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Abhaya
15th April 2013, 19:37
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/15/us/boston-marathon-explosions/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Two as of now unidentified explosions went off at the finish line of the Boston marathon.

Scary. Weird during the news cast wolf was interviewing someone and they implied there was maybe or could be more explosions multiple times even thou they are saying they have no clue what it is.

Wind
15th April 2013, 19:46
Another false flag attack again?

WhiteFeather
15th April 2013, 19:57
The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself.
False Flag without any doubt.
Their game is about to come to an end.
Kerry The Assclown is going to Tokyo. Why would they send this boy there to do a mans job.
I smell Sh!t. Someone grab a can of room deodorizer. It reeks.

Flash
15th April 2013, 19:59
Well, 12 deads, dozen of injured it seems (Radio-Canada)

we-R-one
15th April 2013, 20:05
It wouldn't surprise me if this becomes the new norm for a while in this country.....lots of fuel to transmute for those who understand. Much love and compassion to the people who have to go through such a painful experience.

vje2
15th April 2013, 20:12
False flag without a doubt!
I wonder which ethnic or religious group will be blamed for it this time?

ThePythonicCow
15th April 2013, 20:13
Some more reports, thanks to links from SiloBreaker.com (http://news.silobreaker.com/boston-marathon-11_2340735): Deaths Comfirmed in Boston Marathon Explosion (http://www.westkentuckystar.com/News/National-World/Deaths-Comfirmed-in-Boston-Marathon-Explosion.aspx)
Video shows explosion at Boston Marathon (http://www.ktar.com/59/1627074/Video-shows-explosion-at-Boston-Marathon)
WATCH LIVE REPORT: Two Explosions At Boston Marathon (http://www.kionrightnow.com/story/21982543/cnn-two-explosions-at-boston-marathon)
Series of Explosions Rock the Boston Marathon (http://current.com/community/94098501_series-of-explosions-rock-the-boston-marathon.htm)
Blasts rock Boston Marathon (http://sport.iafrica.com/others/853410.html)

P.S. -- and one more report, from Fox News (link via Google News (http://news.google.com)):

At least 2 dead, dozens injured after two bombs explode at Boston Marathon (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/15/explosion-reported-near-finish-line-boston-marathon-spokesman-says/)

MR Mojo
15th April 2013, 20:24
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/report-two-explosions-boston-marathon_716390.html

At least two explosions at the finish line, early reports ay 12 dead but I'm sure it will change.

First year my son ran, glad he's OK.

ThePythonicCow
15th April 2013, 20:26
False flag without a doubt!
The key to identifying false flag operations is to watch what happens after the event.

If the bastards in power and their political and media minions seem to have ready responses (instigating more fear and justifying more tyranny, typically) then it was likely a planned event ... that they planned.

If we don't hear much that's coherent from them, then it's more likely an event that some other less substantial group planned.

Deej
15th April 2013, 20:32
False flag without a doubt!
The key to identifying false flag operations is to watch what happens after the event.

If the bastards in power and their political and media minions seem to have ready responses (instigating more fear and justifying more tyranny, typically) then it was likely a planned event ... that they planned.

If we don't hear much that's coherent from them, then it's more likely an event that some other less substantial group planned.

I just heard that they are blaming it on the "Sandy Hoaxters." or crazy right wing gun toten gov hatin patriots!

Strat
15th April 2013, 20:34
I'm kinda speechless at the moment. Even though this is a bomb, I imagine the term 'gun control' is about to be thrown around a lot. I pray for these victims it's a goddamn shame.

Wind
15th April 2013, 20:37
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/15/us-athletics-marathon-boston-newyork-idUSBRE93E10Z20130415

"The New York Police Department has stepped up security around landmarks in Manhattan, including near prominent hotels, in response to at least one explosion near the finish line of the Boston marathon on Monday, said Paul Browne, deputy commissioner of the NYPD.

Browne told Reuters that New York police were re-deploying counter-terrorism vehicles around the city."

EsmaEverheart
15th April 2013, 20:42
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/report-two-explosions-boston-marathon_716390.html

At least two explosions at the finish line, early reports ay 12 dead but I'm sure it will change.

First year my son ran, glad he's OK.

I am glad your son is ok, too.

EYES WIDE OPEN
15th April 2013, 20:49
Wolf Blitzer speculates on a potential link between Boston Marathon explosions, Patriots Day


http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/15/wolf-blitzer-speculates-on-a-potential-link-between-boston-marathon-explosions-patriots-day/

Deej
15th April 2013, 20:52
False flag without a doubt!
The key to identifying false flag operations is to watch what happens after the event.

If the bastards in power and their political and media minions seem to have ready responses (instigating more fear and justifying more tyranny, typically) then it was likely a planned event ... that they planned.

If we don't hear much that's coherent from them, then it's more likely an event that some other less substantial group planned.

I just heard that they are blaming it on the "Sandy Hoaxters." or crazy right wing gun toten gov hatin patriots!

Vice Pres Joe Biden just said that it might be "Gun advocates" on ABC news,,,

Can you say False Flag x 10?

EYES WIDE OPEN
15th April 2013, 20:52
third explosion conformed

RunningDeer
15th April 2013, 20:53
The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself.
False Flag without any doubt.
Their game is about to come to an end.
Kerry The Assclown is going to Tokyo. Why would they send this boy there to do a mans job.
I smell Sh!t. Someone grab a can of room deodorizer. It reeks.


Fresh out of deodorizer, White Feather. How about these?

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Love/hit_fan3_zps1482adb2.JPG (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/media/Love/hit_fan3_zps1482adb2.jpg.html)

EYES WIDE OPEN
15th April 2013, 20:55
“AP reporter on TV says Newtown families were in the VIP section right by the explosion. No injury reports”

ThePythonicCow
15th April 2013, 20:56
The Dallas News (http://www.dallasnews.com/), based on an AP article (http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20130415-2-dead-23-injured-after-two-bombs-explode-at-boston-marathon-finish-line.ece), has the best summary I've seen so far:





http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/20130415-boston_marathon_explosion_30638379.jpg.ece/ALTERNATES/w440/BOSTON_MARATHON_EXPLOSION_30638379.JPG
2 dead, 23 injured after two bombs explode at Boston Marathon finish line (http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20130415-2-dead-23-injured-after-two-bombs-explode-at-boston-marathon-finish-line.ece)
About three hours after the winners crossed the finish line, there were two loud explosions on the north side of Boylston Street just before the finish line.

crosby
15th April 2013, 20:56
reports coming in of a third explosion at the jfk library. the chief of police is saying that this is an 'ongoing' situation.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-22160978

live streaming.
regards, corson

EYES WIDE OPEN
15th April 2013, 20:59
Controlled explosion was NOT the same as the 3rd exlposion at JFK library. from press conference.
https://twitter.com/katierogers/boston

transitionalman
15th April 2013, 21:02
I was listening to ESPN Los Angeles, a sister company of abc news, about an hour after the explosions were reported. The first red flag for me was that they mentioned a supposed honoring of the Sandy Hook families at the end of the marathon. Interestingly enough this radio station decided to open up their phone lines for their listeners to calll in which in my opinion was a little weird. Immediately after the commercial break, a man calls stating that his daughter ran in the marathon. Interesting what he said, and I'll paraphrase. He said that after speaking with his daughter, she told him that there were "pockets of different ethnicity groups, standing around and saying '"So what, so what!" after this occurred. This phone call seemed very reminiscent of the fake family testimonials of Sandy Hook.

Sidney
15th April 2013, 21:03
You know, I remember way back when, when I thought terrorists were random groups from enemy countries blowing up random things,people,buildings,vehicles in our country.

I am still very very sad at the real truth of these matters. : (

william r sanford72
15th April 2013, 21:05
The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself.
False Flag without any doubt.
Their game is about to come to an end.
Kerry The Assclown is going to Tokyo. Why would they send this boy there to do a mans job.
I smell Sh!t. Someone grab a can of room deodorizer. It reeks.


Fresh out of deodorizer, White Feather. How about these?

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Love/hit_fan3_zps1482adb2.JPG (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/media/Love/hit_fan3_zps1482adb2.jpg.html)

i would like a case of said spray....gonna need it. peace be with em.

RunningDeer
15th April 2013, 21:08
Not so subtle subliminal crossing the "finished line"?
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/sublimation_zps7c1f4f40.jpg (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/media/sublimation_zps7c1f4f40.jpg.html)

EYES WIDE OPEN
15th April 2013, 21:10
the roof. https://twitter.com/sippethmysprite/status/323898336748896256/photo/1

donk
15th April 2013, 21:17
Here's the only comment on that Dallas article:


The fact that Obama and the left thought the war on terror was over with his election are proven fools by this tragic event at the marathon and jfk libraries/


Ugh...I guess no matter what, any tragedy is automatically divisive these days...divided we fall.

Deej
15th April 2013, 21:22
Here's the only comment on that Dallas article:


The fact that Obama and the left thought the war on terror was over with his election are proven fools by this tragic event at the marathon and jfk libraries/


Ugh...I guess no matter what, any tragedy is automatically divisive these days...divided we fall.



The administration will blame the NEW terrorists.... PATRIOTS

Deej
15th April 2013, 21:28
Car bomb in New Jersey?

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/9966

norman
15th April 2013, 21:32
BBC Radio reported that they have turned OFF ! mobile phone coverage and closed the air space around Boston.

So, there'll be no awkward mobile phone videos popping up on Youtube from people already on the scene or wanting to get there fast to do a proper news report of the FACTS !

Me thinks.

AriG
15th April 2013, 21:37
Watching NBC MSM coverage of the event. Interestingly, two points:

1. All flags upon the route have toppled, save the US flag, which was photographed flying high whilst the flags of all other nations lay on the ground.

2. Today is tax deadline day.

3. Boston is the home of MIT.

Hope you all are well.

shadowstalker
15th April 2013, 21:38
BBC Radio reported that they have turned OFF ! mobile phone coverage and closed the air space around Boston.

So, there'll be no awkward mobile phone videos popping up on Youtube from people already on the scene or wanting to get there fast to do a proper news report of the FACTS !

Me thinks.

If that's true then there's more confirmation of false flag workings

christian
15th April 2013, 21:40
Eyewitness: Authorities Announced “Drill” Before Boston Explosions (http://www.infowars.com/eyewitness-authorities-announced-drill-before-boston-explosions/)

"An eyewitness to the two explosions at the Boston Marathon today said that a “drill” was repeatedly announced before the bombs exploded and that he “thought it was odd” bomb sniffing dogs were in place before the blast."

Conchis
15th April 2013, 21:52
The "explosion" at the JFK Museum was not a bomb. Fire in a mechanical room. Now they are saying 2 explosions, and one bomb they defused and have in their possession. I bet we're going to see expansion of TSA. A brand new Federal police force.

Referee
15th April 2013, 21:54
More Here... GLP down?

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Wind
15th April 2013, 21:58
I wonder... What if it's an distraction?

divine_moments_of_truth
15th April 2013, 22:08
This is horrible, I don't think we can classify it as a "false flag" until we see the government's response.

It is interesting how the explosion closer to the finish line was right behind the array of international flags.

Peace be with everyone affected by this

miqeel
15th April 2013, 22:10
okay, now there is an interesting thing that i just remembered. About a month ago I watched this movie, quite a funny comedy called four lions. It ends up with 4 jihadists attacking the london marathond. Coincidence much?
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Wind
15th April 2013, 22:10
Obama just made an statement.

giovonni
15th April 2013, 22:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCsrUe4efMM&feature=em-uploademail

Referee
15th April 2013, 22:17
This is horrible, I don't think we can classify it as a "false flag" until we see the government's response.

It is interesting how the explosion closer to the finish line was right behind the array of international flags.

Peace be with everyone affected by this

For me it is an open and shut case as soon as we learned there was a simultaneous drill.

Also the perfect distraction as Gold and other metals plummet.

Also...189 guests on this thread

crosby
15th April 2013, 22:20
you tube clip posted by boston globe:

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there is some graphic sites in this clip.

regards, corson

thunder24
15th April 2013, 22:28
I think it matters not, false flag, or not! The "they" will use any "act" or "act"ion of violence towards their agenda. If tptw did it, then their agenda is going forward, if a foreign terrorist did it, its PROBABLY because of something our Government has done, and if itt was an accident (which I doubt), they most likely will blame it on an American. Either way it is used by "them" for "their" agenda!

Whats interesting though, any of our soldiers coming back that were explosives or I.E.D. disablers can build that which they disable... and with the militias and such and the Gun debate, I could see "them" easily blaming this on said such.

I am not saying it was an United States Citizen nor am I saying it was a soldier! Just my thoughts on how "they" would operate.

I truly hope "they" do not do the said above.
I truly hope we all do the below...

peace on earth, feed the world

Referee
15th April 2013, 22:28
AJ...

4iPoJQKPRFk

AlexanderLight
15th April 2013, 22:31
The Boston marathon bombing has the signature of the shadow government written all over it!

"Boston marathon bombing happened on same day as 'controlled explosion' drill by Boston bomb squad", Mike Adams reports for Natural News.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-umls5aT3OYs/UWx4EbI6csI/AAAAAAAAF88/qBc3H_f1G_I/s1600/01.jpg
"What's not yet being reported by the mainstream media is that a 'controlled explosion' was under way on the same day as the marathon explosion.

As the Boston Globe tweeted today, 'Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities.'

Some people believe this explosion might have been part of the demolition of another bomb. It seems unlikely, however, that a bomb at the library, one mile away, could be so quickly located and rigged to be exploded by the bomb squad in less than one hour following the initial explosions at the marathon."

This is the EXACT modus operandi of the secret brotherhood ruling the world from the shadows!

I remind you that during the 9/11 attacks, the US Air Force was conducting a "simulation" where terrorists hijackers had taken over passenger jets in order to fly them into the WTC towers.

"Simulations" of a terrorist attack were also undergoing in 2005 in London, when the actual attacks took place:

"On the afternoon and evening of 7th July 2005, information came to light about a private company running a terror rehearsal operation in London at the time that real explosions were reported to have occurred on the transport network. These revelations came not from an anonymous source but instead from the Managing Director (Peter Power) of the private firm running the terror rehearsal operation."

Do you think it was just a coincidence? Well, think again!

Peter Power: "Our scenario was very similar (...) it was based on bombs going off, to the time, the locations, all this sort of stuff. (...) there was a few seconds when the audience didn't realize whether it was real or not."

"Yesterday we were actually in the City working on an exercise involving mock broadcasts when it happened for real. (...) When news bulletins started coming on, people began to say how realistic our exercise was - not realizing there was an attack."

I don't know how many of you know, but almost one hour after the London Underground tube system attacks, a fourth bomb was detonated on the top deck of a double-decker bus.

But Mr. Power's "simulation" did not included any bus bombing "simulation"...or has it?

Peter Power: "We simulated a scenario with multiple bomb explosions (...) and 1 bus interchange, to stretch ourselves and test our capabilities."

SOURCE for the above information (http://humansarefree.com/2012/04/87m-earthquake-hits-indonesiaagain.html);
Natural News article (http://www.naturalnews.com/039926_Boston_marathon_bombing_terrorism.html);

The officials have already labeled this as a TERRORIST attack. It is indeed a terrorist attack, but the terrorists are the so called "elite" who stage and benefit from these acts of terror.

It is yet another deception, PLEASE, do not fall for it! As a result, we will loose even more of our liberties. Let us wait and see who will be falsely accused guilty by the Babylonian Brotherhood and we shall find out what their secret agenda is. Stay OPEN MINDED, share the article. It is crucial to spread awareness.

NewFounderHome
15th April 2013, 22:33
Alex Jones is saying then this might be a fals flag with some human implication.

A Boming Drill was going on at the same place at the same time!

Is this true?

4iPoJQKPRFk

What is your ideas on that one?

Debra
15th April 2013, 22:33
Boston marathon bombing happened on same day as ‘controlled explosion’ drill by Boston bomb squad

Mike Adams
Natural News
April 15, 2013
Report carried by info wars (http://www.infowars.com/boston-marathon-bombing-happened-on-same-day-as-controlled-explosion-drill-by-boston-bomb-squad/)



Two bombs have rocked the streets of Boston and reportedly injured 22 marathon runners (two have reportedly died). It’s too early to know the cause of these explosions, but you can rest assured both the state and federal government will try to use this tragic event to blame whatever convenient enemies are most advantageous for the government.
No one has yet stepped forward to claim responsibility for the bombs, and the fact that no firearms were used in the attack may indicate this was NOT part of a false flag effort by the government to try to blame gun owners. (But it’s still way too early to tell…)

Here at Natural News, we are horrified at this loss of innocent life, and we are praying for the victims of this bombing as well as their families.

Bomb squad was running “controlled explosion” on the same day What’s not yet being reported by the mainstream media is that a “controlled explosion” was under way on the same day as the marathon explosion.

As the Boston Globe tweeted today, “Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities.”

Bloomberg news (http://www.bloomberg.com/live-stream/) is now saying, “This is very likely a terrorist attack.”

The question is: Who are the terrorists? It’s far too early to take an informed guess on all this. However, it is indisputable that the FBI is actively engaged in carrying out bomb plots in the United States, then halting them at the last minute to “catch the terrorists.” This fact has been covered by the New York Times, among other publications.

Also read
FBI ‘entrapment’ tactics questioned in web of phony terror plots and paid informants. (http://www.naturalnews.com/034325_FBI_entrapment_terror_plots.html)

Keep in mind I am in no way blaming the FBI for this. Most men and women who work with the FBI are upstanding citizens who would be appalled at such acts. But it is theoretically possible that one of the FBI’s many “terror plots” went too far and turned into a live bomb instead of a dud followed by an arrest for “domestic terrorism.”

For the record, the explosions seemed relatively small for a false flag, and most false flags target children in order to maximize the emotional leverage after the event. That these explosions did not target children is yet more evidence that it may not have been a false flag at all.

Either way, terrorism always works in the favor of the state. It makes presidents look presidential, and it gives the government an excuse to crack down on civil liberties all across the country.

Be wary of who ultimately gets blamed for this, especially if it’s a veteran or patriot.

This article was posted: Monday, April 15, 2013 at 3:58 pm

giovonni
15th April 2013, 22:36
more


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y58FAgGzHd8&feature=em-uploademail

Deej
15th April 2013, 22:43
I think it matters not, false flag, or not! The "they" will use any "act" or "act"ion of violence towards their agenda. If tptw did it, then their agenda is going forward, if a foreign terrorist did it, its PROBABLY because of something our Government has done, and if itt was an accident (which I doubt), they most likely will blame it on an American. Either way it is used by "them" for "their" agenda!

Whats interesting though, any of our soldiers coming back that were explosives or I.E.D. disablers can build that which they disable... and with the militias and such and the Gun debate, I could see "them" easily blaming this on said such.

I am not saying it was an United States Citizen nor am I saying it was a soldier! Just my thoughts on how "they" would operate.

I truly hope "they" do not do the said above.
I truly hope we all do the below...

peace on earth, feed the world

I think this is very accurate assessment of the situation.

Sunny-side-up
15th April 2013, 22:47
My heart and Love to all the victims.

No one or any organization claiming this yet I see!

Prodigal Son
15th April 2013, 22:48
"What's not yet being reported by the mainstream media is that a 'controlled explosion' was under way on the same day as the marathon explosion.
[Bolding mine] Just curious Avalonians, in what millennium do you think the MSM might get around to reporting that? :mmph:

Sunny-side-up
15th April 2013, 22:51
Yet more sadness, yet more madness.
My heart and love to the victims.

spiritguide
15th April 2013, 22:53
MSM reported that the third bomb found and defused was under the finish line grandstand. Good thing that one defaulted. Only heard one short report stating this, keep eyes and ears open.

Soul Safari
15th April 2013, 22:55
And I just found this on facebook..


Now THIS is bizarre. A few minutes ago I posted a link to a FB page called "Thoughts Go Out To All Involved In The Boston Explosions." The page was created TWO DAYS AGO. Within a couple of minutes, not only did the page disappear, but so did my links to that page! But guess what? While I still had the page up on my screen, I PHOTOGRAPHED it. Better copy and send this around now, because something is very, very wrong here......

Photo can be found here (I couldn't upload it for some reason)
http://www.facebook.com/groups/2204686781/

ghostrider
15th April 2013, 23:04
message from the ptb, no gathering of crowds uniting for a common purpose... people will be fearful of crowds ... that's what I get from it ... I saw military uniforms at the site, how did the military get there so quick ??? why take down cell phone reception ??? seems to me allowing cell phone calls would let them trace the call from the bombers to their controllers ...bomb drills ??? oh we shouldn't do that ,they are having the marathon on that day... this event stinks ...

Fred Steeves
15th April 2013, 23:16
The most vital thing for people who can peer behind the curtain to keep in mind is this: Watch your step, and keep your cool.

crosby
15th April 2013, 23:24
AJ...

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very important information here. also, if you listen to the boston globe vid., that i posted a couple of posts back, around the 41, 42 second mark you can hear the officer say something to the affect that "somebody fu%^&d up. come on, theres gonna be pieces....." i am sickened by the thought that this is happening.
regards, corson

ThePythonicCow
15th April 2013, 23:26
The Boston marathon bombing has the signature of the shadow government written all over it!


Alex Jones is saying then this might be a fals flag with some human implication.
I just merged the above two threads into the existing thread covering the bombs at the Boston Marathon.

Earlier today, two other mods merged two other threads into this one as well :).

yiolas
15th April 2013, 23:26
Alex Jones on live news stream now at

http://www.infowars.com/listen-on-the-internet/#

Camilo
15th April 2013, 23:49
UPDATE on the Boston Marathon

lots of great info here – so obviously a setup.
http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/.rss
***********
blogger post – We heard on CTV on channel 15 in Canada
A reporter said that someone was in a building on the 4th floor looking out the window watching the race and seen the frist explosion and cloud of smoke and told by an army ranger said that “there will be more explosions and you must get out of the building, now.”

Before the second explosion went off
**********
“Adding further heartbreak to utter tragedy, the last mile of Monday’s Boston Marathon, which was rocked by at least two explosions resulting in an unknown number of injuries and casualties Monday afternoon, was dedicated to the victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting massacre. Boston Athletic Association president Joanne Flaminio said before the race that had a “special significance” because it was 26.2 miles long and there was 26 victims in the Newtown attack. There was also a group of Newtown parents running as part of a group called Team Newtown Strong who were raising money for local charities. A banner honoring the victims, hung at the end of the 26th mile, can be seen in the photo above.

“In the first twenty miles we’re honoring the twenty Sandy Hook first graders,” Laura Nowacki, a spokesperson for Newtown Strong, explained to WBUR Boston. “When we crest Heartbreak Hill, and we’re coming back towards Boston, we run the final six for our six fallen educators, including their lives, to protect our children.”

There was a 26-second moment of silence for the victims before the race started.

Update 4:07 p.m.: Newtown families were reportedly seated in the VIP section right by where the explosions went off. There’s no word whether they are among the 23 injured and two dead from the explosions.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/04/boston-marathons-final-mile-was-dedicated-newtown-victims/64250/

ghostrider
15th April 2013, 23:50
more


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y58FAgGzHd8&feature=em-uploademail

a 20 yr old saudi man wearing a back pack seen entering the bomb area twenty minutes before the explosions , caught on security camera ??? his is in custody...

Carmody
15th April 2013, 23:52
April was getting a bit late, I thought, for them to make their move. Spring (earlier) is the requirement for a false flag, in order for a functional fascist move into to securing a multi-season (and multi-climate) continent wide theater. (military strategy demands this)

Just a few hours ago, I was remarking to myself that the window was closing.

Well, that changes things a bit.

Watch this closely, to see if it expands.

There was/is about a 3-4 week window that would be 'perfect'.

It was getting to be on the tail end of that window.

Wind
16th April 2013, 00:03
These major false flags are being done approximately between 4-5 months, smaller hits are done almost every month. Events like this are supposed to cause confusion.

It's always a message like this: "Fear not citizen, we'll rescue you by taking your rights away from you!"

In the meantime they'll just keep continue doing their hideous acts...

Carmody
16th April 2013, 00:06
OK. Watch For Action around North Korea or other hot spots.

There is also all that massive email and communication data from the off shore banking that came to light the other day. The trillions in hidden funds. How many years of secret off shore banking was revealed in that data dump?

kaon
16th April 2013, 00:23
Tragic. Absolutely tragic. I hope that this doesn't turn into another circus and media frenzy strewn with misinformation.

As bad as this is, other countries like Palestine have this happen on a regular basis.

Hip Hipnotist
16th April 2013, 00:25
Make what you will of this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpZcELZSlRw

Maunagarjana
16th April 2013, 00:27
http://www.whistlerquestion.com/article/20130415/WHISTLER01/304159996/-1/whistler/boston-runners-were-warned-squamish-man

Runners getting set to take part in the Boston Marathon were warned beforehand that they were going to die, said a Squamish resident who took part in the race.

Mike Heiliger, 59, said a woman holding several bags was telling runners who were picking up their pre-race packages in downtown Boston on Saturday (April 13) that they were going to die if they participated in the event.

“I was downtown on Saturday and you know, you see these people on the street and think it's just some nutbar,” he told The Chief from his Boston hotel on Monday (April 15). “It was a little creepy because you can identify who the runners are and I heard her say to this runner two feet away from me that, 'If you run tomorrow you're going to die.'”

jagman
16th April 2013, 00:28
If we ever want to catch these bastards red handed, were going to have to get smarter. We need our own response teams.
Alex & crew do a good job but when the bastards pull one of these shams we need people on the ground Asap. These folks need o have good credentials and they
need to be experts in their field of study. Just my 2 cents

kaon
16th April 2013, 00:36
Agreed Jagman, but where in the hell is Homeland Security when they are really needed?


If we ever want to catch these bastards red handed, were going to have to get smarter. We need our own response teams.
Alex & crew do a good job but when the bastards pull one of these shams we need people on the ground Asap. These folks need o have good credentials and they
need to be experts in their field of study. Just my 2 cents

gripreaper
16th April 2013, 00:41
My energy is going towards: We know who you are, we know what you're up to, and we don't approve.

Collapsing all the worlds markets at the same time, bombing innocents (again), all on tax day?

Not buying the message of: You are no longer safe to gather in large groups, we control all asset classes and we take from you whenever we want, and you better be a good little slave and send in your energy to us in the form of taxes, and sit down, shut up and do as you are told.

Nope...

Wind
16th April 2013, 01:02
This was posted yesterday, it's viral advertisement for the upcoming Man of Steel movie. Listen to the message.

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Chester
16th April 2013, 01:04
Error post - apologies

RunningDeer
16th April 2013, 01:18
From the greater perspective, I salute those Warriors that gave their lives this day. Godspeed... and thank you.

Hey, sleepy heads. Now do you get it?


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Lighthouses/lighthouse2s.JPG (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/media/Lighthouses/lighthouse2s.jpg.html)

Earth Angel
16th April 2013, 01:21
and so it begins.....Police and military agents have been deployed in major cities as panic from the Boston marathon bombing spreads worldwide...why would there be WORLD panic for this?? is this something the police are doing as that was the plan regardless and this is just the excuse?? they're doing it for us??

http://intellihub.com/2013/04/15/massive-police-presence-in-major-cities-worldwide-following-boston-marathon-bombing/

Earth Angel
16th April 2013, 01:29
posted on facebook

Status Update
By Dutchsinse
A viewer just posted this.. someone find it:

Brian N Douglas :

Concerning the bombings at the Boston marathon. If you view the Family Guy episode ( Turban Cowboy) which was aired on March 17, 2013 on Fox, You will see a Boston marathon with people being killed, a library, terrorists and you will hear two explosions, bombs detonated via cell phone and see one explosion of a bridge from a bomb detonated via cell phone. Look into it

I cant view this in Canada but hopefully some of you can
http://www.hulu.com/watch/468323#i0,p178,d0

norman
16th April 2013, 01:33
and so it begins.....Police and military agents have been deployed in major cities as panic from the Boston marathon bombing spreads worldwide...why would there be WORLD panic for this?? is this something the police are doing as that was the plan regardless and this is just the excuse?? they're doing it for us??

http://intellihub.com/2013/04/15/massive-police-presence-in-major-cities-worldwide-following-boston-marathon-bombing/


Then there's "Ding Dong - the funeral service for Thatcher" on Wednesday, with a huge military presence and a rehearsal at dawn on Monday.

I could hardly believe the speed of the campaign to call here out as a nasty old witch, and the amazing way the BBC etc allowed it to be so high profile. I don't think I've EVER heard a bad word said about a recently dead public figure before I heard it all over the place about Thatcher last week. Part of me smiled at it and part of me felt quite spooky about it too.

Strange time.

william r sanford72
16th April 2013, 01:34
The "explosion" at the JFK Museum was not a bomb. Fire in a mechanical room. Now they are saying 2 explosions, and one bomb they defused and have in their possession. I bet we're going to see expansion of TSA. A brand new Federal police force.

nah thats what homeland SEC. is for.evil twisted boys gettn to play with there new toys.....

Deej
16th April 2013, 01:38
posted on facebook

Status Update
By Dutchsinse
A viewer just posted this.. someone find it:

Brian N Douglas :

Concerning the bombings at the Boston marathon. If you view the Family Guy episode ( Turban Cowboy) which was aired on March 17, 2013 on Fox, You will see a Boston marathon with people being killed, a library, terrorists and you will hear two explosions, bombs detonated via cell phone and see one explosion of a bridge from a bomb detonated via cell phone. Look into it

"Turban Cowboy?" oh... that's just not right!

RunningDeer
16th April 2013, 01:40
This is for all the newly awakening guests. Please pass along to not buy into the fear porn game.


"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFnFr-DOPf8

Deej
16th April 2013, 02:10
That is sweet Paula!

Kimberley
16th April 2013, 02:11
Sorry to be late on the scene...started a new job today and left my 25 miles north of Boston house at 3:15 pm.

At 3:30 I heard on the radio for the first time the news of the explosions at the finish line of the Boston marathon.

We are all well!! William, my husband, works about a mile from were the the explosion occurred and did not hear or feel anything...He made it home safe and sound (thank goodness)...

I am personally a bit shaken because I have covered the boston marathon several times in my radio career, have been at the finish line many times and one year even slept in an RV near to the finish line...so I know the scenario of what was taking place at the time of the finish today first hand from past experience...

Perhaps we will learn what and why at some point what this is/was about... all I know is that I fear not... and expect that all happens in perfect order...

I am touched that so many of my friends have thought of me and reached out to me and my family asking if we are safe an unscathed!

We are all well, however morning this days events...

Thank you!!!

Much love and peace always in all ways!!! :grouphug: :peace:
XO

Kimberley

turiya
16th April 2013, 02:12
posted on facebook

Status Update
By Dutchsinse
A viewer just posted this.. someone find it:

Brian N Douglas :

Concerning the bombings at the Boston marathon. If you view the Family Guy episode ( Turban Cowboy) which was aired on March 17, 2013 on Fox, You will see a Boston marathon with people being killed, a library, terrorists and you will hear two explosions, bombs detonated via cell phone and see one explosion of a bridge from a bomb detonated via cell phone. Look into it

"Turban Cowboy?" oh... that's just not right!

Please settle down...
Check out what wikipedia has to say about the plot of "Tuban Cowboy" - it takes place in Rhode Island. Has nothing to do with the Boston Marathon.


Turban Cowboy Plot:

As Peter, Joe, and Quagmire hang out at The Drunken Clam, they decide to do something to shake up their boring lives. They take Peter up on his suggestion to take up skydiving. Peter is invigorated by their jump and keeps up skydiving despite Lois' concern, even as his jumps usually result in accidents like falling on Meg at dinner, falling on a ninja that killed a woman, and falling on the castle of the Pig King from Angry Birds with only one pig not ended up killed. An accident at the Eiffel Tower replica in Las Vegas lands Peter in the hospital where he meets Mahmoud, a Muslim. He finds he gets along great with Mahmoud. Back at the Drunken Clam, Peter has Mahmoud stop by to introduce him to Quagmire, Joe, and Brian. They find he has nothing in common with them when he refuses to drink or look at other women. Mahmoud introduces Peter to Islamic culture and he becomes interested in becoming a Muslim. Lois has reservations as Peter starts studying Islam in-depth although she decides to let it pass. Joe and Quagmire also voice their suspicions about Mahmoud as Peter tries to dial up Mahmoud twice only to cause some explosions off-screen. Mahmoud later invites Peter to a Muslim get-together but finds himself unwitting involved with terrorists intent on blowing up the Quahog Bridge.

When Peter drops that he is trying to act inauspicious, the guys begin to suspect that he is involved with terrorists. Peter realizes that he has been duped and wants to drop out but Joe convinces him to go along since he is already on the inside. As they go over the plan, Peter finds out that he will be driving the van. Peter is caught when he reveals he is wearing a microphone when trying to scratch an itch near it. Joe and Quagmire hear as they plan is rushed into action. Peter is held at gunpoint and forced to drive the explosives-laden van to the Quahog Bridge. Peter tries to talk Mahmoud out of his plan, but fails. Joe arrives in time with the police to stop him and destroys the detonator by knocking it out of Mahmoud's hand. Joe mentions that 30 of the terrorists have been arrested and that the rest of the local Muslims are cast under suspicion. Joe thanks Peter for his involvement as Peter decides to call Horace to get a table ready for his friends and family at the Drunken Clam. As he dials his cell phone, the Quahog Bridge explodes and Peter orders everyone to run away.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turban_Cowboy

Go fish!
turiya :cool:

P.S. ~~~~~~~~~~EDIT~~~~~~~~~~~
The above the description of the general plot of that "Turban Cowboy" Family Guy episode. Someone did come up with the short clip (seemingly, two episodes edited together), that attempts to relate the Boston Marathon bombing to that single Family Guy episode. This is apparently flat out wrong!
http://youtu.be/xcw9J6QNPVU
Please Note: From the comments section of that youtube video:
EOKAWarrior 5 hours ago


"good job putting together two seperate family guy clips and putting them together, idiot."

Openmindedskeptic
16th April 2013, 02:15
The only thing I can definitively conclude at this point is that our $60,000,000,000 a year Intelligence budget can’t keep us safe. :rolleyes:

Tesla_WTC_Solution
16th April 2013, 02:21
This is such a tragedy.

Did anyone else notice all the Aryan Nation articles in the paper this week?

I wouldn't be too fast to blame someone who isn't white.

In fact, not to make a joke, but notice the bombs went off well after the first and healthiest contenders had already finished the race! The people cheering the stragglers got hit.

And furthermore, anyone who hits Boston is thinking all the way back to the Boston Tea Party, which isn't what I would pick as a target if I was "Al Qaida".

These terrorists are different from Al Qaeda in that they target people instead of things. The twin towers vs hometown event? Geez.

I'd blame the Neo Nazis but I am crazy.

PS. of COURSE our gov will try to link the GITMO trouble to this

SilentFeathers
16th April 2013, 02:22
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turiya
16th April 2013, 02:37
The only thing I can definitively conclude at this point is that our $60,000,000,000 a year Intelligence budget can’t keep us safe. :rolleyes:

The so-called "intelligence" agencies are behind this BS. Research "Operation Gladio". This is where US Intelligence gets its agenda from... Take a look at the thread "How an imaginary enemy was created" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55212-How-an-imaginary-enemy-was-created.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ws6OrePRzk

turiya :cool:

Sidney
16th April 2013, 02:46
If there was a TRAINING going on, thats almost proof positive that its a false flag. Same story, different event. OMG , its just disgusting. Thank you for that video.

SilentFeathers
16th April 2013, 02:47
UM Coach: Bomb Sniffing Dogs, Spotters on Roofs Before Explosions

University of Mobile’s Cross Country Coach, who was near the finish line of the Boston Marathon when a series of explosions went off, said he thought it was odd there were bomb sniffing dogs at the start and finish lines.

"They kept making announcements to the participants do not worry, it's just a training exercise," Coach Ali Stevenson told Local 15.

Stevenson said he saw law enforcement spotters on the roofs at the start of the race. He's been in plenty of marathons in Chicago, D.C., Chicago, London and other major metropolitan areas but has never seen that level of security before.

http://www.local15tv.com/news/local/story/UM-Coach-Bomb-Sniffing-Dogs-Spotters-on-Roofs/BrirjAzFPUKKN8z6eSDJEA.cspx#.UWyJu0THL60.facebook

Amazing how they won't even show you a photo of the shot out window at the Sandy Hook school, nor any other pics of any evidence what so ever, BUT, with these bombings they are showing about everything.......quite effective in both cases....

This will make it much easier for the gestapo to create even more of a police state.....first they take your guns away then they strip search ya before you enter Wally World, we are arriving to that point......I'm sure there's more to come soon.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-WYRjARJztxc/UWy5HJy-JtI/AAAAAAAAEIE/pHvbSXfd_tk/s500/falseflag.jpg

Earth Angel
16th April 2013, 03:08
Excellent Timing!

Press Release
Created: April 12, 2013

Boston EMS is deploying a new, off-the-shelf, lightweight mobile device for the first time at the Boston Marathon on April 15.
The platform, from SafetyPAD, is intended for use in mass-casualty situations gives EMS personnel the ability to carry into crowds and assess a patient upon arrival, document in realtime, transmit data to transport units before they arrive, and other features.

Boston EMS will utilize the new Android-based program for bike and gator teams along race route.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/04/boston-to-deploy-mass-casualty-tablet-device-during-marathon-2621392.html

Tesseract
16th April 2013, 03:09
About this this time nearly two years ago there was a parade in Boston for the Bruins - by coincidence I was in the area.

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Guess who was on the scene?

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Why deploy SWAT to a sports parade?

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I don't believe this bombing in Boston was a false flag - I just feel strange looking back on these photos from two years ago, and I thought I'd share.

The scene today:

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Deej
16th April 2013, 03:34
If there was a TRAINING going on, thats almost proof positive that its a false flag. Same story, different event. OMG , its just disgusting. Thank you for that video.

Just like the "training/drill" that was going on at Sandy Hoax, CT.

Carmody
16th April 2013, 03:41
And the training in London's 7/7/7.

And the training exercise on 9/11.

~~~~~~~~~~~

It's a simple equation. People murdered, in your face, as a method and tactic to keep you responsive with regard to control and herding. Responsive at the unconscious animal emotional level.

Preying on your base instinct.

Used by controlling groups since the idea of ape herding about a few million years back in time.

Oldest trick in the book, built into you.... a few million years before the book appeared.

bennycog
16th April 2013, 04:26
Finish line bombing, or finish line celebration for the elite. What countries were the other flags torn down to the ground, that the US flag got to watch fall?
This one was certainly made to look real and actually show the casualties, big effect. Loving energy to anyone hurt and any family involved too..

A relatively small event like this can have a big impact. Purely because of it's random nature, shock treatment, frenzied reaction.

Which would make this the better headline for the world to focus on. I really think the elite as45oles have got their "shock and awe" system down to a fine art.

sygh
16th April 2013, 06:16
False flag without a doubt!
The key to identifying false flag operations is to watch what happens after the event.

If the bastards in power and their political and media minions seem to have ready responses (instigating more fear and justifying more tyranny, typically) then it was likely a planned event ... that they planned.

If we don't hear much that's coherent from them, then it's more likely an event that some other less substantial group planned.

I heard the news while traveling. When I got home, I turned on FOX to listen in on the reports. 3 Dead, 180 injured. Person of interest in the hospital, and a raid happening in Revere, MA at the time. That was 2 hours ago. Yes, I know, it was mainstream media. I couldn't believe my ears when they started showing the bombs going off and the chaos that ensued while, (get this) playing music in the background and taking cheezy shots of the American flag, like it was a movie or something. UNbefrickingleavable! The nerve! The unmitigated nerve of this network broadcast piping in a freaking music score for this trama! It makes me want to puke!

I feel for the people who suffered and died in this tragic event but this smells like last week's fish dinner. Ten-to-one its gonna be a home grown. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but the powers in charge are ruthless. What's a couple of dead bodies compared to disarming the U.S?

Let me make this straight, regular people, you know, the ones everyone is always screaming about as to whether or not they are awake are P.O.'ed at what's happening in the U.S. and abroad. I had 4 complete strangers start conversations with me about this current admin and what's happening in the U.S. the what everybody wants to think of as "normal people" are so riled, they want to join up somewhere and do something about it with others, in mass. I pointed every single one of them to the Oath Keepers.

P.S. And sorry I've been gone so long or, just being here intermittently, I've been wild busy, and to top it off, my mom passed away. Seems like I can't put out the first fire before the second one starts. Don't think that's unusual for anyone these days.

Antagenet
16th April 2013, 06:29
Finish line bombing, or finish line celebration for the elite.
absolutely eerie.

sygh
16th April 2013, 06:37
OK. Watch For Action around North Korea or other hot spots.

There is also all that massive email and communication data from the off shore banking that came to light the other day. The trillions in hidden funds. How many years of secret off shore banking was revealed in that data dump?

I missed that... point me in the right direction, please.

Referee
16th April 2013, 06:44
Dan Bidondi of Infowars slipped in a question at the press conference which made it onto CNN they tried to cut to CIA Cooper but were too slow. Check it out...


first 30 seconds.

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Also Illuminati card game card Joggers

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Also this from the Batman Map Shocking!

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778 neighbour of some guy
16th April 2013, 07:32
you tube clip posted by boston globe:

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there is some graphic sites in this clip.

regards, corson

Weird, only the windows directly behind the explosion seem to be broken, puff of white smoke, and not the gutwrenching agressive short tearing sound of high explosives, just a stretched boom and the exact same sound from the other explosion down the street with the same smoke, shutting down cell phone traffic, means you cant make calls, does not mean you cant film the event, film now post later still applies.

jackovesk
16th April 2013, 08:01
Had to go with my 'Gut Feel' on this one...

1st thing I noticed when watching the News was this...

(ALL IN FOR BOSTON..!)

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/876302-boston-explosion-483-x-272.jpg

This image flashed up on screen more than any other picture, my 'Guess' its (ALL IN for the PTW Criminal Terrorists) alright and 'Unfortunately' this is just the start...IMHO...:yes4:

I did a little digging on the caption (ALL IN FOR BOSTON) and I believe it relates to the new Adidas (Corporation) 'Boost' Shoe...

http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aagl_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-adidas-AU-Site/Sites-adidas-AU-Library/en_AU/v1366081525523/static-pages/adidas-Boost-Running-Shoe-official.jpg

...Having said that we know how the PTW use certain 'Language' to communicate during a Terror Event amongst themselves on a Global scale...:yes4:

Then I saw this from the Referee...

Low & Behold: The 'Illuminati' Card Game - Strikes Again..!

http://www.secretsofthefed.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/BOSTON-MARATHON-JOGGERS-ILLUMINATI-CARD-GAME1-215x300.jpg

(1) POWER - (2) RESISTANCE

Coincidence..? :noidea:

PS - I am also 'Expecting' a (Major Act of Terrorism or Event from the PTW Globalists) in Australia before September 14th the 'Criminal Labor Govts "Unwinnable" Election Date...

PSS - Just noticed the 'Numbers' on this post...


Today 08:01 (8 + 1) = 9 - Link to Post #99

Flip it 999

and you get 666...spooky...:shocked:

PSSS - Forgot to mention, whilst listening to the 4th Hr of Alex Jones broadcast today. He said...


We just got confirmation from one of our staff (Rob Dew - I think?) brother in law was running on behalf of the 'Military' today and was 'Conveniently' (Pulled Out) of the Marathon for (Heat Exhaustion) before reaching the finishing line..!!!!

It was also (PATRIOT DAY) and a public holiday in Boston...

PSSS - Know just (1 THING) on a Day like today & the Weeks leading up to the Event, the (Main Street) would have be littered with...

CCTV Cameras (They would have EVERYTHING on Film)...:yes4:

http://images.whereilive.com.au/images/uploads/2008/09/24/f72aa1128add8c8adfb5e7d6c3399ed7_resized.JPG

Mr. Metazoan
16th April 2013, 08:10
Prediction: Later this week we will learn that the bomber was a white male, mid to late twenties, he will be a 2nd amendment advocate with NRA literature in his home, the bombs will have been made with reloading powder, this will become unavailable to the public and ammunition will be taxed and sales will be recorded in the months following.

Referee
16th April 2013, 08:15
One more piece of the puzzle. A brand new tablet device for mass casualties was deployed to personnel along the route.

http://www.firehouse.com/press_release/10919925/boston-to-deploy-mass-casualty-tablet-device-during-marathon\

Also this another Memorial page put up 3 to 4 hours before the event happened.

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karamba
16th April 2013, 09:59
Sending Uncondiftional LOve and Peace to Boston !
Bashar comments on Evil, Domination & Darkness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYr31BLAzFc-

dianna
16th April 2013, 10:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcw9J6QNPVU

UPDATE

Comments on youtube suggest that this clip is actually from two different episodes --- what kind of idiot would do such a thing --- I was so disturbed by it!

buckminster fuller
16th April 2013, 10:17
April 15th is no ordinary date. It is :

1-Patriot's day
2-Tax day
3-The anniversary of Kim Il-sung (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Il-sung), first ruler of north korea
4-The anniversary of the EC-121 shootdown incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EC-121_shootdown_incident) , where an american spy plane was taken down by two korean migs over the sea of japan.

So what we have is a curious mix of nationalisms, being american and north korean. In terms of context, everything is there to start a war.

Edit : although the bombings are terrible events, in terms of casualties it just cannot compete with the 10 000 children that die every single day of malnutrition, poisoned water and starvation. The world is already much worst than what we are fed to believe, and I can't refrain myself to think that we're only doing this to ourselves.

Anchor
16th April 2013, 10:40
Prediction: Later this week we will learn that the bomber was a white male, mid to late twenties, he will be a 2nd amendment advocate with NRA literature in his home, the bombs will have been made with reloading powder, this will become unavailable to the public and ammunition will be taxed and sales will be recorded in the months following.

My first thought is that I don't think this was a false flag. However, I do think it will be used as if it was one; and your theory is as good as any.

buckminster fuller
16th April 2013, 10:48
Prediction: Later this week we will learn that the bomber was a white male, mid to late twenties, he will be a 2nd amendment advocate with NRA literature in his home, the bombs will have been made with reloading powder, this will become unavailable to the public and ammunition will be taxed and sales will be recorded in the months following.

My first thought is that I don't think this was a false flag. However, I do think it will be used as if it was one; and your theory is as good as any.

You're right, it could be anything really, american nationalists, north korean terrorists (jiggle), the militaro-industrial complex, the CIA, even aliens who knows... It feels like a door has been open, but we don't know by whom and where it leads.
I wouldn't speculate too much, but we have what I think are significant coincidences happening.

seeker/reader
16th April 2013, 11:48
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RunningDeer
16th April 2013, 12:10
The only thing I can definitively conclude at this point is that our $60,000,000,000 a year Intelligence budget can’t keep us safe. :rolleyes:

It's not meant to. It's about power, control, enslavement for the "us" to work 24/7 to support their Pina Colada, with little pink umbrella, habits.

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/computer3.gif I suspect we've both stated the obvious, so enjoy the tunes, OpenMindedSkeptic.


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jackovesk
16th April 2013, 12:14
Who is this PERSON? Individual seen walking on roof directly overhead as bomb goes off at Boston Marathon



Lone person seen on rooftop overlooking scene of the bomb blasts
The figure, who is little more than a silhouette, is yet to be identified


PUBLISHED: 22:25 GMT, 15 April 2013

A picture posted on Twitter shows an individual walking on the roof directly overlooking one of the blasts at the Boston Marathon.

The picture of the mystery person was posted shortly after the terror attack and raises the eerily possibility that one of the perpetrators watched as the carnage was unleashed.

Law-enforcement sources told the New York Post that a 20-year-old Saudi man was detained at a Boston hospital.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/15/article-0-19508DB9000005DC-529_638x636.jpg
Who is this individual walking on the roof overlooking the blast? This picture posted to Twitter shows somebody standing directly above the scene of the carnage

Fox News reported that the suspect was badly burned.

He was taken into custody less than two hours after the 3pm blasts that have killed at least three people and injured more than 140.

It was not immediately clear whether the person on the roof had anything to do with the terror attack.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2309641/Boston-Marathon-bomb-explosions-Who-mystery-man-roof.html

SilentFeathers
16th April 2013, 12:25
The guy on the roof could of been bird man Bob who was feeding his pigeons and heard the ruckus and was checking it out, or it most likely was a cop/swat. IMO, I doubt very much it was the mad bomber! Besides, if you study the photo, the guy on the roof has no visual of either explosion.

The Saudi "person of interest"? a distraction IMO. The perp or perps will be white anti'gov types and have ar15"s stashed all over their property IMO.

Sandy Hook was stamped all over this marathon before it even started, a ceremony at the beginning of the race (silent and peaceful) and the ceremony at the end of the race (loud and chaotic).....Sandy Hook families attended both ceremonies, beginning to end.

We'll soon know what's going on and if this IS a false flag when they lay out the fairy tale story/narrative that makes absolutely no common sense.

witchy1
16th April 2013, 12:25
As the Boston Globe tweeted today, "Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities."

I dont tweet, but I am sure some one can check this out

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/13890_10151426913243237_1613423107_n.jpg


This really was a drill. Noone was hurt. I guess we can discuss this guy - who is bizaarly conscious after having both legs blown off. I saved all the published photos in case it all gets taken away.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/554702_10151330303920685_53541600_n.jpg
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151330303920685&set=a.10150343434090685.345215.513300684&type=1&relevant_count=1)



Also this vid, at 2.30 - watch the blood on the lower right hand corner... LOL abcnews.go.com/US/video/boston-marathon-rocked-explosions-18960661

and this is what barry did today:
23 orders signed today all on gun control.... and while I was trying to copy the page, I was kicked of the site.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/01/16/here-are-the-23-executive-orders-on-gun-safety-signed-today-by-the-president/

witchy1
16th April 2013, 12:35
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s480x480/553044_478425582230359_1468822004_n.jpg (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=478425582230359&set=a.440096002729984.103893.438021249604126&type=1&ref=nf)
.

witchy1
16th April 2013, 12:40
Official Story Unraveling for Boston Marathon Bombing;

It’s now becoming clear that members of the Boston bomb squad had advanced notice of the horrific bombing that took place at the marathon today. As an eyewitness reports, once the bombs went off, officials began announcing, “this is just a drill!” This logically means they were all informed of the “bomb drill” beforehand. Otherwise, why would they respond with, “this is just a drill” ?
According to Local15TV.com (http://www.local15tv.com/news/local/story/UM-Coach-Bomb-Sniffing-Dogs-Were-at-Start-Finish/BrirjAzFPUKKN8z6eSDJEA.cspx), a University of Mobile’s Cross Country Coach said there were bomb-sniffing dogs at both the start and finish lines, long before any explosions went off. He said:

“They kept making announcements on the loud speaker that it was just a drill and there was nothing to worry about. It seemed like there was some sort of threat, but they kept telling us it was just a drill.”

More here...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/official-story-unraveling-for-boston-marathon-bombing-clear-evidence-points-to-bomb-squads-prior-knowledge/5331559

jackovesk
16th April 2013, 13:20
As the Boston Globe tweeted today, "Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities."

I dont tweet, but I am sure some one can check this out


This really was a drill. Noone was hurt. I guess we can discuss this guy - who is bizaarly conscious after having both legs blown off. I saved all the published photos in case it all gets taken away.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/554702_10151330303920685_53541600_n.jpg
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151330303920685&set=a.10150343434090685.345215.513300684&type=1&relevant_count=1)



Also this vid, at 2.30 - watch the blood on the lower right hand corner... LOL abcnews.go.com/US/video/boston-marathon-rocked-explosions-18960661

and this is what barry did today:
23 orders signed today all on gun control.... and while I was trying to copy the page, I was kicked of the site.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/01/16/here-are-the-23-executive-orders-on-gun-safety-signed-today-by-the-president/

BINGO...:yes4:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/554702_10151330303920685_53541600_n.jpg

Now where getting somewhere Witchy1...:thumb:

donk
16th April 2013, 13:23
Prediction: Later this week we will learn that the bomber was a white male, mid to late twenties, he will be a 2nd amendment advocate with NRA literature in his home, the bombs will have been made with reloading powder, this will become unavailable to the public and ammunition will be taxed and sales will be recorded in the months following.

My first thought is that I don't think this was a false flag. However, I do think it will be used as if it was one; and your theory is as good as any.

You're right, it could be anything really, american nationalists, north korean terrorists (jiggle), the militaro-industrial complex, the CIA, even aliens who knows... It feels like a door has been open, but we don't know by whom and where it leads.
I wouldn't speculate too much, but we have what I think are significant coincidences happening.

My first thought was "heist"...then again, I've seen Die Hard too man times.

witchy1
16th April 2013, 13:24
At the very same time this happened....
On the heels of another cascade of selling in gold and silver, today whistleblower Andrew Maguire told KWN that a stunning 155 tons of paper gold was sold in just one hour. Maguire also spoke with KWN about the remarkable amount of central bank buying which took place during that chaotic one hour time frame. Below is what Maguire had to say in this remarkable and exclusive interview.

" In the one hour into the London FIX we saw a stunning 155 tons of paper gold sold. That took place in just one hour. The reson there is so much concentrated selling into the London fix is because it creates even more computer generated selling...."

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2013/4/15_Maguire_-_155_Tons_Of_Paper_Gold_Sold_In_Just_One_Hour%21.html

Wonder who's gone long on gold???? This is the biggest drop since the 80's - I see also that silver dropped 11% today

Sidney
16th April 2013, 13:40
As the Boston Globe tweeted today, "Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities."

I dont tweet, but I am sure some one can check this out

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/13890_10151426913243237_1613423107_n.jpg


This really was a drill. Noone was hurt. I guess we can discuss this guy - who is bizaarly conscious after having both legs blown off. I saved all the published photos in case it all gets taken away.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/554702_10151330303920685_53541600_n.jpg
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151330303920685&set=a.10150343434090685.345215.513300684&type=1&relevant_count=1)



Also this vid, at 2.30 - watch the blood on the lower right hand corner... LOL abcnews.go.com/US/video/boston-marathon-rocked-explosions-18960661

and this is what barry did today:
23 orders signed today all on gun control.... and while I was trying to copy the page, I was kicked of the site.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/01/16/here-are-the-23-executive-orders-on-gun-safety-signed-today-by-the-president/

link no longer works

Sidney
16th April 2013, 13:43
Prediction: Later this week we will learn that the bomber was a white male, mid to late twenties, he will be a 2nd amendment advocate with NRA literature in his home, the bombs will have been made with reloading powder, this will become unavailable to the public and ammunition will be taxed and sales will be recorded in the months following.

My first thought is that I don't think this was a false flag. However, I do think it will be used as if it was one; and your theory is as good as any.

You're right, it could be anything really, american nationalists, north korean terrorists (jiggle), the militaro-industrial complex, the CIA, even aliens who knows... It feels like a door has been open, but we don't know by whom and where it leads.
I wouldn't speculate too much, but we have what I think are significant coincidences happening.

My first thought was "heist"...then again, I've seen Die Hard too man times.

Not only that, but why in hell would they have a drill DURING the race. C'MON. REALLY?????????????????????????????????????

dianna
16th April 2013, 13:55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcw9J6QNPVU

UPDATE

Comments on youtube suggest that this clip is actually from two different episodes --- what kind of idiot would do such a thing --- I was so disturbed by it!

My apologies for posting so quickly --- it is not my intention to post BS on this site

witchy1
16th April 2013, 13:59
Why are they ignoring his question !!!

GcYK5LzzFVc

Hervé
16th April 2013, 14:16
On the other hand, in terms of possibilities, it could be that there was a bomb threat warning...

... disguised as a drill to "not scare" the crowd into a stampede... you know... like the nutcase mayor of New York needing to get "his" marathon on schedule despite "Sandy"'s devastation...


"The marathon has always brought our city together and inspired us with stories of courage and determination," Mr Bloomberg and the New York Road Runners, the marathon's organizers, said in a joint statement.

RunningDeer
16th April 2013, 14:25
"Evil, Domination & Darkness"

Sending Uncondiftional LOve and Peace to Boston !
Bashar comments on Evil, Domination & Darkness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYr31BLAzFc-

Karamba, big thanks for this link! Timely and informative on the different levels. I’m not wearing my Pollyanna glass right now, but this video helped me settle into balance once again. Knowledge dispels confusion and fear.

Themes discussed: Evil, negative & positive energies, conditioning, fear, powerlessness, domination, reconnection, power, allowance, unconditional love, frequency, encounters, acceleration, the rubber band analogy, from darkness to light.


qYr31BLAzFc

Rough notes:

Question: How about the people that choose to be evil in this life?


The concept of evil is objective. We prefer the idea of evil as negative energy. That is simply a mechanical description of what is being done.
Positive energy is one that integrates, unifies, makes whole. Whereas, negative energy is that which separates, segregates, diversifies, and breaks apart. And thus doesn’t allow communication to occur in a harmonious way. But it’s discordant, jagged, rough. This is a description of the actual energy involved.
The only reason why a being would choose to exhibit that kind of behavior is because they has been subjected to it. And have been taught that is the only way to communicate. It’s the only way to relate to all that is.
They are in fear. Deep, deep, deep, deep fear. And they feel powerless and disconnected from spirit. And in feeling powerless and experiencing powerlessness, it isn’t that they are powerless.
In experiencing the idea of powerlessness, they then resort to the only thing they haven’t had and that is: physical control and domination. They feel they are loosing control. They are dying. They are going down the drain.
You don’t want to die alone, so you’ll take down as many people as you can.
It’s an attempt to reconnect, but it’s in the only way they know how. Negatively. That’s what domination is. An attempt to reconnect with no positive tools. They don’t know how. That’s how they were brought up.
But, it’s still an attempt to reconnect. But if you understand that, and can find that space in the being, that can be reached, that can be loved unconditionally, that can be shown as valid a piece of Creation as anyone. Then maybe they will be willing to let go of the fear. Let go of the need for domination and transform themselves from negative to positive. They will give up the job of being evil. Because it is no longer necessary.
Here’s the secret: When they feel like they are powerless, and are trying to dominate in order to gain a sense of power, the issue is really that it’s simply an expression of powerlessness. Because, THE GREATEST POWER REQUIRES THE LIGHTEST TOUCH. If you truly have power you hardly have to do anything to make things happen.
Those that force...are saying I have no power at all. So I have to FORCE everything to work, instead of ALLOWING it to work.
Allowance and unconditional love are the keys. And teaching them that they are powerful aspects of creation. So they don’t have to be in fear, terror and feeling disconnected. Thus feel the only way to reconnect is to dominate anything in their reach.

Part Two:


Sometimes the frequency that we give off is better processed in other ways. Sometimes it will actually bring up things within you that your only just barely ready to look at.
We exist in a kind of frequency domain that induces others to rise to that level.
This is why ET’s don’t physically land on the planet. If we did and you were literally exposed to us full force, it might cause many of you to go into psychotic shock. Because it would force issues that you are not ready to look at to the surface of your consciousness and you would actually be terrified of yourself. Not us.
This is why you must understand the difference between the world you have created and the world you can create. What it really means to have heaven on earth.
The frequency, the energy is so intense when you are living on that level that we must be cautious when we encounter beings that are not living on that level so that we do not burn them out.
None of this is bragging, none of this is judging. I’m simply discussing the mechanics of it.
What you are experiencing right now about 1% of our energy. Our reality vibrationally is about 300 years ahead of your reality. But culturally, we are about 3000 years ahead.
[B]It doesn’t mean it will take you 300 years to get to where you are. Because you live on a world of great acceleration. The point of earth is to accelerate to the dark to the light more rapidly than most any other world.
This is why we use the ‘rubber ban’ analogy to describe your planet. You all know that when you take a rubber ban and you pull at it, the farther you pull it back, the farther it will go when you let it go.
The idea on Earth is darkness...the reason why you have experienced so much depth of darkness and limitation, you’ve pulled your rubber band so far back that when you finally decide to let go of all darkness, you will snap back faster and much farther to the Light.
You are very strong, brave beings for doing this. And we thank you. Because you are teaching many other planets valuable lessons on how to overcome almost anything.

sygh
16th April 2013, 14:36
Nothing wrong with being on the side of caution. If I were in that position, I would have taken the precautions. Of course, after over a decade of war on "terror", more terror seems to be the norm. War begets war? Hatred and killing beget more of the same. Birds of a feather flock together. Everybody's doing it, why not?

But, trying to think like a terrorist... how senseless was this act? What great message was in these concealed packages of death? The anniversary of the OK bombings. Well, well. If it were homemade, and I certainly can't call that one, I don't think any self respecting anti-governmental group would have chosen this venue. Must be them American hillbilly rebels, eh? Not smart enough ta tie their own shoes. Random acts of terror for no good reason. Although the fact that it is in Boston brings about a bit of history concerning our nation but it certainly wasn't the place the first shot of the revolutionary war took place. However, Boston is known for it's stand on taxation. Seems stupid to guess. As dumb as the act itself.

witchy1
16th April 2013, 14:42
Not only that, but why in hell would they have a drill DURING the race. C'MON. REALLY?????????????????????????????????????

There's no point in doing this type of training out in the country when there is no one around is there...... This looks like a perfect time to practise. The responders need to learn to manage crowds, manouvere the streets, get gear in and out etc etc etc, make sure comms is working. A situation like this could really happen and they need to know what to do.

I did a bus accident scene once when nursing training, not too dissimilar - but not as high profile clearly and not with an incendary device. It was a little coutry town, but it was a on a main road..... and it was a bus of children. They even managed the parents at the school.- who were coming to pick up there kids (everyone was advised it was going to happened tho)

Everyone was told to make it as realistic as possible, the on lookers had to wail cry scream etc etc. so that the responders could learn from the situation. It all goes down very real and we got in the papers. However the media said it was a test situation.

The guy with his legs allegedly blown off is clearly fake IMHO. He would at minimum be unconscious and at least be in shock from blood loss.

This is my opinion only. I think it a load of crap and the media have got out of hand.

steveofengland
16th April 2013, 14:52
On the BBC today, they had an ex British bomb squad serviceman said that the white smoke was indicative of low exlosive material, whereas the "usual extremists" choice of high explosive materials gives off black smoke and a much higher casualty count. So nothing fancy like C4 but something "home made"
He also mentioned the patriot day, and the timing also not far away from that of the oklahoma bombing being this week in april 95

ljwheat
16th April 2013, 15:00
This is sad, truly sad that the different alterative sites I frequent have threads of false flag perinea, when there is no facts no story and all grabbing straws on a act of cowardice, the Unabomber went for almost 20 years before he slipped and was turned in by his brother.

This shows how quick a lynch mob, stirs itself in to a frenzy with little or no facts to go on. "Trust no one, expect everyone" mentality is sick and un called for at this time. Obsessing on this is borderline personal screaming me, me’s speculation gone nuts.

Critical thinking would suggest silence in this matter except for out pouring of sympathy to those hurt by it.

Any coward on the planet can light a fuse and run away.

Why do we need to run in and give it a reason the coward did not leave behind. Like the Unabomber nothing for years ………

RunningDeer
16th April 2013, 15:01
As the Boston Globe tweeted today, "Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities."

I dont tweet, but I am sure some one can check this out

link no longer works


"Here Are the 23 Executive Orders On Gun Safety Signed by the President Today (http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/01/16/here-are-the-23-executive-orders-on-gun-safety-signed-today-by-the-president/)"


President Obama has signed 23 executive orders designed to address the problem of gun violence in America. The following are the items addressed:

Gun Violence Reduction Executive Actions:

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

5. Propose rule making to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effectiveuse of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to developinnovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

It does not appear that any of the executive orders would have any impact on the guns people currently own-or would like to purchase- and that all proposals regarding limiting the availability of assault weapons or large ammunition magazines will be proposed for Congressional action. As such, any potential effort to create a constitutional crisis—or the leveling of charges that the White House has overstepped its executive authority—would hold no validity.

Journeyon
16th April 2013, 15:10
Did anyone else see ABC world news tonight, last night (April 15th)? There were some flashes on the screen when they were interviewing a man (I can't remember who, but some specialist.) there was a quick flash and my husband and 12 yr old daughter both saw the word terror. My husband said "Did you see that, did you see that? That said terror." I was sitting there but I was not really paying attention because I was sensing the sensational nature of the reporting and felt they were trying to instill fear.

My thought is the best way we can counter what ever is going on behind the scenes it to find peace within. Send peace and love to the victims and all who are in fear and spread the word to those we talk with that the media is spreading fear and terror through the news. The more who can see the sick tactics being used to generate fear the quicker we can shine a light on the corruption and where it is comming from.

I haven't read through all the comments in this thread so I'm sorry if this has already been discussed.

In Peace,
Journeyon

sygh
16th April 2013, 15:17
As the Boston Globe tweeted today, "Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities."

I dont tweet, but I am sure some one can check this out

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/13890_10151426913243237_1613423107_n.jpg


This really was a drill. Noone was hurt. I guess we can discuss this guy - who is bizaarly conscious after having both legs blown off. I saved all the published photos in case it all gets taken away.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/554702_10151330303920685_53541600_n.jpg
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151330303920685&set=a.10150343434090685.345215.513300684&type=1&relevant_count=1)



Also this vid, at 2.30 - watch the blood on the lower right hand corner... LOL abcnews.go.com/US/video/boston-marathon-rocked-explosions-18960661

and this is what barry did today:
23 orders signed today all on gun control.... and while I was trying to copy the page, I was kicked of the site.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/01/16/here-are-the-23-executive-orders-on-gun-safety-signed-today-by-the-president/

If that isn't Nick Vogt, its his long lost twin brother, the guy is holding his leg and actually smiling. But is this pic from the Marathon, or is this pic from someplace else? And there's no time mark on the tweet.

I also read the 23 EOs, at least we know of a certainty these are real. Can't say I'm pleased that doctors will be asking us if we have weapons. What if we say no and really do? What if we say yes, and really don't? Why should we tell them anything about whether or not we have a weapon? And this article says the Constitution isn't being attacked? And these EOs connect all this crap to Obama Care too? Does it get any deeper than this?

Regardless of the events at the Marathon. President Obama needs to be dethroned. I have had it with him, he's a socialist, pure and simple. Socialism fails, time and time again. People don't perform - look at Europe and countries in Africa that have gone the socialist route. Governments don't make money, they spend it for you. Real giving isn't in the form of a tax where you give part of your money to someone in the government and they dispense it for you as they see fit.

No. This isn't even really about socialism, this is about a world government and it is in no way a form of progress, as it is being foisted upon us - not for or even with us but upon us, and to us. Lies, deception, financial control and abduction, making indefinite detention legal, drones, DHS (the Royal guard) Obama Care forced by law, QE ad nausea. No. No more.

Obama Care
http://www.jdnews.com/opinion/our-opinion/devils-hiding-out-in-the-details-1.115384

I understand shopping and doing business locally but this man and his ilk above and below him have almost halted competition in the U.S. Since WHEN does a thinking President invest in one single type of renewable OR company? And since when does a PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SAY: I've had a chance to visit all 59 states? What?

Nope, no more rope. The guy doesn't need it.

My voice is going to be raised against the current admin and do nothing to make a stand Congress. This President, he's not my President any more, is completely over-stepping his power. Enough of this. I'm not violent but I'm going to do whatever I need to do to help get this guy out of office dishonorably, disband DHS, and get rid of Obama Care. President Obama is a dangerous leader. And since I'm at it, let us rid ourselves of Chris Matthews. eeew!

RunningDeer
16th April 2013, 15:25
Prediction: Later this week we will learn that the bomber was a white male, mid to late twenties, he will be a 2nd amendment advocate with NRA literature in his home, the bombs will have been made with reloading powder, this will become unavailable to the public and ammunition will be taxed and sales will be recorded in the months following.

My first thought is that I don't think this was a false flag. However, I do think it will be used as if it was one; and your theory is as good as any.

You're right, it could be anything really, american nationalists, north korean terrorists (jiggle), the militaro-industrial complex, the CIA, even aliens who knows... It feels like a door has been open, but we don't know by whom and where it leads.
I wouldn't speculate too much, but we have what I think are significant coincidences happening.

My first thought was "heist"...then again, I've seen Die Hard too man times.

Here, this'll help you, Donk. :wave:

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Die_Hard_zps741003a6.jpg (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/media/Die_Hard_zps741003a6.jpg.html)

Virma De Ris
16th April 2013, 15:28
They're really keeping tabs on "not adequate" images on social media sites. Yesterday I saw in Facebook the graphic image of the runner without legs. I thought it was too graphic to be posted on such site but I knew it was done to stir more negative feelings on people. I told my husband that the image looked fake, Photoshopped, because it felt staged. I even told him that it was weird how that man hadn't passed out from the pain.

Today I saw this posted by Witchy -I think- if not then the credit goes to whoever posted in first.

21150

It really made me somewhat upset to have been correct in my initial hunch so I decided to post in Facebook the corrected image. I've even added a caption of what I felt the first time I saw the maimed man. Below is what I found after it got posted publicly:

21149

This is the detail:

21151

Interesting right? This image gets scrambled. Hiding truth everywhere. So sad indeed. I'm amazed they haven't canceled my account yet.

Praying for the people assaulted at the marathon, and for all who suffer everyday because of a bunch of people who don't know what they really are doing to the collective.

Blessings to all!

write4change
16th April 2013, 15:31
"Evil, Domination & Darkness"

Sending Uncondiftional LOve and Peace to Boston !
Bashar comments on Evil, Domination & Darkness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYr31BLAzFc-

Karamba, big thanks for this link! Timely and informative on the different levels. I’m not wearing my Pollyanna glass right now, but this video helped me settle into balance once again. Knowledge dispels confusion and fear.

Themes discussed: Evil, negative & positive energies, conditioning, fear, powerlessness, domination, reconnection, power, allowance, unconditional love, frequency, encounters, acceleration, the rubber band analogy, from darkness to light.


qYr31BLAzFc

Rough notes:

Question: How about the people that choose to be evil in this life?


The concept of evil is objective. We prefer the idea of evil as negative energy. That is simply a mechanical description of what is being done.
Positive energy is one that integrates, unifies, makes whole. Whereas, negative energy is that which separates, segregates, diversifies, and breaks apart. And thus doesn’t allow communication to occur in a harmonious way. But it’s discordant, jagged, rough. This is a description of the actual energy involved.
The only reason why a being would choose to exhibit that kind of behavior is because they has been subjected to it. And have been taught that is the only way to communicate. It’s the only way to relate to all that is.
They are in fear. Deep, deep, deep, deep fear. And they feel powerless and disconnected from spirit. And in feeling powerless and experiencing powerlessness, it isn’t that they are powerless.
In experiencing the idea of powerlessness, they then resort to the only thing they haven’t had and that is: physical control and domination. They feel they are loosing control. They are dying. They are going down the drain.
You don’t want to die alone, so you’ll take down as many people as you can.
It’s an attempt to reconnect, but it’s in the only way they know how. Negatively. That’s what domination is. An attempt to reconnect with no positive tools. They don’t know how. That’s how they were brought up.
But, it’s still an attempt to reconnect. But if you understand that, and can find that space in the being, that can be reached, that can be loved unconditionally, that can be shown as valid a piece of Creation as anyone. Then maybe they will be willing to let go of the fear. Let go of the need for domination and transform themselves from negative to positive. They will give up the job of being evil. Because it is no longer necessary.
Here’s the secret: When they feel like they are powerless, and are trying to dominate in order to gain a sense of power, the issue is really that it’s simply an expression of powerlessness. Because, THE GREATEST POWER REQUIRES THE LIGHTEST TOUCH. If you truly have power you hardly have to do anything to make things happen.
Those that force...are saying I have no power at all. So I have to FORCE everything to work, instead of ALLOWING it to work.
Allowance and unconditional love are the keys. And teaching them that they are powerful aspects of creation. So they don’t have to be in fear, terror and feeling disconnected. Thus feel the only way to reconnect is to dominate anything in their reach.

Part Two:


Sometimes the frequency that we give off is better processed in other ways. Sometimes it will actually bring up things within you that your only just barely ready to look at.
We exist in a kind of frequency domain that induces others to rise to that level.
This is why ET’s don’t physically land on the planet. If we did and you were literally exposed to us full force, it might cause many of you to go into psychotic shock. Because it would force issues that you are not ready to look at to the surface of your consciousness and you would actually be terrified of yourself. Not us.
This is why you must understand the difference between the world you have created and the world you can create. What it really means to have heaven on earth.
The frequency, the energy is so intense when you are living on that level that we must be cautious when we encounter beings that are not living on that level so that we do not burn them out.
None of this is bragging, none of this is judging. I’m simply discussing the mechanics of it.
What you are experiencing right now about 1% of our energy. Our reality vibrationally is about 300 years ahead of your reality. But culturally, we are about 3000 years ahead.
[B]It doesn’t mean it will take you 300 years to get to where you are. Because you live on a world of great acceleration. The point of earth is to accelerate to the dark to the light more rapidly than most any other world.
This is why we use the ‘rubber ban’ analogy to describe your planet. You all know that when you take a rubber ban and you pull at it, the farther you pull it back, the farther it will go when you let it go.
The idea on Earth is darkness...the reason why you have experienced so much depth of darkness and limitation, you’ve pulled your rubber band so far back that when you finally decide to let go of all darkness, you will snap back faster and much farther to the Light.
You are very strong, brave beings for doing this. And we thank you. Because you are teaching many other planets valuable lessons on how to overcome almost anything.


This is so good I want to preserve thinking about it.

sygh
16th April 2013, 15:49
They're really keeping tabs on "not adequate" images on social media sites. Yesterday I saw in Facebook the graphic image of the runner without legs. I thought it was too graphic to be posted on such site but I knew it was done to stir more negative feelings on people. I told my husband that the image looked fake, Photoshopped, because it felt staged. I even told him that it was weird how that man hadn't passed out from the pain.

Today I saw this posted by Witchy -I think- if not then the credit goes to whoever posted in first.

21150

It really made me somewhat upset to have been correct in my initial hunch so I decided to post in Facebook the corrected image. I've even added a caption of what I felt the first time I saw the maimed man. Below is what I found after it got posted publicly:

21149

This is the detail:

21151

Interesting right? This image gets scrambled. Hiding truth everywhere. So sad indeed. I'm amazed they haven't canceled my account yet.

Praying for the people assaulted at the marathon, and for all who suffer everyday because of a bunch of people who don't know what they really are doing to the collective.

Blessings to all!

All day yesterday, anything I did on my computer had bad consequences. I posted one thing to FB and I turned around to find I had posted the same thing almost an infinite amount of times; in other words, it went into a loop. It was not user error, it was FB. That's not the only incident I experienced. I tried to post on AJ's site and IE went nuts on me telling me there was an error (not the normal "slow down" coming from AJ's site but Internet Explorer went bonkers) and IE was trying to close down all of my open tabs but it wouldn't close down and it kept popping up again and again, even after I finally managed to forcibly close all of the windows. I tried to restart IE and again, it said IE was running errors. Prior to that some of the information I was working on in Word hours before came up when I grabbed an http;// link and posted it. The link posted and what I had been working on in Word posted too! Plus, I couldn't remove the post. This private info was long gone from anything I did with it in "copy and paste" in the business email I had been working on hours before. And all of this happened before 3 P.M. EST.

It was a long day yesterday with many, many things happening at once. I don't know if there's a correlation between what was happening with the Net and Boston but I'd be interested to know, did anyone else experience trouble with their Internet connection yesterday?

P.S. Forgive me if what I have said sounds overly important on an individual level, as if I were personalizing the event. I have opinions but prefer facts. Other than psyche, I'm just a person relaying something odd that happened in a frame of specific time. It could be that the Internet was jammed on the East Coast due to the Marathon, and that is the most likely scenario.

Sidney
16th April 2013, 16:10
Gee, I wonder why they want to CONFISCATE the evidence????????????????????? DOH. are we really that stupid?????
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/fbi-holds-news-conference-marathon-bombings-133152749.html

Boston Marathon update: More than 170 injured, officials ask public for videos
By Holly Bailey and Liz Goodwin | The Lookout – 1 hr 31 mins ago
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BOSTON—Law enforcement cautioned that they are just beginning the potentially lengthy process of tracking down the culprit behind two bombs that left more than 170 people injured and three dead near the finish line of the Boston Marathon Monday. Seventeen of the injured are in critical condition in area hospitals, officials said Tuesday, with several of them facing amputations.
Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis said at a press conference Tuesday that no one is in custody for the crime, but that law enforcement are interviewing witnesses.
Officials also made a plea to the public to turn in any photographic or digital evidence they have from the scene. "There have to be hundreds if not thousands of photographs or videos or observations there were made at the finish line yesterday," Massachusetts State Police Superintendent Timothy Albert said. "I would encourage you to bring [it] forward." They directed people with information to call 1-800-494-TIPS.
FBI Special Agent in Charge Richard DesLauriers said they are "just beginning upon that path" of processing the crime scene and following up on leads from the public.
Gov. Deval Patrick—on a podium crowded with officials and politicians—said that no additional explosive devices were found in the area during the FBI's sweep, refuting reports that as many as five were found and deactivated.
The injuries from the explosions include dismemberment and local hospitals say they are treating shrapnel wounds, open fractures and limb injuries. At Massachusetts General Hospital, doctors performed four amputations, and two more patients are at risk for needing amputations. Dr. Ron Walls, chair of emergency medicine at Brigham and Women's Hospital, said at a press conference that the bombs appeared to have been stuffed with nails and other round, shiny debris to cause maximum harm, based on his patients' injuries. An 8-year-old boy from Dorchester is one of the three known dead, and several of the injured are also children.
So far, officials have identified just one victim of Monday’s bombings at the Boston Marathon: 8-year-old Martin Richard of nearby Dorchester. According to Rep. Stephen Lynch, who has known the family for 25 years, Richard was at the race with several members of his family, including his father, Bill, who had run the race in the past but had skipped the marathon this year because of an injury.
The family had gone to get ice cream and had returned to watch runners along Boylston Street when they witnessed the first blast, according to Lynch. He said the family immediately tried to move off the sidewalk into the street, in an attempt to get away from buildings out of fear of another blast. That’s when the second bomb struck, killing Richard and severely injuring his mother, Denise, and his six-year-old sister, Jane. His father was hit by what Lynch described as “ball bearings” from the bomb, but was not severely injured, while Richard’s older brother, who has not been identified, was uninjured. Lynch told Yahoo News the family was “struggling as anybody in this situation would” and was planning to issue a statement to the media later today.
"This was a cowardly and heinous act," President Barack Obama said Tuesday morning in a brief address. He said the bombs are being investigated as an act of terrorism, but emphasized that authorities do not know who is responsible for it. "We will find whoever harmed our citizens and we will bring them to justice," he said.
On Tuesday morning, Boylston Street remained closed, but Boston officials reopened some of the perimeter around the site of the explosions. Davis called the area "the most complex crime scene we've dealt with in the history of our department." A 12-block area remains closed to the public.
Meanwhile, in New York, a busy terminal in LaGuardia airport was evacuated due to a suspicious package Tuesday morning.
There were still signs of the former chaos that blanketed the Copley Square area after the explosions went off at 2:50 p.m. Along Huntington Avenue, a stretch packed with hotels where many Boston Marathon runners stayed Monday night, dozens of SWAT vehicles were positioned in spaces where tourists usually board the city’s famous Duck Boat tours. And the side streets leading to Boylston were cordoned off with police tape, as investigators waved off bystanders trying to take photos of the scene.
The shopping mall at the Prudential Center, one of the city’s busiest tourist spots, was reopened but was eerily empty—absent of the usual stream of workers who use the mall to commute to their offices at the Prudential Tower, one of the city’s tallest buildings.
Along side streets, runners still dressed in their blue and yellow Boston Marathon jackets wandered the streets—some with their suitcases, as they tried to figure out a way to get to the airport, others trying to get in a daily run.
“You’re supposed to keep moving after running a marathon,” said Kathi Russo, a runner from Salisbury, N.C., who had crossed the finish line about 20 minutes before the first blast went off.
Russo, who was running her sixth Boston Marathon, spent hours Monday night trying to get back to her hotel, which was about two blocks from the second bombing site. She described a scene of “chaos” as hundreds of runners were pushed away from the blast site, not quite aware of what had happened.
Russo’s friend, Dianne Allen, was running in a later wave about half a mile away from the site when officials began to stop runners. Allen said people had no idea what happened until word of the bombings began trickling through the crowd, thanks to the few runners who had been carrying their cell phones.
It took Allen several hours to get back to their hotel, where she and Russo were reunited. They said several members of the group they were traveling with had been standing near the finish line and were injured—including a 16-year-old girl, who had a broken fibula, and a husband and wife, who suffered broken legs and burns.
“We don’t know a whole lot more about that,” Allen said. “It’s been hard to get information.”
Back in Washington, the White House released a statement saying that President Barack Obama had been briefed overnight about the explosions, and that later this morning he would receive a briefing from Assistant for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism Lisa Monaco, FBI Director Robert Mueller and other senior members of his team. The president ordered that all flags at public buildings be flown at half staff.
The race draws many runners from overseas—potentially part of its appeal as a target. Some foreign consulates in Boston urged visitors from abroad to reach out to their families to let them know whether they were safe. Some also updated their social media—notably their Twitter feeds—with the latest from the investigation and useful telephone numbers or other resources

Virma De Ris
16th April 2013, 16:17
They're really keeping tabs on "not adequate" images on social media sites. Yesterday I saw in Facebook the graphic image of the runner without legs. I thought it was too graphic to be posted on such site but I knew it was done to stir more negative feelings on people. I told my husband that the image looked fake, Photoshopped, because it felt staged. I even told him that it was weird how that man hadn't passed out from the pain.

Today I saw this posted by Witchy -I think- if not then the credit goes to whoever posted in first.

21150

It really made me somewhat upset to have been correct in my initial hunch so I decided to post in Facebook the corrected image. I've even added a caption of what I felt the first time I saw the maimed man. Below is what I found after it got posted publicly:

21149

This is the detail:

21151

Interesting right? This image gets scrambled. Hiding truth everywhere. So sad indeed. I'm amazed they haven't canceled my account yet.

Praying for the people assaulted at the marathon, and for all who suffer everyday because of a bunch of people who don't know what they really are doing to the collective.

Blessings to all!

All day yesterday, anything I did on my computer had bad consequences. I posted one thing to FB and I turned around to find I had posted the same thing almost an infinite amount of times; in other words, it went into a loop. It was not user error, it was FB. That's not the only incident I experienced. I tried to post on AJ's site and IE went nuts on me telling me there was an error (not the normal "slow down" coming from AJ's site but Internet Explorer went bonkers) and IE was trying to close down all of my open tabs but it wouldn't close down and it kept popping up again and again, even after I finally managed to forcibly close all of the windows. I tried to restart IE and again, it said IE was running errors. Prior to that some of the information I was working on in Word hours before came up when I grabbed an http;// link and posted it. The link posted and what I had been working on in Word posted too! Plus, I couldn't remove the post. This private info was long gone from anything I did with it in "copy and paste" in the business email I had been working on hours before. And all of this happened before 3 P.M. EST.

It was a long day yesterday with many, many things happening at once. I don't know if there's a correlation between what was happening with the Net and Boston but I'd be interested to know, did anyone else experienced trouble with their Internet connection yesterday?

P.S. Forgive me if what I have said sounds overly important on an individual level, as if I were personalizing the event. I have opinions but prefer facts. Other than psyche, I'm just a person relaying something odd that happened in a frame of specific time. It could be that the Internet was jammed on the East Coast due to the Marathon, and that is the most likely scenario.

Who knows... I used FB for iPad (iOS) and that's what it did. Every bit of info it's important at some level for the overall picture. :)

sygh
16th April 2013, 16:22
The use of ball bearings... that sounds home grown. Lets ban ball bearings now. From now on, there must be a background check before you can purchase ball bearings. But it's not the ball bearing that's dangerous, its the person with the ball bearing. OK, well, if you want some ball bearings go to the doctor's office and visit a psychiatrist (subjective as that is) get checked out and come back with the appropriate doctor's notes. One bad apple, you know. And no more Marathons. Marathons are public gatherings that are just asking for terror.

Its a crying shame when you no longer trust your government or their media.

jackovesk
16th April 2013, 16:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcw9J6QNPVU

UPDATE

Comments on youtube suggest that this clip is actually from two different episodes --- what kind of idiot would do such a thing --- I was so disturbed by it!

My apologies for posting so quickly --- it is not my intention to post BS on this site

Not so fast there young dianna...:nono:

Infowars supports your initial conclusion...:yes4:

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Family Guy Episode Predicted Boston Marathon Attack

Scenes deleted for rebroadcasts

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
April 16, 2013


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmGNtasS_3Q&feature=player_embedded

An episode of the popular show Family Guy which was first aired less than a month ago eerily predicted aspects of the Boston Marathon attack, depicting the main character detonating two bombs in addition to winning the marathon by killing the rest of the participants.

The episode, named Turban Cowboy, centers around Peter becoming embroiled with terrorists who plan on blowing up bridges in Boston. The show aired on March 17, just under a month ago on the Fox network and has been repeated in recent days.

The image of Peter killing the Boston Marathon runners even shows blood and missing limbs, a chilling reminder of the very real scenes of carnage we saw yesterday.

It is important to note that the video shows two clips from different points of the show edited together, but they are from the same episode.

Critics responded to the episode by remarking that it “feels like an episode made in 2002 and left on the shelf for a decade.”

The plot was so similar to the tragic events in Boston yesterday that scenes have been deleted for rebroadcasts.

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/family-guy-episode-predicted-boston-marathon-attack.html

RunningDeer
16th April 2013, 16:42
They are taunting you.
They want conflict.
This is all contrived.
They’ve done this because they want you to attack.
They did it this way so that it will create conflict. And it will also vilify the Truth movement.
It will make all those who’ve stood up to the government look like crazies.
It’s there to generate controversy.

Lots of debunking already on the thread. Time for me to unhook. I found this by Max Igan from the Sandy Hook affair. I’ve included rough notes for the first 3 minutes. They are for interested guests, newcomers and old to Avalon, and for those awakening to the game.


Sandy Hook - An American Coup d'état - 3/4
LuRKBnYItC8



We all knew there was going to be a time when things came down to the wire. When you look at this whole Sandy Hook debacle the way people are being attacked. The way Robbie Parker had to take down the Facebook page because of all the negative comments, and conspiracies comments.
Gene Rosen on new reports being attacked by Truthers.
This is all contrived. They’ve done this because they want you to attack.
They want to make it obvious.
The way they had the image of Robbie Parker smiling before he went to air on the TV. They had the footage there smiling before he went up to the camera.
The reason Rosen’s rehearsing footage is there where he’s rehearsing his lines: What is that video doing on the internet? How did it get there? Who recorded it? Why is it there? It’s there to generate controversy.
Why wouldn’t they edit that bit out on the Robbie Parker footage? They left it in there on purpose because they wanted it in there.
There are so many things that are set up there purposefully to trap the Truth movement.
The fact that the last drawing just happened to be an owl.
They are taunting you. They want conflict. They did it this way so that it will create conflict. And it will also vilify the Truth movement.
It will make all those who’ve stood up to the government look like crazies.
People will go research and they’ll be feed massive amounts of disinformation. So all the good information will be discounted on these sights, as well.

dianna
16th April 2013, 17:04
Not so fast there young dianna...:nono:

Infowars supports your initial conclusion...:yes4:

...................................

Family Guy Episode Predicted Boston Marathon Attack

Scenes deleted for rebroadcasts

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
April 16, 2013


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmGNtasS_3Q&feature=player_embedded

An episode of the popular show Family Guy which was first aired less than a month ago eerily predicted aspects of the Boston Marathon attack, depicting the main character detonating two bombs in addition to winning the marathon by killing the rest of the participants.

The episode, named Turban Cowboy, centers around Peter becoming embroiled with terrorists who plan on blowing up bridges in Boston. The show aired on March 17, just under a month ago on the Fox network and has been repeated in recent days.

The image of Peter killing the Boston Marathon runners even shows blood and missing limbs, a chilling reminder of the very real scenes of carnage we saw yesterday.

It is important to note that the video shows two clips from different points of the show edited together, but they are from the same episode.

Critics responded to the episode by remarking that it “feels like an episode made in 2002 and left on the shelf for a decade.”

The plot was so similar to the tragic events in Boston yesterday that scenes have been deleted for rebroadcasts.

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/family-guy-episode-predicted-boston-marathon-attack.html[/QUOTE]

OK Jacko -- I can go back to being disturbed now LOL:twitch:

Carmody
16th April 2013, 17:27
"The Everything Balances Out" dept. :

One of the very last loopholes for the linear minded ground-pounder minded..the proof of 'spooky action at a distance, 'out of time' (FTL) has been covered, in a very conclusive way.

It was announced on the same day as the marathon.

That time and space is not what the linear minded think it is. It has been CONCLUSIVELY PROVEN, in scientific terms, for science and in the face of science. That the conclusion that was brought about before, has been capable of being ignored due to small potential holes, room for error, room for other interpretations, room to lie to themselves. They could hide in the tiny space, or corner of 'potential' for the answers to be wrong.

This floor, that corner, that cover, that set of rose colored glasses, that attempt at stubbornly holding out against the evidence...... has been removed... and the linear minded, in the world of science, are now on the outside and in total free fall.


http://www.arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1212/1212.0533.pdf

Tesla_WTC_Solution
16th April 2013, 17:31
KILLERS IS WHAT THEY ARE
Nazis the real terrorists in America




http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/15/trial-of-neo-nazi-mass-murderer-delayed-over-press-access-issues/
Trial of neo-Nazi mass murderer delayed over press access issues
By Agence France-Presse
Monday, April 15, 2013 12:45 EDT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDbkNyhZJFw
Youtube: Neo Nazi wants mass murder

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting
Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting
August 5, 2012

http://news.yahoo.com/joplin-mosque-razed-fire-2nd-blaze-summer-160342127.html
Joplin mosque razed in fire; 2nd blaze this summer
By MARIA SUDEKUM | Associated Press – Mon, Aug 6, 2012

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/11/co-founder-sheds-light-on-aryan-brotherhood/2074789/
Co-founder sheds light on Texas' Aryan Brotherhood
Kevin Johnson, USA TODAY 2:44 p.m. EDT April 12, 2013

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_Brotherhood
The Aryan Brotherhood, also known as The Brand, the AB, Alice Baker, or the One-Two, is a white supremacist prison gang and organized crime syndicate in the United States with about 20,000 members in and out of prison.[6][7] According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the gang makes up less than 1% of the prison population, but it is responsible for up to 20% of murders in the federal prison system.

Carmody
16th April 2013, 17:38
The use of ball bearings... that sounds home grown. Lets ban ball bearings now. From now on, there must be a background check before you can purchase ball bearings. But it's not the ball bearing that's dangerous, its the person with the ball bearing. OK, well, if you want some ball bearings go to the doctor's office and visit a psychiatrist (subjective as that is) get checked out and come back with the appropriate doctor's notes. One bad apple, you know. And no more Marathons. Marathons are public gatherings that are just asking for terror.

Its a crying shame when you no longer trust your government or their media.

You have to ban the entire makeup, toiletries and cleaning departments at all pool supply shops, paint shops, pharmacies, department stores and grocery shops.

All of them, not one bit of that material left.

For the vast majority of it is chemicals that are highly catalytic, acidic, or alkaline. (very low pH or very high pH)

95-99% of the people reading this, right now, have enough materials in their house, to do the same, if they knew how to put it together.

The capacity has always been there, vilifying the public is a fascist control attempt.

Carmody
16th April 2013, 17:53
Additionally, as a thought..the only reason that Korea is broken up into two warring parts..is so two elitist forces can have a line of demarcation in the physical land mass area (of asia), as a potential front line in incursions against one another, in an act of physical land borne war.

Those folks have all been in some form of hell, for personal elitist reasons, for the past 60 years.

Same for Israel.

How long has this been going on? For quite some time. A recent take on the situation, in 1895, by Rudyard Kipling:

"When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier. "

Lettherebelight
16th April 2013, 18:09
They will pin it on far-right-wing extremists. Some Tea Party prepper! Although there is no evidence yet, the insinuations are there. An unfolding story with each emerging interview.

This, in turn, this will bolster support for the 'big American gun grab' from those 'crazy gun-toting patriots'!

Let's watch what happens next...

Zelig
16th April 2013, 18:49
"All American Airlines Flights Grounded"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-16/all-american-airlines-flights-grounded

ThePythonicCow
16th April 2013, 20:01
The only thing I can definitively conclude at this point is that our $60,000,000,000 a year Intelligence budget can’t keep us safe. :rolleyes:

That money is not spent to keep us safe from some evil enemy. It is spent to keep the elite safe from us.

Similarly the Secret Service that guards the President and a few other prominent government officials is not there to keep those officials safe from us commoners. It is spent to keep the elite safe from those officials. Just ask JFK (oops - guess you can't ask him - the Secret Service killed him for getting in the way of the elite's interests.)

dianna
16th April 2013, 20:07
They will pin it on far-right-wing extremists. Some Tea Party prepper! Although there is no evidence yet, the insinuations are there. An unfolding story with each emerging interview.

This, in turn, this will bolster support for the 'big American gun grab' from those 'crazy gun-toting patriots'!

Let's watch what happens next...

It just flashed on the TV screen that police are now "scanning radical websites" it seems, based on the "crude" explosive devices that were used --- not sure what radical is meaning to them, but I think we can see where this investigation might be heading ---

RunningDeer
16th April 2013, 20:24
"All American Airlines Flights Grounded"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-16/all-american-airlines-flights-grounded

What's that saying? "Every cloud has a silver lining."
No flights. No chemtrails? Blue skies.

But ...
Financial justification to raise ticket prices in the upcoming busy season with weddings, graduations, & summer travel.

I'll spare everyone the TSA justification speech.

Octavusprime
16th April 2013, 20:47
Many arsonist are fire fighters wanting to be "heroes". Many cases exist where firefighters intentionally start fires just to come to the rescue. I have a cousin who was arrested for this. Could it be that someone in the bomb squad, someone who could get access to the site, has the knowledge to not only detonate but to disarm bombs, is the the same person that set the bombs. Just a thought.

Something is fishy that is for sure. Doesn't seem like a terrorist action. Then again it is a mass gathering of mostly Americans so you get a lot of bang for your buck. No pun intended.

The president has gotten pretty good at sneaking executive orders through. Who gave him the right? I'm pretty sure We the People did not. Dictatorship comes in many forms it seems...

Helvetic
16th April 2013, 21:17
Boston: Authorities "Must Have Known" About Bombing

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Description:
Alastair Stevenson is thankful he was able to finish the Boston Marathon in the time he did.

Had he not, the tragic circumstances unfolding in downtown Boston might have personally affected him.

"My wife, Melanie, was sitting in the same exact spot (where the explosion occurred) for five hours," Stevenson, cross country coach for both the men's and women's teams at the University of Mobile, said today. "She got up and left when I finished the race. Had I run slower, it might have been a different ball game."

Stevenson, 37, ran and completed his first Boston Marathon, leaving the scene once his race was over so he could get a shower. He and his wife were returning to the finish line area when two blasts went off killing two people and reportedly injuring at least 28. More Here: http://blog.al.com/live/2013/04/boston_marathon_explosion_univ.html

Vitalux
16th April 2013, 21:30
I adore this communities ability to be aware. :hug:

I often tell my friends, about this community. I am grateful to be part of the community.

Shame on you again USA Government for your state sponsored false flag domestic terror.

It is just a shame that we can't alert all those poor souls that are sucked in watching CNN.
The Television Propaganda Machine is alive and well.
http://www.media-studies.ca/articles/images/reporter.jpg

Cidersomerset
16th April 2013, 22:18
We are back to 'CIADA' the group that pulled off the most daring raid on 9/11 are now 'cooking the Books' !! A bit of a come down !!


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Home-made devices in Boston Marathon attack were made from pressure cooker
bombs - al Qaeda's 'most effective weapon' - and featured in terror guide 'Make a
Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom'

Police believe shrapnel consisting of metal fragments and nails was packed into
pressure cookers and designed to look like discarded items
Pressure cooker bomb is preferred weapon of al Qaeda, and was used in Times
Square bomb attempt in 2010

Authorities reportedly find circuit board that may have been used to detonate bomb

Doctor says that numerous sharp metal objects were extracted from victims of the blasts


By Thomas Durante and Associated Press

PUBLISHED: 04:24, 16 April 2013 | UPDATED: 22:38, 16 April 2013

The terrorist or group behind the horrific Boston Marathon carnage detonated two
bombs made from kitchen pressure cookers packed with metallic pieces and nails -
a method that has been featured in a notorious terror propaganda article.


The twin bombing at the finish line of the historic race killed at least three people -
including an 8-year-old boy - while injuring 176 others.

A bomb designed from a pressure cooker is a preferred weapon of al Qaeda
terrorists, and was listed as the 'most effective' weapon of jihad in the English-
language terror magazine called Inspire.

Instructions on how to build a pressure cooker bomb were featured in the infamous
Inspire article 'Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom.'



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The terrorist or group behind the horrific Boston Marathon carnage detonated two
bombs made from kitchen pressure cookers packed with metallic pieces and nails -
a method that has been featured in a notorious terror propaganda article.


The twin bombing at the finish line of the historic race killed at least three people -
including an 8-year-old boy - while injuring 176 others.

A bomb designed from a pressure cooker is a preferred weapon of al Qaeda
terrorists, and was listed as the 'most effective' weapon of jihad in the English-
language terror magazine called Inspire.

Instructions on how to build a pressure cooker bomb were featured in the infamous
Inspire article 'Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom.'


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DAILY NEWS.........

Bombs at Boston Marathon were made from pressure cookers and ball bearings

No suspects named in blast that killed three and injured 176, and authorities
cleared a Saudi man. Obama calls it an 'act of terror.'


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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1317904

Abhaya
16th April 2013, 22:34
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/15/us/boston-marathon-explosions/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Just in. envelope filled with poison called ricin sent to Washington mail facility. Hmmmm similar to the post 911 anthrax scare.

Envelope addressed to Sen. Wicker of Mississippi.

Hmmm so now we have pressure cooker bomb. Favorite method of al Qaeda. And now another Al Qaeda favorite. I think I see where this may be going.

Taurean
16th April 2013, 22:38
Walk past thousands of people carrying a pressure cooker in today's modern surveillance society and deposit in trash can, - naaaaah journalistic NLP

Here's how it was done

Referee
17th April 2013, 00:11
You Tube censoring Family Guy episode...

viShy5Wvly8

turiya
17th April 2013, 02:21
Not so fast there young dianna...:nono:
Infowars supports your initial conclusion...:yes4:
...................................
Family Guy Episode Predicted Boston Marathon Attack
Scenes deleted for rebroadcasts
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
April 16, 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmGNtasS_3Q&feature=player_embedded
An episode of the popular show Family Guy which was first aired less than a month ago eerily predicted aspects of the Boston Marathon attack, depicting the main character detonating two bombs in addition to winning the marathon by killing the rest of the participants.

The episode, named Turban Cowboy, centers around Peter becoming embroiled with terrorists who plan on blowing up bridges in Boston. The show aired on March 17, just under a month ago on the Fox network and has been repeated in recent days.
The image of Peter killing the Boston Marathon runners even shows blood and missing limbs, a chilling reminder of the very real scenes of carnage we saw yesterday.
It is important to note that the video shows two clips from different points of the show edited together, but they are from the same episode.
Critics responded to the episode by remarking that it “feels like an episode made in 2002 and left on the shelf for a decade.”
The plot was so similar to the tragic events in Boston yesterday that scenes have been deleted for rebroadcasts.
*********************
http://www.prisonplanet.com/family-guy-episode-predicted-boston-marathon-attack.html

Strange, even though the video has been taken down, Paul Joseph Watson's version with commentary can still be viewed here on this website where I posted it. This may soon change, as this, too, maybe taken down. So, catch it while you can at the following link: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2056073, or as posted below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WQeqE943Uo

turiya :cool:

jackovesk
17th April 2013, 03:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcw9J6QNPVU

UPDATE

Comments on youtube suggest that this clip is actually from two different episodes --- what kind of idiot would do such a thing --- I was so disturbed by it!

My apologies for posting so quickly --- it is not my intention to post BS on this site

Not so fast there young dianna...:nono:

Infowars supports your initial conclusion...:yes4:

...................................

Family Guy Episode Predicted Boston Marathon Attack

Scenes deleted for rebroadcasts

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
April 16, 2013


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmGNtasS_3Q&feature=player_embedded

An episode of the popular show Family Guy which was first aired less than a month ago eerily predicted aspects of the Boston Marathon attack, depicting the main character detonating two bombs in addition to winning the marathon by killing the rest of the participants.

The episode, named Turban Cowboy, centers around Peter becoming embroiled with terrorists who plan on blowing up bridges in Boston. The show aired on March 17, just under a month ago on the Fox network and has been repeated in recent days.

The image of Peter killing the Boston Marathon runners even shows blood and missing limbs, a chilling reminder of the very real scenes of carnage we saw yesterday.

It is important to note that the video shows two clips from different points of the show edited together, but they are from the same episode.

Critics responded to the episode by remarking that it “feels like an episode made in 2002 and left on the shelf for a decade.”

The plot was so similar to the tragic events in Boston yesterday that scenes have been deleted for rebroadcasts.

*********************

http://www.prisonplanet.com/family-guy-episode-predicted-boston-marathon-attack.html

Here's the (MSM PRESSTITUTES) response from Australia...

CONSPIRACIES fly over Family Guy Boston Marathon explosion video



• Conspiracy over 'man on roof' during Boston explosion
• Which emotional Boston Marathon stories are fake?
• Patton Oswald's stirring Boston Marathon tribute

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2013/04/17/1226622/338111-family-guy.jpg
Do people just sit on episodes like this and wait for bad things to happen so they can edit together the next big controversy? Just don't.


FAMILY Guy has become involved in a conspiracy theory hoax that "stands alone in its bat****tiness", Gawker reports.

("BECAUSE 'PEOPLE' ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST"), someone edited together two separate scenes from the adult-rated comedy to make it appear as though protagonist Peter Griffin used a mobile phone to remotely detonate two devices in order to win the Boston Marathon.

The clip begins with Griffin being interviewed on the news after winning the Boston Marathon. The newsreader asks: "Peter, how did you do it?"

The video then flashes to a scene of Griffin sitting in a bar, dialling a number on his mobile phone. A sound of an explosion can be heard off camera as he raises the phone to his ear.

"Damn phone's busted," he says. "Maybe I dialled wrong."

He then proceeds to dial the phone a second time, when a second explosion is heard.

The two scenes featured in the video actually occur many minutes apart and are part of two completely separate jokes.

The offensive clip was shared online by conspiracy nuts such as Alex Jones, founder of conspiracy website InfoWars. Jones completely failed to inform his audience that the clip was doctored in order to advance his theory that the explosions at the Boston Marathon was all part of a government scheme to "take our civil liberties and promote homeland security".

It wasn't long before creator of Family Guy Seth MacFarlane weighed in on the video, calling it "abhorrent" on Twitter.

Fox has also pulled the episode which aired a month ago in the US from all digital outlets such as Fox.com and Hulu.

However the video is still on YouTube and has been viewed almost 200,000 times.

The video comes less than 24 hours after the internet got all hot and bothered over a picture of a man on a roof taken during the explosion. Apparently being male, dressed in black, on a roof was enough evidence the web needed to convince themselves that he was somehow involved in the tragedy. There are reports the man was a Boston Marathon security guard that was clearing the area. But that hasn't stopped people jumping on the bandwagon.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/conspiracies-fly-over-family-guy-boston-marathon-explosion-video/story-e6frfro0-1226622349782

PS - Where there's (SMOKE) there's (FIRE)...:yes4:

Question:


WHY do the (MSM PRESSTITUTES) constantly feel the need to defend themselves..?

Answer:


Because their (GUILTY as HELL), that's Why..! :wizard:

PSS - Having to try and 'VALIDATE/COINTELPRO' this so called 'CONSPIRACY' You Tube Clip shows their 'Message' is 'Wallowing' & their 'PROPAGANDA' is 'Waning' so much so try are becoming...


DESPERATE...:)

Earth Angel
17th April 2013, 03:51
they did splice two episodes together but there was still ONE episode where Peter Won the Boston Marathon by driving his car through it and killing anyone who got in his way and another episode where he is dressed in middle east type garb and using his cell phones twice and each time you hear a bomb going off......so it is odd that those two scenarios exist on the same show.....but yes they were not on the same episode.

Deej
17th April 2013, 04:01
Oh NOooes!!! Look at this!!

Guess what happened while America's eyes were on Boston

Yeah... still think the Guberment didn't know this was going to happen?

Congress Acts Quickly to Kill Transparency For Their Own Shady Insider Trading

"What could make the House pass something in 30 seconds that the Senate also passed? What would motivate them to put aside their alleged “differences” and act in the best interest of the people? The answer is when they are not acting in the best interest of the people, but rather, in their own best interests.

To that end, late last week, your congress quickly approved a measure that modified (aka, killed) a part of the STOCK Act (Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge Act ), which was only enacted a year ago. The STOCK Act was supposed to address shady stock trades based on insider information.

Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) is taking credit for sponsoring the measure, but clearly he got no pushback from either side of the aisle. Check out the fast movement of this bill, and tell me if you’ve seen anything fly through like this in recent years, sans committee referrals and Speaker John Boehner’s (R-OH) deep debate over what he can even allow for a debate about a vote:

4/11/2013 Introduced in Senate
4/11/2013 Passed/agreed to in Senate: Introduced in the Senate, read twice, considered, read the third time, and passed without amendment by Unanimous Consent.
4/12/2013 Passed/agreed to in House: On passage Passed without objection.
4/12/2013 Presented to President.

On Tuesday the 15th, the President signed the legislation.

The Sunlight Foundation notes that the amendment passed with unanimous consent, though many members had gone home already. Huh. This doesn’t seem to work for measures that protect the security of the American people, like say, jobs. The Sunlight Foundation also pointed out what might be seen as a precursor of times to come, “The bill was not available to the public on the Library of Congress website until after the vote.” NPR noted that it took the House all of 30 seconds. “NPR’s Tamara Keith tells us the House procedure took exactly 30 seconds.”

http://www.politicususa.com/congress-acts-quickly-kill-bill-aim-shady-insider-trading.html

Vitalux
17th April 2013, 04:14
they did splice two episodes together but there was still ONE episode where Peter Won the Boston Marathon by driving his car through it and killing anyone who got in his way and another episode where he is dressed in middle east type garb and using his cell phones twice and each time you hear a bomb going off......so it is odd that those two scenarios exist on the same show.....but yes they were not on the same episode.

this guys again is saying that both scenes are from the SAME episode.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WQeqE943Uo

Referee
17th April 2013, 04:42
More on the FG episode from Chrissy Sumer.... Jacko check it out up your alley IMO

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ThePythonicCow
17th April 2013, 05:02
"The Everything Balances Out" dept. :

One of the very last loopholes for the linear minded ground-pounder minded..the proof of 'spooky action at a distance, 'out of time' (FTL) has been covered, in a very conclusive way.

It was announced on the same day as the marathon.

That time and space is not what the linear minded think it is. It has been CONCLUSIVELY PROVEN, in scientific terms, for science and in the face of science. That the conclusion that was brought about before, has been capable of being ignored due to small potential holes, room for error, room for other interpretations, room to lie to themselves. They could hide in the tiny space, or corner of 'potential' for the answers to be wrong.

This floor, that corner, that cover, that set of rose colored glasses, that attempt at stubbornly holding out against the evidence...... has been removed... and the linear minded, in the world of science, are now on the outside and in total free fall.
The true meaning of these experiments involving the Bell's inequality continues to elude me :).

Here's an article from over a decade ago that at least summarizes the controversy rather well: Bell's inequality test: more ideal than ever (PDF) (http://www-ece.rice.edu/~kono/ELEC565/Aspect_Nature.pdf).

I've just ordered a couple of books from Amazon (1) The Quantum Divide: Why Schrödinger's Cat is Either Dead or Alive, by Christopher C. Gerry, and (2) The Quantum Challenge, Second Edition: Modern Research on the Foundations of Quantum Mechanics by George Greenstein. Perhaps these will be sufficient for me to get my block head around this topic.

On the other hand, perhaps these two books won't be sufficient. Quoting from the end of the PDF I linked:



Whether non-separability of EPR pairs is a real problem or not is a difficult question to settle.

As Richard Feynman once said: “It has not yet become obvious to me that there is no real problem ... I have entertained myself always by squeezing the difficulty of quantum mechanics into a smaller and smaller place, so as to get more and more worried about this particular item. It seems almost ridiculous that you can squeeze it to a numerical question that one thing is bigger than another. But there you are — it is bigger...”.

Yes, it is bigger by 30 standard deviations.

P.S. -- One more good paper on this topic: The EPR paradox, Bell’s inequality, and the question of locality, by Guy Blaylock (PDF) (http://www.stat.physik.uni-potsdam.de/~pikovsky/teaching/stud_seminar/Bell_EPR-1.pdf).

jackovesk
17th April 2013, 05:17
I think this is (Relevant) to just 'WHO' is behind all this and the 'BLIND-FOOLS' who are willing participants in the numerous (COVER-UP's) leading to their ultimate 'DEMISE'...:yes4:

From...


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/customavatars/avatar5896_11.gif (Maia Gabrial's) Thread...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58165-Listen-to-what-the-IllumiNUTTI-s-covenant-says....&p=662537#post662537


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8IyN2TV300&feature=player_embedded


Allegedly written by an Illuminati whistleblower, and just like the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion these writings strike a harsh cord in the hearts and minds of normal, rational human beings since the majority are not on an evil power trip to eradicate their fellow man like these psychopaths.



The Secret Covenant of the Jewish Secret Society Known As the Order of the Illuminati
Issued under the supreme authority of the Jewish Bograh and sanctioned by the Jewish Rothschild Dynasty (Europe) and the Jewish Rockefeller Dynasty (USA)

And heed our word, so mote it be.

******************

THE SECRET COVENANT

An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception.

Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.

We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.

We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute.

We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy. Death will come to he who speaks.

We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.

We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.

We will use soft metals, ageing accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air.

They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison.

The poisons will be absorbed through their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.

From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.

The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.

We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.

We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.

Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.

They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know
their true effect.

When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them it is for their help.

We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.

When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.

When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.

We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.

They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.

We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.

Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon.

We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides.

We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.

They will perform the labour for us and we shall prosper from their toil.

Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.

We will make them kill each other when it suits us.

We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.

We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.

We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves.

We will foment animosity between them through our factions.

When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.

We will make them rip each other's hearts apart and kill their own children.

We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend.

The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers. They will be busy killing each other.

They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbours for as long as we see fit.

We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us.

We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.

We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.

We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though images and sounds.

We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.

The tools will be provided by their labour.

We will make them hate themselves and their neighbours.

We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. This they must never know!

They must never know that colour is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal.

Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.

We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them.

We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have.

We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.

When they shall band together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media.

We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favour.

When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that.

They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.

We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.

The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms. Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars. They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late.

Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.

When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their prison. They will live in self-delusion.

When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin.

Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.

But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.

If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action.

They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.

This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.

This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came.

This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist. It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.


PS - Sound (Familiar) anyone..???

Holly Lindin
17th April 2013, 05:38
For what it's worth, the two spliced parts of the "Family Guy" video ARE part of the same episode (I watched it today to double-check.) - it's just that they're about ten to fifteen minutes apart and definitely taken outta context in regards to what the episode was really about. They were two events completely disconnected from each other. (But I hafta wonder who some of these writers are - perhaps every show employs a shill for the eugenics-loving globalists or two now? This wouldn't be the first time I've seen something synchronous to World events on any of Seth MacFarlane's shows.)

And the episode of "American Dad!" just this past Sunday had two characters (Haley and Snot.) talking about a date they'd just had. Here's the script verbatim from the episode:

HALEY: ". . . I wasn't really looking forward to this night. But I had a BLAST."

SNOT: "Well, call the bomb squad 'cause, with the blast *I* had, that makes TWO blasts!" (holding up two fingers)

I don't subscribe to "coincidence", so this episode - paired with the interesting synchronicity in "Family Guy"'s "Turban Cowboy" episode . . . Well, you can probably see what side of the fence I'm occupying regarding the Boston Marathon. My only intent is for people to continue waking up and speaking out - I feel we're at a breaking point where ridicule and societal alienation is mattering less and less to those of us who have chosen the path of Truth. So keep on keepin' on, Avalonians! :) <3

ThePythonicCow
17th April 2013, 08:05
A worthwhile quote from Boston Marathon Bombing: Who Do They Plan To Blame? (Alt-Market.com) (http://www.alt-market.com/articles/1447-boston-marathon-bombing-who-do-they-plan-to-blame):




Vincenzo Vinciguerra, a far-right terrorist linked to Gladio and currently serving a life-sentence for the car bomb murder of three policemen stated during sworn testimony on Gladio in March of 2001:

“You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game…”

“The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security. This is the political logic that lies behind all the massacres and the bombings which remain unpunished, because the state cannot convict itself or declare itself responsible for what happened…”
The following book has been sitting in my "pile of books to read" queue for a while. It just got moved to the front of the queue. Gladio, NATO's Dagger at the Heart of Europe: The Pentagon-Nazi-Mafia Terror Axis by Richard Cottrell (http://amzn.com/1615776877).

Gladio ... remember that name. I'm sure our members from Italy will recognize it.

ThePythonicCow
17th April 2013, 08:12
No sooner do I post the above on Gladio, and I find on my next browser tab the following: ITALY’S SUPREME COURT PRESIDENT BLAMES BILDERBERGERS FOR TERRORISM (Joseph P. Farrell) (http://gizadeathstar.com/2013/04/italys-supreme-court-president-blames-bilderbergers-for-terrorism/).

The present day incarnation of Gladio, being called out for prosecution by Italy's Supreme Court President. In Joseph's words:




Major political figures in one of Europe’s major powers have “had it,” and are talking prosecution. That’s the news… and it is in a way good news, because it means that people in positions of real power are getting fed up with the stench emanating from London and New York, and the malodorous people producing it.
It's a good read (well, I'm a Farrell fan ... I find most of his stuff good.) Follow my link above for more.

SilentFeathers
17th April 2013, 12:04
Interesting that this case seems to be "going cold".....if it would of been a crook stealing a huge amount of money from one of the bankers banks this case would of been solved within a few hours.

The case going cold so to speak and very few leads etc is a bit concerning to me, it leaves the door wide open for more strikes IMO. If they would of caught the bombers right away it would of put the nation at ease so to speak, and we all know they don't want that!

....and so it begins.


The devices used in the Boston Marathon attack Monday are typical of the "lone wolf:" the solo terrorist who builds a bomb on his own by following a widely available formula.
In this case, the formula seems very similar to one that al Qaeda has recommended to its supporters around the world as both crudely effective and difficult to trace. But it is also a recipe that has been adopted by extreme right-wing individuals in the United States.
The threat of the "lone wolf" alarms the intelligence community.
"This is what you worry about the most," a source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN's Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger. "No trail, no intelligence."
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/16/us/boston-marathon-lone-wolf/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

turiya
17th April 2013, 12:58
The Question of Motive:
The big question is: Who &/or What entity would gain most from this act of terror?
Answer: The Government should be considered, first & foremost, the prime suspect involved in this case...

When False Flags Don't Fly...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOVICOudMVI

turiya :cool:

witchy1
17th April 2013, 13:46
If anyone is interested on how they do it..... here it is... nice arm amputation at 2.30 and 6.06. From Colorado Aurora centre - 2010


SzHGLdtR2WU

Referee
17th April 2013, 14:35
Some reports of an arrest made just after the explosion....could be something else but I thought it odd....

be-1IhYZUv0

Jeffrey
17th April 2013, 14:43
If anyone is interested on how they do it..... here it is... nice arm amputation at 2.30 and 6.06. From Colorado Aurora centre - 2010


SzHGLdtR2WU

It's great that first responders get this kind of practice so that they'll be better prepared to assist in a real life situation. Such as the one that unfolded in Boston. My thoughts go out to the victims.

People. Use your brains. False flag doesn't automatically imply fake or staged.

Use better judgement. Especially with the man (Jeff) who lost his legs.

You can't just look at a comparison picture with a caption and then buy it -- hook, line, and sinker.

That's not the same person. Dig into it a little more before reposting garbage. It reflects bad on the community and tarnishes any potentially viable information that needs attention.

Quality not quantity.

Mandala
17th April 2013, 15:49
deleted due to incorrect information.

jackovesk
17th April 2013, 15:49
Boston Runners Were Warned: You’re ‘GOING to DIE’

Woman in downtown Boston made pre-attack threat

April 17, 2013

One of the participants in the Boston Marathon says runners were warned they were “going to die” by a woman in downtown Boston two days before the twin bombings which killed three and injured more than 140 people.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=046MuD1pYJg&feature=player_embedded
“Mike Heiliger, 59, said a woman holding several bags was telling runners who were picking up their pre-race packages in downtown Boston on Saturday (April 13) that they were going to die if they participated in the event,” reports the SquamishChief.com (http://www.squamishchief.com/article/20130415/SQUAMISH0101/130419985/-1/squamish/boston-runners-were-warned-squamish-man).

“It was a little creepy because you can identify who the runners are and I heard her say to this runner two feet away from me that, ‘If you run tomorrow you’re going to die,’” said Heiliger, adding that the woman was holding two bags as if she had just got off a plane.

Heiliger called police to report the incident after the bombings took place.

Authorities in Boston have denied that there was any intelligence beforehand which warned of an attack, despite eyewitness Ali Stevenson insisting that police “must have known” about the bombing based on their behavior throughout the race.

According to Stevenson, a University of Mobile Cross Country Coach, runners were told not to be alarmed on the morning of the race as police conducted an “exercise” involving bomb sniffing dogs and positioned spotters on rooftops.

“Evidently, I don’t believe they were just having a training exercise, they must have known,” Stevenson told Local15 News (http://www.local15tv.com/news/local/story/UM-Coach-Bomb-Sniffing-Dogs-Spotters-on-Roofs/BrirjAzFPUKKN8z6eSDJEA.cspx). “They must have had some sort of threat or suspicion called in.”

However, during a press conference, Boston police told Infowars reporter Dan Bidondi that there was “no specific intelligence” regarding an attack and that no drills took place besides the usual precautions taken for a big event.

When Bidondi again attempted to ask police about why people were being told to remain calm before the bombs exploded, there was no response.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/boston-runners-were-warned-youre-going-to-die.html

RMorgan
17th April 2013, 15:53
What do you guys think? Is this the same girl who has already died in another shooting?


21167

Anyone could photoshop such image in five minutes.

The only way to validate it is if someone uploads the original videos from which such images were allegedly captured.

So, without the links to the videos, this image is useless.

After the huge public response to the Sandy Hook hoax event, people are throwing tons of disinformation regarding the Boston incident. Watch out and be careful with what you choose to believe.

There´s not much data on this event yet to achieve a proper conclusion; In my opinion, it was really serious and lots of real persons got seriously injured.

As for the motive behind it, we will have to wait to see if it was an independent terrorist attack or an inside job with a political agenda behind it. Whatever happens in the next couple of weeks, it will give us the necessary data to achieve a definitive conclusion.

jackovesk
17th April 2013, 16:44
Boston Bombs, The Fed Goes “Terminator”

April 16th, 2013

“Sandy Hook Redux”

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ScreenHunter_1534-Apr.-16-17.34-640x417.jpg

Thus far, all evidence regarding the bombings at the Boston Marathon finish line on “Patriots Day,” commemorating the battles of Lexington, points at a mysterious entity suddenly becoming “aware” and moving to destroy any potential threat to its existence.

We have awakened in a Terminator movie. Here is “blind clue” number one, before we are done there will be a hundred or more, carefully orchestrated to feed and discredit those investigating a very real conspiracy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRzmVsqL-dc
The mysterious entity is the Federal Reserve, a group of banks, mostly believed to be European, the ownership and real management totally unknown, that controls, not just America’s economic system but nearly every other central bank in the world. Investigations have shown that “the Fed” has broken away from all oversight, has taken on its own military and intelligence service and has become a defacto “super-national” entity, not just controlling world economies but now, through Google, a series of Blackwater analogs and partnerships with AIPAC, NATO and the drug cartels, is now able to wage war and dispense “justice.”

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ScreenHunter_1538-Apr.-16-20.47.jpg

The Fed’s first war is, of course, against the US. Toward that end they have taken on gold, silver, moved to run up fuel prices, have tried to crash Bitcoin and are threating they highly secret Reagan/Mitterrand/Wanta protocols that would have erased America’s national debt. (the protocols challenge $10 trillion of the debt as fraudulent and eventually pay off the rest).

Behind the scenes, Secretary Hagel and General Dempsey, those who run America’s military, are quickly rooting out the Generals and Admirals who were planning a “patriotic revolt” to “restore the constitution.”

Those “FEMA camps” Alex Jones talks about weren’t imaginary. They are real as any nightmare. What is both shameful and sad is that millions of Americans who would have been good, decent Americans, out of total stupidity, became dupes of Wall Street, the Fed and enemies we will never be able to name, buying in on “psyop” emails, wild rumors and childish scare tactics.

“Boston” is just one in a series of tableaus we can expect, all intended to exploit the flaws in the American character.

THAT SMELL, THAT “FALSE FLAG” SMELL

Why are all terror attacks either coincidentally timed to coincide with a “terror drill” or planned by the FBI who then “finds” needed “warm bodies” from the local “Koran remedial reading group?”

We have proof positive that our government is lying about the incident in Boston. This news report makes it fully clear that a full scale “terror drill” was going on at the Boston Marathon. Do we want to term this another “intelligence failure catastrophe” or take our suspicions further?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HWRQ8YnrWg
To open that door, you know the one, the same one that debunked the lone gunman version of Sandy Hook, we begin with this news video with a very curious mistake:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1GSIkifelk
With all that is going on in America, including but not limited to what is public, domestic terror scares, gun confiscation scares or the machinations of the Federal Reserve System, any act of terror is immediately looked upon as time to distract or to manipulate.

SANDY HOOK AND BEFORE

With literally hundreds of Sandy Hook lies exposed, phony parents caught giggling while prepping for tearful interviews to disappearing arrested killers to a litany of extremely serious contradictions, America’s next iconic terror attack, limbs strewn, an 8 year old sacrificed, a patriotic holiday stained forever, America will be split into two camps, believers and those who think.

With two fatal lies exposed in two videos, ”Boston” is exposed as a false flag terror attack so carelessly planned that the press wasn’t even notified of their role. Thus, the mainstream “pop-culture media” blew this one out of the water.

We ask, “What if there are only these two videos?”

OJ was found “not guilty” of much less, a pair of gloves.

This reminds me of the story of a priest. When arrested for child molestation, he queries the police, “But I only had sex with just one little boy?”

The issue with iconic acts of false flag terror is always the same, who benefits? Stage two of the controlled media is now trying to find “domestic patriot groups” or mysterious Saudi terrorists to blame.

Then we begin to think. What about all those videos from Sandy Hook, the school psychologist who identified the son of a kindergarten teacher, one she “looked in the eye,” only to recant a day later. How about the assault rifle that became a shotgun in the trunk of a car that belonged to someone who lived 40 miles away.

Who was chased and arrested in the woods behind the school? Please remember, we didn’t just receive an excuse on this, the entire incident was erased from our memories, or so we are to believe.

Then I think of Norway and Breivik. We are asked to forget his car bomb, two tons of ammonium nitrate packed inside an Opel Corsa that Hertz says can carry only one suitcase. Check on that if you might. If you believe the news, everyone in Norway belongs to the police Freemason Lodge, has police uniforms and an assault rifle. Oh, others were arrested there too and disappeared.

Remember the Detroit “crotch bomber,” there was someone else arrested there also? Here even Fox News reports that highly credible eyewitnesses report that the “terrorist” was escorted onto the plane by what appeared to be FBI agents.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WDvLs4YdQ8
Oh, 9/11, arrests there too, also disappeared:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNGPFVOYmhg
Of course, 9/11 happened on a day when the US military was holding an air defense drill, with all planes too busy practicing shooting down hijacked airliners to manage to chase down what we are told were three real ones.

As for terror attacks coinciding with drills, the 7/7 attack in London is the all time prize winner. There, an Israeli group was hired to simulate a bombing attack on the London Underground, hiring young Islamic men as actors to carry bombs that later turned out to be real. As Jim W. Dean so often says, “You just can’t make things like this up.”

“Busting” the real terrorists nearly put John Anthony Hill in prison. His DVD exposing the truth was found, by a British jury, to be a credible version of the facts, meaning: “7/7 was a proven false flag terror attack.”

You want hard proof? Here it is, ignore it, deny it but expect to die from the consequences of your actions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwThcdIoufc
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/16/boston-bombs-the-fed-goes-terminator/

SilentFeathers
17th April 2013, 17:03
Well, the way I see it, you all may as well call me a conspiracy theorists, because to me this has false flag/staged event written all over it. Now gov. officials are getting poisoned mail with ricin???? Can't ya see the pattern here folk's?

Listen to the narrative in the video posted in the quote/article/link below and then tell me they are not about to pin these bombings on some right wing nut job who loves guns....This is Sandy Hook phase two folk's!


The FBI has confirmed that a suspicious envelope addressed to U.S. President Barack Obama and intercepted at a mail screening facility has tested positive for ricin, a deadly poison.
The envelope was immediately quarantined by U.S. Secret Service personnel, and a coordinated investigation with the FBI was initiated, authorities confirmed on Wednesday.
The letter addressed to Obama was intercepted shortly after a similar envelope was mailed to Mississippi Republican Sen. Roger Wicker. That letter tested positive on Tuesday for ricin.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/suspicious-letter-sent-to-obama-tested-positive-for-ricin-fbi-1.1241778

Incompetence or are our law enforcement etc blind????? or both????

Near the finish line of the marathon you have local police, special tactical units, swat, bomb sniffing dogs, AND Homeland Security ect., all over the place like flies on sh*t, yet some how a bomber carrying not one, but two huge pressure cooker type bombs in two large black duffle bags planted these bombs unnoticed in the midst of all these security teams and past bomb sniffing dogs??????????????????? yeah right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and now this bomber, that must have a high tech magical cloaking device, is sending people in Washington, even the president, ricin laced pen pal letters?????????? yeah right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've seen enough of this crap since 911, and especially just in the last year, to know a quacking duck when I hear and see one.

Perhaps I'm wrong about this? But I highly doubt that I am......the writing on the wall is the same ole same ole.

I'm calling this Sandy Hook phase two.

jackovesk
17th April 2013, 17:11
Planting the Seed of Propaganda: Media Repeatedly Suggests Patriots are Responsible for Boston Marathon Bombing

http://prism-magazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Right-Wing-Extremism.jpg

Not unlike the horrible shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School, the Boston Marathon bombing has become a ”blame-it-on-patriots” (http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/the-psy-ops-war-on-preppers-12172012) media event. Without any proof whatsoever, speculation in the mainstream media is pointing the finger directly at people who believe in independence and freedom from tyranny.

None of the mainstream outlets is asking why a person against paying taxes or someone who is pro-Constitution would attempt to harm people out enjoying a race. They are simply looking for a scapegoat. And no kid on the playground is more unpopular than the one who refuses to be herded along with the other children.

Instead of pulling together in solidarity to support the victims of this horrible attack, the “divide-and-conquer” campaign was underway within an hour of the first bomb detonating.

- See more at:

http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/planting-the-seed-of-propaganda-media-repeatedly-suggests-patriots-are-responsible-for-boston-marathon-bombing-04162013

PS - The (Chief BITCH) getting her kicks...:mad2:

I know your not meant to use this 'Word' here at Avalon...

...But Fk-it

I (HATE) that BITCH..!!! :yes4:

Maia Gabrial
17th April 2013, 17:17
Another false flag attack again?

Looks like it, Wind. IMO anything that doesn't bring us together, heal us or reveals the truth for us is just another false flag....

RMorgan
17th April 2013, 17:18
Check this out:


Law enforcement officials in Boston tell reporters that they may have identified the suspect thought responsible for Monday’s deadly bombing that has so far claimed three lives.

Just after 1 p.m. local time on Wednesday, CNN reported that a suspect has apparently been identified, but no other details have been released at this time. It is unknown as to whether or not the suspect has been detained, and his name and identify have not been made public as of this time.

According to CNN’s sources, surveillance video from a Lord and Taylor department store and a local television station are believed to have helped authorities identify the person sought responsible for Monday’s incident, which US President Barack Obama said on Tuesday is being investigated as an act of terror.

CNN’s John King reports from Boston that the video footage helped police narrow in on a person being considered a suspect in the attack “to such detail, I’m told, that they believe they have a clear identification, including a facial image of a suspect.”

The footage, sources say, show the suspect carrying and perhaps placing down a black bag that is thought to have contained one of the two bombs that detonated near the finish line of the annual Boston Marathon just before 3 p.m. on Monday.

The mayor of Boston, Massachusetts has confirmed that a suspect was ID’d.
source: http://rt.com/usa/boston-bombing-identified-suspect-014/

I´ve found this picture at GLP forum. Looks like he´s the suspect they´re talking about in the above article; The backpack looks the same and his way to carry it is indeed a bit unusual.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BICVI8YCMAIff7i.jpg:large

Raf.

Conchis
17th April 2013, 17:31
Here is another source with additional photos. Some of them are pretty impressive. Of course, who knows, but these are definitely worth checking out. A couple of these guys are basically in what looks like military gear.

http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombing-culprits-found/

Valle
17th April 2013, 17:38
Preliminary tests show letter to Obama contains poison ricin
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/17/us-usa-obama-letter-idUSBRE93G0OU20130417

Do they want people to connect there own dots..?
"There is no indication of a connection to the attack in Boston, where three people were killed in bombings at the Boston Marathon on Monday."

jackovesk
17th April 2013, 17:40
Check this out:


Law enforcement officials in Boston tell reporters that they may have identified the suspect thought responsible for Monday’s deadly bombing that has so far claimed three lives.

Just after 1 p.m. local time on Wednesday, CNN reported that a suspect has apparently been identified, but no other details have been released at this time. It is unknown as to whether or not the suspect has been detained, and his name and identify have not been made public as of this time.

According to CNN’s sources, surveillance video from a Lord and Taylor department store and a local television station are believed to have helped authorities identify the person sought responsible for Monday’s incident, which US President Barack Obama said on Tuesday is being investigated as an act of terror.

CNN’s John King reports from Boston that the video footage helped police narrow in on a person being considered a suspect in the attack “to such detail, I’m told, that they believe they have a clear identification, including a facial image of a suspect.”

The footage, sources say, show the suspect carrying and perhaps placing down a black bag that is thought to have contained one of the two bombs that detonated near the finish line of the annual Boston Marathon just before 3 p.m. on Monday.

The mayor of Boston, Massachusetts has confirmed that a suspect was ID’d.
source: http://rt.com/usa/boston-bombing-identified-suspect-014/

I´ve found this picture at GLP forum. Looks like he´s the suspect they´re talking about in the above article; The backpack looks the same and his way to carry it is indeed a bit unusual.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BICVI8YCMAIff7i.jpg:large

Raf.

I think you have to wait until 'FRIDAY' (US Time) before they reveal their 'PATSY'...:yes4:

SilentFeathers
17th April 2013, 17:59
The two guys all in black with communication wires in their ears look like agents to me....the guy with the blue jacket with his duffle bag easily hanging on one arm and that looks like it may have about 2 pounds of nothing in it looks like their right wing nut job patsy to me....(common sense says you do not hold a 6litre pressure cooker loaded down with ball bearings and nails and explosives easily drapped over one arm like that!)

http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombing-culprits-found/

IMO it is obvious this guy is not holding onto a 6 litre pressure cooker loaded down with possibly 30 to 40 lbs of ballbearings, nails, and explosives! I work construction and know what a rather small box/case of nails weigh!

http://i.imgur.com/BG2guiQ.jpg

ADDED: It wouldn't surprise me if the guy in the blue jackets last name is "Oswald"

Earth Angel
17th April 2013, 18:12
why is it that Seth McFalane finds it Abhorrent that people spliced two scenes from ONE show together..he put the scene of Peter winning the Boston marathon by killing anyone who got in his way in the episode, he put the scene of Peter using a terrorists phone and setting off bombs.......he makes a living off of other tragedies.......he has usedt the Lockerbie bombings for his humour, he has had Stewie saying " shake me like an english nanny" in reference to Matthew Eappen being shaken to death by a young English nanny.......but I guess maybe this is the first time he has actual predicted an event, instead of just using it to make his shows........or PERHAPS the government is getting their plans from watching Family Guy !!

It reminds me of Obama
"This was a heinous and cowardly act, and given what we now know about what took place, the FBI is investigating it as an act of terrorism. Any time bombs are used to target innocent civilians it is an act of terror," Obama said.

How do they say these things with a straight face? how do people actually listen to this and not laugh out loud at the hyprocracy!

Zelig
17th April 2013, 18:32
Boston Bombing Suspect Arrested... Or Not

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-17/boston-bombing-suspect-arrested

Abhaya
17th April 2013, 18:56
Infowars has some amazing pictures just posted on their most recent update.

http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombing-culprits-found/

Just blew my mind.

Abhaya
17th April 2013, 19:03
Just in on CNN Boston hospital being evacuated. No reason yet

Zelig
17th April 2013, 19:09
I believe it's the courthouse being evacuated.


Just in on CNN Boston hospital being evacuated. No reason yet

Abhaya
17th April 2013, 19:19
I believe it's the courthouse being evacuated.


Just in on CNN Boston hospital being evacuated. No reason yet


Looks like it was both..... People are being let back in the hospital. Bomb threats??

Jeffrey
17th April 2013, 19:45
What do you guys think? Is this the same girl who has already died in another shooting?


21167

Yes, that picture is of Dawn Hochsprung. However, the caption on the right says Donna (as in Donna Page) -- she was/is the interim principal at Sandy Hook after the shootings. The news did not say that Donna died. In fact, you can see from the caption that Donna was a few blocks away when the bombs exploded.

Dawn's picture was probably used in the story to introduce who Donna is.

Mandala
17th April 2013, 20:35
Latter this afternoon after that picture was sent to me, I found someone had stamped it disinformation. So I'm thinking someone photo shopped the old principal's picture in place of the new interim principal's real picture on the right. Why would someone do that? Sick, sick people.

Anchor
18th April 2013, 00:42
As previously stated, IMO this is not a false flag, but will be adopted into whatever agenda a false flag would have served

Here is my speculation:

1) Disgruntled person/group - domestic, homemade bombs, trying to blackmail Bloomberg for some reason

2) Bloomberg wont "negotiate with terrorists" and wont stop the marathon.

3) Bloomberg gets police in and bomb people to hunt down the bombs and releases media cover of a drill to reduce panic and allow marathon to continue

4) They miss two bombs which, sadly, do go off.

5) Cover-up of bad decisions ensues.

I think its not unreasonable to assume whoever did it could be aware of, and could have weaved in a few conspiracy style "hooks" such as: Illuminati cards, diary dates, tv show mentions etc into their plot in order to keep people on the conspiracy forums happy and distracted. The training drill plays to that agenda as well.

All said and done we have a tragedy with real harm done to many people physical, emotional and spiritual - and my heart goes out to that suffering wishing speedy healing. What I also see, is a LOT of people being corded into the games and distractions.

RunningDeer
18th April 2013, 01:15
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/infowars_zpseb184ad7.JPG
PROOF! Boston Marathon Bombing is Staged Terror Attack
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Published on Apr 17, 2013

Unlike Oaklahoma City the FBI cannot confiscate all of the surveillance, cell phone, and thousands of cameras that were at the finish line of Boston Marathon. 4Chan posted dozens of photos showing Navy Seal or Private Security personnel carrying the same black back packs which are the same style backpacks showed in FBI photos. It's becoming crystal clear. Get these articles and this video out to everyone you know.

Navy SEALs Spotted at Boston Marathon Wearing Suspicious Backpacks?

jackovesk
18th April 2013, 03:34
Had to go with my 'Gut Feel' on this one...

1st thing I noticed when watching the News was this...

(ALL IN FOR BOSTON..!)

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/876302-boston-explosion-483-x-272.jpg

This image flashed up on screen more than any other picture, my 'Guess' its (ALL IN for the PTW Criminal Terrorists) alright and 'Unfortunately' this is just the start...IMHO...:yes4:


1. Boston (Bombing)

2. Letter sent to Barack Obama tested positive for ricin, FBI says

http://www.news.com.au/world-news/letter-sent-to-barack-obama-contained-supicious-substance-secret-service/story-fndir2ev-1226623056700

3. 'JUST LIKE A BOMB': Toxic fumes spread as Waco burns

April 18, 2013 1:18PM


BREAKING NEWS: People are feared trapped inside burning buildings and under rubble in Waco, Texas after a massive plant explosion. “It was a small fire and then water got sprayed on the ammonia nitrate and it exploded like the Oklahoma City bomb".

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/04/18/1226623/327717-explosion.jpg

http://www.news.com.au/world-news/explosion-at-fertiliser-plant-near-waco-texas/story-fndir2ev-1226623333230

PS - Yep, just like I thought, the PTW are (Now) going for broke...:yes4:

Perhaps now the US (Sleeping Giant) will start (Waking UP) and fast...:noidea:

What a (Hell-Ride)...:faint:

PSS - One things for sure, the PTW are coming & they won't (Stop) until the job is done..!

jackovesk
18th April 2013, 03:47
Infowars has some amazing pictures just posted on their most recent update.

http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombing-culprits-found/

Just blew my mind.

http://static.infowars.com/2013/04/i/general/kylecap2.jpg

Seal Team (Special Ops)

http://i.imgur.com/jCgAf8Y.jpg

PS - Yep, there they are...





Matching 'Earpieces'
Matching 'Jackets'
Matching 'Trousers'
Matching 'Shoes'
Matching 'Backpacks'
Matching 'ID Tags'


In 'Communication' with the guy in the 'Blue Adidas Tracksuit Top' speaking into the 'Fed Issued' comm device..?

http://i.imgur.com/AmMP3z4.jpg

But 'Who' is the PTW/MSM going to pin it on...?

It certainly will come from one of these groups...

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2013/04/18/1226622/676003-boston-marathon-bombings-graphic.jpg

The 'Patsy'..?

http://i.imgur.com/eePetDUh.jpg

or this one..?

http://i.imgur.com/l5aJzYF.gif

jackovesk
18th April 2013, 04:22
As previously stated, IMO this is not a false flag, but will be adopted into whatever agenda a false flag would have served

Here is my speculation:

1) Disgruntled person/group - domestic, homemade bombs, trying to blackmail Bloomberg for some reason

2) Bloomberg wont "negotiate with terrorists" and wont stop the marathon.

3) Bloomberg gets police in and bomb people to hunt down the bombs and releases media cover of a drill to reduce panic and allow marathon to continue

4) They miss two bombs which, sadly, do go off.

5) Cover-up of bad decisions ensues.

I think its not unreasonable to assume whoever did it could be aware of, and could have weaved in a few conspiracy style "hooks" such as: Illuminati cards, diary dates, tv show mentions etc into their plot in order to keep people on the conspiracy forums happy and distracted. The training drill plays to that agenda as well.

All said and done we have a tragedy with real harm done to many people physical, emotional and spiritual - and my heart goes out to that suffering wishing speedy healing. What I also see, is a LOT of people being corded into the games and distractions.


As previously stated, IMO this is not a false flag, but will be adopted into whatever agenda a false flag would have served

Here is my speculation:

1) Disgruntled person/group - domestic, homemade bombs, trying to blackmail Bloomberg for some reason

2) Bloomberg wont "negotiate with terrorists" and wont stop the marathon.

3) Bloomberg gets police in and bomb people to hunt down the bombs and releases media cover of a drill to reduce panic and allow marathon to continue

4) They miss two bombs which, sadly, do go off.

5) Cover-up of bad decisions ensues.

I think its not unreasonable to assume whoever did it could be aware of, and could have weaved in a few conspiracy style "hooks" such as: Illuminati cards, diary dates, tv show mentions etc into their plot in order to keep people on the conspiracy forums happy and distracted. The training drill plays to that agenda as well.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuKNIUqobQs

Have you been (Paying Attention) Anchor...:confused:

Are you sure your not working for the (Other Side)..? :)

Mandala
18th April 2013, 04:31
Ok, those Alex Jones pictures are a bit upsetting with the special ops Navy Seals dressed in their matching fatigues, boots and earpieces carring those big black duffle bags. Why do they have those huge black duffles? Are they involved in this?

Mandala
18th April 2013, 04:42
What's this video about?

zJutN5MUIIw

jackovesk
18th April 2013, 04:48
What's this video about?

zJutN5MUIIw

I think we've seen that type of (Technology) being used before...:yes4:

Remember..?

http://pizzajointpizza.com/wp-content/upgrade/911-ghost-plane-i4.jpg

Referee
18th April 2013, 04:58
Bloomberg is Mayor of New York not Boston ??

selinam
18th April 2013, 05:01
What's this video about?

zJutN5MUIIw

Wow that is weird!

Anchor
18th April 2013, 05:04
Are you sure your not working for the (Other Side)..? :)

Yes I am sure.

My story fits the things I have seen so far.

If there was a credible threat then it makes sense to have all kinds of people there ready to take down any threats that become evident. I didn't know SEALs got used for that, but whatever it takes.

Some of this "evidence" that has been posted has been quickly debunked, like the lady who was supposed to be a Sandy Hook victim being a victim of this bombing too.

The agenda to show this as a false flag seems just as strong as the agenda will be in play regardless of if it was or if it was not.

Referee
18th April 2013, 05:10
Are you sure your not working for the (Other Side)..? :)

Yes I am sure.

My story fits the things I have seen so far.

If there was a credible threat then it makes sense to have all kinds of people there ready to take down any threats that become evident. I didn't know SEALs got used for that, but whatever it takes.

Some of this "evidence" that has been posted has been quickly debunked, like the lady who was supposed to be a Sandy Hook victim being a victim of this bombing too.

The agenda to show this as a false flag seems just as strong as the agenda will be in play regardless of if it was or if it was not.

Anchor this a surprise from you. I respect your opinion.

But may I ask Who Benefits?

Referee
18th April 2013, 05:29
Great Posts Paula and Jacko my hats off to the team at info wars I guess they didn't have a melt down !

Anchor
18th April 2013, 05:55
But may I ask Who Benefits?

Too soon to tell.

I think this is a very relevant question though. Unfortunately my speculation did not incorporate motive.

I don't take sides. This is why I sometimes don't follow the crowd. I mean: for example, I am still one of the few that will contemplate seriously the idea that Obama is a light-worker in a tough situation.

Looking at recent past:

9/11 - inside job the false flag of all false flags to date (war and patriot act agenda)
Aurora shootings - not as it seems, false flag (gun control agenda)
Sandy hook - staged (gun control agenda)
This one? Not sure. (anti-pressure cooker agenda? anti-ball bearing agenda?)

I just think its like the "domestic terrorist" who started posting Anthrax to people a while back in the US. I don't think that was a false flag, just some nutter.

Don't get me wrong, the forces behind the US government are mightily dark and I don't ever want people to think I am suggesting otherwise; all I am saying is sometimes **** happens and it wasn't because the higher-ups were planning it that way. What they will do is us it to full effect however they can.

jackovesk
18th April 2013, 05:59
Your a (BLOODY) (HYPOCRITE & WAR CRIMINAL) Barry...:yes4:

(WARNING) Graphic Content..

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1318155.1366127966!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/obama.jpg


‘Anytime bombs are used to target innocent civilians, it’s an act of terror,’ President Obama said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/obama-labels-boston-bombings-act-terror-article-1.1318156

You & Your (MASTERS & MSM) are more than happy to show America photos like THIS...

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/405839-boston-marathon-explosions.jpg

...but what about (THESE) that never make the papers..???

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--d-I0H220Ig/T-QKyL7jDEI/AAAAAAAAMRk/ZbS05TAzc-M/s640/NATO-Drone-Attack-Pakistan.jpg

OUT of SIGHT - OUT of MIND..!
http://drones.pitchinteractive.com/

http://www.opinion-maker.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Victims-of-drones.jpg

http://www.hangthebankers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Children-of-the-drone-7.jpg


...about half the list of children Obama has killed can be pieced together from news reports:
date: name, age, nationality

2009-01-23: Azaz-ur-Rehman, 14, Pakistani
2009-02-14: Noor Syed, 8, Pakistani
2009-08-11: Ibad Ullah, teenager, Pakistani
2009-08-11: Mohammad Arif, teenager, Pakistani
2009-08-11: Abdul Qadeer, teenager, Pakistani
2009-08-11: Hazrat Ali, teenager, Pakistani
2009-08-21: Syed Wali Shah, 7, Pakistani
2009-08-21: Naeemullah,?, Pakistani
2009-08-21: Faizullah,?, Pakistani
2009-08-21: Rahima,?, Pakistani
2009-08-21: Shaista,?, Pakistani
2009-11-20: Sakeenullah, 15, Pakistani
2009-12-31: Zaenullah Khan, 17, Pakistani
2009-12-17: Nasser Mohammed Nasser, 6, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Arwa Mohammed Nasser, 4, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Fatima Mohammed Nasser, 2, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Afrah Ali Mohammed Nasser, 9, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Zayda Ali Mohammed Nasser, 7, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Hoda Ali Mohammed Nasser, 5, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Sheikha Ali Mohammed Nasser, 4, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Asmaa Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye, 9, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Salma Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye, 4, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Fatima Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye, 3, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Khadije Ali Mokbel Louqye, 1, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Hanaa Ali Mokbel Louqye, 6, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Mohammed Ali Mokbel Salem Louqye, 4, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Jawass Mokbel Salem Louqye, 15, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Sheikha Nasser Mahdi Ahmad Bouh, 3, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Soumaya Mohammed Saleh Mohammed, 9, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Shafika Mohammed Saleh Mohammed, 4, Yemeni
2009-12-17: Shafiq Mohammed Saleh Mohammed, 2, Yemeni
2010-01-03: Wajid Noor, 9, Pakistani
2010-01-08: Ayeesha, 3, Pakistani
2010-02-24: Naila, 10, Pakistani
2010-05-21: Fatima, ?, Pakistani
2010-05-21: Nisar, ?, Pakistani
2010-05-21: Naeem Khan, ?, Pakistani
2010-10-18: Naeem Ullah, 10, Pakistani
2011-06-15: Shahzada, ?, Pakistani
2011-10-14: Abdel-Rahman Anwar al-Awlaki, 16, American
2011-10-14: Ahmed Abdel-Rahman al-Awlaki, 17, Yemeni
2011-10-31: Tariq Aziz, 16, Pakistani
2011-10-31: Waheed, ?, Pakistani
2012-08-21: Osama Haqqani, 13, Pakistani
2012-09-02: Mabrook Mouqbal Al Qadari, 13, Yemeni
2012-09-02: Daolah Nasser, 10, Yemeni
2012-09-02: AbedalGhani Mohammed Mabkhout, 12, Yemeni

http://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/12/17/obama-cries-for-white-children/

http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/obama-nazi-drones.png

PS - The (REAL) Terrorists..!

Apr 17, 2013


Abby Martin Breaks the Set on Corporate Media Disaster Porn & Fights the System with Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-P1La8YU4s

Just (WHO) are you trying to (FOOL) Barry..???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3MuzLezG9s

Anchor
18th April 2013, 06:06
Bloomberg is Mayor of New York not Boston ??

:o Oops. Yes - I meant the Mayor of Boston (Menino)- or someone who has the clout to stop and start a marathon and organize police.

Referee
18th April 2013, 08:00
Could the fertilizer plant explosion be an intentional distraction freeze the video at 11 seconds is that a missile coming in?


ApZhT5Xst7I

jackovesk
18th April 2013, 08:12
Where have you been (HIDING) Condi...:confused:

Well - Well - Well (Surprise - Surprise - Surprise)..!

Conveniently Showing Up - When there's (WORK) to be Done...:yes4:

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2013/04/17/ctm_rice_480x360.jpg


Rice on bombing: Gravest worry is to prevent the next attack

April 17, 2013 4:59 AM

CBS News contributor Condoleezza Rice, former Secretary of State under President George W. Bush, talks to Charlie Rose and Norah O'Donnell about the terror threats in the U.S. and abroad.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50145031n

PS - The thing that really (Impressed) me were the COMMENTS...:thumb:




titansurfer7 says:TSIGLI Bush was reading Little Grey Goat when 3000 plus people died.
Obama was right there as a leader when 3 people died.
Plus GWB had over 4000 US service people killed in Iraq, wrong country wrong war.

mellvis says: I find it insulting to see Condi Rice as a "consultant" to anything. She helped pave the way to an illegal war, which IMO, makes her a war criminal. Shame on CBS for putting her in front of a camera, as if it would make "The News" more credible.

formerlyluvnut says: Yup...gonna hafta show ID soon to mail a letter...yupper! Land of the free! reply linkicon reporticon emailicon andthetruthis says:This is the same woman who wondered,"who would fly planes into buildings"?

The same woman who sat there for week and let Hurricane Katrina,ravage
her home state,and would not go into the Oval Office,and tell the racist
jackass Dubyah,to move.

This person has no credibility.None.

boatdocster says: Condi Rice -
Clueless as Bush 1's Russian Adviser, completely missing the USSR implosion.
Clueless as Bush 2's National Security Adviser, completely missing 9/11.
Completely missed the Iraq Civil War, but still had time to play the piano as Iraq burned...
And we need to worry about the next attack? Really, is that the very best Condi can do? State the OBVIOUS??

Quoting Condi Rice as a security expert is like hunting with Dick Cheney - Very Dangerous..

HuntsTruth says: I take issue with Norah O'Donnell's righteous indignation on what the President of the U.S. should be saying and doing after the bombing, as if she knew all of the answers. She questions former Secretary of State Condolezza Rice as if Condolezza was the expert. O'Donnell asked Rice "why did he say that?" and "what goes behind what the president is saying?" Rice doesn't know what the president is thinking. She have never worked with him. Then Norah says "does he know that the people are listening to every word he says, including those that may be responsible." Really O'Donnell??? The president is a very smart man. He's gathering information and doesn't want whoever did this to know what he is discovering. I like Condolezza, but it was under her watch that we entered into the war with Iraq after the World Trade Tower attack. Have some class, Norah.

netndx says: Where was all this coverage on the Benghazi attack?

doobiedotoo replies: Reported on the news FOR DAYS. (Were were you??)

Indyswim66 says: Another ex-Bushy re-surfaces... attempting to get some press. Ever find those WMD's [you lied to us about...]?

mellvis replies: Typical RW-drone--answer a rhetorical question with unfounded BS about another "attack", instead of acknowledging the original point.

It is a fact that the Bush Administration LIED about Iraq. And Condi Rice played a part. For that reason, CBS has NO BUSINESS putting her on tv. NONE.

mellvis replies: Ever stop shrieking long enough to understand that A) you're answering a rhetorical device which wasn't directed at you and B) you're still hysterically waving around "Benghazi" while the rest of the world keeps on passing you by?

No? Didn't think so...

EarleEDG says: Still cannot believe you let this fraud on as an expert. What did she do to prevent 911 or the FIASCO in Iraq? An utter failure and now she is lecturing us about preventing another attack? And by the way, last time I checked, Obama got Osama. Get some new blood, please. The world has changed and her time is OVER.

tsigili says: Obama is not GWB. There will be more attacks.

Indyswim66 replies: Yeah... He [Obama] can read & write.

doobiedotoo replies: Hey TSIGILI? Who was president when 9/11 happened? Remind me....

http://www.cbsnews.com/8601-500251_162-50145031-0.html?assetTypeId=58&blogId=

PSS - Perhaps (Some) Americans are (Waking-UP) after all this time...:)

PSSS - Condi Quote:


"Gravest worry is to prevent the (Next Attack)"

Forgive Me Condi - But didn't you say that the last (911) time...:confused:

Got a little bit of (inside-info) for us there Condi...:yes4:

Well - Well - Well (Surprise - Surprise - Surprise)..!

dourpil
18th April 2013, 08:26
Just my 2 cents but after a conversation with a friend of mine, here's his point of view:

This thing is huge - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58031-Iranian-Scientist-claims-to-have-invented-Time-Machine-according-to-Telegraph-News-Paper-10-April-2013
So huge it could have been shut down by some engineered earthquakes such as http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58196-M-7.8-Iran-Pakistan-border-region
And to turn the public attention to NOT a future predicting machine, let's put a few nails into a pressure cooker and make it blow.

-
EDIT: I must admit I didn't read the whole thread and quite frankly have personnaly no idea of what happened. Also, although the idea of knowing the "true" story is appealing, there is little interest in it since it seems -that's again from my perspective- the best and only way to change the world is to change yourself. So unless there is a true deep positive meaning to gain from investigating a case like this, let's love and accept whatever event we cocreate and use the negative experiences as an indicator of what's to improve or change in ourselves :)

Much love

jackovesk
18th April 2013, 08:45
Just my 2 cents but after a conversation with a friend of mine, here's his point of view:

This thing is huge - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58031-Iranian-Scientist-claims-to-have-invented-Time-Machine-according-to-Telegraph-News-Paper-10-April-2013
So huge it could have been shut down by some engineered earthquakes such as http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58196-M-7.8-Iran-Pakistan-border-region
And to turn the public attention to NOT a future predicting machine, let's put a few nails into a pressure cooker and make it blow.

The 'Time Machine' may be plausible...:noidea:

But (LUCKILY) the PTW/Govt. running it & the (Keystone Cops) operatives are not...:haha:

Wheeew...:secret:

dourpil
18th April 2013, 10:50
Just my 2 cents but after a conversation with a friend of mine, here's his point of view:

This thing is huge - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58031-Iranian-Scientist-claims-to-have-invented-Time-Machine-according-to-Telegraph-News-Paper-10-April-2013
So huge it could have been shut down by some engineered earthquakes such as http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58196-M-7.8-Iran-Pakistan-border-region
And to turn the public attention to NOT a future predicting machine, let's put a few nails into a pressure cooker and make it blow.

The 'Time Machine' may be plausible...:noidea:

But (LUCKILY) the PTW/Govt. running it & the (Keystone Cops) operatives are not...:haha:

Wheeew...:secret:


I didn't quite get that ^.^

jackovesk
18th April 2013, 11:18
Just my 2 cents but after a conversation with a friend of mine, here's his point of view:

This thing is huge - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58031-Iranian-Scientist-claims-to-have-invented-Time-Machine-according-to-Telegraph-News-Paper-10-April-2013
So huge it could have been shut down by some engineered earthquakes such as http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58196-M-7.8-Iran-Pakistan-border-region
And to turn the public attention to NOT a future predicting machine, let's put a few nails into a pressure cooker and make it blow.

The 'Time Machine' may be plausible...:noidea:

But (LUCKILY) the PTW/Govt. running it & their (Keystone Cops) operatives are not...:haha:

Wheeew...:secret:


I didn't quite get that ^.^

Sorry, I thought that you were talking about this..?


Ali Razeghi, a Tehran scientist has registered "The Aryayek Time Traveling Machine" with the state-run Centre for Strategic Inventions.

The device can predict the future in a print out after taking readings from the touch of a user, he told the Fars state news-agency.

Razaeghi, 27, said the device worked by a set of complex algorithms to "predict five to eight years of the future life of any individual, with 98 percent accuracy".

As the managing director of Iran's (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran) Centre for Strategic Inventions, Razeghi is a serial inventor with 179 other inventions listed under his own name. "I have been working on this project for the last 10 years," he said.

"My invention easily fits into the size of a personal computer case and can predict details of the next 5-8 years of the life of its users. It will not take you into the future, it will bring the future to you."

Razeghi says Iran's government can predict the possibility of a military confrontation with a foreign country, and forecast the fluctuation in the value of foreign currencies and oil prices by using his new invention.

"Naturally a government that can see five years into the future would be able to prepare itself for challenges that might destabilize it," he said. "As such we expect to market this invention among states as well as individuals once we reach a mass production stage."

Razeghi said his latest project has been criticized by friends and relatives for "trying to play God" with ordinary lives and history. "This project is not against our religious values at all. The Americans are trying to make this invention by spending millions of dollars on it where I have already achieved it by a fraction of the cost," he said. "The reason that we are not launching our prototype at this stage is that the Chinese will steal the idea and produce it in millions overnight."

~source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9985757/Iranian-scientist-claims-to-have-invented-time-machine.html

Thread link...
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58031-Iranian-Scientist-claims-to-have-invented-Time-Machine-according-to-Telegraph-News-Paper-10-April-2013


"Naturally a government that can see five years into the future would be able to prepare itself for challenges that might destabilize it

Summary:

A 'Time-Machine' is only useful if those who are in control of it have full use of their faculties...?

Hence, my comment...




The 'Time Machine' may be plausible...:noidea:

But (LUCKILY) the PTW/Govt. running it & their (Keystone Cops) operatives are not...:haha:

Wheeew...:secret:

(Keystone Cops)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZBdxvego1E&feature=player_detailpage

i.e. Don't tell them that...:nono:

witchy1
18th April 2013, 12:58
I am not saying noone got hurt. But there is something very wrong with all this.

CBqhfRY99OE

Watch the cowboy and the guy in the jeans and the hoodie in the different pics among other things. Amazing how the injured move around and change so much isn't it? Why did they have a fence and metal staging set up against the road with signage covering it? Between that and the flags, how could anyone standing in that zone even see anything? Or was it meant for people not to see them?

As for the bloodless double amputee, it is faked and clearly someone faked it for a reason. I have tracked and tracked him...he is not on any video - he just appears in photos.
21183

This is not real.

RMorgan
18th April 2013, 13:35
Very weird indeed, witchy1.

I´m not a physician, but that blood looks too red, almost like paint. Even if it is arterial blood, I believe it would get mixed up with vein blood; Not sure if it would look that red.

Anyway, how about this guy, with his clothes all torn? Who is he, Hulk? I mean, his clothes are all tattered but his skin is completely intact? No blood? It doesn´t seem possible to me.

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/843626-boston.jpg

Raf.

ThePythonicCow
18th April 2013, 13:44
I´m not a physician, but that blood looks too red, almost like paint. Even if it is arterial blood, I believe it would get mixed up with vein blood; Not sure if it would look that red.
Once the blood hits the air, wouldn't it become redder?

(I'm no emergency medical tech ... don't even play one on the Internet.)

donk
18th April 2013, 13:50
Bloomberg is Mayor of New York not Boston ??

whew...thought I was missing something! Wondering what Bloomberg had to do with anything...

RunningDeer
18th April 2013, 13:59
Post update: IGNORE POST - THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN DEBUNKED

Realeyes
18th April 2013, 14:11
Post update: IGNORE BELOW - THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN DEBUNKED - Different person - thank you Vivek!

Could this be the same guy?????????????? It is all getting very confusing...... I personally have no idea what is going on. :der:

Jeffrey
18th April 2013, 14:12
The blood is blood. It is not paint. When blood comes into contact with the oxygen in the air it turns red. People can bleed in slightly different shades of red. This is due to slightly different counts of red blood cells (and therefore hemoglobin) in the blood.

Blood that has been sitting out for a while is darker, or "older" than fresher blood.

The fresher blood is typically lighter -- the longer it sits out, the darker it gets.

Jeffrey
18th April 2013, 14:16
Could this be the same guy?????????????? It is all getting very confusing......

No, it isn't the same guy. This has been covered a few times already in various threads.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58223-Interesting-FB-post-re-Boston.sandy-hook-actors&p=662902&viewfull=1#post662902

jackovesk
18th April 2013, 14:21
I am not saying noone got hurt. But there is something very wrong with all this.

CBqhfRY99OE

Watch the cowboy and the guy in the jeans and the hoodie in the different pics among other things. Amazing how the injured move around and change so much isn't it? Why did they have a fence and metal staging set up against the road with signage covering it? Between that and the flags, how could anyone standing in that zone even see anything? Or was it meant for people not to see them?

As for the bloodless double amputee, it is faked and clearly someone faked it for a reason. I have tracked and tracked him...he is not on any video - he just appears in photos.
21183

This is not real.


Very weird indeed, witchy1.

I´m not a physician, but that blood looks too red, almost like paint. Even if it is arterial blood, I believe it would get mixed up with vein blood; Not sure if it would look that red.

Anyway, how about this guy, with his clothes all torn? Who is he, Hulk? I mean, his clothes are all tattered but his skin is completely intact? No blood? It doesn´t seem possible to me.

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/843626-boston.jpg

Raf.

I have 'Identified' the fella who obviously is an amputee...

21183

Here he is...:yes4:

http://www.itnewsafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/mark-zuckerberg-facebook1-300x225.jpg

The next bloke's 'SHIRT' just cracks me up...:pound:

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/843626-boston.jpg

PS - No disrespect to the people that really got injured...:nono:

ljwheat
18th April 2013, 14:30
Very weird indeed, witchy1.

I´m not a physician, but that blood looks too red, almost like paint. Even if it is arterial blood, I believe it would get mixed up with vein blood; Not sure if it would look that red.

Anyway, how about this guy, with his clothes all torn? Who is he, Hulk? I mean, his clothes are all tattered but his skin is completely intact? No blood? It doesn´t seem possible to me.

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/843626-boston.jpg

Raf.

If you have ever fallen down as a child, you know what happens to your unprotected hands, the same would not happen if you were warring gloves.

Witch proves fabric of any kind is much stronger than skin.

I agree this is a actor posing for the camera, the soft flesh beneath blue jeans should have been ripped away as its not as strong as the tougher fabric and the one button holding the shirt together with that kind of force would have ripped the guy in half. I’ve seen guy’s in Viet Nahm that were near explosions greater than this one blood soaked cloths but under the clothes the flesh was smashed and torn, with out the shredded cloth, depicted here.

Your smoking gun is truly this character, any one in forensics seeing this photo would conclude the same. The flesh should been hanging off his bones like his cloths. What a stupid, stupid mistake on who ever choreographed this play.

All so a bloody nose, and ears -- as membranes in the nose and ears would have ruptured -- not a drop ??????

RMorgan
18th April 2013, 14:41
If you have ever fallen down as a child, you know what happens to your unprotected hands, the same would not happen if you were warring gloves.

Witch proves fabric of any kind is much stronger than skin.

I agree this is a actor posing for the camera, the soft flesh beneath blue jeans should have been ripped away as its not as strong as the tougher fabric and the one button holding the shirt together with that kind of force would have ripped the guy in half. I’ve seen guy’s in Viet Nahm that were near explosions greater than this one blood soaked cloths but under the clothes the flesh was smashed and torn, with out the shredded cloth, depicted here.

Your smoking gun is truly this character, any one in forensics seeing this photo would conclude the same. The flesh should been hanging off his bones like his cloths. What a stupid, stupid mistake on who ever choreographed this play.

I agree mate.

I mean no disrespect for the real victims; I know some real people got really injured, however, I tend to believe that there were also actors involved.

In the case of this guy, his torn clothes look too scenic, like someone cut them with scissors or something like that. Man, it´s just not possible that his clothes are so messed up but he isn´t even bleeding.

I mean, look at his legs. How come his jeans are so messed up but his legs show just some insignificant scratches? How about his shirt? Looks like Wolverine himself attacked him, but there´s no blood at all.

If this man was so close to a frag bomb to the point of getting his cloth blown up, he would be also covered with blood, probably even dead. Things just don´t add up in this case.

Either this guy is beyond probabilities lucky or he is an actor.

Raf.

Jeffrey
18th April 2013, 14:58
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/843626-boston.jpg

Standing right next to a blast will blow off limbs. If a person is just outside that area, the shockwave of air from the blast is enough to blow off clothes.

The shockwaves from blasts have been known is some cases to leave people naked, disoriented, and with their ears ringing. Yet, they come out with only a few scrapes.

The shockwave is a blast of air. It can tear clothes just like in the picture above.

Try tearing a dress shirt like that horizontally. It's much easier for the shirt to rip in vertical lines, just like in the picture.

Don't become desensitized. In a movie set, the crew will cut the shirt and rip the pants to make them look like the clothes in the above photo because they want it to look realistic. I mean, I don't know what else to say.

ljwheat
18th April 2013, 15:10
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/843626-boston.jpg

Standing right next to a blast will blow off limbs. If a person is just outside that area, the shockwave of air from the blast is enough to blow off clothes.

The shockwaves from blasts have been known is some cases to leave people naked, disoriented, and with their ears ringing. Yet, they come out with only a few scrapes.

The shockwave is a blast of air. It can tear clothes just like in the picture above.

Try tearing a dress shirt like that horizontally. It's much easier for the shirt to rip in vertical lines, just like in the picture.

Don't become desensitized.

I am a Veit Nahm war vet, what makes you such a expert on explosions and how cloths are ripped. I am first person seen with my own eye what happens, I was there in the middle of it. First hand. Why are you so bent on convincing people this is not so? You will never erase my memory of actual events that happened to me over 50 years ago, yet you seem to have allot of evidence but no proof of what you say? And why are you so eager to defend this actor.?

RMorgan
18th April 2013, 15:15
Standing right next to a blast will blow off limbs. If a person is just outside that area, the shockwave of air from the blast is enough to blow off clothes.

The shockwaves from blasts have been known is some cases to leave people naked, disoriented, and with their ears ringing. Yet, they come out with only a few scrapes.

The shockwave is a blast of air. It can tear clothes just like in the picture above.

Try tearing a dress shirt like that horizontally. It's much easier for the shirt to rip in vertical lines, just like in the picture.

Don't become desensitized.

This could be the case Vivek, but in my opinion it´s very unlikely.

The bombs themselves were not that strong; What really hurt people was the nails and bearings.

Besides, browsing the other pictures, there aren´t other people with clothes so messed up like him.

As I said before, either he was extremely lucky to be that close to the explosion to the point of getting his clothes torn apart but without getting hurt or something doesn´t add up.

Don´t get me wrong; I know there are really crazy people out there that enjoy killing people, but after Sandy Hook, I also know that the USA has no limits on staging "terrorist" events, including the use of actors.

My heart goes to the real victims, but something doesn´t smells right in my opinion.

Hervé
18th April 2013, 15:36
Another guy running away with pants shredded to bits:


http://i.imgur.com/l5aJzYF.gif

Jeffrey
18th April 2013, 15:51
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/843626-boston.jpg

Standing right next to a blast will blow off limbs. If a person is just outside that area, the shockwave of air from the blast is enough to blow off clothes.

The shockwaves from blasts have been known is some cases to leave people naked, disoriented, and with their ears ringing. Yet, they come out with only a few scrapes.

The shockwave is a blast of air. It can tear clothes just like in the picture above.

Try tearing a dress shirt like that horizontally. It's much easier for the shirt to rip in vertical lines, just like in the picture.

Don't become desensitized.

I am a Veit Nahm war vet, what makes you such a expert on explosions and how cloths are ripped. I am first person seen with my own eye what happens, I was there in the middle of it. First hand. Why are you so bent on convincing people this is not so? You will never erase my memory of actual events that happened to me over 50 years ago, yet you seem to have allot of evidence but no proof of what you say? And why are you so eager to defend this actor.?

No disrespect to you, but just because you are a war vet doesn't give you the credentials to say this is a staged photo. I'm not undermining the validity of your military service, but it doesn't make you an expert on explosions, it gives you experience with them. I may have seen dozens of movies, but that doesn't make me a renown film critic.

I'm not an expert on explosions. I don't have to be an "expert" to collect information and apply critical thought.

http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/blast-resistant-clothing4.gif

It's likely that the shrapnel didn't disperse uniformly. The bomb was made out of a pressure cooker, so the lid was probably the weakest point. It's not outside the realm of logical thought to think that this man's clothes were torn by a proximal pressure wave of air. That's all I'm saying.

There are more important things to focus on instead of going back and forth about this photo. There was a lot of bogus speculation going around on Youtube and Facebook surrounding Sandy Hook. This information spread like wild fire and it seems that it was being supported by popular opinion rather than critical thought. There were viable inconsistencies with Sandy Hook; fair questions that demanded attention, but they became drowned out by the uproar of all the crap being shoveled back and forth.

The same thing is starting to take place here. I'm trying to curb it by pointing out the other side of the facts that people chose to ignore because they'd rather believe something else.

There are more important aspects to this fiasco than trying to debunk this photo. Also, trying to discredit Jeff Bauman is really getting to be sad. The information is out there, the judgement and critical thinking is what's missing. Give it a rest with the actor theory.

It's looking like this could be a false flag, or the authorities had prior knowledge of a bomb threat and they failed to recognize it.

What I'm waiting on is to see how the current administration is going to handle this. How they'll use this crisis.

I mean, what about the Saudi national that got deported? What about some media outlets ever so slightly implying that it was a home grown right winger or that the bomb used gunpowder? Are they going to try and diminish our capacity to produce homemade ammunition? What about all the Craft guys that where there at the marathon? Why was the press conference abruptly cancelled? What about the same day "indictment" of Clinton, Cheney, Bush, and Obama (et al) for war crimes?

These are important questions to me. By all means though, focus on the picture. It's not going to bring down the house. Even if it was faked, which I don't think it is, it's not going to affect anything by trying to prove it's falseness. Namely, because the argument doesn't hold any water -- it's full of holes (if I was on a jury and this photo was presented as a piece of evidence, I wouldn't be convinced).

I think there's more important things to concentrate on.

ljwheat
18th April 2013, 16:09
Another guy running away with pants shredded to bits:


http://i.imgur.com/l5aJzYF.gif

Looking at this shot notice the window its shot threw is bullet proof? And the street lamp next to the blast is not broken and in all the video’s no one has bloody noses or bloody ears first singe of being close to that kind of blast yet window are not shattered across the street. A military simulator artillery round is my first guess. And what was shown on tv pressure cooker? Is a plant. Too.

Eram
18th April 2013, 16:34
If you look at this youtube, it seems clear to me that a real bomb went of.
Look at the fierce shock wave hitting the flags...

-xiXroQp8t4

RMorgan, the picture that you posted of hulk man with shredded clothes... Where did you find it?

Could it be possible that this was an actor in service of the soon to be held bomb drill?

RMorgan
18th April 2013, 16:43
If you look at this youtube, it seems clear to me that a real bomb went of.
Look at the fierce shock wave hitting the flags...

RMorgan, the picture that you posted of hulk man with shredded clothes... Where did you find it?

Could it be possible that this was an actor in service of the soon to be held bomb drill?

Well, this picture was all over the news. It´s everywhere on the web.

Anyway, this video proves that the shock wave was not that significant. Sure, it hits the flags, but it doesn´t rip them apart. It didn´t knock people out except for those really close to it. Even the closest glass windows and plastic posters remained intact.

I still think that, for that man to have his clothes so messed up, he must have been close to the explosion, but in this case, he would have been seriously injured.

Of course, maybe he was just tremendously lucky, but something doesn´t add up to me. Call it intuition, or artist´s trained eye, but I think the way his clothes are torn looks pretty scenographic.

Hervé
18th April 2013, 16:57
[...]

Looking at this shot notice the window its shot threw is bullet proof? And the street lamp next to the blast is not broken and in all the video’s no one has bloody noses or bloody ears first singe of being close to that kind of blast yet window are not shattered across the street. A military simulator artillery round is my first guess. And what was shown on tv pressure cooker? Is a plant. Too.

What you do see on that video is broken glass from the street level front store window from which one can deduce the blast as being mostly horizontally directed.

Since the broken glass is on the ground in front of the store, one can also infer that the window didn't break from the first pressure wave but from the vacuum generated back-flow.

Accordingly, it could also be inferred that the pressure-backflow waves didn't reach people's head's height and were restricted close to ground which is corroborated by people being mostly injured in their legs.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/16/article-2309545-1950CDAB000005DC-672_964x494.jpg

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/876302-boston-explosion-483-x-272.jpg
The front window of the "All in for Boston" isn't broken most probably because the door was open* nor are any windows above street level broken.

The only evidence for a vertical component to the blast was the pressure-cooker lid found on a nearby hotel rooftop.

I am not trying to prove or disprove anything and so am -- maybe -- more able to analyze the data at their face value.

* From my underground mining experience, all one needs to do to avoid one's eardrum from being shot by a mining blast (that's in a very confined environment) is to keep one's mouth open.

Eram
18th April 2013, 17:35
If you look at this youtube, it seems clear to me that a real bomb went of.
Look at the fierce shock wave hitting the flags...

RMorgan, the picture that you posted of hulk man with shredded clothes... Where did you find it?

Could it be possible that this was an actor in service of the soon to be held bomb drill?

Well, this picture was all over the news. It´s everywhere on the web.

Anyway, this video proves that the shock wave was not that significant. Sure, it hits the flags, but it doesn´t rip them apart. It didn´t knock people out except for those really close to it. Even the closest glass windows and plastic posters remained intact.

I still think that, for that man to have his clothes so messed up, he must have been close to the explosion, but in this case, he would have been seriously injured.

Of course, maybe he was just tremendously lucky, but something doesn´t add up to me. Call it intuition, or artist´s trained eye, but I think the way his clothes are torn looks pretty scenographic.

Apparently, I don't understand exactly what the discussion is about then.
I thought it was about the possibilities of it being fake (the bombing that is)....

That's what you get when trying to mingle in a discussion that you haven't read thoroughly :whistle: apologies.


About the shredded clothes of that man... Clearly he wasn't anywhere near the blast.
I just wonder if it is established whether or not it is an actor for the bomb drill that was planned.

humanalien
18th April 2013, 18:34
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/843626-boston.jpg

Standing right next to a blast will blow off limbs. If a person is just outside that area, the shockwave of air from the blast is enough to blow off clothes.

The shockwaves from blasts have been known is some cases to leave people naked, disoriented, and with their ears ringing. Yet, they come out with only a few scrapes.

The shockwave is a blast of air. It can tear clothes just like in the picture above.

Try tearing a dress shirt like that horizontally. It's much easier for the shirt to rip in vertical lines, just like in the picture.

Don't become desensitized.

I am a Veit Nahm war vet, what makes you such a expert on explosions and how cloths are ripped. I am first person seen with my own eye what happens, I was there in the middle of it. First hand. Why are you so bent on convincing people this is not so? You will never erase my memory of actual events that happened to me over 50 years ago, yet you seem to have allot of evidence but no proof of what you say? And why are you so eager to defend this actor.?

No disrespect to you, but just because you are a war vet doesn't give you the credentials to say this is a staged photo. It doesn't make you an expert on explosions, it gives you experience with them. I may have seen dozens of movies, but that doesn't make me a renown film critic.

I'm not an expert on explosions. I don't have to be an "expert" to collect information and apply critical thought.

http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/blast-resistant-clothing4.gif

It's likely that the shrapnel didn't disperse uniformly. The bomb was made out of a pressure cooker, so the lid was probably the weakest point. It's not outside the realm of logical thought to think that this man's clothes were torn by a pressure wave of air. That's all I'm saying.

There are more important things to focus on instead of going back and forth about this photo. There was a lot of bogus speculation going around on Youtube and Facebook surrounding Sandy Hook. This information spread like wild fire and it seems that it was being supported by popular opinion rather than critical thought. There were viable inconsistencies with Sandy Hook; fair questions that demanded attention, but they became drowned out by the uproar of all the crap being shoveled back and forth.

The same thing is starting to take place here. I'm trying to curb it by pointing out the other side of the facts that people chose to ignore because they'd rather believe something else.

There are more important aspects to this fiasco than trying to debunk this photo. Also, trying to discredit Jeff Bauman is really getting to be sad. The information is out there, the judgement and critical thinking is what's missing. Give it a rest with the actor theory.

It's looking like this could be a false flag, or the authorities had prior knowledge of a bomb threat and they failed to recognize it.

What I'm waiting on is to see how the current administration is going to handle this. How they'll use this crisis.

I mean what about the Saudi national that got deported? What about some media outlets ever so slightly implying that it was a home grown right winger or that the bomb used gunpowder? Are they going to try and diminish our capacity to produce homemade ammunition? What about all the Seals that where there at the marathon? Why was the press conference abruptly cancelled? What about the same day indictment of Clinton, Cheney, Bush, and Obama for war crimes?

These are important questions to me. By all means though, focus on the picture. It's not going to bring down the house. Even if it was faked, which I don't think it is, it's not going to affect anything by trying to prove it's falseness. Namely, because the argument doesn't hold any water ... it's full of holes. There's more important things to concentrate on.

Not to change the subject but could you point me to a link about this?

xxxcjbcxxx
18th April 2013, 19:34
Hey guys, I found a really good video on what may be going on with the whole Boston incident.

This man has a very interesting perspective on the matter.

yWUB4MCLsHg

jagman
18th April 2013, 19:53
Saudi National at the scene of the bombing is being deported. Isn't that convenient. Big Sis Janet say's I will tell you what truth to believe.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3l8xOAlcFA

Jeffrey
18th April 2013, 19:54
What about the same day indictment of Clinton, Cheney, Bush, and Obama for war crimes?

Not to change the subject but could you point me to a link about this?

Sure thing.

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U.S. Engaged in Torture After 9/11, Review Concludes

[...]

The use of torture, the report concludes, has “no justification” and “damaged the standing of our nation, reduced our capacity to convey moral censure when necessary and potentially increased the danger to U.S. military personnel taken captive.” The task force found “no firm or persuasive evidence” that these interrogation methods produced valuable information that could not have been obtained by other means. While “a person subjected to torture might well divulge useful information,” much of the information obtained by force was not reliable, the report says.

Interrogation and abuse at the C.I.A.’s so-called black sites, the Guantánamo Bay prison in Cuba and war-zone detention centers, have been described in considerable detail by the news media and in declassified documents, though the Constitution Project report adds many new details.

It confirms a report by Human Rights Watch that one or more Libyan militants were waterboarded by the C.I.A., challenging the agency’s longtime assertion that only three Al Qaeda prisoners were subjected to the near-drowning technique. It includes a detailed account by Albert J. Shimkus Jr., then a Navy captain who ran a hospital for detainees at the Guantánamo Bay prison, of his own disillusionment when he discovered what he considered to be the unethical mistreatment of prisoners.

But the report’s main significance may be its attempt to assess what the United States government did in the years after 2001 and how it should be judged. The C.I.A. not only waterboarded prisoners, but slammed them into walls, chained them in uncomfortable positions for hours, stripped them of clothing and kept them awake for days on end.

[...]

While the Constitution Project report covers mainly the Bush years, it is critical of some Obama administration policies, especially what it calls excessive secrecy. It says that keeping the details of rendition and torture from the public “cannot continue to be justified on the basis of national security” and urges the administration to stop citing state secrets to block lawsuits by former detainees.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/16/world/us-practiced-torture-after-9-11-nonpartisan-review-concludes.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

---------------

Bush-era torture use 'indisputable,' Guantanamo must close, task force finds

An independent task force issued a damning review of Bush-era interrogation practices on Tuesday, saying the highest U.S. officials bore ultimate responsibility for the "indisputable" use of torture, and it urged President Barack Obama to close the Guantanamo detention camp by the end of 2014.

[...]

"It is indisputable that the United States engaged in the practice of torture," the 11-member task force, assembled by the nonpartisan Constitution Project think tank, said in their 577-page report.

[...]

The panel, which included leading politicians from both parties, two U.S. retired generals and legal and ethics scholars, spent two years examining the U.S. treatment of suspected militants detained after the September 11, 2001, attacks.

Panel members interviewed former Clinton, Bush and Obama administration officials, military officers and former prisoners, and the investigation looked at U.S. practices at Guantanamo, in Afghanistan and Iraq and at the CIA's former secret prisons overseas.

The task force was chaired by Asa Hutchinson, a Republican former congressman and undersecretary of the Department of Homeland Security during the George W. Bush administration, and James Jones, a Democratic former congressman who served as U.S. ambassador to Mexico.

In a finding the panel said was its most notable and was reached "without reservation," the report said, "Torture occurred in many instances and across a wide range of theaters."

[...]

"The nation's highest officials bear some responsibility for allowing and contributing to the spread of torture," the report said, though it did not name names.

The task force, while concluding that U.S. and international laws were violated, did not recommend legal action against any of those involved but it did press for tighter rules to prevent a recurrence of torture.

Source: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/16/17781845-bush-era-torture-use-indisputable-guantanamo-must-close-task-force-finds?lite

See also: http://www.policymic.com/articles/36053/u-s-torture-was-a-war-crime-why-hasn-t-anyone-been-held-accountable

---------------

So, it appears they (the nation's highest officials) have been "formally accused" by a congressional committee of bearing some responsibility for carrying out war crimes. Yet, they didn't recommend legal action. Nonetheless, this appears to be an inch closer to a real indictment. Anyways, this story didn't make major headlines. I think it broke on the same day as the bombings. Sort of like 9/11 happened right after the Pentagon misplaced a zillion dollars.

This was brought to my attention by the interview Alex Jones recently did with Dr. Steve Pieczenik (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUT4PU5tzmI).

TargeT
18th April 2013, 20:28
Hey guys, I found a really good video on what may be going on with the whole Boston incident.

This man has a very interesting perspective on the matter.

yWUB4MCLsHg

Interesting video... especially comming from a LTC.

Abhaya
18th April 2013, 20:42
Well we all need to watch this 5 o'clock, long delayed, press conference closely. God knows they have been going out of their minds trying to come up with a believable excuse for all this suspect back tracking and delaying.

Someone will be going for an Oscar tonight I'm sure.

Kimberley
18th April 2013, 20:52
I do not know if this was posted yet or not have not read all posts in this thread... 19 minutes...

I am agreeing with this man...this is not the original poster and I tried to find the original however have not...If someone else can find it I for one would be grateful... thanks.

Much love

yWUB4MCLsHg


UPDATED

Ok I found it here is Potters youtube upload page with additional videos posted after the above video...

http://www.youtube.com/user/roypotterqa/videos?view=0


About roypotterqa

I am a former US Army LTC of 28 years. I served in various Military Police and Military Intelligence positions around the globe. I was also a municipal police officer for about 3 years. I bring my unique experience, training, education, and spiritual insights to bear in analyzing important issues and trends in the U.S. and the world.

Jeffrey
18th April 2013, 21:27
I've been on high alert since the last week of March. Like a dog with his ears pointed up, focused and attentive. Things have been happening in rapid succession lately. A lot of stuff is going on right now. You know how long it takes for water to boil? You fill the pot up with water and heat it up. It takes a while for it to get hot enough to start showing little bubbles around the edge and on the bottom of the pot. Then after a certain threshold of temperature is reached, it begins to boil. It seems sudden, proportional to the time it took to heat up.

I see the situations that have taken place within the last 12 months as that period of getting hotter, approaching the threshold. It's heating up -- seriously. The pot was filled up in 2001. This year we may reach that threshold of temperature.

The Economy



1. Cyprus. Similar bail-in mechanisms have been found in FDIC/Bank of England resolutions (and in other big countries).

2. Japan enacted massive QE measures. The proportions of which make Ben Bernanke look like a school girl. Overt currency wars are a likely outcome if they continue devaluing the yen.

3. The recent big dip in the metals market. Actually, it was the biggest percentage dip in 33 years. There is all kinds of buzz going around in the blogosphere surrounding this. Many see it as an omen -- precursory to a big default somewhere.




LBMA Default Triggered Gold & Silver Takedown (http://rustysmetals.com/maguire-lbma-default-triggered-gold-silver-takedown-jim-willie-real-physical-price-of-gold-soars-to-2000oz-as-comex-burns-the-end-game-a%C2%80%C2%93-andy-hoffman-us-wholesale-suppliers-are/.html)

COMEX default (http://maxkeiser.com/tag/comex-default/)

Gold's VIX Term Structure 'Most Inverted' Since Lehman (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-15/golds-vix-term-structure-most-inverted-lehman)

JPM silver and gold manipulation (Fed "funded" naked shorts using JPM as a proxy) (http://silverdoctors.com/the-secret-world-of-gold-cbc-documentary-to-take-metals-manipulation-mainstream/)

4. The illusion of economic recovery may fall apart very soon.




More Evidence That The Economic Peak Is In (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-17/guest-post-more-evidence-economic-peak)




A Scary 'Head-And-Shoulders' Pattern Is Quickly Developing In The Stock Market (http://www.onenewspage.com/n/Business/74vspx3b5/Scary-Head-And-Shoulders-Pattern-Is-Quickly.htm)

5. The BRICS nations have been preparing for an global economic shift.


The Warfronts



1. The tensions surrounding North Korea are still very high. The US has offered diplomatic talks only if the DPRK agrees to denuclearize before hand -- they have refuted the offer and demanded that they will only negotiate if the UN sanctions are taken away. Japan has recently proposed military agreements with South Korea.

2. It is increasingly likely that Israel will strike Iran's nuclear facilities. There were rumors that Obama gave Israel the "green light" to act. Just recently, this rumored agreement has effectively been put on paper.




U.S. Will Go to War With Iran if Israel Does (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/senate-resolution-us-will_b_3099788.html)

Israeli Officials Stress Readiness for Lone Strike on Iran (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/19/world/middleeast/israeli-officials-stress-readiness-for-lone-strike-on-iran.html)

3. Syria.




Step toward possible military intervention in Syria (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/middleeast/la-fg-us-jordan-troops-20130418,0,7018059.story)

The Recent Attacks



1. The Boston Marathon bombings.

2. The ricin letters. This one may have just begun according to John McAfee.




John McAfee Predicts Ricin Attacks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9L8hw-tHa8&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&index=3)

Gun Legislation



1. The new gun control amendments failed to pass through the Senate.




Senate rejects expanded gun background checks (http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/17/politics/senate-guns-vote/index.html)

2. Obama isn't finished with it. Biden has stated that the president will take executive measures.




Obama lashes out at gun rights supporters after gun control bills fail in Senate (http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-lashes-out-at-gun-rights-supporters-after-gun-control-bills-fail-senate)

Obama's United Nations Backdoor to Gun Control (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324504704578413110123095782.html)

Biden: 'The President Is Already Lining Up Some Additional Executive Actions' for Guns (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-president-already-lining-some-additional-executive-actions-guns_718027.html)

World events, especially in America, are heating up. It looks as if we are approaching a boiling point. It may be next week or next year, but things can't get much hotter before they start to boil. April was predicted to be a bumpy month, and so far it has been very bumpy on all fronts.

I haven't even linked to the various accounts of the what the DHS has been up to lately. They are definitely preparing for something.

It feels like we are in the midst of a quickening here.

Hervé
18th April 2013, 21:49
Another piece of analysis that goes along with this post:


[...]

Accordingly, it could also be inferred that the pressure-backflow waves didn't reach people's head's height and were restricted close to ground which is corroborated by people being mostly injured in their legs.

[...]

... and this one:


Hey guys, I found a really good video on what may be going on with the whole Boston incident.

This man has a very interesting perspective on the matter.

yWUB4MCLsHg


Is the Boston pressure-cooker bomb a lie and a hoax? (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/04/18/is-the-boston-pressure-cooker-bomb-a-lie-and-a-hoax/)
By Jon Rappoport April 17, 2013
www.nomorefakenews.com (http://www.nomorefakenews.com/)

When the Trade Center was destroyed on September 11, 2001, I urged readers and researchers to focus on the explosions as the first order of business.

That was because I had researched and written about the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. I and others discovered that the official scenario about the bomb in the Ryder truck, parked at the curb outside the Murrah Federal Building, was grossly incomplete.

Such a device could not have produced the profile of damage sustained by the building. General Ben Partin and other bomb experts had seen that fact. They’d diagrammed it and explained it.

The obvious conclusion was: bombs wired into columns of the Murrah Building had done the significant damage.

So again, in the case of the Boston Marathon bombing, I urge people to examine the explosions closely.

I have questions. For example, as described in the YouTube video. “Boston Massacre False Flag Terrorism—Pressure Cooker,” Daniel Vincent Kelley points to a few simple facts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE480YxCtbo

A photo of a mangled pressure cooker, posted by press outlets all over the world, shows the pressure-cooker plug and, near it, one small round hole, machined apparently by the manufacturer. But…no other small holes. I see discolorations but not dozens or hundreds of holes.

Yet we are told that the Marathon bombs were placed inside pressure cookers and packed with nails and ball bearings. If that were true, the explosions would have created many, many small holes as the inserted shrapnel flew through the cooker and out in every direction.

In the official press photo, there are no such holes.

How is that possible?

In fact, since a large piece of the pressure cooker is missing, it appears that the explosive was a shaped charge of some kind. Part of the cooker is mangled but intact; another part is missing, presumably revealing in which direction the shock wave traveled.

Charges are shaped when they are put in place, because the maker wants the explosion to be vectored; otherwise, the explosion will exit its confined space spherically, equally, in all directions.

A shaped charge would strongly suggest a pro at work, not an amateur who built the device in his kitchen. In which case, we would be looking at a whole different scenario.

This is significant because, for example, media outlets are busy trying to make connections between home-made pressure-cooker bombs and “right-wing extremists.”

People might reply, “Well, if the pressure cookers show such gaping flaws in the official story, why would the real killers have done such a bad job of covering their tracks? They would be smarter than that.”

They weren’t smarter in 1995 in Oklahoma City, and they weren’t smarter in New York, in 2001, where it was claimed that both Towers fell because of plane collisions.
They weren’t smarter in Aurora, either, where two witnesses claimed there were at least two killers inside the theater. Nor were they smarter in Newtown, where so many questions and contradictions remained unanswered.

If we infer that the Boston pressure-cooker scenario is wrong, it is a very short step to conclude the scenario is a cover story, designed to obscure the truth. In that case, what is the truth? Who was really responsible for the death and destruction on April 15?

Pros pretending to be amateurs? Pros whose death-dealing work is being concealed by law-enforcement officials, with a concocted version of what happened?

At this stage of the investigation, and from now on, these questions must be asked seriously and probed seriously, regardless of the official line.

That’s what I’m doing here. Asking questions. If there is a reasonable explanation for the pressure-cooker contradictions, I want to hear them.

I’m going to try to get even more specific, to stimulate research. Examine the press photo of the pressure cooker yourself. Does it show a whole cooker, with all parts intact, but bent and distorted, or does it show only part of a cooker, with a major section missing?

And second, if the bomber packed only one side of the bomb with nails and ball bearings and BBs, could the piece that is missing in the photo have contained all the holes caused by the shrapnel exiting the pressure cooker?

If we are really looking at the whole cooker, then we should also see many holes. We don’t.

If we are looking at only part of the cooker, then regardless of whether the bomber packed all the shrapnel to exit through the missing piece, the fact that it’s missing suggests a shaped charge, the work of a pro.

Either way, somebody is deceiving us.

Jon Rappoport

Hervé
18th April 2013, 22:20
The "innocent" bystanders:


Media refuses to acknowledge existence of private military contractors on the scene

But the real story -- and perhaps the biggest story of all -- has been blown wide open, first by researchers at 4chan.org (http://www.4chan.org), and then covered by Anthony Gucciardi (http://www.storyleak.com), Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones (http://www.infowars.com). It reveals that there were private military contractors with backpacks operating at the scene.

Here's an image of the private military operatives, snapped on the day of the marathon:

http://www.naturalnews.com/images/Boston-Marathon-1.jpg


As you can see from the above image, these private military operatives are both wearing the exact same uniforms: tan BDUs, tan military boots, dark jackets, communications gear and black backpacks.

But what gets really interesting is when you look at the symbols on the hat one of them is wearing:


http://www.naturalnews.com/images/Boston-Marathon-5.jpg


This "skull" symbol just happens to be the symbol of a group of military contractors called "The Craft."

The following picture shows former group member Chris Kyle (who was recently murdered, by the way), sitting with his sniper rifle and wearing the "Craft" hat with the skull symbol:


http://www.naturalnews.com/images/Chief-Chris-Kyle.jpg


But an even better look at the symbol comes from the Craft's own website (http://www.thecraft.com/AboutUs.html), where training photos show the symbol with great clarity:


http://www.naturalnews.com/images/Gun-Training-Craft-Skull-Shirt.jpg


"The Craft" has a reputation of being something like an "elite Blackwater," and the presence of "Craft" operatives on scene at the Boston marathon bombing is an absolute bombshell of a news story.

Yet the mainstream media absolutely refuses to mention it at all. Ever wonder why?

Full article: http://www.naturalnews.com/039961_Boston_mainstream_media_cover_story.html

Conchis
18th April 2013, 22:24
And the Red Cross is stated to be a deliberate reference to the Knights Templar.

Earth Angel
18th April 2013, 22:29
I dont have cable so can't watch the news conference that took place about an hour or so ago......but when I looked on Yahoo.com I saw a bright yellow "breaking news" banner that said FBI Releases Photos of Boston Bomber suspects......which takes me to this link http://news.yahoo.com/photos/suspects-identified-in-boston-bombing-slideshow/ and shows a picture of these two men

Then as I scroll down the page on Yahoo.com main page I see the following headline

Teen: I Am Not the Boston Marathon Bomber

http://gma.yahoo.com/teen-am-not-boston-marathon-bomber-175755674--abc-news-topstories.html

The teenage boy authorities once investigated as possibly being connected to the Boston Marathon bombing told ABC News today he was shocked to see his face pop up on television and all over social media.

Salah Barhoun, 17, said he went to the police yesterday to clear his name after he found himself tagged in pictures online. He had just gone to watch the race, he said, but soon after the explosions, he was singled out by internet sleuths as looking suspicious. Federal authorities passed around images of Barhoun, attempting to learn more information about him, sources told ABC News.

Today The New York Post ran a story featuring a picture of Barhoun and another man circled in red, but said it was unclear if they were the same as two potential suspects spotted by law enforcement Wednesday.

PHOTOS: Terror at the Boston Marathon

When he saw the front page story, with the headline "Bag Men," Barhoun said, "It's the worst feeling that I can possibly feel… I'm only 17."

ABC News producers found Barhoun through social media and spoke to him today at his home. He said he had actually wanted to run the race and when he couldn't, decided to watch.

COMPLETE COVERAGE: Terror at the Boston Marathon

Barhoun's younger brother, who declined to be identified, said that it made his mother "sick and upset" that her son had been connected to the tragedy.

"It made her think he had done something wrong," the younger brother said. "My brother is not the bomber."

Federal law enforcement sources told ABC News they are no longer seeking information about Barhoun or the other man in the photo published in the Post.



How can he have turned himself in yesterday to clear his name and yet they released his picture at the news conference at 5 today?? the same conference where the actually tell people NOT to go to Infowars.com to see the photos they have !!!

Cidersomerset
18th April 2013, 22:35
This is an interesting news report in the light of the possible
'false flag' being rumbled .......


Default Re: Boston Bombing Culprits Identified On Film?

Thanks Kimberly & 161803398 two good vids.....Steve..

I wonder if they were a mossad team working for TPTB
and is why the Israeli security chief is coming over to
'help with the cover up' !!


They are certainly reaccessing their media strategy !
CNN & Fox both announced that an arrest had been
made. Until told to backtrack by their security bosses !



FBI struggles to identify Boston Marathon bomber



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Published on 18 Apr 2013


After the Boston Marathon attacks on Monday, the FBI is still on the hunt for the
suspect or suspects responsible for the gruesome occurrence. Surveillance footage
has surfaced showing two individuals that may have had something to do with the
act of terror, but the DHS has shied away from calling the two people wanted for
questioning "suspects." For the latest on the marathon bombings Anastasia
Churkina brings us more from Boston.

Cidersomerset
18th April 2013, 22:47
This may have already been posted, but worth another look...

Proof Boston Marathon Bombing is False Flag Cover-Up
Prison Planet.com
April 18, 2013

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Unlike Oklahoma City, the FBI cannot confiscate all of the surveillance, cell phone,
and thousands of cameras that were at the finish line of Boston Marathon. 4Chan
posted dozens of photos showing Navy Seal or Private Security personnel carrying
the same black back packs which are the same style backpacks showed in FBI
photos. It’s becoming crystal clear. Get these articles and this video out to
everyone you know.

Breaking: Police Confirm Infowars Photos of Boston Suspects – http://www.infowars.com/breaking-police-confirm…

Obama Covering Up Saudi Link to Boston Bombing? – http://www.infowars.com/obama-covering-up…

Navy SEALs Spotted at Boston Marathon Wearing Suspicious Backpacks? http://www.infowars.com/navy-seals-sp…

Boston Bombing Culprits Identified? http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombin…

jagman
18th April 2013, 23:00
I was watching the Factor last night and Bill O and Juliet Huddy were trying to disparage Alex Jones & crew. What caught my attention about this was?
Bill usually wont discuss Alex! He just has his minions trash Alex. Bill was really trying hard to push he FBI narrative. I think the system starting to crack.

Cidersomerset
18th April 2013, 23:33
American Terror: Manufactured by the FBI

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Published on 17 Apr 2013


TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=7276

The Boston Marathon bombing has provoked shock, grief and outrage from around
the world. After decades of conditioning, the public automatically equates such
terrorism with Muslim radicals. But the evidence shows that every major terror plot
on American soil in the past 10 years has been fostered, funded and equipped by
one organization: the FBI.