View Full Version : ‘Deathbed testimony’ about UFOs given by former CIA official
Skywizard
3rd May 2013, 20:11
Sorry guys about putting up all the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure threads. From what I'm viewing and reading if this Hearing doesn't wake up our government we are probably “S#@* Out of Luck!” Unless there is an ET invasion no one is going to investigate anything.
Video testimony by an anonymous alleged former CIA official was shown at the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure at the National Press Club in Washington, DC on Friday, May 3. “Anonymous” alleges that, after an invasion threat from President Dwight Eisenhower on Area 51, he and his superior at the CIA were allowed inside the secretive Area 51 in Nevada to gather intel and report back to the president. There, “Anonymous” describes seeing several alien spacecraft, including the craft that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico. Then, he and his superior were taken to the S-4 facility southwest of Area 51 where they observed live extraterrestrials.
http://vimeo.com/64939351
peace...
skywizard
EYES WIDE OPEN
3rd May 2013, 20:49
Hi. I already linked this here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58816-WOW-...Why-is-the-Hearing-On-UFO-Disclosure-not-being-discussed&p=669955#post669955
There are 3 threads on the hearings now. Maybe the mods can merge the threads?
Skywizard
3rd May 2013, 20:57
Hi. I already linked this here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58816-WOW-...Why-is-the-Hearing-On-UFO-Disclosure-not-being-discussed&p=669955#post669955
There are 3 threads on the hearings now. Maybe the mods can merge the threads?
Sorry EYES didn't mean to step on any toes... the mods will probably merge.
skywizard
EYES WIDE OPEN
3rd May 2013, 21:38
No offense taken. :) I just thought it would be easier if its all in one place. :)
GoodETxSG
3rd May 2013, 21:40
I don't think any toe's were stepped on, but I do think a super thread should be dedicated to this event and all of the content that is coming out of it. Thanks for posting Skywizard. I would like to see it all in one spot somehow as well on Avalon along with the good people here weighing in.
IMHO
;)
Dennis Leahy
3rd May 2013, 21:49
(This witness seems very credible to me.)
WOW! Eisenhower was going to invade Area 51 with the First Army to find out what was going on. General (or Retired General) Eisenhower.
That means that the secret government (or the people that some researchers refer to as the Secret Space Program group) was already to a very high level of power in 1958. A high enough level to have kept other presidents in the dark (I assume) and to force Eisenhower to push very hard to get disclosure. I get the sense that the message the envoys were to deliver was received before the envoys arrived at Area 51, and that the Area 51 controllers believed Eisenhower would indeed come calling if they refused to disclose anything.
Very cool testimony.
Dennis
Cidersomerset
3rd May 2013, 22:19
WOW! Eisenhower was going to invade Area 51 with the First Army to find out what was going on. General (or Retired General) Eisenhower.
I was thinking the same thing. Eisenhower as Ex supreme Allied commander
Europe, first head of NATO, five star general and President would certainly not be
afraid of any cabal. This also explains his comments about the mil ind complex as
he left office.He probably is the only President that could have done anything. Since
then the Presidency has been gradually eroded until the last few have been
basically puppets to the cabal/mil ind complex etc...
Shame he did not mention Eisenhowers meeting at Holloman airbase in 1955
with alleged Aliens, but still a good testimony.
seeker/reader
3rd May 2013, 23:55
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ceetee9
4th May 2013, 00:42
For those who like to download these videos, here's a YouTube link to it 4CSeWkJvdbQ
Knowrainknowrainbows!
4th May 2013, 01:23
I so appreciate Richard Dolan's compassionate interviewing skill and this gentle man's willingness to speak out.
Thanks for posting!!
KRKR
GoodETxSG
4th May 2013, 02:08
Yes, this is a very important point to consider as I believe the program began WELL before 1947 (OR the Nazi's or even the several other Prior Break Away Civilizations Rise/fall)... As in Roswell was not the beginning of the secret contact and recovery program by any means. The S4 and "Area 51" Show Room's were easier to disclose to certain people that pressed the matter (Who couldn't simply be killed off) than to disclose Space Port's and Star Ship's...
"Ike" and a few other's pushed until they got a few layers into the onion only to be frustrated that there were many many more layers they would NEVER penetrate! These brave people took what knowledge they were able to obtain as well as that frustration to the grave. This is a cycle that has been repeated by people of great power and influence be they Presidents, Senators, Governors or Military since the time of WWII.
This "Disclosure By Us" program is all we have. We will only have access to those few layers of that proverbial "Onion" but maybe with hearings like this... once we get that sucker a pealing it will come completely undone!!! What a shock TRUE DISCLOSURE will be to us all (Us being slaves on so many levels etc...). I think it will take a continuous wave of these types of public disclosure attempts, the new revolution on the expansion of consciousness, the crumbling of the corrupt political and financial institutions, and the exposure of the ancient families, CABAL and Break Away Civilizations to cause the perfect storm of TRUE DISCLOSURE! A PAINFUL/WONDERFUL thing it will be. Many who are not apart of the consciousness revolution will not fair well as it will be a crazy ride.
"ALL THAT IS... So I would Imagine"
(This witness seems very credible to me.)
WOW! Eisenhower was going to invade Area 51 with the First Army to find out what was going on. General (or Retired General) Eisenhower.
That means that the secret government (or the people that some researchers refer to as the Secret Space Program group) was already to a very high level of power in 1958. A high enough level to have kept other presidents in the dark (I assume) and to force Eisenhower to push very hard to get disclosure. I get the sense that the message the envoys were to deliver was received before the envoys arrived at Area 51, and that the Area 51 controllers believed Eisenhower would indeed come calling if they refused to disclose anything.
Very cool testimony.
Dennis
ghostrider
4th May 2013, 12:45
This gentleman has kept silent for almost 60 years... he is 77... wow
InCiDeR
4th May 2013, 13:23
This might be one of the most interesting interviews I've seen in several years regarding the Ufo issue. He didn't overdo anything, just kept it plain and simple... and very trustworthy in my opinion.
The most interesting part was of course Eisenhowers wish to invade Area 51. Probably that was the cause why MJ-12 stopped briefing the presidents. Wonder what would have happened if he actually had invaded Area 51. War against the Aliens and human kind extinct? Total disclosure?
Anyhow, sadly I do not personally believe that any of this testimonies will make any differencies. Mainstream media continue to ridicule the whole thing. Governments have no idea what's really going on, all is in the hands of private companies. They will never let go of their control, too much at stake, they will loose both power and money... oh no, that will never happen!
Flowerpunkchip
4th May 2013, 14:05
Thank you Eyes Wide Open and SkyWizard!!
I'm hoping there's more to come.... surely there's more footage from Richard Dolan. I want to know more even if it turns my world upside down.
Bill Ryan
4th May 2013, 15:01
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I watched this yesterday, and thought Rich Dolan did a pretty good job. Clearly 100% authentic. Like many others, I was rather amazed with the notion that Eisenhower might have been prepared to send in the First Army to Area 51 to see what was really going on. (!)
gripreaper
4th May 2013, 15:40
I don't think any toe's were stepped on, but I do think a super thread should be dedicated to this event and all of the content that is coming out of it. Thanks for posting Skywizard. I would like to see it all in one spot somehow as well on Avalon along with the good people here weighing in.
IMHO
Well, for most of us, disclosure is a foregone conclusion. The fact that the rabbit hole is deeper than we might have previously thought doesn't surprise me. I knew that Russia had a UFO back in the late 30's and that the supposed conflicts between the US and Russia were just part of the elite "divide and conquer" money making war agenda.
What's always been true is that there is one economy and one technology for the slaves, and one hidden "everything" for the elite. Never shall the twain meet. Eisenhower found this out first hand. FE is the only equalizer.
I would be interested in making the UFO disclosure a "unique" thread, once something unique comes out. The underground bases at Area 51, the extraterrestrial cloning and human experiments, the Montauk time warping and mind control experiments, the back engineering of UFO craft, the hidden stellar technologies, the long term deep space programs etc. would need to be brought out to the forefront for the masses, who would most likely never believe such.
Phil Schneider's legacy should never be forgotten.
william r sanford72
4th May 2013, 16:33
i wont be surprised when more and more from this era as they get older and closer to the end of there lives come forward.heavy burden to carry.wonder how many have passed on never breathing a word.also i feel disclosure is already in progress but on a grass roots leval and has been going on for some time.thanks for vid.good work on dolans part.hope the guy can rest now with confession outta the way.invade area 51. wow!!??
Knowrainknowrainbows!
4th May 2013, 16:45
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I watched this yesterday, and thought Rich Dolan did a pretty good job. Clearly 100% authentic. Like many others, I was rather amazed with the notion that Eisenhower might have been prepared to send in the First Army to Area 51 to see what was really going on. (!)
Yes ... that this man indicates Eisenhower was surprised at the extent of the "black program" and said, ..."Better keep this completely secret" ... has me wondering. So, what would the president have done? Besides, not disclosing ... surely he strategized. He was not a quitter ... Fascinating.
KRKR
Chester
4th May 2013, 16:46
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I watched this yesterday, and thought Rich Dolan did a pretty good job. Clearly 100% authentic. Like many others, I was rather amazed with the notion that Eisenhower might have been prepared to send in the First Army to Area 51 to see what was really going on. (!)
It also demonstrates the reality that "a president" (or prime minister or any type of administrative leader guy) is simply a reality show actor who must be managed and can only be given so much information or he would not be able to come across realistic enough for both his followers and haters to take him seriously.
Where did I hear about the 40 or so levels of clearance above the president's?
I would never want to be a president. What a horror to one day realize you must be kept in the dark about so much!
I wouldn't even want to be an official agent of an intelligence organization for many of the same reasons. Information I might be provided to do my job may be of the utmost levels of secrecy, yes... but it would still be compartmentalized both to protect my mind being blown (as if mine could?? hahah but that's another matter) but also to manage my world view such that I would be more predictable in my performance (despite the fact with regards to any specific mission if I am aware of all the objectives or the primary objectives).
I think the best job would be as a contractor. That way, you always walk the fine line of being seen as an asset worth retaining or an asset worth sacrificing.
I mean, when we look at "life," isn't entering into this paradigm the ultimate risk to begin with?
And if you are more than the body (a Spirit that lives on), why take all this so seriously?
I mean, seriously, friends... haha
Can anybody tell us -
What was the reaction from the Congressmen & Women or any others present, to this video ??
Bill Ryan
4th May 2013, 18:07
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I watched this yesterday, and thought Rich Dolan did a pretty good job. Clearly 100% authentic. Like many others, I was rather amazed with the notion that Eisenhower might have been prepared to send in the First Army to Area 51 to see what was really going on. (!)
Yes ... that this man indicates Eisenhower was surprised at the extent of the "black program" and said, ..."Better keep this completely secret" ... has me wondering. So, what would the president have done? Besides, not disclosing ... surely he strategized. He was not a quitter ... Fascinating.
KRKR
I don't have the deep, detailed historical perspective that Rich Dolan does (very few researchers have!), but my strong impression was that Eisenhower was a good man who was pretty much shut out of the picture: hence his famous farewell adress in which he spoke about the dangers of the military-industrial complex.
---> https://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/01/15
That address, given in January 1961, said a huge amount: my interpretation of that is that he felt he had failed to accomplish what he wanted, knew he was shut out, and was issuing a warning. He was not a quitter, but at that point he could do no more.
seeker/reader
4th May 2013, 19:12
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Spellbound
4th May 2013, 20:11
90 hours of testimony?? Giddy up!!
Dave - Toronto
norman
4th May 2013, 20:47
The mathematical equation for reversing gravity, all on a 3 x 5 card !
Yes please !
The mathematical equation for reversing gravity, all on a 3 x 5 card !
Yes please !
Now that would be something. Could change every thing.
Chester
4th May 2013, 21:54
(This witness seems very credible to me.)
WOW! Eisenhower was going to invade Area 51 with the First Army to find out what was going on. General (or Retired General) Eisenhower.
That means that the secret government (or the people that some researchers refer to as the Secret Space Program group) was already to a very high level of power in 1958. A high enough level to have kept other presidents in the dark (I assume) and to force Eisenhower to push very hard to get disclosure. I get the sense that the message the envoys were to deliver was received before the envoys arrived at Area 51, and that the Area 51 controllers believed Eisenhower would indeed come calling if they refused to disclose anything.
Very cool testimony.
Dennis
Some believe that despite there being many reasons to kill Kennedy, the thing that was the final straw was that he was going to tell the public about the aliens. Perhaps the loudest message from the assassination of Kennedy was meant for future presidents. Note: that it would be the military/industrial complex that would want things kept secret and it would also be the ruling elite who control(ed) oil and other conventional power sources including nuclear power. Lastly, it cannot be ruled out the possible point of view of these sub groups within the over all PTBs that the majority of them feel they are doing the right thing for humanity in managing their progress.
It is clearer to me every day, they have it all under complete control and have had it this way as far back as history goes and this includes the histories available in the "private libraries."
That's why I am a lover, not a fighter ever since I woke the hell up. Fight a fight that can't be won? That would be more insane than the choice to incarnate here and now in the first place.
frodo13
5th May 2013, 00:53
Call me nuts but what if the aliens have been running everything from the start? What if all history is a lie and we are in some sort of experiment to see what we will do under all kinds of situtations.Maybe our purpose here is figure out the game to get to the next level.The question is how do we get more players aware that they are in a game.
Ol' Roy
5th May 2013, 04:46
3x5 card !
Why not? Some of the most complex things are right in front of our eyes. Think outside of the box!
Youniverse
5th May 2013, 05:52
Maybe one of you can help me with this one. I love these deathbed confessions, but what about their loved ones that are left behind? Aren't they concerned for their safety? Wouldn't the CIA or somebody say "Sure you're dead anyway, but your wife or son or daughter is still here"?
Mike Gorman
5th May 2013, 07:33
At the outset you would have to say this Gentleman has absolutely nothing to gain from speaking up, apart from relating his story, he is a little past the glamour of intrigue
and the notoriety of whistle blower fame-much like Col. Phillip Corso, having 5 minutes of attention focused on you is hardly a 'pay off' worthy of your last months of life-if that is what
you were seeking? This is really compelling information-and you can just imagine Dwight seething with suppressed rage, and mobilizing the 1st Army to break open the military Industrial complex's
secrets....shame he didn't do just that, we might be in a very different world today. All of this information, and revelation will dissipate into the background of rumor, and urban myth once again,
and those already aware will be a little more aware, and the many who are not certain, but are skeptical will go on being so-this needs to be brought out of the enclave where it is hidden
and broadcast widely.
Willow26
5th May 2013, 14:17
Ah, the power of loyalty (or brainwashing) that encouraged people to keep secrets for generations because "that was the right thing to do". Then, the want to make it right, as we exit this planet. it's a never-ending scenario that propagates this secretive military madness. Few people have the ability to make global changes, and they too operate out of fear. Can we really change this?
Mark (Star Mariner)
5th May 2013, 14:30
Very interesting and informative, thanks. But I'm wary enough by now not to get too carried away, or take anything for granted from a single viewing, or without additional evidence and confirmation.
He actually names Area 51 here several times. My first query would be: was it actually called Area 51 inside these shadowy groups? I would have thought any insider or intimate familiar would use perhaps a different and more specific name for this facility, (such as Groom Lake, or the 'Ranch' is it's been otherwise called by employees) rather than the generic name from an old survey map of the area, a name which has stuck in popular Ufology. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I found it mildly curious that this elderly gentleman would use this term - that, and S-4, which as far as I am aware was coined by Bob Lazar, and I'm not sure if it's been corroborated by any other insider. So is this the first such corroboration? or is he latching onto it to further pedal disinformation?
I hate to come across as a cynic, but one has to ask these questions. It would be irresponsible (and naive) not to.
Initially I wondered how authentic this guy was,
BUT then I decided that RICH DOLAN, LINDA MOULTON-HOWE, and STEVE BASSETT (all with many years of research experience in this subject) must have already extensively checked his credentials and claims, and regarded him as genuine.
BrianEn
5th May 2013, 16:54
Wow, thank you for posting that. I'm really gaining a respect for Dolan now. Always have but seems more so now. I appreciate the man's level-headed fair-minded contributions in the disclosure arena. Lots of good people in there.
bogeyman
12th May 2013, 14:39
I'm always wary of deathbed confessions, don't you think there are other ways they could depart the information without themselves being identified a few years before. Area 51 from what I understand never was an official term and since S4 has been mentioned numerous times, you would of though as soon as this information appeared in the public, they would relocate to somewhere less obvious and change the designation system. If it looks like a classified base, smells like a classified base, then it probably is a classified base and that attracts attention. It all smells like a consistent flow of misinformation with some, maybe, truth there to make it more expectable.
Why wary? What could the guy possibly gain and may still stand to lose if the treatment works and he lives; and then there is his family. Rich Dolan didn't just turn up and interview the guy. They had obviously had prior discussion and isn't it possible that they just naturally started using the same terminology - as we all do sometimes in conversation. You'd have to ask RD. common understanding?
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