Andreas Moritz passed away last October 2012

[ThePythonicCow]

From Andreas Moritz - The Mysterious Death of a Legend (Black Seeds) (http://blackseeds1.blogspot.com/2012/10/andreas-moritz-mysterious-death-of.html):




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On October 21st, 2012 at approximately 9am, medical intuitive, Andreas Moritz was reported to have died. The shock wave went through the web with disbelief and great sadness. How could this be? He was so young, 58 years old and worked right up to his death.
More at the above link (http://blackseeds1.blogspot.com/2012/10/andreas-moritz-mysterious-death-of.html).

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From A Loving Tribute to the Life and Work of Andreas Moritz (Ener-Chi Wellness Center) (http://www.ener-chi.com/about-andreas/a-loving-tribute-to-andreas-moritz/):




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In the wake of Andreas’ transition into the realms of Light, we have received many, many messages from his friends and clients around the globe. Since Andreas was such a humble and reserved person, he tended to say very little about himself. So those of us who perhaps knew him the best, thought it would be fitting to create this loving ‘tribute’ as a way of sharing more about the personal life, values and accomplishments of this beautiful, generous and compassionate soul.

Andreas was born in southwest Germany in 1954. As we know from his writings and conversations with him, he experienced several illnesses starting at a young age which eluded mainstream medicine’s ability to resolve. This led him to have a passionate and lifelong curiosity about and interest in alternative and holistic pathways for maintaining and reclaiming vibrant health and well-being.
More at the above link (http://www.ener-chi.com/about-andreas/a-loving-tribute-to-andreas-moritz/)

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From Announcement(Ener-Chi Wellness Center) (http://www.ener-chi.com/about-andreas/announcement/):



Dear Friends,

Since the time of Andreas’ passing, we have received several emails from caring friends, colleagues and clients around the world asking to know more about the cause and circumstances of his crossing over.

It is our understanding that the cause of his death dates back to his serious health problems in early childhood.

At that time, the medical doctors in Germany diagnosed him as having juvenile rheumatoid arthritis and severe arrhythmia, amongst many other medical conditions. Unable to alleviate his ailments, and to the best of our understanding, the doctors did not give him much hope of surviving past his teen years or early adulthood; his life expectancy was short, and this is something Andreas has mentioned in several of his books and interviews.
More at the above link (http://www.ener-chi.com/about-andreas/announcement/)

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Andreas Moritz's presence will remain here on this forum in several threads, including in particular the thread Liver detox (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6528-Liver-detox--from-av1-).

[ThePythonicCow]

Some of Andreas Moritz's books on Amazon:

The Amazing Liver and Gallbladder Flush (Expanded 2012 Edition) (http://amzn.com/0984595449)
Cancer Is Not A Disease - It's A Survival Mechanism (http://amzn.com/097679442X)
Timeless Secrets of Health and Rejuvenation (http://amzn.com/097927575X)
Heal Yourself with Sunlight (http://amzn.com/0979275733)
It's Time to Come Alive (http://amzn.com/0976571528)
Vaccine-nation: Poisoning the Population, One Shot at a Time (http://amzn.com/0984595422)

[lookbeyond]

What a beautiful face Mr Moritz had,and thankyou for the links Paul,-lb

[RunningDeer]

Thank you, Paul. I was not aware of Andreas' passing.


Rest in Peace, Andreas Moritz.
You continue to awaken Light and Health in many.

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[Conaire]

Shocked. Sadened.

Does anyone know the cause?

[TOTHE]

Timeless Secrets of Health and Rejuvenation free eBook
http://j.b5z.net/i/u/7000617/f/Timeless_Secrets_of_Health_and_Rejuvenation_NOV_2007_eBook.pdf

The Liver and Gallbladder Miracle Cleanse free eBook
http://curezone.com/upload/PDF/Save_Your_Life_/THE_LIVER_AND_GALLBLADDER_MIRACLE_CLEANSE.pdf

I have hard copies of these books and also of the one on sunlight healing. Reading eBooks and pdf’s give me a headache.

Paul; I never knew the guy was dead let alone since last October!!!

And Paula; Thank you for this post that got me on to the Rejuvenation book.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9462-Interesting-Free-Books-in-PDF&p=528153&viewfull=1#post528153

[ThePythonicCow]

Does anyone know the cause?
See the Announcement (http://www.ener-chi.com/about-andreas/announcement/) link from my opening post for the cause.

[Daozen]

Shame. It calls some things into question, but an early passing does not necessarily invalidate his health claims...

The wounded healer is a common archetype. He might've died at 38 if he hadn't learnt a few secrets.

If he only helped a few people, it's a life well spent.

[eva08]

His Facebook page is still being maintained with his words of wisdom

[soleil]

thanks for sharing the books and his memory. :)

[ThePythonicCow]

Out of respect for Andreas Moritz, I moved three posts to a split thread Split thread from "Andreas Moritz passed away": anti-veganism comment (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59180-Split-thread-from-Andreas-Moritz-passed-away-anti-veganism-comment#post674714).

[778 neighbour of some guy]

May he rest in peas then.

[conk]

Sad to learn of his passing. I have 4 of his bigger books. Wonderful information. Some are here for reasons and not for a long time. He fulfilled his purpose. Bless you sir!

[Sierra]

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From Announcement(Ener-Chi Wellness Center) (http://www.ener-chi.com/about-andreas/announcement/):




It is our understanding that the cause of his death dates back to his serious health problems in early childhood.

At that time, the medical doctors in Germany diagnosed him as having juvenile rheumatoid arthritis and severe arrhythmia, amongst many other medical conditions. Unable to alleviate his ailments, and to the best of our understanding, the doctors did not give him much hope of surviving past his teen years or early adulthood; his life expectancy was short, and this is something Andreas has mentioned in several of his books and interviews.
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Andreas Moritz's presence will remain here on this forum in several threads, including in particular the thread Liver detox (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6528-Liver-detox--from-av1-).

What a beautiful man ... his eyes simply glow.

Childhood arthritis and severe arrhythmia are no joke. He was fighting his own immune system with a compromised heart. I am amazed he lived to 58.

[goinghome2012]

what a remarkable man in health studies and healing

he has done his duties for this time on Mother Earth , his soul got tired and wanted off Gaia, Ascension

[vilcabamba]

They probably off-d him. He looks so healthy it's hard for me to believe he was ill. I think he was targeted. I seem to notice how people who speak out on the internet all of a sudden are healthy and then get cancer out of no-where. I think people get targeted by the dark forces.

[Soulboy]

I was advised against his liver cleansing by a naturopath who really has the goods in my opinion. He says it is not without danger and there are other ways of accomplishing the same goals that are less drastic for your body. If you care to know, I'll ask him for more detail and post it here

[Hervé]

I was advised against his liver cleansing by a naturopath who really has the goods in my opinion.[...]

See this thread:Liver detox (from av1) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6528-Liver-detox--from-av1-)

Saved me the surgery of my gallbladder, see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6528-Liver-detox--from-av1-&p=552916&viewfull=1#post552916) <---

[Soulboy]

I understand that it's great if it saves you surgery and I whole-heartedly agree that it was a good choice for you, but if one weren't in that late stage, as an act of prevention let's say, there may be milder solutions than this, but I'll get the details and post them here within two weeks when I next see him. Will check out the thread, thanks for that

[ThePythonicCow]

I understand that it's great if it saves you surgery and I whole-heartedly agree that it was a good choice for you, but if one weren't in that late stage, as an act of prevention let's say, there may be milder solutions than this, but I'll get the details and post them here within two weeks when I next see him. Will check out the thread, thanks for that
For now, I'll stick with my reading of Andreas Moritz book The Amazing Liver and Gallbladder Flush (http://amzn.com/0984595449), over someone telling me that someone told them that ... :)

[blufire]

I was advised against his liver cleansing by a naturopath who really has the goods in my opinion. He says it is not without danger and there are other ways of accomplishing the same goals that are less drastic for your body. If you care to know, I'll ask him for more detail and post it here


Thank you soulboy for your post and wise comments from the naturopath.

As a practicing herbalist for many years I have come to be very careful what I suggest to certain clients.

Some have more delicate or compromised constitutions and body systems and do not do well at all with harsh and what we (healers) call ‘heroic’ type remedies and procedures of which Moritz's liver/gallbladder cleanse is.

[Soulboy]

Fair point. I'm not saying anyone should do anything. I was just offering to ask more detail of him, what he sees wrong with Moritz's approach, what he suggests as an alternative and post it for you to consider, that's all.

To you it is only someone, to me it is literally THE most knowledgeable practitioner I have ever had the pleasure to speak to and be seen by. He practises acupuncture, TCM amongst others and has been asked to have someone come in to film a tutorial video on how it's done. Obviously, you don't know him, so he's just a someone to you, I completely understand.

Let me get that info from him and post it. It is NOT my personal opinion. I have tried neither method and don't wanna get into a fight with anyone about this as my medical knowledge is extremely limited, just provide some alternative for everyone to make their minds up about it all, that's all.

I've had mono many years back which came back to haunt me and not one doctor has ever been able to even diagnose what it really was. He knew immediately and has cases like this come in often, all of them exhausted from talking to so many doctors. He cured it very simply, easily and painlessly. Just my personal experience with that guy.

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Thanks, blufire. I agree, everyone has a different situation and perhaps, if you're perfectly healthy, then Moritz's way is just fine, but maybe if you're old and weak or otherwise suffer from issues that could clash with the treatment, then it could potentially have negative effects on you.

It is, of course, impressive to see these stones come out and can easily serve to give the impression that this is great and helpful and it probably is imo, but always good to talk about alternatives, I reckon...

[ThePythonicCow]

Let me get that info from him and post it.
Good :).

[happyexpat]

It's important to read Mortiz's materials carefully before doing the cleanses, as well.

I hope somebody has saved the additional FAQs from his website in case it will not be around anymore. He specifically addressed lots of different illnesses and issues and additional tips regarding them with the cleanses.

He said you can even do the cleanse if you are pregnant, IF you have done it previously. Does not recommend a first-time cleanse during pregnancy. Having done it a few times, I would be willing to do it during pregnancy. I was breastfeeding when I did my first cleanse. The most intense was definitely the first. Then again, I already had a very clean diet (pretty much exclusively organic), amalgam removed, hadn't taken antiobitics or even over the counter drugs in years before my first cleanse, didn't drink fluoridated water, use table salt, had already had a pretty hard core MMS detox few years before, etc., etc.

People who were familiar with the cleanse were amazed at what I passed on my first cleanse. For people who are just getting started detoxing and cleaning up their diet / living, they may have a few cleanses before it gets rough. Still... It is worth it... I've read a lot of stuff lately from people who cleaned up their diet, never detoxed and are dealing with cancer now after being organic and trying to do everything right for 10 years or more.

Detox is important.

[Soulboy]

I understand that it's great if it saves you surgery and I whole-heartedly agree that it was a good choice for you, but if one weren't in that late stage, as an act of prevention let's say, there may be milder solutions than this, but I'll get the details and post them here within two weeks when I next see him. Will check out the thread, thanks for that
For now, I'll stick with my reading of Andreas Moritz book The Amazing Liver and Gallbladder Flush (http://amzn.com/0984595449), over someone telling me that someone told them that ... :)


Here it goes, Paul. To use highly medical jargon in summing up what he had to say: With Moritz's method you don't only flush the bad stuff out, but the good stuff along with it, which then takes a long time to re-build, leaving you open to other potential risks, he said. He said you would have to take additional herbal supplements to regain what you flushed out along with the stones, but I did not ask any more details, since I have no interest in doing Moritz's flush and had other things to deal with in my 30 minute appointment time.

It's a bit like using antibiotics to cure a bacterial infection. You do kill those harmful bacteria, but also those that are only trying to do you a favour. Again, excuse the medical jargon here... ;)

The softer alternative he said would be to use a TCM option that can be spelled in one of two ways, either "Li Gun Ning" or "Li Gan Ning". This website I found is selling it for example, but do your own searching if you're interested and want to know more about it:

http://healingartsandsciences.com/shop/studiocart.php?show=3282&group1=Chinese%20Patent%20Herbs&name=Li+Gun+Ning&page=list

Like I said before, if you're gonna be in trouble or face surgery, then perhaps I would also consider doing the Moritz flush method, but I like prevention by way of a healthy diet and lifestyle in general, supplementing with natural ways of healing like TCM, acupuncture or homoeopathy, but to each their own, of course.

[ThePythonicCow]

Here it goes, Paul. To use highly medical jargon in summing up what he had to say: With Moritz's method you don't only flush the bad stuff out, but the good stuff along with it, which then takes a long time to re-build, leaving you open to other potential risks, he said. He said you would have to take additional herbal supplements to regain what you flushed out along with the stones, but I did not ask any more details, since I have no interest in doing Moritz's flush and had other things to deal with in my 30 minute appointment time.
Ok - thanks for following up.

Is there anyway to learn what "good stuff" I'd be flushing out ?

Just taking some unspecified herbal supplements is rather shooting in the dark ... there are a lot of herbal supplements out there :).

[Soulboy]

Too right, there are indeed a lot of herbal supplements out there. I could ask next time I see him, but will be another month or so before I next see him. You could always try a google for herbal liver supplements or so perhaps or even try your local herbalist or TCM practitioner

[Hervé]

From the late Dr. Hulda clark:


How safe is the liver cleanse? It is very safe (http://www.curezone.com/faq/p/r.asp?a=28,571,2826&s=21&u=1). My opinion is based on over 500 cases, including many persons in their seventies and eighties. None went to the hospital; none even reported pain. However it can make you feel quite ill for one or two days afterwards, although in every one of these cases the maintenance parasite program had been neglected. This is why the instructions direct you to complete the parasite and kidney cleanse programs first.


CONGRATULATIONS

You have taken out your gallstones without surgery! I like to think I have perfected this recipe, but I certainly can not take credit for its origin. It was invented hundreds, if not thousands, of years ago, THANK YOU, HERBALISTS!

This procedure contradicts many modern medical viewpoints. Gallstones are thought to be formed in the gallbladder, not the liver. They are thought to be few, not thousands. They are not linked to pains other than gallbladder attacks. It is easy to understand why this is thought: by the time you have acute pain attacks, some stones are in the gallbladder, are big enough and sufficiently calcified to see on X-ray, and have caused inflammation there. When the gallbladder is removed the acute attacks are gone, but the bursitis and other pains and digestive problems remain.

The truth is self-evident. People who have had their gallbladder surgically removed still get plenty of green, bile-coated stones, and anyone who cares to dissect their stones can see that the concentric circles and crystals of cholesterol match textbook pictures of "gallstones" exactly.

From "The Cure for All Advanced Cancers", By Hulda Clark p. 562

[happyexpat]

Is there anyway to learn what "good stuff" I'd be flushing out ?


You flush out good gut flora. This needs to be replaced. You should be working on replacing good gut flora constantly anyhow. Fermented foods, yogurt, kefir, kombucha tea, etc., etc. From what I understand foods are better than just taking "probiotic pills".

I wouldn't trust a naturopath that would tell me not to do a liver cleanse. They don't get paid if you buy a book and do a flush at home. The only reason I could see to recommend against it is they want you to go under a regimen they supervise.

[ThePythonicCow]

Is there anyway to learn what "good stuff" I'd be flushing out ?


You flush out good gut flora. This needs to be replaced.
A live cleanse flushes out good gut flora ??

I am not very far yet in my reading of Andreas Moritz liver cleanse book, so quite possibly this is just my ignorance speaking ... but I'll be surprised if a liver cleanse does that.

I'll keep my eyes open for evidence that a cleanse does that. Thanks.

[Daughter of Time]

Is there anyway to learn what "good stuff" I'd be flushing out ?


You flush out good gut flora. This needs to be replaced.
A live cleanse flushes out good gut flora ??

I am not very far yet in my reading of Andreas Moritz liver cleanse book, so quite possibly this is just my ignorance speaking ... but I'll be surprised if a liver cleanse does that.

I'll keep my eyes open for evidence that a cleanse does that. Thanks.

A liver cleanse will flush out some friendly bacteria because it causes diarrhea for about 24 hours and diarrhea normally flushes out the good with the bad. However, this is nothing serious as it can be replaced in the following 24 hours after the stones have come out.

The day after the liver cleanse I always double my probiotics, eat kefir and sauerkraut and that pretty much takes care of it.

[Soulboy]

Is there anyway to learn what "good stuff" I'd be flushing out ?

I wouldn't trust a naturopath that would tell me not to do a liver cleanse. They don't get paid if you buy a book and do a flush at home. The only reason I could see to recommend against it is they want you to go under a regimen they supervise.

I would usually tend to agree with you on that, but this guy is a multi-millionaire inventor with no affiliations or desire. He even told me that he will not find this product for me, just told me the name and asked me to get it myself, cutting him out of the revenue cycle on it altogether. He simply has no need to use tactics like that on anyone as the one described above. He treats top dollar lawyers, premier league footballers, olympic athletes and has a 1 month waiting list on his appointments. He's not the type who did a weekend seminar so he can charge people silly money. I fully agree that there are plenty of black sheep out there wearing the title of naturopath (which isn't even that well-protected legally in Germany), but this guy I have the utmost confidence in. He knows where my problems are before I have finished my sentences and is an absolute genius. Half the stuff we talk about would only rais eyebrows with most doctors and even naturopaths and he just knows his stuff. I know, a lot of personal opinion, but I grew up in a naturopath family and can tell good from bad, I believe. Never met any healer with even a fraction of his knowledge. It's always good to be skeptical of anything, obviously. No argument on that one...






The day after the liver cleanse I always double my probiotics, eat kefir and sauerkraut and that pretty much takes care of it.

You honestly believe that busting your entire gut flora can be relieved with 24 hours of Kefir and Sauerkraut? Wow... I'm no medical expert, but there is no shortage of Sauerkraut in Germany and I'm well aware of its benefits in that department and Kefir as well as Ayran are popular drinks here as well thanks to our lovely Turkish population, but re-building after destruction in most cases takes longer than 24 hours. Again, I am no medical expert on anything, but I have my doubts as to the veracity of the statement you made there, sorry. I could be wrong, of course, but it sounds fishy to me, that's all

[Hervé]

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You honestly believe that busting your entire gut flora can be relieved with 24 hours of Kefir and Sauerkraut? Wow... I'm no medical expert...

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Interesting choice of words addressed to someone who has at least tried it... "busting," destruction, etc... from a non-expert...

There is no destruction of the gut flora/fauna like with antibiotics, just a flush of the guts which means some of the good and bad gets flushed and some remain.

Hence it's not a complete rebuild but a restoring to normal balance; totally different than with antibiotics.

[Daughter of Time]

Soulboy!

Your entire gut flora is not "busted out" during a liver cleanse. Only part of it is flushed! And you left out the doubling of the probiotic part which I also mentioned which is of extreme importance in recovering from a liver cleanse.

And how do I know this? I studied with one of the best naturopaths I've ever known who fully believed in liver cleanses and he said that only some of the flora is flushed out during the cleanse, hence he advised replenishing it the following day with a lot of kefir and sauerkraut and advised to keep consuming some kefir and sauerkraut on a regular basis. He also prescribed a daily probiotic and the doubling of the probiotic for a couple of days after a cleanse. This man was more successful in curing diseases of any kind than anyone I've ever known.

[Soulboy]

Like I said, I am no expert on any of this (and not a native English speaker), but in case of doubt I'll go with my naturopath like you go with your's, of course. I'll steer clear of the flush based on the advice I was given and you are free to do it as often as you like. A forum member emailed me after my post yesterday saying that he has had plenty of problems with his liver even after 7 (I think) flushes and he's looking for other solutions as he continues to have problems.

Just like you wouldn't trust a naturopath that advises against the flush, I wouldn't trust one that advises in favour of it, but that's ok. Everyone has their freedom of choice, of course.

I could imagine that this flushing with Epsom salts is pretty aggressive, but that's probably only my ignorance on the issue again. I am not qualified to make absolute statements on that as I have had zero medical training, obviously.

As always and with everything: To each their own

[Hervé]

Like I said, I am no expert on any of this (and not a native English speaker)...

I could imagine that this flushing with Epsom salts is pretty aggressive, but that's probably only my ignorance on the issue again. I am not qualified to make absolute statements on that as I have had zero medical training, obviously.

As always and with everything: To each their own

So, why do you bother mentioning and insist on asserting such things as: "I could imagine that this flushing with Epsom salts is pretty aggressive" when coming from a belief and trust in your guru whereas DoT and I and many others are coming from knowledge and experience?

The same knowledge and experience that has been practiced for 1000s of years (see post # 33 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59153-Andreas-Moritz-passed-away-last-October-2012&p=687723&viewfull=1#post687723) above, in case you missed it) before dodging under the cover of a nonsensical generalization.

[Soulboy]

I didn't mean to enter an all-out forum war with any of you as I'm a pretty peaceful guy and don't think this is important enough of an issue to get all cranky about. I just wanted to provide an alternative viewpoint or a 'nonsensical generalization' as you call it. When I said that I could imagine it's perhaps a little aggressive, I meant that 24 hours of diarrhoea are not likely to be caused by any sort of gentle treatment. If that doesn't sound like an aggressive treatment to you, then we may have different ideas of what is considered to be aggressive. Using the TCM method instead makes the 24 hour diarrhoea seem a bit aggressive in comparison, at least in my ignorant opinion...

I never doubted that Moritz's method works. It clearly does as can be seen from many people's photos of the stones they flushed out.

As for belief and trust in a guru, it's interesting that fingers are pointing at me, while this thread is pretty much a shrine for the unquestioning worship of Andreas Moritz. I do think his liver flush is absolutely great, as I mentioned before, if people would otherwise have to face invasive surgery. In such cases it is a quick and VERY helpful way to avoid it. I did not mean to lessen the status of Andreas Moritz at all, but only mention that there are options.

I'll just keep my mouth shut about this from now on, you keep flushing, I won't, everybody's happy and can continue living a peaceful life. I never meant to insult anyone or your guru, just wanted to mention that there are other ways to achieve the same ends.

[Hervé]

see post # 33 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59153-Andreas-Moritz-passed-away-last-October-2012&p=687723&viewfull=1#post687723) above, in case you missed it

[Daughter of Time]

Soulboy,

No hard feelings!

No reason to war! There's enough war out there!

When I first heard about the liver flush, which was long before I read Moritz's book as I came across his book only a couple of years ago, I didn't do the flush because I thought ingesting 4 tablespoons of Epsom salts would surely kill me! It didn't kill me. I've found it extremely beneficial as it works so fast and after a day or two of recovery I always feel better.

However, if it doesn't sound right to you, then it doesn't sound right to you. If you need help in decongesting your liver, you will surely do it in different ways. May you find a way that works best for you!

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I could imagine that this flushing with Epsom salts is pretty aggressive, but that's probably only my ignorance on the issue again. I am not qualified to make absolute statements on that as I have had zero medical training, obviously.



Not as agressive as surgery obviously, the Epsom salt relaxes the bile ducts so the stones have less problems flushing out lubed by/with the olive oil, yes it will give you the runs, yes some good will flush out with the bad, the good can be replaced just as easy as the bad too, seeing the lumpy green/yellow stones floating in the bowl is very satisfying to me, better out then in. I did some work and have instant results, the healing might take a bit longer, but SEEING results feels really good, you have personally made visible a change in your health in 24 hours. That is most satisfying, I can affect change with 4 tablespoons of Epsom, some cold pressed olive oil and two or three grapefruits, that must be about 10.000 euro cheaper then surgery, I get to keep my organs too.

You will all pardon my French here I assume.

[happyexpat]

Is there anyway to learn what "good stuff" I'd be flushing out ?


You flush out good gut flora. This needs to be replaced.
A live cleanse flushes out good gut flora ??

I am not very far yet in my reading of Andreas Moritz liver cleanse book, so quite possibly this is just my ignorance speaking ... but I'll be surprised if a liver cleanse does that.

I'll keep my eyes open for evidence that a cleanse does that. Thanks.

A liver cleanse will flush out some friendly bacteria because it causes diarrhea for about 24 hours and diarrhea normally flushes out the good with the bad. However, this is nothing serious as it can be replaced in the following 24 hours after the stones have come out.

The day after the liver cleanse I always double my probiotics, eat kefir and sauerkraut and that pretty much takes care of it.

If anybody is really afraid of losing good gut flora, try not having any bowel movements. You lose some every time you have one. LOL

As Daughter and I both said... Fermented foods, yogurt, kefir, kombucha tea, probiotics, etc., etc.

Good gut flora is something you should ALWAYS be replacing regardless of whether you are doing flushes or not.