The Aliens want to take over our planet !!!

[Nanoo Nanoo]

If you were observing and interacting with an ant colony would you eventually want to kill them all off so you can take over their nest ?

hmmm


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[andrewgreen]

I wouldn't want to take over the nest of an ant colony.

[GoodETxSG]

What makes you think we control the planet now?

[Molope]

It woud be more like bees,we farm honey from Bees that live in places we built for them so its easier for us to collect their "resources" AKA the Honey.They dont know they are being farmed..just an idea.

[kaon]

Am I the only one who feels guilty when I step on an ant's mound? I like to watch them and observe their behavior and appreciate them for what they are. They really have nothing of value to me. Their houses are too small and their clothes don't fit me. :p

[JohnEAngel]

that type of thinking may result in ants in the pants. :eek:

[gripreaper]

What makes you think the aliens haven't already taken over the planet, and we are now chimeric beings ourselves, part alien?

[bruno dante]

Well then all the sadistic fun would be over, wouldn't it?

Power and control only exist so long as there are those to control and have power over.

[Mandala]

I wouldn't want any part of this hot mess. If they are ETs they know what they want, and they don't want this.
We are broken, a freakin mess. I think the positive ETs would want to see it through to a positive outcome if they are what they seem to be. If not, with the extraterrestrial technology that is out there, we are so screwed. They would annihilate us.

[beyondmyctrl]

If you were observing and interacting with an ant colony would you eventually want to kill them all off so you can take over their nest ?

Nope, where would be the fun in that ? What's the point of ruling over the planet if there's no one to rule over ? Much better to make them work, pay taxes, and suffer through their lives while I'm sitting back sippin' marguaritas :)

That being said, I know it's not a popular opinion but although I do strongly believe we've been visited, there's no way i'll ever believe they mean us harm (killing us all and invading our planet kind of harm) if they did, they'd've done it already and there's absolutely nothing we couild do to defend ourselves.

Part of me believes that they could be walking among us and holding positions of power in our government. But other parts of me think it's highly unlikely, the human race is not that good at keeping secrets. I dunno... time will tell I guess... but that's another thing I don't think will happen anytime soon: official disclosure, I'd like to see it happen soon but i think we won't have the pleasure for at least another 10 to 15 years, but like I said, that's just my own opinion....

[heysoulsister]

If you were observing and interacting with an ant colony would you eventually want to kill them all off so you can take over their nest ?

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If the Aliens want to take over our planet ...
And they have been observing the ant colony and interacting with it, and are now planing to kill the ants off to take the nest.

Then that's fine but anything that one being does to another has to be enfolded back through time and re-inacted back onto them so that they can understand what they have created/done.

Does the Aliens observing the ant colony understand the LORE's of the Universe and are they abiding by them?

[Star Tsar]

Why "take over our planet" when they can explore the boundless cosmos?

[meat suit]

no you wouldnt... who would want to live in an ants nest....except ants...and they already got a nest....



If you were observing and interacting with an ant colony would you eventually want to kill them all off so you can take over their nest ?

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[Nanoo Nanoo]

no you wouldnt... who would want to live in an ants nest....except ants...and they already got a nest....



If you were observing and interacting with an ant colony would you eventually want to kill them all off so you can take over their nest ?

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Thank you !

now we are getting somewhere : 0 )


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[The Truth Is In There]

your comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

[Wookie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFg21x2sj-M

Peaceful Journeys Wookie

[David Trd1]

From our perspective of ants probabaly not,but thats just the problem...

Its OUR perspective.

[Prodigal Son]

If ants could be trained to mine gold, or if we could tax the crap out of their labor, or if we could somehow feed off their energy, particularly fear energy, then this analogy would make more sense [to me]. ;)

Edited after Paul's comment in post #20 :whistle:

[Observer1964]

Nice topic, and one of my favorit topics in general.
I spent quite some time (more than 20 yrs by now) thinking about this possibility of an alien takeover, reading all i could find, and trying to correlate all things I noticed.
Studying all of von Däniken's books, the work of R.C. Hoagland, sumerian tabletts, conspiracy theories and UFO-Alien contact stories and from all of this a very clear picture crystalises out.

Looking at our Earth we can see all kind of traces of past events, the way the continents are shaped and spread out, the difference in one side and the other like the pacific and atlantic side, the archeological finds, Myths, legends, historic or religious texts, all is related to each other and when taken together and put in the right place like when you solve a puzzle, the history can be understood.
There are several Alien Intelligences out there good and bad, and both types intervened at times in our history. But most ppl have no clue about our history or the history of the Earth.
I think the Terra Papers comes closesth to the real truth in telling this story about this history.
Basicly it comes down to this;
Earth is a remnant of a planet that was once in the orbit that now is occupied by asteroids between Mars and Jupiter. That planet was destroyed in a galactic war by the impact of a planet-sized space-dreadnaught, like the deathstar in StarWars.
The part that became Earth fell down to the orbit it now has. was re-seeded, and we humans were made to work the gold-mines. (the reason we only use 10% of our brain)
I dont think Aliens want to take over this planet, they see it as theirs and we are a kind of infestation.
On the other hand there is the interference of higher dimensions, beings from higer dimension see the forces that basicly threaten us too as a major problem that will be solved by shifting up the Earth. We humans basicly are hosts to spirits from these higher dimensions, if we manage to shift, the negative forces will be disconnected from us, and their Empire will fold up into a black-hole in wich they will have their own negative universe and wont be able to bother us anymore.
We humans are a 3-unity. our body, our reincarnating soul and our higher selfs. the higher self is the reincarnating soul that after been matured trough all its incarnations is living in all times helping itself to mature. That we exsists is proof that we won, eventho fur us in the now it still has to happen.

[ThePythonicCow]

your comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

Well, I'm not sure to whom you are responding here, but may I suggest that there is a difference between saying:



Your comparison doesn't make any sense to me.
and



Your comparison makes no sense whatsoever.
The second form is perhaps unnecessarily provocative, and perhaps not exactly true (heck, it might make sense to some folks, in some manner or other.)

[Nanoo Nanoo]

your comparison makes no sense whatsoever.


The truth is in there

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[D-Day]

your comparison makes no sense whatsoever.


The truth is in there

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To which truth are you referring?

Your "truth"... or THE TRUTH??

Something tells me there's likely to be consdierable difference between the two.

But that's just me.

[Sidney]

Something tells me they have already done so. They are just not visible to us because they live underground. And many of them walk among us but we dont know it because they look like us.

[S-L]

If you were observing and interacting with an ant colony would you eventually want to kill them all off so you can take over their nest ?


Humanity's sustained interaction with alien life is the biggest threshold our race can face. For this reason I thank you for starting this thread. These things are very much worth thinking about.

I'm concerned with your analogy. Rather than debate the merits of it, I would like to respond with an analogy of my own. I'm calling it the cattle analogy!

If you came to face to face with a cow, what would you do? Would you kill it? Or would you realize that this cow is a tremendous resource and try to maximize its usefulness to you? You may kill it down the road - if that's the most useful thing - but in the mean time, how much can you milk out of it?

Just because they have not wiped humanity out does not mean that they are here in our best interest. They are beings that exist in physical reality, just like you and me. They need resources to survive, just like all of us. Why kill the cattle when you can milk it first? Isn't this situation so very obvious? Earth and humanity are a tremendous resource. Our planet's lushness and biological diversity is not unique, but it's certainly not the rule in a universe of mostly barren worlds. Earth is a prize. They are here to exploit it, and they need our help in doing so. They want us to fall in line and work for them. This is the game that is afoot. The Allies of Humanity (http://www.alliesofhumanity.org) do a great job of detailing this.

The stakes are high. We only have the one planet. Humanity needs to be extremely cautious in regards to alien contact. We cannot just make excuses for them. We must remember that we are human beings, and as flawed as the human condition is on this planet, we must rally behind human freedom and sovereignty.

We are not ants!
We are not cattle!
They are abducting people all over the world.
We are human beings and we have every right to live in peace and freedom!

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Hello SL

is this an assumption or has this been confirmed ?

" it's certainly not the rule in a universe of mostly barren worlds "

and before we turn on the messenger , which is often the problem with starting threads ( not you SL ) what i want to achieve is generating thought outside the box.

There has been one or two comments that have touched on my theory or at least what im trying to understand my self. It is interesting that the ones furthest from my theory have gotten the most thank you's.

But i hope we can be polite to each other here and think , expand, understand.. perhaps evolve.

in the end my theories , ad D Day has pointed out are merely my own and that is a very true statement but i am not here to push an agenda , i am here to understand our thinking and where it leads us. This is what i find intriguing.

thank you '

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[DeDukshyn]

Hint:
Human Ego is the most self centered and arrogant sentience that exists in the Universe.
Me me me, m-me me me. Victim victim. me me oh my!

;)

I think this is what Nanoo is getting at. The human condition needs to be removed first before any real rational thought can take place, once removed, the arguments differ considerably than before.

My 2 cents ;)

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Hint:
Human Ego is the most self centered and arrogant sentience that exists in the Universe.
Me me me, m-me me me. Victim victim. me me oh my!

;)

I think this is what Nanoo is getting at. The human condition needs to be removed first before any real rational thought can take place, once removed, the arguments differ considerably than before.

My 2 cents ;)

This is not exactly my point but an un expected and excellent diversification ! nice ; 0 )

Yes in thinking the Ego is , imo , historically an energy centre that imbues scarcity and division. This is a reaction to societal dogmas. And very much imbedded in our general DNA matrix as a result. The DNA matrix , which is a re writeable storage centre , can be altered with deep thought, reflection, naval gazing etc.

I want to throw more spanners in the mix if i may.

here is an excerpt from a wiki page on ants.

i do love the information here in particular that they have been on this planet for some 100 million years , and create highly complex structured and symbiotic societies not only with their own kind but with many diverse surrounding entities.

Ants are social insects of the family Formicidae (pron.: /fɔrˈmɪsɨdiː/) and, along with the related wasps and bees, belong to the order Hymenoptera. Ants evolved from wasp-like ancestors in the mid-Cretaceous period between 110 and 130 million years ago and diversified after the rise of flowering plants. More than 12,500 out of an estimated total of 22,000 species have been classified.[3][4] They are easily identified by their elbowed antennae and a distinctive node-like structure that forms a slender waist.

Ants form colonies that range in size from a few dozen predatory individuals living in small natural cavities to highly organised colonies that may occupy large territories and consist of millions of individuals. Larger colonies consist mostly of sterile wingless females forming castes of "workers", "soldiers", or other specialised groups. Nearly all ant colonies also have some fertile males called "drones" and one or more fertile females called "queens". The colonies sometimes are described as superorganisms because the ants appear to operate as a unified entity, collectively working together to support the colony.[5]

Ants have colonised almost every landmass on Earth. The only places lacking indigenous ants are Antarctica and a few remote or inhospitable islands. Ants thrive in most ecosystems and may form 15–25% of the terrestrial animal biomass.[6] Their success in so many environments has been attributed to their social organisation and their ability to modify habitats, tap resources, and defend themselves. Their long co-evolution with other species has led to mimetic, commensal, parasitic, and mutualistic relationships


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[DeDukshyn]

I think your position may be simpler (and not less valid) than I expected. ;-)

If we think that "superior" aliens are coming to control us and take us over, then we must think that if we went to another planet and found simple ant-like creatures that we would take them over and control them because that's what space travelers do. Right? It sounds absurd completely when put like that. Although I think I'm holding on to that "human arrogance" theory, unless it does tie in ;)

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I think your position may be simpler (and not less valid) than I expected. ;-)

If we think that "superior" aliens are coming to control us and take us over, then we must think that if we went to another planet and found simple ant-like creatures that we would take them over and control them because that's what space travelers do. Right? It sounds absurd completely when put like that. Although I think I'm holding on to that "human arrogance" theory, unless it does tie in ;)

This is good thinking , can we expand on this ?

and this may be straying from my original question but what resources would an alien need thats perfected electromagnetic interdimentional flight a million years ago and has managed to sustain it without ever having come across us before ?

[DeDukshyn]

I think your position may be simpler (and not less valid) than I expected. ;-)

If we think that "superior" aliens are coming to control us and take us over, then we must think that if we went to another planet and found simple ant-like creatures that we would take them over and control them because that's what space travelers do. Right? It sounds absurd completely when put like that. Although I think I'm holding on to that "human arrogance" theory, unless it does tie in ;)

This is good thinking , can we expand on this ?

and this may be straying from my original question but what resources would an alien need thats perfected electromagnetic interdimentional flight a million years ago and has managed to sustain it without ever having come across us before ?

None, if they came a long distance. For a very short distance, it may be that the aforementioned isn't yet "perfected" and thus physical resources of some sort may be needed. But since if there were inhabitants close to us (solar system) we would know about them (or at least have another hospitable planet in our solar system for a physical alien, which we don't), so I think we can rule that out.

If a race came hundres or millions of light years, they'd obviously have the resource thing licked and nothin on earth would interest them except for maybe observation of the life itself.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I like that line of thinking , it makes sense to me even tho my sense can be flawed by my perspective. I am however trying to keep a middle ground in the OP.

A broader question is , If you had the capability to travel vast distances using high technology by our own standards , would you have also developed a sence of regenerative sustainable living ? Or is this highly advanced Space dweller a consuming locust ?

If we juxtapose this question over our current situation. What would a free and sustainable energy scource mean to our life and planet ?

Electromagnetism is perpetually being generated by our planet and is omnipresent and abundant AND in 400 million years has never stopped ...

how would that change our philosophy ? our outlook ?

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[Ron Mauer Sr]

If ants could be trained to mine gold, or if we could tax the crap out of their labor, or if we could somehow feed off their energy, particularly fear energy, then this analogy would make more sense [to me]. ;)

Edited after Paul's comment in post #20 :whistle:

Prodigal Son, I think you got it figured out. The reasons you have addressed are some of the reasons the dark side ETs are farming humans on planet Earth.

Assuming we chose to project ourselves into this situation, then why did we do it?
Perhaps I've heard the answer elsewhere.
It may be the same reason dogs love to stick their heads out of car windows and risk getting bugs in their eyes.

The reason: For the thrill of the ride.

Ron

[kersley]

It woud be more like bees,we farm honey from Bees that live in places we built for them so its easier for us to collect their "resources" AKA the Honey.They dont know they are being farmed..just an idea.

Very good, But what are we been farmed for? That's the question.. That really does make a lot of sense. And the elites are our slave masters taking orders from higher up??

[The Truth Is In There]

your comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

Well, I'm not sure to whom you are responding here, but may I suggest that there is a difference between saying:



Your comparison doesn't make any sense to me.
and



Your comparison makes no sense whatsoever.
The second form is perhaps unnecessarily provocative, and perhaps not exactly true (heck, it might make sense to some folks, in some manner or other.)

comparing humans to ants and ETs to humans makes no sense whatsoever, not only to me i should think. do i really have to list the differences?

- humans don't have a hive mind like ants, but ETs (greys for instance) do.
- humans and ants can easily live together on a planet without any problems and have done since ancient times. humans and ETs most likely can't, otherwise the ETs wouldn't have this need for secrecy (great invasions happen in secrecy!)
- there's this "minor" difference in size between humans and ants but hardly any between humans and ETs. i can have an ant colony in my garden and won't mind. an ET colony would be another matter.
- humans don't usually consume ants as food, but ETs do turn humans into sustenance, as anyone knows who has studied dulce and similar materials
- humans don't abduct ants
- humans don't create ant-human hybrids

i could go on but that should be enough to point out why i wrote "whatsoever".

from what the ETs (the greys, not the dracos/reptilians) do it's obvious that they want to introduce grey/human hybrids here on earth after the earth changes have reduced the human population to "manageable" levels. the only question is whether the intention is benevolent, meaning these hybrids can then be used as vehicles for souls to incarnate in and have experiences somewhat similar to human ones, just more varied, to creat some kind of co-evolution of both species, or whether the intentions are malevolent, meaning the remaining humans will be turned into a slave race for the hybrids and the future hybridized earth population will become a colony of the grey hive mind.

[Molope]

It woud be more like bees,we farm honey from Bees that live in places we built for them so its easier for us to collect their "resources" AKA the Honey.They dont know they are being farmed..just an idea.

Very good, But what are we been farmed for? That's the question.. That really does make a lot of sense. And the elites are our slave masters taking orders from higher up??

Thats the thing but just imagine you ask the man who collects the honey from those been pannels he really doesnt know where the Honey he farms is going to go or how is going to be used,he has some ideas of how It COUD be used but his job is just farming the bees.Its up to the one who gets the honey to give it use so the same applies for us.

[Watching from Cyprus]

Nice topic, and one of my favorit topics in general.
I spent quite some time (more than 20 yrs by now) thinking about this possibility of an alien takeover, reading all i could find, and trying to correlate all things I noticed.
Studying all of von Däniken's books, the work of R.C. Hoagland, sumerian tabletts, conspiracy theories and UFO-Alien contact stories and from all of this a very clear picture crystalises out.

Looking at our Earth we can see all kind of traces of past events, the way the continents are shaped and spread out, the difference in one side and the other like the pacific and atlantic side, the archeological finds, Myths, legends, historic or religious texts, all is related to each other and when taken together and put in the right place like when you solve a puzzle, the history can be understood.
There are several Alien Intelligences out there good and bad, and both types intervened at times in our history. But most ppl have no clue about our history or the history of the Earth.
I think the Terra Papers comes closesth to the real truth in telling this story about this history.
Basicly it comes down to this;
Earth is a remnant of a planet that was once in the orbit that now is occupied by asteroids between Mars and Jupiter. That planet was destroyed in a galactic war by the impact of a planet-sized space-dreadnaught, like the deathstar in StarWars.
The part that became Earth fell down to the orbit it now has. was re-seeded, and we humans were made to work the gold-mines. (the reason we only use 10% of our brain)
I dont think Aliens want to take over this planet, they see it as theirs and we are a kind of infestation.
On the other hand there is the interference of higher dimensions, beings from higer dimension see the forces that basicly threaten us too as a major problem that will be solved by shifting up the Earth. We humans basicly are hosts to spirits from these higher dimensions, if we manage to shift, the negative forces will be disconnected from us, and their Empire will fold up into a black-hole in wich they will have their own negative universe and wont be able to bother us anymore.
We humans are a 3-unity. our body, our reincarnating soul and our higher selfs. the higher self is the reincarnating soul that after been matured trough all its incarnations is living in all times helping itself to mature. That we exsists is proof that we won, eventho fur us in the now it still has to happen.

Thanks a bunch Observer; you saved me from writing practically same.. I am very pleased that i am not the only one in the knowing... This is how it is.

[Observer1964]

@ WFC

Thanks a bunch Observer; you saved me from writing practically same.. I am very pleased that i am not the only one in the knowing... This is how it is.Thank you to, I guess that makes us the only ones in this topic (sofar) who realy did do their homework. (And I was thinking i would get a flood of questions after I posted this.)

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Nice topic, and one of my favorit topics in general.
I spent quite some time (more than 20 yrs by now) thinking about this possibility of an alien takeover, reading all i could find, and trying to correlate all things I noticed.
Studying all of von Däniken's books, the work of R.C. Hoagland, sumerian tabletts, conspiracy theories and UFO-Alien contact stories and from all of this a very clear picture crystalises out.

Looking at our Earth we can see all kind of traces of past events, the way the continents are shaped and spread out, the difference in one side and the other like the pacific and atlantic side, the archeological finds, Myths, legends, historic or religious texts, all is related to each other and when taken together and put in the right place like when you solve a puzzle, the history can be understood.
There are several Alien Intelligences out there good and bad, and both types intervened at times in our history. But most ppl have no clue about our history or the history of the Earth.
I think the Terra Papers comes closesth to the real truth in telling this story about this history.
Basicly it comes down to this;
Earth is a remnant of a planet that was once in the orbit that now is occupied by asteroids between Mars and Jupiter. That planet was destroyed in a galactic war by the impact of a planet-sized space-dreadnaught, like the deathstar in StarWars.
The part that became Earth fell down to the orbit it now has. was re-seeded, and we humans were made to work the gold-mines. (the reason we only use 10% of our brain)
I dont think Aliens want to take over this planet, they see it as theirs and we are a kind of infestation.
On the other hand there is the interference of higher dimensions, beings from higer dimension see the forces that basicly threaten us too as a major problem that will be solved by shifting up the Earth. We humans basicly are hosts to spirits from these higher dimensions, if we manage to shift, the negative forces will be disconnected from us, and their Empire will fold up into a black-hole in wich they will have their own negative universe and wont be able to bother us anymore.
We humans are a 3-unity. our body, our reincarnating soul and our higher selfs. the higher self is the reincarnating soul that after been matured trough all its incarnations is living in all times helping itself to mature. That we exsists is proof that we won, eventho fur us in the now it still has to happen.



Thank you for this post , its taken a bit of thinking for me befoe i wanted to make comment on this.

Firstly i want to state that the " Title " of this thread and the " Question " on the first page are not part of the same context.

The Title is one thing the Question is another all together. The Question is un related however the Title would " lend " to being related.

i dont want to give away too much but this is a think piece and its designed to get us to think, which is good for us , this gets us to think and create new pathways in the mind and expand our ability to process diverse information.

Ok so back to the Post from Observer.

I like what was written as a summary so far. And from an analytical view point its quite accurate. But there are other view points to consider.

I believe the mind is governed by default. to the 10% suggested above. This makes sense to me. And only now having read this post something has made sense to me that is a huge penny dropping ritght into the middle of the pond in my mind . . .

My mind was unlocked at a young age . . . from 10% to about 15 % but a process of learning. Most recently in 2010 due to a commitment to meditation , learning and exploration my mind was further un locked to about 30% capacity. Its taken me a long time to piece it all together but it was done to me as an un locking of my crown gateway and my medulla in a very real and very effective ceremony of which i did not concent or even have an idea was going to happen.

But did the fact i did not give concent verbally as its done down here with a signature on a contract matter ? nope ! why ? because i now understand their thinking that my self preparation , study , meditation , changing my outlook , working towards peaceful lifestyle etc WAS the concent and WAS the contract by LIVING the changes outlined by my own free will.

why would they want to formalise a reward ? i made the effort and the reward was bestowed upon me. Mind you i had no idea ther was a reward in the first place...

I can tell you now i know we are in a learning facility and i made a commitment to learn and i ws rewarded by unlocking bigger parts of my brain. I can feel them work , i can feel parts of my brain operate like a new muscle thats a bit sore from lactic acid after a work out .. these have passed and were never really that bad but its true.

Am i a good ant ? in the ant farm being observed ? did i show promise to be peaceful and progressive in my will to want to help others ? Yes !

Some might think thats opressive .. but when i saw the bigger picture i got it .. i graduated in my schooling ...

And we all do this in one form or another , wehter its on here learning , or at college learning , or at work , home , bushwalking .. always learning , we are ! ( thank you yoda )

I used to think , " why are our minds limited ?" now i know why ... its like giving a Provisional Motorbike learner an 1100 turbo superbike to learn on . . . Instead of a 250 cc standard. While some may learn faster than others , thats true , most would have had negative effects being given so much to deal with before they formed a good riding ethic.

So to expand on this analogy , as the rider gets better and more skilful, as the rider commits to riding in a way that does not harm other innocents , then the rider is graduated to a 650 cc and is then observed how they handle this new power ! do they abuse it ? or do they just get there faster without harming others... Do they use this new power to help indeed enrich the lives of others by letting them see what its like to get on the back for a ride ? safely , with excitement !

I hope this was interesting

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[eaglespirit]

I used to think , " why are our minds limited ?" now i know why ... its like giving a Provisional Motorbike learner an 1100 turbo superbike to learn on . . . Instead of a 250 cc standard. While some may learn faster than others , thats true , most would have had negative effects being given so much to deal with before they formed a good riding ethic.

So to expand on this analogy , as the rider gets better and more skilful, as the rider commits to riding in a way that does not harm other innocents , then the rider is graduated to a 650 cc and is then observed how they handle this new power ! do they abuse it ? or do they just get there faster without harming others... Do they use this new power to help indeed enrich the lives of others by letting them see what its like to get on the back for a ride ? safely , with excitement !

I hope this was interesting

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...and coming from an 'experienced' super bike rider, I find that analogy right on, Nanoo Nanoo...and the choice becomes, well...no choice really.
The enrichment, while worked for with personal hard work and diligence...
is soooooooo enriching that it HAS TO BE shared openly to those with ANY HINT of interest and yearning.
Game changed, life changed, experience changed for those that follow suit on their "own" bike...enrichment grows by default on and on and on...

Back to Your First Thought and Title:

We are needed and used by them for their enrichment and entertainment...they are here 'over us' illegally and are now being 'extricated' in turbo mode...enough of the 'colony' has woken up and gotten to work and the 'higher colony' is in the mix now helping more than ever...30...60...90...days ahead and the "head" comes off of the 'title' aliens.

We are the ants becoming the, well... aliens of a higher/purer order and the perpetrator aliens are simply going to dissolve from our realm because they cannot handle the purity of it.

...end of my thought thread thoughts : )
and thanks for sharing ...All here that shared!

[ThePythonicCow]

comparing humans to ants and ETs to humans makes no sense whatsoever, not only to me i should think. do i really have to list the differences?
The existence of dissimilarities does not preclude any similarities in essence.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

comparing humans to ants and ETs to humans makes no sense whatsoever, not only to me i should think. do i really have to list the differences?
The existence of dissimilarities does not preclude any similarities in essence.

I am curious TTIIT , where was the original comparrison made ?

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[The Truth Is In There]

comparing humans to ants and ETs to humans makes no sense whatsoever, not only to me i should think. do i really have to list the differences?
The existence of dissimilarities does not preclude any similarities in essence.

I am curious TTIIT , where was the original comparrison made ?

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let's see...how about the opening post?


If you were observing and interacting with an ant colony would you eventually want to kill them all off so you can take over their nest ?

hmmm


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[Nanoo Nanoo]

comparing humans to ants and ETs to humans makes no sense whatsoever, not only to me i should think. do i really have to list the differences?
The existence of dissimilarities does not preclude any similarities in essence.

I am curious TTIIT , where was the original comparrison made ?

N

let's see...how about the opening post?


If you were observing and interacting with an ant colony would you eventually want to kill them all off so you can take over their nest ?

hmmm


N
N

I do not see a comparison , just a question.


N

[Observer1964]

I think the comparison should be more like;
If you find a goldmine and simple beings around it, how would you exploit the goldmine?
- You bring in heavy equipment with huge cost in manufacture and transport
- You genetically alter the simple beings and make them work the mine for you

[InCiDeR]

The day I see a tiny mushroom cloud raise from the ant colony I would definitely pay more attention to them.

Then when they start sending their tiny rockets into my living room, I would give them a warning that the area is off limits.

Sometimes I would bring my flashlights out during night, light them in different patterns, just to see how the ants react.

Maybe pick up some of the more interesting ones, to check them out, but of course bring them back alive later.

---

On a more serious note.

It would be much easier to alter the life source (dna) of the inhabitants, so "they" eventually become "us". No need for any takeover.

Meanwhile, before the dna change is complete, I would program and manipulate the inhabitants to fullfill my species wishes. I would do it in such a way so they didn't know about it. They would go on happy with their life and believe that everything they did, they did out of their own wishes and interest. Meaning, I would not interfere with free will... or would I?!

[Nanoo Nanoo]

The day I see a tiny mushroom cloud raise from the ant colony I would definitely pay more attention to them.

Then when they start sending their tiny rockets into my living room, I would give them a warning that the area is off limits.

Sometimes I would bring my flashlights out during night, light them in different patterns, just to see how the ants react.

Maybe pick up some of the more interesting ones, to check them out, but of course bring them back alive later.

---

On a more serious note.

It would be much easier to alter the life source (dna) of the inhabitants, so "they" eventually become "us". No need for any takeover.

Meanwhile, before the dna change is complete, I would program and manipulate the inhabitants to fullfill my species wishes. I would do it in such a way so they didn't know about it. They would go on happy with their life and believe that everything they did, they did out of their own wishes and interest. Meaning, I would not interfere with free will... or would I?!

Awesome post : 0 ) thank you



Naniu

[Kryztian]

Perhaps we are not an ant colony, we are a beehive, and someone really wants our honey.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Perhaps we are not an ant colony, we are a beehive, and someone really wants our honey.

For whatever it is worth, according to Barbara Marciniak (http://www.amazon.com/Bringers-Dawn-Pleiadians-Barbara-Marciniak/dp/093968098X/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367185362&sr=1-3&keywords=barbara+marciniak), they want access to something hidden in our DNA by the original planners, 12 keys to the living library.

If I remember correctly, with keys to the living library, their ability to dominate and control would be expanded, and limits on their inter dimensional travel would be somewhat reduced.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

The day I see a tiny mushroom cloud raise from the ant colony I would definitely pay more attention to them.

Then when they start sending their tiny rockets into my living room, I would give them a warning that the area is off limits.

Sometimes I would bring my flashlights out during night, light them in different patterns, just to see how the ants react.

Maybe pick up some of the more interesting ones, to check them out, but of course bring them back alive later.

---

On a more serious note.

It would be much easier to alter the life source (dna) of the inhabitants, so "they" eventually become "us". No need for any takeover.

Meanwhile, before the dna change is complete, I would program and manipulate the inhabitants to fullfill my species wishes. I would do it in such a way so they didn't know about it. They would go on happy with their life and believe that everything they did, they did out of their own wishes and interest. Meaning, I would not interfere with free will... or would I?!

They are sooo smart, ever seen this?

EkzHDH7mg-E

[InCiDeR]

The day I see a tiny mushroom cloud raise from the ant colony I would definitely pay more attention to them.

Then when they start sending their tiny rockets into my living room, I would give them a warning that the area is off limits.

Sometimes I would bring my flashlights out during night, light them in different patterns, just to see how the ants react.

Maybe pick up some of the more interesting ones, to check them out, but of course bring them back alive later.

---

On a more serious note.

It would be much easier to alter the life source (dna) of the inhabitants, so "they" eventually become "us". No need for any takeover.

Meanwhile, before the dna change is complete, I would program and manipulate the inhabitants to fullfill my species wishes. I would do it in such a way so they didn't know about it. They would go on happy with their life and believe that everything they did, they did out of their own wishes and interest. Meaning, I would not interfere with free will... or would I?!

They are sooo smart, ever seen this?

EkzHDH7mg-E

Yes! It is truly amazing!

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Perhaps we are not an ant colony, we are a beehive, and someone really wants our honey.

For whatever it is worth, according to Barbara Marciniak (http://www.amazon.com/Bringers-Dawn-Pleiadians-Barbara-Marciniak/dp/093968098X/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367185362&sr=1-3&keywords=barbara+marciniak), they want access to something hidden in our DNA by the original planners, 12 keys to the living library.

If I remember correctly, with keys to the living library, their ability to dominate and control would be expanded, and limits on their inter dimensional travel would be somewhat reduced.

I might be missing something but how does that make sence ? They want something in our DNA ?

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I think meat jackets answer was the closest to answering my question. The Heading actually has nothing to do with the question. However it lent to the question an angle which i wanted to hear an answer ie. If you were an alien , and to an ant we are mind you , would you study life here for many years understnding it etc etc only to turn around and exterminate the entire inhabitants of the place ?

What my OP was meant to show is the obsurdity of the fear of aliens and their "agendas", i dont know all the answers , not many of us do but i do know we are speculating our selves into a corner.

It was also interesting how the thread took a type of chinese whisper effect with comments completely un related to the OP however obviously a strain of thought embedded changed how the question looked to the reader based on perhaps dogmatic programming.

I also noticed that if one is not careful they may end up the receiver of someones anger mostly un related.

these are just my opinions and my interest in observations of human behaviour, which i still find somewhat foreign. I say this not as an attempt to anger some but as an honest observation. I often giggle and wonder at human behaviour. For instance , why does the conductor of a symphony walk out during the applause to a side door , wait a few seconds and then walks back in ? this absolutely has me in stiches !


Another one thats always perplexed me is why do humans go to a bar , drink to be merry and end up wanting to hit each other ? Why do they fight against one another ?

N

[Nanoo Nanoo]

The day I see a tiny mushroom cloud raise from the ant colony I would definitely pay more attention to them.

Then when they start sending their tiny rockets into my living room, I would give them a warning that the area is off limits.

Sometimes I would bring my flashlights out during night, light them in different patterns, just to see how the ants react.

Maybe pick up some of the more interesting ones, to check them out, but of course bring them back alive later.

---

On a more serious note.

It would be much easier to alter the life source (dna) of the inhabitants, so "they" eventually become "us". No need for any takeover.

Meanwhile, before the dna change is complete, I would program and manipulate the inhabitants to fullfill my species wishes. I would do it in such a way so they didn't know about it. They would go on happy with their life and believe that everything they did, they did out of their own wishes and interest. Meaning, I would not interfere with free will... or would I?!

Awesome post : 0 ) thank you



Naniu

I have given this one much thought ...


There are a lot of opinions. an opinion of mine that makes sense to me is

and is covered in this answer from insider is their observation of us , our ( militarily speaking ) genocidal tendancies towards each other of the same race even finally achieving atmic power on the verge of manned space flight .. this needed to be thwarted as such a race cannot be a good thing out there..

the maniacal exploits of a few that do not represent the majority may indeed attract a very negative responce from out there. However things are surely being done to change time lines by changing negative behaviour through genetical engineering.

I know this is true and in full swing.

We dont have a good idea really of our past history as its been hidden from us and this is a pitty ... if we had a better idea we would probably undrstand and have less fear towards agendas and time lines.

I think if we had a birds eye view we would see the plan.. id like a better vie and understanding of our past as well..


I read somewhere about the Chinese being very similar to aincient aiens .. and this is true and something i have always believed. they are ancient people and very spiritual.

Hmm


N

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Perhaps we are not an ant colony, we are a beehive, and someone really wants our honey.

For whatever it is worth, according to Barbara Marciniak (http://www.amazon.com/Bringers-Dawn-Pleiadians-Barbara-Marciniak/dp/093968098X/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367185362&sr=1-3&keywords=barbara+marciniak), they want access to something hidden in our DNA by the original planners, 12 keys to the living library.

If I remember correctly, with keys to the living library, their ability to dominate and control would be expanded, and limits on their inter dimensional travel would be somewhat reduced.

I might be missing something but how does that make sence ? They want something in our DNA ?

If you would like to do the research, you can watch this on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsvN1rUWoz8).

Of course I do not endorse or believe anything, but I do have strong suspicions. ;)

[donk]

There's a difference between FEARING the agenda and trying to bring it to light. Exposing something that SOME may fear, does NOT make you a fear monger.

Information is power. With power, comes responsibility.

Even "benevolence"--good intent in the mind of the acter, if kept in the dark, is manipulating the will (and of course, "DARK")...you are right Nanoo, we shouldn't fear the dark. Though I think it is important to recognize, explore--and to me, to bring to light.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Perhaps we are not an ant colony, we are a beehive, and someone really wants our honey.

For whatever it is worth, according to Barbara Marciniak (http://www.amazon.com/Bringers-Dawn-Pleiadians-Barbara-Marciniak/dp/093968098X/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367185362&sr=1-3&keywords=barbara+marciniak), they want access to something hidden in our DNA by the original planners, 12 keys to the living library.

If I remember correctly, with keys to the living library, their ability to dominate and control would be expanded, and limits on their inter dimensional travel would be somewhat reduced.

I might be missing something but how does that make sence ? They want something in our DNA ?

If you would like to do the research, you can watch this on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsvN1rUWoz8).

Of course I do not endorse or believe anything, but I do have strong suspicions. ;)

Thank you Ron


She has an interesting take and perhaps similar to mine but different in the makeup of facts.

The Council which over sees this planet are Aincient Reptilian species. I dont think they represent Pleades per se ... However i do know they are not malevolent. They are caring however the affairs down here and our plight is one we have all concented to in their eyes. Since the leaving of genetic scientists 30k years ago we have been left to our own devices as an observation.

What has happened is we are being left to mutate and create our own society ruled by pure human societies. The ruling elite share less with reptilian species than we do. They are the purest human strands / families hence why they MUST breed amongst them selves. They too are a genetical breed of humanoids which were given a few more insights and texts to develop their abilities and have " hoarded " this information to keep an advantage which is in keeping with their original genetical make up.

From what i know of certain reptilian races is they are slightly less volatile and more mertiocrically based within their society. In my experiences of learning who i am and where i came from i find that my " nature " is to be passive in outlook , sharing in information to heal and grow with my fellow species and man and i have a deep concern for those who do not have enough to get by however i too understand not to interfere with peoples karmic lessons and growth.

As Donk stated , we are wanting to un lock the truth to discover. I have been doing this for almost 40 years and i have some good insoght based not on theories only but actual long term experinces. These lend to me a good footing into who we are and i hope to share this information to you all freely to help you make your own decisions. Its not in my mandate to push anything on anybodies will as this is strictly forbidden.

I agree with Donk in that we need to understand and this post is not directed to you Ron , i see you have a broad outlook and consider all , this is a good example.

I personally cannot subscribe to the many alieses of conspiracy of our Alien families wanting to harm us. They do care , not all , but many do, most are completely indifferent.

And it is not widely understood down here that " Leaving us be " and " Not stepping in as saviours " is actually a sign of great respect.

I do know one thing , if the problems hit a tipping point there will be an intervention but not as we would immagine it ... they work on levels of intelligence some of us couldnt even immagine. Ways of thwarting clandestine affairs against us in the most passive and covert ways we wouldnt even realise its them. They do not seek reward or recognition. Positive outcomes are the reward in their society.

Meritocracy

Naniu

[InCiDeR]

The day I see a tiny mushroom cloud raise from the ant colony I would definitely pay more attention to them.

Then when they start sending their tiny rockets into my living room, I would give them a warning that the area is off limits.

Sometimes I would bring my flashlights out during night, light them in different patterns, just to see how the ants react.

Maybe pick up some of the more interesting ones, to check them out, but of course bring them back alive later.

---

On a more serious note.

It would be much easier to alter the life source (dna) of the inhabitants, so "they" eventually become "us". No need for any takeover.

Meanwhile, before the dna change is complete, I would program and manipulate the inhabitants to fullfill my species wishes. I would do it in such a way so they didn't know about it. They would go on happy with their life and believe that everything they did, they did out of their own wishes and interest. Meaning, I would not interfere with free will... or would I?!

Awesome post : 0 ) thank you



Naniu

I have given this one much thought ...


There are a lot of opinions. an opinion of mine that makes sense to me is

and is covered in this answer from insider is their observation of us , our ( militarily speaking ) genocidal tendancies towards each other of the same race even finally achieving atmic power on the verge of manned space flight .. this needed to be thwarted as such a race cannot be a good thing out there..

the maniacal exploits of a few that do not represent the majority may indeed attract a very negative responce from out there. However things are surely being done to change time lines by changing negative behaviour through genetical engineering.

I know this is true and in full swing.

We dont have a good idea really of our past history as its been hidden from us and this is a pitty ... if we had a better idea we would probably undrstand and have less fear towards agendas and time lines.

I think if we had a birds eye view we would see the plan.. id like a better vie and understanding of our past as well..


I read somewhere about the Chinese being very similar to aincient aiens .. and this is true and something i have always believed. they are ancient people and very spiritual.

Hmm


N

I agree, Nanoo Nanoo, I wish we could have access to our own history as well. I believe that would solve many of our questions and also release us from fear.

Myself been pondering about my last sentence lately. What is free will? If we as a race honestly feel that everything we do is an expression of our free will.
But if an alien race manipulated our species in a way so we won't discover that they did. Can we still say that our free will is not interfered with and that we actually have a free will?

I honestly have no good answer to that!

What about Law of attraction when it comes to Aliens? I mean, there's maybe a reason why some Aliens visiting Earth seems to be malevolent, we aren't exactly a peaceful species.

But still, as you say donk and Nanoo Nanoo, we shouldn't fear darkness. Without darkness we wouldn't understand light. They define each other.

All is present consciousness, even the memories and the shadows following them. They are interconnected and interdependent. Yin and Yang, darkness nourish light and light nourish darkness. They transform each other and give birth to everything. Darkness within darkness, the answer to everything...

[Nanoo Nanoo]

The day I see a tiny mushroom cloud raise from the ant colony I would definitely pay more attention to them.

Then when they start sending their tiny rockets into my living room, I would give them a warning that the area is off limits.

Sometimes I would bring my flashlights out during night, light them in different patterns, just to see how the ants react.

Maybe pick up some of the more interesting ones, to check them out, but of course bring them back alive later.

---

On a more serious note.

It would be much easier to alter the life source (dna) of the inhabitants, so "they" eventually become "us". No need for any takeover.

Meanwhile, before the dna change is complete, I would program and manipulate the inhabitants to fullfill my species wishes. I would do it in such a way so they didn't know about it. They would go on happy with their life and believe that everything they did, they did out of their own wishes and interest. Meaning, I would not interfere with free will... or would I?!

Awesome post : 0 ) thank you



Naniu

I have given this one much thought ...


There are a lot of opinions. an opinion of mine that makes sense to me is

and is covered in this answer from insider is their observation of us , our ( militarily speaking ) genocidal tendancies towards each other of the same race even finally achieving atmic power on the verge of manned space flight .. this needed to be thwarted as such a race cannot be a good thing out there..

the maniacal exploits of a few that do not represent the majority may indeed attract a very negative responce from out there. However things are surely being done to change time lines by changing negative behaviour through genetical engineering.

I know this is true and in full swing.

We dont have a good idea really of our past history as its been hidden from us and this is a pitty ... if we had a better idea we would probably undrstand and have less fear towards agendas and time lines.

I think if we had a birds eye view we would see the plan.. id like a better vie and understanding of our past as well..


I read somewhere about the Chinese being very similar to aincient aiens .. and this is true and something i have always believed. they are ancient people and very spiritual.

Hmm


N

I agree, Nanoo Nanoo, I wish we could have access to our own history as well. I believe that would solve many of our questions and also release us from fear.

Myself been pondering about my last sentence lately. What is free will? If we as a race honestly feel that everything we do is an expression of our free will.
But if an alien race manipulated our species in a way so we won't discover that they did. Can we still say that our free will is not interfered with and that we actually have a free will?

I honestly have no good answer to that!

What about Law of attraction when it comes to Aliens? I mean, there's maybe a reason why some Aliens visiting Earth seems to be malevolent, we aren't exactly a peaceful species.

But still, as you say donk and Nanoo Nanoo, we shouldn't fear darkness. Without darkness we wouldn't understand light. They define each other.

All is present consciousness, even the memories and the shadows following them. They are interconnected and interdependent. Yin and Yang, darkness nourish light and light nourish darkness. They transform each other and give birth to everything. Darkness within darkness, the answer to everything...



Excellent !


expanding on Free Will , it is a cosmic law. Its a big one and one that is not broken lightly.

we have to consider WHO it is thats breaking our free will , not Aliens i can assure you but rather our own ruling elitr which WE have allowed to get to where they are without much opposition. They are more responsible for hiding the facts of our past so that we cannot evolve. And may i state this , the " Faction " of Anunaki scientists that bred our races many moons ago were not in keeping with the greater Anunaki race in general indeed they were left here because they went against their higher council.

They created us to serve them , but they are a very small number and do not represent the Anunaki race as they are today. Only the poorest strands of their society has been left in our high society and its not a good example to follow of alien genetics or intervention.

So what i have discovered is if you make the effort ot re connect with your star family they await you to make contact ( just as Greer states, i know this to be true ) and then you may start to learn from the great libraries of the cosmos and from your star family.

But its not an easy leap , ts a meritocracy , meaning you do not get to go up unless you climb the steps to knowledge and then eventually wisdom.


N

[nomadguy]

43id_NRajDo
I think it might actually be more like this. Humans on Earth are more like apples on the apple tree. We are what is being harvested and/or perhaps farmed. It could be for our DNA, or perhaps for our energy. Not unlike this video, where ants farm aphids to harvest the nectar they produce. To use that as an analogy our "nectar" is our energy.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

43id_NRajDo
I think it might actually be more like this. Humans on Earth are more like apples on the apple tree. We are what is being harvested and/or perhaps farmed. It could be for our DNA, or perhaps for our energy. Not unlike this video, where ants farm aphids to harvest the nectar they produce. To use that as an analogy our "nectar" is our energy.

I think its a good example of sibyotics at work .. these afids and ants have been working together for many thousands of years , they understand they have a relationship.

So a question if i may. There seems to be a lot of talk about harvesting us for our DNA but i still dont get it .. If they want some DNA they can grab someone , take a blood sample and off they go .. no need to return , they have a sample. They take the DNA .. how do they take our DNA ? ive been interacted with many dozens of times and i still have allmy DNA in tack , well im still alive ..

how do they do this DNA harvesting exactly ? can anybody show me what this means exactly ?

If you are going to take someones Stem Sells then thats different. Has anybody heard of Alien abductions where they take stem cells ?

I have heard of sperm and egg samples.

N

[Ron Mauer Sr]

So a question if i may. There seems to be a lot of talk about harvesting us for our DNA but i still dont get it .. If they want some DNA they can grab someone , take a blood sample and off they go .. no need to return , they have a sample. They take the DNA .. how do they take our DNA ? ive been interacted with many dozens of times and i still have allmy DNA in tack , well im still alive ..

how do they do this DNA harvesting exactly ? can anybody show me what this means exactly ?

N

According to Barbara Marciniak (http://www.amazon.com/Bringers-Dawn-Pleiadians-Barbara-Marciniak/dp/093968098X/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367185362&sr=1-3&keywords=barbara+marciniak) (ref: free listen on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iuRNcRZemE)), it is about *decoding* specific information *hidden* within the human DNA and other places. The Reptilians know it is there, but they do not know how to decode it. Humans are the key to unlocking the info. If the Reptilians could decode this hidden information, limits placed on their activities to dominate and control would be reduced.

As always, you decide.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

So a question if i may. There seems to be a lot of talk about harvesting us for our DNA but i still dont get it .. If they want some DNA they can grab someone , take a blood sample and off they go .. no need to return , they have a sample. They take the DNA .. how do they take our DNA ? ive been interacted with many dozens of times and i still have allmy DNA in tack , well im still alive ..

how do they do this DNA harvesting exactly ? can anybody show me what this means exactly ?

N

According to Barbara Marciniak (http://www.amazon.com/Bringers-Dawn-Pleiadians-Barbara-Marciniak/dp/093968098X/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367185362&sr=1-3&keywords=barbara+marciniak) (ref: free listen on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iuRNcRZemE)), it is about *decoding* specific information *hidden* within the human DNA and other places. The Reptilians know it is there, but they do not know how to decode it. Humans are the key to unlocking the info. If the Reptilians could decode this hidden information, limits placed on their activities to dominate and control would be reduced.

As always, you decide.

Ok that clarifies it for me.

I do not believe this is happening. The document , to me , leverages fear as a non logical argument thats relatively impossible to verify and i would not personally invest any time or emotion into its information.

Thank you Ron for the clarification.

N

[Nanoo Nanoo]

So a question if i may. There seems to be a lot of talk about harvesting us for our DNA but i still dont get it .. If they want some DNA they can grab someone , take a blood sample and off they go .. no need to return , they have a sample. They take the DNA .. how do they take our DNA ? ive been interacted with many dozens of times and i still have allmy DNA in tack , well im still alive ..

how do they do this DNA harvesting exactly ? can anybody show me what this means exactly ?

N

According to Barbara Marciniak (http://www.amazon.com/Bringers-Dawn-Pleiadians-Barbara-Marciniak/dp/093968098X/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367185362&sr=1-3&keywords=barbara+marciniak) (ref: free listen on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iuRNcRZemE)), it is about *decoding* specific information *hidden* within the human DNA and other places. The Reptilians know it is there, but they do not know how to decode it. Humans are the key to unlocking the info. If the Reptilians could decode this hidden information, limits placed on their activities to dominate and control would be reduced.

As always, you decide.

Ok that clarifies it for me.

I do not believe this is happening. The document , to me , leverages fear as a non logical argument thats relatively impossible to verify and i would not personally invest any time or emotion into its information.

Thank you Ron for the clarification.

N

Just to qualify my my opinion.

Firstly what purpose is there collecting DNA that they apparently cannot decode ? DO they keep collecting it in the hope it will eventually decode its self ? Highly advanced beings with knowledge thousands of years more advanced than us in Genetics cannot decode our DNA ? ummm Yet somehow we have a spcial DNA that nobody else in the universe has ? Why do we have it if we cannot use it ? ( not withstanding the truth that we dont know how to use all our abilities )

The more i dig into this theory the less believeable it is to me. If i and others alike can develop extra sensoty abilities with very limited rescources and education im sure it would be a breeze for any civilisation even only 50 years more advanced than us to open it up and understand it back to front.

However if there is an angle , which is alays possible, i havent thought of then please by all means share it.

Tnak you

N
N

[Ron Mauer Sr]

So a question if i may. There seems to be a lot of talk about harvesting us for our DNA but i still dont get it .. If they want some DNA they can grab someone , take a blood sample and off they go .. no need to return , they have a sample. They take the DNA .. how do they take our DNA ? ive been interacted with many dozens of times and i still have allmy DNA in tack , well im still alive ..

how do they do this DNA harvesting exactly ? can anybody show me what this means exactly ?

N

According to Barbara Marciniak (http://www.amazon.com/Bringers-Dawn-Pleiadians-Barbara-Marciniak/dp/093968098X/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367185362&sr=1-3&keywords=barbara+marciniak) (ref: free listen on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iuRNcRZemE)), it is about *decoding* specific information *hidden* within the human DNA and other places. The Reptilians know it is there, but they do not know how to decode it. Humans are the key to unlocking the info. If the Reptilians could decode this hidden information, limits placed on their activities to dominate and control would be reduced.

As always, you decide.

Ok that clarifies it for me.

I do not believe this is happening. The document , to me , leverages fear as a non logical argument thats relatively impossible to verify and i would not personally invest any time or emotion into its information.

Thank you Ron for the clarification.

N

Just to qualify my my opinion.

Firstly what purpose is there collecting DNA that they apparently cannot decode ? DO they keep collecting it in the hope it will eventually decode its self ? Highly advanced beings with knowledge thousands of years more advanced than us in Genetics cannot decode our DNA ? ummm Yet somehow we have a spcial DNA that nobody else in the universe has ? Why do we have it if we cannot use it ? ( not withstanding the truth that we dont know how to use all our abilities )

The more i dig into this theory the less believeable it is to me. If i and others alike can develop extra sensoty abilities with very limited rescources and education im sure it would be a breeze for any civilisation even only 50 years more advanced than us to open it up and understand it back to front.

However if there is an angle , which is alays possible, i havent thought of then please by all means share it.

Tnak you

N
N

First I need to say that I am not defending any other's view point. I'm just thinkin' out of the box. Sometimes it is easier to pretend we are writing a science fiction story to examine new ideas, instead of accepting what is or what is not true or what can be verified. It is obvious to me that only a tiny part of reality can be verified. When we do find out more about what is really going on, I expect it to be even more strange than what we can now imagine. So let's play with some of the rumors going round and create an evolving story. Change it if you like. Or write your own.

Perhaps the DNA and other material is being harvested to experiment with creating a hybrid ET/human race. Why might they do that? According to some stories, Reptilians cannot stay in this reality (this frequency band) for an extended time. They are working on a hybrid who can stay here. The Reptilians think this planet belongs to them, and humans are simply here to be managed for harvest, as does a farmer with the animals he tends. What is being harvested? One of the harvested items is the electromagnetic energy of fear. Just as we would pick a carrot from the garden to eat, the Reptilians (some, not all) feed on the energy of fear. Not nice.

The original planners of this local universe, a free will zone, are far more advanced than the dark team warrior race of Reptilians, who are far more intelligent than most (maybe all) humans. So it is not a big stretch of the imagination for the original planners to put some restrictions on life forms, a quarantine if you will, to prevent the fear based energies so prevalent in this free will zone from infecting other places, perhaps other universes. Perhaps when we learn how to reduce or eliminate fear and live more in the love and respect vibration, the keys to the living library will be accessible to us, the junk DNA will again be activated creating a 12 strand DNA, giving us the knowledge we need and take our place exploring the stars.

My gut feeling is that education and intuition can be very valuable, but not sufficient to unlock the keys to the living library created by highly advanced beings who want to keep some secrets locked until humans become sufficiently evolved to use the secrets wisely.

From a higher frequency perspective, we are are all Prime Creator on Prime Creators journey of self discovery. It's never about the destination, it is all about the journey.

Feel free to jump in, tear up any pages of the story and contribute your own ideas.

Creators we are, so why not create a story that feels good?

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Perhaps the DNA and other material is being harvested to experiment with creating a hybrid ET/human race. Why might they do that? According to some stories, Reptilians cannot stay in this reality (this frequency band) for an extended time. They are working on a hybrid who can stay here. The Reptilians think this planet belongs to them, and humans are simply here to be managed for harvest, as does a farmer with the animals he tends


Its their planet , yet its not sutable to them ? Their frequency band ? what is their frequency band and how does it compare to ours ?


If i were an alien hovering out there id be interested in the following

Why do we drive cars ?
how do we avoid so many collisions without any shields or electromagnetic guidance system ?
why do we work for governments that are trying to exterminate us ? ( thats abig one )
how do i get a date with an earth woman ? and would she see past my green scaily skin ?
why do earth doctors only give treatments that help with symptoms not cures ?
why does a composer walk off while peole are hitting their hands together and then come back just a few moments later ? are they thirsty ? and if so why dont they carry a bottle of h20 on stage with them ?
why do fe males wear highly uncomfortable shoes that seem to torture them ?
why do they have to earn the right to have housing and energy ?
whats the deal with the TV show " Bridezilla " ? is it a show about courage ?
why do the fe male species always clean up after the male species ? do the male species not know how to use a cleaning product ?
why does leaving a seat in the up right position cause much distress to the fe maile counterpart? is she not capable of returning the seat to the down position ?
do humans not realise its faster to get to work in an air craft or hover vehicle ?
if there is free and abundant energy on the planet ( as there is in everty other part of the universe ) why dont they use it ?


N

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Oh i forgot to add

Why do you receive complimentary peanuts on flights ?
Is there a nutrient in the peanut that helps with motion sickness ?
why do Australian people drink so much alcohol ?
Why do pubs close at midnight in London and 3 am everywhere else ?





N

[Observer1964]

I just watched a remarkable youtube. It is a interview with a reptilian. Now I did not expect anything else than just fantasy stuff but I must say I am quite suprised with how wel it fits other stuff I read and saw over the years, exept it is from their [reptilian] point of view.

And they want to make Earth a colony and remove free will, but they see it as good for the planet, anyway... for whom is interested..
rVmfyTVaoP4

[Observer1964]

in the video a thing called the confederation of planets is mentionend, I believe this is not the same as the Galactic federation, and Salusa from Sirius [the Dog-Star] I believe is a fraud, Sirius is where Enki and Enlil are from, where Anu reigns and they are allied to the Orion Empire [Reptilian] So I am not saying that the chaneler is lying, I think he is being misled.
The Confederation of planets i've read about in another contact case;
UFO CONTACT FROM PLANET KOLDAS


This account of Valdar and the Confederation of Planets may be read as an imaginative story created by the narrator and the author if preferred. As such it may add to the literature about extraterrestrial visitors at the dawn of the space age on Earth. But if the story is taken at face value, then it must create problems for the reader.
http://www.galactic.no/rune/kold1.html
Note that Valdar also ends with ar...

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I liked the video Observer . I dont know what the channel is they were talking through or if it was well educated speak from humans but its pretty accurate in my opinion.

Its so obvious to me , and from what i know and whom and what i have been connected with and in communication for many years. " Their " agenda is merely to cradle us through a dificult time.. of course they dont want us to get out of hand and harm them .. they are also faced with the problem of spoiling our lessons .. its not so easy to march in and change stuff around to suit peace.. without the proper lessons we will not truly appreciate respectful negotiatins as an only option.

humans are the most violent species in this quadrant. this is why we are mostly under quarantine and well monitored. its a big space out there .. can you imagine billions of beings and civilisations having well established ways of living and gtting along .. and we here , who have bnever even met any aliens just think they are all evil .. because they share reptilian linneage .. this is an absolutely childish mind set .. actually sorry to insult the child .. they have a better grip on reality than the brain washed out there.

do not judge that which you do not understand , just observe...

N
N

[Flash]

So a question if i may. There seems to be a lot of talk about harvesting us for our DNA but i still dont get it .. If they want some DNA they can grab someone , take a blood sample and off they go .. no need to return , they have a sample. They take the DNA .. how do they take our DNA ? ive been interacted with many dozens of times and i still have allmy DNA in tack , well im still alive ..

how do they do this DNA harvesting exactly ? can anybody show me what this means exactly ?

N

According to Barbara Marciniak (http://www.amazon.com/Bringers-Dawn-Pleiadians-Barbara-Marciniak/dp/093968098X/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367185362&sr=1-3&keywords=barbara+marciniak) (ref: free listen on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iuRNcRZemE)), it is about *decoding* specific information *hidden* within the human DNA and other places. The Reptilians know it is there, but they do not know how to decode it. Humans are the key to unlocking the info. If the Reptilians could decode this hidden information, limits placed on their activities to dominate and control would be reduced.

As always, you decide.

Ok that clarifies it for me.

I do not believe this is happening. The document , to me , leverages fear as a non logical argument thats relatively impossible to verify and i would not personally invest any time or emotion into its information.

Thank you Ron for the clarification.

N

Just to qualify my my opinion.

Firstly what purpose is there collecting DNA that they apparently cannot decode ? DO they keep collecting it in the hope it will eventually decode its self ? Highly advanced beings with knowledge thousands of years more advanced than us in Genetics cannot decode our DNA ? ummm Yet somehow we have a spcial DNA that nobody else in the universe has ? Why do we have it if we cannot use it ? ( not withstanding the truth that we dont know how to use all our abilities )

The more i dig into this theory the less believeable it is to me. If i and others alike can develop extra sensoty abilities with very limited rescources and education im sure it would be a breeze for any civilisation even only 50 years more advanced than us to open it up and understand it back to front.

However if there is an angle , which is alays possible, i havent thought of then please by all means share it.

Tnak you

N
N

First I need to say that I am not defending any other's view point. I'm just thinkin' out of the box. Sometimes it is easier to pretend we are writing a science fiction story to examine new ideas, instead of accepting what is or what is not true or what can be verified. It is obvious to me that only a tiny part of reality can be verified. When we do find out more about what is really going on, I expect it to be even more strange than what we can now imagine. So let's play with some of the rumors going round and create an evolving story. Change it if you like. Or write your own.

Perhaps the DNA and other material is being harvested to experiment with creating a hybrid ET/human race. Why might they do that? According to some stories, Reptilians cannot stay in this reality (this frequency band) for an extended time. They are working on a hybrid who can stay here. The Reptilians think this planet belongs to them, and humans are simply here to be managed for harvest, as does a farmer with the animals he tends. What is being harvested? One of the harvested items is the electromagnetic energy of fear. Just as we would pick a carrot from the garden to eat, the Reptilians (some, not all) feed on the energy of fear. Not nice.

The original planners of this local universe, a free will zone, are far more advanced than the dark team warrior race of Reptilians, who are far more intelligent than most (maybe all) humans. So it is not a big stretch of the imagination for the original planners to put some restrictions on life forms, a quarantine if you will, to prevent the fear based energies so prevalent in this free will zone from infecting other places, perhaps other universes. Perhaps when we learn how to reduce or eliminate fear and live more in the love and respect vibration, the keys to the living library will be accessible to us, the junk DNA will again be activated creating a 12 strand DNA, giving us the knowledge we need and take our place exploring the stars.

My gut feeling is that education and intuition can be very valuable, but not sufficient to unlock the keys to the living library created by highly advanced beings who want to keep some secrets locked until humans become sufficiently evolved to use the secrets wisely.

From a higher frequency perspective, we are are all Prime Creator on Prime Creators journey of self discovery. It's never about the destination, it is all about the journey.

Feel free to jump in, tear up any pages of the story and contribute your own ideas.

Creators we are, so why not create a story that feels good?

You are quite right in my opinion, rmauers (your avatar name is difficult for me). I would add to your comments the soul components. Reptilians, Mantids and Great Whites (the real greys), etc need our genetic to create hybrids that can remain in this dimension, this is true. With the reptilian and Mantid or great White (grey) soul in the hybrid body containers. It seems that all the negatives are looking for this and that humans are a key.

The target would be to have reptilians soul incarnate in this dimension, on this planet. Probably the same for Mantids or the real Greys (not the automatons). For which purpose? For perfect control of the planet, for the joy of conquest, for being able to spread to other worlds that are presently innaccessible for them.

For some, but not all, the target maybe further evolution, from 3rd graders to fifth graders for example.

They need to decode the genetic container (the human body) in order to build bodies that are able to contain the specific vibration of their souls without disintegrating the body and its brain.

The question, as humans, is do we want to be used and become still more complete slaves, without any possibility of freedom and evolution, or do we want to help them accomplishing evolutionary positions. If it is the latter, very specific and stringent conditions have to be imposed on the reptilian mindset. I am not sure, as a race, that we should even get into any kind of agreement of the sort, but our governments seem to have done so.

I most probably would not. As you can see, the love component is practically missing from it all.

[eric charles]

Man , we love to argue and bicker over trivial matters here .

1.Do Extraterrestrials exist , of course they do . I've never seen one , but I saw UFO in the deep Forest in Southern Quebec while at hunt camp one night .
2.Are they controlling the planet , its plausible , but I see no evidence of it . All I see is human beings from all governments , municipal, regional , provincial and Federal controlling me and restricting my freedoms .
3. Everyones opinion is null and void , including mine , until we know the full truth .
Unless there is real evidence to examine and question, debate , I dont see why all the bickering .
Lets settle our score with the Human beings in charge that are controlling us and know about , instead of bickering about nonsensical topics that have been picked out from the far reaches of oblivion .

[Flash]

There is no bickering here Eric that I see.

What I see is rather an exchange of information. Nothing more. Based of what we have heard, seen or lived, depending on each one of us. The non consequential topics might be reall consequential if the human in charge (god I do not like this term, they are in charge of nothing in fact, we are supposed to be in charge individually, all of us), well, if the human "in charge" are in fact controlled by the out of this world beings.

Où étais-tu quand tu as vu l'OVNI? Quel camp de chasse?

[eric charles]

There is no bickering here Eric that I see.

What I see is rather an exchange of information. Nothing more. Based of what we have heard, seen or lived, depending on each one of us. The non consequential topics might be reall consequential if the human in charge (god I do not like this term, they are in charge of nothing in fact, we are supposed to be in charge individually, all of us), well, if the human "in charge" are in fact controlled by the out of this world beings.

Où étais-tu quand tu as vu l'OVNI? Quel camp de chasse?

J'etais a St-Mathias de Bonneterre .

Vers 10hr le soir en Novembre a la Chasse pour le Chevreuil , Un grosse lumiere bleuatre etait environ 500-800 metre de nous , Moi je veut dire un grosse lumiere , comme si ils etait stationner dans le champ par terre , la lumiere penetrait au travers le les abrbres .
Dans ce coin il y as pas de lumiere de rue ni pour 6-7 km , rien du tout .

Nous avous essayer de repliquer la situation en prenant 10 lumiere a 1,000,000 de chandelles chaqunes , et l'eclairage ne venait meme pas proche , ni le spectrum . et dans ce temps les lumiere LED n'existait pas pour produire l'effect bleuatre .

On pensait c'etaient des braconneurs mais , impossible impossible !

[Flash]

There is no bickering here Eric that I see.

What I see is rather an exchange of information. Nothing more. Based of what we have heard, seen or lived, depending on each one of us. The non consequential topics might be reall consequential if the human in charge (god I do not like this term, they are in charge of nothing in fact, we are supposed to be in charge individually, all of us), well, if the human "in charge" are in fact controlled by the out of this world beings.

Où étais-tu quand tu as vu l'OVNI? Quel camp de chasse?

J'etais a St-Mathias de Bonneterre .

Vers 10hr le soir en Novembre a la Chasse pour le Chevreuil , Un grosse lumiere bleuatre etait environ 500-800 metre de nous , Moi je veut dire un grosse lumiere , comme si ils etait stationner dans le champ par terre , la lumiere penetrait au travers le les abrbres .
Dans ce coin il y as pas de lumiere de rue ni pour 6-7 km , rien du tout .

Nous avous essayer de repliquer la situation en prenant 10 lumiere a 1,000,000 de chandelles chaqunes , et l'eclairage ne venait meme pas proche , ni le spectrum . et dans ce temps les lumiere LED n'existait pas pour produire l'effect bleuatre .

On pensait c'etaient des braconneurs mais , impossible impossible !

Ouais, peu de doute, soit un OVNI, soit les militaires avec leurs OVNI et ça revient pas mal au même. As-tu du temps manquant, soit toi, soit tes amis? Avez-vous vérifié le temps, l'heure?

Sorry guys, we are just specifying Charles live UFO observation.

[Camilo]

They don't want to take over our planet, they already did it long ago. It's in their best interest to keep it going as it is. Us divided, at war, some starving, some screwing others (USA & EU screwing the rest of the world and working with them), and some believing we're in charge.

[eric charles]

There is no bickering here Eric that I see.

What I see is rather an exchange of information. Nothing more. Based of what we have heard, seen or lived, depending on each one of us. The non consequential topics might be reall consequential if the human in charge (god I do not like this term, they are in charge of nothing in fact, we are supposed to be in charge individually, all of us), well, if the human "in charge" are in fact controlled by the out of this world beings.

Où étais-tu quand tu as vu l'OVNI? Quel camp de chasse?

J'etais a St-Mathias de Bonneterre .

Vers 10hr le soir en Novembre a la Chasse pour le Chevreuil , Un grosse lumiere bleuatre etait environ 500-800 metre de nous , Moi je veut dire un grosse lumiere , comme si ils etait stationner dans le champ par terre , la lumiere penetrait au travers le les abrbres .
Dans ce coin il y as pas de lumiere de rue ni pour 6-7 km , rien du tout .

Nous avous essayer de repliquer la situation en prenant 10 lumiere a 1,000,000 de chandelles chaqunes , et l'eclairage ne venait meme pas proche , ni le spectrum . et dans ce temps les lumiere LED n'existait pas pour produire l'effect bleuatre .

On pensait c'etaient des braconneurs mais , impossible impossible !

Ouais, peu de doute, soit un OVNI, soit les militaires avec leurs OVNI et ça revient pas mal au même. As-tu du temps manquant, soit toi, soit tes amis? Avez-vous vérifié le temps, l'heure?

Sorry guys, we are just specifying Charles live UFO observation.

Hmmm je ne pense pas , quand on est a la chasse la derniere affaire qu'on pense cest l'heure hihihihih , nous etions trois hommes , On vas faire dodo 12:00 avec un peu de biere , est debout tot a 5;00 , a part de ca , moi je n'ai pas de recolletion de m'avoir fait prendre ou avoir du temps manquer

[jiminii]

the way I see it is like this ... after learning about my other timelines ... and the millions we sent back to align this part of the game ... it really isn't so necessary to get everyone enlightened ... the mistake we made was in the design ... this mind that records 25 pictures a second and doesn't take responsibility for what happens when the person is hurt and records all the data as one big huge mess with hypnotic commands from just the words people will say when they are unconscious ... so by sending new spirits back with this mind removed .. we go back to our basic knowingness ... we didn't need that mind ... that mind has caused hell for the longest period of time than anything ever created before .. we can do very well on the spirits ability to just KNOW ... doesn't need a mind ... that is full of booby traps he carries from lifetime to lifetime ...

and it worked ... maybe no one sees it yet .. but I can say from what I am getting from my future timeline is this ... I worked ... so doesn't matter what people think about any alien take over .. they are also using this same mind as everyone and every other alien is through out this universe we are in ... and they all want the same as us .. they want to be free from this hell too ...so it became a conquest for this planet ... but truth is ... the millions that were sent back do not have a time track of more than 80 trillions of years of endless pain ... so LRH said .. there never was an OT (operating thetan) there were only Key'd out OT's ... means they had a release from the electrical charge that caused them not to be OT's .. the Ot's are the beings capable of creating a universe like this ... but now we have true OT's that were and are being sent back from the future created NEW ... and they are here like all baby GODS ... they are newly made GODS with no experience ...

so you might find you are one of them ... but if you are not ... it doesn't mean you will not eventually be one ... that would be a mistake ... not allowing everyone to start new with all the pain removed ... but this time ... a more educated spirit

yes ... this is why when trey asked the question "who is holding your aberrations in place" ... will find all the other timelines I have .. so the being I am .. has aberrations .,. but they come from my other timelines and also what I have to confront on this planet and around this planet .and my timelines in the future are auditing out the aberrations of my other timelines so eventually all of me will be .. but the purity of beingness .. "the light" .. that is here ... doesn't necessarily have to be ONLY coming from Scientology ,,, it is coming from ALL the millions of spirits .. that were sent back .. whatever their think is ... they WILL align this planet and we WILL BE FREE AGAIN ... and happy little spirits ...

to all a good future

jim

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Its so interesting peoples views on our planets direction.

i also find it hard to believe an opinions merit when the opinion has never encountered the ones being spoken of. its all second and third hand information forming these opinions. Victimist mentalities based on what someones elces friend told their brother that read it in a news article on you tube .... If anybody has been gotten to its the victimists . . . whomever wanted control has succedded admirably with this as the result.

imo we cannot judge till we have sat down and spoken to the ones being spoken of. first hand.

i truly wonder if anybody can come up with Captain Bill Robertson's opinion of extra terestrial involvement ? that woukd be an interesting take and one i would consider.

hmmm

N

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Jimini i like your brain : 0 ) good thinking there my friend.

cest bon ! oui ?

ho ho ho maurice chevallier

Nanoux Nanoux