View Full Version : Third-Party E-Cat Test Results Published (Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device)
TargeT
23rd May 2013, 14:58
So we have our first tested "free" energy generator, & the tests look good!
with results like this:
the highest specific energy is Gasoline (which has a lower peak power), shown at 3x10^3 Wh/kg. Whereas the specific energy of the Hot-Cat is shown at 5x10^7 Wh/kg -- over four orders of magnitude greater (1700x). And from the peak power scale, super capacitors (which have a very low specific energy) are listed at 1x10^4 W/kg, whereas the Hot-Cat registers at 4x10^5 W/kg, more than an order of magnitude greater (40x).
And they add: "Lastly, it must be remarked that both tests were terminated by a deliberate shut down of the reactor, not by fuel exhaustion; thus, the energy densities that were measured should be considered as lower limits of real values."
http://pesn.com/2013/05/20/9602320_VINDICATION--3rd-Party-E-Cat_Test-Results-show-at-least-10x-gain/Hot-Cat-closeup_glowing_400.jpg
We may actually see something very significant here.
http://pesn.com/2013/05/20/9602320_VINDICATION--3rd-Party-E-Cat_Test-Results-show-at-least-10x-gain/hot_cat_468_400.jpg
The debate about whether or not Andrea Rossi's E-Cat technology really works are put to rest with a definitive, third-party test report having been released today stating that at the most conservative, the Hot-Cat technology showed at least a ten-fold increase in power density over what could possibly have been ascribed to any presently-known chemical process.
http://pesn.com/2013/05/20/9602320_VINDICATION--3rd-Party-E-Cat_Test-Results-show-at-least-10x-gain/
An experimental investigation of possible anomalous heat production in a special type of reactor tube named E-Cat HT is carried out. The reactor tube is charged with a small amount of hydrogen loaded nickel powder plus some additives. The reaction is primarily initiated by heat from resistor coils inside the reactor tube. Measurement of the produced heat was performed with high-resolution thermal imaging cameras, recording data every second from the hot reactor tube. The measurements of electrical power input were performed with a large bandwidth three-phase power analyzer. Data were collected in two experimental runs lasting 96 and 116 hours, respectively. An anomalous heat production was indicated in both experiments. The 116-hour experiment also included a calibration of the experimental set-up without the active charge present in the E-Cat HT. In this case, no extra heat was generated beyond the expected heat from the electric input. Computed volumetric and gravimetric energy densities were found to be far above those of any known chemical source. Even by the most conservative assumptions as to the errors in the measurements, the result is still one order of magnitude greater than conventional energy sources.
http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.3913
RMorgan
23rd May 2013, 15:28
Thanks for the update, TargeT.
Well, I believe Rossi is doing it right, being as transparent, cool and scientific as he can.
Unlike Keshe, he´s not selling anything in advance, nor trying to create a savior image for himself, nor appealing to government conspiracies to justify the naturally slow development process of his technology, nor trying to hype up his enterprise by promising big events, nor using any tricks to artificially boost up his credibility, etc...
The man is just quietly developing his technology very professionally, taking all the necessary steps to test and verify it independently.
He´s conducting his business properly. So far, I can´t detect any signs of it being a scam.
If you ask me, I think the e-cat is very promising.
Raf.
TargeT
23rd May 2013, 15:39
it's hitting 350*c which is a decent temp for making power, if it was up in the 800*c (like a LFTR(Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor)) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK367T7h6ZY) some really amazing things could happen, but at 350*c it still is producing enough heat to make electricity, heat homes, heat water etc...
if things continue as they have been we could see a very very inexpensive form of energy soon... Good thing I already have my electric motorcycle! (haha)
TargeT
24th May 2013, 18:22
]More articles here (good collection):
http://www.scoop.it/t/lenr-revolution-in-process-cold-fusion
The ECAT Revolution
By 2swtrading - May 21, 2013
Well, to be entirely honest… not yet. It may take several years, probably 10 or 20 at least, before we can say adieu to today’s most used sources of energy, but there is a new kid on the block new in the energy field.
Some of you may have heard, as of lately, about the resurgence of the so called ‘cold-fusion’ and also ‘LENR’ (Low Energy Nuclear Reaction) experiments, in other words all those studies aimed to develop clean and non-radioactive energies that are somehow generated simply by exercising some sort of action on the atomic structure of certain materials (i.e. palladium, deuterium, nickel, etc.). You may remember the famous story of Pons and Fleischmann, many years ago, claiming they had obtained something in that direction, but then their theory crumbled miserably when other scientist tried to reproduce the effect in their labs.
20 years have passed since then, but in January 2011 an obscure (somebody think mad) italian inventor/engineer named Andrea Rossi started to claim that he had found a way to produce excess heat via some sort of cold fusion-like process. He called his invention the ‘ECAT’, or ‘energy catalyzer’.
The issue was that Rossi’s claims were not supported by any evidence. Two years passed, and many started to accuse him to be building a giant hoax, when finally, a couple of days ago, on May 20th, a group of serious academics (all with reputations to lose), published a detailed and thorough paper titled “Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device” where they did show that Rossi’s invention is not a hoax: his device produces clearly an incredibly large amount of heat from a still unknown/unexplained sort of non-radioactive nuclear reaction.
The paper is available for download from here and was authored by Giuseppe Levi of Bologna University, Italy; Evelyn Foschi, Bologna, Italy; Torbjörn Hartman, Bo Höistad, Roland Pettersson and Lars Tegnér of Uppsala University, Sweden; and Hanno Essén, of the Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden.
Here below is an image of the Rossi’s ECAT device at work, while generating hundreds of degrees of heat at virtually NO COST.
Yes, you’ve heard it right, the cost of the energy generated by Rossi’s device is virtually zero.
The ‘fuel’ used to run the ‘reactor’ is apparently a small rod of nickel loaded with some proprietary additive and it is estimated that with one rod the reactor can run for 6 months, no stop, after which you must substitute the rod (estimated cost of replacement: a few dollars).
This reactor/device is already for sale for heat production (only available to industrial customers, 1 MW plants, not available for retail clients) and can be bought from here. Disclaimer: we have no affiliation whatsoever with this company, but this is such a breakthrough in the energy field and Rossi’s company is a start-up, so we wanted to spread the word about it.
Now, why did we say that this device will make us wave goodbye to all previous known forms of energy, including fossil fuels, nuclear and solar?
Well, because in the long term the ECAT energy reactor will be used to generate not only heat, but also electricity (for example it could be used to propel steam turbines or steam engines) and its ability to produce virtually FREE and CLEAN energy, at a COST NEAR TO ZERO, will inevitably lead to phasing out all the other, more expensive, risky and polluting forms of energy.
Even clean energies like solar panels or wind towers all of a sudden will start to look like ugly, primitive, inefficient (and pricey) energy sources, if compared with the ECAT reactor.
It’s hard to say how this invention will impact the energy market in the medium term. Probably not much will happen because this product (albeit available for purchase for corporate clients) is still very much at the beta level and we surely don’t foresee oil prices collapsing tomorrow morning. In any case the rationale behind this post on SOH was not so much to give investment advice but rather to share the news about this revolutionary energy source that may change forever the world in the next years.
There are a myriad of discussions on the subject and the LENR/cold fusion topic is so wide that it cannot be debated in a short post like this, so if you want to dig deeper into this and track all the news and the most recent updates about cold fusion and LENR, you may want to check out E-Cat world, the main web portal on the subject.
Free energy for all.
http://slopeofhope.com/2013/05/the-ecat-revolution.html
Cold Fusion gets red hot and aims for EU
The resurgence of "cold fusion" research just shifted up a gear with the most remarkable development yet.
Two years ago, Italian inventor Andrea Rossi showed off his Energy Catalyser or E-Cat, a reactor claimed to produce hundreds of kilowatts. He said it had been purchased by an undisclosed US military customer. Since then Rossi has continued to make extravagant but unverifiable claims, promising that independent tests would be published at some point. Something astonishing has now happened: a third-party report has been published supporting Rossi's claims
The report -- "Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device" -- concludes that the E-Cat does produce excess energy, and lots of it. "Even by the most conservative assumptions as to the errors in the measurements," say the authors, "the result is still one order of magnitude greater than conventional energy sources." The E-Cat produced at least ten times more energy than any hidden batteries or other power source could have supplied.
The testers used high-resolution thermographic cameras to measure the surface temperature all over the reactor tube. This data was then used to calculate the amount of heat energy being radiated using a simple physical formula established over a century ago. This methodology was possible because the testers had a new version of the device known as a "Hot Cat", which operates at much higher temperatures than previously -- high enough for it to glow red-hot.
The reason for working at lower temperatures was safety and stability of the reaction, and this may still be an issue. The report was delayed because during an initial test run in November 2012 the steel cylinder overheated and melted: "Although the run was not successful as far as obtaining complete data is concerned, it was fruitful in that it demonstrated a huge production of excess heat, which however could not be quantified."
In the successful runs, the E-Cat was run for 96 and 116 hours respectively, heating to 860C and producing large amounts of excess energy. It produced two kilowatts of heat with a 360 watts input, giving it a Coefficient of Performance (COP) of approximately six. The extended duration was intended to prove that the excess energy was too much to be supplied by a hidden power source. When an inert E-Cat was used, no excess energy was observed and the temperature only reached 300C. This is not a small effect: the E-Cat is either a massive fraud or a reactor capable of producing commercially-viable levels of energy.
The authors of the report are Giuseppe Levi of Bologna University, Evelyn Foschi, four scientists from Uppsala University in Sweden, and Hanno Essén of Stockholm's Royal Institute of Technology. These are all individuals who have previously shown an interest in this area, and some critics have been quick to dismiss them as Rossi's friends. However, it's no small matter to put your professional and academic reputation on the line like this, especially when there are so many accusations of fraud flying around.http://cdni.wired.co.uk/620x413/d_f/ecat%20hot3.jpgThe report was funded in part by ELFORSK AB, a Swedish energy industry research body, which took the unusual step of issuing a supporting statement:
"The measurements show that the catalyst produces significantly more energy than can be explained by ordinary chemical reactions. The results are very remarkable. What lies behind the extraordinary heat production cannot be explained today."
Rossi himself said of the publication that "This is one of the most important days of my life".
Many commentators are still stunned that a positive report has finally appeared. An alien landing on the White House lawn might have been less surprising. Ecatnews.com, which shut down in disgust last November after too many failed promises by Rossi, started up again with the comment "Never have I longed to be proven wrong so much in my life".
Frank Acland, editor of ECatworld, has been following the ups and downs of the Rossi saga. He believes the report could be a major step towards acceptance.
"There are people in industry, science and among the general public who have been paying attention but have been quite skeptical of Rossi's claims will get off the fence and start taking him more seriously," Acland told Wired.co.uk. "This is the kind of technology that people want to see come along, if only they could have solid reason to believe -- and this report could provide that."
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-05/24/cold-fusion-research
Soulboy
5th June 2013, 12:44
http://gizadeathstar.com/2013/06/rossis-cold-fusion-reactor-verified-some-speculations-on-a-suppression-part-two
TargeT
5th June 2013, 13:17
http://gizadeathstar.com/2013/06/rossis-cold-fusion-reactor-verified-some-speculations-on-a-suppression-part-two
The article which piqued my curiosity was this:
Cold fusion reactor independently verified, has 10,000 times the energy density of gas
The article itself points out why cold fusion became semi-respectable in this paragraph:
“As for what’s happening inside the cold fusion reactor, Andrea Rossi and his colleague Sergio Focardi have previously said their device works by infusing hydrogen into nickel, transmuting the nickel into copper and releasing a large amount of heat. While Rossi hasn’t provided much in the way of details — he’s a very secretive man, it seems — we can infer some knowledge from NASA’s own research into cold fusion. Basically, hydrogen ions (single protons) are sucked into a nickel lattice (pictured right); the nickel’s electrons are forced into the hydrogen to produce neutrons; the nickel nuclei absorb these neutrons; the neutrons are stripped of their electrons to become protons; and thus the nickel goes up in atomic number from 28 to 29, becoming copper.
“This process, like the “conventional” fusion of hydrogen atoms into helium, produces a lot of heat. (See: 500MW from half a gram of hydrogen: The hunt for fusion power heats up.) The main difference, though, is that the cold fusion process (also known as LENR, or low energy nuclear reaction) produces very slow moving neutrons which don’t create ionizing radiation or radioactive waste. Real fusion, on the other hand, produces fast neutrons that decimate everything in their path. In short, LENR is fairly safe — safe enough that NASA dreams of one day putting a cold fusion reactor in every home, car, and plane. Nickel and hydrogen, incidentally, are much cheaper and cleaner fuels than gasoline.”
Remember the “Mr. Fusion” coffee-maker-reactor powering Michael J. Fox’s and Christopher Lloyd’s Delorian automobile in Back to the Future? Well, LENR or Low Energy Nuclear Fusion is the real life model.
It is important at this juncture, however, to recall that there is an even more specific theory of such reactions out there, one that, in fact, makes some sense within the standard model: LANR, or Lattice Assisted Nuclear Reactions, and indeed, one gets a pictorial graphic or sense of this model of cold fusion from the article itself, with hydrogen atoms embedding into the crystal lattice structure of nickel. Indeed, even in other versions of cold fusion with palladium and deuterium, the LANR theory can make sense.
So why the ruckus over Pons and Fleischmann and their claims? What, really, might have been going on?
Time for that good old fashioned high octane speculation again, for I suspect that the real problem with the controversy was historical and political. Pons and Fleischmann were not the first scientists making claims to having achieved low energy fusion reactions.
In fact, the first one to do so (that I’m aware of) was Nazi scientist Dr. Ronald Richter, who claims to have observed similar phenomena in plasma experiments in Germany… in 1936! (see my The Nazi International, pp. 260-261, 293-294, see also p. 321 for his reference to the use of iridium and rhodium). Richter was doing it all: rotating plasmas, magnetic fields, plasma shock waves and metal lattices (iridium and rhodium), but most importantly, he anticipated in general outline the LANR or lattice-assisted theory by some decades, because as he was attempting to explain his ideas to a (very) skeptical scientific public in Argentina, he indicated that the basis of his energy anomaly, in his opinion, was some sort of resonant or transductive effect with the local lattice structure – he called it a “cellular” structure – in space-time itself.
So perhaps while the U.S. Air Force was secretly interviewing the very scientist that was being publicly excoriated as a mountebank and fraud, the idea occurred to someone within the American black projects establishment that the ideas might be worth looking into… And then of course there was Philo Fransworth and his 1960s Fusor patents, achieving sustainable fusion reactions of a few seconds in a device no larger than a softball(and a lot smaller and cheaper than the gigantic tokamak magnetic bottles).
Suppose any of these ideas or devices – from Richter to Farnsworth or even to the modern theory of LANR – had been made practical? Then, along came Pons and Fleischmann, and upset the applecart… such things could not just appear suddenly on the world economic stage without prolonged study as to their implications: could the technology be cheaply weaponized and proliferated? What would the impact on the world economy be? How would one transition to it?
Rest assured, such questions were and are being asked in the secret meetings of banksters and corporate CEOs while they’re engaged in mock sacrifices. And if you don’t believe me, re-read that Brookings Report on the implications of peaceful space activities very closely….
Well that's a depressing conformation that cheap/free energy has been suppressed for decades....
Cidersomerset
5th June 2013, 13:43
Hi Targe James Martinez is part of this and he was talking about last week
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59477-James-Martinez-Cold-Fusion-update-The-Believers-Tlr-James-speaking-in-Holland
Default James Martinez Cold Fusion update // The Believers Tlr // James speaking in Holland
James discusses and reads out a email sent to him as a press release about Cold
Fusion on his latest show 23/5/2013 last week.......I know most of us do not
understand the technical side of this. All I know is James is a man of integrity and
has been trying to expose this technology for years. I'm just presenting an update
of this material to keep it in your paradigm........He explains it in simple
understandable language imo...
http://achieveradio.com/archDL.php?ShowURL=http://audio.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/2013-05-23--1200---Cash_Flow.mp3
If above not working,press link below for mp3...or link to thread
above ...........
http://www.achieveradio.com/tuners/a...p3&dv=player_0
TargeT
5th June 2013, 14:30
I've heard this phenomenon described: "as important as the invention of wheel"
since this has actually been verified, I cannot disagree.
this will change the world, unfortunately I won't have one in my home for a few years :(
I guess I'll keep looking into solar.
Soulboy
5th June 2013, 15:03
The ridiculous amount of people who have been disappeared over this topic has been proof enough for me for years, really. If it was all just a bit of nonsense and didn't work, they'd just let them make fools of themselves publicly
Etherios
10th June 2013, 20:36
well i gave the links above and a few others to friends ... and again the reply was ... rossi is this and that ... ecat site is owned by an oil company
Last i was told rossi is in jail for tax and waste fraud ... anyone care to verify this?
Soulboy
15th June 2013, 21:33
This seems to contradict him being locked away. In the second link the author states he spoke to him a few days ago. I cannot imagine any half-decent reason for an oil company to sponsor Rossi, not even if his invention does not work as that still draws more people's attention to the many others who have gone there before and have vanished in one way or another, which is not good publicity for big oil.
Where did you hear that? Do you remember where it was, perhaps?
http://gizadeathstar.com/2013/06/rossis-cold-fusion-reactor-verified-some-speculations-on-a-suppression-part-two
http://gizadeathstar.com/2013/06/rossis-cold-fusion-reactor-verified-some-speculations-on-a-suppression-part-two (http://gizadeathstar.com/2013/06/plasmas-coming/)
Gardener
15th June 2013, 21:58
Sigh! Always the dirty tricks brigade turn out in force to discredit wherever possible...........
It is my sincere 'belief' and yes it is a belief because i simply don't know yet, that in a new energy paradigm, and it WILL come, no cash can be involved, it is a completely new way of being. Human beings find it very difficult to imagine a life without 'money' to not expect recompence, it will come though.
Etherios
16th June 2013, 15:40
i think they are mixing the past ... i have read and he has said its true that he was put in jail years ago for other things but not now ... i havent found anything for this year about this ...
TargeT
2nd July 2013, 20:35
Explore an explosive new energy source
Negative words comprise a large percentage of the adjectives used in The Roanoke Times articles re: energy: expensive, depleting, exhausting, polluting, filthy, radioactive, etc. These negative words apply to petroleum, natural gas, coal, uranium, thorium (yep — thorium, too).
How about a few positive words: cheap, endless, non-polluting, world-altering, safe, local (as in your basement or a closet). These words apply to LENR (low-energy nuclear reaction). It’s coming. Soon, though soon is really squishy but might be as early as this year. In spite of the word “nuclear,” LENR is not radioactive. Currently, it usese nickel (in very small quantities) and nitrogen(This is a mistake by the author), both of which are plentiful and cheap. Sir Isaac Newton tried to do it, but back then it was called alchemy, and Newton did not publicly admit to it.
Pons and Fleishmann, University of Utah electrochemists, introduced it prematurely in 1989 and erroneously labeled it “cold fusion.” No one could reproduce their efforts, so they were ridiculed and shamed from the world of physics. More than likely they, along with Andrea Rossi, will receive Nobel prizes and be mentioned along with Prometheus and the unknown that invented the wheel. Their dream is now being accepted by NASA: Chief Scientist at NASA Langley Research Center Dennis Bushnell has authored a new report “Advanced-to-Revolutionary Space Technology Options — The Responsibly Imaginable,” which includes low-energy nuclear reactions; the University of Missouri has a well-funded investigation underway.
Outstanding developers at the moment are Italian inventor Rossi’s Leonardo Corp., the Greek corporation, Defkalion and an American company, Brillouin. The essence of the system(s) of Rossi and Defkalion at the moment appears to be a matrix consisting of nano nickel(that is really, really tiny bits of nickel) through which monoatomic hydrogen (that is H as opposed to the normal H2) is pumped, and some sort of catalyzer is involved. A local atomic reaction, as yet not scientifically explained, takes place that combines the nickel and hydrogen nuclei forming copper. That is the alchemy part. Here Einstein’s E=mc2 kicks in, converting the small amount of lost mass into a huge amount of energy. Just like in the H-bomb but without radioactive emissions occurring.
A report by a third party was issued May 20 that indicates that Rossi has produced what he has labeled an E-CAT HT2 that produced excess energy orders of magnitude above any chemical (fossil) device. My best guess is that the world has been turned upside down. I recommend that readers examine the paper at bit.ly/LENR_report and decide whether to agree. This is a heavy-duty report loaded with mathematics and tables. Read the conclusion on page 28 of the report and then consult your local unbiased physicist. This appears to make the congressional examination of the Benghazi, Internal Revenue Service and Associated Press scandals trivial.
http://www.roanoke.com/opinion/commentary/1952147-12/explore-an-explosive-new-energy-source.html
http://vimeo.com/68776012
Andrea Rossi June 26th, 2013 at 7:59 AM
Paul D. Kendall:
Thank you for your kind considerations. Yes, soon we will need much help. Very important developments are close to pop up. The USA factory is in advanced status ( it is magnificent), and important developments are coming up.
Warm Regards, A.R.
——————————–
Herb Gillis June 26th, 2013 at 10:38 AM
Dear Andrea Rossi:
When you said earlier today that “soon we will need much help”, do you mean you will be hiring employees?
Kind Regards; HRG.
——————————–
Andrea Rossi June 26th, 2013 at 1:39 PM
Herb Gillis:
Yes.
Warm Regards, A.R.
Interesting recent developments.
sigma6
7th July 2013, 16:47
i think they are mixing the past ... i have read and he has said its true that he was put in jail years ago for other things but not now ... i havent found anything for this year about this ...
Probably not a bad thing if he was "put in jail" it wakes you up to the real truth... there are secret rules and organizations that govern things and you best be aware what you are doing... Not going to argue how disgusting evil they are here, the point is they have the potential to be... It's all about making YOU think deadly serious about what YOU do... And they will always covet their power...
in the picture of the video. I see a very serious minded man, who doesn't just have Dollar signs in his eyes... and I am grateful that he is the man fighting to bring this to the public. History will remember him... and I pray for his success in the near future... It is just so viable!!!
I think the tide is turning against parasites who are sucking up to big dirty OIL and and big dirt NUCLEAR.
Reinhard
8th July 2013, 15:42
[QUOTE=Etherios;688699]
................. I see a very serious minded man, who doesn't just have Dollar signs in his eyes... and I am grateful that he is the man fighting to bring this to the public. History will remember him... and I pray for his success in the near future... It is just so viable!!!
I think the tide is turning against parasites who are sucking up to big dirty OIL and and big dirt NUCLEAR.
I totally agree, I have met him and talked to him......BUT, he is a bit naive to think his inner circle automatically is like him----especially quite a few of his sales force $$$$$ ---- AND he just about three weeks ago admitted for the first time that he is being suppressed by "powerful upper echalons", as opposed to the "snakes" he had been fighting with and had been coping with quite well, so far.
I tried to warn him about 8 months ago (I created a thread at PA, but can't find it anymore), --- about what Wade Frazier calls 'Godzilla'.
Yes! He needs our prayers and other support! And I'm convinced that one of the LENR projects (Rossi, Defkalion, Celani, MIT (!)....) will hit the market in the near future!
TargeT
8th July 2013, 15:59
Here’s another video clip from Thomas Florek’s recent interview with Andrea Rossi in which he discusses the topic of skepticism.
http://vimeo.com/69864491
A very solid seeming person, not flighty or "crazy exentric" like some of the "FE" guys I've seen, the interviews are helpful IMO because they shed light on Dr Rossi's charactor, something that is often over looked in internet skepticism.
this video is from 27 feb, prior to the report that was released (above in this thread) and before his USA manufacturing plant was in full operation; and even with these facts he STILL looks very calm and confident.
Longer interview here (almost full):
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TargeT
9th July 2013, 15:18
AND HERE IS AN UPDATE OF TODAY, JULY 8TH:
The past three days have been holidays for most, but for us have been a tremendous period of work during which we made a historic page for what concerns our tech: for the first time, an E-Cat module, entirely produced by our USA Partner in the new factory ( a magnificence), charged with the charge made by the Partner’s CEO, using the materials we teached to buy, prepare,manipulate, treat, to make the charges, assembled , insulated, has started its operation, and the results are the same of the E-Cats built by us. This event means that for the first time an E-Cat not built by me, not controlled by me and not charged by me, not tested in my factory, but manufactured from third parties upon our instructions and know how has worked properly. This is the first unit of the plant that will give to the factory of our USA Partner all its necessary thermal energy, and is also the school ship for the employees. It is very important that it has been completely made by the Customer, not by me: it is the first of millions, but the first is always special. We celebrated with Coca Cola ( alcohol is forbidden in that factory). All the former plants, even if built in the USA, had been supplied with reactors cores made by me, so this is a very important step.
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=810&cpage=2#comment-734612
sigma6
22nd July 2013, 16:09
[QUOTE=Etherios;688699]
................. I see a very serious minded man, who doesn't just have Dollar signs in his eyes... and I am grateful that he is the man fighting to bring this to the public. History will remember him... and I pray for his success in the near future... It is just so viable!!!
I think the tide is turning against parasites who are sucking up to big dirty OIL and and big dirt NUCLEAR.
I totally agree, I have met him and talked to him......BUT, he is a bit naive to think his inner circle automatically is like him----especially quite a few of his sales force $$$$$ ---- AND he just about three weeks ago admitted for the first time that he is being suppressed by "powerful upper echalons", as opposed to the "snakes" he had been fighting with and had been coping with quite well, so far.
I tried to warn him about 8 months ago (I created a thread at PA, but can't find it anymore), --- about what Wade Frazier calls 'Godzilla'.
Yes! He needs our prayers and other support! And I'm convinced that one of the LENR projects (Rossi, Defkalion, Celani, MIT (!)....) will hit the market in the near future!
I admire your effort, and that is cool that you have managed correspondence, I would try to maintain that, keep the channel open...
On the other hand, sales people will be sales people, they are a 'necessary evil' (lol) I would like to work on his 'sales' team, because it would be an honourable and valuable service to others. That is the way to go... Are you giving true value?
also you started a post on this and can't find it??? Aren't you a little concerned about that? that doesn't sound right...
sigma6
22nd July 2013, 16:15
AND HERE IS AN UPDATE OF TODAY, JULY 8TH:
The past three days have been holidays for most, but for us have been a tremendous period of work during which we made a historic page for what concerns our tech: for the first time, an E-Cat module, entirely produced by our USA Partner in the new factory ( a magnificence), charged with the charge made by the Partner’s CEO, using the materials we teached to buy, prepare,manipulate, treat, to make the charges, assembled , insulated, has started its operation, and the results are the same of the E-Cats built by us. This event means that for the first time an E-Cat not built by me, not controlled by me and not charged by me, not tested in my factory, but manufactured from third parties upon our instructions and know how has worked properly. This is the first unit of the plant that will give to the factory of our USA Partner all its necessary thermal energy, and is also the school ship for the employees. It is very important that it has been completely made by the Customer, not by me: it is the first of millions, but the first is always special. We celebrated with Coca Cola ( alcohol is forbidden in that factory). All the former plants, even if built in the USA, had been supplied with reactors cores made by me, so this is a very important step.
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=810&cpage=2#comment-734612
Wow! that is fantastic news! Unbelievable! ... That is a real critical milestone...
We should all keep an eye on the factory/production/training plant.
I don't intend for anything bad to happen to it...
:bump:
TargeT
22nd July 2013, 17:33
Live test of E-cat tomorrow for 8 hours as a part of the ICCF-18 (18th International Conf. on Cold Fusion) (http://iccf18.research.missouri.edu/index.php)
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international conference on cold fusion
From Sunday through Friday, MU will host the 18th International Conference on Cold Fusion. The conference will bring together scientists studying the potential for new forms of energy production.
Since April 2012, MU has been home to the Sidney Kimmel Institute for Nuclear Renaissance, which funds research in the field of low energy nuclear reactions.
This field grew out of the highly publicized "cold fusion" experiments conducted in 1989 by Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann at the University of Utah.
Many in the scientific community accused Fleischmann and Pons of violating scientific ethics, mostly by presenting the results of their experiments without proper peer review.
Public misunderstanding, the difficulty of reproducing Fleischmann’s and Pons’ results and the lack of an established theory that would explain their observations steered the study of low energy nuclear reactions into troubled waters almost as soon as it began.
Today, some scientists maintain that their work has value and requires further scrutiny. Many of these scientists will be attending the conference.
"There have been great advances in this discipline over the last five years by research labs and private institutions around the world," MU physics professor and Vice Chancellor for Research Robert Duncan wrote in the conference’s welcome letter. "The Naval Research Lab (NRL), and many other excellent laboratories have confirmed that the excess heat effects reported by Fleischmann and Pons are real, and roughly one thousand times larger than can be attributed to a chemical process."
Here are some resources to learn more about the study of low energy nuclear reactions:
■The experiments by Pons and Fleischmann are presented in a primer compiled by "Understanding Science," a science communication effort developed by the University of California Museum of Paleontology and funded by the National Science Foundation. The article explains their experiment at a layperson level and makes a case that the two acted immorally.
■The two first revealed their conclusions to the general public at a 1989 press conference.
■David Kidwell, a scientist with the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, D.C., briefly summarizes his lab’s eight years of research into low energy nuclear reactions. Kidwell will deliver a keynote speech at the conference Monday morning.
■This 2009 report by the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency summarizes the work being done on low energy nuclear reactions in labs around the world. It also gauges the implications of a breakthrough in understanding the processes behind the excess heat effect.
■In 2009, Duncan accompanied a "60 Minutes" crew to a lab in Israel (starting at 7:15 mark), where he observed low energy nuclear reaction experiments and weighed the evidence himself. "I found that the work done was carefully done, and that the excess heat, as I see it now, is quite real," he told reporter Scott Pelley. The video features interviews with several physicists and ends on an interview with Fleischmann.
■Edmund Storms, a scientist who worked for 34 for years at the Los Alamos National Laboratory, has been investigating low-energy nuclear reactions in his own lab since his retirement in 1991. He has compiled more than 4,000 papers on the subject, which are available at LENR-CANR.org. In "A Student’s Guide to Cold Fusion," he summarizes the state of the science and offers a guide for future studies. Storms will also be speaking Monday morning at the conference.
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/a/163898/mu-to-host-international-conference-on-cold-fusion/
TargeT
31st January 2014, 18:33
Slow and steady wins the race I guess? This is even more validating, an American firm has picked up rights to the technology.
Cold fusion tech picked up by major US partner, prepares for launch in the American and Chinese energy markets
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Cold fusion. The moment I type those words, I know that half of you will smile with excitement — while the other half will grab your pitchforks and chase me out of town. No other topic, perhaps with the exception of PS4 vs. Xbox One, has caused as much dissension amongst ExtremeTech readers. On the one hand, we have a technology that, if it works — if it can really produce unlimited amounts of cheap, green electricity — could change society forever. On the other hand, there are a lot of scientists who are adamant that the technology is snake oil — a scam that’s perpetuated by writers such as myself. On the off-chance that cold fusion does turn out to be the savior of civilization, though, I’m going to keep on writing about it. Today, the big news is that a large US investment company has acquired the rights to Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat cold fusion technology. That investment company, Cherokee Investment Partners, appears to be interested in deploying the cold fusion tech commercially in both China and the US.
Cold fusion, also known as low-energy nuclear reaction (LENR), is a technology that promises to create huge amounts of green energy from very cheap fuel. In the case of Rossi’s E-Cat (Energy Catalyser), nickel and hydrogen are fused into copper — a process that has 10,000 times the energy density of gasoline, and 1,000 times the power density. For more background information on cold fusion/LENR, and why it’s safer and cleaner than normal nuclear reactors, read our previous E-Cat story. Suffice it to say, the scientific community’s main contention is whether this reaction is actually possible or not. Rossi says he’s found a special catalyst that makes it possible; lots of other scientists, though, claim it’s hogwash. (Read: 500MW from half a gram of hydrogen: The hunt for fusion power heats up.)
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Putting aside whether the tech actually works or not, it seems that the rights to Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat have been acquired by a US partner: Industrial Heat. Industrial Heat appears to be a new LLC set up by the CEO of Cherokee Investment Partners, Thomas Darden. Rossi had previously spoken about a mysterious American partner, but (in true Rossi fashion) had previously declined to say who that partner was — it’s now all but confirmed that Darden/Cherokee was the partner in question. Cherokee has previously worked in the energy sector, investing in solar power and waste-to-energy technology.
Industrial Heat, according to a press release dated January 24, has been “preparing numerous patent applications” to protect its newly acquired cold fusion technology. The press release indicates that a key factor in the acquisition was the May 2013 research paper, compiled by independent scientists, who found that the E-Cat was producing “anomalous” amounts of energy. There are also reports that Darden recently visited China, to showcase the E-Cat to Chinese officials and businesspeople. China is reportedly looking at using the E-Cat to significantly reduce its carbon footprint. (Read: NASA’s cold fusion tech could put a nuclear reactor in every home, car, and plane.)
http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/lner-nickel-hydrogen-lattice-300x258.jpg
While the Industrial Heat acquisition adds a lot of credence to Rossi’s claims, it’s still not scientific proof that LENR is actually occurring inside the E-Cat. Rossi says that he has a team of international scientists that are planning to do another round of tests on the E-Cat. Their tests should “end in March,” with a peer-reviewed report to follow sometime after that. The May 2013 study left a lot of questions unanswered, which in turn led to the authors’ conclusions being mostly dismissed. Hopefully this next study will finally prove that cold fusion is real.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/175507-cold-fusion-tech-picked-up-by-major-us-partner-prepares-to-launch-in-the-american-and-chinese-energy-markets
778 neighbour of some guy
1st February 2014, 14:59
Learn to think!
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Etherios
3rd February 2014, 12:55
anyone has any new info on this? i am still amazed at how controlled info is about it.
TargeT
29th February 2016, 19:54
Lots of interesting stuff in the energy field right now.
Historic event: One-year 1 megawatt E-Cat trial completed
On February 17, 2016, a 350-day commercial test of a one megawatt heat plant based on Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat was completed. The event must be considered historic since it’s the first time an industrially useful amount of energy is produced over such a long time from this kind of yet unexplained radiation-free nuclear reaction—LENR or Low Energy Nuclear Reactions.
To be clear, the report from the one-year trial, which has been controlled by a major independent third party certification institute, will be released only in about a month, and until then no official information is provided on the test result. However, multiple sources have told me that the test has been successful.
Earlier, some sources having visited the test plant told me that the COP, Coefficient of Performance, i.e. the ratio between output power and input power for control, was in the range 20—80, meaning that the heat plant was consuming 12—50 kW while producing 1 MW—the average consumption of about 300 Western households, including electricity, space heating, water heating and air conditioning.
I have also been told that the total amount of fuel—mostly harmless elements such as lithium, hydrogen and nickel, according to Andrea Rossi’s granted patent on the technology—was in the range of tenths of grams. And supposedly the charge has never been changed during the year. On the other hand, after one year’s run, the reactors are now being recharged for further operation.
All this might be confirmed by the third party institute, that has been controlling the heat plant 24/7 with video cameras.
The test has been undertaken by Andrea Rossi and his US industrial partner Industrial Heat, and according to Rossi, commercialisation of similar industrial heat plants will be initiated as soon as possible, provided that the result is positive. Industrial Heat has acquired the right to produce and sell E-Cat based technology in, as far as I have been told, North, Central and South America, China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.
Needless to say, the consequences of such an energy source for the world will be huge. And the consequences for industry, finance and society is also the focus of the New Energy World Symposium or NewS, which will be held in Stockholm, Sweden, on June 21, 2016, provided that the report from the test is clearly positive.
So, now we all wait for the report. Personally, however, I will put the champagne on ice. Now.
https://animpossibleinvention.com/2016/02/18/historic-event-one-year-1-megawatt-e-cat-trial-completed/
These guys are basically verifying it with their parallel studies.
http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/home/mfmp-blog/519-the-cookbook-is-in-the-signal
Carmody
1st March 2016, 05:28
I'm willing to bet that a 'non performance' clause has been put in place in the contract for the rights of the e-cat, for that given partner.
Meaning, if they sit on it and sell it to no one, even if they give Rossi lots of money for doing so ----they lose the rights.
This is also playing into the whole thing about the middle east being 'caught on fire', as this religious/fascist/racist/totaltarian mess that is purposely being stirred and promoted in the middle east, is also about some form of engagement and mop up of a middle east under the huge threat of 'energy control-power loss'.
In a world with free energy, oil power and all tied to it is going into free fall, which spells major chaos for those power groups and what backs them in the middle east. One of the first signs is a collapse of oil prices, partially as a last ditch attempt to vacuum up money and power (human energy, etc), before that door closes.
Additionally, for those outside of the middle east who are in a different space and different social/economic condition...You can practically see the attempt to close the gauntlet on the human race ---in and of/by oligarchy, before the human race catches on to what is now happening.
TargeT
1st March 2016, 13:38
In a world with free energy, oil power and all tied to it is going into free fall, which spells major chaos for those power groups and what backs them in the middle east. One of the first signs is a collapse of oil prices, partially as a last ditch attempt to vacuum up money and power (human energy, etc), before that door closes.
Additionally, for those outside of the middle east who are in a different space and different social/economic condition...You can practically see the attempt to close the gauntlet on the human race ---in and of/by oligarchy, before the human race catches on to what is now happening.
The middle east has been a one trick pony for a good while now, coming up on 100 years (funny how those 100~99 year contracts/cycles seem common) & the current oil destabilization with a possible long term future hits from solar, wind, alt-energy production, Canada is almost done with a molten salt thorium reactor licensing round, Germany and China are racing for fusion & Rossi has the Ecat (and the many other groups that are running similar LENR based groups), batteries are getting so much R&D money dumped into them that once that tech breaks free the cat will be out of the bag.
I ride my motorcycle for free from my solar panels, this will be a very common thing soon (except cars/trucks).
the energy consumption/production establishment is in for a very disruptive future.
onawah
1st March 2016, 16:40
I couldn't access the first link, and couldn't find the article you quoted at the second one.
Got any better links? Thanks.
https://animpossibleinvention.com/20...ial-completed/
http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/home/mfmp-blog/519-the-cookbook-is-in-the-signal
TargeT
1st March 2016, 16:56
I couldn't access the first link, and couldn't find the article you quoted at the second one.
Got any better links? Thanks.
Mats Lewan Covers Conclusion of the 1 MW Plant Test
http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/02/18/mats-lewan-covers-conclusion-of-the-1-mw-plant-test/
Here's the FB page of the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project:
https://www.facebook.com/MartinFleischmannMemorialProject/?fref=nf
their main site is www.quantumheat.org
Here's a bit on the (uncoordinated) corroboration efforts between Rossi and MFMP:
http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/02/27/implications-of-signal-seeing-into-the-cat-with-x-rays-mfmp-video-on-latest-findings/
Carmody
1st March 2016, 17:32
Interesting that this first website went down. I even gave it to a well known researcher.
Somone is paying very close attention to this rossi e-cat thing.
big time.
I have other clues, like my near impossibility of posting such information and sharing it, in the past 24 hours. Even kicked off other forms and feeds, when I tried to post that information.
Then the forum being down today from an apparent DDOS attack.
Of all the things it could be tied to, I think this recent Rossi news is the real culprit.
TargeT
1st March 2016, 18:01
Then the forum being down today from an apparent DDOS attack.
Of all the things it could be tied to, I think this recent Rossi news is the real culprit.
It is a rather quiet bit of "news" I can't find it many places...
Though the forum going down, I don't know that was anything significant, or if it was it's a great sign since it only worked for less than an hour or so; the implications of your post are "a bridge too far" for me still.
Carmody
1st March 2016, 18:05
Then the forum being down today from an apparent DDOS attack.
Of all the things it could be tied to, I think this recent Rossi news is the real culprit.
It is a rather quiet bit of "news" I can't find it many places...
Though the forum going down, I don't know that was anything significant, or if it was it's a great sign since it only worked for less than an hour or so; the implications of your post are "a bridge too far" for me still.
Just checked, it apparently was not a DDOS attack, but the forum did indeed go down as this was posted, and I did indeed suffer these posting problems (comment areas on forums, news site, etc).
If that post, on that website, is now missing in action...and it was made on feb 15th, of the Rossi result and I did not find any posts anywhere that would lead me to it until now, then there IS INDEED , IMO...a definite dark and subtle motion to cap and control that data.
My attempts to spread that data in the past 24 hours and the interruptions in those attempts, do definitely point to a direct clandestine attempt to control and stop the proliferation of that data.
it's a "kill or poison the parent before the child is born' kind of logic to preventing the information from being proliferated.
I cannot explain my total position and data as that is too revealing of who I am and what I'm doing, and that (reveal) is not going to happen.
I'll give you one data point out of dozens:
For example, a ridiculously common occurrence, is for a music video to exist for... lets say, 3 years. even 5 years. with maybe 2,000 or 5,000 views. No big deal.
I post a link in the here and now thread.
Within a month or two, the link is deleted for copyright violation.
This has probably happened a good 20-30-50 times. over and over. It lasts years and years.
A second point:
Another known example that Bill and I noticed and remarked upon. When the whole Charles thing was going down. If I came onto the forum, and posted anything at all, even just one simple post (even supportive ones), it went entirely silent or broken (discussion and direction falls apart)....on his end. Over and over and over. Just with me. Me alone.
third point:
Every person who has bothered to venture a comment has said I'm the most intelligent person they have ever met. I've met (spoken with) probably.... a quarter million people in my life (worked with the public, off and on, since age 10). I've never met anyone who is my intellectual equal. Even in a given room full of university department heads, or, a building with 75-100 start up company offices... and is called a 'three sigma building'. (minimum average IQ of 145) Every single one of those companies and their secretive developments,..I can improve on them all, no matter the scientific basis of their avenue of inquiry. Even if i've never heard of it before. Usually in minutes. That's a near unbelievable thing to say and a very hard story to swallow. Except for those who've seen it in action.
Scrutiny tends to occur for such people, as you might imagine. I get followed around all the time. people try to inject themselves into my life. They set up 'accidental' meetings at places I frequent.
They'd need a spy type with an IQ of 160 to 170+ before they'd even stand a chance of me not seeing it.
I spend a lot of my time making mirrored sarcastic Monty Pythonish jokes and related childish motions out of life, as that is what the whole damned thing feels like to me. all the time, in all things. A giant ****ing chimp caricature in motion. But they're all asleep, they are all in a hypnotic state, I sometimes think, when I see all people. Maybe one in a thousand, shows hints of being awake. Maybe. Less actually.
Shoulda been a monk, but......that would be selfish and without risk. The easy way out.
Apologies for the coming loss of the link for this great tune:
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