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mojo
21st May 2013, 00:17
Just imagine how much the military invests on camouflage and blending in. Mainly because it works. Could also postulate that other highly evolved & advanced races visiting our planet would do likewise, trying to blend in and not cause a major disturbance with the populance. One excellent technique would be to look like our commercial aircraft. Even after the volumes of evidence there is still much skepticisim about this use of mimicry. In a recent UFO montage it was surprising to learn even UFO reporters (name witheld @ the examiner) immediately jumped to the conclusion it is is one of our aircraft because of a blinking light. The famous Guardian footage of an UFO landing in Canada shows blinking lights yet it still seems a far reach for many people. And, skeptics love to jump at the chance to point this fact out.

So, this thread is really about fact finding. There is a concern that the majority will not see mimicry as a viable alternative and therefore would never accept the second type of mimicry which is utilizing sound.

RMorgan
21st May 2013, 00:36
Hey mojo,

Well, I have no problem with this hypothesis; If they have such advanced technology, they could very well choose to mimic our vehicles or even become completely invisible to our naked eyes.

The problem begins when UFO fanatics start pointing to all regular airplanes saying they are disguised UFOs, I mean, pretty much like chemtrail fanatics end up believing that every regular contrail is a chemtrail.

So, if they can mimic our aircraft to the point of becoming indistinguishable from them, is there any observational criteria that we could use to discern one from another?

If there´s no way to develop a discerning criteria, then where can we draw the line that separates belief from fact, eliminating the personal bias factor? In what circumstances we could say "this is definitively an airplane", "this may be an UFO disguised as an airplane" and "this is definitively a UFO disguised as an airplane"?

Pretty complicated stuff...

Raf.

MadMax1
21st May 2013, 00:49
I know what you mean about the UFOs blending in i have read and watched videos about more and more UFOs using the red green and white light pattern and it does seem that they are mimicing aviation lights of our aircraft. I was watching a video last week of footage shot on the outskirts of mexico city. The ufo had the red green and white lights on it but moved in an unusual pattern compared with a normal aircraft. The man filming actually filmed a large passenger jet that was flying near by as a comparisen and you could see the difference then of the movement and the way the lights looked. I would be interested if others have seen anything like this i am sorry i can't remember which video it was i was looking at now but you can find it on the net. And i think if a normal person seen it would think it's just another jet or plane and dismiss it quickly.

Lifebringer
21st May 2013, 00:57
Welcome MadMax1.
They may mimic the light colors by why would they hide themselves. If it wasn't for the military "escort" everytime they show up, we'd probably be on a page or so ahead by now. Imagine 60 yrs. of lying to us, and 100's of years of lying to themselves.

Well I saw one, and I'm satisfied to know, there are others besides us. Lets just hope that like the world being pissed off by America's military interference in other nations governments with puppets and making enemies here, hasn't leaked out into space. You know they've recorded a shot fired out by the space station and it was picked up on CNN with Larry King's show, but hasn't gone any further than America's short attention span.

You Tube had it. Title may be "is there a war in space"

InCiDeR
21st May 2013, 01:11
If we already have stuff like this presented for the public eye, and this was 2009.

Wonder what the military have... for not talking about the aliens!


http://www.spacemart.com/images/invisibility-cloak-bg.jpg

Next Generation Cloaking Device Demonstrated

A device that can bestow invisibility to an object by "cloaking" it from visual light is closer to reality. After being the first to demonstrate the feasibility of such a device by constructing a prototype in 2006, a team of Duke University engineers has produced a new type of cloaking device, which is significantly more sophisticated at cloaking in a broad range of frequencies.(...)
Source/read more (http://www.spacemart.com/reports/Next_Generation_Cloaking_Device_Demonstrated_999.html)


http://www.technologyreview.com/sites/default/files/legacy/optical_cloak_ii.jpg

Carpet Cloaks Bring Invisibility to the Optical World

(...)Now Michal Lipson and pals at Cornell University, and Xiang Zhang and buddies at UC Berkeley, say that they have both built cloaks that are essentially mirrors with a tiny bump in which an object can hide. The cloaking occurs because the mirrors look entirely flat. The bump is hidden by a pattern of tiny silicon nanopillars on the mirror surface that steers reflected light in a way that makes any bump look flat. So anything can be hidden beneath the bump without an observer realizing that it is there, like hiding a small object under a thick carpet.(...)
Source/read more (http://www.technologyreview.com/view/413308/carpet-cloaks-bring-invisibility-to-the-optical-world/)

MadMax1
21st May 2013, 01:14
I agree with you Lifebringer about the government firing at them Micheal Schratt said in one of his videos that the US military has weapons pointing at them and are able to track them and shoot them down. I know lights would not fool the military as to the origin of the craft but it would fool people on the ground that might report it to officials if one slipped by these satelites and tracking systems they have. What do you think about that? is it possible that's why they are doing it i am only a new comer to the whole cover up thing and only been researching it in depth for about 2 months. I Believe in UFOs and i believe aliens exist since i was a kid there is to much evidence to deny it and i am thrilled to have people to talk to about this that don't think i am a crack pot.

mojo
21st May 2013, 01:47
Hi Raf,
It's nice to see your response, and true when the distinction between aircraft and UFO is so blurred, then at that point it does not make sense to present it as evidence. The comments generated in a video montage is what prompted me to share a counterpoint and perhaps see if others would be open to the idea. I have a new piece of footage but never posted public based on how I thought it would be received and the sound would instantly convince some to jump to a conclusion yet the morphing lights show something different. So its an issue I'm currently dealing with. Thanks again...:)

InCiDeR
21st May 2013, 01:50
... and if they can mimic our vehicles... why don't take it a step further... mimic us?!

mojo
21st May 2013, 02:00
Thank you InCiDer it would be the next logical conclusion to make, and maybe offer George Van Tassel's excellent interview as he shares how they are walking about with us.

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Hervé
21st May 2013, 02:06
The other side of "chameleon" camouflage:



What I didn't see in the sky that makes it SO Important!

Hello Everyone:

In 1997 I was visiting my parents in Mesa, Arizona in the winter months. It was March 13, 1997. For those that live or have been to Mesa and surrounding area it's absolutely beautiful. This particular day my father was making fresh sqeezed orange juice. My mother was making toast. I was reading the paper at the kitchen table. ( I know I probably should have been doing breakfast of my parents but my folks said not to do anything while visiting. I tried to live their rules but must confess I did take to keeping the apartment neat and tidy while there. )

There was a large french door right beside the kitchen table looking out into the back yard. The sun was the only thing in the sky that morning since there wasn't a cloud in sight. It was approximately 9:30 AM and I was eating my toast and enjoying the freshed squeezed orange juice!

Something began to happen that I have never seen before and have never seen since. The ground began to shadow over outside and the apartment with the french doors blinds open began to get dark as if there was an eclipse taking place. I immediately went outside and looked up into the sky. The sky was a brilliant blue as normal but you couldn't see the sun. Something was between us and the sun. In fact it must have been massive because the shadow on the ground covered an enormous area.

What's so unusual about this is that where the sun was it was just blue sky. I yelled at my parents to come outside. I showed them was was so unusual. We all didn't understand what we were seeing as we were standing there looking up into the sky. We didn't understand because there was nothing but blue sky in the sky to look at. The sun was behind something but there was nothing there to see!

After approximately 10 - 15 minutes the sun peaked out from whatever was blocking it's view from us as it passed. We couldn't see anything at all in the sky but blue sky. The only time we could tell something was in the sky was when the sun started to peak out from behind what was completely invisible into the skies blue color.
After leaving all of us bewildered since it was something none of us had ever seen before we were left with all questions and no answers.

For all of us it changed our lives in the sense that we now knew that objects of enormous size could be in the sky and could not be seen. There was no noise whatsoever. There was no wind at all that day. It was just another peaceful day in paradise for us since we live in a very cold climate and come to visit in the winter to get out of the cold weather. Makes the winter a lot shorter!

The story isn't over yet since something of great significance took place over Phoenix that evening we saw on the news while watching TV that night. Apparently there was a massive UFO that was seen by tens of thousands of people in the sky. It hovered with no noise for a long period of time and slowly glided through the sky while people were gasping at this enormous object. Photos were taken of it and it created quite the sensation throughout the USA and wherever the news of this event was shown.

Everyone on the news had said it had just appeared. I say it was in the Phoenix area all day from at least when we didn't see anything but the sun behind some enormous object in the sky that morning that was completely invisible to us. Whatever it was it had the ability to blend into the sky without so much as a crack showing.

Since this took place I have always wondered what could have possibly covered the sky with such a huge shadow and block the sun for 10 - 15 minutes in complete silence. Whatever it was it had the ability to be completely invisible. Amazing to my parents and myself. It's one of life's mysteries that I'll always wonder about!

This is my simple story of what I didn't see in the sky that makes it so important!

chancy

InCiDeR
21st May 2013, 02:45
It is stories like yours Amzer Zo that makes me wonder why they show themselves at all.

Is it to create fear?
They want us to get used to them or know that they are there?
If they are government black op stuff, they want to maintain their Ufo cover story?
Maybe the phenomen is nothing more than our own thoughts manifested?