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EYES WIDE OPEN
2nd May 2013, 08:41
Now, this article is a little bit fear-porn like in the way that the Doug Hagman stuff is. However, it has 3 different sources confirming the same things and I don't think it should be ignored.

http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/america-stands-upon-the-precipice-of-brutal-martial-law/42784



The contents of this article are controversial and the potential consequences are frightening. I did not rely on only source of information to bring this information to the attention of the public. Personally known, but unnamed ex-intelligence sources, who have previously proven the veracity of their knowledge and trustworthiness were the original bearers of this information. Second, a known and highly respectable source will be cited as the second source. However, the best source of the following information is the undisputed paper trail of government documents, legislative actions and Executive Orders are the third and the most reliable source of this information.

Credibility of Sources



I have been approached by the proverbial unnamed sources who are personally known to me, over the past week, in order to use me as a mouthpiece to spread the word to as many as possible, that the globalists are going for broke and are moving to destroy and enslave all nations, but none will be subjugated with the furor that is the United States because our country is the biggest threat to their plans of world domination.

I would never expect anyone to accept the unquestioned word unnamed sources. However, the use of unnamed sources can point us in directions which serve to validate their warnings to the American people if there statements can be backed up by other means. Subsequently, I will be being relying on a named source, who partially validates the claims put forth in this article. In addition, I have searched for a correlation between what I have been told and what I can find in government documents which would point to the validity of the scenario which will be laid out here in this article. I am shocked at how easy it was to cross-validate the globalist intentions through a cursory examination of government documents.

Source #1: Unnamed Former Intelligence Sources

Cutting right to the chase, the globalists have commenced their reign of terror. I was told last October by these same sources that false flag attacks were being planned. I was further told that several more false flag attacks are planned, in “Battle Ground America” in the same time frame, because it makes hard for the public to see the correct tree in a dense forest of possibilities.

Please note that it is confirmed that the government is planning three anti-terrorist drills in major cities in the next 24 days. Additionally, the New York subway system will have “harmless gas” released in a simulated chemical weapons attack. Hard to know which one, if any of these, will a false flag attack in the making. In fact, I have been told that it is standard operating procedure that the globalists have multiple plans on the same day, and execute the most opportune.

I have been told that following the attack in Boston, the next wave of false flag attacks will consist of chemical and biological attacks along with another school shooting. The trump card will be a tactical nuclear weapon. Who will get the blame? There are two targets of opportunity, namely, Syria and/or Iran. These attacks will provide the excuse for martial law (for our protection of course) and the pretext to launch a war to defend the Petrodollar.

What Will It Be Like to Live Under Martial Law?

My former intelligence sources state that the internet will be taken down immediately as the globalists see it as an opportunity to galvanize the masses against the criminals who will subjugating the country. All bank accounts, pension funds and 401K’s will be frozen and stolen. Extreme travel restrictions will be put in place. Random house to house searches will be conducted. What will they be looking for? Of course, they will be looking for guns and the false flag events will give them the pretext to do so. And they will also be looking for known trouble makers.

Look at the Youtube videos of Boston martial law and you will have a great idea of why the Boston event went down the way that it did.

My sources report that many of the rounded up people will be sent to re-education camps, if not outright executed. Also, food will be rationed, the use of utilities will be limited to certain times of day. Searches of homes in which the authorities will be looking for food and water supplies will be conducted and violators will have their products seized and they will be arrested. People will be given food ration cards similar to WWII. The anticipated propaganda to sell this to the public will be that it is for the war effort. Shopping malls, stadiums and other public venues will be the gathering site for people who are hungry or are seeking safe refuge. However, these centers carry the risk of being random extermination centers and a prelude to stack and pack living conditions forced upon them by the authorities. There will be a draft, both for the military and civilian work brigades. In other words, all people will be the unquestionable property of the state. All major corporations and natural resources will be nationalized under the direction of DHS and under Executive Order. If these mandates are fully implemented, we will be living in hell on earth. Is there any collaborating information and/or data which could serve to bring credibility to these reports? Read on, the confirmations will be undeniable.

#2 Source: My Recent Conversation With Pastor Lindsay Williams

Late last week, I responded to an email request made by Pastor Williams to appear on my talk show to share some startling details of what he has been told is coming by some of his global elite friends. I called Lindsay and we booked his appearance on my next show. To me, Lindsay Williams has a great deal of credibility. He used to be a pastor to some of the global elite and still maintains some of these contacts among the still living.

Pastor Williams, too, is often used to disseminate information. His track record is stellar. Without stealing all of his thunder, Lindsay related to me that the dollar could be collapsed as early as the end of the year and martial law will be imposed. The world’s economy is going to fail and what he described to me reminded me of the story line of the NBC hit series, Revolution, in which America disintegrates into a series of feudal societies all struggling against each other in a fight to the death scenario. To paraphrase what Pastor Williams told me, I would summarize his message by saying that the people in charge will control everything.

The next and obvious question is if there is any confirming written proof of what my ex-intelligence sources and Pastor Williams are stating?

#3 Source: The Government Documents Which Validate the “Speculation”

There is a trail of governmental paperwork which confirms what many in high places are beginning to leak out. Further government documents are quite clear on these points. Further, I think the country should be asking why are so many prominent bankers leaving America? I first became aware of this fact as Jim Marrs revealed this fact on my show, last fall.

Read further, the motivation for departing banksters should become apparent.

Why Impose Martial Law This Soon?

Why is the move to lock down America proceeding with such rapidity? Simple, too many of us have awakened to the tyranny that is unfolding. False flag events come and go and an increasing number of people are seeing right through games being played, such as planning terrorist training drills which coincide with a major false flag operation.

When the Oklahoma City bombing happened, the country reacted with horror. When 3,000 people were killed on 9/11, more people started asking questions. When the London and Madrid bombings took place, a few of us noticed the coincidence of terrorist training drills and the actual event. When the latest “terrorist bombing” took place in Boston, the “koolaid drinking CNN believers” are in the clear minority, for we have the globalist playbook and have caught on to their old familiar script and as a result we no longer believe their lies.

Late last year, I detailed how former intelligence operatives were bugging out to seek a safe haven in prepared getaways from the calamities that the globalists were enacting with the intent of seizing total control of the country through martial law which would be followed by a series of false flag attacks.These are the same two people who have temporarily broken their silence to bring me the first set of information offered in the first part of this article.

The Boston Marathon bombing shook them up and they claim that this is the opening salvo in this subjugation of the American people. The martial law situation in Boston was the beta test for everything from gun confiscation to the arresting of dissidents (i.e. anyone who disagrees with this criminal administration).

Based upon what these for intelligence types were telling me, I have been calling for a false flag event to begin the tipping point of the coming tyranny. The Boston bombing is the trigger event. Make no mistake about it, we are going to war to protect the endangered Petrodollar. And martial law will be simultaneously ushered in after a series of false flag events.

Dissidents Will Be Removed or Worse

The NDAA has provided this criminal administration with all the “authority” to secretly arrest and even murder dissidents without a trial. The NDAA can be viewed as nothing but an East German Stasi enforcement mechanism which did the same in the hell that was East Germany. Thus, the claims of the intelligence sources about removing dissidents for “re-education or worse” is now within the grasp of this administration

Food As a Weapon

One of the items I view as credible from my intelligence sources is that the government will use food to control the population.

Even Ray Charles could see that Obama is setting the table to take his place among Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Castro and Mao as another despot in the long line of tyrannical leaders who would grant themselves the authority to subjugate the masses by using food as a weapon. Americans desperately need to look at history in order to understand what happens every time the people of a government allows the government to control its food supplies and farms.

In hindsight, I have often wondered how prophetic was Obama’s campaign speech when he promised to fundamentally transform America? This was actually one campaign promise that Obama is trying to keep. NSSM 200 has come full circle, but in this case, it is specifically aimed at the American people. History show us that Socialists, Communists, Islamists and Marxists, use food and the production of food as a weapon against their own people in order to solidify power and control. We could soon be seeing the same thing.

I venture to say that most individuals who get their “news” from FOX and CNN would hold fast to the belief that the benevolent U.S. government would never use food as a weapon against the American people. Someone should remind these “sheeple” that this is the same U.S. government which has been caught shipping drugs into Mexico underOperation Fast and Furious which has resulted in the deaths of a half dozen U.S. law enforcement officials. Yes, this is the same government which has turned a blind eye toHSBC bank setting up fictitious bank accounts in order to launder money derived from the profits of drug trafficking and running guns and then turning around and sending this money to fund various terrorist organizations. Yes, this is the same government which permits theFederal Reserve to send trillions of American dollars in order to bail out their own personal banking interests in Europe. Yes, this is the same U.S. government , through the TSA, which commits second degree sexual assault on airline travelers under the guise of protecting Americans from the very terrorists that they are complicit in funding through organizations such as the HSBC bank. Therefore, it is prudent to ask the question, would the United States use food a tool of governmental policy in order to control its population? Unfortunately, this question has already been answered in the affirmative.

Further, the use of food by the U.S. government has been a matter of official U.S. governmental covert policy since 1974-1975.In December, 1974, National Security Council directed by Henry Kissinger completed a classified study entitled, “National Security Study Memorandum 200: Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for U.S. Security and Overseas Interests.” The study was based upon the unproven claims that population growth in Lesser Developed Countries (LDC) constituted a serious risk to America’s national security.

In November 1975 President Ford, based upon the tenets of NSSM 200 outlined a classified plan to forcibly reduce population growth in LDC countries through birth control, war and famine. Ford’s new national security adviser, Brent Scowcroft, in conjunction with CIA Director, George H. W. Bush, were tasked with implementing the plan and the secretaries of state, treasury, defense, and agriculture assisted in the implementation of these insane genocidal plans.

NSSM 200 formally raised the question, “Would food be considered an instrument of national power? … Is the U.S. prepared to accept food rationing to help people who can’t/won’t control their population growth?” Kissinger has answered these questions when he stated that he was predicting a series of contrived famines, created by mandatory programs and this would make exclusive reliance on birth control programs unnecessary in this modern day application of eugenics in a scheme that would allow Henry to have his cake and eat it too in that the world would finally be rid of the “useless eaters!”

Third world population control, using food as one of the primary weapons, has long been a matter of official covert national policy and a portion of President Obama’s Executive Order (EO), National Defense Resources Preparedness is a continuation of that policy. Only now, the intended target are not the LDC’s but, instead, the American people.

With the stroke of his pen, Obama has total and absolute control over all food where his Executive Order states:

e) “Food resources” means all commodities and products, (simple, mixed, or compound), or complements to such commodities or products, that are capable of being ingested by either human beings or animals, irrespective of other uses to which such commodities or products may be put, at all stages of processing from the raw commodity to the products thereof in vendible form for human or animal consumption. “Food resources” also means potable water packaged in commercially marketable containers, all starches, sugars, vegetable and animal or marine fats and oils, seed, cotton, hemp, and flax fiber, but does not mean any such material after it loses its identity as an agricultural commodity or agricultural product.

(f) “Food resource facilities” means plants, machinery, vehicles (including on farm), and other facilities required for the production, processing, distribution, and storage (including cold storage) of food resources, and for the domestic distribution of farm equipment and fertilizer…”

This unconstitutional Executive Order is particularly disturbing in that it clearly states that the government has control over anything that is “capable of being ingested by either human beings or animals…” If you thought that you and Fido were going to get through coming food crisis by storing and consuming dog food, think again.

How will farmers maintain the nation’s food supply when all fertilizer, their farm equipment and all of their vehicles are under the control of this sociopathic President or the next power-hungry President?

The term “all food storage facilities” includes your refrigerator, your pantry and even the very food in your cabinets as well as what is on your kitchen table. In short, anywhere you keep food is now under the control of the government and can be redistributed.

Have you recently been scratching your head in bewilderment as you watch on the news as the Amish have had their farms raided, raw milk producers have been jailed and the kids running lemonade stands have been shut down and ticketed? Now you know why these abuses are being perpetrated by the government in that it represents a mere conditioning process designed to get all U.S. citizens used to the idea that the government owns all food and food production.

The most clever aspect of this Executive Order is that no Hegelian Dialectic (i.e., false flag event) is needed as a pretense to seize food and imperil survivability. Section 201(b) of the Obama EO clearly states that this EO is enforceable under both emergency andnon-emergency conditions.”

The warning issued by the unnamed intelligence sources certainly seems more credible given these set of circumstances.

Through the National Defense Preparedness Act, Obama is following in the footsteps of Hitler and Stalin and we should all be worried, very worried.

More Executive Orders Validating the Ex-Intel Claims

The paper trail not only points to what is coming, the evidence is overwhelming. We are headed for an Orwellian nightmare like no dictator has ever been able to impose on any country at any time in world history. Here is a partial list of Obama’s Executive Orders along with a brief description.

Government Control Over All Fuel and Transportation



Executive Order 10990

Allows the government to take control over all modes of transportation, highways, and seaports.

Executive Order 11003

Allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

Executive Order 11005

Allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and publicstorage facilities.

Executive Order 10997

Allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.

Government Control Over All Food and Water

Executive Order 10998

Allows the government to take over all food resources and farms



The Ability to Enslave the American People

Executive Order 11000

Allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

Executive Order 11001

Allows the government to take over all health, education, and welfare functions.

Executive Order 11002

Designates the Postmaster General to operate national registration of all persons.

Executive Order 11004

Allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

Ability to Grant the President Total Dictatorial Control

Executive Order 11051

Specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

Executive Order 11310

Grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

Executive Order 11049

Assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

Intentions or Games?

The correlations between the ex-intelligence sources, Pastor Williams and the government paper trail appears strong. However, one should ask themselves a question. Are these acts merely the product of a set of politicians having too much time on their hands? If the government was not planning on a complete martial law shut down to accompany the coming WWIII, then what are all these laws and Executive Orders about? For myself, I have concluded that we in the patriotic dissident crowd are in a great deal of danger and I am seriously rethinking my position on expatriation. I would never ask anyone to act based upon my writings. However, I hope I have encouraged many of you to do your own research and form your own best conclusions and course of action for you and your family.

Final Thoughts

Still Not Convinced? Then why did DHS purchase 2.2 billion rounds of these? Who do they plan on shooting?

Kryztian
2nd May 2013, 12:00
While Obama and Bush have issued some peculiar executive orders, the info under #3 is dead wrong.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/executiveorders.asp

sunflower
2nd May 2013, 12:07
I have not read the entire article yet but I was becoming so upset I had to post. I had not realized that all these executive bills had been signed into law. I am wondering why America is so complacent. All this has happened before. The article mentions the dire conditions of East Germany under the Stasi as an example. If I were living in the U.S. I would be thinking very seriously of relocating but where to? What about Canada? Has anyone heard anything about bills and laws allowing similar manouvers to be used here?

Update: written and posted before seeing the Snopes report re part three. :confused:

Bill Ryan
2nd May 2013, 12:32
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For what it's worth -- and I've been following this closely for months -- I [pretty much] agree with the summary. This is why I'm in Ecuador.

Here's a really interesting (and in my opinion, important) reference, which I've given before:

Protocols For Economic Collapse In America - Al Martin, 2004

http://projectavalon.net/Protocols_For_Economic_Collapse_In_America.pdf

Start reading at the top of page 5. (Please do this!) Note that it was actually written in 2004, in the days of the Bush administration, though it was posted on Rense.com several years later. The significant point is that the protocols for collapse have been in place for many years now.

EYES WIDE OPEN
2nd May 2013, 13:38
Some clarification on the executive orders:


This is a list of executive orders in force that outline Emergency Powers. Some of these were signed by prior US Presidents going back all the way to JFK. Obama specifically has signed executive orders starting with the number EO-13489 and forward. But these all reference powers Obama could use to limit your freedoms:


Executive Order 10990 allows the Government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

* Executive Order 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
* Executive Order 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.
* Executive Order 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
* Executive Order 11001 allows the government to take over all health education and welfare functions.

* Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

* Executive Order 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

* Executive Order 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate and establish new locations for populations.

* Executive Order 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.

* Executive Order 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issues over a fifteen-year period.

* Executive Order 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

* Executive Order 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute Industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

* Executive Order 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money in U.S. financial institutions in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the president declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six month

http://www.westernjournalism.com/a-comprehensive-list-of-obamas-worst-executive-orders/

Current List of President Obama's Executive Orders
This list is complete and current to April 30, 2013

The list:
http://1461days.blogspot.co.uk/2009/01/current-list-of-president-obamas.html#.UYJrR7Uqah4

ljwheat
2nd May 2013, 14:19
We are seeing pretty much a repeat of pre-natsi-Germany, only this time in English. And even they couldn’t believe it even back then till it was to late and already a done deal.

Looking up at a raised hammer, just before its your turn, and the only thing we can say now is “Oh, sh……… then the lights go out…. Then you wake up as a baby again to continue the endless life chain.. Hello ?

I really envy those who haven’t swallowed the green pill yet, and will never see the hammer raised above there heads. " Sigh"........... I really do.

gripreaper
3rd May 2013, 01:58
For what it's worth -- and I've been following this closely for months -- I [pretty much] agree with the summary. This is why I'm in Ecuador.

This is the first time I have actually heard you say this,
This is why I'm in Ecuadoralthough you have been warning all of us for years. This global collapse must be imminent.

I'm standing my ground. The United States has experienced the most expansive and free economy in the last 70 years, unprecedented in any history since Rome. Freedom, Liberty and self determination is tough to stuff back in the box after you let it out. This is the ultimate test. Like Gerald Celente says: "When people have nothing to lose, they lose it" Our military will not stand with the elite, but with the people.

I'm convinced, regardless of the remote viewers who claim they cannot see past 2014, that we are headed for a golden age. Will we see a rough transition, replete with many exiting the planet under adverse conditions? Quite possibly. Will America FINALLY stand against the elite and point the finger at the true culprits of the demise? Quite possibly.

We have our original DNA memory of this very thing happening in our past. We rebelled and the entire infrastructure of the elite was destroyed, driving all of mankind back at least 13,000 years. This memory, although unconscious in most people, is very real and will come racing to the forefront if we find ourselves in similar conditions.

There are too many souls who came here from all over the cosmos to participate and be beacons and leaders, strong voices and advocates, to help with this transition and usher in the golden age. They will come over the mountain like a flood.

Although I sit silently on this blog, when the time comes, I will give it my full attention and my full participation in the full awakening of mankind and the liberation of all souls. You have my word on this.

Fred Steeves
3rd May 2013, 11:04
For what it's worth -- and I've been following this closely for months -- I [pretty much] agree with the summary. This is why I'm in Ecuador.



I'm standing my ground.

So are we. Already made the interim move to the area we want to be in, and now looking for property out in the country. From there, begin the process of learning to be as self sufficient as possible.



Our military will not stand with the elite, but with the people..

I wouldn't count on that. The way I see it anyway, the ones who wouldn't take part would likely have little choice but to desert, and head home. Conditioning + power are forces to be reckoned with.


Will America FINALLY stand against the elite and point the finger at the true culprits of the demise? Quite possibly.

I just don't see it grip, not in substantial numbers anyway. Although I'm certainly open to being wrong. :)


We have our original DNA memory of this very thing happening in our past. We rebelled and the entire infrastructure of the elite was destroyed,

I'm with you on that one brother, in fact I'll even one up you. I contend it's happened time and time again, a cycle. Quite possibly the "winners" and "losers" alternate to a degree, but one thing remains the same. Always. Look at where we find ourselves, war does not = peace. There has to be a better way, and we need to dig very deep to find it.


There are too many souls who came here from all over the cosmos to participate and be beacons and leaders, strong voices and advocates, to help with this transition and usher in the golden age. They will come over the mountain like a flood.

Again I could be wrong, but it seems more and more to me that this is an individual thing. Like a sort of crucible. "How are you going to handle it THIS time?"


Although I sit silently on this blog, when the time comes, I will give it my full attention and my full participation in the full awakening of mankind and the liberation of all souls.

What if that's not the point? Or possible? What if it's just simply not their "time" yet? What if the point is to at long last fully awaken ourselves? Maybe, just maybe, all else flows from there...

We shall see.

Bill Ryan
4th May 2013, 18:32
For what it's worth -- and I've been following this closely for months -- I [pretty much] agree with the summary. This is why I'm in Ecuador.

This is the first time I have actually heard you say this,
This is why I'm in Ecuadoralthough you have been warning all of us for years. This global collapse must be imminent.

I'm standing my ground.

I salute and honor anyone who is standing their ground -- in the US, or anywhere else. (There are people standing their ground in Europe and the Middle East, too!)

Over the years, ever since 2008, I've been asked by many people where they should be, what they should do, and/or whether (e.g) they should move from this country to that country. My answer is always consistent: it depends on your calling, your mission, why you're here on this planet right now, and (small detail! :) ) your personal circumstances.

We all strategize our life -- whether we're aware of it or not -- and when we arrived here this lifetime, we had a plan. Sometimes that plan gets derailed or interfered with, but it's always still there.

Our individual challenge is always to become as aware as possible of this plan (clue: what energizes you, motivates you, or makes you feel excited?) -- and carry it out if at all possible.

I was called to be in Ecuador, and so have a number of others I know. That might not be your plan, or someone else's plan. This all goes far deeper than just jumping on the nearest lifeboat for safety: that's not why I'm here.

It is safer here than in the US -- for sure -- but that's not the point. We can often talk about survival and 'preparedness', but the real question is: What are we surviving for? That's for each person to answer... and depends on their mission.

ljwheat
4th May 2013, 19:35
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=153334828171409&set=a.128971363941089.22621.100004846781080&type=1&ref=nf I fixed this matrix watch to a spiritual one.

"What are we --- What are we surviving for? For me its the power of NOW --- the one, and only place I can not, run from. For when I get there its still Now. And matrix thinking keeps reality of spirit trapped in the future, or the past --- A none reality.

Spirit is not of this world, or Spirit is not of this Matrix of mens concepts.

Changing Geographic’s dose not affect the Matrix. And spirit is not affected by this world or matrix when you stay in the Now. " Be in it not of it. "

And the truth shall set us free of the Matrix of men’s minds. Finding your way into now -- is the way…. Out of the matrix's power over our minds. Spirit is always free of it .......... In the "NOW"

Finding ways of staying in the Now is the resistance on the war of battleing the Matrix.

Much nowness to us all. :grouphug:

norman
4th May 2013, 21:00
Being a 'big-picture' kinda guy, I feel sure one single lifetime is a mere data point.

Having been a lifelong objector to the idea of 'dog eat dog', 'survival of the fittest', whittling down the gene pool to a ruthless 'winner' takes all few', I'm too sensitive to the notion that we are being driven to reducing the human genetic qualities in such a direction.

Our worldly instincts are the material "they" seem to be working with to craft the outcome of their project. I'm aware that I have a choice of either joining in or keeping my spiritual powder dry for a few thousand more lifetimes.

For now, I'll stick to gathering data :)

bruno dante
5th May 2013, 02:25
I'm curious as to the degree of severity of this prophesized geopolitical meltdown. Depending on who we listen to, it ranges from losing a few of our basic rights to a the US becoming a full fledged military state.

I suppose we should err on the side of caution. However...

Mr Fred, if the citizens of the US don't have the backbone (or even basic awareness) to rebel against their oppressors, and if the military will remain stubbornly loyal to the establishment, what exactly is the point of moving to the country? Buy yourself a few extra months?;) And self-sufficiency? If you think Monosanto is bad now...whew!

These people, these illuminatti have contingency plans upon contingency plans. They are aware people will flee to country areas....and they have a plan for you.too!

I hate to sound existentially hopeless, but if these global rulers even have half the technology we credit them with, then there hardly seems any difference between painting yourself.pink and standing on the white house lawn or hiding out in a bush in Indonesia. And if you're lucky enough to survive either, you'll likely wish you hadn't! (See: Orwell)

Fred Steeves
6th May 2013, 14:21
Our individual challenge is always to become as aware as possible of this plan (clue: what energizes you, motivates you, or makes you feel excited?) -- and carry it out if at all possible.

I was called to be in Ecuador, and so have a number of others I know. That might not be your plan, or someone else's plan. This all goes far deeper than just jumping on the nearest lifeboat for safety: that's not why I'm here.

It is safer here than in the US -- for sure -- but that's not the point. We can often talk about survival and 'preparedness', but the real question is: What are we surviving for? That's for each person to answer... and depends on their mission.

Nicely put Bill.




Mr Fred, if the citizens of the US don't have the backbone (or even basic awareness) to rebel against their oppressors, and if the military will remain stubbornly loyal to the establishment, what exactly is the point of moving to the country? Buy yourself a few extra months?;)

Hi Bruno, fair question. For me anyway it's no longer about what U.S., or any other country's citizens do, it's about what I do. Like Bill said, we all came into this life with a plan. Now I still don't know what that plan is, but I am continually refining a keen sense of awareness of what "feels" right, and where I am supposed to be both physically and spiritually.



These people, these illuminatti have contingency plans upon contingency plans. They are aware people will flee to country areas....and they have a plan for you.too!

I hate to sound existentially hopeless, but if these global rulers even have half the technology we credit them with, then there hardly seems any difference between painting yourself.pink and standing on the white house lawn or hiding out in a bush in Indonesia. And if you're lucky enough to survive either, you'll likely wish you hadn't! (See: Orwell)

Yes, I've read 1984 twice, and can see very clearly where things are heading. There are many levels to this "game" being played out, survival being only one of them. Being prepared and out in the country is not hiding, it's about being both spiritually centered, and biding time, as the cities almost certainly would be the first to go. The "controllers" may be masters of the chessboard, but they are not masters of the Universe. Our lives out in the country may end in being drawn and quartered, or fate may have something in the realms of the seemingly miraculous in store.

Following "the plan" is like reading a book (or living it), chapter by chapter. There are levels to this story that as of yet I can scarcely comprehend, but "the ending" has a purpose, and will take care of itself.

This part of the Hopi prophecy pretty much sums it up for me:




This could be a good time! There is a river now flowing very fast. It is so great and swift that there will be those who are afraid. They will try to hold onto the shore. They will feel they are being torn apart and will suffer greatly. Know the river has it's destination. The elders say we must let go of
the shore, push off into the middle of the river, keep our eyes open, and our heads above the water.

And I say, see who is in there with you and celebrate.

bruno dante
7th May 2013, 03:07
Hi Fred, Thanks for the thoughtful reply.I neglected.to.say that I hope I'm wrong!;) This is one debate that I have absolutely no ego investment in, ha!

I don't consider.moving to the country hiding, I just wonder sometimes if its simply.delaying the inevitable. I'm not suggesting we wave the white flag either...just playing devils advocate here I suppose.

You got a spare room in that country dwelling?;)

AriG
9th May 2013, 01:23
For what it's worth -- and I've been following this closely for months -- I [pretty much] agree with the summary. This is why I'm in Ecuador.

This is the first time I have actually heard you say this,
This is why I'm in Ecuadoralthough you have been warning all of us for years. This global collapse must be imminent.

I'm standing my ground.

I salute and honor anyone who is standing their ground -- in the US, or anywhere else. (There are people standing their ground in Europe and the Middle East, too!)

Over the years, ever since 2008, I've been asked by many people where they should be, what they should do, and/or whether (e.g) they should move from this country to that country. My answer is always consistent: it depends on your calling, your mission, why you're here on this planet right now, and (small detail! :) ) your personal circumstances.

We all strategize our life -- whether we're aware of it or not -- and when we arrived here this lifetime, we had a plan. Sometimes that plan gets derailed or interfered with, but it's always still there.

Our individual challenge is always to become as aware as possible of this plan (clue: what energizes you, motivates you, or makes you feel excited?) -- and carry it out if at all possible.

I was called to be in Ecuador, and so have a number of others I know. That might not be your plan, or someone else's plan. This all goes far deeper than just jumping on the nearest lifeboat for safety: that's not why I'm here.

It is safer here than in the US -- for sure -- but that's not the point. We can often talk about survival and 'preparedness', but the real question is: What are we surviving for? That's for each person to answer... and depends on their mission.

Your commentary about our live's mission is brilliant and much appreciated, but regarding South America- are you not a bit concerned about it being targeted as THE emerging market and all of the inevitable instability that will ensue? South America has what "they" want. Natural resources and consumers. How long do you suspect that Ecuador will be able to thwart the influence of geo-politics? How much time does it have before it too is unlivable?

AriG
9th May 2013, 20:28
I am, it appears, a thread killer. Sorry :(

donk
9th May 2013, 21:59
I am, it appears, a thread killer. Sorry :(

Heh, i know that feeling well...:o :p

My two cents is that these days I am beginning to welcome martial law, as it appears the reality is coming closer to an Orwellian nightmare.

I am afraid the real clamp down of control will look more like technocratic tyranny where the masses don't even recognize they are oppressed, and are effectively mind controlled in maintaining the status-quo. At least with martial law, people will have something they can't DENY, maybe a resistance could even form around.

I used to fear resource depletion, making such a future impossible, but it seems the controllers planted that idea too...and amassed enough to keep it going. We all know that they got the tech to get it done, and enough ignorance of it to keep control of it for themselves.

Information is power. If the masses KNOW their throats are being stepped on (and that freedom is just a marketing term hijacked by "US govt" long time ago), they can (doesn't mean WILL, but I can dream, can't I...) do something about it....

norman
14th May 2013, 02:30
I am, it appears, a thread killer. Sorry :(


Hehe !....

naaah..

At least 95% of threads on Avalon, and any other forum I know of, deserve to be "killed off" by the magic of 'personhood'.

We are in a volatile medium here on the web. We have the potential to power up a timely personal awareness from the mass input of it all. We also have the slightly more likely potential to melt into a "hive" mind with it all too.

I say 'slightly more likely' because, I've observed, so far, that this is what's happening on the bigger scale with all this broadband chatter. We can, of course, discipline ourselves to not allow that to happen to us personally,

But, as the general momentum runs away from us, what are we to do ?

Mark
14th May 2013, 03:08
Speaking of thread killers ...

Like Fred, I've been called to a place of being that is magical. Too many wonderful synchronicities brought me to this space. I was in Canada, not safe but safER than the States, and yet I had to return. To return for this.

Not many noticed and I don't think there was one thread about it here on PA but Assata Shakur was placed on the FBI Most Wanted List, she's at the top now I think. For those who don't know she was a Black Panther and Black Liberation Army member back in the 70s, she was railroaded for murder, sent to prison and escaped, making her way to Cuba where Fidel granted her Asylum.

Obama and Holder, two black puppets, have moved her to the top of the FBI list signalling that they are by their own will or that of their Masters negating the entire Civil Rights movement and the push for not just equality under the law but a final emancipation of the black population from under the oppressive foot of a system that many are just now waking up to but that black folk have seen and lived under for a long, long time. Of course, when even the white people are enslaved, those who were already at the bottom don't have far to go, according to the plans of those who think they rule.

I always call the black population the sleeping giant. Because when we wake up, we like to do it together, in the streets and loudly. In the decades since the Civil Rights movement and the Hippies and Freedom movements of the 60s and 70s, entire communities of nationalists have grown up, just like the right-wing has their patriots, although the black nationalists cannot properly be considered left-wing, really. The are not really oppositional to the right-wing movement because African Americans are basically conservative in nature, being an overwhelmingly spiritual people. They are anti-genocide and against all who willingly participate WITH the system, also expressing its preferred supremacist opinions and beliefs, in carrying it out.

If they use this effort to begin going after the urban blacks who have been preaching freedom for decades now, that will include the NOI, the 5%ers, the Moors, Hebrews and all of the other political and spiritual groups that see no difference between the two and who have been waiting for this day for many years.

People like to ignore race, pretend it doesn't exist, expecially in the New Age. I'm quite sick of that willful blindness because the Elite certainly play it for all its worth, using people's unconscious prejudices against them.

Blacks and American Indians, particularly, can be pushed no lower. The conditions in black communities around this nation are catastrophic. The only reason they haven't blown up already is because Obama has played the role of pacification. I think that was one of his major jobs, actually.

Now that the stage has been nationally and internationally set with the blood money on Assata Shakur, their intentions are obvious. They will disappear those dissident community leaders as soon as they can. It might happen in a way that there is a false flag in some big city that is blamed on black extremists, so that when the roundups begin to occur in the urban areas the majority population will STILL sit somnolent, because still, they haven't come for you.

But then it will only be a matter of time. Short time, at that.

JohnEAngel
14th May 2013, 03:36
well, i thought about not posting this comment as it might seem out of place but here goes. if this is true, then this certainly must dispel the concept of Nibiru or some small solar system wreaking havoc on this planet. i mean, if the globalists know of such a thing, then why bother with this martial law thing? :confused:

AriG
21st May 2013, 15:50
Yes Rayhyt... it is so obvious that the black population has been manipulated into a sub-culture intentionally. It is heartbreaking to see beautiful young men and women throw their lives away under the guise of sports, hip-hop culture, drugs, and the false sense that they are revolutionary, when they are actually playing into the "masters" hands by buying in to the illusion. They are allowing themselves to become everything that the "systems" abhors and doing it believing that they are making a statement. Of course, young people of all races practice this polarized "self-expression". Plenty of good ole boys in my neck of the woods driving pick ups and listening to Hillbilly Rock - another stereotype. Another means of separation.

You are also correct, imo, in observing that most would rather suggest that race is not relevant to this particular "meat suit" experience. "As above, so below" - someone or something created the division and it transcends evolution and the "out of Africa" theory. The world isn't big enough to have supported that theory.

Do you ever see a point where the sins of the past can be forgiven? What will it take to "make it right"? Is the only answer to strive for a homogenous species? Can different races thrive together or is the only answer genetic equalization?

PurpleLama
21st May 2013, 16:59
AriG's post brings to mind a favorite lyris, one that never stops giving me chills, FWIW:

"Yes, up ahead we have a mighty task
To Love the face behind hatreds mask
'Cause on the day we understand our past
By God Almighty we'll be free at last"

Christine
21st May 2013, 18:27
Speaking of thread killers ...

Like Fred, I've been called to a place of being that is magical. Too many wonderful synchronicities brought me to this space. I was in Canada, not safe but safER than the States, and yet I had to return. To return for this.

Not many noticed and I don't think there was one thread about it here on PA but Assata Shakur was placed on the FBI Most Wanted List, she's at the top now I think. For those who don't know she was a Black Panther and Black Liberation Army member back in the 70s, she was railroaded for murder, sent to prison and escaped, making her way to Cuba where Fidel granted her Asylum.

Obama and Holder, two black puppets, have moved her to the top of the FBI list signalling that they are by their own will or that of their Masters negating the entire Civil Rights movement and the push for not just equality under the law but a final emancipation of the black population from under the oppressive foot of a system that many are just now waking up to but that black folk have seen and lived under for a long, long time. Of course, when even the white people are enslaved, those who were already at the bottom don't have far to go, according to the plans of those who think they rule.

I always call the black population the sleeping giant. Because when we wake up, we like to do it together, in the streets and loudly. In the decades since the Civil Rights movement and the Hippies and Freedom movements of the 60s and 70s, entire communities of nationalists have grown up, just like the right-wing has their patriots, although the black nationalists cannot properly be considered left-wing, really. The are not really oppositional to the right-wing movement because African Americans are basically conservative in nature, being an overwhelmingly spiritual people. They are anti-genocide and against all who willingly participate WITH the system, also expressing its preferred supremacist opinions and beliefs, in carrying it out.

If they use this effort to begin going after the urban blacks who have been preaching freedom for decades now, that will include the NOI, the 5%ers, the Moors, Hebrews and all of the other political and spiritual groups that see no difference between the two and who have been waiting for this day for many years.

People like to ignore race, pretend it doesn't exist, expecially in the New Age. I'm quite sick of that willful blindness because the Elite certainly play it for all its worth, using people's unconscious prejudices against them.

Blacks and American Indians, particularly, can be pushed no lower. The conditions in black communities around this nation are catastrophic. The only reason they haven't blown up already is because Obama has played the role of pacification. I think that was one of his major jobs, actually.

Now that the stage has been nationally and internationally set with the blood money on Assata Shakur, their intentions are obvious. They will disappear those dissident community leaders as soon as they can. It might happen in a way that there is a false flag in some big city that is blamed on black extremists, so that when the roundups begin to occur in the urban areas the majority population will STILL sit somnolent, because still, they haven't come for you.

But then it will only be a matter of time. Short time, at that.


Rahkyt,

Thank you for the reminder that there isn't a people on the planet that aren't being targeted through the "war on terror" propaganda. I had to look up who Assata Shakur was and got an education.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/05/20135712155495678.html

May we never, ever again be fooled by the race and religion separation tactics. So true that only now when the boot is in the face of the white conservatives do they grasp that they ignored the black, hispanic and native peoples for too long.

So now we are all Muslim - doesn't matter what your race or religion.

Salutations

mrchunkytown
25th May 2013, 12:35
i totally agree we are heading for a police state, but i absolutely hate when black people make out like they're victims bc theyre black, we are ALL victims in this scenario. now is not the time to divide into different races, this is the time, more than ever, that we need to stand together and stop this, or at least prepare for a revolution when this crap does go down. i apologize if i offended anyone, that was not my intentions. FYI Rayhyt i have read many of your posts and i find you to be a very intelligent and informative person. this is just my personal opinion...