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Poly Hedra
21st May 2013, 11:33
Disclaimer: I am in no way shape or form a nationalist, hater etc etc. I live in England right now. This is just about the lies we still believe today, that we are still taught in school.

I read an article today on the BBC website. Here it is:
Irish Potato Famine Pathogen Identified
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22596561

Here is an excerpt:
"The failure of the crop in Ireland- which relied heavily on potatoes as a food source - lead to the deaths of about a million people from starvation and disease between 1846 and 1851"
This article has pissed me off I have to say because it is a fact that the Irish were starved, there was enough food.
The sad truth is that Ireland had a lot of food during that time.
The potato blight spread throughout Ireland, it spread from England.
The Englishman was also reliant quite heavily on the potato as a main staple.
The food that was produced in Ireland was shipped to England in vast amounts.

I will be taking quotes from a website:
http://www.irishholocaust.org/voicesinthewilderness

"There were many "Voices in the Wilderness" risking all to stop the genocide. For example; Wexford-born Jane Wilde, mother of Oscar and poetess, wrote under the nom de plume "Speranza," in the United Irishman newspaper the following (verses 1 and 6 printed here) during the depths of 1847 re the British genocidists and the innocents they were exterminating:
 
THE FAMINE YEAR
Weary men, what reap ye? "Golden corn for the Stranger."
What sow ye? "Human corpses that await for the Avenger."
Fainting forms, all hunger-stricken, what see you in the offing?
"Stately ships to bear our food away amid the stranger's scoffing."
There's a proud array of soldiers what do they round your door?
"They guard our masters' granaries from the thin hands of the poor."
Pale mothers, wherefore weeping? "Would to God that we were dead"
Our children swoon before us, and we cannot give them bread!"

"We are wretches, famished, scorned, human tools to build your pride,
But God will yet take vengeance for the souls for whom Christ died.
Now is your hour of pleasure, bask ye in the world's caress;
But our whitening bones against ye will arise as witnesses,
From the cabins and the ditches, in their charred, uncoffined masses,
For the Angel of the Trumpet will know them as he passes.
A ghastly, spectral army before God we'll stand
And arraign ye as our murderers, O spoilers of our land!"

 
Mrs. Wilde evidently knew that British arms controlled every field of Ireland. Small detachments resided as far away as 40 miles from their garrisons shown on the map. The absence of army garrisons in Co. Derry, etc., indicates that its royalist militia adequately reinforced its constabulary. Bayonets, cannons, rifles, the lash, eviction and the gallows were freely used to seize Irish food (on the pretext that it was "the property" of some English "owner"-by-robbery; nearly all of whom were absentees). But Wilde couldn't have known each regiment's identity. We discovered them in the Public Record Office, Kew Gardens, London in 1983 while researching material for my paternal grandfather's biography. It was just as available to Irish government-subsidized authors and academicians. Their Big Lie campaign is shocking. Perhaps this brochure will encourage them to finally tell the truth; that Britain perpetrated a Holocaust in Ireland. ... "

I was told by an Indian girl that it had happened in India too. Will get more info.

Poly Hedra
21st May 2013, 11:38
The Food Removal

"In Belmullet, Co. Mayo the mission of 151 soldiers 5 of the 49th Regiment, in addition to escorting livestock and crops to the port for export, was to guard a few tons of stored meal from the hands of the starving; its population falling from 237 to 105 between 1841 and 1851. Belmullet also lost its source of fish in January, 1849, when Britain's Coast Guard arrested its fleet of enterprising fishermen ten miles at sea in the act of off-loading flour from a passing ship. They were sentenced to prison and their currachs were confiscated.
 
The Waterford Harbor British army commissariat officer wrote to British Treasury Chief Charles Trevelyan on April 24, 1846; "The barges leave Clonmel once a week for this place, with the export supplies under convoy which, last Tuesday, consisted of 2 guns, 50 cavalry, and 80 infantry escorting them on the banks of the Suir as far as Carrick." While its people starved, the Clonmel district exported annually, along with its other farm produce, approximately 60,000 pigs in the form of cured pork."

"On November 14, 1848 3, sailed, from Cork harbor alone: 147 bales of bacon, 120 casks and 135 barrels of pork, 5 casks of hams, 149 casks of miscellaneous provisions (foodstuff); 1,996 sacks & 950 barrels of oats; 300 bags of flour; 300 head of cattle; 239 sheep; 9,398 firkins of butter; 542 boxes of eggs. "

Mulder
21st May 2013, 12:33
I totally agree...
"This article has pissed me off I have to say because it is a fact that the Irish were starved, there was enough food.
The sad truth is that Ireland had a lot of food during that time.
The potato blight spread throughout Ireland, it spread from England.
The Englishman was also reliant quite heavily on the potato as a main staple.
The food that was produced in Ireland was shipped to England in vast amounts."

East Sun
21st May 2013, 12:51
My ancestors survived that conec as did yours. I've read and heard a good deal about it.

It is the 'leaders' or politicians or whoever is actually pulling the strings, that are always at fault. And the gullible ones have to go along. They believe all the propaganda fed to them whether in war-time or not. They were made to feel like they were superior, how things have changed.
Soldiers just follow orders and have no choice just like every soldier everywhere.
Horrendous thing were done. There and around most of the world. What a price for an ugly monarcy. But we see through them now. At last.

northstar
21st May 2013, 13:53
This article has pissed me off I have to say because it is a fact that the Irish were starved, there was enough food.
The sad truth is that Ireland had a lot of food during that time.


Thanks for this information conec.
My Irish ancestors came to Canada from County Cork fleeing famine and I am well aware that the Irish were deliberately starved, tortured and brutalized by the British at that time in history.

kesom
21st May 2013, 13:57
all so very true,our ancestors were starved and put on coffin ships and scattered to the 4 corners of the earth

theirs a good book called eamon de velara englands greatest spy which is a good read

i can remember my history teacher back home telling us that whats wrote in the history books is not the real history of ireland that most of the real history was stored in Leipzig university for whatever reason,i cannot confirm this but it is definately what i was told,maybe someone will be able to shed more light on it
here's a couple of christy moore songs talking exactly about all the food that was shipped out of the country durin the famine

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this is a good film about ireland and how it was secretly controlled

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this is a link to a picture on facebook that says it all pretty clear LEST WE FORGET (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=371344652981664&set=a.369121199870676.1073741828.369103929872403&type=1&theater)

PEACE k :)

Poly Hedra
21st May 2013, 14:56
I never really paid attention to the idea that the people were starved. One day I was speaking to an Indian girl here in London and we ended up talking about the Irish famine, she then explained how there was a famine in India also. The great Bengali famine in the 40's which killed millions of people. She said that the people of Bengal were starved and so were the Irish.

I have been reading articles from all over the web.
It seems that the Irish famine is being described as allowing to continue through the inaction of the government of England and the view as the Irish being savages.

The "Irish nationalists" are the ones who have the opinion that it was genocide. The perfect way to dismiss a claim. IMO.
It is still being denied as a genocide and I guess it will always be that way.

Lifebringer
21st May 2013, 15:10
Native Americans = 1million small pox blankets for the winter
Africans NOW= tainted vaccine and HIV shots
African American Males Servicemen= SYPHLIS
Irish = potato pathogen
American Gay and African American Women = HIV. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxZ7PX8YGI
Sounds like Monsanto has been busy for centuries with their little mad scientist. I bet they all went to the same evil courses in the secret society for this purpose.
Heavenly Divine Father, they must be stopped.
they care not for life, just your bank accts, property, and assets. That's all.

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I know not where my Great Grandmother of Ireland came from either. I do know the fighting Irish is definitely in me as well as the Native American wisdom and African American war drums for protection/defense.

Lifebringer
21st May 2013, 15:27
Rotten bass-turds ate good didn't they?
Gluttony on the backs of the starving masses.

Oh their season is here. Woe, Woe, Woe to the doers and witnesses of this starvation, who did nothing but collect coin or revenge on a farmers.

Earth Angel
21st May 2013, 16:24
another good song about the 'famine' by Sinead O'Connor......its true that there was more than enough food but the Irish were not allowed to eat the other food......that's why so many Irish ended up Australia, they were shipped off as criminals for stealing corn to feed their starving families....as Montague Keen is always saying when the Irish people find out what was really done to them everything will change!

-ZCe8Fw8vyM

northstar
21st May 2013, 16:25
It seems that the Irish famine is being described as allowing to continue through the inaction of the government of England and the view as the Irish being savages.

The "Irish nationalists" are the ones who have the opinion that it was genocide. The perfect way to dismiss a claim. IMO.
It is still being denied as a genocide and I guess it will always be that way.

I am of Irish descent on my mothers side. Her maiden name was a very "Irish" name, which anyone would recognize as Irish. :)
When I was growing up I was told stories of how the Irish immigrants to North America were treated like animals. Many came to North America as indentured servants, little better than slaves. My own Irish great, great grandmother was an indentured servant.

I have never visited Ireland but I love Irish culture, Irish music, and I love the beautiful spirit of the Irish people (and also the awesome accent! hahaha)

Earth Angel
21st May 2013, 16:37
when my parents moved to Canada in the late 50's they would still see signs on some shops and restaurants that said No dogs, No Irish......
The true history of Ireland has been buried......Conor MacDari has a book called The Bible an Irish book that tells the 'true' history of Ireland.......quite shocking to most people
http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/appendices/conormacdari.html

northstar
21st May 2013, 17:51
when my parents moved to Canada in the late 50's they would still see signs on some shops and restaurants that said No dogs, No Irish......
The true history of Ireland has been buried......Conor MacDari has a book called The Bible an Irish book that tells the 'true' history of Ireland.......quite shocking to most people
http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/appendices/conormacdari.html


Yes, that story about the sign on the restaurants correlates with what I was told when I was growing up.

That link is fascinating! I Googled the author and the title of the book but all I could find was pages and pages of "Google book" links, which basically try to get you to buy books. Do you know of any pdfs of the author's works available?

Thanks!!

delaware
21st May 2013, 22:44
Thank you, Conec, for this information, I live in Austria and would never have known all this without your post

Earth Angel
21st May 2013, 23:01
just got this in an email today..........

Is Britain's cover-up of its 1845-1850 holocaust in Ireland the most successful Big Lie in all of history? The cover-up is accomplished by the same British terrorism and bribery that perpetrated the genocide. Consider: why does Irish President Mary Robinson call it "Ireland's greatest natural disaster" while she conceals the British army's role? Potato blight, phytophthora infestans, did spread from America to Europe in 1844, to England and then Ireland in 1845 but it didn't cause famine anywhere. Ireland did not starve for potatoes; it starved for food...


This important book can be downloaded by following the link: http://freemanireland.ning.com/forum/topics/theirishholocaust


Visit Tír na Saor ~ Land of the Free at: http://freemanireland.ning.com/?xg_source=msg_mes_network

greybeard
21st May 2013, 23:07
Scotland suffered greatly too---The clearances.
Many had to leave for a new life in America or Australia.
Chris

Fred Ryan
22nd May 2013, 01:53
Hi,

What about today? The Irish are now the most indebted people on the planet. They owe vast sums of money to European banks that they can't possibly pay back. What kind of impact will this have on the health and welfare of the Irish people for generations to come?

Frankly, it's no longer a matter of starvation but maybe in reality very little has changed in the last 200 years.

mosquito
22nd May 2013, 05:09
This is the sort of thing that triggers a deep rage within me. I'm (nominally) English, and was brought up to believe we were the champions of justice and fair play. When I first learned of the way we betrayed the leaders of the Irish revolution, promising them an amnesty if they laid down their arms, and then hanging them, I was sickened.

Our killing of thousands of women and children in concentration camps during the Boer war is another part of British history that gets skirted over, and most people today are still in denial of it !

What saddens me is that all of these past injustices keep resurfacing and fanning the flames of hatred in young nationalists, who have no recall or understanding of the events in question.

East Sun
28th May 2013, 16:43
"It seems that all the European countries have been screwed over into a
position of debt. The USA owes more than it can ever pay back. "They" the controllers, want us all in dept so as to have us as wage slaves. Nothing has changed--and wont, until we change it. On here we know we need to make every one aware of the status quo.
We are on our way.....

Earth Angel
28th May 2013, 17:36
for those who don't object to channeled material Montague Keen has a lot to say about the hidden history of the Irish.....check out these messages here
http://www.montaguekeen.com/page3.html