View Full Version : Water fluoridation DEFEATED in Portland, Oregon (US)
ThePythonicCow
23rd May 2013, 12:52
Some good news, via Mike Adams at NaturalNews (http://www.naturalnews.com/040465_water_fluoridation_Portland_ballot_measure.html):
Voters in Portland, Oregon solidly defeated a city-wide water fluoridation measure yesterday, with 60% of the voters saying "NO!" to the practice of adding toxic fluoride chemicals to the water.
The result is a huge victory for www.CleanWaterPortland.org (http://www.cleanwaterportland.org/) and all the men, women and children of Portland who can now rest easier, knowing their tap water is not intentionally poisoned with cancer-causing chemicals derived from industrial waste and mislabeled "fluoride."
The defeat of the measure absolutely infuriated fluoride-pushing doctors and dentists, many of whom resorted to using outrageous lies and dirty tricks during the entire campaign. These lies include whoppers like, "Drinking fluoride has never harmed anyone" and "this is naturally-occurring fluoride, therefore it's safe."
More at Water fluoridation DEFEATED in Portland; citizens overwhelmingly reject dumping toxic fluoride chemicals into the water supply (NaturalNews) (http://www.naturalnews.com/040465_water_fluoridation_Portland_ballot_measure.html).
Timreh
23rd May 2013, 13:11
Thanks Paul, that is encouraging news :amen:
This is a topic I am passionate about
Would like to see the same happen here in Sydney.. at our current rate of knots that may be some time away yet?
WhiteFeather
23rd May 2013, 13:25
Great news Paul. Now this intent/awareness/domain of knowing..... should become made viral throughout the world. Thread of the day IMO.
TargeT
23rd May 2013, 13:30
More at Water fluoridation DEFEATED in Portland; citizens overwhelmingly reject dumping toxic fluoride chemicals into the water supply (NaturalNews) (http://www.naturalnews.com/040465_water_fluoridation_Portland_ballot_measure.html).
I'd say it's more like "underwhelmingly rejected" 60% is good, but not "great" by any means,, now if I saw 80+% support I'd agree that something significant had happened, as it is, it seems to be just another incremental wakeup step; but I guess expecting/hoping for more is slightly unrealistic. (as we all know voter turnout is low, I don't know about Portland specifically, but in Alaska we would generally see turn outs of 30% as "high" 16% as normal)
In Oregon, voting is done by mail. One of the last bastions of "democracy", they vote on every damn thing...which is good, however, I'll bet the natives (I was excited about it when I moved there and still believed in voting and democracy and such) get tired of all the "paperwork"
Even if this was a totalitarian decision from a nazi chairman of the board of a global corporation, it is still an incredible and amazing and good thing...
Satan himself could have decreed it. 60% is better than "good enough".
RunningDeer
23rd May 2013, 14:17
A list of those doctors and dentists that encourage false claims ought to be out there, too. Time to run them out of business by switching to doctors that are in line with preventive health.
gripreaper
23rd May 2013, 14:32
I put an energetic "hedge of protection" around Portland (where I live) and expanded the intention of "no fluoride" to encompass the entire metropolitan area, and held it there the last several weeks, and the perturbed negative energy bounced off the protective shield and returned ten fold to the contriver's of such shenanigans.
Halellullia, praise be to the gripreaper!! :p
WhiteFeather
23rd May 2013, 15:01
I put an energetic "hedge of protection" around Portland (where I live) and expanded the intention of "no fluoride" to encompass the entire metropolitan area, and held it there the last several weeks, and the perturbed negative energy bounced off the protective shield and returned ten fold to the contriver's of such shenanigans.
Halellullia, praise be to the gripreaper!! :p
Awesome...Now thats what i call consciousness intent Grip. And thats some manifestation of calling. Use the force.....of mind!
Strat
23rd May 2013, 15:54
The defeat of the measure absolutely infuriated fluoride-pushing doctors and dentists, many of whom resorted to using outrageous lies and dirty tricks during the entire campaign. These lies include whoppers like, "Drinking fluoride has never harmed anyone" and "this is naturally-occurring fluoride, therefore it's safe."
Every health practitioner who backs this should have their names publicized.
EDIT: Ahhh Paula beat me to it! Sorry didn't read the replies before I posted. I guess what they say is true: great minds think alike.
Lifebringer
23rd May 2013, 15:55
Oregon and Seattle are sounding more and more human type state w/respect for all people's rights and freedoms. It's the damp weather that keeps me from thinking about a permanent home there. My veteran hubby has severe arthritis, and deterioration of back disc joints. So perhaps a visitation during the summer months and return to AZ or other state during the winter.
I like the fact that they allow their citizens to determine the laws they will live under, after they are maggoty dust in a box and gone. Why should their constrictionist society of delusional oil and fossil and pollution, be foisted on us every one of their generations, because they make money/root of all evil intent off it?
Good for Oregon, may the rest of the state's citizens realize that enough is in our toothpaste, we don't need it all throughout our diet, every glass we drink from the "clean city treated water? Yes, we will have clean air and water, because they really are not a threat, they aren't Gods, Creator, or Karma/Universal Law. They are just fallen below moral beings, that have to make a choice. And that time for the choice, is NOW. Whether they take that as a warning or not, everybody in the world and universe can feel it and knows it.
Blessed victory for Human beings. Let us clean the slop they called a life, up. If people are really religious and knows Christ is returning, would you give HIM a cup of fluoride, or clean spring waters from whence came from HIS Heavenly Father's creation of natural earth systems, which rebel when pushed too far.
Corporations have gone too far. Karma?
You betcha! In the laws, in the prosecutions, in the clean-up, in the hearts and minds for the future.
Vitalux
23rd May 2013, 15:57
Voters in Portland, Oregon solidly defeated a city-wide water fluoridation measure yesterday, with 60% of the voters saying "NO!" to the practice of adding toxic fluoride chemicals to the water.
Now this is truly one small step for man, but one huge leap for mankind!
Lifebringer
23rd May 2013, 16:00
Here's one: Dr. Ahmet OZ. LOL:-) He is in public media denial because of his job on CNN and MSM, that follows the script of their owners.
I'm glad there's a worldwide group of lawyers prosecuting the status quo financial crooks now. This is truly a great day.
Maia Gabrial
23rd May 2013, 16:12
It's great news. Now if we can get them to stop releasing it through chemtrails....
Strat
23rd May 2013, 16:18
I think this is an important lesson of how change can realistically be made. I'm going to make a giant post on this later tonight.
AlaBil
23rd May 2013, 18:59
Does anyone know if this was a vote to prevent fluoride being added or was it a vote to reverse fluoridation that was occurring prior to the vote?
Has there been any success in removing fluoridation from any city recently?
ThePythonicCow
23rd May 2013, 20:29
Does anyone know if this was a vote to prevent fluoride being added or was it a vote to reverse fluoridation that was occurring prior to the vote?
Has there been any success in removing fluoridation from any city recently?
There is a more detailed report on this vote in the Seattle Times, here (http://seattletimes.com/html/health/2021028921_apusportlandfluoride.html). This was a vote to stop it from being added. Portland remains the largest US city without water fluoridation and without plans to add fluoridation. A larger US city, San Jose, California, has been working to add fluoride to its water supply.
BrianEn
23rd May 2013, 20:39
Here in my city they've kept floride out of the water but they keep trying.
http://www.tbnewswatch.com/news/61442/Council-says-no-to-fluoride
Nothingness
23rd May 2013, 22:40
I saw this Paul and I'm glad it's on the forum with a positive message. One can only hope. I live out in the sticks in the high desert mountains of AZ, and they truck in water and put it in a tank here next to my cabin. I pay a lot and it's fluoridated!!!! It's sulphurous and stinks because it comes out of a volcanic plane--they felt the need to add fluoride to the mix. It's probably why I pay more. Laughing.
TargeT
24th May 2013, 17:31
Controlled media fights back!
Dear Portland, Fluoride Is Not an Evil Industrial Compound
Last year, while traveling in Arizona, I visited an old copper mining town called Jerome, a small flowerbed of a community clinging to the edge of a red-burnished hillside. While there I drifted irresistibly into a rock and mineral store.
The store was an Aladdin’s cave of gleaming stones and metals. I bought my son a gold-banded slice of petrified wood and myself a handful of rough blue-green crystals, which the store owner promised would help me channel positive energy. I’ve yet to test that theory, actually; I just use them (pictured above) as home decoration.
But the reason that I’m mentioning them is not because they’re pretty but because they are naturally occurring fluorite crystals. Or if you want to know their precise chemical makeup, they are made of calcium fluoride (CaF2). And the reason I’m mentioning that is the appearance of a kind of weird mythology among people who oppose fluoridation of water -that it’s all about introducing an unnatural industrial chemical into our water supplies.
As you may know, this week the city of Portland rejected a measure that would have introduced fluoridated drinking water there, a process already available in many other cities as a means of protecting dental health. The organization that ran the successful campaign against the measure, Clean Water Portland, was quoted in Slate as follows: “Industrial byproducts don’t belong in our drinking water.” In fact, the organization cited such industrial distaste as a primary reason for opposing the plan. And this “anti-chemical” approach worked well for them. A USA Today story on the failed measure quoted one voter as saying simply, “I don’t want chemicals in my water.”
Picture me at this moment grabbing up those fluorite crystals in search of a positive energy that would help me find a polite answer to that statement rather than a sarcastic rejoinder that water is, in fact, nothing but chemicals. That it even has its very own chemical formula of H2O. That such formula tells us that, at a minimum, when we drink water were are drinking the naturally occurring chemicals hydrogen and oxygen.
No, I’m afraid my crystals are just not going to help me here. No wonder that Discover blogger Keith Kloor titled his post on the Oregon vote: “Is Portland Anti-Science?” Kloor’s post, Jake Bumgart’s Slate piece I cited earlier, and a post by Kyle Hill at Scientific American called “Portland is Wrong About Water Fluoridation” all do a great job of setting out the chemical and medical evidence that fluoridation protects, rather than harms, public health. And Julia Skiff at The Washington Post published a terrific piece reminding us that most communities in the United States are, by contrast, paying attention to the evidence at hand. There are many more such reports and – although you’ve probably guessed that I share their perspective – I’m not going to simply repeat that message here.
Rather I want to take a moment to further discuss – or perhaps I mean debunk – the notion that anti-fluoride groups are heroically battling some evil industrial compound. Because what they are really battling is compounds that derive from the naturally occurring element fluorine (F). In its pure form this is a highly reactive gas, isolated in 1886, with a name derived from the Latin word for “flow.” We know now that it’s a flicker of a trace element in stars across the universe and the 13th most abundant element in the Earth’s crust, where it exists at a level estimated at 950 ppm.
It’s because fluorine is so reactive, because it is so “eager” to bond with other chemicals, that we find it in many variations in our natural world, such as the fluorite crystals that I brought home from Arizona (which once went by the more evocative name of Bohemian emeralds). Fluorine “readily forms compounds with most other elements,” one chemical analysis notes. In its crystalline forms, it’s mined in countries ranging from the United States to China to Russia. The website EnvironmentalChemistry.com lists 42 fluorine compounds, many of which have found their way into industrial applications.
We use fluorine compounds in a host of ways. Hydrofluoric acid (HF) is used to etch glass, including most of the glass used in light bulbs. Those crystals of calcium fluoride (CaF2) I admire are used to make lenses that focus infrared light. Fluorine joins with carbon to form a class of compounds known as fluorocarbons, which were once – until proved damaging to the ozone layer – primary constituents in air-conditioning units and refrigeration devices. And let’s add toothpaste into that list; it can include anything from the fairly simple compound of sodium fluoride (NaF) to the more complicated formula of sodium monofluorophosphate (Na2PO3F), which also includes phosphorus and oxygen.
It’s these factory-based uses that lead people to think industrial when they hear the word fluoride (basically a term used to describe inorganic fluorine compounds, ones that lack the organic element carbon) or think of fluoridated water. But, in fact, most water is naturally fluoridated – the average in oceans is about 1.3 ppm and in fresh water, it’s usually about .01-.03 ppm.. And there are parts of the world – a belt along the East African Rift, for instance – where those levels rise much higher due to fluoride-rich bedrock which washes into local water supplies.
This has led the World Health Organization to classify such areas as natural hazards. As WHO notes, at levels about 10 milligrams/liter (equivalent to 10 ppm), a steady dose of such-high fluoride water can damage the bones. The most serious consequence of high fluoride exposure is called skeletal fluorosis and it is known primarily because of people living in the Earth’s fluoride belts, from the occasional industrial exposure, and from the occasional case of drinking too much tea (the latter reported in the New England Journal of Medicine this spring.)
So our awareness that fluorine-compounds carry some painful health risks at higher doses is based mostly on naturally occurring exposures. The amount of fluoride that we add to drinking water and to toothpaste isn’t in that troubling ballpark or even close. There is a milder form of fluorosis though which causes faint white streaking of the teeth and this has been reported in children, for instance, who swallow a lot of toothpaste. But this appears to be basically cosmetic, rather than indicative of damage worth worrying about.
And yet we worry about the lesser municipal water supply exposure when the naturally occurring risk is by far the greater one. We emphasize the trace level fluoride effects over the far greater harm that can be done to children without proper dental care who lack the basic chemical protection of fluoride. More than that, we forget too often that the most powerful provider of chemistry in our lives is the planet we live on. Say what you will about municipal water supplies but they’ll never match the lavish dispensary of the natural world
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/05/a-natural-history-of-fluoride/
jiminii
24th May 2013, 17:33
Controlled media fights back!
Dear Portland, Fluoride Is Not an Evil Industrial Compound
Last year, while traveling in Arizona, I visited an old copper mining town called Jerome, a small flowerbed of a community clinging to the edge of a red-burnished hillside. While there I drifted irresistibly into a rock and mineral store.
The store was an Aladdin’s cave of gleaming stones and metals. I bought my son a gold-banded slice of petrified wood and myself a handful of rough blue-green crystals, which the store owner promised would help me channel positive energy. I’ve yet to test that theory, actually; I just use them (pictured above) as home decoration.
But the reason that I’m mentioning them is not because they’re pretty but because they are naturally occurring fluorite crystals. Or if you want to know their precise chemical makeup, they are made of calcium fluoride (CaF2). And the reason I’m mentioning that is the appearance of a kind of weird mythology among people who oppose fluoridation of water -that it’s all about introducing an unnatural industrial chemical into our water supplies.
As you may know, this week the city of Portland rejected a measure that would have introduced fluoridated drinking water there, a process already available in many other cities as a means of protecting dental health. The organization that ran the successful campaign against the measure, Clean Water Portland, was quoted in Slate as follows: “Industrial byproducts don’t belong in our drinking water.” In fact, the organization cited such industrial distaste as a primary reason for opposing the plan. And this “anti-chemical” approach worked well for them. A USA Today story on the failed measure quoted one voter as saying simply, “I don’t want chemicals in my water.”
Picture me at this moment grabbing up those fluorite crystals in search of a positive energy that would help me find a polite answer to that statement rather than a sarcastic rejoinder that water is, in fact, nothing but chemicals. That it even has its very own chemical formula of H2O. That such formula tells us that, at a minimum, when we drink water were are drinking the naturally occurring chemicals hydrogen and oxygen.
No, I’m afraid my crystals are just not going to help me here. No wonder that Discover blogger Keith Kloor titled his post on the Oregon vote: “Is Portland Anti-Science?” Kloor’s post, Jake Bumgart’s Slate piece I cited earlier, and a post by Kyle Hill at Scientific American called “Portland is Wrong About Water Fluoridation” all do a great job of setting out the chemical and medical evidence that fluoridation protects, rather than harms, public health. And Julia Skiff at The Washington Post published a terrific piece reminding us that most communities in the United States are, by contrast, paying attention to the evidence at hand. There are many more such reports and – although you’ve probably guessed that I share their perspective – I’m not going to simply repeat that message here.
Rather I want to take a moment to further discuss – or perhaps I mean debunk – the notion that anti-fluoride groups are heroically battling some evil industrial compound. Because what they are really battling is compounds that derive from the naturally occurring element fluorine (F). In its pure form this is a highly reactive gas, isolated in 1886, with a name derived from the Latin word for “flow.” We know now that it’s a flicker of a trace element in stars across the universe and the 13th most abundant element in the Earth’s crust, where it exists at a level estimated at 950 ppm.
It’s because fluorine is so reactive, because it is so “eager” to bond with other chemicals, that we find it in many variations in our natural world, such as the fluorite crystals that I brought home from Arizona (which once went by the more evocative name of Bohemian emeralds). Fluorine “readily forms compounds with most other elements,” one chemical analysis notes. In its crystalline forms, it’s mined in countries ranging from the United States to China to Russia. The website EnvironmentalChemistry.com lists 42 fluorine compounds, many of which have found their way into industrial applications.
We use fluorine compounds in a host of ways. Hydrofluoric acid (HF) is used to etch glass, including most of the glass used in light bulbs. Those crystals of calcium fluoride (CaF2) I admire are used to make lenses that focus infrared light. Fluorine joins with carbon to form a class of compounds known as fluorocarbons, which were once – until proved damaging to the ozone layer – primary constituents in air-conditioning units and refrigeration devices. And let’s add toothpaste into that list; it can include anything from the fairly simple compound of sodium fluoride (NaF) to the more complicated formula of sodium monofluorophosphate (Na2PO3F), which also includes phosphorus and oxygen.
It’s these factory-based uses that lead people to think industrial when they hear the word fluoride (basically a term used to describe inorganic fluorine compounds, ones that lack the organic element carbon) or think of fluoridated water. But, in fact, most water is naturally fluoridated – the average in oceans is about 1.3 ppm and in fresh water, it’s usually about .01-.03 ppm.. And there are parts of the world – a belt along the East African Rift, for instance – where those levels rise much higher due to fluoride-rich bedrock which washes into local water supplies.
This has led the World Health Organization to classify such areas as natural hazards. As WHO notes, at levels about 10 milligrams/liter (equivalent to 10 ppm), a steady dose of such-high fluoride water can damage the bones. The most serious consequence of high fluoride exposure is called skeletal fluorosis and it is known primarily because of people living in the Earth’s fluoride belts, from the occasional industrial exposure, and from the occasional case of drinking too much tea (the latter reported in the New England Journal of Medicine this spring.)
So our awareness that fluorine-compounds carry some painful health risks at higher doses is based mostly on naturally occurring exposures. The amount of fluoride that we add to drinking water and to toothpaste isn’t in that troubling ballpark or even close. There is a milder form of fluorosis though which causes faint white streaking of the teeth and this has been reported in children, for instance, who swallow a lot of toothpaste. But this appears to be basically cosmetic, rather than indicative of damage worth worrying about.
And yet we worry about the lesser municipal water supply exposure when the naturally occurring risk is by far the greater one. We emphasize the trace level fluoride effects over the far greater harm that can be done to children without proper dental care who lack the basic chemical protection of fluoride. More than that, we forget too often that the most powerful provider of chemistry in our lives is the planet we live on. Say what you will about municipal water supplies but they’ll never match the lavish dispensary of the natural world
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/05/a-natural-history-of-fluoride/
take a win guys ... our intentions are working
jim
WhiteFeather
25th May 2013, 02:11
Compliments This Post Well Paul IMO. Seems like The Internet was the manifest and final blow in Getting People To Realize How Flouride could be fatal to Health. Dr. Paul (Pun Intended) Connett, Director of the Fluoride Action Network, discusses the role of the group and how it can help challenge water fluoridation in your community or at the state level.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzCt0o-hHPw
lorien
29th May 2013, 04:36
I was one of those NO votes!!
DeDukshyn
29th May 2013, 04:38
Congrats!
Fluoride came out of our city's water about 2 years ago. Made me so happy! I still have to filter for crazy amounts of chlorine, but at least most of that comes out with a cheap filter. I wish I had spring water.
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