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Cidersomerset
22nd April 2013, 15:21
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.Applicants wanted for a one-way ticket to MarsBy Melissa Hogenboom

BBC News



Want to go to Mars? Dutch organisation Mars One says it will open applications
imminently. It would be a one-way trip, and the company hopes to build a
community of settlers on the planet. Uncharted waters, mountains or far away
lands have always drawn explorers. History books show that desire for adventure,
even in the face of extreme danger, did not deter the likes of Columbus or
Magellan. So it is perhaps not surprising that Mars One has already received
thousands of prospective applicants. But there is no return - unlike the mission
which hopes to fly to Mars and back in 2018.


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Solar wind

But is it realistic to believe that individuals could live and prosper on the Red
Planet? Mars is in the firing line of the Sun's high energy particles, called solar
wind. The atmosphere of Mars is very thin as the solar wind is thought to have
stripped much of it away. On Earth, we are protected from the solar wind by a
strong magnetic field. Without this, it would be much more difficult to survive.
Although Mars once had similar protection about four billion years ago, today there
is no such shield protecting it. The Martian surface is therefore extremely hostile to
life, says Dr Veronica Bray, from the University of Arizona's Lunar and Planetary
Laboratory, who is sceptical about the project. There's no liquid water, the
atmospheric pressure is "practically a vacuum", radiation levels are higher and
temperatures vary wildly, she says.

"Radiation exposure is a concern, especially during the trip. This can lead to
increased cancer risk, a lowered immune system and possibly infertility."
To minimise radiation, the project team will cover the domes with several metres of
soil, which the colonists will have to dig up.


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The settlement will grow. The project aims to send another four people into this new space community every two years



"I have no doubt that we could physically place a human being on Mars. Whether
they'd be able to survive for an extended period of time is much more doubtful,"
adds Dr Bray.

Ambassador for the project, Professor Gerard 't Hooft, a recipient of the Nobel Prize
for theoretical physics in 1999, admits there are unknown health risks. He says the
radiation is "of quite a different nature" than anything which has been tested on Earth.

Technical challenge

'The single greatest achievement'
Alison Rigby, 32, Science lab technician

I'll try to be in the first few to take the plunge.

My natural curiosity is what drives me. I am a scientist because I like to discover
and know things. I am continually fascinated by the world around me. Travelling to
Mars to continue that exploration seems like the next step.I am motivated to apply
because Mars One is asking for people who will not only be able to face the rigours
of space but also the daily struggles of communal living. I believe I can face and
conquer these challenges.A one-way ticket does scare me but not enough to
dissuade me. Successfully living on Mars will be the single greatest achievement of
my life and so I am glad to put aside my concerns in the hope of something better.

"They [the applicants] will be told that there are risks, but it will be our
responsibility to keep the risks within acceptable odds."

Nasa astronaut Stan Love knows first-hand the difficulties with technology that his
colleagues have experienced on the International Space Station in low-Earth orbit.
The apparatus which recycles human waste and turns "yesterday's coffee into into
tomorrow's coffee needs frequent maintenance and would likely not survive years
of continuous duty on Mars", he says.Love has recently returned from Antarctica
which he says is a "picnic compared to Mars".

"It's full of water, you can go outside and breathe the air. It's paradise compared to
Mars and yet nobody has moved there permanently."

Although dubious about the funding, the technology and the impact of radiation,
Love applauds small enterprises like Mars One. He strongly believes private
organisations will help raise awareness and hopefully discover or design some
technology which will help future teams reach their goal of landing on Mars.

"We've been dreaming about this for 50 years. The Moon was just supposed to be a
stepping stone to Mars. But when you study the problem, you realise it's immensely
hard to do this."

Many critics have focused on funding, and whether the project would hold the
public's attention for many years. It will cost an estimated £3.8bn ($6bn) to send
the first group.Dr Chris Lintott from Oxford University says that while the project is
technologically plausible, he does not think they will find the funding. "It's about
having the political will and the financial muscle to make this happen. That's what
nobody has been able to solve so far," he explains.

Mars One Rover A rover will land first to scout the best area
But Lansdorp sees no issue with funding. He uses the revenue from the worldwide
broadcasting rights of the Olympics as a comparison."This will be the biggest thing
that humanity has ever done. In 15 years people will still be watching."Exploring
our world, and now beyond is what humans do, it's in our genome. The settlers'
dream of going to Mars will come true." Whether or not the mission will achieve its
goal, the publicity generated from the "big-brother" style televised application
process means the world will surely be watching.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22146456

blufire
22nd April 2013, 17:00
I in no way would hesitate to be on the first colony ship to Mars. But I'm sure no one my age would be even considered. . . Nor should I. I so envy the younger and future generations in what adventures our near future holds.

Seize every oppurtinity! !

Vitalux
22nd April 2013, 17:14
:rolleyes:

I wonder if the applicant has to send with his application a non-returnable deposit of a substantial amount of money?

Would make a for a wonderful scam.

If anyone would like to purchase of excellent desert front land on Mar's let message me. I can sell you a home lot for only $100. ;)

Ba-ba-Ra
22nd April 2013, 17:19
I have an ex-husband I'll volunteer! ;)

Cidersomerset
22nd April 2013, 17:31
I in no way would hesitate to be on the first colony ship to Mars. But I'm sure no one my age would be even considered. . . Nor should I. I so envy the younger and future generations in what adventures our near future holds.

Seize every oppurtinity! !




You never Know blufire.........


27 February 2013 Last updated at 18:01

US private sector hopes to send older couple to Mars
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Science correspondent, BBC News The mission would loop around Mars, but would not land




A team led by millionaire and former space tourist Dennis Tito plans to send a "tested
couple" to Mars and back in a privately funded mission.The Inspiration Mars Foundation
plans to start its one-and-a-half-year mission in January 2018.The foundation has
carried out a study which it says shows that it is feasible to achieve such a mission
using existing technology.The group still has to raise funding for their mission.

Among those involved in the project is Jane Poynter, who spent two years locked away
in a sealed ecosystem with seven other people in 1991 which she described as a "New
Age Garden of Eden".

She told BBC News that the mission planners wanted the crew to consist of an older
couple whose relationship would be able to withstand the stress of living in a confined
environment for two years.

"I can attest from personal experience from living in Biosphere 2 that having somebody
that you really deeply trusted and cared for was an extraordinary thing to have," Ms
Poynter explained.Ms Poynter, who ended up marrying one of those involved in the
Biosphere 2 project, Taber Macallum, admitted that it could be "challenging" for the
couple. But said that the selection process would attempt to find "resilient people that
would be able to maintain a happy upbeat attitude in the face of adversity".

The plan was to choose a middle-aged couple because their health and fertility would be
less affected by the radiation they would be exposed to during such a long space
mission.The couple would receive extensive training and would be able to draw on
psychological support from mission control throughout the mission.Ms Poynter's
expectation is that a couple journeying to Mars would be "inspirational".
"We want the crew of vehicle to represent humanity," she said. "We want the youth of
the world to be reflected in this crew and for girls as well as boys to have role models".

Space historian, Prof Christopher Riley of Lincoln University, believes that sending a
couple to Mars might be a good idea."The idea of sending older astronauts on longer
duration missions, after they have had children, has been around for a while. The
reasoning is that such a long duration mission, outside of the protective magnetosphere
of the Earth, could leave them infertile," he said.

"Married couples have occasionally flown in space before, on short flights, and it seemed
to work well, so why not."However results emerging from the so-called Mars500 project
suggests that even carefully screened individuals are likely to suffer from psychological
problems from a prolonged space mission.The mission will be a straightforward flight to
the Red Planet and return without landing. This greatly reduces the cost of the mission.
The Mars Inspiration team believe that it is technically possible to launch such a mission
in five years' time.

The Mars Inspiration team is aiming for a January 2018 launch because it coincides with
a close alignment of Mars and Earth, such that a round trip would take about a year-
and-a half, or 501 days - whereas outside of this window such a trip might take two or
three years .Many believe that new technologies will need to be developed to deal with
the extended periods of radiation such a trip would involve and to cope with supplying
food and water for the crew.The Mars Inspiration team says that it has carried out a
feasibility study for the mission which it plans to release on Sunday. Anu Ojha, from the
British National Space Centre in Leicester has seen the study. He says that it is
theoretically possible to go to Mars and back using the Dragon and Falcon Heavy
systems manufactured by California-based firm SpaceX.

Loo roll crunch

But conditions would be squeezed and spartan, with no room for pressurised space
suits. The report suggests that 1,360kg of dehydrated food will be enough to last the
journey and the manifest includes 28kg of toilet paper for a crew of 2 for 500 days.
But the issue of radiation protection according to Mr Ojha is "glossed over" with the
recognition that more work and "creative solutions" need to be explored. More work will
also need to done to improve recycling technologies to convert urine into water.

The man leading the venture is Denis Tito, who paid 20 million dollars to become the
first "tourist" in space. He spent six days on the International Space Station (ISS) in
2001.The millionaire is financing part of the project but much more money needs to be
raised. The organisers have not stated how much the mission will cost nor how much
they need to raise, saying only that it is much cheaper than one would imagine a Mars
mission to be. Ms Poynter did however confirm that a significant amount of money still
needed to be raised.Anu Ojha believes that unless the venture is 100% underwritten at
this stage it won't get off the ground.

"If a bunch of billionaires have committed the approx $1-2bn required, then we could
see history being made in under five years. If (at the) the press conference they say 'we
have this fantastic concept but need the money - please give generously' then it's dead
in the water," he told BBC News.However Prof Riley is more optimistic. "There are lots
of big ifs in trying to achieve this epic endeavour, but none which are totally
insurmountable given enough money and assistance, and the will to do it," he said.

"It takes mavericks like Tito to create such pivot points in history where significant
things happen, and such a trip would be as significant as Apollo 8's first
circumnavigation of the Moon on Christmas Eve 1968, when the world listened in to the
reflections of the first human beings to orbit another world.

"Perhaps fifty years later, on Christmas Eve 2018 we might be all tuning in to a similar
broadcast from Mars. I hope so!"

The effort represents the latest development in private sector companies moving into
space exploration. Last December, one of the last men on the Moon, Harrison Schmitt,
told BBC News that he believed Nasa and other government run space agencies
were "too inefficient" to be able to send astronauts back to the Moon.


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Cidersomerset
22nd April 2013, 17:37
I have an ex-husband I'll volunteer!

Well Ba-Ba-Ra Mars is going to be a busy destination......


Mars Incorporated: Russia & Europe team up for Red Planet expedition/ Pretending to live on Mars..



Mars seems to be a popular place at the the momment.............


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Published on 15 Mar 2013

Russian space agency Roscosmos signed a deal on Thursday with the European Space
Agency (ESA), to become a full-fledged partner in the ExoMars project, a new attempt
to discover if there is life on the Red Planet, as RT's Egor Piskunov reports - READ MORE http://on.rt.com/v42svz


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13 March 2013 Last updated at 08:18 In pictures:

Pretending to live on Mars


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Tesla_WTC_Solution
22nd April 2013, 18:34
I wonder how many years it will take before the first child is born on Mars...

can you imagine the reaction? Would the child be a Martian? LOL.
Maybe he could be president?

Anyhow I think machines should construct the initial habitations (I can't imagine trying to perform traditional construction on mars),
and when conditions are good using the simplest means possible, people should then be sent and not earlier.

the biggest mistake would be forgetting something crucial or overlooking something obvious,
which could compromise the colonization effort and cause disinterest in the project,

much like space shuttle Challenger and Columbia and Apollo 13 caused some terror in regards to developments in space.

also the astronauts should have to undergo not only isolation tests but rigorous physical tests.
we don't want wimps on mars!!!

Zampano
22nd April 2013, 18:49
Couple of days ago I watched the TED-Talk with Mars One!

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Cidersomerset
22nd April 2013, 19:51
Big Brother goes to Mars - Radio Netherlands Worldwide 12072012

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Dutchman Bas Lansdorp has unveiled what he calls "serious plans" to send a
mission of four astronauts to live on Mars. According to Lansdorp, the technology
exists to realise the plan within a decade, but it will be a one-way ticket to the red
planet.

Mr. Lansdorp says the Mars One project would cost approximately six billion US
dollars. No taxpayers' money would be involved. The commercial operation would
be financed by selling television rights to watch the technical Big Brother reality
show.


You will leave the Big Broth House !!

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The Winners are .........

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Ammit
22nd April 2013, 20:07
Send them two dosey F@~$%^S and you might start an intergalactic war........

Cidersomerset
22nd April 2013, 20:33
Send them two dosey F@~$%^S and you might start an intergalactic war........


If the Greys had abducted them, the would have given up their experiments by now ..LOL..



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I was not expecting to be talking about Jedwood, the model of humanity..LOL...