Ahmadinejad UN speech sparks walk-outs

[Studeo]

US and EU delegates walk out during President Ahmadinejad's UN address
The US and other Western delegations at the 65th UN General Assembly have walked out in protest at the speech of the Iranian president.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11402101

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said some saw the 11 September attacks on the US as part of a US conspiracy to protect Israel.

Mr Ahmadinejad was speaking on the first day of a week-long UN diplomatic marathon at its New York headquarters.
The US denounced his remarks on the 2001 attacks, which killed nearly 3,000 people, as "abhorrent and delusional".

The American delegation was joined in its walk-out by representatives from 32 other nations - including all the EU countries, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Costa Rica.

But Mr Ahmadinejad appeared undaunted by the protest, continuing his attack on Zionism and Israel, says BBC diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus.

Capitalist 'failures'

The Iranian president's speech was part political diatribe, part sermon, adds our correspondent - a wide-ranging presentation of his own particular world view.

Mr Ahmadinejad did not accuse the US directly of being part of a conspiracy behind the 11 September attacks.

But he did suggest that one theory he claimed was popular was that the US government had orchestrated it to provide a pretext to reverse its declining grip on the Middle East.

At that, US diplomats got up and left the hall, followed by the British and some other Western delegations.

In fact the hall was less than half full. Most senior Western politicians were deep in discussion at a separate meeting on the UN Security Council's role in peace and security.

That did not deter Iran's president. He said sanctions against Iran were unjust and ineffective, and he stood ready for an annual public dialogue with the US president to air their differences.
The Iranian president said he would host a conference on terrorism next year and that 2011 should be the year of nuclear disarmament.

Repeating Iran's denial that it was seeking the capacity to build nuclear weapons, Mr Ahmadinejad said some members of the UN Security Council had "equated nuclear energy with nuclear bombs".

He also said Tehran would not submit to what he called unnecessary pressure from the the UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Mr Ahmadinejad had started his speech by outlining what he called the failure of the existing world order and capitalism, saying the world should be run by virtuous people like the Prophets.

Although he said that Iran was ready to have a serious discussion with US statesmen, our correspondent says that on the evidence of this speech there would be little for them to talk about.

In response to the speech, Mark Kornblau, spokesman for the US mission at the United Nations, told AFP news agency: "Rather than representing the aspirations and goodwill of the Iranian people, Mr Ahmadinejad has yet again chosen to spout vile conspiracy theories and anti-Semitic slurs that are as abhorrent and delusional as they are predictable."

At the UN General Assembly, leaders take to the stage to make speeches on a subject of their choice.

Iran has already endured four rounds of increasingly punitive economic sanctions over the nuclear dispute.

Foreign ministers from countries including the US, UK, China, France, Germany and Russia discussed the issue at a meeting on Wednesday, and it is also likely to be raised on the fringes of the General Assembly.

Dozens of fringe meetings take place and correspondents say they constitute the most important business of the event.

Peace-keeping in Somalia, the possible break-up of Sudan, the conflict in Yemen, climate change and UN reform are all set to feature in these smaller meetings.

'Hard realities'

Speaking shortly after UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon launched the diplomatic marathon on Thursday, US President Barack Obama urged the audience to support direct Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations which started on 2 September.


Mr Obama said the road to peace in the Middle East had "few peaks and many valleys" He said those longing for an independent Palestine must not try to tear down Israel, and called on Israel to extend a moratorium on building new settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

Mr Obama accepted that many remained pessimistic about the peace process, with cynics saying the two sides were too distrustful of each other, and too divided internally, to forge lasting peace.

"Some say that the gaps between the parties are too big; the potential for talks to break down is too great; and that after decades of failure, peace is simply not possible."

But the US president called on his fellow leaders to consider the alternative.

"If an agreement is not reached, Palestinians will never know the pride and dignity that comes with their own state. Israelis will never know the certainty and security that comes with sovereign and stable neighbours who are committed to co-existence.

"The hard realities of demography will take hold. More blood will be shed. This Holy Land will remain a symbol of our differences, instead of our common humanity."

In his opening address, Mr Ban urged the nations to stand together in a time of growing challenges and uncertainty.

He said the UN provided a moral compass for a world in which social inequalities were growing, with women and children bearing the brunt.

He called for a "stronger UN for a better world".

Mr Ban said the UN had embraced an ambitious agenda for a more prosperous world free of poverty, and for a greener, safer world free of nuclear weapons.

[Humble Janitor]

Whoa, wait a minute? This is deja-vu! Didn't they do the same thing last year when he addressed the U.N?

[Etherios]

its all a act to them. They are just puppets moving on the strings...

[Studeo]

Armadinijad is not interested in being a puppet for the NWO. In my own opinion I admire his stance. Good on him. We at Avalon have been discussing the posibility of a 9/11 coverup and most of us have the opinion that things don't add up and their are far more questions than the official record answers.
The west only built a certain type of nuclear power plant early on for the production of nuclear weapons, energy was really an afterthought . Iran only wants them for electricity and have made deals with Turkey to supply fuel which Obama wanted in the beginning but now he's pissed off because he didn't get the brownie points for brokering the deal. And now is throwing all sorts of sanctions at Iran which may end up biteing Obama in the ass if Iran decides to retaliate by attacking shipping in the Gulf of Homuz. Go Armi. I say, don't take s**t from the NWO.

[Luke]

Hmm.
Easy on that cheering. Way I see it, it's all by design. Ahmadinerjad puppet serves his role as "bad guy" for govt proposers and "good guy" those who oppose ..

Its typical "play both ends" strategyof NWO

No-one that is part of power structure is really interested in liberty/freedom. All else, including beliefs, is powerplay.

I say, stop being gullible.

[Rhiannon]

maybe you should just watch the full speech and then comment on what he actually said, rather than commenting on comments...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EBgqgIWuoc

[Eric J (Viking)]

I was watching the speech last night on Sky. When he got to the bit about 911 and making the connection with Israel ect etc ... they quickly cut him off to make way for some news about the C/Games ect etc ...

Mmmmm :confused: :cool:

IMHO I don't think he's part of the NWO !! He is a thorn in there side !! Too many games too many plays...

viking

[Studeo]

Thank you Rhiannon. One of the best speeches i've heared to come out of the UN. SaiCO Armadiniejad is not playing the roll of "bad guy" if he advocates equallity and justice.
Nothing he said seemed confrontational or the ranting of a mad man. I am getting a bit tired of the same old argument that TPTB are doing this or that and thats the end of that and your view is not worthy of anymore discussion. What's the point of this forum if no one will discuss the subject matter presented in a subjective manner?
Please lets try to put a bit more time and thought in our comments and don't attack the poster with comments designed to bring down their energy or restrict the discussion to the same ol same old, ok? Just a thought. Peace my friend.

[HORIZONS]

I am getting a bit tired of the same old argument that TPTB are doing this or that and thats the end of that and your view is not worthy of anymore discussion. What's the point of this forum if no one will discuss the subject matter presented in a subjective manner?
Please lets try to put a bit more time and thought in our comments and don't attack the poster with comments designed to bring down their energy or restrict the discussion to the same ol same old, ok? Just a thought. Peace my friend.

Good thought - thanks for stating it! :thumb:

[Elandiel BernElve]

The man has got some courage.
Surrounded by superpowers with nucleair weapons who suspect him of having them as well. Now who's the bully?
Iran is one of the most beautiful countries with beautiful people. It's the cradle of our civilization in some way.
I think Ahmadinejad is the last man standing not under NWO control. What a bunch of US hypocrites leaving the room when faced with the truth.
On the other hand the man holds his country under tight islamic control. It's said, as Iran originally wasn't islamic at all and a lot of their rich history is overshadowed by totalitarian facets of this islamic regime.

[Operator]

No-one that is part of power structure is really interested in liberty/freedom. All else, including beliefs, is powerplay.

Yes, it is all like a game ... so let's play and play it well

[Eric J (Viking)]

Now I have had the benefit from the full speech!!! I think its a great speech!!

Thanks Studio... have you seen how many hits its had since!!!

edit...
Just to inform folks the speech posted by Rhianna was last years speech.

This is the latest...which is a bit more in depth


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me_nyYkKJMk

viking

[Rhiannon]

oh really? .. oops.. i'm sorry for that ... but it's a good one anyway :)

[Eric J (Viking)]

oh really? .. oops.. i'm sorry for that ... but it's a good one anyway :)

Yes it was, very...no worries it was worth posting to those that hadn't heard it!!! Perhaps thats why he get sooo much stick from the warmongers!!!

The latest here


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me_nyYkKJMk

viking

[Rhiannon]

the full speech here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4phNuwx8Hs

[THIRDEYE]

hello all im a bit bewildered about iran and why the u.s. and isreal want to attackm...this is a true statement the united satse has 700 military bases or installations around the world...i wish the power to be and the zionists and isreal will just let these poeple alone,i dont do the politic thing to good however i understand that america is to facilatate a one world order....regan bushes and obama the dirty little puppet scoundrels..what in the world is america doing they can use this military industrial agendas to help our fellow americans with no insurance or for the homeless.stop sending our manufacturing plants out of the cointry to help americans in getting fair employment...not to mention helping 3rd world countrys with famine and medical issues this whole establishment and the nwo initiaters just have to be defeated and have there walls crumbling down!!!war is about money and polictical and military agendas I was reading about the galactic federation saying beforew we destroy our species and the planet they will reneder all weapons of war useless i pray for the day that all men and women in all the worlds militarys will just set down there weapons and come home and live in peace!!!!love,light and abundance...thirdeye

[Zook]

Hi Rhiannon,

I trust no existing government ... anywhere ... nor of any level. However, should I start trusting government again, Ahmadinejad would be a good place to start. He appears to be a good soul trapped in the global net of geopolitics. To the bevy of Zionist zoologia that shunned the condemning truth; that opted for the pauper waddle over princely reflection ... truth is on the march! It will meet you flush no matter which road you pick to steal away on.


Cheers
Uncle Zook

[Luke]

SaiCO Armadiniejad is not playing the roll of "bad guy" if he advocates equallity and justice.
Hmm. I do not quite follow logic here.
Well known thief and murderer, leading established guild, is calling job made by concurrent guild a job. What is surprising about that?
Especially when we consider that guild that he calls foul on is searching an excuse to make turf war against his own guild.
And thief and murderer TALKING about equality and justice .. do I see discrepancy here?

Also how one guild leader smearing other guild leaders is an evidence that he is not a member of "council of thieves & assassins guilds leaders" ?

But OK, I'm just an extremist that thinks ALL the so called "word leaders" and "statesmen" are thieves, murderers or accomplices in those crimes.

[MariaDine]

How can we all «jump» out of this «picture» ?

Although a man in a difficult position, a speaker for the real rulers, Ahmadinejad seems to me that he is a man who's not stupid in the sense, he tries to fence for himself.
But neither he or us have all the «pieces» of Info.
Both Ahmadinejad and us are fed, only what is safe to know to keep the «black and white» chess game going... WAR, that is !!!

My hope is that all of us (avalonian) see through this «human theatre». A play, this play, which is addictive for those who join/watch the «play».

For those ,who keep their «center» , they must realize that «this play» is taking place because one need's to acknowldge that we must, as best we can, to surpass (surmount ) our pre concepts.

We may be miles away...but what we think, our opinion , no matter if you think it is not significant, makes a «dent» (has an effect) in the world global 'egregore'.

You are what you think...remember ? Please, try to view this «play» as a lesson for your behalf. Do your «homework». Ask yourself, why, where and with what do I identified myself with this issue ???


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Ahmedinejad................He is right about the propaganda machine. From what we already know, «official versions» are not what they used to be.......the truth ....... LOL !
Deceit is common currency, nowadays... so we can't even trust the ones we elect ,because we already know that they get caught up in the «political machine».







Love
MD

[Zook]

Hi Studeo,


Thank you Rhiannon. One of the best speeches i've heared to come out of the UN. SaiCO Armadiniejad is not playing the roll of "bad guy" if he advocates equallity and justice. Nothing he said seemed confrontational or the ranting of a mad man.

I, for one, don't necessarily disagree with you. I just have a hard time trusting governments anywhere. Mossadegh was deposed by the western oligarchy. Reza Pahlavi and Ayotullah Khomeni were both western intelligence plants. I really don't know much about Ahmadinejad. I like him; but how are we to be sure that he's not playing a part in a play scripted by the TPTB? Time will tell I guess.



I am getting a bit tired of the same old argument that TPTB are doing this or that and thats the end of that and your view is not worthy of anymore discussion. What's the point of this forum if no one will discuss the subject matter presented in a subjective manner? Please lets try to put a bit more time and thought in our comments and don't attack the poster with comments designed to bring down their energy or restrict the discussion to the same ol same old, ok? Just a thought. Peace my friend.

It would help if you would add your own thoughts whenever you post an article from the sundry MSM. Most of the time when I read your stuff, I'm left wondering what exactly are you trying to convey? Are you promoting the TPTB lies? Or are you trying to make Avalonians aware of what the TPTB are up to? If it's the latter, I heartily commend you. A disclaimer of some sort would help in this regard. Anyways, I apologize if my posts in the past made it seem like I was attacking you. That is certainly not my mention. I'm just trying to get at the truth; to that end, clarity goes a long way. Peace.


Cheers
Uncle Zook

[MariaDine]

Tss...Tss................. Truth is like a Diamant Facets Stone ...........you can see all sides at the same time !!! LOL :)

[Operator]

Well known thief and murderer, leading established guild, is calling job made by concurrent guild a job.

There is a saying "With crooks you catch crooks" ... so even if you're right in your point of view ... he's not less suitable to crack the case
of 9/11 widely open. I agree that we shouldn't make the mistake of blindly worshiping liberators that potentially are the next dictators etc.

[Peace of Mind]

If someone told me I was responsible for 9/11…in front of many important people…I would defend my honor, words, and country men by demanding facts. Getting up and walking away every time the issue comes up will only make me look more suspect. If I know I’m right, why would I worry? Why wouldn’t I comment? Such accusations demand more than a walk out. That’s just real cowardly and leads me to think you rather walk away and stay hush before some of the truth accidently slips out. The walk outs should be illegal. These politicians should speak more on this issue and stop dodging it, more so, the people should take notice and request to hear more of what both sides have to say about it. Tax payers are the real bosses; they need to start acting like it and demand that this silence is broken…

Peace

[Sarahmay]

I listened to most of this speech last night...he not only calls the US out on the 9/11 attack (that either they planned it and did it, OR they knew about it and didn't stop it)...then he went on to talk about the colonialism, greed and materialism which motivated the attack. Later on, he talks about how mankind should be loving toward one another and stop the wars, and that all nuclear weapons should be banned worldwide.

Honestly, he made more sense than any politician I'd heard in a long time...it was a very high vibrational speech, inspiring and truthful. And of course all of the western countries stormed out of the room, and today Obama criticizes the speech. Sigh. The world is turned upside down, when I am siding with Muslim extremists. But so it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpAIHLsTkjo

[norman]

YES!.....

BUT!.....

The fake indignation from Obama and Cameron makes me wonder what's coming up next sooner rather than later. Of course, they HAVE to stick to their prepared lie. Anything else would start the unravelling of it. My twitchy solar plexus hints to me that Ahmadinejad might have actually started the war by forcing the crooks to respond "firmly" to his "outragious" suggestion that they might actually BE crooks!..hah...

I caught a soundbite or two of the Obama and Cameron responses to him on the BBC last night. I had no indication from that propaganda mill of what he'd actually said. This YouTube video "says" it's only had 114 views so far. I've sent a link for it to several of my email contacts who I know tend to believe everything they see and hear in the corporate fascist media. It's a constant struggle trying to keep such people from hitting the SNOOZE button, and all I get for it is condemnation to the 'leper' colony outside their walled minds.

[Beth]

Merged threads, already had one going Sarahmay.

[Sarahmay]

Merged threads, already had one going Sarahmay.

Thanks, I couldn't find a thread but I couldn't believe there wasn't one already.

[Beth]

Thanks, I couldn't find a thread but I couldn't believe there wasn't one already.

You're welcome :)

[RedeZra]

the whole world is not united yet

there are nations opposing the NWO n not just for play but for real

the NWO is strong in the Western world n Japan

this scheme seems to have come somewhat out of control as the plan was to secure a homeland and then it kinda escalated into... why not make the whole world a homeland ?

'what you think we can pull that off ?'

'well we can try ??'

[Samothrace]

If someone told me I was responsible for 9/11…in front of many important people…I would defend my honor, words, and country men by demanding facts. Getting up and walking away every time the issue comes up will only make me look more suspect. If I know I’m right, why would I worry? Why wouldn’t I comment? Such accusations demand more than a walk out. That’s just real cowardly and leads me to think you rather walk away and stay hush before some of the truth accidently slips out. The walk outs should be illegal. These politicians should speak more on this issue and stop dodging it, more so, the people should take notice and request to hear more of what both sides have to say about it. Tax payers are the real bosses; they need to start acting like it and demand that this silence is broken…

Peace

Walking away is a strong statement. It allowed them to marginalize the incident and the message by implying that it wasn't worth a response. Which is kind of what they want. Right?

If they had attempted an actual dialogue, then that would be the news story. Instead the typical story played by the media "Hey this crazy dictator who hates you was ranting at the UN, did we mention how crazy he is? Yeah he is crazy, also very dangerous, be afraid."

I remember when Ahmadinejad was on Larry King. King asked him about his denial of the Holocaust. Ahmadinejad wouldn't give a straight answer, but by watching him you could tell that he didn't really believe what he had said. Most of the speeches he gives are aimed at appealing to his own people or the establishment within Iran, which explains a lot of the comments the media tends to pick apart.

I think the audience, though, for this one wasn't really the UN delegates, but the people of the countries they represent. So it doesn't really matter what those people did. He knew they weren't the ones who were going to listen anyways. That said, I'm not sure his actions really reflect these words, which really makes it look as if the pot is calling the kettle black.

[fourfingerz]

'No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it."
Albert Einstein

His speech and the response to it are all part of the "PLAY". I believe we should monitor the PLAY but not get too involved (as best we can - David Icke and his advice of non-co-operation). I think that analyzing the scene by scene events "He's right - they're wrong - no they're right - he's wrong" just perpetuates the energy that gave us 9-11 in the first place.

Remember - I'm rooting for you - we're all in this together

fourfingerz

[sjkted]

I'm starting to like this guy... Check out his speech at the UN:

k4phNuwx8Hs

--sjkted

[Rocky_Shorz]

everyone likes the little chimp...

the world's just waiting for him to find a new organ grinder...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Iran isn't being affected by current sanctions, but the President is promoting ride sharing...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=3244&d=1292180934

[Rocky_Shorz]

a lot happening in Iran today, the President fired the foreign Minister and the Regime's envoy to the swiss disappeared with information on the Nuclear program...


Dismissal of mullahs’ foreign minister Mottaki, echo Khamenei’s loss of hegemony, a tremor within faltering regime

Futile attempt to blame the regime’s international failures on Mottaki in face of the Iranian Resistance

NCRI - Mrs. Maryam Rajavi, President-elect of the Iranian Resistance, described sudden dismissal of the regime’s foreign minister, Manouchehr Mottaki, by Ahmadinejad as sign of Ali Khamenei’s loss of hegemony and clout, heightening of internal rift and the result of tremor within the clerical regime in its faltering state.



She said: The clerical regime’s internal crisis over its nuclear programs, imposition of international sanctions, emphasis of countries in the region on the need to overthrow the regime - unveiled in recent revelations - and successive failures of the regime in face of the Iranian Resistance on the international level, as well as widespread growing support for the residents of Ashraf, members of the PMOI/MEK, are among the main reasons of Mottaki’s dismissal.

The hurriedly firing of the regime’s foreign minister, while on an official visit to African countries, is a futile attempt by the regime to explain its failures and blame them on Mottaki. The succession of failures of the regime has heightened the internal crisis that will be followed by string of failures to come.

the link (http://www.ncr-iran.org/en/ncri-statements/president-elect/9454-dismissal-of-mullahs-foreign-minister-mottaki-echo-khameneis-loss-of-hegemony-a-tremor-within-faltering-regime)


Regime envoy to Switzerland disappeared with intelligence


NCRI - A former regime ambassador to Switzerland, who was also a senior member of the regime’s negotiating team for nuclear talks, has not returned to Iran and taken loads of information with him, a state-run media has reported.

The state-run Jahan News said Sirous Naseri “who was part of the Hassan Rohani team, has never returned to the country and has taken intelligence with him.”

It added that another official, “Moussavian, is also accused by the intelligence ministry of handing over nuclear intelligence to westerners.”

Jahan News derided Hassan Rohani’s negotiating team and said, “The achievements of this team was to accept all of the West’s conditions. It accepted to close Natanz and UCF, suspended nuclear activities and according to statements by the western side, it even accepted to suspend nuclear activities for 10 years.”

story link (http://www.ncr-iran.org/en/news/nuclear/9451-regime-envoy-to-switzerland-disappeared-with-intelligence)