader? .... :confused:
[/endrant]

[northstar]

I found out later that there was silent recall of a an entire batch of shots from Alberta and Saskatchewan -- some of which went to the place where my kids got theirs. I did a fair bit of research after my kids got sick and what I found was shocking. I believe it was about in the neighbourhood of 140,000 Canadians, or maybe it was only Ontarians? Anyway, a big number (largest for any vaccine) that had severe adverse reactions requiring hospitalizations from the H1N1 vaccine, yet this stat was absolutely nowhere to be found in any health or medical journal let alone in the mass media and to this day almost no one knows what really went down in 2009 regarding this. It truly was a scam of epic proportions and we payed for all of it and Harper is still a good leader? .... :confused:
[/endrant]

That is a shocking eye opener!
It is sickening to think that this "crisis" was manufactured to fatten the profits of Big Pharma. What a betrayal of the public trust!

I remember very clearly the strong feeling of panic that was being spread in the media. I remember seeing a lot of tweets from people who were in a state of fear and panic regarding H1N1.

I just kept tweeting the information from Dr. Mercola: he said "this is a mild illness".

I am so grateful that we have forums like this to spread truth and light. I can't imagine going back to the dark days when the only media available was network TV, radios and daily newspapers. There are a lot of people who are totally mind programmed by what they see on TV and hear on the radio.

[Nat_Lee]

OMG ! Thanks to you all !
I don't have the time to answer to all of you individually but FROM all of my HEART BIG THANK YOU to all of you !
I was touch when I saw all the help you are willing to give us ! THANK YOU - THANK YOU -THANK YOU again....

I was so emotional when I wrote my tread that i forgot to tell that my husband is against the flu vaccine... At least he doesn't belive in it and either both of us have had the H1N1 vaccine because we diden't belive in that scam.
He is more open than it shows in my thread... Sorry about that....
He told me he was ok about the fact that we could wait a while in between each vaccines and give him one at the time separate.
So far my baby had those vaccines at the age of 2, 4 and 6 months old:

Pediacel
(vaccin contre la diphtérie - l'hémophilus b - la coqueluche - la polio - le tétanos)

Prevenar 13
est destiné à la prévention de maladies dues à un certain nombre de bactéries appelées pneumocoques, le plus souvent résistantes aux antibiotiques, et responsables de méningites, de pneumonies, de septicémies.

Rotarix
Rotarix est indiqué dans l'immunisation active des nourrissons âgés de 6 à 24 semaines pour la prévention des gastro-entérites dues à une infection à rotavirus

NOW he is 13 months old and I'm late for his vaccines for 12 months.
He is suppose to get those:

12 months:
Vaccin conjugué contre le pneumocoque
Vaccin conjugué contre le méningocoque
Vaccin RRO-Var

18 months:
Vaccin DCaT-Polio-Hib
Vaccin RRO

BUT why do they have to give 2 or 3 times the same vaccine if he already had it ?

I will ask my husband to watch some of the videos and I'm shure he will do it !
He is not a monster, he is my husband and I love him... He loves is child as much as I do but our belive system is different so that is why it creates conflict in this topic.
But I have confidence in our love to make everything work for the best of our litle baby.

Oh, By the way ! I have breast fed my baby from birth to 12 month old so I know he as a good start !

First step, asking my husband to watch a video
Next step, going to see the nurse and see how we could manage all this.
Then I'll keep you posted !

I love you so much AVALONIENS !
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[karamba]

Hello Nat_lee!
Hope you will find "peceful answer"! I found ths web, I know that you might not have a time but is some vaccines topics on Gaia Health, hope that might help you.
All the best to you and your husband and litte one!
Love
http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/category/conventional-med/vaccines/

[varuna]

I experienced the same issue when my son was born..my husband at the time being very pro vaccines. We did some research and found that you can get Homeopathic vaccines which work on the same principle of exposing the body to a small amount of the disease which the body then creates a resistance to. The Homeopath advised at the time that the illness vaccinated against may present itself but be weakened. This placated my other half and then we later had my son vaccinated against a few major illnesses when his immune system was more able to cope with it.

This was 12 yrs ago so sorry can't tell you the name of the company who supplied the tablets, but I guess it's out there on the net somewhere.

Good luck with it all.

[music]

Mercury, formaldehyde, MSG, aluminium are to be found in virtually every vaccine. These are all neurotoxins, so are we surprised that children suffer neurological conditions as a result. This comment from the video I'll post below:


Im an RN. My grandson was mamed terribly and almost died after his routine vaccines, they gave him like 4 at one time,,, since then, he immediately was damaged. He almost died, he cannot talk, swallow anything other than pureed foods, he cannot talk, and he is autistic now. He cannot even poop! It attacked his brain and muscular system. You did the right thing,,,, its all tru! Heavy metals, food flavor enhancer (msg),,etc.. how can this provide any immunity from a virus! It dosent!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AgKBVaPKWo

This is from Mike Adams. Check out his Natural News fb page (https://www.facebook.com/HealthRanger) and http://www.naturalnews.com/

Also, for truth about nutrition and overall health issues, consult the Weston A. Price Foundation on facebook (https://www.facebook.com/westonaprice) and website (http://www.westonaprice.org/)

Type vaccine or vaccination into the search bar at either and you will find a load of stuff.

Bonne chance.

ps Wakefield's study has never been disputed, money and coercion were brought to bear here to make it appear disputed. Don't believe everything big pharma tells you about their own products. And even if the sample size was small, or if the study unsound, there is AMPLE evidence that vaccines are poisin.

[music]

Then look at this. A friend who spent time in the US military said he and everyone he served with were forced to take multiple experimental flu vaccine shots. Testing these vaccines appears to be widespread in the military. The following video may or may not be real, but my friend's story is. The delivery of the presenter appears natural to me (not acted).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmOuV-6NRWQ&NR=1

[music]

A mixture of spiralina and chlorella taken in juice once a day will help to eliminate heavy metals from the system. We should also all be aware that fluoride, in the form it is added to drinking water easily entrains with aluminium and this compound does cross the blood/brain barrier easily. Take care giving spirulina/chlorella to children, low dosage at first, as a digestive healing crisis can be initiated in the young or ill. Probiotics from fermented foods (eg sauerkraut, kimchi) also protect the body from the effects of neurotoxins.

[Flash]

Then look at this. A friend who spent time in the US military said he and everyone he served with were forced to take multiple experimental flu vaccine shots. Testing these vaccines appears to be widespread in the military. The following video may or may not be real, but my friend's story is. The delivery of the presenter appears natural to me (not acted).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmOuV-6NRWQ&NR=1

if i remember well this video was debunked about 2 years ago here on Avalon, but i do not remember which thread. I have seen it shown again and again, it my be worth checking the debunking, i can't find it.

[NewFounderHome]

Hi Nat_Lee,

Well as you see, Here in Quebec a lot of folks don't take the vaccines. We did see that during the H1N1. But all the health members have been well brain washed and they all follow the path of what they are told.

There is not much proof here in Quebec, there seems to be more else that is sad.

I will say then i'm under the impression then Public health in Quebec will leave you alone as opposed to other parts of the world.

The other thing is if your son comes up with X sickness it can be addressed then, preventive stuff (injections) you don't need is just running after problems.

I would normally say ''Go with your mother gut'' but we did see when the H1N1 vaccination where announced, some mothers where just hysteric nut cases that needed to past first for the good of there kid. Sooo! I will hold back here.

As for the exchange with your husband. Simply tell him then you are thinking of the over all health of you son. Ask him should we get him cut open so a doc can make sure all is well inside and then close him back up just to make sure all is well, a vaccine is just that it is a maybe.

Flash is right, get him in some hospitals and ask him to look around and then say do you want this to be part of our life. Waiting in hospitals, being given the run around in the different departments seeing different specialist and being told crap. Get him to look after a handicap, autistic kid. Make him then relies what this kid could have this for the rest of his life.

It is not an easy task, I perfectly understand the situation. One of my brothers is in the almost same situation.

[Kimberley]

I have been reading this thread from the beginning...only now have the time to contribute my experiences...

Thank you one and all for the great contribution of information AGAINST vaccinations.

For those of you for vaccinations you have been brain washed. So it is the truth. i have been researching vaccinations for over 20 years now.

My daughters will be 21 & 17 in July of this year. I did have them vaccinated for polio & tetanus because 20 years ago from the research I did lead me to doing those vaccinations... I am not going to spell it out at this point. If anyone really wants to know why I will be happy to take the time to give the details of my decision....

Anyway, they had no more vaccinations and both were breast fed for over 4 years...they are two of the healthiest children I know.

I consider myself to be a kind of pioneer in the against vaccinations realm. I did hours and hours and hours of research about it and came to the conclusion to not vaccinate except for the two vaccinations I did have administered... In hind sight if I was currently making the decision I would not vaccinate at all, no way !!!

For me back 20 years ago my husband , an attorney, was not in favor of my choice to not vaccinate. However thankfully the universe provided a scientist client of my husband that worked in the medical field to speak to my husband that he did not vaccinate his children either...So thank the universe that my husband was provided a medical scientist into his life that agreed with me and that was the end of that debate for us.

I could go on and on about this topic with many more stories and information...however I am just going to state... DO NOT VACCINATE if at all possible.

I have such sympathy for those such as RUSirius that does not have the freedom that we kind of have in the USA... In the state I live in (Massachusetts) we have 2 exemptions from vaccinations.. medical and religious. Some states have conscientious objection, not in Mass.. So I had no problem using the religious rejection. Even though I am not religious...I decided to be religious to object to the vaccinations :-)

As I said my daughters are healthier than any other children that I have been in contact with (and I have been in contact with hundreds of children through my years a s a mother of children) except for the other children that were breastfed for several years and had no vaccinations.

So dear Nathalie I too give you the offer to please have me talk with your husband and I will give him an ear full if he is willing!!!

MUch love! :grouphug: Much Peace :peace: To us always in all ways!!!

[Nat_Lee]

I Have found this on a Quebec Governement website: http://www.msss.gouv.qc.ca/sujets/santepub/vaccination/index.php?foire_aux_questions_en
They are talking about some ingredients in vaccines and also the mercury one .....


Le thimérosal contenu dans les vaccins peut-il entraîner l’autisme ou d’autres troubles du développement?
Non. Le thimérosal ne cause pas l’autisme ni d’autres troubles du développement.

Le thimérosal est un dérivé du mercure. Utilisé comme agent de conservation, il entre dans la composition de certains vaccins. Cette forme de mercure n’est pas dangereuse.

La forme de mercure qui peut provoquer des lésions cérébrales et nerveuses graves si elle est ingérée en grande quantité est le méthylmercure. Le thimérosal, une fois dans l’organisme, se transforme en un produit différent appelé éthylmercure. Contrairement au méthylmercure, l’éthylmercure est éliminé rapidement de l’organisme et risque peu de s’y accumuler.

Est-ce vrai que l’aluminium contenu dans certains vaccins est toxique?
Les vaccins peuvent contenir des sels d’aluminium, mais la quantité d’aluminium contenue dans un vaccin équivaut à moins de 1 mg par dose. Cette quantité ne cause aucun tort à l’être humain selon ce qui a été observé. De bien plus grandes quantités de sels d’aluminium sont absorbées par l’organisme lorsqu’une personne prend des antiacides (par exemple, de 200 à 400 mg d’hydroxyde d’aluminium par comprimé), sans entraîner d’effet secondaire appréciable.

Les vaccins peuvent-ils transmettre des maladies animales aux êtres humains?
Comme les vaccins sont des produits biologiques, il faut parfois utiliser des cellules animales pour les produire. Ce procédé est soumis à une réglementation stricte de façon à ce que les vaccins ne présentent aucun risque pour la santé humaine. Pendant leur fabrication, les vaccins sont purifiés et toutes les cellules animales en sont éliminées. De plus, on soumet chaque lot de vaccins à des tests pour s’assurer qu’il ne contient aucun agent infectieux.

Du sérum de bovins est parfois utilisé dans la fabrication de certains vaccins au Canada. Les scientifiques de plusieurs pays ont étudié le risque d’exposition à la maladie de la vache folle par la vaccination. Le risque est de 1 sur 40 milliards de doses. Malgré ce risque extrêmement faible, les fabricants de vaccin s’efforcent de trouver des composants qui pourraient remplacer le sérum de bovins.

English:

Can the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine cause autism or other developmental disorders?
No. In fact, many studies conducted in the United States, the United Kingdom, Denmark, and Québec involving hundreds of thousands of children have proven that it doesn't.

The reason why autism is often mistakenly associated with the MMR vaccine is that it is administered around the same age that the disease is diagnosed. Autism is usually diagnosed at age 18 to 30 months, while children receive the MMR vaccine at age 12 to 18 months.

Since the 1990s, the autism rate has also increased in quite a few countries. The increase, however, cannot be attributed to the MMR vaccine, but rather to the fact that pervasive developmental disorders are now considered a form of autism. Health-care professionals are now more aware of autism and diagnose it more often.

Can the thimerosal used in vaccines cause autism or other developmental disorders?
No. Thimerosal does not cause autism or other developmental disorders.

Thimerosal, a mercury derivative used as a preservative in certain vaccines, is not harmful.

The form of mercury that can produce severe brain and nerve lesions if ingested in large quantities is methylmercury. Once within the body, thimerosal is converted into another product, called ethylmercury. Unlike methylmercury, ethylmercury is rapidly eliminated from the body and the risk of it accumulating is low.

Is the aluminum found in certain vaccines toxic?
While vaccines can contain aluminum salts, the quantity of aluminum in a given vaccine is less than 1 mg per dose. Based on observations, this amount is not harmful to humans. Much larger amounts of aluminum salts are ingested and absorbed by the body when a person takes an antacid (for example, 200 to 400 mg of aluminum hydroxide per tablet) without causing appreciable side effects.

Can vaccines transmit animal diseases to humans?
Since vaccines are biological products, sometimes animal cells must be used in producing them. This process is subject to strict regulation so that the vaccines produced entail no risk to human safety. During the manufacturing process, the vaccines are purified and all animal cells are eliminated. Moreover, each vaccine lot undergoes testing to ensure that it contains no infectious agents.

Bovine serum is sometimes used in producing some vaccines in Canada. Researchers in a number of countries have studied the risk of exposure to mad-cow disease through vaccination. The risk has been determined to be 1 out of 40 billion doses. Despite this extremely low risk, vaccine manufacturers are striving to find components to replace bovine serum.

I found the list of ingredients in Canadien vaccin's:

French: http://immunize.ca/fr/publications-resources/contents.aspx

English: http://immunize.ca/en/publications-resources/contents.aspx

[Flash]

Well Nathalie, good news here. I was at the CLSC (local center health clinic) with my teenage daughter last Friday. The nurse mentioned the vaccine for teenager girls, which I refused and my daughter refused. I explained that she does not react well to vaccines and do not want to give her anymore.

I also explained that she had a long history of biochemical impairments and did not want to aggravate her in any way, that it may be difficult for her to eliminate toxins. The answers was: yes, we have seen a video on this here for autism amongst other things and I understand. There were no more discussion on vaccination. The message is starting to get through.

[Kimberley]

Flash and all the HPV (human papilloma virus) vaccine is horrible!!! Given to teenage girls and now they are giving it to boys also...

Shocking Statistics about the HPV Vaccine
http://www.endalldisease.com/gardasil-guards-against-almost-nothing/

Just search HPV side effects and you will find tons of video and articles...