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we-R-one
23rd April 2013, 08:17
The purpose of this topic derived when I made this comment in another thread:


They call it "new" science, but I will go out on a limb and say it's the science that's always existed as you are living in the past here on Earth; IMO there is nothing "new" about it, but that's material for another thread.

Of course not wanting to go off topic, I said I would explain further by starting a new thread, so here I am. This is a theory I have so please don’t crucify me, I have no way of proving it, but it makes sense and maybe it will resonate with fellow Avalonians and guests. I came to this conclusion based on some profound personal experiences that continually seem to occur for me, many which I have already posted on Avalon. My awakening period in the summer of 10 went extremely fast, so I would say I started coming to this conclusion around the end of 2010, but so much was happening I can’t really remember exactly when the epiphany hit me……so here’s the dot connecting as to what I’m suggesting.

The awakening process occurred when I began to look within for the answers. At the time, I didn’t understand that I was” looking within” because I was so blown away with what was happening I hadn’t come to recognize the term “looking within” as a frame of reference if that makes sense. So I share this because I want to squelch any naysayers of comments that suggest this came from some guru or “new age” material.

Part of my spiritual awakening included the discovery that I was a Star Seed. No, the term “star seed” is not a label, so please don’t bring that up. Star Seeds are a subculture of the human race as a mountain lion would be a subculture of the feline race. Star Seeds have specific physical characteristics and attributes, which is why I believe we’re a subculture. I use the example of the felines because there are so many different varieties of that species, from the domesticated house cat, to the panther running in the wild. Hope that makes sense. I really don’t want to debate that aspect, who cares, right? Back to the story….

There are several who have “studied and documented Star Seeds, enough to where similar patterns can be found amongst the individuals. It’s just that we’re not recognized, on a mass scale in the mainstream, I mean lame stream media and since people are accustomed to having someone tell them how to think, many won’t know who we are or that we even exist because no one of “moral authority” in “their” mind (get it? lol, kinda referring to another thread) is making the claim. Common attributes of Star Seeds revolve around metaphysical abilities, which deal with energy. If you’re not certain what Star Seeds are, please research on the web as there’s much info about what we are and you can even find some threads on Avalon. I’m assuming most members are familiar with the term.

So why do we live in the past and where do I get this notion? When I look back on my life and recall all the metaphysical experiences I had and continue to have, I began questioning how I would know how to do some of these things. Such things as telepathy, time dilation, mind control, aura reading, cross species communication, clairvoyance etc. were typical happenings. What’s even more interesting is when I did these things, I never questioned what I was doing, I just did it like it was natural. I would think a normal response one would have when they did something out of the ordinary involving one of these metaphysical occurrences would be, “omg, I can’t believe I just did that” kind of reaction. Well I never thought that way, I never questioned the ability. It was if I had already accepted it as being natural; like this is what everybody can do. So it made me wonder why that was. Somewhere I learned these skill sets and yet I have no formal training in any kind of esoteric teachings, I do not meditate (I know, shame on me), and I have never taken any classes on any of these topics. All my experiences were organic. The most profound was the kundalini I had at the age of 24. Who does that???? That is not normal, imo. So that’s why I bring it up. If you read about kundalinis most people who have them have esoteric knowledge or some type of formal training. Some spend years trying to achieve this state of consciousness without success. Usually those who do, meditate. I sat at a Dave Wilcock seminar back in 2011 with over 200 people. When asked who meditated I was one of 4 who didn’t raise their hand….how embarrassing. When asked if anyone had ever had a kundalini, I was the only one in the room who had experienced one. Could the reason be that I had one, because I wasn’t distracted with all the mumbo jumbo one is likely taught to create the experience there-by clouding the process? I dunno…..Anyways….the point being, is somewhere I learned how to do these things; I wouldn't consider any of it common earth-like behavior or thought processes.

As my understanding grew, it occurred to me, that holy crap, it’s very possible I’m from the future. Some of you may be thinking, what??? If you have the understanding that you are consciousness not your body, you realize that you can go anywhere (this is actually part of the definition of a spiritual awakening, imo). You also realize in the same token that if you can go anywhere, there’s a very real possibility you’ve already been to other places. All one has to do is study NDE stories and reincarnation to connect the dots. Though I have never had a NDE,…..I do have experience with reincarnation and my own personal story (again because I was looking within}, no need for convincing there. So when I say you’re living in the past here on Earth, most likely many of us are! As the story goes, Star Seeds are typically known to be older souls, which could be why we can easily manipulate energy, something that is quite common when dealing with the metaphysical. The knowledge is gained from living so many life times.

I also mentioned that the “new science” as they call it, probably isn’t really “new” it’s just the way it’s always been in this Universe except it’s been hidden from us for so long in order to maintain control. They don’t want you to know how powerful you really are, because obviously, ”they” would lose control of the population. The belief systems are part of the reasons as to why humanity cannot advance. And this is why I promote Epigenetics often on this forum, because if you understand the concept, you will understand how this knowledge can benefit mankind in more ways than just medical at least that's how I perceive it.

Most of us on Avalon accept that E.T.’s are real. No I’m not going to debate that fact. If one can’t acknowledge the evidence such has hieroglyphics, old writings, artifacts etc….I can’t help them. It’s obvious that these races are 20 times more advanced than we are. So keeping that in mind, in addition to understanding that one is consciousness that can go anywhere, combined with my own personal experiences in dealing with the manipulation of energy, are all factors that led me to the belief that I am from the future living in the past……and if I’m living in the past, unless you’re a really new soul….and most likely you’re not, because I don’t think you’d be on Avalon,….you are likewise from the future living in the past here on Earth.

Would love to hear what you guys think and maybe some of you have thought the same? Again, this is only a theory so please don’t kill the messenger.

Another1
23rd April 2013, 08:53
I play with this idea (we're from the future) just for fun mostly, am not published and not an expert on time travel.

I imagine us as being able to connect with this future self and that some of us here, work together there, attempting to share between the timelines. This breaks lots of rules that other authors created before me but in a multi-verse it would be acceptable I think.


When asked if anyone had ever had a kundalini, I was the only one in the room who had experienced one. Could the reason be that I had one, because I wasn’t distracted with all the mumbo jumbo one is likely taught to create the experience there-by clouding the process?

It's my firm opine that many things possible for all of us are clouded in this manner on purpose, by design. I've seen bright young, gifted spirits step into chat rooms over the years that were easily slapped into a new prison of thought real quick by people who digested books 'n methods 'n rules to memorize. Some of these folks payed many $1,000s to become special. A teenager who woke up fullly overnight for free can be a pain in the rear for them *g

deridan
23rd April 2013, 10:40
...I'm trying to flesh-out studies in my latest interest of esoterics,
and find that the learning revolution we've undertaken in the last couple of years were actually literally literally present in books, of age ca100years and older.
showing that our wilcocks etc. have been rehashing what was already present.

we are more than what we can have accessible within this life frame,,, justifying a past on our part.
& where can many of my hopes be satisfied in this present?,,, hence a justifiable frame for being present in the future
....yeah stone-age living, ..satisfying various karmic elements the earth syllabus has oppeenned up to,... what else,
...oh how to negate this now?... lobby , make noise,..etc. that only for a privileged few, rather all can strive to break the karmic patterns which keeps our reality LOCKED

CD7
23rd April 2013, 12:16
I don't know so much from the future persay..BUT I am definitely beating to a different drummer...out of my element...

I enVision/feel a different space/reality often...its more like a space with different "laws" emotions

Time to me is a very distorted context...I don't necessarily think of it being from the future...to me its different frequencies..

Some of us may explain it differently and it just comes down to semantics...but I definitely Feel out of my element here...empathize with anyone who feels along these lines...

Lifebringer
23rd April 2013, 13:40
On the living int he past stuff, yeah, I feel you on that one. However, with that living in the past, is past negative horrific karma unsettled/or as I say "unfinished business" on those who caused it all. Every galactic time cycle, the karma must come before the new age. I bleieve we starseeds are here to smooth and comfort and explain what we know and feel to others who will, quite frankly be shocked.

I also know about what you speak on the natural energies of this planet, and the familiarity of working on behalf of something greater than ourselves, always for the children's future, for without someone to plan the peace and diplomatic unity of the human citizens on this planet, utilizing the internet communication, we would all not be meeting under so strange or familiar circumstances around the world of every color of God's/Creator's rainbow. We are the rainbows of the sky people/Universe. I firmly believe the good is winning as we reach out, not using the biases and ism's. They aren't thought of here, nor practiced through intent here and althroughout Avalon. We pick up on the spooks right away, and instinct tells us to shut our minds to/recognize and shield ourselves/protect ourselves from not "falling in spirit, when it is most needed now at this time. Yes the info flows and the rays of light shine in our minds and hearts as we see through the "unga-ga" and shovel it out the path as we plant our future of safety, non-violation of basic human rights of privacy and choice, peace, health and prosperity of spirit, planet and family.

Realeyes
23rd April 2013, 13:57
We-R-One, thank you for this excellent thought provoking post! It is so wonderful to read the uniqueness of how so many of us ‘arrive’ at realising how Time is so fluid and that we are very much a part of the future and simultaneously ‘are’ from the future in this ‘here and now’.

For myself, since a very young child I knew things, really ‘Knew’ things from a Soul perspective about this reality before I even started nursery school about how this reality/history was going to unfold, the craziness that distracts us from the soulful spiritual journey keeping us busy in the mundane and superfluous. I came in with past life memory experience/recalls, and noticed how aspects of past lives bled through and played out around me in my present life. It is fascinating to observe.

Also I have naturally had out of body experiences all my life, which allowed me to reconnect to my greater Spirit of who I AM and see clearly the bigger Soul picture; this was like a spiritual ‘top-up’ making sure I did not fall asleep away from Spirit here on Earth. Out of bodies for myself is not confined to night time while asleep, many times I would spontaneously while awake doing something mundane like washing the dishes etc to instantaneously find my conscious self somewhere completely different, many times off world existing in another body that is a future self, with a greater lasered conscious awareness and knowingness. It was through such experiences I knew that the present ‘me’ experiencing this Earth walk is a ‘past echo’ of Self, liken to an old movie replaying. This is not to invalidate this present experience; I am ‘here’ for a reason not only for my own Soul growth reclaiming fragments of self that is locked in a holding pattern in this past echo, as I understand that many of us have returned from the future to raise the oscillation of frequency of conscious awareness on this planet during these critical times.

Inho, Past, Present and Future are simultaneously happening NOW. I have personally discovered from my own Soul journeys that I have not reincarnated linearly working my way up the Ages, rather I have hopped about, so sometimes my future self that is more consciously aware exists in an older Time (if perceived linearly). For instance the spiritual abilities I had in Ancient Egypt were breathtaking, I knew all about travelling through Stargates and conversing with other Star Beings. I mention this, as for myself my ‘Future Self’ is not what I would deem linearly the ‘Future’ far over there yet to happen, it is dotted all over Time. AND the more I connect to these Future aspects of self, the more self empowered, consciously aware, unconditionally loving, connected to all life, the wonders of Soul/Spirit/Self constantly expanding into who I am becoming. I have even had the experience of re-connecting to a Future Self that is hundreds of thousands of years into the future, this can feel at first very bizarre and alien, as my future self’s lasered consciousness is so different compared to my present self.

For me, the spiritual journey is all about marching forwarding, constantly expanding becoming more multidimensional and consciously aware that the present ‘me’ is just one aspect of a greater whole that is all working together in purposeful unison. Most of us fall into the trap and look back in our past and how certain events gained us wisdom; yet the same applies also with our future, where we can anchor in such future wisdoms, because when we see and understand that Time is simultaneous in the NOW, that past, present and future is all NOW, it is all valid. The Future is just as real and valid as my Past. The more I tap into this, the greater awareness I am in the present. It is from the Present NOW that I access these greater parts of Self.

I am not sure if I have made sense here, it is hard to explain in limited language a quantum multidimensional state of realities. I long for when humanity regains their telepathic abilities, as this subject is so exciting and if I could have telepathically explained this, it would have been done in a nano second of thought rather than a jumbled set of sentences.

Thanks again for creating this thread; I very much look forward in reading other members experiences and wisdoms, as imho, anchoring our future self in this ‘here and now’ is a vital key to humanities awakening journey. Smile.

crosby
23rd April 2013, 14:06
recently, i have started having a new 'twist' to my awakening aspects. this twist feels like this: when we are sleeping and perhaps dreaming of something we do not favor, we have the ability at times to 'change the channel' or realize that we are dreaming, awaken and then go about our normal daily rituals and routines. lately, i have been having that same feeling while i am awake, that i need to wake up and go about my usual business. it is very weird, because i know that i am not sleeping and it is not night time....... does anybody have a clue to this, or am i just slowly losing my mind? any help in understanding this would be great.
warmest regards, corson

soleil
23rd April 2013, 14:27
hi we-r-one, i'll bite. because i know what you are talking about here...


Such things as telepathy, time dilation, mind control, aura reading, cross species communication, clairvoyance etc. were typical happenings.

ive been able to do telepathy with my fiance although mostly me to him, but i cannot actually force it. darn...

time dilation, although i only just learned what that was from googling the definition...yes i have experienced that. although i'm not sure, it is a feeling of me moving slow, my conciousness, but my body moving very fast. i had this experience MANY times as a child and it always freaked me out. but i was able to make it go away - via suppression, sheer anxiety from it? i dont know. but if this is an aspect of that, then yes.
clairvoyance, yes. i've been able to pick up on who is going to come into a room, predictions (im learning to be more accurate though). finding where things are, etc. again, on these metaphysical things, i havent been able to do any of these on command though.

and some cross species, i'm sure if you count my cats (in this life), and my imagination as a child. i really did think it was normal to be able to communicate with some/all animals/bugs etc.

i'm interested to hear more about this, as i've read about star seeds, but without much actual information (aside from fluffy bunny type stuff) on the subject, its hard to really give it my actual attention. i'd love to read more about star seeds. i did do the astrological natal chart, as i read that they are only on half the side of the astrological map. this was positive for my chart, though, without anything further to go on, i havent given starseeds much of a thought.

i also have not read anything dolores cannon. i have not been able to find her books free (to date), and i cannot order them on amazon at this time.

SlickWillie
23rd April 2013, 18:43
I've started having the same sort of feelings. They started for me this past October. It took me months to become comfortable with the possibility. I'm still trying to search inside for truth. This forum brings about great discussion on topics I think about often.

I often wonder if since we are one...if we eventually will live out every life, past and present until we elevate to the next dimension. This is why it is so important to treat others "like you would yourself"! Because it is yourself!

we-R-one
23rd April 2013, 21:08
When asked if anyone had ever had a kundalini, I was the only one in the room who had experienced one. Could the reason be that I had one, because I wasn’t distracted with all the mumbo jumbo one is likely taught to create the experience there-by clouding the process?

It's my firm opine that many things possible for all of us are clouded in this manner on purpose, by design. I've seen bright young, gifted spirits step into chat rooms over the years that were easily slapped into a new prison of thought real quick by people who digested books 'n methods 'n rules to memorize. Some of these folks payed many $1,000s to become special. A teenager who woke up fullly overnight for free can be a pain in the rear for them *g

Very interesting responses from everyone, thank you so much! I have wondered this too....if some of the methods being taught are inaccurate. There's so much fraud infiltered in with the truth, that it's impossible to weed through it all. I tell my story because I want people to know that it is possible and you don't have to have major training or meditate for hours on end. I suppose if you want to stay in that higher state of consciousness for long periods of time you would have to have some serious skill sets. Because you're dealing with energy fields that are influenced by all. I suspect you would have to be isolated from others in order to not have the interference of any lower vibrational fields.


Inho, Past, Present and Future are simultaneously happening NOW. I have personally discovered from my own Soul journeys that I have not reincarnated linearly working my way up the Ages, rather I have hopped about, so sometimes my future self that is more consciously aware exists in an older Time (if perceived linearly). For instance the spiritual abilities I had in Ancient Egypt were breathtaking, I knew all about travelling through Stargates and conversing with other Star Beings. I mention this, as for myself my ‘Future Self’ is not what I would deem linearly the ‘Future’ far over there yet to happen, it is dotted all over Time. AND the more I connect to these Future aspects of self, the more self empowered, consciously aware, unconditionally loving, connected to all life, the wonders of Soul/Spirit/Self constantly expanding into who I am becoming. I have even had the experience of re-connecting to a Future Self that is hundreds of thousands of years into the future, this can feel at first very bizarre and alien, as my future self’s lasered consciousness is so different compared to my present self.

For me, the spiritual journey is all about marching forwarding, constantly expanding becoming more multidimensional and consciously aware that the present ‘me’ is just one aspect of a greater whole that is all working together in purposeful unison. Most of us fall into the trap and look back in our past and how certain events gained us wisdom; yet the same applies also with our future, where we can anchor in such future wisdoms, because when we see and understand that Time is simultaneous in the NOW, that past, present and future is all NOW, it is all valid. The Future is just as real and valid as my Past. The more I tap into this, the greater awareness I am in the present. It is from the Present NOW that I access these greater parts of Self.

I am not sure if I have made sense here, it is hard to explain in limited language a quantum multidimensional state of realities. I long for when humanity regains their telepathic abilities, as this subject is so exciting and if I could have telepathically explained this, it would have been done in a nano second of thought rather than a jumbled set of sentences.

Thanks again for creating this thread; I very much look forward in reading other members experiences and wisdoms, as imho, anchoring our future self in this ‘here and now’ is a vital key to humanities awakening journey. Smile.

Real Eyes, you make some great points! Personally I still struggle with the first sentence of your comments above, but I think I'm almost there.....I keep hoping every time I hear this, someone will explain it in a manner that clicks in my brain.....and you know what...I think what you said is helping. Obviously I have some "programming" I need to deal with, lol. It is very hard to put this in writing so I understand what you're saying...I'm trying to think the best way to type out my question where it would make sense for the reader in regards to what you brought up. So if I'm "getting it".....when you say the Past, Present and Future are all happening at the same time, could be another example which explains how that can be:

We have E.T.'s who are obviously more advanced than humans, so it's safe to say they're from the future and are living in the future now which is the Present. People on Earth, because they're not as advanced are living in the past which is also in the now. Does that make sense?

What I don't get it, and maybe I've mis-understood, is how does an individual live in the past, present and future at the same time? Can your consciousness be in more than one place at the same time? I can see how your physical body can be in the past, like on Earth, while your consciousness can be somewhere experiencing another realm...most likely through an OBE. It could be that what I read wasn't referencing an individual consciousness, but thought I would ask for hopes that someone could clarify.

we-R-one
23rd April 2013, 22:37
hi we-r-one, i'll bite. because i know what you are talking about here...


Such things as telepathy, time dilation, mind control, aura reading, cross species communication, clairvoyance etc. were typical happenings.

ive been able to do telepathy with my fiance although mostly me to him, but i cannot actually force it. darn...

time dilation, although i only just learned what that was from googling the definition...yes i have experienced that. although i'm not sure, it is a feeling of me moving slow, my conciousness, but my body moving very fast. i had this experience MANY times as a child and it always freaked me out. but i was able to make it go away - via suppression, sheer anxiety from it? i dont know. but if this is an aspect of that, then yes.
clairvoyance, yes. i've been able to pick up on who is going to come into a room, predictions (im learning to be more accurate though). finding where things are, etc. again, on these metaphysical things, i havent been able to do any of these on command though.

and some cross species, i'm sure if you count my cats (in this life), and my imagination as a child. i really did think it was normal to be able to communicate with some/all animals/bugs etc.

i'm interested to hear more about this, as i've read about star seeds, but without much actual information (aside from fluffy bunny type stuff) on the subject, its hard to really give it my actual attention. i'd love to read more about star seeds. i did do the astrological natal chart, as i read that they are only on half the side of the astrological map. this was positive for my chart, though, without anything further to go on, i havent given starseeds much of a thought.

i also have not read anything dolores cannon. i have not been able to find her books free (to date), and i cannot order them on amazon at this time.

I'm glad you brought up time dilation....you know, I didn't even know what I was doing because I had no word or frame of reference to describe the behavior. As soon as I came across the various descriptions of Star Seed characteristics and they listed time dilation as one of them, I knew exactly what it was.......finally, I thought, a word that matched what I had been doing as a child. The only instance I remember doing the time dilation was as a young child driving in the car on long road trips for vacations with my family. Of course I was thinking....this is taking way to long and I want to get there faster and somehow I would speed the time up. I don't even know how to explain it and I was too little to maintain the memory of exactly what I did to create the situation, or what I was thinking at that moment....so when I came across that word, the memories instantly came back.

Like yourself, abilities seem to be random. I try to pay close attention to my subconscious thinking whenever I have an incident take place so that I can become more aware of what and how it's happening. You might find helpful to read two books written by Dr. Scott Mandelker. He has done the most extensive studies on Star Seeds that I know of....He's interviewed a 1000+ plus of us and you will find many patterns of similarities amongst those he's interviewed. I was so grateful for his work because everything he said resonated with what I was experiencing/feeling. The name of his books are E.T. In America, and Universal Vision. Just google him and his site will come up.

Another person to consider is Jelaila Star. You can find her website at www.nibiruancouncil.com. She didn't do the same type of research that Mandelker did, instead, her information comes from channeling. Now I completely understand how that can turn people off and yes, I do believe you have to be careful because most channeling turns our to be bogus. All I can say is her Star Seed info matched my characteristics/situations perfectly and I had never met her in my life. I can't confirm the rest of her material, though I have looked at it, it's difficult to prove. So like anything else it's up to the individual to decide for themselves. She also discuses The Polarity Integration Game being played here on Earth. So when I explored the concept, it matched several situations I found myself to be in, especially the thought process I had that created the kundalini. So there is something to her material which is why I won't blow her off as quickly as others. I speak up on her behalf, because I want people to know that hey...there are some of us that are experiencing what she's getting from channeled information. If you read my kundalini story here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52810-The-Solution-Is-In-Full-Swing-Are-You-On-Board&p=594595&viewfull=1#post594595

then compare it to her definition of The Polarity Integration Game:

POLARITY INTEGRATION GAME- Polarity Integration is the integration of two opposites. In our universe, this is the “game for soul evolution.” We are here to integrate the two opposites of Light and Dark.

The Light is described as love, joy, bliss and all the emotions connected with the upper chakras. The Dark is described as fear, anger, blame, shame and all the emotions connected with the lower chakras.

The Light represents the “reward”, joy, happiness, bliss. The Dark represents the “lesson”, the challenge. Emotional/physical pain, and the emotions of fear and anger are what we must learn to value as part of the lesson.

Compassion is the goal of the game. Compassion is the integration point, the middle point of the two opposites. When the soul reaches true compassion, it feels acceptance for both sides, judging neither as inherently good or bad. Achieving compassion or integration means that a soul sees the value in both the Light and the Dark, and chooses to have both in balanced portions, as part of itself.
Each soul in this universe is playing the Polarity Integration Game in order to achieve spiritual evolution and eventual reunion with Divine Creator, the Source, All that Is.

One of the great challenges of the Polarity Integration Game is finding the value in the Dark. The Dark is the schoolhouse, and the classes are the lessons we desire to learn in order to achieve a balance of both within ourselves. Polarizing towards the Light or the Dark will stagnate one’s spiritual growth. This is crucial to understand as the destruction of a society could be eminent if this balance cannot be maintained.

You can see how her definition matches the experience perfectly! So this is why I seriously consider her work. I'm living what she's channeling. "The balance" was maintained for me when I embraced the dark part of the experience and not just the light.

One last person to take a look at in regards to Star Seed characteristics is www.dr.boylan.com. I'm not a fan of his website format, but a lot of the characteristics he listed matched and helped me come to terms with what I was discovering about myself. I have to stress this to anyone that begins to look within, you have the information inside you, but often you do not have the words and frame of reference to describe what you may be feeling/experiencing, because you've never been told, so recognize that as when you do, in time the words will come as you explore and it will all begin to make sense.

I really didn't want to get that deep into the Star Seed info because there are threads on Avalon that discuss this topic. The reason I brought it up initially is it was a big part of the reason I was having specific experiences and I needed to cover that aspect as it helps validate why I think myself and many others are from the future.

AwakeInADream
24th April 2013, 00:53
Fascinating concept We R One!:)

If we really are all one then it's reasonable to assume that our consciousness isn't bound by time, and so as well as being everywhere in space we can be everywhere in time too. It boggles the mind a bit, but then I do like my mind to be boggled.:biggrin:

These ideas about non linear time remind me of Philip K Dick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Dick)'s awakening/breakdown after which he thought of himself as living two parallel lives in two timelines that were running simultaneously. One life as himself, and the other as Thomas who lived as a persecuted Christian in the 1st century AD.

At one point he also believed that with the destruction of the Second Temple of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 C.E., "real time ceased" before starting again in 1945, when jars stuffed with ancient gnostic codices were discovered in Nag Hammadi, Egypt. (more about his spiritual experiences here:http://www.techgnosis.com/pkdnet.html)

sandy
24th April 2013, 01:22
Well I was going to add my 2 cents about everything being in the NOW and as mind started to explain this concept I befuddled myself with trying to define it...........................lol, thus all I can reiterate is it all happens in the NOW. To me there is no past or future only projections of such in our memory and or imagination that we investigate in the now, in this energy form :)

we-R-one
24th April 2013, 03:05
Thanks AwakeInADream I hadn't heard that story so I'll check out the links. Sandy- great way of putting it...it seems so simple now, but yes it's difficult to find the words. You basically have simultaneous realities existing at the same time. But often the way I've had it explained it makes it sound like I'm living my past lives all at once including the life I'm in now, and that's the part I don't get.

Realeyes
24th April 2013, 13:11
Inho, Past, Present and Future are simultaneously happening NOW. I have personally discovered from my own Soul journeys that I have not reincarnated linearly working my way up the Ages, rather I have hopped about, so sometimes my future self that is more consciously aware exists in an older Time (if perceived linearly). For instance the spiritual abilities I had in Ancient Egypt were breathtaking, I knew all about travelling through Stargates and conversing with other Star Beings. I mention this, as for myself my ‘Future Self’ is not what I would deem linearly the ‘Future’ far over there yet to happen, it is dotted all over Time. AND the more I connect to these Future aspects of self, the more self empowered, consciously aware, unconditionally loving, connected to all life, the wonders of Soul/Spirit/Self constantly expanding into who I am becoming. I have even had the experience of re-connecting to a Future Self that is hundreds of thousands of years into the future, this can feel at first very bizarre and alien, as my future self’s lasered consciousness is so different compared to my present self.

For me, the spiritual journey is all about marching forwarding, constantly expanding becoming more multidimensional and consciously aware that the present ‘me’ is just one aspect of a greater whole that is all working together in purposeful unison. Most of us fall into the trap and look back in our past and how certain events gained us wisdom; yet the same applies also with our future, where we can anchor in such future wisdoms, because when we see and understand that Time is simultaneous in the NOW, that past, present and future is all NOW, it is all valid. The Future is just as real and valid as my Past. The more I tap into this, the greater awareness I am in the present. It is from the Present NOW that I access these greater parts of Self.

I am not sure if I have made sense here, it is hard to explain in limited language a quantum multidimensional state of realities. I long for when humanity regains their telepathic abilities, as this subject is so exciting and if I could have telepathically explained this, it would have been done in a nano second of thought rather than a jumbled set of sentences.

Thanks again for creating this thread; I very much look forward in reading other members experiences and wisdoms, as imho, anchoring our future self in this ‘here and now’ is a vital key to humanities awakening journey. Smile.

Real Eyes, you make some great points! Personally I still struggle with the first sentence of your comments above, but I think I'm almost there.....I keep hoping every time I hear this, someone will explain it in a manner that clicks in my brain.....and you know what...I think what you said is helping. Obviously I have some "programming" I need to deal with, lol. It is very hard to put this in writing so I understand what you're saying...I'm trying to think the best way to type out my question where it would make sense for the reader in regards to what you brought up. So if I'm "getting it".....when you say the Past, Present and Future are all happening at the same time, could be another example which explains how that can be:

We have E.T.'s who are obviously more advanced than humans, so it's safe to say they're from the future and are living in the future now which is the Present. People on Earth, because they're not as advanced are living in the past which is also in the now. Does that make sense?

What I don't get it, and maybe I've mis-understood, is how does an individual live in the past, present and future at the same time? Can your consciousness be in more than one place at the same time? I can see how your physical body can be in the past, like on Earth, while your consciousness can be somewhere experiencing another realm...most likely through an OBE. It could be that what I read wasn't referencing an individual consciousness, but thought I would ask for hopes that someone could clarify.

We-R-One thanking you for your question, I truly understand what a head spinner this is, to get one’s head around that ‘ALL Time is happening simultaneously Now’, and what a huge leap this takes beyond the common physical perceptions of linear time. I am not sure where to begin yet I will do my best to explain as simply as I can.

From my own experiences I have understood ‘Consciousness is nonlocal’, my greater observer/co-creator god/higher self (whatever one chooses to call this wholeness conscious part of Self) has ‘no boundaries’. The potentials are infinite and very exciting! I am jumping the gun here, so I will tone down and start with examples of how ‘Time’ is very flexible and not linear.

Just before my 8th birthday, my mother, sister and I moved to my Grandparents house to live, situated in a little sleepy English country village, it was 1975. Around the 3rd day my grandmother sent me on an errand to purchase potatoes from the local greengrocer shop that was just down the road (1/4 of a mile). I was rewarded with extra money to purchase some sweets.

Off I went skipping along merrily imagining in my mind what sweets I would purchase as my hands clasped the coins. I was halfway towards the local village shops when quicker than a blink of an eye, the tarmac footpath, tarmac road, and the long row of houses (to my left) with parked cars outside all completely vanished and now found my feet were standing on a dirt road with the row of houses replaced with a mature Cherry orchard! I stopped instantly in my tracks, scuffing up the dirt now under my feet into dust clouds with disbelief. Everything was eerily quiet, no sign of any cars, and now to my right was a coal merchant’s house with a horse and cart; there was now a pub just further down from this. How on earth could solid physical brick buildings and tarmac roads just instantly vanish? Curiously I absolutely knew I had just gone back in Time around 50-60 years; as to how this had happened, I had no idea, but I could touch the green hedges, the house gates, the dirt on the ground, all was perfectly solid and in physical reality order.

It is funny how children panic over the simplest of things; I panicked that maybe the greengrocer shop would not exist and Grandma would be angry for not having potatoes for dinner that night. I stayed in this past Time Flow for around 5 minutes observing all that was around me. Then I curiously just ‘knew’ using a focussed will power that I could revert forward to my ‘expected’ Time flow; I started to run willing that by the time I ‘arrived’ around the bend in the road that Time would return to 1975 – it did, but it was quicker than a blink, so did not see how the reality process reformed.

My mother told me I was daydreaming - I adamantly disagreed, I was fully awake and solid reality had changed before my physical being. Four years later I did a personal school project about my village and borrowed from a local villager his old black and white photos of the village going back 60 years ago; the photos showed everything in fine detail as to what I had experienced; it was all historically true and valid!

This phenomenal experience changed my life perspectives regarding Reality and Time, it may generally seem solid and linear most of the time, YET my experience proved that Reality and Time are also very flexible and changeable.

Science calls this phenomenon ‘Time Slips’; it is not a new phenomena, it has happened to thousands of people around the world since history has been written down. My first experience of a Time Slip was pretty mild; I have had grander ones since, one involving a group of 23 people walking in line chatting among themselves while we walked up a narrow single path to the summit of Mount Sinai. I was in mid conversation, quicker than a blink everyone I knew vanished and was instantly replaced by a German group of people. This Time Slip phenomena lasted around ½ - ¾ of an hour and was quite dramatic because when I was walking over a mighty ravine a ferocious gust of wind spun me off my feet and I should have plummeted to my death, but was saved by a strong German woman who grabbed me and saved my life. When I finally reached the summit ‘alive’, no German group existed on that particular day! I mention this because it validates how ‘solid’ these experiences are and can happen even when around a group of people.

For me these are examples of Time happening simultaneously in the Now in the same geographical location. If one researches just the phenomena of Time Slips there have been some mind boggling experiences; such as two couples staying a whole night in a French Inn, dinning and sleeping the night, having breakfast the next day before leaving, to then discover a year later when they decided to stay at that French Inn – it had burnt down around 200 years ago! I know such things sound impossible, yet they are only impossible if we only accept linear time as being law.

Looking at the flexibility of reality in another way, there have been cases of people who have multiple personalities where one of the personalities has cancer and has been medically tested to prove this; yet another personality (the same body) does not have cancer; this has baffled doctors.

I could write more, yet this post is already getting very long and it is not my intention to hijack your thread. I will end this post with something I experienced many times in out of body states. Many people talk about their true self being liken to a bright ‘star’ with infinite rays shinning out. The centre of the star is our grand observer/god/higher self etc and each ray represents a lifetime (happening somewhere); all rays exist and are happening simultaneously now, yet we might describe them from our ‘Earth here now perspective’ as being in a particular time flow of - past, present and future. The centre point of this Star is Multidimensional Conscious Awareness.

I do understand this is a mighty head spin to wrap one’s mind around; I have been living with this understanding since a child. Imho, the more open and dimensionally minded we become, working first with our acceptance and willingness to learn more about this – is what opens the doors to the phenomena people all around the world have been dipping into. If we entrench our beliefs only being linear 3D, linear 3D is what we get. When we sincerely and curiously open our minds to other potentials such as multiple dimensions, Time existing simultaneously, Self existing simultaneously etc, this is where miraculous healing occurs, UFO sightings, Contact, phenomena, Future Mind, Time Travel and a whole host of other wonderful awe inspiring experiences and new spiritual abilities that reconnect our conscious awareness to Soul , Spirit and our awesome Divineness of SELF. :love:

we-R-one
26th April 2013, 03:53
Real Eyes, what an awesome story! I'm just taking it all in....I think anything is possible and I truly feel it's our belief systems that prevent us from advancing forward. I'm getting better with the "everything is now" concept. I just can't figure out how you can go back in time or live many lives at once. It's not that I don't believe it's possible, I just can't seem to visualize/understand how it's possible. It's like I'm missing a piece of information that would allow my mind to connect the dot. I do think there are dimensions we can't see and I wonder if that's why you hear stories where people disappear and then come back to discuss how they were experiencing being in the past; very similar to what you're describing. But supposedly if I understand correctly, our past lives are still occurring and what I do currently in this life time will affect those lifetimes. I just don't get how your past life can keep occurring? Are these just projections that play over and over again? so then you can visit any time you'd like?

Orph
26th April 2013, 04:30
Inho, Past, Present and Future are simultaneously happening NOW.



Real Eyes, you make some great points! Personally I still struggle with the first sentence of your comments above,

We have E.T.'s who are obviously more advanced than humans, so it's safe to say they're from the future and are living in the future now which is the Present. People on Earth, because they're not as advanced are living in the past which is also in the now.

What I don't get it, and maybe I've mis-understood, is how does an individual live in the past, present and future at the same time? Can your consciousness be in more than one place at the same time? I can see how your physical body can be in the past, like on Earth, while your consciousness can be somewhere experiencing another realm...most likely through an OBE. It could be that what I read wasn't referencing an individual consciousness, but thought I would ask for hopes that someone could clarify.Here's something else to think about. Suppose you are an archeologist searching for dinosaur bones and you scour a certain section of land and find nothing. A year later you go back to the same spot but this time you find the bones of a T-Rex. You wonder how you didn't find these bones a year ago, since they had been there for a million years. But last year, the T-Rex that was living a million years ago hadn't died yet in it's "present" time format. So the bones were not there for you to find last year. Haha. Did I confuse you more?

Actually, it's all about perception. The "book" analogy helped me understand. If you think of your life as a book, you perceive your life one day at a time, one page at a time. But a higher self you can see your whole life as the completed book. From the higher self perspective your life is there all at once. Just like a book. Only the book is alive and changing. We live in a linear time world, so it's only our perception that time even exists. You have to not think of it from our perspective, but rather from a higher, or outside of us perspective. If you try and bring it into our perspective here in linear time, it gets befuddling.

Jules
26th April 2013, 04:40
I was at a point of living in the past for a time, then in a concept of a future. Then I realize whatever was or whatever will be we should live for today or better yet this moment. Yes, we should figure out what is needed in a short part of time to live okay in this time and place, but there is no better time to think about than today... I am still finding answers, and if I knew them I might tell them to the best before the worst. If we think best, then it can really be... Don't think worst, it's not in our nature. Be the hero, you wish you had in your life...