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bogeyman
20th May 2013, 08:33
It has many names, but does its existence have a specific purpose here in the three dimensional world? Is it a test so we have a choice between doing good or evil, or is his role something very different from what we have been taught? After all it was the early roman Christian church which decided what the book now called the Bible, contained, but what was left out, maybe this holds the key to the real purpose of this spiritual entity?

The Truth Is In There
20th May 2013, 09:28
imo these are three different concepts.

the "devil" is a creation of the catholic church to malign pagan deities and frighten people into compliance.

"satan" is the destructive force opposing "god" as the creative force in the universe.

"lucifer" is the lightbringer. light is knowledge so it is the force that enlightens. if i'm not mistaken "lucifer" in the bible is also referred to as the morning star and in another place "jesus" is referred to as the morning star so both are in fact identical embodiments of the same concept - an enlightened human being.

throwing all three into the same pot and claiming they're "evil" is fooling people because there's no such thing as evil. that's a human concept, a moral misinterpretation of a force of nature, nothing more, nothing less.

if you do "evil" and then "evil" happens to you that is simply the law of attraction at work. the same with "good".

the purpose of spiritual entities is to experience. that's what we do.

Craig
20th May 2013, 09:30
Sometimes I think it is used as an excuse to avoid blame. Ie the devil made me do it. There is true evil on this earth but I think it is man made or reptilian :p

enfoldedblue
20th May 2013, 10:29
I think we all have a bit of everything in us naturally because we are like fractalls of the all. Whatever we externalise/repel and say is not a part of us carries a charge (ie feels scary or attractive). When we can accept that it is just part of the all and re-integrate it into our being the charge ceases, and it becomes just another element like a color in an artist's palette....to be drawn on when and if appropriate. And we are closer to being whole.

We are discouraged from looking at things in this way because there are those who benefit from us not being whole.

naste.de.lumina
20th May 2013, 10:58
Translated by google, so errors may be inevitable.
About the Author:
Rodrigo Romo was born in Santiago, Chile, arrived in Brazil in five years from 6 years and awakened sensitivity psychic communication with the entity SHTAREER. Captures occurred in mental projection and bilocation extradimensional. Receives the contents of the book I AM, The Source of Cosmic Consciousness 7 years old. Book that would be written in 1997.
Met several lines within the spiritualism and esoteric branches of ufology, already had communication with Alcon within the internal steps of your awakening.

More information on their website:
http://www.rodrigoromo.com.br/


THE STORY OF LUCIFER

Conference by Rodrigo Romo.
Sheraton Hotel, Lisbon, February 25, 2005
(Comments in parentheses are Vitorino de Sousa, who made the transcription and adaptation of what was said)
Good night. Thank you for coming.
Well, the topic for today is somewhat critical and problematic as heavy discusses religious aspects:
how Lucifer religious structure penetrates the Earth for over 450,000 years? As is that,
Throughout the history of mankind, many demigods (aliens of various galactic civilizations) - the
called "fallen angels" - were confused with Lucifer who, in turn, was confused with Satan or sect
Baal, the Sumerians? ... The Order of the Black Dragon appeared in the central region of Orion, Rigel in the stele. This
star represents the cradle of the reptilian races, the Dracos, formatted from an essential purpose:
biological survival, mental, and emotional in the worst conditions and geological ambientas of existence.
Let us since the beginning:
Co-creator of our local universe, Nebadon, is Micah (Sananda / Jesus). Astronomy says that our
galaxy (the Milky Way) is located in the quadrant called the 21 galaxies, which is considered a zone
freewill by Star Command. In this quadrant there is a proposed evolutionary multi-racial and multi-national
(There are others) where all living Children have the right to learn to be co-creators with God. In this regard,
Monads Superiors Major Scale, which give rise to our higher self, manifested through a
process of incarnation, by the soul. Hence the fragmentation of souls and the first archetype of "soul
mate "... we spend our lives searching and never encontramos.1 So this quadrant of the galaxy 21 -
governed by Sananda / Jesus - all cosmic beings of the Hierarchies of the Archangels, Seraphim, Cherubim, Elohim,
etc.., expressed purpose of creating not one but several prototypes existential. The name of Sananda started
becoming known, replacing the energy of Jesus, because whenever people remembered
Jesus Christ, they remembered Jesus crucified. Therefore, it was necessary to change this concept for a vision
an entity cheerful and affectionate. But it is the same being.
Under the writings received by pipeline, Nebadon has about 200 billion years. But as such
is possible if the Astrophysics states that our universe is only about 15-22 billion years? That
value is correct but concerns the physical manifestation, palpable, scientists recorded through
techniques that own the physical plane, but fail to capture the other about 90% of matter in the Universe.
What is the greatest enigma current Astrophysics? Is that more than 100 billion galaxies already detected by
Space Telescope Houble represent only 8-12% of the total mass of the Universe. Where's the rest?
It's an invisible energy, which is beyond the physical plane. It appears here that the quantum theory of
parallel realities. Thus, it becomes understandable information received by pipeline, that
Our universe is about 200 billion years, because we are not dealing with an age-related
physicality that we perceive, but with the other parallel planes transdimensional ... that is,
precisely where it operates Shtareer, I was providing these dates.
But ultimately, how we got to Lucifer?
When these 21 galaxies were structured, each received an administrative hierarchy that
do the management and productivity, the level of qualification and the amount of souls to be distributed by
Evolutionary Process. The famous Archangels were distributed to make a general survey of each galaxy, working
with small constellations would be placed where the Project Life. Responsibility for the zone
called "Orion Arm" or "Orion Constellation" was attributed to Lucifer, the Archangel 37 "below" of God
(Micah). It is said, also, that is the Archangel most famous creation. Their function was therefore manage and govern
evolutionary processes of all races belonging to the Orion spiral arm, to which we belong.
Anágora is a neighboring galaxy of our Milky Way, located about 3255 million light years, but has
a regency different. Where did the phrase cosmic "Be fruitful and multiply", it was applied to all
parts of the universe, without exception. So all Spiritual Beings Orders began to procreate. Being
1 - See text of Shtareer "Divine Complement" in http://www.velatropa.com button "Help yourself" link to "Yasmin".
equivalent to Jesus (Micah / Sananda) in Anágora called Anhotak. It is to be of the order of one to Lanonadeck
inhabits the 15th dimension consciousness.2 Also he obviously respected the instruction of the Father: "Be fruitful and
multiply ", and began to multiply in that galaxy, which chose as its center Procreation.
But discovered something fantastic, extremely interesting and very deep: he could "feed" of
emotions and perceptions of their Children. Anhotak had discovered an endless source of "food"
ecstasy and self-growth. So this was a magnificent way (and different!) To co-create, grow and evolve.
And, at first, your kids always ended up returning to it, with all the knowledge acquired through
of experiences throughout their development, since the actual phrase is "Be fruitful and multiply"
but "Be fruitful, multiply and return to Me." But Archangel Anhotak now "forget" the latter
part of the sentence and failed to allow their sons to return to the House of the Father
This is the big difference that separates Anhotak (Galaxy Anágora) Sananda (Milky Way Galaxy).
Why? ... Micah was very clear when he gave this command to all his Archangels: "Be fruitful, multiply
and return to Me so that, together, come to the Father Major. Therefore, the Co-creators who heed
Christ often allow their sons to grow, awaken your consciousness, ascend, to merge the
Source I AM and vanish in Christ Consciousness / Mahatma / Buddha for Universal, which together make the
cosmic transcendence for Higher Spheres.
That's the key. But Anhotak found that it could wait until later! So began herding
races and races, limiting them to the 7th or 8th dimension of consciousness, preventing them from ascending. With this, created
a highly rational, low intuition for the different races could not "get" the
spirituality, thus trapped in the famous Matrix Control. Therefore, the Matrix Control is not the
Earth, comes out, is cosmic and has thousands of years! Then the Beings who are at the service of the proposed
Anhotak life (not reintegrate into Christ Consciousness), believe and act based on what, for
them is real. Although these siblings act in a way that, for us, is improper, are
behave according to what they believe is the truth, and believing that we who are
wrong. When we come to understand this evolutionary form, it becomes easier to accept the
behavior of a non Confederate (not affiliated with the Intergalactic Confederation).
So, that passage in which the "devil" try Jesus, it aims to take the path, is
an attempt to prove the truth of the other (Anhotak) is superior to that of Jesus. It is an ideological confrontation and
political intergalactic! Therefore, the galaxy Anágora became the administrative and legal existential
these races, largely reptilian and insectoid. Why? ...
When a planet passes through any geological process of adaptation, which are the earliest forms of
life that will withstand the elements of geological changes? Insects and reptiles later! Therefore, these
two biological forms of life were chosen purposefully to create the Empires of the super-races and
the superpowers. The reptilians and insectoid have no feelings, because it's not part of your
unique genetic array. Have, however, an enormous intellectual, rational mentality 1,000 times
Human greater than one. The IQ of a reptilian lower level walks by 600 or 700. There is therefore
compared to ours (which hardly reaches 100!). A reptilian upper level reaches an IQ of
2600! But they do not have emotions. So what is the great difficulty of a reptilian? ... Feel! They are
governed (genetically) for logical processes (equivalent to human left hemisphere).
Note: a reptilian is not a killer, is not an evil being, is governed only by behavior and
rationalization different. Therein lies the problem (the bias of Humans versus "bad"). The
ethical and moral values ​​of a reptilian are not like ours ... and looks that we are no model
ethics and behavior! So we have to be careful because our ethics are very questionable.
Once in Brazil, had contact with a city intraterrestrial the Zetas and Grays. When I designed for
I tried to talk to them and question their behavior, they said, "Who are you to question
our behavior? You kill for money. Are capable of killing his own mother for money;
by selfishness destroy the planet who gives food. In our society, we do not kill;
respect life. For us, you (Human) represent a lethal virus that is destroying the planet itself
that feeds you. "If you think about what they said, we find it true: our society
is destroying Mother Earth. We kill ourselves by material goods, do not respect the life of anyone or anything.
So we are in this world situation that will continue while our consciousness was not awakened and
realigned. Their position is quite interesting, although they are considered "non-Confederates." But it is only
because their ethics are totally different from the concept Christic - return to the Light
2 - The Lanonadek Order is an Order of Co-creators Cosmic aliens with the power to co-create the genetic level.
Are the old gods that speak all Escrit URAs, including the Bible.
So, for about 16.7 billion years, the Milky Way, Lucifer together with a regency
Order Lanonadek beings, begins the project to plant life in the universe "astral", 4D to 6D, which
with time and magnetic instability of the Milky Way, would crystallize in the denser levels of 1D to 3D.
This, of course, did not happen overnight, it took a few million years.
The first forms of life to be unwilling to our "Arm of Orion" - the correct name is "Constellation
Satania ", whence derived the name of Satan, who enters the story later - were the marine forms, the
insects and reptiles. The reptilian form, which appeared in Orion with about 713 different species, begins to crystallize
physically - as we understand this concept - there are about 14.3 billion years. The center of this
manifests tion occurs in stars Shaula, Gareb, Spica and Antares, which is the brightest star
constellation Scorpio. We also have other training in the constellation Draco, Rigel in - that was the point
most importantly that formed the great empire of Orion. Basically, the format reptilian and insectoid
exists almost everywhere in the Milky Way, as a matter of natural survival.
The archetype Adamic - as we understand the human Adam - began to reach our Quadrant
Milky Way, at telluric, about 9.8 billion years. Its crystallization physical (3D) would only occur for
7.4 billion years ago a star in the constellation Lyra. This star system, very close to the star Vega, the
26 years light-Earth, was chosen to express the first genetic experiment mixed between Human and
Reptilian to form the famous Draco, about 50% of the genetic pattern reptilian and 50% of the standard
Genetic Adamic, Human.
So far, the plan (coordinated by Archangel Lucifer) went very well. But, in the process,
Lucifer, the administration asked for help from your co-creative work in various star systems (their
"Arm of Orion" or "Constellation Satania"). One of the candidates for this task was the one we know
Satan as a second order Lanonadek Galaxy Anágora, direct son of Anhotak. Lucifer knew
Anhotak and Archangel knew this was a proposal for a different life. But as there was a purpose
similar to the group of 21 galaxies, found that there was no harm in calling Satan.
Who was against this "request"? The Archangel Gabriel. He was the first to realize that this would give
some "glitches"! But no one paid attention because the Greater Plan provided that, in the future, more
what were the problems, everything would eventually resolve. Thus, cosmically, was allowed Satan
come (Galaxy Anágora for the Milky Way), co-create the service of Lucifer. But ... who "would sign" all
that would be done? ... Lucifer! ... Any "blurred" made under it, it would be your responsibility!
So, what did Satan?
He came from an experience of co-creation in which genetically inserted in their creations, from 30 to
50% of negativity. Thus, Anhotak, which fed the energy field of emotional
their children, creating the conditions for that in Anágora, they were highly competitive, surrendered
the confrontation, competition and survival. Lucifer did not value this "small" aspect and gave carte blanche
Satan ... which began to enter in Children of Vega (the Dracos, the mix between Humans and Reptilians) one
genetic makeup of competition and confrontation in the order of almost 60% of negativity, giving rise to
a highly competitive and warrior.
Thus was laid the first seed of war in our sector of the galaxy.
However, it is not in Vegas, but Rigel appears the Great Empire of Orion, by Order
Draconian, with a lower index of negativity, but also by the hand of Satan. When Lucifer
realize what was happening, recognize that an interesting evolutionary proposal: any
soul that embodied those races would try, as much as possible, their potential
co-creation ... for good or for evil (the "famous" free will!). At that time, Lucifer created by
decree quadrant Orion, reincarnation mandatory within the various races, which meant that the
soul learn by suffering or not, according to their choices. Perfect! This process would karmic
ensure the development of all (without losing sight of the Christic reintegration).
It turns out, however, that with the passage of time, Satan solicited to join them linked to many Light Beings, which
began to enjoy the story to create a condition where no more evolutionary ascencionasse (not
reintegration christic), getting stuck to the 7D, donating ectoplasm produced in fear, in anger, in
confrontation, in suffering and illusion (where many of the current human are still!). Then in
terms telúr icos, the famous "vampires" absorb ectoplasm generated by our emotions
negative. It was part of the process that began to emerge an Empire that was a true copy of
Anágora, governed by Archangel Anhotak.
That's when things got out of control and that started the big problem of Lucifer as condescending and out
condone a situation that should have controlled. But he gambled on the idea that this project
allow a much more refined evolutionary path than the existing standard in other galaxies and
other universes. The most interesting is that this knowledge era Council (Superior)
Melchizedek and Council Voronandek! Therefore, when people try to "crucify" Lucifer's
more "people" up there who accepted the challenge. That is the question!
In our quadrant, then begin to form with highly competitive races ... as our society
Earth still shows. Thus, in the course of evolutionary processes, there is the powerful force Astronautics
this Empire, and the problems begin. What happened to European settlement in the Americas (and
other arts of the world) is a replica of what happened in the cosmos: the great clashes began
stellar ... which were described by George Lucas, the film series Star Wars. The Jedi Order and the
Order of the Sith are, respectively, the Knights of Metatron - known as the Knights of
Maitreya - and the Knights of the Order of the Black Dragon. These people with extra physical powers, which
dominated power incarnational existed and formed these empires. Then, in the course of thousands and
thousands of years, many empires have emerged and declined, many wars have been fought, many destructions
planetary level apocalyptic occurred.
However, according to the decree of Lucifer, the souls were still obliged to embody in systematically
diverse races, in order to evolve.
So, Archangel Michael, supported by the fraternities Cosmic Hierarchies, start entering the Project
Avataric in each of these races: Ascended Beings of the Hierarchy Superior, predisposed to embody
within certain races in order to awaken the Christ Consciousness. Lucifer supports the draft
Michael and "invites" several of his men to begin to enter in these races, Order of Avatars
Lanonadek in order to awaken the consciousness of beings by means of religion.
Lucifer is an entity vibrational level from 16 to 18D, which never incarnated on any planet and always
orbited as an Archangel. The issue is that each planet Satania created by Reptilian Order,
had a god named Lucifer or Baal. Thus the name of this Archangel is emerging as cocreator
place, because he was the highest authority of the quadrant!
A parenthesis to say the following:
1) The Hierarchy works Archangelic the spiritual aspect of evolution.
2) The Hierarchy of Elohim works with the stability atomic / molecular bodies, including the physical.
3) The Order Lanonadek (Lucifer) is responsible for establishing the DNA patterns, which crystallize to form
of material life. Geneticists are, so to speak.
So, as a geneticist, the role of Lucifer was co-create. Therefore, it was he who "signed" the documentation
related to these projects. It is considered the Creator God in many planets in our quadrant,
because, in the consciousness of these beings, Lucifer was the author of its biological molds. Therefore, in many
our ancient religions - Atlantis, Lemuria, Sumer, etc.. - Speaking of Baal and Lucifer. To all those people he
was the co-creator race, was the Regency Maximum.
But consider other aspects:
As each planet was evolving and involves the full and the proposed energy of Lucifer, the population
began to create a hologram that entity in your consciousness and the planet. Likewise we
have a hologram of the crucified Jesus, St. Germain and many other beings who know or who
"Heard" - created by our thought forms, which project an energy (capable of forming a
"Image" in consciousness) - the peoples of these planets also created a hologram of Lucifer according
with their beliefs. This resulted in a multi-dimensional hologram of consciousness of Lucifer, the fragmented
religious culture of each people.
This is where the big problem begins. Why?
Because long after the war (as a consequence of the high rate of negative patterns
genetic) climaxed destroying 7 or 8 stars with their planets and populations
- A slaughter absurd. It is then that, for the first time in the known history of our stellar civilizations, the
Intergalactic Confederation intervenes through Shtareer, Michael and other Superior Hierarchies,
preventing physical confrontation and finally putting order into the situation.
In this context, what was it determined?
All beings who had violated the first law "Thou shalt not kill," the second law "Love thy neighbor as thyself
same, "and the third law" respects the free will of others "were closed a major barrier
Frequency (veil) and called their responsibilities restarting the cycle of reincarnations on 37 planets
of exile (including the Earth). This is a temporary exiled, starting a new DNA
containing the hereditary legacy of all great empires (who warred among themselves), end of
time with competitiveness. Thus the DNA of human hereditary land has a charge of 22
Cosmic races who hated each other, for religious reasons, political, etc.. Therefore, as our soul,
during many incarnations, incarnated on Reptilian Race - he could not see the Human Race - was forced to
also incarnate as Human. That is, to put an end to the psychological perception, lived in the past,
competitiveness of a race over another, the soul had to incarnate here, guarding the heritage
Hereditary all races I thought were their enemy.
This was the Grand Plan ... Lucifer also supported.
The truth is that, in principle, do not know the extent to which a soul, with DNA manipulated negatively
could lead to his wickedness. At that moment Galactic history was not known in deeds of wickedness.
Incidentally, no one knew that evil was unlimited. Therefore, the problem existed because Lucifer staked
a project without being cautious, without being properly backed up legally. Lucifer did not know
that could happen. Was unknown. When he addressed the Father and asked him: "What will
happen? "... Micah did not answer! Did not answer because he had never been down here. Micah started from
principle that a divine soul came from God. For more to come down here to play the "duality"
being a good girl sometimes and other times Mazinha, would keep a balance parameter. Therefore, the
imbalance created artificially, through genetics, by Satan and his brothers would never fit on the head of Sananda.
That was impossible. Thus, Lucifer never got a response from the High Command about
what they thought of the project. It is this lack of communication that exposes Lucifer in his writings.
The opponent of the project was Gabriel, because in the long run, will perceive that things are not going to be as easy
as previously thought. But Lucifer thought that would be enough to put a barrier to limit the frequency
process. No one imagined that the thing where he arrived and that our genetic limitations would create
"a bomb" emotional.
Imagine all of us locked in here (in this room) on bread and water, would soon reach despair. It was the
What happened in the cosmos!
That's why each of us is going through this process, living in societies highly rational
and technologically evolved (but with low spirituality). Develop emotional perception
and rational, and learn to respect what we have for granted. So, everything was handled in a
totally unwarranted by intermediate hosts ... whose members also ended up falling in duality
(Having to go to incarnate), followed by having draft Anhotak totally inharmonious in relation
the original draft of the Archangel Michael.
Therefore, there was a segregation energy: the Hierarchies of Light christed orbited upstairs and
other orbiting down here. These, however, were not bad, it was not evil beings, just
have proposed different. Each race, from their point of view, lay in the reason he preached.
However, very often used the war as a way to communicate their values.
It was this way of acting that went out of control.
When did the 37 planets in exile, who is paid the bill? ... Lucifer, for it was he who had signed
the draft!
Here on Earth, with religious manipulation, consider Lucifer as a great Fallen Angel. But who
was his direct collaborator? ... Satan, who was called to Earth, which was close to Rigel (700 light-years
approximately) which had been the largest warlike confrontations. Indeed, Satan had already developed some
projects, as Maldek3 and Niburu, who also had not given a very harmonious result. So due
imprisonment terrestrial beings from 22 races, religions they are formed based on Baal and
Marduk, the names hermetic Lucifer.
It is in these situations face cultural and religious beings begin to emerge Order of Christ (as
Miguel postulated to end the situation satanic). Sanat Kumara, for example, come from Venus is 18.6
million years, based on the famous Terra Blue Brotherhood of Venus, which would eventually become the Brotherhood
White Earth. With the arrival of this entity, the Earth begins a process of evolution through Christ
confronting evolution by pain and terminology of the Sons of Satan. Thus was born a new stage
evolution of the Earth, which begins to appear negative image of Lucifer as a fallen angel. Humanity,
through ritual offerings of black magic, creates an archetype of a false Lucifer 6D because
most of the space beings, sagging or rogue, were 5D and 6D. Then comes the hologram
Lucifer terrestrial 6D, because in fact, he's never been here (3D). Who was imprisoned here was
Satan. And we confuse the two!
Thus, on the astral plane and the Threshold, begins to emerge a hologram of the "devil", formatted by us
by black magic, which wrongly gave the name of Lucifer and other names that refer to
3 - Planet orbiting between Mars and Jupiter. It was destroyed in a nuclear war. Currently known is the "Belt
Asteroids "of our solar system.
Commanders old Stellar aliens trapped on Earth to go through the evolutionary process
incarnational, even in the lower zones in order to correct the deviation inflicted upon mankind by manipulating
gene. So if you format the Thrones of the Threshold - that the religious tradition called "hell." Was
this process that separated the Heaven on Earth, the surface or underground. So many people
scared when they hear the intraterrenos because they think no one is being intraterrestrial be negative.
But that does not existe.4
So what comes of this situation?
There are over 450,000 years start to form empires Umbralinos, say so. The Threshold of Earth and
36 of the other planets are seven dimensions down, each subdivided into seven frequencies,
Threshold levels totals 49 or 49 "hells", each with a specific regency. It was for these various
to negative levels that these beings were subdivided. Thus, the Thrones of Light control of Strongholds
our evolution and the Thrones of the Threshold control to negative developments umbralina. And we are in
middle! So we go up or go down depending on our choices and demonstrations. We can thus
explain the Religions, the Occult, Spiritualism, like Starship Command and the true origin of
Lucifer in this whole context.
As mentioned, the Archangel Lucifer was never on Earth, incarnated or imprisoned; was supervising.
Extraphysically we had a meeting, he gave me to understand that it was frivolous, was a father who did not know
Son put in its rightful place. Been profligate in passing his hand on the head of the Son (Satan) without knowing
that the Son walked congeminar. Therefore, the major flaw of Lucifer was being totally convenient
and having no concern with the detailed process. That was his major flaw. But
"Devil" - as they called it - now recanted before Sananda / Jesus and began to work for the
Great Cosmic Rescue of earth.5
Actually, what happened at the Great Cosmic Game?
When was the climax of the Great Cosmic Confrontation and Archangel Michael intervened, with its fleet by
own without asking anyone order the Chief (Micah / Sananda / Jesus) was named as had happened
something unheard of: an Archangel had intervened in the evolutionary process of the galaxy! That's where the "Old" decides to take the
glasses, drop the stick and say: What is happening? (Laughs). It was then that Micah
realize the magnitude of what it meant to have opened a space called Free Will Universe.
At that time, Shtareer, who was in his universe, called Shinkara, Micah came to bring the archetype
co-creational of Shinkara, who was also a pattern of duality. But, to keep the project structured
this pattern of duality, under the command of Shtareer outside controlled and allowed no more than 15-22%
negativity and competitiveness in the DNA of those beings. When Shtareer knew that Satan and Lucifer were
working with much higher rates, realized that the thing would give problems. Then came talk to Micah.
Actually, Micah never believed in evil of anyone. He could not conceive a Son Cosmic
reached the point of mass destruction architect. From the point of view of a Cosmic Being
that greatness, such a thing does not have nexus, does not make sense, can not exist. It's like telling someone that they see
son's killer. "It can not be! I saw the sunrise! How can it be a killer? "... Jesus, that plane, not
one could conceive that His Son came to the point. Occurs when the Great Intervention and Miguel
other beings, it generates a big problem because Micah not convinced of duality, said: "I'll go down and
physically experience each of these (37) worlds, to know what is this duality that you both
speak. " So who had a heart attack - so to speak - was Gabriel and Metatron, because never in
Cosmic History, a co-creator of that feedback had fallen to a level of 3D, using a biological body
human! There was no record of it. But Micah said he would break the rule because, before creating any
sentence, I understand your Children. So, we created a project avataric in each of these worlds.
Sananda was so decreased in each of the planets 37, not only the earth.
The factor of this process was unprecedented beings renegades Anhotak, Satan and his acolytes, never
believed that the Father himself came to the physical level. That passage in which Satan will the desert
tempt Jesus, Satan had no idea who that is. He supposed he was a son of the High Hierarchy, but
never imagined that it was the Creator Himself. So, the meeting of Satan with Sananda, Now Consciousness
Christ engaged (after Baptism), signified the breaking of all your paradigms.
Like us, Jesus lived in the flesh the great problems of duality, of whom complained. But the
Ascended beings have difficulty understanding our material problems because vibrate in another
4 - See the end of this text what Kryon says on the same subject,
5 - See, at least, their plumbing on the "Help Yourself" from http://www.velatropa.com, link to "Lucifer."
eighth power. That is what happened with Micah to experience Jesus, live. As was also
in 36 other planets, could understand what was happening.
Micah was there that created the concept of Operation Rescue: all souls pass, on a cosmic level, the
dividing the wheat from the chaff, without exception. Operation Rescue would not be a phys ica rescue operation, but
rather a release of energy through the consciousness of each. We will raise ourselves through
consciousness because Jesus found that were typical cycles of decay consciousness (as occurred in
Atlantis and Lemuria). And why? ... For when the Starship Command evacuated the planet, returning to
put people here ... after a while without having learned anything. Therefore, the project has changed and
we have to raise awareness from our own internal processes. Therefore, the convergence
Harmonic, it was stated that the Earth would not be destroyed in a 3rd World War or a cataclysm, as
we believed that would happen. Therefore, the prophecies come until 1985 or 86 and then did not materialize.
If we consider the prophecies of Edgar Cayce, California was to have sunk in 1985. But it did not happen.
Then went to 87, and also did not sink ... returned to defer to 2002 but is still there, because the
Project Earth was changed by divine interference of the Father, in the case Micah / Sananda / Jesus. Thus,
all cosmic archetypes of the Archangels, Elohim, Seraphim, etc.., began performing in the reconstruction of
Earth's electromagnetic grid to regain our true consciousness.
That's when I came across the hologram of Lucifer 6D that until a year and a half ago, did not know that
existed. I know the original Lucifer, but not the hologram 6D formatted by us, because I always
project above 8D. Then I realized that we who create holograms through rituals
of our religious faiths, the astral and telluric. That's how we created the devil, who never existed! We created
a hologram with horns, tail and a trident in his hand ... but we forget that the trident is a scepter of
tive power is the Trinity - the Father / Mother, Son and Holy Spirit - and not a tool of the devil. It is
symbol of Neptune, the Lord of the Seas. But for us, symbolizes what? ... The little fork to poke at our
ass! (Laughs). So it was through the religious beliefs that have created different correlations of Lucifer and many
other deities, for us, represents the devil.
In fact, originally, these demons were what? ... Space beings who did not satisfy the three laws
maximum. This, however, does not mean they are demons, it means they have an awareness and
questionable ethical conduct. The problem is not them, are we, with our fanaticism, we created
those intermediate frequencies negative. So when, after disembodied, we manifest through
psychic process, begun to fight, to offend, to require blood, asking for drink, smoke, etc.. That is,
create a hologram and when discarnate, encorporamo it and we stuck with it. Then, while
not to awaken our consciousness, we are stuck and hence vibrate that energy. Thus,
when we manifest psychically, we demonstrate what we believe to be real.
This is the great problem of the Schools of Magic Umbanda and Candomblé and their correspondences in
world, why not work on the concept of Christ-light, but the concept of money. Each comes
there and pay for them to give a way into your life, using them improperly, said demonic entities,
to imprison people in this line of work. The point is that, unfortunately, many of these people
feed religious concepts and appreciate postures exchange for these "demons" the other plan.
And here we return to talk about the power of Lucifer.
What does "Lucifer"? ... Light, that is made of light! ... So, Lucifer never was a Fallen Angel. Committed
their mistakes, I agree, but not with the intention destructive than people realize. Satan also committed
errors? ... Committed. But because it was taught in the context of a distinct evolutionary pattern.
Want to see a parallel with Humans? ... Imagine a child who, since childhood, attending
Military Academy. She will be taught to obey and follow orders, but to obey, punishment! Grows under this
parameter: "The superior ordered, I fulfill." It happened with Satan, who was raised in an environment
dictatorial. What was disclosed and was his reality. The primordial evil not left him; departed
a number of situations Anhotak created (in Anágora). People ask: "So Anhotak is the devil?" ...
Say he was the pivot of the situation, generated billions of years ago ago. Perhaps even he knew the
scale of what was happening and that it would have. So when the process was created
reincarnational, we spent the cosmic level, to experience various races, various evolutionary processes to
understand what was done in each cycle. We have full recollection of this process reincarnational
otherworldly incarnations of various races.
Well, then, when I met this famous Lucifer 6D (hologram)?
Once, I was called to do a job in the Chilean desert, more specifically in the Moon Valley - the
crater of an extinct volcano, at 2,100 meters above sea level - because of the sacrifices made there in time before the
arrival of the Spaniards. When the ships begin to land (to collaborate at work), confronted me with
6D hologram of Lucifer. How was attuned Shtareer was possible to do what had to be done. Of
Indeed, in the past, they used a hologram of Lucifer for magic rituals. So, in order to free
these souls, at umbralino, I had to do the release and a reinvestment of 7 fractals of Lucifer.
This fractal was arrested and handed over to Shtareer and Miguel, having made their depolarization and release
the elemental that had been used to create it.
And what was that hologram? ... It was what we had used in the past to work magic
black! Every gift, every killing done in the name of Lucifer and Satan, created a hologram energy
evil, imprisons ing all entities that had died in the name of it. So, in order to
liberate these beings, I had to do the depolarization that archetype. Despite having used my body
physicist, who did the work was Shtareer, Michael and Shiva. It was interesting because I noticed that
represented the archetypal energies of hatred, anger and power of the hologram's land "devil." But a hologram
only has the power you give it, for fear. When you leave the frequency of fear,
it has no way to interact with you, because it is an illusion. It's like if you looked
a great caricature of the devil and was afraid. But if you know that it is a caricature without
any reality, the thing has no way to interact with your energy. People who deal with these
negative energies interact with a devil apparent, is your "inner devil" that goes on that line.
In this work, in spite of all we had to face boycotts to stop us reaching the place,
We liberated 15,700 souls who were inside that extinct volcano.
In short, through our religious beliefs, we instigated teluricamente holograms that passed
to feed these energies. That's where almost all lines ritualistic black magic. In the past,
we were forced to go through satanic rituals. There must have been unpleasant, hence our fear
subconscious of the names of Satan and Lucifer. Ie, during the historical terrestrial and extraterrestrial,
we live stages where dictatorships religious empires created by fear and power. And we obviously
acquired experience not pleasant. Hence phobias and traumas in relation to various religious deities. It
where there is still our inner devil. Ie, the unsuccessful experiments generated an archetype of
devil, to which the Church calls Lucifer and Satan. And we accepted this dogma! So the problem is not Lucifer
or Satan, is our information about who is the devil in our lives. What it is
in our existence? The fact is that in our incarnational process, we've all had one foot on the Threshold!
How does the Threshold? ... It's simple, and it is important to know:
The universe is governed by vibrations and frequencies. When we are disembodied to the level of
frequency determines where we are exactly where we stop after
passage. If discarnate with hate, anger and bitterness, in relation to a situation or a person, it creates
a hologram which is crystallized on the other side. We were stuck here and on the other side, and enter into the kingdom
umbralino, which has several different levels of energy. On the contrary, when, disembodied, we commit ourselves to
God and the soul we washed because everything had decided to review during life, ie,
we are quiet, we go to a higher standard. Then, when the person is highly negativada and
a heavy situation, passes across a very low level, and will be served by the same entities
often they see as "new flesh". That person happens to be a slave to "bunch" that existing
frequency, which is governed by an entity negativada.
So these beings umbralinos clearly believe that Lucifer and Satan are the same being, who is the devil! Of
Indeed, the hologram of Lucifer, Satan, or of any one of these beings, but there really is powered by
nodes. So when someone works with the dark side of the Force, in black magic to harm others,
is nurturing beings that vibrate at that energy, they want food, the blood, that corpse to
do what they were asked.
We, therefore, the two sides, the light side and the demonic side, which, unfortunately, most of us
used in the religions of the past. Remember that we have come to offer children's lives to appease the wrath
of God. So, culturally and religiously, we all did killings, because this was allowed by the structures
religious. All we have developed this dark side due to religious culture. Also so we have to
rescue in our planetary consciousness that basically is respect for life, respect for others.
It was this lack of respect that triggered the great wars stellar. (Pointing up) This
is also for you! Each time you disrespect life, we create karma.
Our past meets our present, and the Earth is experiencing a quantum leap stellar.
Kryon says that through Implant Neutralizer, we need to break from the past, anger, guilt,
fear. But, often, the fear comes from experience Extraphysical of past confrontations, something that
is stored in the quantum memory cell. So I need to understand that in my past, for example,
due to a religious belief or race, I thought I had to kill all Dracos because they do not
lent. Even today, in our earthly society, we are at war because of religious disputes,
social, economic and military. People still attack the tail of football teams! So awakening
conscience says we must forgive. But forgive whom? ... The ourselves! And what I have
to forgive myself? ... My fears, derived from bad experiences of the past.
I wrote a lot about Lucifer so we could understand the origin of the lie that was formatted by
religious institutions about him, about Satan and about our own participation in those situations when
practiced black magic because religion allowed. Unlocking the past is simply to understand that
we live in a hologram lizado institutionalized religions of the time. But I freed myself when I realize
that last only has strength when I I empower.
The Starship Command, the Space Brothers - Sirians, Pleiadians, Canopeanos, Martians, Maldekianos,
Rigelians, Vegans, etc.. - They all made the same mistake: egocentricity, power struggles! ... And
all they are charging karma, here on Earth. Why do you think a squadron of giant
Sirians, Pleiadians, Arcturians, etc.. is helping humanity? ... Is it because they are nice? ... No! ...
They are here waiting for our return, the learning that we have to give them, the fruit of our
experiments on Earth. Most of the Space Brothers, who work with us on Earth, are learning
through us. How? ... Telemetry sensory. Imagine a person who is Pleiadian. That
Command Pleiadian person has engaged her teluricamente monitoring it 24 hours a day. Thus, all
she experiences, passes them to the sensory level. Conclusion: the Group will realize the Pleiadian
process of life on Earth. So, they expect that person to leave the earth and return to the Pleiades with
experiences that lived here.
Fifth Fear - Fear of the dark side
Excerpt from Chapter 12 (Nine Fears OS) Kryon Book 9 - The New Beginning.
Now, let's address what they called "the fear of the dark." Here are some information that you know
intuitively: that thing of 'dark side' simply does not exist!
Throughout the history of mankind, in all cultures, Humans related energy
darkness with another entity, other power, which you want to ascend, it all makes for grab them and take them down.
Throughout your childhood, they were afraid of "monsters" and others who were there for you
«Grab» There are 6 who will attempt to force the idea that anyone who does not think in a way, will be captured by
shadowy entities or run the risk of being 'possessed'. This is not true, and never has been! Are
Humans who create their dark side, they have the power of light, as they have the power of the Dark IDAO.
Let me be more specific, as some have asked, "Kryon, it is possible that humans have
a vibration so low that allows them to create obscurity in another person? "
The answer is. Of course it is possible! An example: what happens when you try to find your way
to a certain site of an almost dark? Suddenly, a small light that facilitated the movement ...
disappears .... and soon you are frozen! Now, see: What happens if the "way" trying to find
is your lifeline? Soon begin to feel fear, without being able to get moving! No light suddenly
begin to ask yourself "something else" could be there ... Untie hearing things ... Finally, the fear begins
to possess them. But ultimately, what happened? Well, the light simply went out, you, however, created
conditions so that the fear arose and did their job.
There is Human 'other side' able to send you the darkness? Yes, there ... and there were those who were in
able to do this.
Did not it seem natural, my dear, the ability to choose between darkness and light? Did not
makes sense that consciousness would be limited only could send light? However, here's what also
have to know - this will not continue for much longer! The example we have just to be
horrifying unless those inside the darkness of the house, arrange for additional light.
Look, there is no equality in shades of light, each of which is a power in itself. Can manifest
tint they want, but he who manifest has its own vibration.
Long ago, we informed that the light is active and that the dark is passive. The shades have energies
vastly different when they are in a dark house and open a door, there is darkness
Going out to the outside, the light that enters! What does this teach about the power of the light?
Teaches the nuances of higher vibrational level are more active and more powerful; teaches that it is more
6 - "If you do not eat soup all the bogeyman is coming p'ra take you, you hear?" Says the mother.
easier and faster to generate positive energy. Humans are more accurate to create a low vibration
than to create a higher one.
Consider a house full of people, completely dark. If you get a Lightworker, whole house
lights. To those who are afraid of the dark, I will say this: they are afraid, because they have not
understand your power of becoming a Lighthouse Light can be in the situation more obscure;
may be surrounded by those who - to dozens and dozens - try to involve you in darkness, in
However, one enlightened Human Being invalidate all darkness!
And you admire yourself for we are so excited? Is that tint 'normal' planet during the last
years simply increased level! Since, in your way of thinking linear 3D love to create platforms,
we will help with the following: collectively, this planet has decided to raise the energy cons iderada
"Normal" to another record vibration. That's why you are here, present
and the Network is being ajustada.7 The difference between darkness and light, as well as what is in between, received
increased as never received. And those who continue to create dark feel entertained each
increasingly difficult to find places without light. Understand this? Any individual entity, which
has manifested through the veil, gave you this information: you, dear Human, are able to
create any vibration. In time, almost all had a dark side, so dark that
secrets were hidden for centuries. Did noticed in recent times, any difference with regard to
conspiracies and secrets? In fact, none of it can remain hidden for a long time! Think
that all revelations faced are just coincidences? Since the highest levels
being 'open', secrets and conspiracies longer have 'low vibration' to cling. Not
have, because you illuminate these 'land' with your light! This happens in politics, in business ... until
level of the rulers of countries.8 Now, the theme is: Responsibility. Just the time of 'escondidinhos
'. What this tells you about light and darkness? What about the balance on your planet?
This text may be freely disseminated

7 - This set ended in December 2002.
8 - Note what is happening in Portugal, in a few months here. From 2002, there was indeed an increase
extraordinary regarding the emergence of all kinds of obscure situations and scandals - corruption, pedophilia networks
illegal drugs, prostitution, etc.. In the other direction - but also inserted into this movement "bring to light", since
in January 2003, the Masonic Lodge of the Grand Orient Lusitano opened its doors completely, imagine, and
presented to the Portuguese people with a manifesto of "national mobilization" to assist in the overall recovery of the country.
In fact, amazing. Ah! ... I remembered now! Lords of Reiki and Karuna: This thing keeping secret symbols ... has
days are numbered!

Tesla_WTC_Solution
20th May 2013, 20:52
I was TOLD that Satan/Devil/Lucifer were the same thing,

but I DISCOVERED that Satan/Devil/Lucifer are not the same thing!

Apparently in Judaism, they don't have quite the "devil concept" that Christians suffer under.
To them, kind of like some of the above posters said, "Satan" is a messenger of negative judgment,
or even merely the physical (brutal!) aspect of our mechanical universe,
the matter over which we seek to exert our minds.

Who is Lucifer? It's hard to tell.
I think that used to be a very good thing, which like many names/words/symbols/concept has been borrowed and corrupted by so many cults,
we can barely even tell which way is up and which way is down!

But maybe the best words to be said for Lucifer: "I TEACH".

Flash
20th May 2013, 21:18
Naste, your post is not only translated by google, which often makes topics basically unreadable (I am French, and when I read translations into French from Ènglish, I often do not understand), but furthermore it is a long text with no spacing whatsoever which makes it, by itself, unreadable.

Would you be kind enough to space the writings you post, lots lots of spacing, to make it more accessible to the reader (ouch my eyes, and I get confused because it is a whole bulk text).

Thanks

MariaDine
20th May 2013, 21:45
Great Great Great post Naste :)
The Google translation is not very good , but it's hard to translate all that to English.
Rodrigo comes often to Lisbon. Did you attend his courses ? Cura quântica , etc. . I did :)

JO

naste.de.lumina
20th May 2013, 21:53
Naste, your post is not only translated by google, which often makes topics basically unreadable (I am French, and when I read translations into French from Ènglish, I often do not understand), but furthermore it is a long text with no spacing whatsoever which makes it, by itself, unreadable.

Would you be kind enough to space the writings you post, lots lots of spacing, to make it more accessible to the reader (ouch my eyes, and I get confused because it is a whole bulk text).

Thanks

I understand the difficulty Flash, and I apologize.
I have included the pdf file, see 'Attached Files' in the original Portuguese, maybe if you do the translation directly into French gets better.

naste.de.lumina
20th May 2013, 22:00
Great Great Great post Naste :)
The Google translation is not very good , but it's hard to translate all that to English.
Rodrigo comes often to Lisbon. Did you attend his courses ? Cura quântica , etc. . I did :)

JO

Hello MariaDine.
Glad you liked it.
Not, but I'm struggling to be able to take this course:

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Data: de 17/08/2013 a 18/08/2013
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ghostrider
21st May 2013, 01:12
to me evil is evil no matter what name you put on it ...

MariaDine
21st May 2013, 13:01
Great Great Great post Naste :)
The Google translation is not very good , but it's hard to translate all that to English.
Rodrigo comes often to Lisbon. Did you attend his courses ? Cura quântica , etc. . I did :)

JO

Hello MariaDine.
Glad you liked it.
Not, but I'm struggling to be able to take this course:

17/08/2013 - Método Ascensional Vorononandeck e Melchizedeck 1 em Curitiba
Data: de 17/08/2013 a 18/08/2013
Vagas Limitadas
Local: Curitiba / PR
Contato: Jaqueline Schier E-Mail: curitiba@rodrigoromo.com.br
Fone: (41) 3026.1257 / 9128.3678

You took this?

------------------

Yes , I did :)
But you should do Cura Quântica before the Método.

JO

bogeyman
21st May 2013, 21:44
Well it is all very interesting how history has altered our perceptions regarding the subject matter. The true nature of the devil, lucifer, satan may be diverse and misunderstood, and manipulated by those who had there own agenda throughout history.

donk
21st May 2013, 22:02
For practical purposes, I think of Satan as the top of the pyramid--an anti-life heirarchy that feeds off fear. The exact of nature of the being (if it is only one being) is clouded, but to me there seems to a force whose best analogy is the Sith (of the Star Wars universe), where they get real energy from control, power, domination, fear.

Even the most evil of human beings (Darth Vader) is just sick, lead astray...and redeemable in the sense of forgivable. Real evil would not be forgiven, for "good" to them is relatively the opposite of love/light to us. And therefore, had as may be, it must not be feared, not judged...for without it (and the relativity it's existence allows/creates), there would be no love.

bogeyman
22nd May 2013, 02:27
Some can define lucifer, but what about Satan and the Devil? It seems to be defined as a spiritual evil or opposer of some sorts?

The Truth Is In There
22nd May 2013, 14:28
Some can define lucifer, but what about Satan and the Devil? It seems to be defined as a spiritual evil or opposer of some sorts?

satan is the "opposer" as in "destruction" that opposes "creation". there's nothing "evil" about it, it's a part of life. without destruction nothing new can be created. it's a neverending cycle.

if you want to put a historical/mythical name to the concept of "satan" you could say that yahwe, the god of the jews, is the destructive force and his people embody this force here on earth while the rest of humanity, to varying degress, are the creative force. that's if we limit the concept to human expression. imo there hides in many of the "ruling elite", most of which are self-proclaimed jews or zionists, a reptilian entity. either they're full blood reptilians or these human shells are hosts for otherdimensional reptilians. in the end what matters is that people need to realize who is the human expression of the destructive force and do something about it if they want to stop that destruction (of the human race, the environment etc.). ultimately it's just a game but right now the destroyers are winning because they have brainwashed most people.

mrchunkytown
28th May 2013, 03:56
Lucifer "the light bearer" was gods first general basically, he became jealous of humans bc we have a soul and angels like him do not. he rounded up some followers, other angels that were jealous, and attacked god thinking he could overthrow his power and become god himself, but he could not, and so god cast him and his followers to hell for eternity. only after he was cast to hell by god did he become known as Satan or the devil which is just a title for Satan. They are all the same person, he has dozens of other names and appearances as well, Satan can take any form, his favorite is a loved one that has recently passed away. That is the story that i know and was told. and as for you people on here saying that Satan is just something made up to explain the destructive force of nature and such, and to scare people, you know they say "the devils greatest trick ever was convincing the world that he doesn't exist". and i just wanted to say, that im not necessarily saying any of you are wrong, im just saying maybe you're dissecting it too much. that problem happens a lot oddly enough. i have an open mind about a lot of things but one thing i know for sure exists is the embodiment of evil, Satan, and the one true God. and im not trying to say that Satan is behind all the evil in the world, dont get me wrong, the world is so ****ed up because people made it that way, but i will say, that maybe, Satan helped influence some people to make it that way...

Energy Alchemist
28th May 2013, 17:35
Hummm, Wars in Heaven. This is a misconception started by humans. The "As it is above so it is below" was reversed to mean we fight therefore Angels fight too. What is an Angel? One definition could be "a Divine Being which is in perfect balance." If this were true then how would a perfect Being have an Ego attack and rebel against God? This is humans putting human attributes on the Divine. The term "a vengeful God" is another one, this is humans seeing God in "their own image." God is Love. Not just love but unconditional love. As humans we can barely conceive of unconditional love let along feel it. It would take a balanced Ego to know unconditional love and we've got too much baggage for that.

The Devil was a creation of human consciousness and the church to control the masses as was the concept of Heaven and Hell. The ability of the thought form known as the devil is very limited. As with all thought forms "fear" is their biggest tool, if someone fears them, they've won. Fear extinguishes the Light, drops it to zero. The best protection ever conceived of is knowledge, knowing the power we have as Angelic Beings shines the Light on the darker energies of duality. When we shine Light into the darkness the darkness is no longer there, it can not exist in the presence of Light. Several "Lightworkers" have asked me "Why do these things keep following me?" It's simple really, those Lightworkers fear the dark energies and in so doing have limited their own Light.

Lucifer; Is there a Being named Lucifer? We are the ones that hang names on them, they don't have name tags, "Hi I'm Michael." Every being has a name which is sung in Light, we just label then to tell one from another as far as we're concerned.
At an open healing a well known local channeling teacher asked me to come over to the table she was working at. She told me the woman on the table had an open portal to a dark place within her. (I knew the story as I'd already done some clearing work with this woman, the woman had prayed to the devil as a joke, not so funny after all) I stood next to the table and had three seconds notice I was going to Channel then in came a strong rush of energy, we made a few hand motions then the energy made an exit. The teacher was standing there with eyes like half dollars looking at me saying "it's closed." The Being gave the name of Lucifer, this could have been a spiritual test to see if I'd freak out. Was it really Lucifer? A good question, "whoever" that energy was, they were very respectful.

Satan; Guidance says "Satan is a mythological creation of humans." Take that for what it's worth.

Another1
28th May 2013, 18:20
"whoever" that energy was, they were very respectful.

when asking questions on my own on this topic, the response was from something as you say, 'very respectful' - I was led to use the bible to investigate the crimes it committed and how nervous it made the committee advising 'god' about the pesky humans getting too smart and working together ... fretting, "... they will become like us ..."

As an independent travelllar, I was amazed at how much superstition was programmed into me on this topic and how patient 'something' has been with me since I began listening. Was not a book or physical human teacher or cult-led ritual to open this door ...

At one point I felt the message, "I was a Lightbeing before they gave me that name and wrote me into their legends."
A year later the message began to evolve into, "I'm more of a 'what' than a specific 'who' - locked in a prison of fear and lies.

Tesla_WTC makes comment above,:

But maybe the best words to be said for Lucifer: "I TEACH".

I know that the wise ones say we're not supposed to seek outside confirmation for important things but it's still fun when you get it and a few of the posts here have shown me that others are free of the superstitions also. It's been 2 years since opening this door and accepting a form of non-intrusive friendship from something that holds our soveriegnty as a priority and our willingness to love after all this hell as a miracle.

Energy Alchemist
28th May 2013, 23:09
I've been writing a blog posting for several weeks talking about the "misconceptions we have come to accept as truth." The Bible was written by people channeling the information. This does not make it perfect. As a Channeler I understand we all have "filters" which cloud the information we receive. That aside the Bible has been changed many times by men who were not channeling for the purpose of controlling others.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not against the Bible, I was raised Catholic but I ran away as fast as I could. It's only that I think organization is the worst thing which ever happened to religion, without vigilance it leads to decay.

I agree the best source of information we'll ever have comes from within us. I've grown up hearing the stories about the Devil, wars in Heaven, Heaven and Hell plus how God will get you if you don't behave. These all seem to promote fear which keeps us "in our place" rather than our becoming our Divine selves knowing the Love which is ours from God.

mrchunkytown
29th May 2013, 03:57
my apologies, i did get it a lil wrong in my post about the war in heaven. its been a while since ive been to sunday school and all lol. but anyways, pretty much all that we have been discussing on this thread can be answered by reading the non-canonical book of the Bible, The Book of Enoch. it explains how all the "fallen" angels was banished from heaven and who Lucifer is.
One of the only churches on the planet that allows this book to be taught as part of the bible is the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, some of the most Christian people on earth. its also rumored that's where the arc of the covenant is...