Infowars melt down

[Referee]

David Ortiz fired Aaron Dykes and Melissa Melton leave as well.....

MEZaOiImeYk

What is going on at Infowars?

[jagman]

Ref, Have you got any guesses on what happened?

[Referee]

Not a clue...

[Referee]

Maybe it is this just an educated guess. 1:24.00 minuets Ben Swann

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[christian]

It was quite massive when Alex hired all these new reporters. It was quite probable right from the beginning that not everyone would eventually stay, I figure. I hope they don't wash too much dirty laundry now. I guess it's not like Ortiz got abused or sabotaged in his life by Alex. Why the other two have left, well you could start coffee cup reading. Solidarity, seizing the opportunity to create a buzz around yourself while you create something new, being worn out, ...

[Akasha]

For me, watching Alex Jones over the years has always been infuriating: imagine working for the guy! Alternatively, maybe they just had a Beyond Tangy Tangerine (http://infowarshealth.com/) overdose!

[Airwooz]

Maybe AJ's water filter is selling bad so he has to save some budget...

I watching his show from time to time, the program is packaging so well, better than most of the alternative media. I always wondering where he got his funding to run the show.

[Mulder]

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[Fred Steeves]

David Ortiz fired Aaron Dykes and Melissa Melton leave as well.....

MEZaOiImeYk

What is going on at Infowars?

It comes across like a tease piece for a new alternative soap opera, cute blond and all.(LOL) Just what the doctor ordered, more drama from the world of Alex. :doh:

Below is a tried and true format. Nice little floaty theme song, the cast of characters in action...Artfully slipping in a roided out guy sporting black body armor would be the cat's meow.
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[spiritguide]

Just ongoing battles in the mind control war. Truth emerges from the pressure cooker once the pressure releases. Be aware that change is constant and the main objective is to rattle harmonious thought. IMHO

[DevilPigeon]

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I find it strange that (as alluded to at the end of the short video in post #1) there should be a need for a "non-disclosure clause" in what should be a transparent truth-telling investigative operation...

[northstar]

Although I am interested in what he has to say I cannot watch more than a few minutes of Alex Jones on video. His voice is grating and his energy is discordant.

My logical left brain is interested in his message but my spiritual discernment says "there is nothing here for me"

[ExomatrixTV]

~I hope all of them can resolve it fast & seeking consultancy from some one both sides can agree to trust! a 'Mutual Trusted Neutral Mediator'. There is a risk that people say things in the heat of the moment they later regret. Part of the problem in communications is that when one is frustrated or heavily disappointed they tend to use exaggerated words/phrases like: "always" "everybody" "nobody" "never" "them" "no one" "the only one" "all of your kind/types" which becomes COUNTER PRODUCTIVE!

cheers,
John Kuhles

[happyuk]

I too have my doubts about Alex Jones. I think William Cooper was right about him.
His boorishness and belligerence grate after a short while. Plus I agree with the other posters in questioning his source of funding.
He comes across as too much of doom monger for my liking. Anyone remember his Y2K nonsense?
The point is if you let the likes of him influence you in anger, fear and negativity, and thus obliterate any sense of peace and spirituality you might have had, then you are playing right into the PTB's hands.
A rule of thunb ought to be to distrust anyone that leaves you feeling exhausted, irritated, fearful and confused, as these people (energy vampires) will simply suck you dry.

[christian]

I actually find that most of the info Alex presents is not new to me, but I love the way he crystallizes it and his passion, he could read me a phone book and I would find it invigorating. It's been countless times that I found myself making war growls or raising my fists when I listened to Alex, I mean literally. To me personally he's one of the greatest motivational speakers out there, plus very entertaining.

This is what John Mack wrote in his biography of T.E. Lawrence, I found it actually in Myron Sharaf's biography of Wilhelm Reich (http://de.scribd.com/doc/107518680/Sharaf-Myron-Fury-on-Earth-A-Biography-of-Wilhelm-Reich). Sharaf thought it could be applied to Reich and I think it can also be applied to Alex:




When I presented "psychological material" about Lawrence at conferences or meetings, my audience would inevitably offer interpretations about his psychopathology which, however accurate they may have been, left me always feeling that they had not seen Lawrence as I knew him to have been. In reading other psychological studies of historical figures I found myself becoming impatient with the failure of their authors to come to grips with the salient fact of unusual accomplishment, and kept registering the same objection that Lawrence himself had made when he commented upon a biographical essay about a famous general: that the article "left out of him his greatness — an extraordinary fellow he was."

A couple of days ago Alex posted a more calm and reflecting message, admitting his shortcomings and conveying what it's all about. I think he's spot-on.

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[Akasha]

.........I always wondering where he got his funding to run the show.

Nathanael Kapner links Jones to various zionists in this article (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=413) from 2009.

[PathWalker]

I always wondering where he got his funding to run the show.

It is easy to identify controlled opposition with the forbidden issues they cannot deal with.
With inforwars case. They are not allowed to talk about:
1. Black project + forbidden technology.
2. Vatican and Jesuit power/control (Zionist instead are the scape goat).
3. Fear mongering and victim perception, without spiritual empowering (e.g David Icke)

He is absolutely controlled opposition. It is possible he is not aware of it. But there are NO NO subject for him as well.
There is a place and honorable merit for controlled opposition as well.

[christian]

I always wondering where he got his funding to run the show.

It is easy to identify controlled opposition with the forbidden issues they cannot deal with.
With inforwars case. They are not allowed to talk about:
1. Black project + forbidden technology.
2. Vatican and Jesuit power/control (Zionist instead are the scape goat).
3. Fear mongering and victim perception, without spiritual empowering (e.g David Icke)

He is talking about Black Projects and forbidden technology, just recently he said it's been declassified that the elites have anti-gravity technology. He had said before they could stage an ET landing with black ops technology and let a genetically altered human walk out of a UFO on the White House lawn proclaiming whatever. He also talked about how he knows that the secret space program is incredibly much larger than what NASA does, and that a giant number of astronauts died in that.

He did talk about the Vatican, the Zionists, and the Jesuits, just search for it, you will find that he adressed it and that it is his opinion that it's simply not very yielding to focus on that while there are many other things to cover. He cannot do it all anyways, hey, if you want to see the info about the Vatican and the Jesuits being spread, why don't you do it? I never really got what the deal is with them anyways, I hear people calling them out, but for what actually? I mean, I know that they are surely massively corrupt, but can anyone paint a clear picture there, something that would really benefit people if they would know it? If so, please go ahead. For now, I think it's important for people to get the basics straight, i.e. money creation, false flags, etc.

The alleged fear mongering thing is something I could not agree with less. I never felt a bit of fear when listening to Alex, it's absolutely the opposite. I feel encouraged, I have a desire to look the devil in the eye, I want to find him so I can shower him with love. Alex regularly talks about spirituality as well, about love, decency, lifting others up, and all the rest of it. He does have David Icke on regularly, and they usually find themselves in agreement on the spiritual things. He had Billy Corgan on who expanded massively on the need for a spiritual revolution, Alex called it one of the greatest interviews he ever did. Gerald Celente talked about a spiritual revolution on his show as well. Alex is a very spiritual person in my opinion. Admittely, I would maybe personally have a style that would be a little different, I'd invite even more spiritual speakers, but that's what I'm saying from the sidelines. I don't like it when people look at someone who's in the ring from the sidelines, demanding that he should do more this and more that while they don't step in the ring themselves. Walk a mile in his shoes...

How he funds his operation, well there are the subscribers, there are ads/affiliates and there's the infowars shop, not too bad for a start, I guess. Especially if you research how he started it doesn't seem like he was being funded at all. But maybe you'd say that was part of the plan, to give him some street credibility? Conspiracies under every rock...

"The Spiritual Awakening"
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[PathWalker]

I always wondering where he got his funding to run the show.

It is easy to identify controlled opposition with the forbidden issues they cannot deal with.
With inforwars case. They are not allowed to talk about:
1. Black project + forbidden technology.
2. Vatican and Jesuit power/control (Zionist instead are the scape goat).
3. Fear mongering and victim perception, without spiritual empowering (e.g David Icke)

He is talking about Black Projects and forbidden technology,


He did talk about the Vatican, the Zionists, and the Jesuits, just search for it


The alleged fear mongering thing is something I could not agree with less. I never felt a bit of fear when listening to Alex, it's absolutely the opposite. I feel encouraged, I have a desire to look the devil in the eye, I want to find him so I can shower him with love. Alex regularly talks about spirituality as well, about love, decency, lifting others up, and all the rest of it. He does have David Icke on regularly, and they usually find themselves in agreement on the spiritual things.

Thank you for illuminating this thread about Alex Jones.
I regularly review http://www.prisontplanet.com and I base the above post on my experience with this site.
I am not an Alex Jones fan, therefore I do not listen to his interviews.

I will greatly appreciate if you find any of the mentioned above in his sites: http://www.infowars.com and http://www.prisonplanet.com

[Hervé]

Well, through marital union, Alex joined this crowd:

From http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/03/31/hollywood-goes-jewish/:

Hollywood Goes Jewish

for whither thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God:—Ruth 1:16
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By www.roytov.com (http://www.roytov.com)

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“Roi Tov is a fool! Hollywood has always been a Jewish stronghold!” Some will say after taking a quick look at this page. Yet, this article doesn’t analyze who runs Hollywood, but a perceived increase in the conversions to Judaism among Hollywood stars. Before ADL (http://www.roitov.com/articles/adl.htm) lawyers send me a polite, but nasty, letter, let me state explicitly the origin of the claims about Hollywood quoted here.

Yediot Ahronot (“Latest News”) is the largest paid Hebrew newspaper; its online version is ynet.co.il. The online version runs a secondary site named “Xnet.” For Passover 2013, the latter published an article in Hebrew titled “From Drew Barrymore to Mila Kunis: Judaism Hollywood-Style (http://www.xnet.co.il/xo/articles/0,14718,L-3100203,00.html?dcMaa=1).” As always, I keep copies of the articles, their codes, and screen snapshots. ADL, sue them, not me.

The article’s subtitle was far more engaging that its title since it discloses the Israeli current mindset: “While you dream about Santa Claus and his bag of gifts, Hollywood’s hottest gadget is ‘Jew.’ Everybody wants one at home. Who converted, who only keeps the Shabbat, and who shaved her head and wears a wig? Converting to Judaism has never been so hot.”


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MI6 (http://www.roitov.com/articles/mi6.htm) or Mossad? Quantum of Solace (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001VIMCW4/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001VIMCW4&linkCode=as2&tag=roto-20)




http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=roto-20&l=as2&o=1&a=B001VIMCW4
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Hollywood Jewish Collage according to Yediot Ahronoth




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Tila Tequila Jewish-Rated Industry Rabbi Shlomo Goren: Torah Sage and General (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/9657108810/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=9657108810&linkCode=as2&tag=roto-20)http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=roto-20&l=as2&o=1&a=9657108810

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The Price of Hollywoodian Stardom

“Gyur” is the Hebrew name for conversion to Judaism. “Ger” is a converting man; “gyoret” is a woman. By far, the most famous convert was Ruth (see box at the bottom), who even deserved a charming little book in the Bible. Unlike Christianity and Islam, Judaism doesn’t welcome converts. Unlike the described in the Book of Ruth, nowadays Jews place many obstacles among those wanting to convert, including humiliating rites. The most discouraging obstacle is that they would never be allowed into Orthodoxy; Tila Tequila won’t marry Rabbi Goren’s grandson. Moreover, Conservative and Reform conversions—popular in the USA—are not recognized by the State of Israel.



Xnet rated the conversions of Hollywood stars in a system of Stars of David. Five Stars of David refer to a perfectly kosher conversion. Poor Tila Tequila was rated just one star, “so what if she makes money by showing her breasts, also Rahab [a Biblical whore] wasn’t exactly Roni Delomi [a puritan singer].” Tila said to TMZ, “I can’t wait to be Jewish.”



The Price of Hollywoodian Marriage

Full article: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/03/31/hollywood-goes-jewish/

[BrianEn]

I don't really care much for the drama in the alternative community. Everyone has something to say about someone. Whether true or not it still distracts me. A lot of people say a lot about Alex, but I still like him. I've heard talk about David Icke, Bill and Kerry, Jordan Maxwell so on and so forth.
This radio show reminds of something I heard once that really disparaged on Bill. I knew a little bit of the backstory to know this was nothing more than a hit piece. It really helps if I see things for myself. Other than speculating doesn't help.

[christian]

I will greatly appreciate if you find any of the mentioned above in his sites: http://www.infowars.com and http://www.prisonplanet.com

I already have, like I said. You're welcome. :)


Well, through marital union, Alex joined this crowd:

From http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/03/31/hollywood-goes-jewish/:

Hollywood Goes Jewish

Alex is part of the Jewish crowd because his wife is Jewish? They regularly go to Christian churches, from what Alex says on his show, his wife is even suggesting churches to check them out. Anyways, what does the fact that Alex or his wife have been born into a particular religion have to do with anything really?

[Referee]

David Ortiz fired Aaron Dykes and Melissa Melton leave as well.....

MEZaOiImeYk

What is going on at Infowars?

It comes across like a tease piece for a new alternative soap opera, cute blond and all.(LOL) Just what the doctor ordered, more drama from the world of Alex. :doh:

Below is a tried and true format. Nice little floaty theme song, the cast of characters in action...Artfully slipping in a roided out guy sporting black body armor would be the cat's meow.
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IMO Linda West is a trusted source former MSM reporter.

[christian]

IMO Linda West is a trusted source former MSM reporter.

Linda West has even been part of the crew of the new reporters that Alex hired. She was running several operations at that time already, Alex described her as a successful business woman, and it seemed clear from the beginning that she would not spend that much time working for infowars. She did a couple of video reports and so on anyways.

[Fred Steeves]

David Ortiz fired Aaron Dykes and Melissa Melton leave as well.....

MEZaOiImeYk

What is going on at Infowars?

It comes across like a tease piece for a new alternative soap opera, cute blond and all.(LOL) Just what the doctor ordered, more drama from the world of Alex. :doh:

Below is a tried and true format. Nice little floaty theme song, the cast of characters in action...Artfully slipping in a roided out guy sporting black body armor would be the cat's meow.
tbwVYg93Ccg

IMO Linda West is a trusted source former MSM reporter.

That's cool, and just to be clear I'm not accusing anyone of anything. ANY one of us as we all well know (of course yours truly included), can get roped into drama. Besides, I'm not inclined to argue with the "refs" any more (LOL), just to call em like I see em myself. :)

Cheers!
Fred

[Deej]

Drama... too much Drama. :yawn:

[Akasha]

........Anyways, what does the fact that Alex or his wife have been born into a particular religion have to do with anything really?

Their talmudic obligation to treat the goyim as the cattle that they perceive them/us to be, perhaps?

[ghostrider]

Do what I say or ... your fireddddddddddddddddddddddddd duh ... it's just that simple ... control of information is clamping down ...stick to the script or we will get some new actors...

[gripreaper]

........Anyways, what does the fact that Alex or his wife have been born into a particular religion have to do with anything really?

Their talmudic obligation to treat the goyim as the cattle that they perceive them/us to be, perhaps?

Yes, perhaps... ;)

[christian]

........Anyways, what does the fact that Alex or his wife have been born into a particular religion have to do with anything really?

Their talmudic obligation to treat the goyim as the cattle that they perceive them/us to be, perhaps?

So everybody who was born into a Jewish family feels compelled to treat goyim (non-Jews) as cattle? You must be joking.

If his wife would be a strict adherent to the Talmud, she couldn't have married Alex in the first place, see Kiddushin 68b (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interfaith_marriage_in_Judaism).

[Akasha]

I always wondering where he got his funding to run the show.

It is easy to identify controlled opposition with the forbidden issues they cannot deal with.
With inforwars case. They are not allowed to talk about:
...........Vatican and Jesuit power/control (Zionist instead are the scape goat).............

I would disagree about zionists being the scape goat. It's those "goddam globalists" he's always got his sights on. He very seldom mentions the Z word, but i totally agree about the jesuit aspect. They are completely off his radar, even though it's no secret that they have, more often than not, directed the CIA since its inception.

[Akasha]

........Anyways, what does the fact that Alex or his wife have been born into a particular religion have to do with anything really?

Their talmudic obligation to treat the goyim as the cattle that they perceive them/us to be, perhaps?

So everybody who was born into a Jewish family feels compelled to treat goyim (non-Jews) as cattle? You must be joking.

If his wife would be a strict adherent to the Talmud, she couldn't have married Alex in the first place, see Kiddushin 68b (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interfaith_marriage_in_Judaism).

I'm saying it's their talmudic obligation. That doesn't mean they have to respect it though.

Being born into any form of archaic dogma is just another universal opportunity to practise ascension. Whether one does or not is the question.

[Mu2143]

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[marlowe]

........Anyways, what does the fact that Alex or his wife have been born into a particular religion have to do with anything really?

Their talmudic obligation to treat the goyim as the cattle that they perceive them/us to be, perhaps?

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/fabled-enemies

Alex Jones produced & financed the documentary Fabled Enemies.....It documents Israel's involvement in 9/11....It was directed by Jason Bermas....

Alex does talk about Zionism from time to time....just not every day as some would like.....

The word { "perhaps ?} with the question mark ......that is put at tha end of the post.......seems like he doesn't really KNOW......just sort of hinting at something that isn't really true.....in my humble opinion.....

[turiya]

.........I always wondering where he got his funding to run the show.
Nathanael Kapner links Jones to various zionists in this article (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=413) from 2009.
Keep in mind, its been a few years, and also, not to forget to say that we are all here to learn from living a life, as nobody comes into this world knowing all the answers. This firing of Ortiz reminds me of something that happened to Michael Rivero. Mike now works at RBN JustinTV Radio, and previously being with GCN. Mind also, that Mike Rivero was forced to leave GCN due to the canceling of many of his show dates - in other words he got booted... over something he had said regarding the Zionist State of Israel.







Sunday, August 1, 2010
Alex Jones Banishes Mike Rivero
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Jones and his handlers decide Michael Rivero must go. Not only from the Jones radio sideshow but from the GCN network as well. AJ waves his 'magic' zionist flag and makes things disappear.

Announcement from Mike ...

"I have just been informed by the Alex Jones show that they are canceling my monthly interviews commencing this coming Tuesday. Imagine my shock and disappointment. No, really, just imagine it!"

A little more info from Mike ...

WRH: "I have not made a big deal about the reasons for the move, but in a nutshell, GCN is a reflection of Alex Jones' views of the world, and more and more our points of view regarding Israel are diverging. I get a lot of email asking why I do not challenge Alex on his defense of Israel, or asking why every time I am on his show Alex feels obligated to have a pro-Israel representative on immediately afterwards to counter the points that I made.

I view the attack by Israel on a US flagged ship and Americans in international waters as an act of war and all who defend said attack as traitors to the USA. Alex holds a different view and I guess the breaking point was his rant in which he said that anyone who is a critic of Israel is a "weak-minded fool". That made it a personal attack, and I decided it was time to step out of Alex's shadow and go in a different direction."
Looks like a good thing to me. Keeping a good distance from AJ will be for the best in the long run. Maybe Mike will quit linking anything from the Jones world. Not to retaliate but just to be on the side of good taste.

I think most of us will have some disagreements with Rivero on certain issues, that's to be expected when folks are passionate about finding truth, but once again the bottom line is whether one has the courage to challenge Israel, their lobbyists and supporters in the media and both in and out of government Doing so can be dangerous to your health ... both economically and possibly otherwise.

Be sure to read the comments section: Source: http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2010/08/alex-jones-banishes-mike-rivero.html

Christian wrote:

He did talk about the Vatican, the Zionists, and the Jesuits, just search for it, you will find that he adressed it and that it is his opinion that it's simply not very yielding to focus on that while there are many other things to cover. He cannot do it all anyways, hey, if you want to see the info about the Vatican and the Jesuits being spread, why don't you do it? I never really got what the deal is with them anyways, I hear people calling them out, but for what actually? I mean, I know that they are surely massively corrupt, but can anyone paint a clear picture there, something that would really benefit people if they would know it? If so, please go ahead. For now, I think it's important for people to get the basics straight, i.e. money creation, false flags, etc.
Now, it seems to me that the Zionist Israel/Jewish issue can be quite a confusing quagmire mess to figure out. Obviously, at least in my opinion, it is purposely meant to be kept confusing. One needs to be quite discerning & discriminating in trying to figure out wtf is up with this. The above piece was published in 2010, much water has gone down the Ganges since then. For one thing I've noticed with Alex, he is constantly in flux in his understanding of some of the issues he brings on his show. For example, years ago he would have refused to have even considered talking about all things UFO-ish & transhumanistic. Lines are getting more blurred. He did criticize David Icke quite harshly in the past, but it appears to me that he is sounding more & more like David Icke now than in days past. Now, this is normal - one should change one's thinking as one moves forward in understanding.

For those interested, I do believe the following video clears up alot of the clutter between Christianity, Judaism & what is called Zionism. Curiously enough, the man is a scholar of Islam. Often times, one needs to give a bit of distance to be able to distinguish the forest from the trees.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNnIC6dkpoI

Regards - turiya :cool:

[Airwooz]

Alex did cover various subject...mostly economic and political issues, I found him partially accepted David Icke's theories recently. He exposure Bohemian grove before, so i don't know william cooper's criticize from what bases? Maybe he's lound voice is too aggressive for some people...

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I wonder if the schism has something to do with the recent happenings in Rome...

[marlowe]

It could be something simple like he was sexually harrasing someone in the office....he could be on drugs....it could be any number of things....People are human & they have weaknesses.....
Maybe it will come out as more time passes.......

Somehow I don't think it's about ideology......

I think it was probably something typical that "ordinary" people get let go for.....

[Referee]

I have a feeling there may be a move to bring in Ben Swaan and that upset everyone. Just my thoughts..

[marlowe]

FWIW....I met Alex Jones when he was 15 years old....My then girlfriend had been very close to his mother since college...I started listening to AJ radio show

a few weeks after he got on air.....I used to listen to AJ almost every day...a few years ago a caller suggested that AJ should go on internet TV.....AJ said it was too expensive,,,a short time later a person set up a fund raiser for AJ and collected a lot of money...So AJ moved to a new office and started

working on the idea of a TV show....after that AJ had 1 or 2 fund raisers a year....he usually collects 3/4 of a million dollars per fund raiser.......

The original reason for getting on radio was to genertate money to make documentaries....& AJ has made at least 25 docs..I have lost count....
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Here is my personal opinion as to why AJ is "weird" about Israel......
AJ has 3 children and he gets a lot of death threats....I believe AJ is afraid something bad will happen to his children,his sister,his parents ,or himself if he

attacks Israel/Zionism in a BIG WAY.....So he talks about Israel once in a while...

but doesn't make it a top priority....

AJ goes to a Methodist church...His parents don't go to church & AJ was not brought up in a religious enviroment..........
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I personally believe Israel is not going to exist in 10 years....Maybe AJ will

alter his religious beliefs if this happens...
To be honest,,I think Christianity is AJ's blind spot....But the guy is a human being and nobody is perfect,,,..Frankly ,anybody in AJ's position is very brave and has a death wish...{>>>imho}...Like Travis at the Alamo,AJ will probably die with his boots on....

[jackovesk]

Timewaster I am not
Commonsense no more

Requester thines own council - (never they say)
Madness of one's own sheer induldgement
Superfluous to thines own belligerence

What more can I say...


I am a Truthseeker and after listening to AJ for over 10 years, I would be the 1st to expose Alex if I for (1) second thought he was a fraud...:yes4:


Where thines own research..?

To the Alex Haters (The Man who has bought more 'Truth' out to the masses more than any (1) individual on the planet)...

I leave you with this statement...


Chuck any rational (Research) Out the Window - Innuendo is enough, it (Completes Me)...

So (Wah!On) all you like for I won't be wasting any more of my time on meaningless time wasting banter...:nono:



He's :director: (Too Loud)
He's had a Beyond Tangy Tangerine overdose
His water filter is selling bad
He's too angry
His voice is grating and his energy is discordant
Where did he get his funding to run the show
He's a Zionist
He's Controlled Opposition
Alex is part of the Jewish crowd
Control of information is clamping down
Their talmudic obligation to treat the goyim as the cattle
He was sexually harrasing someone in the office


PS - I could have thrown an even bigger spanner into the works, but I have no (Solid Evidence) to back it up & refuse to play these (He Said - She Said) games any longer...

PSS - Thanks (Christian) for trying to keep this discussion based on the (FACTS), not (INNUENDO)...

PSSS - My soul purpose is to seek out the (TRUTH) no matter where it comes from...

I 'HOPE' people take the 'above' in context and not the wrong way (Nothing Personal)...:nono:

I think our (GUESTS) deserve a little more factual (TRUTH) rather than (INNUENDO)...

Don't you think...?

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ALEX JONES: THE MOST DANGEROUS MAN IN AMERICA

Prison Planet.com
April 13, 2013

http://static.infowars.com/2013/04/i/general/mostdangerous.jpg

Renowned illustrator Anthony Freda has issued a prediction – Alex Jones will soon make it to the cover of TIME magazine.

In a tongue-in-cheek image sent to Infowars.com this week, Freda features Jones on the cover of the weekly magazine founded by Henry Luce, a key figure in the CIA’s successful media takeover, Operation Mockingbird.

THE MOST DANGEROUS MAN IN AMERICA, a headline screams.

Indeed, according to the corporatized establishment media, Alex Jones is near if not at the top of the list of dangerous Americans – dangerous because he is unswerving in his dedication to the Constitution and the founding principles of the republic… principles the elite and their pawns are desperate to destroy along with Jones and millions of others hankering to take back their birthright from a predatory global elite.

Jones was in large part cast as a bad guy by the Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization responsible for demonizing hundreds of activists and portraying them as mentally deranged and violent terrorists, if not lunatic racists bent on taking down Obama due to his accumulation of melanin. According to the organization, another Oklahoma terror act will go down if the government does not immediately convene a McCarthyesque inquisition.

Of course, all this manufactured paranoia is absurd, as the faux cover of TIME comically demonstrates. Alex Jones is not a member of the Aryan Brotherhood or the Ku Klux Klan, organizations routinely portrayed as interchangeable with constitutionalist and patriot organizations and individuals.

Under COINTELPRO, the FBI effectively turned the Klan into a ludicrous shadow of its former self. In fact, as the trial of the racist talk show host Hal Turner in 2009 revealed, it is fair to conclude the government is behind much of what passes for the so-called white supremacist movement in America. Despite this reality, the corporate media continues to trot out the SPLC’s Mark Potok who issues histrionic warnings of a militia apocalypse.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/alex-jones-the-most-dangerous-man-in-america.html

[gripreaper]

I'll just put it this way: If you are a slave stuck in the matrix of fast food, fast news, and fast sex, then you need to be tickled down there in order to get your attention. Anyone who is in the business of selling media, either tickles the first chakra of survival and fear, the second chakra of sexual energy and anger, of the third chakra of power and grief.

These are the negative aspects of the terrestrial chakras, which does not make them "bad". They are just polarized from the positive aspects, and in the paradigm of news, the polarized aspects of our consciousness and our experience is what we focus on and adorn. It is the playground of opposites where we bounce things off our field and attempt to integrate the energy into wholeness.

Myself, once when I was just a happy go lucky asleep slave lost in the matrix, it was Alex Jones who got my attention. I have since outgrown the need to have my terrestrial charkas tickled to wake me up, but I recognize Alex as an important part of the awakening and do not try to filter what he does through the context from which I now embrace my experience.

He's just on a different frequency than I am now. Nothing wrong with that.

[GCS1103]

Alex Jones may have a grating voice, but I believe that the energy and time he puts into his shows is a benefit to those of us who listen to him. He has put himself out there at the Bilderberg meetings, standing in front of people like David Gergen and asking him questions that the main street media would never dare to, showing up at the Bohemian Grove and filming their ritual. I give him credit for doing what others only write about. As far as his funding...what's the difference between him and David Icke? (who I listen to, as well) You may, or may not know this, but David Icke is a multi-millionaire. He earns his money by selling his product, charging for his conferences, etc., just like anyone else in this business. Being a good businessman and also having a powerful, truthful message are not mutually exclusive.

The money they earn, or funding they get (like donations) doesn't translate into "disinfo agent". I've seen on this forum, every now and then, individuals making accusations about various people like David Icke, Bob Dean, etc. with no proof whatsoever. Now we have Alex Jones as a bad guy because he had the audacity to marry a Jewish woman, and he's joined the Hollywood/Jewish crowd, "through marital union". It's silly, at best. If you don't like Alex Jones, that's your right; don't listen to him. But don't smear the guy with innuendos and half-truths especially if you cannot back up the accusations with fact.

[Limor Wolf]

Originally posted by GCS1103: "Alex Jones may have a grating voice, but I believe that the energy and time he puts into his shows is a benefit to those of us who listen to him. He has put himself out there at the Bilderberg meetings, standing in front of people like David Gergen and asking him questions that the main street media would never dare to, showing up at the Bohemian Grove and filming their ritual. I give him credit for doing what others only write about."

Hi Goldie ~ I certainly share your view above


Originally posted by GCS1103: " You may, or may not know this, but David Icke is a multi-millionaire. He earns his money by selling his product, charging for his conferences, etc., just like anyone else in this business"

This is not correct, I am afraid. David Icke is FAR from being a multi millioner, or a millioner. This man not lies when he says that he lives rather modestly, although, his incredible work should have in my opinion provided him with some level of convenience in his life, but this is not what he aspires to, taking the smallest amount possible for his full house's presentations.


"don't smear the guy with innuendos and half-truths"

Your advice resonates, Goldie, thanks. would you please consider to change the remark on David Icke which is inaccurate as to not fall to those same traps? :)




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0P38WEHaWU

[GCS1103]

Originally posted by GCS1103: "Alex Jones may have a grating voice, but I believe that the energy and time he puts into his shows is a benefit to those of us who listen to him. He has put himself out there at the Bilderberg meetings, standing in front of people like David Gergen and asking him questions that the main street media would never dare to, showing up at the Bohemian Grove and filming their ritual. I give him credit for doing what others only write about."

Hi Goldie ~ I certainly share your view above


Originally posted by GCS1103: " You may, or may not know this, but David Icke is a multi-millionaire. He earns his money by selling his product, charging for his conferences, etc., just like anyone else in this business"

This is not correct, I am afraid. David Icke is FAR from being a multi millioner, or a millioner. This man not lies when he says that he lives rather modestly, although, his incredible work should have in my opinion provided him with some level of convenience in his life, but this is not what he aspires for, taking the smallest amount possible for his full house's presentations.


"don't smear the guy with innuendos and half-truths"

Your advice resonates, Goldie, thanks. would you please consider to change the remark on David Icke which is inaccurate as to not fall to those same traps? :)




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0P38WEHaWU

Hi, Limor-

I hope all is well with you. I saw the video about David Icke's living conditions too. I also saw the exchange (if you can call it that- there was no love lost) between David Icke and Jesse Ventura. Ventura's information is that Icke is a multi-millionaire. You can watch it on the internet on Jesse's show, the episode was on "Reptilians". Since I have no personal knowledge about David's finances, I can't say that Jesse's information is correct. However, to settle the question, I will contact Jesse Ventura and find out where he got his specific numbers from. Fair enough? I will then post whatever facts he relied on, to this forum. If the moderators don't want me to do this, then I will PM you the information.

By the way, I happen to like David Icke very much too. We just should be careful about equating one's income to their truthfulness. I believe that "financially challenged" doesn't make a speaker any more real than those who are better off financially.

Goldie

[Flash]

Originally posted by GCS1103: "Alex Jones may have a grating voice, but I believe that the energy and time he puts into his shows is a benefit to those of us who listen to him. He has put himself out there at the Bilderberg meetings, standing in front of people like David Gergen and asking him questions that the main street media would never dare to, showing up at the Bohemian Grove and filming their ritual. I give him credit for doing what others only write about."

Hi Goldie ~ I certainly share your view above


Originally posted by GCS1103: " You may, or may not know this, but David Icke is a multi-millionaire. He earns his money by selling his product, charging for his conferences, etc., just like anyone else in this business"

This is not correct, I am afraid. David Icke is FAR from being a multi millioner, or a millioner. This man not lies when he says that he lives rather modestly, although, his incredible work should have in my opinion provided him with some level of convenience in his life, but this is not what he aspires for, taking the smallest amount possible for his full house's presentations.


"don't smear the guy with innuendos and half-truths"

Your advice resonates, Goldie, thanks. would you please consider to change the remark on David Icke which is inaccurate as to not fall to those same traps? :)




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0P38WEHaWU

I can almost swear that Icke is not a multimillionnaire. Why? Because he got the authorship of his many first books stolen, so when they are sold, he got nothing, zilt, zero, and because I know how expensive it is to organize conferences as he does. No way can one become millionnaire with this.

[Limor Wolf]

Goldie, Thanks for your response. I don't have much to say, I will be honest, I have not read all the thread. I completely agree that someone's income has nothing to do with their truthfulness, so it wouldn't matter one way or another, what I do find matters is the accuracy of the details. Please don't feel that you need to settle the question on my behalf, it is up to you to do it if you feel up to it, I have no curiosity on the subject.

I did see large parts of the Icke and Ventura episode at the time, and I do remember what was going on behind the scenes. Here is my own measurment on how to feel when a person tells the truth. remember the biblical phrase "you will know them by their fruits.." ? well, with slight different version it can be - "you will know them by their energy signature", a little futuristic maybe, but working nevertheless. When David Icke is clearly stating that he does not earn millions, as he was doing only last month in a prime time TV show, I chose to believe him, not blindly though, but based on his integrity all of those years, based on the way he conducts himself, based on the ridculous price of the ticket I payed for his eight hours talk in the Brixton Academy and the three books I purchased which are heavy by weight and dedication more than in price and by his energy signature. All I am saying is that if we respect the person, than we may want to respect what he is saying more than what someone else says about him.



From 09:36

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oN9NnKwtVY

"I'll switch my income to yours anytime"

(David Icke to the TV presenter)


I hope you will be willing to re-consider to move/change your remark

[Akasha]

..........The money they earn, or funding they get (like donations) doesn't translate into "disinfo agent". I've seen on this forum, every now and then, individuals making accusations about various people like David Icke, Bob Dean, etc. with no proof whatsoever. Now we have Alex Jones as a bad guy because he had the audacity to marry a Jewish woman, and he's joined the Hollywood/Jewish crowd, "through marital union". It's silly, at best. If you don't like Alex Jones, that's your right; don't listen to him. But don't smear the guy with innuendos and half-truths especially if you cannot back up the accusations with fact.

Another article from Kapner (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=465) which, although replete with personal opinion, does still contain plenty of facts regarding Jones and his sponsors.

[Etherios]

its really silly ... we are argueing about if Jones is this or if Jones is that ... the things he say in his broadcast... The info he is sharing on his site ... can we talk about those? cause thats whats important.

If an angel comes and tells you "a lie" does it make it truth cause he said so? NO ... thats the only way to hide the truth that he is lieing. I dont care if alex jones is a reptilian that does what ever behind the scenes. Is the info he shares good? I mean you can all go and search your selves if what he says is true or not. If you want to learn more SEARCH your selves ... dont ignore the info cause you think he is a "bad" person ...

The most killings are made in the name of GoD (what ever his name) and his pure loving followers.

[Freed Fox]

"Examine what is said, not him who speaks."
~ Arab proverb

[Akasha]

"Examine what is said, not him who speaks."
~ Arab proverb

The issue is more about what is not said and for what reason.

[Freed Fox]

That is perhaps valid, and there are times when the who is as important as the what. For instance, if a scientist finds that the use of fossil fuels does not negatively impact the environment, that's one thing. But if that same research is funded by the likes of BP or Shell Oil, then it is certainly relevant to inspect where the message is coming from. I would not discount the unfortunate fact of ulterior motives in the disclosure of certain information, or the withholding thereof.

I personally do not listen to Alex Jones or Infowars enough to comment at great length. In the past I have viewed him as a well intentioned truth seeker, albeit far too inciteful and paranoid for my tastes. He seems to advocate aggressive force to deal with our oppressors. I'd like to think that better results can be accomplished in the perseverance of non-violent resistance, as exemplified by the likes of Martin Luther King Jr. and Mahatma Gandhi in the past.

Apologies, I have no intention to derail the conversation. I think as long as you don't elevate someone like Alex to messianic/prophetic proportion, then you can stand to gain from his message without buying into any secretive motives underlying it.

[GCS1103]

Goldie, Thanks for your response. I don't have much to say, I will be honest, I have not read all the thread. I completely agree that someone's income has nothing to do with their truthfulness, so it wouldn't matter one way or another, what I do find matters is the accuracy of the details. Please don't feel that you need to settle the question on my behalf, it is up to you to do it if you feel up to it, I have no curiosity on the subject.

I did see large parts of the Icke and Ventura episode at the time, and I do remember what was going on behind the scenes. Here is my own measurment on how to feel when a person tells the truth. remember the biblical phrase "you will know them by their fruits.." ? well, with slight different version it can be - "you will know them by their energy signature", a little futuristic maybe, but working nevertheless. When David Icke is clearly stating that he does not earn millions, as he was doing only last month in a prime time TV show, I chose to believe him, not blindly though, but based on his integrity all of those years, based on the way he conducts himself, based on the ridculous price of the ticket I payed for his eight hours talk in the Brixton Academy and the three books I purchased which are heavy by weight and dedication more than in price and by his energy signature. All I am saying is that if we respect the person, than we may want to respect what he is saying more than what someone else says about him.



From 09:36

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oN9NnKwtVY

"I'll switch my income to yours anytime"

(David Icke to the TV presenter)


I hope you will be willing to re-consider to move/change your remark

Hi, Limor-

I have spent some time on my own, researching what I could, regarding David Icke's financial situation. First, I would say again that one's net worth is completely irrelevant to the veracity of what they are presenting to the public. It does not matter to me if David Icke is a pauper or a very wealthy man; I still enjoy listening to him. However, the same goes for Alex Jones. What he earns, I believe, is no one's business but his own.

David Icke has used his talents to write successful books, produce videos and DVD's, sell merchandise, etc. More power to him. His audiences can number in the thousands, just at one venue. He's appeared at many venues.Although his talks can last 8 hours it does not change the fact that a lot of people are sitting there paying for his time, as they should. At over $50.00 a ticket, it translates to quite a bit of money. As with all presenters, his books, videos, etc. are sold at these shows.

He is currently embroiled in a lawsuit with one of his ex-wives over money. Not because he has a little bit that she wants; but rather because he has a lot that she wants. They are still fighting over his money. Whether she is entitled to it, is another story, but I don't think that this suit would still be on-going and the legal fees adding up if he was not doing well financially. This whole thread started off with a post about Alex Jones and where his funding comes from, followed by a list of innuendos. The point here is that the man's (Alex Jones) ability to earn a very good living should not make him of questionable character. It has always appeared to me that if an alternative media speaker is perceived as not having much money, he is given more credibility. I don't subscribe to that theory.

I was never even slightly interested in the truth about David Icke's finances before this thread. Now I'm curious, so I'll get some answers, if only to satisfy my own curiosity. Then I will either re-consider changing my remark or repeating it, based on more facts.:kiss:

[NewFounderHome]

Hem the video don't work any more?

[jackovesk]

I'll just put it this way: If you are a slave stuck in the matrix of fast food, fast news, and fast sex, then you need to be tickled down there in order to get your attention. Anyone who is in the business of selling media, either tickles the first chakra of survival and fear, the second chakra of sexual energy and anger, of the third chakra of power and grief.

These are the negative aspects of the terrestrial chakras, which does not make them "bad". They are just polarized from the positive aspects, and in the paradigm of news, the polarized aspects of our consciousness and our experience is what we focus on and adorn. It is the playground of opposites where we bounce things off our field and attempt to integrate the energy into wholeness.

Myself, once when I was just a happy go lucky asleep slave lost in the matrix, it was Alex Jones who got my attention. I have since outgrown the need to have my terrestrial charkas tickled to wake me up, but I recognize Alex as an important part of the awakening and do not try to filter what he does through the context from which I now embrace my experience.

He's just on a different frequency than I am now. Nothing wrong with that.

Well said and I Agree, gripreaper...:yes4:


He's just on a different frequency than I am now.

I might add...

The (TRUTH) is on (ALL) frequencies, no matter how developed your 'Spiritual Awareness' is...:yes4:

For it is the (TRUTH) we (ALL) seek & It is the (TRUTH) that will set you (FREE)...:)

The (TRUTH) is the ultimate (FREQUENCY)...:yes4:

[kooky]

David Icke self publishes his own books. He owns David Icke books. I know companies in my city that do self published releases. I even looked into it myself at one point and I was told of all the different types of paper used, cover used, hardback or paperback, how many colours you wanted. I remember one quote given to me was a 500 page paperback book with full colour front, spine and back cover was £2.75. This could be done on any given day provided that I had everything formatted. Formatting also is a lot of work and they do that for an additional charge. That's when you literally lay out each page separately and make sure it looks the way you want it to. David will spend a lot of time on that due to the amount of illustrations he uses. So if I get all that done, I can walk in off the street and get them to do that for me for £2.75 each. I asked if that was only if I requested a specific amount. They told me it doesn't matter if i order 1 copy or a million copies. The price stays the same. Obviously if you want really good quality paper you would pay more or if you had glossy coloured paper it would cost more.....a whole 4p more. Practically nothing.

David charges £20 per book on his website and he owns his own company. I'm walking in off the street and they charge me £2.75 to get a 500 page book made. Think of the profit David makes on 1 book. They MUST make a profit from that so the question is...........how much does it really cost to print a book? It's pennies. So no he might not be a multi millionaire but David is nowhere near poor and he'll tell you that. He tells you in that video that he's not poor or 'anything like'. Listen to those words again, 'anything like'. He tells you the he lives there because he doesn't want the big house or the big garden or the expensive car. Yeah....he doesn't 'want' it. That doesn't mean he can't afford it. Alex Jones is the same. Didn't Alex say to a caller years back that Infowars gets 3 million dollars a year? And that was when he was in the old studio. Guys I know you support them all and they do great work and they really do. They do a great job but don't even think Alex Jones or David Icke have the same worries as you do. There's food on their table. Their bills get paid on time every month. They don't starve. They are very wealthy people.

[Jeffrey]

I have to say, Alex Jones was one of the people who got me started taking paths less travelled. Alex, David Wilcock, reading about Ed Leedskalnin and Tesla.

It's been ten years now, and Alex's popularity has grown (along with his critics). I've always appreciated his fervor, and I never agreed with everything the man said or thought. I have to freaking sift through everything I hear and constantly fact check stuff because headlines can be very misleading. It's also easy to jump to conclusions without explaining the thought process behind the steps leapt over to get to that conclusion. Alex does this sometimes.

It's cool though. He's doing his thing and he's got a good team over there.

I am worried though. He's had some guests on within the past year that made me ... curious. I thought maybe he was just reaching out to appeal to a larger audience. He has also been a guest on certain shows that made me just as curious. Some of the people I'm talking about I have suspected of being fed disinformation (or at worst they were complicit). I'll just leave that at that.

I've always trusted Alex's intentions. Really, I have. Lately though he's garnered so much attention I'm concerned for his reputation and his physical safety. I don't usually state eery "gut" feelings that I get, but I've got to acknowledge this one. I'm all for him pressing onward for the truth, but I think he might be wise to tread carefully. Play it smart kind of thing. Especially now, because if certain people feel threatened by Alex, there's a chance they may be playing it smart too. I don't know what that entails. I'm just throwing it out there.

[gripreaper]

The (TRUTH) is the ultimate (FREQUENCY)...

Right on...

[christian]

So Aaron Dykes and Melissa Melton launched truthstreammedia.com (http://truthstreammedia.com):

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Sounds quite intruiging, but I don't really find "beyond the five senses" information on their site.

[M0JFK]

I know one thing Bill Cooper never had a good word for AJ and when you look at who ownes his radio show I would be very cautious to trust anything he says and his motives for it. I always double check what ever comes out of the PP or IW radio/website. I just dont trust the guy or anyone for that fact...ALWAYS CHECK THE SOURCE.

[Etherios]

I know one thing Bill Cooper never had a good word for AJ and when you look at who ownes his radio show I would be very cautious to trust anything he says and his motives for it. I always double check what ever comes out of the PP or IW radio/website. I just dont trust the guy or anyone for that fact...ALWAYS CHECK THE SOURCE.

Exactly what you said ... AJ is just the person pointing us to information ... its up to us to search them and decide. AJ job is JUST to pass the info ... maybe not all but at least he points to the general directions of the important topics alot more than other media ... (wont even include mass media)