Baltic Sea anomaly --- metallic!

[InCiDeR]

Baltic Sea anomaly --- metallic?
The circle is at least 14,000 years old

http://www.expressen.se/ImageHandler.axd?imageFormat=secondColumn&guid=b7eb7bdd-8537-4c6c-92e7-28a4c4f1ffd0
(computer generated image)


The circle in the Baltic Sea continues to perplex.

New test results from Israel shows that a part of the circle is metallic - and researchers there think it is a metal that nature itself can not manufacture.

Swedish researchers say the opposite.

- It can be created in nature, but it has different conditions in different waters, says geologist Fredrik Klingberg.

In June 2011, the divers Dennis Åsberg and Peter Lindberg, a mysterious discovery on the Baltic seabed. Ocean X team found a circle with a diameter of 60 meters almost 90 meters into the sea. Previous test results from Tel Aviv has shown that there have been burnt organic material on the circle.

Now, the new test results from another part of the circle. Result from Israel shows that the bit is metallic and contains limonite and goethite.

Professor Dr. Steve Weiner of Israel says to the divers that there is a metal that not nature can produce itself.

- I do not know what to believe anymore. The response from Tel Aviv, the object that we found a metal that is designed, makes you get goose bumps, says diver Dennis Åsberg.


"It is not at all surprising"

Swedish scientists have a different view.

- Limonite and goethite close to hand with the BOG-IRON ORE. For me, this could be nodules, they are in many seabeds, says Fredrik Klingberg, a geologist at the Geological Survey of Sweden.

Martin Jakobsson, marine geologist at Stockholm University:

- It is not at all surprising that you found those subjects, nature can produce it itself, he says

The divers also found the stones of granite lying on top of the object and received information that indicates that the object has been there for 14 000 years.

- Then it could be done by people in the past. Before the Ice Age low was a lake where the Baltic is now and the subject is on the coastal strip, said Dennis Åsberg.

Martin Jakobsson think this sounds reasonable.

- I have said it before and are still clinging to it - it seems to be a geological objects that had lain there for long.

Ambiguities about the mysterious circle makes scientists skeptical.

- I am very skeptical about the whole thing, so difficult, it should not be that hard to find out what it really is. One can make such documentation at that depth, says Johan Rönnby, professor of maritime archeology at Södertörn University.


Would love to receive help

Dennis Åsberg agree that it is mysterious - but says he's happy to receive help to find out what it is.

- All are welcome, they are welcome to come down and dive here. We can not do it, we do not have the resources required, he says.

Source (swedish) (http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/cirkeln-ar-minst-14-000-ar-gammal/)

[Lifebringer]

The PEOPLE/HUMANs held in hidden captivity for millennia, HAVE A NEED TO KNOW. LET US/WORLDWIDE GIVE PERHAPS THAT EXTRA COCTAIL MONEY THAT CAN BE BETTER SERVED SEEKING THE TRUTH OF THIS OBJECT OF HISTORICAL NOTORIETY AND CURIOUSITY.

Just like Kickstarter.com the funding can come from us like Sirius directly to a account that he sets up on his web page as a visitor/donor.

We can do this, surely $10.00 is worth a peek. If we get a million people at 10.00, they'll have more than enough money to illuminate, and send cameras that can focus on the depth, take more samples and get to the bottom of this. Perhaps someone in this administration staff, could find a way to speak to him on the how's and where's it can be donated.

It would be great to not have to constantly rely on the liars who don't want to help, just keep it for themselves.

I know I would give the ten, for independence in our NEWS of phenomena.

[Observer1964]

Swedish researchers say the opposite.

- It can be created in nature, but it has different conditions in different waters, says geologist Fredrik Klingberg.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZH6cmp2DlfI/T0UvfIo7IpI/AAAAAAAAAVc/KtImywMAOrM/s1600/balticmystery2.jpg
dont mind the trench it seem to have made while skidding into place...

I've been thinking and you know...
I think it's a weatherballoon...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_f3SZ5Tu916o/TCeG022OR-I/AAAAAAAAQ_c/QPdlnQwGhGA/s1600/us-air-force-aircraft-identification-chart-4615-1244993426-22.jpg

:cool:

[naste.de.lumina]

I got it right or there was some problem with the translation from English to Portuguese.
The guys are talking about that round object 90 X 60m is the work of nature?
:bs:

[RMorgan]

I got it right or there was some problem with the translation from English to Portuguese.
The guys are talking about that round object 90 X 60m is the work of nature?
:bs:

No, it´s not really BS. Nature has produced much bigger and impressive structures.

They are conducting the investigation properly, without jumping to conclusions, just the way it should be done.

It really could be a geological structure, or it could be a pre ice age man-made structure that´s been slowly dragged in the seabed for thousands of years, or maybe it could be extraterrestrial. We only will be able to know for sure when the investigation is finished.

Raf.

[Observer1964]

Interresting how nature can do al this... doesn't matter where..
in the depts of the sea or up in space.
Anywhere where we humans just cant go, nature can make these things... :madgrin:
http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/15/weatherballoon.jpg

[InCiDeR]

Swedish researchers say the opposite.

- It can be created in nature, but it has different conditions in different waters, says geologist Fredrik Klingberg.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZH6cmp2DlfI/T0UvfIo7IpI/AAAAAAAAAVc/KtImywMAOrM/s1600/balticmystery2.jpg
dont mind the trench it seem to have made while skidding into place...

I've been thinking and you know...
I think it's a weatherballoon...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_f3SZ5Tu916o/TCeG022OR-I/AAAAAAAAQ_c/QPdlnQwGhGA/s1600/us-air-force-aircraft-identification-chart-4615-1244993426-22.jpg

:cool:


Hahahaha.... obviously a weather balloon indeed :)

By the way. Don't let your mind fool you with that picture I have in my OP. It is computer generated, not an actual photo taken at the place where the thing is situated!

If they conclude that this is in fact metal that nature can not create... well, that may very well be the best disclosure mankind have received so far!

If this turn out to be a fact, it will change our view about our history. Further more, if the object turn out to be of extra-terrestrial origin, it will change mankind forever.

But here is the thing, IF in this equation will never happen, because they will NEVER let us know the truth.

It is just the way it is. I don't like it, but what to do? I was surprised that they released this metal speculation in the first place!

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Damn Wookies, wtf was Han thinking when he let Chewbakka take the Falcon for a spin, just getting a pack of smokes he said, yeah , right!

[DeDukshyn]

I got it right or there was some problem with the translation from English to Portuguese.
The guys are talking about that round object 90 X 60m is the work of nature?
:bs:

No, it´s not really BS. Nature has produced much bigger and impressive structures.

They are conducting the investigation properly, without jumping to conclusions, just the way it should be done.

It really could be a geological structure, or it could be a pre ice age man-made structure that´s been slowly dragged in the seabed for thousands of years, or maybe it could be extraterrestrial. We only will be able to know for sure when the investigation is finished.

Raf.

Doesn't mean we'll ever know at all. If it is ET or ancient machinery, I have my doubts about its disclosure. Just because investigations are done doesn't mean we get to know the truth about things. If that were the case Avalon wouldn't have a need to exist. ;)

[InCiDeR]

I got it right or there was some problem with the translation from English to Portuguese.
The guys are talking about that round object 90 X 60m is the work of nature?
:bs:

No, it´s not really BS. Nature has produced much bigger and impressive structures.

They are conducting the investigation properly, without jumping to conclusions, just the way it should be done.

It really could be a geological structure, or it could be a pre ice age man-made structure that´s been slowly dragged in the seabed for thousands of years, or maybe it could be extraterrestrial. We only will be able to know for sure when the investigation is finished.

Raf.

Doesn't mean we'll ever know at all. If it is ET or ancient machinery, I have my doubts about its disclosure. Just because investigations are done doesn't mean we get to know the truth about things. If that were the case Avalon wouldn't have a need to exist. ;)

Totally agree. therefore my previous statement:




If they conclude that this is in fact metal that nature can not create... well, that may very well be the best disclosure mankind have received so far!

If this turn out to be a fact, it will change our view about our history. Further more, if the object turn out to be of extra-terrestrial origin, it will change mankind forever.

But here is the thing, IF in this equation will never happen, because they will NEVER let us know the truth.

It is just the way it is. I don't like it, but what to do? I was surprised that they released this metal speculation in the first place!

Sad...

[Ellisa]

This is the artifact that 'they' were saying was a German submarine tether from WW2 isn't it? Has that theory been ditched?

Or shall we all agree it is a weather balloon?

(I loved the explanatory diagrams you posted observer 1964!)

[InCiDeR]

This is the artifact that 'they' were saying was a German submarine tether from WW2 isn't it? Has that theory been ditched?

Or shall we all agree it is a weather balloon?

(I loved the explanatory diagrams you posted observer 1964!)

If I understand their present stand correctly, they haven't ditched the submarine tether idea. This new discovery took the investigation in another direction for the time being, but that doesn't mean they have ditched any other explanation. So far I think they doing a good job keeping their mind away from jumping to conclusions.

[Ellisa]

Thanks InCiDeR- I agree, it certainly doesn't hurt to explore all the possible things this artifact could be.

[naste.de.lumina]

Hey buddy Observer1964.
The diagrams of the weather balloon is very good.
But it must be outdated because I saw no balloon model like drones.:secret:

[Observer1964]

Damn Wookies, wtf was Han thinking when he let Chewbakka take the Falcon for a spin, just getting a pack of smokes he said, yeah , right!

Gues Han was a little of guard, maybe dreaming about princes Leia.

[frozen alchemy]

That 'computer generated image' is beautiful but wholly inappropriate. That's how hoaxes get started and 'computer generated image' doesn't exactly say outright that it's a fake image, does it? How about saying 'artist's imaginary portrayal'?

Please post a better denial of it that's not buried in a comment farther down the page.

A better translation of the original page would be helpful, also. The one given is unclear as to the description of the object and the findings so far.

[InCiDeR]

That 'computer generated image' is beautiful but wholly inappropriate. That's how hoaxes get started and 'computer generated image' doesn't exactly say outright that it's a fake image, does it? How about saying 'artist's imaginary portrayal'?

Please post a better denial of it that's not buried in a comment farther down the page.

A better translation of the original page would be helpful, also. The one given is unclear as to the description of the object and the findings so far.

Thank you for your heads-up frozen alchemy. But tell me why I should add something in my OP that is not in the article in the first place? The original article say computer generated image, nothing more and nothing less, and the translation is what is written in the article. Do you want me to speculate and add or withdraw some sentences for your benefit?