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Flash
13th May 2013, 21:01
Mods, I do not know where to put this, so please, put in in the right place.
I think this is an important video and witness that should be seen worldwide. She names people, bring us to places, the full interview will be very thorough I am sure.
Truth is coming out (England, now Holland, US has to follow, every Belgian knows about the lies of their own government by now, etc.), we have to be made aware of what is happening. Truth has to come out so that we can chose our future world.
However, what hit me the most, after the sheer incredible suffering I heard, what hit me the most is her non verbal language.
It is congruent throughout at all times. There is not doubt that woman has lived what she is talking about. Please notice the jerking movements she has, the eyes going left when she remembers, the shoulders position, the vibrations of the voice.
It could also easily be part of Houman's thread.
I will have Freedom Central describe the video in their own words:
Published on May 8, 2013
During Kevin Annett's visit with us here at Freedom Central, we have been contacted by several people with some very interesting stories.
Meet Toos of the Family Nijenhuis, a very brave woman who came to meet Kevin Annett at the event Freedom Central hosted for him. Following of from the disclosure of some very sad but important facts, we immediately arranged for an interview with Toos.
This is an introductory clip of the story. There is almost 3 hours of recorded testimony that will be released shortly as part of the initiative being put in place by ITCCS Holland.
This is truly the most difficult interview we have ever conducted, and Freedom Central was very grateful for Kevin Annett's help in interviewing this very important witness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyrPEu7nk1Q
FraZZleD
13th May 2013, 21:50
I'm thanking you because people need to be aware that this is happening all around the world. The hunting game sounds similar to Cathy O'Brien's hunting game they called "The Most Dangerous Game". The experiences this lady went through sounds so familiar to Cathy's experience. With Cathy it was about creating a "Mind Controlled" victim. You have to have a very strong stomach to learn about these issues. When I first started learning I couldn't handle the information I had to walk away. Then after thinking about it I told myself if I can't stand to hear what happened to these people, how in the world is anyone ever going to be able to stop what's happening. The word must get out some how some way the public must be made aware of this.
I bought Cathy's book about her experiences. I forced myself to stomach the information to be able to spread the word of what is happening. I gave the book to my cousin to read. Her reaction was so bad she could not read the book. She couldn't even talk about what little she did read. The only thing I could say to her was how can people in the world stop this if you can't hear the information. She said she could not do it, it made her sick. I totally understand where she's coming from but someone has to do it. Someone has to get the word out and this must be stopped.
So thank you from the bottom of my heart for being a part of helping those that can't help themselves. This information is very disturbing and some people may not be able to handle it. To those with a very weak stomach. You might not want to listen. To those that feel they want to help by spreading the word please pass this info on.
Sincerely,
FraZZleD
Flash
13th May 2013, 21:57
With today's technologies most kids do not remember what happened to them and therefore are used and abused relentlessly (the ET tech is most probably used by satanists to make sure no ones remember - I have seen another video where the guy says they use a disc. You look at it for 5 seconds and you are completely gone, entirely hypnotizable and at their mercy. It is much more powerful than scopolamine used by CIA in the past) However, the subconscious and the body always remember. It still "screws" those kids life even if remembrance is not at the conscious level.
In the illuminati world, they are also used for their special powers or talents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlhI7WcIBZ4
Earth Angel
13th May 2013, 23:05
its such a shocking and disturbing subject that many people cannot bring themselves to face it, or hear about it......let alone believe it.......and as said above, how can we stop it when no one can bear to even think about it......its truly horrific and I am so proud of Kevin Annett for the work he is doing in this area. He has lost everything to bring this truth out. It says a lot that the Anglican Church of Canada would spend millions to rob him of his job, his family, his children and try to ruin him ......if he was a mad man why go to so much effort to destroy his reputation?
lookbeyond
14th May 2013, 00:11
I'm thanking you because people need to be aware that this is happening all around the world. The hunting game sounds similar to Cathy O'Brien's hunting game they called "The Most Dangerous Game". The experiences this lady went through sounds so familiar to Cathy's experience. With Cathy it was about creating a "Mind Controlled" victim. You have to have a very strong stomach to learn about these issues. When I first started learning I couldn't handle the information I had to walk away. Then after thinking about it I told myself if I can't stand to hear what happened to these people, how in the world is anyone ever going to be able to stop what's happening. The word must get out some how some way the public must be made aware of this.
I bought Cathy's book about her experiences. I forced myself to stomach the information to be able to spread the word of what is happening. I gave the book to my cousin to read. Her reaction was so bad she could not read the book. She couldn't even talk about what little she did read. The only thing I could say to her was how can people in the world stop this if you can't hear the information. She said she could not do it, it made her sick. I totally understand where she's coming from but someone has to do it. Someone has to get the word out and this must be stopped.
So thank you from the bottom of my heart for being a part of helping those that can't help themselves. This information is very disturbing and some people may not be able to handle it. To those with a very weak stomach. You might not want to listen. To those that feel they want to help by spreading the word please pass this info on.
Sincerely,
FraZZleD
It is such a difficult subject to broach with anyone.There is no-one in my family/inlaws who would want to even "know" let alone watch these vids-the subject is unpalatable,unbelievable just as it needs to be to continue-lb
ghostrider
14th May 2013, 01:14
No matter what country or differences we have on many things, this kind of bull crap should be one thing that unites us and we stop it , dead in its tracks... children deserve our best, our protection, and our unconditional love ... crimes against the innnocent should be dealt with extreme measures ... If you kidnap a child and abuse them sexually , we should hang that individual in public ... and make it the one thing that no one will ever consider doing... the CEO's and the politicians have their bohemian grove death tof compassion ceremony, we should have a re-birth of compassion ceremony and counter that madness ...and a personal commitment to children that NO ONE will ever kidnap them , if we have anything to do about it ...
Carpathian
14th May 2013, 01:56
It still "screws" those kids life even if remembrance is not at the conscious level.
In the illuminati world, they are also used for their special powers or talents.
I don't mean to derail this thread at all, but I was curious as to what you meant by this? Are you saying that the kids are used for their special powers or talents?
Again, I do not mean to change the subject and if this needs to go in another thread please do so.
Thanks,
Carp
Flash
14th May 2013, 05:29
yes Carpathian, for one, often, people's body will react some seconds prior to conscious decisions or realization. You can rely on the body, it knows. Often, when trauma has been occulted to the consciousness, so that the person could pursue a decent living, you will see the abuse in the body expressions, movements, etc.
As for the special powers, I would refer you to an excellent post by AmerZo in "the matrix deciphered" thread, here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56002-Must-Read-The-Matrix-Deciphered-by-Dr-Robert-Duncan&p=649232&viewfull=1#post649232 showing how children are utilised and programmed for their special abilities.
Mulder
14th May 2013, 06:25
This subject is being blown wide open. Here's a very interesting documentary on the "Monster of Belgium"
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Lisab
14th May 2013, 10:09
A friend of mine met a man who was abused by the same peaodiphile ring that Fred and Rosemary West were a part of. He was five years old. His parents were involved and he also endured those "hunts". He could remember once as a child, climbing onto his own rooftop and squeezing washing up liquid onto the slates in a futile attempt to keep his own parents away from him. He is now a heroin addict.
Fred and Rose West were definately satanists. Jim Cairns is writing a book about their links. All the West's victims had finger or toe bones missing - a common trait in occult killing known as the magic hand. There were hundreds more victims, not just 12 and many of them from here in South Wales.
mahalall
14th May 2013, 11:15
Thankyou for sharing and the insight,
On viewing a little parrot on my shoulder whispered,
be wary of the reaction,
(abhorrent,aghast,anger, attachment,addiction)
to stop it's feeding-the nourishment,
learning to observe the reaction without reaction,
dissolving,
hope arose,
for a society to evolve-mature,
maybe it has to recognise it's suffering,abuses
Thanks Lisab,
found myself only yesterday reflecting on how wide the West's abuse went.
p.s One of the oddities of the whole Fred West thing was that they lived next door to a Seven Day Adventist Church (it was like they threw their rubbish over the fence). It was a really odd thing to observe living and working in that city when that whole story broke. One really saw how the structure of the place served their practices. Literally within 200meters of their house was a large young adults education facility and in the other direction was a child's hostel for vunerable children!. Even today, twenty years on from the story breaking, the city centre and the town's greater development could be viewed as a design to concentrate as a hub, meeting ground.
Flash
14th May 2013, 11:22
Thanks Lisab,
for those, like me, who are from elsewhere and not aware of who the West are, here below. Of course, wikipedia does not mention ritual murder and abuse, which is the case in most of these situations. They are not lone crackers most of the time but this is a ritual of an organized deprived religion and abheration, worldwide.
Frederick Walter Stephen West (29 September 1941[1] – 1 January 1995), was an English serial killer. Between 1967 and 1987, he alone, and later, he and his wife Rosemary, tortured, raped and murdered at least 11 young women and girls, many at the couple's homes 25 Midland Road and later 25 Cromwell Street. Rosemary West also murdered Fred's stepdaughter (his first wife's biological daughter) Charmaine, while he was serving a prison sentence for theft. The majority of the murders occurred between May 1973 and August 1979 at their home in 25 Cromwell Street, Gloucester.
The pair were finally apprehended and charged in 1994. Rose West was jailed for life, in November 1995, after having been found guilty on 10 counts of murder. Fred West was never convicted of any murders, however, having committed suicide while on remand 10 months earlier. Their house at Cromwell Street was demolished in 1996 and the space converted into a landscaped footpath, connecting the street to St. Michael's Square.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_West
Flash
14th May 2013, 11:34
Thankyou for sharing and the insight,
On viewing a little parrot on my shoulder whispered,
be wary of the reaction,
(abhorrent,aghast,anger, attachment,addiction)
to stop it's feeding-the nourishment,
learning to observe the reaction without reaction,
dissolving,
hope arose,
for a society to evolve-mature,
maybe it has to recognise it's suffering,abuses
Recognize and stop it. From what I saw in Steven J. Smith article, http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56002-Must-Read-The-Matrix-Deciphered-by-Dr-Robert-Duncan&p=649232&viewfull=1#post649232, very informative by the way, psychics are used long distance to do all king of killings and influencing, even influencing the flow of men to become pedophiles when in higher functions. This is absolutely crazy, from madmen stories, but nevertheless most probably true (Smith is dead following this publication).
We have to be aware of these absolutely gone mad hidden powers and search in our beings how we can be able to do something about it. We do have to stop the dementia somehow.
Step one: clear awareness of what is going on, acceptance to see, for collective wanting to throw up, hoponoonoo or something similar, and then see within oneself what we can do about it.
Thanks for putting this video up here Flash.
I truly believe that child rape and sacrifice is one of the chore mechanisms to create the lack of light in the current power structures that rule our society and I wish with all my heart that the exposure movement that seems to grow at the moment, continues on to unravel all of it and bring opportunity for healing.
Interesting point in the video:
She mentions Prince Bernhard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Bernhard_of_Lippe-Biesterfeld) and
Cardinal Alferink (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardus_Johannes_Alfrink) as two of the members who participated in the hunting games with children.
These were leading figures in the the Dutch society in the second half of the twentieth century.
Prince Bernhard is the late grandfather of the new King of the Netherlands.
He was also founder of the Bilderberg organization.
http://www.prins-bernhard.nl/index21.jpg
Cardinal Alferink was the Arch Bishop of Utrecht from 1955 till 1976
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/Kardinaal_Alfrink.JPG/250px-Kardinaal_Alfrink.JPG
Flash
14th May 2013, 11:48
Interesting that you are mentioning the hunter games in Holland. Why, because I am pretty sure that the very popular book series, THE HUNGER GAMES, which is in fact a HUNTER GAME, and the movie derived from it, are in fact based on reality.
The Hunter games was written by Suzan Collins, living a few miles away from Sandy Hook massacre, a "Collins". Following Jay Parker in the above video post 3, the Collins family tree are generational witches and satanists. They would create and or participate in such hunter games where children are killed, rituals from many generations. Not to say that this Suzan Collins is as such a ritual killer, it may be beside the track, but it still seems a strange occurence that all correspond.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunger_Games
The Hunger Games is a 2008 science fiction novel by American writer Suzanne Collins. It is written in the voice of 16-year-old Katniss Everdeen, who lives in the post-apocalyptic nation of Panem, where the countries of North America once existed. The Capitol, a highly advanced metropolis, exercises political control over the rest of the nation. The Hunger Games are an annual event in which one boy and one girl aged 12–18 from each of the twelve districts surrounding the Capitol are selected by lottery to compete in a televised battle to the death.
The book received mostly positive feedback from major reviewers and authors, including authors Stephen King and Stephenie Meyer. It was praised for its storyline and character development, though some reviewers have noted similarities between Collins' book and Koushun Takami's Battle Royale (1999). In writing The Hunger Games, Collins drew upon Greek mythology, Roman gladiatorial games, and contemporary reality television for thematic content. The novel won many awards, including the California Young Reader Medal, and was named one of Publishers Weekly's "Best Books of the Year" in 2008.
delfine
14th May 2013, 15:47
" All the West's victims had finger or toe bones missing - a common trait in occult killing known as the magic hand." Could you elaborate on this Lisab?
I once met a guy in a psychiatric ward, who talked about him being abused by pedophiles within or in a similar network as Marc Dutroux´s.
I didn´t know what to make of it at that time, bacuase he was rambling quite a bit. But he showed me his hand, and one of his fingers missed a part.
Yes, this is a subject that is very important but also very difficult to deal with. I felt compelled to watch one of the videos, and subsequently felt extremely bad.
By directing attention to this I guess i entered into resonance with it, and this attracted some negative, non-physical beings to my appartment.
Very unpleasant and scary. In dealing with this matter, I think it´s very important that we know how to protect ourselves and keep our resonance high and positive.
I finally overcame it by concentrating on the presence of God inside. But it wasn´t so easy.
I deeply feel for all these children who are victimized in these horrific rituals, and I sincerely hope there is a way to stop this. The only thing I can think of right now, is to pray for these children. As all the legal and political ways apparently are compromised.
Cidersomerset
14th May 2013, 16:34
Thanks Flash this is a massive subject, I've posted some of this on the Jim 'l fix it thread
but this needs to be highlited as much as possible. This abuse seems to cross all cultures and
is world wide. Some is sadistic power torture, others are Satanic, some Elite control
centres that goes back thousands of years..............
for anyone looking in this is an old interview about this...
This is aold vid just shows you how long some researchers have been trying to
get this out, but worth a look for anyone new looking in. In light of recent revolations
This is not as far fetched as the mainstream would have us believe !
Davids has been saying this for years !!
David Icke Ritual Satanic talmud cabal Child Sex Abuse By Elites FED BCE IMF FMI
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Uploaded by hizman on 3 Jan 2011
FULL VERSION, NO PARTS, WATCH IN A SINGLE VIDEO & URL
This program presents the staggering story of human sacrifice and satanic rituals
involving the most famous people in the world. World famous conspiracy researcher
David Icke hosts an interview with Arizona Wilder, formerly Jennifer Greene, who
was programmed and trained to conduct satanic rituals by Joseph Mengele a.k.a.
the Angel of Death from the Nazi death camps of World War II.
Arizona Wilder describes how she conducted rituals in which the Queen, the Queen
Mother and other members of the British Royal Family sacrificed children in satanic
ceremonies. She talks of the same experiences with Henry Kissinger, George Bush,
Bill Clinton, members of the Rockefeller and Rothschild families and a host of the
most famous names in the United States and the United Kingdom. Your view of the
world will never be the same when you hear the revelations of Arizona Wilder and
their shocking relevance in our lives today.
P.S. from the uploader
While my personal Biblical beliefs may not be fully compatible with those of David
Icke, this account along with David's own introduction is very educational and
realistic. After I watched this video for the first time, I spent months processing the
information, doubting its authenticy, and trying to reconcile all the facts with my
theology. My conclusion was that this material was absolutely effective and helpful
if you were to understand the bigger picture of the world we live in.
As for the supernatural phenomena described, you are free to find an explanation
that suits you best. However, I came to find them completely possible, once having
spent some time with practising exorcists who have ministered numerously to
similar victims. Now, I have a much clearer picture of who and what really the
Antichrist is.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50809-How-Jimmy-was-able-to-Fix-it----/page6
Cidersomerset
14th May 2013, 16:49
Quote HOLLY GREIG!!!! Never give up!!!
Definately !!
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David Icke - Red Ice Radio - 03-23-10 - The Hollie Greig Case & Satanic Networks
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Red Ice Radio - Anne Greig & Robert Green - Pt 1 - The Scottish Est. Peadophile Ring & Cover Up
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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50809-How-Jimmy-was-able-to-Fix-it----/page6
Flash
14th May 2013, 16:52
" All the West's victims had finger or toe bones missing - a common trait in occult killing known as the magic hand." Could you elaborate on this Lisab?
I once met a guy in a psychiatric ward, who talked about him being abused by pedophiles within or in a similar network as Marc Dutroux´s.
I didn´t know what to make of it at that time, bacuase he was rambling quite a bit. But he showed me his hand, and one of his fingers missed a part.
Yes, this is a subject that is very important but also very difficult to deal with. I felt compelled to watch one of the videos, and subsequently felt extremely bad.
By directing attention to this I guess i entered into resonance with it, and this attracted some negative, non-physical beings to my appartment.
Very unpleasant and scary. In dealing with this matter, I think it´s very important that we know how to protect ourselves and keep our resonance high and positive.
I finally overcame it by concentrating on the presence of God inside. But it wasn´t so easy.
I deeply feel for all these children who are victimized in these horrific rituals, and I sincerely hope there is a way to stop this. The only thing I can think of right now, is to pray for these children. As all the legal and political ways apparently are compromised.
You are right, one should not enter in resonance with it.
We have to protect ourselves when coming into contact with any dark energies. They count on the fact that we will not, therefore we will get disgusted and sick and will turn our head away. They count on it.
Send love to all these children, past and present, that are caught, get yourself in higher resonance and do ask for higher help. The reason for this thread is for us to stop turning our faces away and do something about it, even if it is only sincerely asking for higher help, while protecting oneself at all time.
The planet shall not be taken by these energies.
Devout christians, catholics, Ickes' followers, Buddhist, Muslims, fringe people, all have seen some form of these international perversions at many levels: in their own church, mosk, temples, synagogues, in freemasons, in corporate organisations, in high level groups such as club or rome or bilderberg, name it. Worldwide.
This is one of the hearts of the beast.
Yuck, Arden is really close to me...so funny on hearing it, my association is "rich 'artist' colony"...they call it that around here. Brings up images of creative community....ugh.
And I remember when that DuPont went nuts, big news in Delaware...obviously, we didn't get insight to mind control and such.
Thanks for those videos Flash, though I am less comfortable now then I was this morning, knowing this is KNOWN to be going on in my own backyard...
Earth Angel
14th May 2013, 20:14
just saw on the itccs.org site that Kevin Annett who helped with the interview in the OP has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.......a well deserved honor.......it can be seen below the video at this link http://itccs.org/
Carmody
15th May 2013, 01:30
With today's technologies most kids do not remember what happened to them and therefore are used and abused relentlessly (the ET tech is most probably used by satanists to make sure no ones remember - I have seen another video where the guy says they use a disc. You look at it for 5 seconds and you are completely gone, entirely hypnotizable and at their mercy. It is much more powerful than scopolamine used by CIA in the past) However, the subconscious and the body always remember. It still "screws" those kids life even if remembrance is not at the conscious level.
In the illuminati world, they are also used for their special powers or talents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlhI7WcIBZ4
In the 60's-70's the programming technique started with the right kind of flashing blue light, as this excites the mind via the conscious-superconscious block, it is part of the basic body programming. it has to do with our basic original bodily origins of vision itself. It is tied to our peripheral vision.
I have to be very very careful here, when we get into these subjects. I cannot even begin to calculate the intensity that hides behind the purposely built numbness.
Do not put one of these people and me in a room. Only one would leave alive.
I like to think that I'm stronger than that, but I'm not sure I could trust it until after the moment actually took place. put that one under: Many lives, many places, many situations. Some of us were very very good at dispatching.
CdnSirian
15th May 2013, 01:37
I have been tracking this topic for several years.
Love to all of you.
Cidersomerset
15th May 2013, 01:52
Children raped by organised grooming gang............
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14 May 2013 Last updated at 18:48
Oxford exploitation trial: Guilty verdicts over child rapes
In a four month-long trial, an Old Bailey jury heard disturbing evidence
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Seven members of a sex grooming ring have been convicted of abusing children
from Oxford.An Old Bailey jury heard six girls were drugged and suffered sadistic
abuse while aged between 11 and 15.The court heard victims were plied with
alcohol and drugs before being forced to perform sex acts. Some had also been
beaten, burnt and threatened.Nine men had denied charges including rape,
arranging child prostitution and trafficking between 2004 and 2012.
Two were acquitted of all charges.
The judge told the guilty men: "You have been convicted of the most serious
offences and long custodial sentences are inevitable."
They are due to be sentenced on 26 June.
Pain and humiliation
The abuse began in Oxford but some of the victims would be later taken around the
country to be offered to other men who were in contact with the gang.
Victim: "I was scared to say no"
The court heard how the men identified vulnerable girls for abuse then groomed
each one of them until they were under the control of the gang. Acts of physical
and sexual violence escalated into using objects to cause pain and humiliation.
The court heard girls were tied up, burnt, suffocated, bitten, scratched and urinated
upon.Jurors were told most of the victims chose to take vast quantities of hard
drugs to deaden their senses, particularly when they knew they were being hired
out to a large group of men for gang abuse sessions that could go on for days.
The victims would return to Oxford bleeding, injured and carrying sexually-
transmitted diseases. One of the victims described being plied with hard drugs and
forced to have sex with strangers while being filmed at the age of 13.On one
occasion she was given so much crack cocaine she could not breathe and was
rushed to hospital.
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Another, who was groomed at the age of 11, said she fell in love with Mohammed
Karrar who raped her, beat her with a baseball bat and forced her to have an illegal
back-room abortion when she was 12-years-old.
She said of her abuse: "At the time I thought it was my choice and it was fine, but
years on I can see I never had a choice. I said 'no' but I didn't have a say.
"It was literally like a normal relationship but I know now it isn't a normal
relationship. I was a child.
"He told me he loved me. He said he would take me to Saudi Arabia when I was 15
and marry me. I believed him at the time."
A number of opportunities to catch members of the gang are believed to have been
missed and prosecutors, the police and social services have apologised for any failings.
Scuffle in court
The jury at the Old Bailey considered the evidence for two-and-a-half days and
returned the following verdicts.
Kamar Jamil was found guilty of five counts of rape, two counts of conspiracy to
rape and one count of facilitating child prostitution.
Akhtar Dogar was found guilty of five counts of rape, three counts of conspiracy to
rape, two counts of child prostitution and one count of trafficking.
Anjum Dogar was found guilty of four counts of rape, two counts of child
prostitution, two counts of conspiracy to rape and one count of trafficking.
Assad Hussain was found not guilty of rape and guilty of two counts of sex with a
child.
Mohammed Karrar was found guilty of two counts of conspiracy to rape, three
counts of rape of a child, one count of using an instrument to procure miscarriage,
two counts of trafficking, one count of assault of a child by penetration, one count
of child prostitution, one count of rape and one count of supplying a class A drug.
Bassam Karrar was found guilty of two counts of rape, one count of conspiracy to
rape a child, one count of rape of a child, one count of child prostitution, one count
of trafficking and one count of conspiracy to rape.
Zeeshan Ahmed was found guilty of two counts of sex with a child.
There was a scuffle in the dock as Ahmed struck out at Mohammed Hussain when
he was cleared of the charges against him.
Mr Hussain was found not guilty of three counts of sex with a child.
Sold for sex
The Old Bailey was told the key members of the group used and abused the six
victims in a systematic and organised sex trafficking ring over eight years until their
arrest in 2012.The court heard how the men identified vulnerable girls for abuse
and then groomed each one of them until they were under the control of the gang.
They were then each either abused by the men themselves, given to their friends
or offered at a price to others who were not on trial. The youngest girl to be
targeted was 11-years-old. The girls were mostly chosen because their unsettled or
troubled lives made them easier to manipulate.
The Crown Prosecution Service said it would look again at its decision to take no
further action over allegations involving the girls between 2005 and 2006.
Baljit Ubhey, chief crown prosecutor for Thames and Chiltern, said: "I think we
could have been more proactive. Of four cases we looked at, in three of those it's
arguable we might have been able to do more.
"I think what these cases have highlighted is that they're probably not isolated
incidents and there's probably more of this activity going on."
'Deep regret'
One of the victims had complained to police twice but no one was charged.
A care home manager, who was later sacked, refused to pay her taxi fare when she
returned after running away and the 14-year-old was driven back to Oxford where
she was raped.
The court heard girls, who had been placed in care by Oxfordshire County Council
for their own protection, would frequently abscond and were caught with older men
by police.
Council chief executive Joanna Simons said: "We are incredibly sorry we were not
able to stop it any sooner.
"We were up against a gang of devious criminals. The girls thought they were their
friends."
Det Ch Supt Rob Mason said: "Thames Valley Police and Oxfordshire County Council
social services deeply regret that this activity wasn't identified sooner and that we
were too reliant on victims supporting criminal proceedings and that they suffered a
terrible ordeal."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-22438623
Carmody
15th May 2013, 16:12
^^ Tough read.
FraZZleD
15th May 2013, 17:14
My son is dating a girl who claims her mother has MPD (multiple personality disorder) She had nothing nice to say about her mother, she really hated her mother. Once I sat down and had a talk to her about how most people that have MPD get that way. She started to listen to me. I told her that her mother had to have gone through horrible abuses to end up that way. It was not her mothers fault that she turned out that way. I told her she should feel sorry for her mother rather than hate her.
She brought her mother over to visit and I could see the different personalities she possessed. She had a little girl personality and a teenager personality that I saw myself. I could see my son's girlfriend has very little patience with her mother when these different personalities come out. I think I finally got through to her about how she treats her mother. The last visit she kept her cool and was kind when her mother changed personalities. I could see she was trying harder to get along with her mother. They also talk more on the phone which is a good sign that she's starting to understand how to better deal with her mother.
She no longer says anything negative about her mother. She's now talking good things about her.
FraZZleD
Flash
15th May 2013, 17:25
My son is dating a girl who claims her mother has MPD (multiple personality disorder) She had nothing nice to say about her mother, she really hated her mother. Once I sat down and had a talk to her about how most people that have MPD get that way. She started to listen to me. I told her that her mother had to have gone through horrible abuses to end up that way. It was not her mothers fault that she turned out that way. I told her she should feel sorry for her mother rather than hate her.
She brought her mother over to visit and I could see the different personalities she possessed. She had a little girl personality and a teenager personality that I saw myself. I could see my son's girlfriend has very little patience with her mother when these different personalities come out. I think I finally got through to her about how she treats her mother. The last visit she kept her cool and was kind when her mother changed personalities. I could see she was trying harder to get along with her mother. They also talk more on the phone which is a good sign that she's starting to understand how to better deal with her mother.
She no longer says anything negative about her mother. She's now talking good things about her.
FraZZleD
From what I read there is a good chance that the daughter has hidden multiple as well. When one generation is submitted to it, the second or third generation is considered as easier to manage and make multiple personalities in order to serve in whatever has been decided by those who mistreated the person and encrusted multiple in them. It may be that the daughter is just not in the age where it shows up yet (it shows up when the programming is starting to brake it seems, not before).
Personally, I think those programming and the whole system is soooooo destructive that I would try to keep away from it if not combating it, when I can. If you read the stuff written by Smith in my post 8, http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56002-Must-Read-The-Matrix-Deciphered-by-Dr-Robert-Duncan&p=649232&viewfull=1#post649232, you understand that once programmed, the rest of the commands are given unconsciously and often in distance, through non physical means.
To tell the truth, I do not know where to start in order to stop this total insanity.
Flash
15th May 2013, 17:37
^^ Tough read.
Tough read all around. Very tough reality for some as well. Depleted hearts and total pain. The toughest part is not knowing what to do, where to start and how it will end up, while keeping hope. Without untimely awakening of the worst from the programming and the misery. This is a case for asking higher beings and higher realities to come down and help, not only asking, but demanding. As well as integrating as fast of possible one's own higher self.
I cannot even phantom what the people caught in this network of insanity live deep down. I do not understand such insanity. Therefore I do not understand our actual world.
Carpathian
16th May 2013, 03:11
yes Carpathian, for one, often, people's body will react some seconds prior to conscious decisions or realization. You can rely on the body, it knows. Often, when trauma has been occulted to the consciousness, so that the person could pursue a decent living, you will see the abuse in the body expressions, movements, etc.
As for the special powers, I would refer you to an excellent post by AmerZo in "the matrix deciphered" thread, here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56002-Must-Read-The-Matrix-Deciphered-by-Dr-Robert-Duncan&p=649232&viewfull=1#post649232 showing how children are utilised and programmed for their special abilities.
Flash,
Thank you for the information, and for the referral to the post from AmerZo. It was not easy reading, but it answered my question. Thank Goodness at least some of these groups have been uncovered and stopped, but I pray that someday soon these actions will become a thing of the past.
Carp
The Truth Is In There
16th May 2013, 11:55
it's safe to assume that things like these have been going on since humanity in its current form was first created. some might say it's the influence of extradimensional entities that "make them do it" but i'm of the opinion that the human vehicle is inherently flawed. it's an experiment gone wrong and should be terminated.
animals don't do things like they are described in this thread to their own offspring (or that of any other species for that matter), which shows how unnatural the behaviour of many humans is (not only with regard to this topic but also many others, e.g. keeping defective members of their own species alive and even allowing them to breed which would normally be prevented by mother nature, thus weakening its own species which inevitably results in degeneration and ultimately extinction.)
I refuse to believe it is "human nature", or a "flaw" that just developed within us.
Creatures capable of doing things like this to human beings are NOT true “human beings”. Like TTIIT said: animals (and most other observed forms of conscious “life”) don’t do this. Normal “humans” don’t do this.
Whoever it is, like Samuel L says in Pulp Fiction: ain't the same ****in' ballpark, it ain't the same league, it ain't even the same ****in' sport.
Cidersomerset
16th May 2013, 17:22
I have been looking at some Saville vids and posting them on that thread..
A couple I 'l post here very disturbing !
Broadmoor Knew Jimmy Savile Was A "Paedophile & A Psychopath".
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Published on 31 Oct 2012
Broadmoor "Knew Jimmy Savile Was A Paedophile".
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Jimmy Savile 'necrophiliac' allegations (BBC interview )
Paul Gambaccini tells story of..........
Scottish Sun journalist braggs at wedding that the press
knew of Savilles unhealthy appitite for sex with the dead.
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Published on 24 Oct 2012
Paul Gambaccini interviewed by Nicky Cambell
Cidersomerset
16th May 2013, 17:43
Nature is beautiful but also cruel !
it's safe to assume that things like these have been going on since humanity in its current form was first created. some might say it's the influence of extradimensional entities that "make them do it" but i'm of the opinion that the human vehicle is inherently flawed. it's an experiment gone wrong and should be terminated
I have some affinity with this, although I don't think the whole human race should be terminated.
animals don't do things like they are described in this thread to their own offspring (or that of any other species for that matter), which shows how unnatural the behaviour of many humans is (not only with regard to this topic but also many others, e.g. keeping defective members of their own species alive and even allowing them to breed which would normally be prevented by mother nature, thus weakening its own species which inevitably results in degeneration and ultimately extinction.)
Not quite true , think of Lions , chimps and many other species that kill the young of rival dominant
male when taking over prides, hunting or raiding etc.....
Graphic scenes of nature at its worst....
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Female lions fighting for their cubs
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Female lions fighting for their cubs close to Mala Mala camp
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Chimps kill and eat enemy chimps, Rate My Science
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Chimpanzee, sometimes colloquially chimp, is the common name for the two extant
species of ape in the genus Pan. The common chimpanzee has an omnivorous diet,
a troop hunting culture based on beta males led by an alpha male, and highly
complex social relationships. Adult common chimpanzees, particularly males, can
be very aggressive. They are highly territorial and are known to kill other chimps.
Chimpanzees also engage in targeted hunting of lower-order primates such as the
red colobus and bush babies, and use the meat from these kills as a "social tool"
within their community.
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Baby Chimpanzee Killed At LA Zoo In Front Of Visitors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67gcv-6ZrtY
Published on 28 Jun 2012
A baby chimpanzee was killed by an adult male chimpanzee inside
their exhibit at the Los Angeles Zoo on Tuesday as visitors watched, zoo officials said.
Cidersomerset
16th May 2013, 17:50
Jimmy Savilles Paedophile Friends Exposed. Watch from 36 minutes in to the video
THE UK COLUMN.................
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Published on 12 Oct 2012
Jimmy Savilles Paedophile Friends Exposed
Royalty. Polititians, Big Stars
Flash
16th May 2013, 18:07
Nature is beautiful but also cruel !
it's safe to assume that things like these have been going on since humanity in its current form was first created. some might say it's the influence of extradimensional entities that "make them do it" but i'm of the opinion that the human vehicle is inherently flawed. it's an experiment gone wrong and should be terminated
I have some affinity with this, although I don't think the whole human race should be terminated.
animals don't do things like they are described in this thread to their own offspring (or that of any other species for that matter), which shows how unnatural the behaviour of many humans is (not only with regard to this topic but also many others, e.g. keeping defective members of their own species alive and even allowing them to breed which would normally be prevented by mother nature, thus weakening its own species which inevitably results in degeneration and ultimately extinction.)
Not quite true , think of Lions , chimps and many other species that kill the young of rival dominant
male when taking over prides, hunting or raiding etc.....
There has been an involontary experiment with a group of baboons. They were their usual society, a bit like human society, were the most aggressive got most of the females, kill competitors babies and young males have to rob sex rapidly not to be caught by the dominant chimps. The colony had a high level of stress, as in most baboons colonies.
THey had to work only 3 hours a day to collect food, therefore the rest of the time was left resting, and making each other miserable.
The scientists wanted to study the stress in these baboons to answer questions about stress impact in western human societies. Identifying stress between stress and place in the societal hierarchy, the top one having everything, machiavelian ones, the lowest rank being the most tortured.
Higher up, low stress hormones, low rankers had increase heart rates, higher blood pressure and higher stress hormone. Correlating with the poorer in our society being the sicker and the clinically depressed.
Baboons do eat meat. On that day, they ate rotten meat. THe dominant baboonss took most of the meat, being dominant, leaving little for the females, less dominant males and kids. Like in our society is you think of PTB.
Of course, the dominant baboons had more of the rotten meat, got much more sick from it and all died. The community was left with softer males and the females and kids. Scientists had measured the level of cortisol in their blood prior to the rotten meat eating, since this group of chimps was already under study for another research. Scientist therefore knew their level of stress, which was high.
After the death of the dominant baboons, who were taking all the food, making war to neighours all the time, killing the kids, beating up other males, the whole level of stress decreased substantially, cortisol levels went way down. The group became joyous, teasing, having fun, building sane relationships, having good sex, name it. THey were happy and surviving better.
THis is a true story. It just tells you how damaging are the 4% of psychopaths in society for the rest of the human colonies and societies. These 4% sociopath are the one taking children, torturing them, having all kind of demented thought for our future as a race. THey have to be stopped and potentially deported from our planet.
This whole video is extremely interesting altogether for the study of stress related to ones poisition in the primate/human hierarchy and sickness related to it.
But from minute 46, the rotten meat experiment starts to be explain where every alpha male was gone, only the good guy remaining, even the teenager males assimilated the new societal style. Same applies to human in a multiple hierarchy system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYG0ZuTv5rs
PurpleLama
16th May 2013, 18:16
I remember, my granny used to say, "Some folks just need killin'."
Cidersomerset
16th May 2013, 18:40
THis is a true story. It just tells you how damaging are the 4% of psychopaths in society for the rest of the human colonies and societies. These 4% sociopath are the one taking children, torturing them, having all kind of demented thought for our future as a race. THey have to be stopped and potentially deported from our planet.
I agree nature is very complex, there is no one answer. Except we suspect power elites have taken it further..
Back to nature....Chimps do hunt and kill monkeys in the wild, but are also loving , and as complex as us.
Natures hippies..........bonobos - make love not war!
There biggest enemy is you've guest it MAN !
For Bushmeat !!
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The real reason you don't see Bonobos on television...
Bonobos have a unique society where sex is kind of
like a handshake. Watch out for rare footage of g-g rubbing!
Bonobos - Doc on sexuality - 1996
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyOZyN88RBU
Uploaded on 20 Jun 2011
The bonobos of Zaire, part of a documentary on sexuality.
They are also gay, incestuous and peadophiles , and could
re wright the Kamasutra.....
Flash
16th May 2013, 18:57
Cider, check my baboon video from 46 minutes on. It really worth it. It could rewrite our own society if we wanted to. And mostly protect children from abuse and mostly from torture.
Furthermore, chimps have patriarcal societies, dominated by male, while bonobo have matriarcal societies, dominated by females. THey have more cooperation amongst the, more fun, and sex all the time. Would you prefer to be a bonobo, or a chimp? May be another lesson here.
Cidersomerset
16th May 2013, 19:22
But from minute 46, the rotten meat experiment starts to be explain where every alpha male was gone, only the good guy remaining, even the teenager males assimilated the new societal style. Same applies to human in a multiple hierarchy system.
Thanks Flash.....The vid illustrates where we still are or being kept imo....
The moral is when we can get rid of the Alpha males and some females , society will be more caring.
'Stress' is a key factor and is why TPTB must keep us under control by fear. Usually
war or disease...After WW11 it was the 'Cold war' and atomic mutual destruction.
After the wall came down in 1990 instead of a peace dividend. The Neo Cons
probably backed by TPTB create 'The War on Terror' to keep the mil ind
complex,corporations and Banksters making money by fear. In the meantime we
are all kept 'stressed' by being economic slaves to the system and dumbed down by
media playtime like game shows, sports, Hollywood ( ok in moderation) not wall to
wall, derived from the MK Ultra projects, to keep us distracted, while keeping the
mainstream media silent by owning them.Buying them up over the last 40 years.....
The internet is the new frontier for information freedom, for how long who knows ??
Its allowed ordinary people like us on forums like Avalon to talk to each other
and realise we are not alone. The vast majorityof people in the world would rather
talk and co operate with each other to solve the problems of the world, than fight
and kill each other. This is what TPTB are themselves terrified of imo as it will
by definition undermine their power and hopefully expose them for what
they are.
seeker/reader
25th May 2013, 13:00
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Flash
26th May 2013, 00:43
Many thanks seeker/reader, I was waiting for their posting, I am happy you caught it for us to be informed. I will come back later after listening.
Carmody
27th May 2013, 00:24
Nature is beautiful but also cruel !
it's safe to assume that things like these have been going on since humanity in its current form was first created. some might say it's the influence of extradimensional entities that "make them do it" but i'm of the opinion that the human vehicle is inherently flawed. it's an experiment gone wrong and should be terminated
I have some affinity with this, although I don't think the whole human race should be terminated.
animals don't do things like they are described in this thread to their own offspring (or that of any other species for that matter), which shows how unnatural the behaviour of many humans is (not only with regard to this topic but also many others, e.g. keeping defective members of their own species alive and even allowing them to breed which would normally be prevented by mother nature, thus weakening its own species which inevitably results in degeneration and ultimately extinction.)
Not quite true , think of Lions , chimps and many other species that kill the young of rival dominant
male when taking over prides, hunting or raiding etc.....
There has been an involontary experiment with a group of baboons. They were their usual society, a bit like human society, were the most aggressive got most of the females, kill competitors babies and young males have to rob sex rapidly not to be caught by the dominant chimps. The colony had a high level of stress, as in most baboons colonies.
THey had to work only 3 hours a day to collect food, therefore the rest of the time was left resting, and making each other miserable.
The scientists wanted to study the stress in these baboons to answer questions about stress impact in western human societies. Identifying stress between stress and place in the societal hierarchy, the top one having everything, machiavelian ones, the lowest rank being the most tortured.
Higher up, low stress hormones, low rankers had increase heart rates, higher blood pressure and higher stress hormone. Correlating with the poorer in our society being the sicker and the clinically depressed.
Baboons do eat meat. On that day, they ate rotten meat. THe dominant baboonss took most of the meat, being dominant, leaving little for the females, less dominant males and kids. Like in our society is you think of PTB.
Of course, the dominant baboons had more of the rotten meat, got much more sick from it and all died. The community was left with softer males and the females and kids. Scientists had measured the level of cortisol in their blood prior to the rotten meat eating, since this group of chimps was already under study for another research. Scientist therefore knew their level of stress, which was high.
After the death of the dominant baboons, who were taking all the food, making war to neighours all the time, killing the kids, beating up other males, the whole level of stress decreased substantially, cortisol levels went way down. The group became joyous, teasing, having fun, building sane relationships, having good sex, name it. THey were happy and surviving better.
THis is a true story. It just tells you how damaging are the 4% of psychopaths in society for the rest of the human colonies and societies. These 4% sociopath are the one taking children, torturing them, having all kind of demented thought for our future as a race. THey have to be stopped and potentially deported from our planet.
This whole video is extremely interesting altogether for the study of stress related to ones poisition in the primate/human hierarchy and sickness related to it.
But from minute 46, the rotten meat experiment starts to be explain where every alpha male was gone, only the good guy remaining, even the teenager males assimilated the new societal style. Same applies to human in a multiple hierarchy system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYG0ZuTv5rs
It's not the tyranny of evil men, it is the good men doing nothing.
That has always been the issue.
Ending tyranny takes good men.
It really is that simple.
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To me, the thing to take away from the baboon experiment/result, is that the genetics of the evil baboons is also ended. Very important.
The sociopath's genetics must be ended. no more sociopaths and no vessel for further growth.
The earth is now in a time and place where over unity energies and all that it implies..is appearing on the world stage.
This means no more room for sociopaths today....and tomorrow. No vessels, no avatars, no genetics for their type to be born into. Total and utter annihilation.
Go learn your lessons some place else. Time's up.
For example, here it comes. over unity engines are now, literally now, taking center stage. Things will be changing fast now. Mainstream press. Once that floodgate opens....
http://phys.org/news/2013-05-rossi-e-cat-energy-density-higher.html
Flash
27th May 2013, 07:19
When the Toos Nijenhuis interview was posted on ITCCS.ORG it mentioned that a full interview with her would be posted at a later time.
It appears as though the full interview has been added/updated to the original post dated May 8th on ITCCS. It is 2:28 long.
I did a search to see if this was added on Avalon anywhere and did not find it. So I am adding it here as follow up to the original post.
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this is a horrendous story of being raped, electrocuted, walking on needles, name it, it is very difficult to listen to. She names people who did this to her, amongst them Lord Mountbatten, The head rabbi of England, Pope Jean Paul 11, Ted Kennedy, she was sold to high up people in Germany, Holland, Scotland, Australia. She was sold by her father and the home doctor of her town. Every minute of it rings true. Her ex husband whom she had met at church, would now abuse her 4 children and sell them as well. All related to the local church somehow. It would be generational abuse and selling. She says there were often other children around being tortured as well, or being hunted.
Her body language is coherent and hold up with what she says. It does ring true.
Flash
27th May 2013, 16:38
Another video of Jay Parker, confirming exactly the same thing than Toos Nijenhuis above, in less descriptive fashion, making it easier to listen. Jay says there is 30 millions core satanists in US today who are the instruments of the Illuminati Elite.
He describes the history of satanism and illuminatis, the tortures and the changes in the brain if provokes in children, making them second hand psychopaths, that the plan is to eliminate 80% of the people, the medical establishment (wrongful death being 50,000 a year), saving the earth and restoring ecology by not having too many humans on the earth, religions (mormons, quakers, etc) and their link to freemasons and to the king of England, William Pen being a warlord, dark occultist working with the energies left by the Indian in USA and with leylines and morphogenetic field.
He recommends EFT (emotional freedom technique) and psyk for subconscious deprogramming/reprogramming of humanity which mind control to a very large extent. He has used these for himself.
He also suggest to spread orgonite around to fight off EMF (electro magnetic frequencies) - since Jiminni's posts I feel an urge to translate the real meaning of acronyms lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euOKBjMkk6I#!
seeker/reader
27th May 2013, 17:39
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Kristin
27th May 2013, 19:03
Here is a great vid on what we can actually do by someone who has been doing a lot as it is with this issue: Kevin Annett
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac_7_v3lGg4
Flash, thank you for keeping this issue alive.
From the Heart,
Kristin
Flash
27th May 2013, 22:14
There is an interview by Mark Passio of a survivor of an Illuminati family. It is listed as WOEIH show #17 on Passio's website podcast page. Click on the link below and scroll down to get to the show.
At the time Jay Parker was still anonymous. But if you listen to the voice and the circumstances described (the town of Arden) it matches Jay Parker (IMO).
It gives more detail (and is very graphic) regarding his account of life in his family.
This site Whatonearthishappening is JUST INCREDIBLE! It is a whole teaching in esoteric knowledge, illuminatis symbology, with cards and drawing supporting every talk, so that we can follow. Just incredible. I bookmarked it, I want to study it.
Edit: show 17: definitely the same guy, you cannot have 2 voices like this lol.
seeker/reader
27th May 2013, 23:11
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Flash
27th May 2013, 23:55
I can't believe it. IN the show number 17, around minute 53, he describes the exact same glass bead that we see in the video of Toos Nijenhuis from Holland, on a site where there must have been ritual and children killing.
They use the exact same methods worldwide to torture children. This is sooooo horrendous, how do we stop this?
Sidney
28th May 2013, 01:42
I dont even know what to say to this. It is so overwhelming that this goes on that it puts one in a state of shock just hearing about it. The grief that I feel for her in unbelivable. I can only pray for her, and send her as much love as I possibly can. god bless that woman and the many many other that have endured the abuse of these animals. These obviously are NOT HUMAN. NOT HUMAN. This is the devils work. I don't know how it can be stopped but any GOD that allows this to happen is not doing its job IMHO. God bless the beautifu souls that have endured this torturous pain. God bless them. Please send them as much love possible.
There is a war going on beyond our belief. Beyond our comprehension. Pleas pray for these beautiful souls.
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Tesla_WTC_Solution
28th May 2013, 02:57
Thank you for this thread.
There was a female Senior Master Sgt. in my unit who would always take the chance to talk about human trafficking.
She always would tell us, to keep our eyes open and report human trafficking.
I am not sure what she saw in the USAF but it was enough to cause her to want to address this issue constantly.
CdnSirian
28th May 2013, 14:31
http://www.innerlens.com/SANDS_OF_SILENCE_Documentary.html Just happened to come across this today. They are still fund raising to finish the documentary.
Very few films about the trafficking get much exposure. To be palatable, they are horrific in theme but very toned down in content. It's overwhelming and no one I know is going to spend 2 hrs watching one. Yet, celebrities contribute to the cause and this has been a career limiting move or killer for some.
It is so horrendously disturbing. It seems like there is nothing one can do with the information except share and pray for a better world.
Black Panther
28th May 2013, 20:09
There is an interview by Mark Passio of a survivor of an Illuminati family. It is listed as WOEIH show #17 on Passio's website podcast page. Click on the link below and scroll down to get to the show.
At the time Jay Parker was still anonymous. But if you listen to the voice and the circumstances described (the town of Arden) it matches Jay Parker (IMO).
It gives more detail (and is very graphic) regarding his account of life in his family.
This site Whatonearthishappening is JUST INCREDIBLE! It is a whole teaching in esoteric knowledge, illuminatis symbology, with cards and drawing supporting every talk, so that we can follow. Just incredible. I bookmarked it, I want to study it.
Edit: show 17: definitely the same guy, you cannot have 2 voices like this lol.
Mark is a cool guy!
Really enjoyed his presentations.
On Red Ice Radio:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39048-Freedom-Tower-instead-of-9-11-collapsed-Twin-Towers&p=455006&viewfull=1#post455006
Another thread about the things he talks about:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39048-Freedom-Tower-instead-of-9-11-collapsed-Twin-Towers
Twinsel
28th May 2013, 22:33
"Joris Demmink, the recently-resigned Secretary General of the Dutch Ministry of Justice has consistently been linked to the sexual assault and trafficking of young boys, both in the Netherlands and abroad."
>>>www.investigatedemmink.com<<< (http://www.investigatedemmink.com/)
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